1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We are thrilled 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: to sit down with tight end Isaiah Likely. And I 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: gotta start with this because it's it's really perplexed me 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: all of training camp. Okay, what's up with the black 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: and gold cleats? I mean, of all, did they not 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: offer them in a different color scheme? 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: What's going on here? 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: No? I mean I was just so I usually wear 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: my my Panda Nikes. I like those a lot. I 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 3: have those for the season, Okay, but I also wanted 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: to try out the new Dion cleats that came out. 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: I mean they're good. I got a new black and 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: white pear. I'm not wearing them. 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Obviously, right, Okay, okay, but I didn't. 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: I when I first got him, I was like, maybe 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: nobody's gonna start saying thing. And then El came out 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: his first time, He's like, man, they got on some 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: stilly because I was like, man, Ell, you're gonna catch 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: too many people's attention saying stop saying it. But like 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: I guess, like every time I'm ready to go in 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: and spray paint them, I get a little too tired 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: at the practice, and I'm like, man, maybe tomorrow. 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know, you're having an awesome training camp, so 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: it's working for you, so I think it all can 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: be forgiven. 26 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: But once we get to the games, no seals, Okay, 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: that's gonna be taking care. 28 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 5: Get it out of the way. 29 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you've. 30 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Just been a monster all of training camp. I mean 31 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: it feels like every day we're putting out another Isaiah 32 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: likely highlighted it's a one handed catch. 33 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: Or whatever it is. 34 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: Just what do you feel like has been I guess 35 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: it's it's not a surprise considering the way you finished 36 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: last season, but what has it been this year that 37 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: you feel like, how have you elevated your game even more? 38 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: I say, really just being comfortable right now, just in 39 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: the moment of the offense. I mean really just going 40 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: out there having fun every day and really just you know, 41 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: fine tuning in little things, whether it's in the past 42 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: game connections with l always talking to Mark, or even 43 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: in the run game like seeing everything from Mark's point 44 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: of view, Coach Gotsi's point of view, and really just 45 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: in tune in with the offense, and then really just 46 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: going out there and just showing who I am. I mean, 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: attacking every day at practice really is just my main 48 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: model going every day in Turning Camp. 49 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 4: I feel like I've seen your your personality come out more, 50 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: especially this year in camp. Like I think a lot 51 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: of times when when someone gets drafted and your rookie, 52 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: everyone's quiet as a rookie for the most part. And 53 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: then like over the course of your second season, you know, 54 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: obviously you started to establish yourself really and this year, 55 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: I just feel like your more yourself, your your trash 56 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: talk at practice, like your celebration. 57 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 5: You celebrate a lot, Like have you. 58 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: Kind of come into your own from a personality standpoint 59 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 4: on this team? 60 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I always talk trash from when I 61 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: was a little kid, so always, you know, especially when 62 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: the competitive juices are flown, whether I'm going against you know, Row, Kyle, 63 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: b Steve, any of them. I mean everybody sees me 64 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: and Kyle go up every day. 65 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: That's the best one. 66 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so me and Kyle always got to go at it. 67 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: But another one now was Roal because he's always going 68 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: to screen your name, whether you know you juggle the 69 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: pass or you know, might you might have dropped it 70 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: play before. He's always going to yeah your name and 71 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: let you know about it. So whenever I have my 72 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: moments agains where I always want to let him know 73 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: about it. 74 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it is it just seems like you, I 75 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: don't know if is it confident? Like do you feel 76 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 4: more confident and that is allowing you to, like I guess, 77 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: become more brash at at the field? 78 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I say for sure. I mean just really just 79 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: going into every day now. It's not only now, it's 80 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: not really like studying the offense now, it's really just 81 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: fine tuning in the little things that you already know 82 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: in the offense and really just adding your own flavor, 83 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: I guess, and really just making sure you're on the 84 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: same page with L and then once everything you know 85 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: you get in the groove. Is it's really just show 86 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: your personality, show what you do with the ball in 87 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: your hands, or how you go up and get it. 88 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: I think I can count on one hand how many 89 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: one on one lost. What is it that you feel 90 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: like you do so well to get open? It feels 91 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: to me like you just have a really good body 92 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: sense of where the defender is and like know which. 93 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Way to turn. What is it, in your opinion, how 94 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: do you get open so well? 95 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 3: I really just say using leverages. I mean, whether it's 96 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: you know, going up against a you know, all pro 97 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: safety like Kyle. I know, every time wind loser draw. 98 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: I told this everybody, I'm always gonna learn something, and 99 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: I hope you know when I go up against Kyle, 100 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: he does the same thing. So whenever I go up 101 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: against you know, Kyle, I try to not only try 102 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: different things, but also like understand what I'm good at, 103 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: and whether that's speed off the ball, whether it's attacking 104 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: the football, whether it's late hands, it's always just something. 105 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: I never try to show Kyle the same thing twice 106 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: because at that end of the day, he is who 107 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: he is because of how amazing he is with the 108 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: ball in his hand or tracking your hands. So really 109 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: just you know, picking a spot where I go and 110 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: attacking it full speed and then just understanding when the 111 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: ball is in the air, can nobody come down with 112 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: it but me? 113 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: Right, you two have had some awesome battles and Kyle 114 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Hamilton that started as rookie year, and it's just kind 115 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: of continued to take us inside that battle. 116 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: Really just I mean rookie Year went from you know, 117 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: just doing one on ones every every day and then 118 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: it got to the point where everybody would just look 119 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: forward to it and me and him would just look 120 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: at me, like, man, we probably got about six reps today. 121 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: And going from there to is when I go up, 122 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: when we me and Kyle look at you, were like, 123 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: what we got to today, break even? Or somebody's gonna win. 124 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: So like knowing that going before practice, going out there 125 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: and then just knowing that if I won the first one, 126 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I got to win the second one 127 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: so I could be able to talk to him, or 128 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: if I lost the first one, I got to break even. 129 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: I can't hear his voice the rest of the day. 130 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: And then obviously like you know that that. I feel 131 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: like those competitive juices get you flowing and get you 132 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: going for the rest of practice. 133 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we've seen that and it's it's been 134 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: kind of fun to watch. One of the big talking 135 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: points I think that everybody has has noticed and is 136 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: a focal point going into this year is the idea 137 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: of you and Mark Andrews playing a lot together. Like 138 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: we have talked about it, We've answered questions about it 139 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: not stopping. I think everybody's excited about begging. 140 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, please get more, Mark and say at the same time. 141 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: Because like you came on so strong lest you're when 142 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: he was hurt. Of course he came back for the 143 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: SC Championship game, you know, worked his way back. But 144 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: we haven't gotten to see like the full potential of 145 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 4: the two of you together. How excited are you about 146 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 4: that possibility of the two of you guys really taking 147 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: this offense to another level? 148 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: And I'm excited, man. I mean I tell Mark every day, 149 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: whether we're in the film room or whether we're on 150 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: the field, We're always trying to, you know, break off 151 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: bits and pieces of what each and every one of 152 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: us sees out there. I mean I'll ask him even 153 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: if we wasn't involved in the play, I'll ask him 154 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: and Mark, what you would have did this route if 155 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: you was Nelly or Bait or Zay and he'll tell me. 156 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: Or even if we're out there, sometimes we try to 157 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: change it up. Sometimes we obviously like when we're out there, 158 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: we try to play off of each other, you know, like, Okay, 159 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: you got this today, Let's see how you run it today? 160 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: Or Mark, you got this last drive, Zay you get this, 161 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: see how different changes up to you. And then we'll 162 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: try to play bits and pieces off of that, and 163 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: then when we get in the film room, we'll go, 164 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: We'll go, man, say, I think you should have ran 165 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: it this way or mark how you feel like if 166 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 3: you would have took another revolution step on your route, 167 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: and then really just going from there and then try 168 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: to always attack the same mantra that we have in 169 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: the past game, in the run game, to be able 170 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: to marry up and not be able to say, oh, 171 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: when they're on the field, they're going to just pass 172 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: the ball. Be able to just marry up because obviously 173 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: we got there. Henry back there, so great, he's going 174 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: to He's his own beast. So I understand that, you know, 175 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: while we're out there, to stay out there, you got 176 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: to be able to run and pass the ball out 177 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: of the same formation. 178 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 5: Do you think do you think? 179 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: I mean, this comparison is a lofty comparison, but it's 180 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: been been thrown out and talking about the potential of 181 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: you two guys getting on the field together. It's a 182 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: Gronk and Aaron Hernanders comparison. Obviously from an on field standpoint. 183 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: As a guy grew up in Massachusetts, I'm sure you 184 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: know that comparison quite well. Again, you know, Gronk is 185 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: one of the best side as ever, so we're talking 186 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: about a lofty comparison there, But do you think the 187 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: potential exists for like that type of dynamic in the 188 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: way that you can stress defenses from a mispatch standpoint? 189 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: For sure? I mean, and that comes to the point 190 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: of not having really in the identity of being able 191 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: to figure out what player does what and being able 192 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: to go out there and be positionless, whether it's one 193 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: of us goes out split wide playing X receiver that snap, 194 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: or in line, or even in the slot, even going 195 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: in the backfield. I mean there's plays sometimes where you'll 196 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: see me in the backfield, you'll see Mark split out 197 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: why and it's like, okay, we treat them as two 198 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: tight ends, a receiver a back, and that's where you 199 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: want a defense and never know what can happen out 200 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: in any formation. And I feel like that's what made 201 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: Aaron is in Robert Gronkowsi's little tandem unique and really 202 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: excel when it came down to it. And I feel 203 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: like that's what me and Mark can really excel and 204 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: be able to go out there and show people like 205 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: there's levels to what we're trying to put on tape. 206 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: I know you've done a lot of studying of this 207 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: playbook at every position. If you were to tell somebody 208 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: this is the position I play in the NFL, what 209 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: do you even say at this point. 210 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: I just say chess peace. I mean yeah, I just 211 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: tell them like, I'm somebody that you can line me 212 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: up anywhere and I'm going to get the job done. 213 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll try to, you know, perfect my craft 214 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: into being able to go anywhere on the field, run 215 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: any route, be able to block, try to be able 216 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: to block any type of player, whether it's in line, 217 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: in the slot, out wide, and really just hone in 218 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: and get the job done. I mean, now it gets 219 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: to the point where everybody used to refer to me, 220 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: quote unquote when I came out of college, ass oh, 221 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: he's just a passing tight end, right, I mean, and 222 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: that comes to the point where why I was able 223 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: to run good routes, I was able to get open. 224 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: I used to only be able to get the ball. 225 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: Now is getting to the point where it's where people 226 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: is like, Okay, when you see Isaiah come in the game, 227 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: you have to respect him. And it's not only a 228 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 3: pass catching but being able to be able in the 229 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: run game. 230 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 5: Interesting. You basically the offensive version of Kyle Hamilton. 231 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like that when people call Kyle 232 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: this was armony, I like, okay, yeah, I like that 233 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: because on the offensive side, that's most likely what they 234 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: look at me at. 235 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: Chess pe so CP instead of te we. 236 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 5: Gotta talk, we gotta talk to the pr change change 237 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 5: on the roster. 238 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm interested in your connection with Lamar because it also 239 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: seems like that has just grown and grown and grown, 240 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: and like it's so often after a play that I 241 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: just see you two gravitate towards each other. You're like 242 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: magnets tracked into each other, you know, and talking through 243 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the play. Take us through how that relationship has has grown. 244 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: I'd say, you know, it's been grown since my rookiear. 245 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: I mean, l like I tell everybody, he was one 246 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: of the first vets that came up to talk to 247 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: me when I got drafted. And it wasn't from a 248 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: standpoint of, you know, really just coaching me or critiquing 249 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: me on something I did. It was like that big brother, 250 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: big brother aspect. It was I was in the locker room, 251 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 3: he just hit me upside the head. I was like, 252 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 3: what's up, Rook, And I felt like that was just, 253 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: you know, a connection we made over time and now 254 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: you know, whether good, good or bad play, L's always 255 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: going to critique me. And that's one thing, you know, 256 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: I embraced that he does every time, because you know, 257 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: you're always gonna be the highest of highs when you 258 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: have a one handicatch, when you get a touchdown. But 259 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: L's always going to critique you on saying, either lock 260 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: in or you got more? You got more to give. 261 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: And that's one thing I always ask, whether it's a good, 262 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 3: good or bad play, like did you hold the ball 263 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: a little longer? Did I take it? Was I too 264 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: fast in my route even if the ball got there, 265 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: or stuff that I can help him out, whether it's 266 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: you know, a coverage that I'm not supposed to get 267 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: the ball in. Can I help you any way that 268 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: I can if pressure happens and then stuff like that, 269 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: and then not only on the field, is off the field. 270 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: I mean the connection we build off the field, whether 271 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: it's playing a game trashtock in the locker room, you know, 272 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: competing against each other. I felt like that, you know, 273 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: brought our connection on the field to new hikes. 274 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: I noticed actually in practice yesterday you and him talking 275 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: a lot, and it seemed almost like, you know, you 276 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: were you were working behind the play at a certain 277 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 4: point because you were doing some extra reps and like, 278 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: you guys are going at it a little bit. I 279 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: think part of it was playful, but it likes it 280 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: seemed like you were kind of challenging each other. Yeah, 281 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 4: like what would take me into that conversation and what 282 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: you guys were focusing on. 283 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: Well, so you know, when new plays go in in 284 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: different periods, not everybody can get reps. So I try 285 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: to pride myself in to knowing that, Okay, I might 286 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: not got the reps here on the field by one, 287 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: make sure I get the reps off the field. And 288 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: then sometimes like I, you know, just chiming, try and 289 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: make a little harder him. Talk to him while the 290 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: play is going on, to try to get in his mind, 291 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: acting like the crowd, to make sure, like you know, 292 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: he's staying locked in and like he's always telling me 293 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: if the ball goes there, manay, I know when you're 294 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: in here that you bet catch it, just like this man. 295 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: Stuff like that, making sure like he's just you know, 296 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: playing back off me and that's just you know stuff. 297 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: That I mean, it was, it was a fun dynamic 298 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: between the two of you, and like it was, it 299 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: caught my eye because I mean, to be honest, you 300 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: don't often see like the ones getting extra reps off 301 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: to the side as practices going on, but like you 302 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: guys were focused on getting that extra time together to 303 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 4: build that chemistry. 304 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: How has Mark Andrews made you a better player? Man? 305 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: I tell everybody I treat Mark like my big brother. 306 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I try to be a sponge every time 307 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: we're either on the field or whether I'm watching him. 308 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I try to absorb all the knowledge that 309 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: he has within the game, because at the end of 310 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: the day, he's an opera. You're gonna respect Mark Andrews 311 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: when he's on the field regardless, So whether he does, 312 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: you know, in the past game or in the run game, 313 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: I try to understand everything why he did what he 314 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: did and then try to, you know, involve it around 315 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: my game and I obviously my my type of flavor 316 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: to whatever happens. And then obviously, you know, talking to him, 317 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, you you understand the type of player he 318 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: is and the type of practices he has because of 319 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: his work ethic. And I say, that's the one thing 320 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 3: I could say Mark brings it to practice every day. 321 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: Whether he has a good play bad play, he going 322 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: to attack the next rep one hundred percent. 323 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: That's something He's so intense that, like he like scares me. 324 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, I don't even want to approach Mark 325 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: because he's on a different level. 326 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: Is he like that with you? Like do you ever 327 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: feel that around Mark? 328 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: I say, like, obviously I get the energy that when 329 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: he's when he's locked in or when he's had, like 330 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: he's in go mode, I'll be like, Okay, Mark's and gomo. 331 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: But he always, like I always, I try to tell 332 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: everybody like I'm always going to be the one to 333 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: talk to him, like whether he's having, you know, a 334 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 3: good day or a bad day, I'm always going to 335 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: be the one to either chime in or pick him up. 336 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: And I feel like that's just you know, the dynamic 337 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: or you know, the type of connection that I want 338 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: to have with him, because at the end of the day, 339 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: you know, he's I see him as my vet, Like 340 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: I see Mark as you know, somebody that you know, 341 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: I came in the league, just watching, you know, trying 342 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: to understand pick up the game after him, and to 343 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: now it's like, wow, I get to play alongside you know, 344 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 3: grow from you, and it's really just you know, adding 345 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: everything that you do to my game. And now it's 346 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 3: watching him and then watching the energy he brings the practice, like, Okay, 347 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: if Mark's on go Mo, let's be on go Mo 348 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: for you this year. 349 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: I really feel like, you know, it's challenging because Mark 350 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: is in the same room as you, right, and like 351 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: the number of plays that you can both be on 352 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: the field, we hope it's a lot, but that's limited, right, 353 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: Is there still the sense for you and the goal 354 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: of like, hey, I'm going to become a household name 355 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: this year, Like I'm going to get enough of an 356 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: opportunity that I can do that for sure. 357 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: I mean, to each his own, I mean, I try 358 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: to make the most out of every play I'm out there. 359 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: I mean, whether it's I get a two yard catch, 360 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: I try to score, whether it's in the run game, 361 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: I try to bury somebody. So it's really just you know, 362 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: when when it's allsa and done, when the play, when 363 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: the game's over, I want them a team to also say, man, 364 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: eighty nine to eight seven, four fifteen, But man, that 365 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: boy eighty was out there hooping too. That's always the 366 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: you know, the mindset I'm gonna have going into every 367 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: game this year. 368 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you want the narrative around your season 369 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: to be when we're looking back on it at the 370 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: end of the year. 371 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: The narrative, I ain't thought about them, I say, I'll 372 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: say the narrative narrative is, Man, that group of people 373 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: was explosive. I mean, it didn't matter where the ball 374 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: went somebody. They had the mantra or the aggression or 375 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: the type of willpower to go to distance. And I say, 376 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: that's the one thing I pride myself in my game 377 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: to be able to, like I just said, like go 378 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: to distance on any type of play. I mean, whether 379 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: it's catching a five yard pass, I'm trying to stiff farm, 380 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: I'm trying to cut, diping, dodge, to try to go 381 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: to the distance to the end zone. And I say, 382 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: when you look at our offense, when you pair us 383 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: anywhere in the league, I feel like we got the 384 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: most explosive offense, especially with the new addition to Derek 385 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: Henry to go to distance and score a bunch of 386 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: points any game. 387 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: The last one for me is I think that using 388 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: one season to the NeXT's motivation. I don't know how 389 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: much that that is the case, but I think that 390 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: there's an element of that. Do you feel like coming 391 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: so close last year has served as any motivation over 392 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: the course of this offseason into training camp? And will 393 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: that drive you in this group this year? 394 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: For sure? I mean, and that's why I could say, 395 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: you know, with this group of people that we have 396 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: with this team, coaches, staff, everybody, et cetera, that everybody 397 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: has that chip on the shoulder where it's man that 398 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: one extra detail might take us that extra way. So, 399 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: whether you know we're in practice in the meeting rooms, 400 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: even you know in the locker room building that chemistry, 401 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: it's always that one extra detail. What can you do 402 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: to help yourself be able to get over to hump 403 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: of last year? And I say, note the chip on 404 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: the shoulder going into practice and you know, being going 405 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: against the defense, being as competitive as we are, we 406 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: always try to pride ourselves into the one play, one 407 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: more play, I mean, And whether you're out there, whether 408 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: you're tired, you know, hot day, cold day, with training camp, now, 409 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 3: and like I tell everybody now, I don't even know 410 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: what day it is. I just know I got practice 411 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna give it my all. And that's I 412 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: feel like everybody's out there doing with that same mantra 413 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: of saying, man, what can you do extra this year 414 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 3: that you didn't have last year? That gets over that. 415 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: Home as I want to go back to last year 416 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: earlier in the year, and we talked about this. I 417 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: think the last time you came on the pod and 418 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: you talked about the drop in overtime against the Colts 419 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: and how that motivated you. And I want to say 420 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: that you went to l and said, like that will 421 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: never happen again for sure. Right? 422 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 2: How much was that play? Just looking back? 423 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, you've done so much since then then grown 424 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: so much and become you know, this baller that I 425 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: think everybody's like, this's gonna have a big year, Right? 426 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: How much did that play? Really? Was that a turning 427 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: point for you in your career? 428 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 3: Man? I mean that was probably like one of those 429 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: like come on, lock in, like that was one of 430 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: those moments, And that was one of those like feelings 431 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: that I was like, Man, I don't never want to 432 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: feel like this again. So like I honed in on everything, 433 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: like whether it was the minor details, just watch always 434 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: looking the ball in So even when you're in the groove, 435 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: like everybody says, like you get a superpower when you're 436 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: catching the ball in the game where it's like you 437 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: got five your five targets for five catches or your 438 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: six six targets for six catches, like you're getting the 439 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: groove where it's like you could catch everything, but it's 440 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: always those you know, those five yard catches, those two 441 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: yard catches that might not matter then to you, that 442 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: might matter in the back part of the game where 443 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: it's like, man, all those catches count, all those catches matter. 444 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: So you know, telling L and going up to L 445 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: you know obviously after you know, losing that game, I 446 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: told them like, man, I'll never have that happen again. 447 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: Like whether it's you throw the ball forty yards down 448 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: the field and I gotta go jump up to get it, 449 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: or whether it's a two yard catch that I gotta 450 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 3: go get, I'm gonna make all them. 451 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: Right, right, And last one for me is how the 452 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: heck were you not more heavily recruited, Like I went back. 453 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: So you grew up in. 454 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: Massachus Cambridge born and raised, and you were balling in 455 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: high school. You were a state champion in high school, 456 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: putting up stats. 457 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened? Like how did everybody miss this? I 458 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: don't know. 459 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: I mean I had a lot of like schools tell me, 460 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: like to post grad and do everything, but I felt 461 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 3: like I was ready for colleges now. And I'll never forget. 462 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: I had Nick Jones, tight end coach that used to 463 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: be at Coastal. He recruited me and he told me like, look, 464 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: you come here, We're gonna treat you like a tight 465 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: end hybrid and we're gonna put the ball in your 466 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: hands and see what you could do. 467 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, man, I. 468 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: Love it sound of that right away trying to get there. 469 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: And then like he ended up obviously going to I 470 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: forget what school he ended up going to. And then 471 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: I had a tight end coach you know that helped 472 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: me a lot. You know down the line, Bill Dirk 473 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 3: and helped me. He was our running backs in an 474 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: O line coach. Now they're all my whole Offenstiff went 475 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: to Liberty now, but he helped me at that time 476 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: to be able to you know, go into college, you know, 477 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: grasp the student athlete and on the field, be able 478 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: to do all that. And then I'll never forget, you know, 479 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: going to Coastal and telling them, you know, I'll give 480 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: y'all whatever y'all need out of me, because y'all take 481 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 3: a chance on kid from Massachusetts and Cambridge to come 482 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: change the program around, and I feel like I left 483 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: my mark there. 484 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad the Ravens took a chance on YouTube. Man, 485 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: we gotta steal, We gotta steal. Looking forward to the season, Man, 486 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: you're gonna do big things. I appreciate it. 487 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thank you. 488 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 4: Welcome back into the Launch podcast. We're coming to you 489 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 4: from the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to give 490 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 4: a shout out to our friends at Draft Kings Sportsbook. 491 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 4: Draft Kings Sportsbook is an official sports betting partner of 492 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens. Draft Kings The Crown is yours. Also, 493 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 4: as we just talk about, you know, Isaiah coming through here, 494 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: I think it was just a really interesting conversation with him. 495 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of excitement around him. I'm 496 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: fired off about what he'll be able to do, and 497 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: I have just you asked him about the Colts play 498 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 4: and the conversation we had last year with him when 499 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 4: he was. 500 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 5: On the podcast. I just I really like his mindset. 501 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 5: I think he's a really smart guy. 502 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: He is at Cambridge. I mean, come on, yeah. 503 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 5: There it is, there is. 504 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: I think he's just a smart guy who I like 505 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: his approach to the game. I liked the way that 506 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 4: he plays with confidence and energy and I've just I mean, 507 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 4: he's been one of the best players on the field 508 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: for the Ravens this summer. 509 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Just he's a baller. He's a baller. I mean, like 510 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: athletically freakish. I mean the way he can go up 511 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: and make plays. Uh you know you you very rarely 512 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: see the ball hit the ground when it's thrown to him. 513 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: The neck just the fuel for the game to get it. 514 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle, we're talking about his battles with Kyle Hailton. 515 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, on multiple occasions during training camp, I've seen 516 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton just throw his hands up, like, what we're 517 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: supposed to do with this I'm supposed to do right 518 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: How am I supposed to cover this dude right now? 519 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: And like when you have that's an all Pro that's 520 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players in the NFL, you know, 521 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: and when he's got his hands full with Isaiah Likely, 522 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: that tells you something. I just think the biggest question 523 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: is how can the Ravens use him to get him 524 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: enough opportunities that I think he should get right and 525 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: and uh, there's a lot of mouths to feed, right, 526 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Derrick Henry, like you said, Mark Andrews, obviously, 527 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers or Shaw Bateman. 528 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: The list goes on. So it's a challenge. 529 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: But GOLLI like, the more that you watch Isaiah Likely practice, 530 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: the more you just say, like, I hope this guy 531 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: is getting the you know, in the top three of 532 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: targets on this team. 533 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 534 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: Well, when he talks about being a chess piece, I 535 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: think that's a really good way of looking at it 536 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: because and he certainly knows this. 537 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 5: Like the key for the Ravens to be able to get. 538 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: Both him and Mark Andrews on the field together is 539 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 4: that you can't be giving things away by doing that. 540 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: You can't say, all right, what Isaiah Like he comes 541 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: on the field, it's to pass play, you know. You 542 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: need to have the ability to create mismatches, to create 543 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: he'll be able to run the ball. With both those guys, 544 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: you got to be able to run the ball. You 545 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: got to be able to keep the defense off balance. 546 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: And the way you can move him all over the 547 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: place a receiver, I mean even in the backfield at 548 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: time of course, in line, as a blocker, or as 549 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 4: a receiver coming off the line. All those different variations 550 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: are really important in order for the Ravens to use 551 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 4: the double tight end option. 552 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: Well, the Ravens used a lot of three wide receiver 553 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: looks last year. I think that there's a very good 554 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: chance that one of those receivers is just replaced by 555 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: a tight end this season. Yea, that Mark Andrews and 556 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely will both play a lot of slot wide receiver. 557 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it'll be interesting if they do that. 558 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 5: You know, do they is it. 559 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: Who's in line? Who's all that stuff? 560 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: Like? 561 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: Do you still need the blocking help in line in 562 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: this place? Right? 563 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 5: That that's the question, right, and so what do you 564 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 5: what do you do do you? 565 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: I think that all that that nuance there, like, that's 566 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: what Todd Monkin and this offensive coaching staff has really, 567 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: i think been working on throughout the off season. 568 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 5: But that's also been a focus in training camp. 569 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: But but overall, I agree with the premise wholeheartedly that like, 570 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 4: you need to get him on the field, you need 571 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: to get him the ball. And I think that Isaiah 572 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 4: Likely is one of the best offensive weapons that the 573 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: Ravens have and finding ways to get him on the 574 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 4: field is going to be really important. 575 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: Well, and you talk about the connection with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, 576 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: you know, We've talked about that endlessly between Mark and 577 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Lamar and just the feel that they have for each 578 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: other on extended plays on you know, the trust that 579 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: Lamar has in him in contesting ketches, jump ball situations. 580 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to just float it up there and trust 581 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: my guy to come down with it. 582 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: You see that now with Isaiah Likely. 583 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and their chemistry is very reminiscent of what he 584 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: and Mark have and I think that that goes a 585 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: long way too. 586 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just peace thing I just think is really interesting. 587 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: I just keep coming back to that. The way that 588 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: he views himself as as as somebody who can be 589 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: moved all over the offense and like and be like 590 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 4: Mark is awesome. And I will say like, as I 591 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 4: think Isaiah Likely is great, I do think that people. 592 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: Some people have forgotten how good Mark Andres is, you know, 593 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 4: just because he's he missed a lot of time last year. 594 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: And I think Mark is eager to prove people like, yeah, 595 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: don't forget about me in this mix too. And I 596 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 4: think that that mindset and that room is is good 597 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: in hell, and that competition is great. But I'm excited 598 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: to see how the Ravens use these guys, you know, 599 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 4: like as we're looking at it here in mid August, 600 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 4: you know, eventually we're gonna do our full predictions podcast. 601 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: But like breakout player Isaiah, likely is he count as 602 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: a breakout. 603 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 5: He's on that he's on the verge there. 604 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: If we if we don't, if he hasn't already broken out, 605 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: then I think that he's an easy pay for both 606 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: of us to say breakout flair. 607 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: But you're always finicky on that. 608 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 5: I know you don't come down. 609 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: But I think, like as you're as you're laying out 610 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: like the target share, I think that he's probably top three, 611 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: you know, and I and on this team. 612 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's not a bad play fantasy football. 613 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: You draft Mark and Isaiah? 614 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 2: What is the flex? 615 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: I love it all right, that's an interesting idea right there. 616 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm I'm excited about him and I think 617 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: that he's going to be a monster this year. So, 618 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: as always, you can email us at the lounge at 619 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Also, before I go, I 620 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: want to make sure that every one goes back if 621 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: you haven't, if you got not in the habit of this. 622 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: Whenever we drop a new episode of Wired, go back 623 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 4: and watch that. You know, we did it one a 624 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, just a really cool look at 625 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 4: this team, and we've got another one right on the 626 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: horizon that we're gonna be working on. So these episodes 627 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 4: are Wired are things that you do not want to miss, 628 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 4: So go check out the one from last week if 629 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: you haven't done so already. So as always, thank you 630 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 4: so much for watching and for listening, and we will 631 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: talk with you again soon.