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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive by him Dale Lally. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt. We're just discussing um some of

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Speaker 1: the stranger things that happened in TV and movie shows

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Speaker 1: such as Stranger Things. If you know that the town, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess there's a new trailer coming out for the

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Speaker 1: next trailer. If you know this town has issues like this, move.

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Speaker 1: There's plenty of places to live and you probably could

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Speaker 1: even just drive twenty miles down the road. Get that

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Speaker 1: have to go to Maine or Oregon or everything the

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Speaker 1: world right last like a real friendly town. It's nobody

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Speaker 1: thinks this is strange that you know, dozens of people

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Speaker 1: are dying every year and vanishing any little town and

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Speaker 1: not to ruin it for everyone. But didn't it like

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Speaker 1: rain fire there and stuff? I mean like stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be the first America's least livabol city. Well

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Speaker 1: I'm in the I'm the upside out crap. I lost

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Speaker 1: my son for a year. I'm gonna stay here, Just move,

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Speaker 1: just move. This goes to the reason I bring us up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason. I just didn't think you had as Okay,

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Speaker 1: So the Steelers at one point we're two and six

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Speaker 1: times have changed, times have changed, gone, they have moved

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Speaker 1: on in one of the things that they did, just

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Speaker 1: started running the football. Yeah, I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 1: the crux of it. Yeah, it's not that hard to

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Speaker 1: figure out not that hard to figure out a lot

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Speaker 1: less mistakes as well, you know, penalties, and you can

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Speaker 1: make I think I don't know if there's a study

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Speaker 1: out there that shows us, but I know that there's

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Speaker 1: an old acteam in football that when you throw the football,

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Speaker 1: three things can happen and two of them are bad. Right,

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Speaker 1: And times have changed a little. I mean that was

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Speaker 1: like George Hallis's version, but this game can actually have

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways over the years, and running the

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Speaker 1: football has always traveled and always worked. But at this

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Speaker 1: point in football, you could make that five things can happen, okay,

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Speaker 1: and three of them are bad for the five in

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Speaker 1: completion yes, completion, yes, intersubception, offensive past interference actually six

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Speaker 1: defensive packers past interference in a sack. Okay, Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: six things can happen in four of them are bad,

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Speaker 1: but two of them are really good. Two of them

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Speaker 1: are really good. But it's a risk reward thing. But

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Speaker 1: when you run the football, right, I mean, most of

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Speaker 1: the time, as long as you're gaining yards, you're it's positive,

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Speaker 1: and it has a it has a mental effect on

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Speaker 1: the team. I think, Oh, I think that parts very true.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a physicality. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: still believe and I hope I do until the day

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Speaker 1: I die, that this game is one of the trenches

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Speaker 1: more often than not. And keeping those guys happy and

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Speaker 1: thriving and doing what they do best and want to do,

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Speaker 1: I think has a massive ratification. Yeah, I have yet

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Speaker 1: to meet the offensive lineman who says, oh no, I

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Speaker 1: want to pass the ball every down. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to run the football. It's a difference between delivering the

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Speaker 1: blow and receiving the bloom. And it's pretty simple. The

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman want to deliver the blow because, as you've

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Speaker 1: stated many times, the defensive lineman in today's football game

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Speaker 1: and today's football are so much more athletic more then

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. You negate that by allowing the offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman to get to attack right, A is opposed to

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Speaker 1: reacting to a great athlete. I get to come off

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Speaker 1: the ball, beat him up, I get to run him in,

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Speaker 1: and I can legally grab him and throw him to

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Speaker 1: the ground. And maybe he has great short area quickness

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Speaker 1: or change of direction or length, but I still put

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Speaker 1: him on his back. If we one, he's gonna beat

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Speaker 1: me in the race. He's gonna jump higher than me

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Speaker 1: when we're when we're doing that, we have the agility drills,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna beat me in that. But if

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Speaker 1: I get my hands on him right, he might beat

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Speaker 1: me in a slam dun contest. But in the run

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Speaker 1: blocking game, I like my chances three twenty coming off

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Speaker 1: the ball time and time again for sixty minutes. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that's a big part. That's why again

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Speaker 1: I think you're seeing so many teams going back to

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Speaker 1: running the football because not everyone has my homes, you know,

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Speaker 1: for one thing. You know, but you know, defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: coming into the league of gotten so much later. Think

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Speaker 1: they're just not you know, you see a lot of

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Speaker 1: these offensively defensive Okay, Yeah, I mean when I say

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Speaker 1: big men, the class Campbell's the Cam Haywards of the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're really good athletic type. Yeah right that that that

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Speaker 1: are athletic enough to to to move and do those things.

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Speaker 1: There aren't as many of those as there are the T. J. Watts.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, sure, the two fifty pound guys that, wow,

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Speaker 1: he really moves well, well, I can't get my hands

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not disagreeing with you, but the

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Speaker 1: d lineman in this league are all shapes and sizes

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Speaker 1: of they are. I mean there, but it's much easier

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Speaker 1: to deal with those guys if you're just running at

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Speaker 1: you negate their athleticism, I mean, double team and donald

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Speaker 1: off of a run play the heck a lot better

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Speaker 1: than me as a center snapping the ball retreating with

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Speaker 1: my hands in the air open to get something between

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Speaker 1: him and my fingernail on it, right right right, good luck. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: he splits the splits, the difference gets skinny and kills

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Speaker 1: my quarterback. Yeah exactly. I say that because the one

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Speaker 1: thing is the Ravens defense is doing well this year,

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Speaker 1: very well. Is stopping the run big time, more and

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Speaker 1: more every week too. I mean they're I say my

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Speaker 1: WOA and as a result, you know they are seeing

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Speaker 1: the second or first. I think it's the second highest

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Speaker 1: percentage of pass because runs on working, to be very

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Speaker 1: honest with you, and they rushed the pass or well,

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Speaker 1: their their secondary is good. It's a good defense. They're secks.

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Speaker 1: I think I added this update. They've getten sex from

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Speaker 1: different Yeah. Yeah, Houston's having the best year at least

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Speaker 1: sack wise, um and Campbell's a good player and he

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Speaker 1: plays on third downs and you know, but it's a

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Speaker 1: good defense. But they've been killer against a run, which

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Speaker 1: I'm sure where you're going with this, you know, like

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Speaker 1: if they can run on these guys, wow, that's really

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Speaker 1: an accomplishment astely and will they try a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams don't Well, I think they'll try. I'm sure they'll try,

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Speaker 1: because that's the Steeler's identity. Now, that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna come out and run the ball thirty five

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Speaker 1: times a game. It might be picking on six or

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Speaker 1: seven of those runs, that makes sense, but around here

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Speaker 1: and there around some of it's non traditional running. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they're going to try to run the football. And

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Speaker 1: the beauty of this team too is okay, maybe they

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Speaker 1: are great against the run, which they the Ravens are,

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Speaker 1: but their offense isn't gonna run away and hide. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it would shock me need to run the ball. It

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Speaker 1: would shock me if it's Steelers get the ball in

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Speaker 1: the second half and they're in shotgun five wide the

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Speaker 1: I just see that happening unless dramatically bad things on

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Speaker 1: special teams and pick sixes and things like that happened

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Speaker 1: in the first half. But what I don't see is

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Speaker 1: the Steelers coming out, for example, like the Falcons did

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Speaker 1: last week, and saying, well, we're gonna throw the ball

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Speaker 1: against the Steelers because we're only gonna run the ball

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Speaker 1: six times in the first half, We're gonna throw it

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Speaker 1: eighteen times. And well that didn't work. Like I think,

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's doing a heck of a job down there

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Speaker 1: with very little talent. But he had to kick himself

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Speaker 1: for that going into the half. He had to be like,

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Speaker 1: what am I doing? You know? And the second half

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Speaker 1: is much better. Do what you do well, Do what

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Speaker 1: you do well, and if the other team stops it,

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Speaker 1: then you adjust. That's the one thing constantly bothers me, um,

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Speaker 1: and it's not just Steeler fans, his fans around football

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Speaker 1: period um talking about halftime adjustments. If I'm out there,

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Speaker 1: I'm not making any halftime adjustments, not thing. May I

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Speaker 1: mean everybody does blowing up what we just did that

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Speaker 1: So if I'm at Land, I come in, I run

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Speaker 1: the football because that's what I do. Well. If I'm

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Speaker 1: up on you twenty four and nothing, I'm not changing that.

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Speaker 1: It's up to you do adjust and then we'll just

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Speaker 1: off of what you do, right. I mean, for people

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Speaker 1: have never been in the halftime of the locker room.

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Speaker 1: All the defensive coaches get together maybe eight minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm trying to think. I mean half you

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Speaker 1: everybody get you get your group, and you gotta know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you get a bite or something whatever, and and

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Speaker 1: you say this is really working, This really isn't This

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Speaker 1: is what they're throwing at us. I mean sometimes halftime

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Speaker 1: adjustments are too late, you know, I mean, like that

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Speaker 1: I mean you got to adjust every series. I mean

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Speaker 1: the communications. Why do you guys have the headsets on?

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Speaker 1: I mean so, I don't know. Halftime adjustments are a

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Speaker 1: little overrated to me because there's just not that much time.

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Speaker 1: Like again, you're not going to adjust what's working, Like

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Speaker 1: I tell the story, may do more of it. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was almost illegal, like when we played Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: When I was at pitt the poor dudes that were

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Speaker 1: in this store, walk in this crappy little locker room finally,

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Speaker 1: tell you. There's some NFL stadiums like I'm sure, well,

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Speaker 1: this is a new designed They made upgrades to the

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Speaker 1: get in a cart. They don't have to go outside

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Speaker 1: the stadiums. We actually go through the like, but they

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Speaker 1: which is probably at least five minutes. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: I was going down after the game in the preseason

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Speaker 1: this year and one of the coaches who was upstairs

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Speaker 1: missed the cart gotta go. Yeah, they took all without him.

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh man, they left me. And he's like,

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Speaker 1: he get there? Get a hotdog and relax and tell

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Speaker 1: me how the meeting went. So that that that that

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Speaker 1: is interesting, you know. I mean there are obviously, like

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Speaker 1: when I break down a game, I always make sure

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Speaker 1: I pay attention to the first half stats and he

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Speaker 1: is the second half a lot different or not? What

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Speaker 1: were the trends at that time and some of its fatigue,

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Speaker 1: some of it's guys got hurt. What do you know whatever?

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Speaker 1: But um breaking it down, just a boy, this team

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Speaker 1: is terrible at halftime adjustments. I don't think you know

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Speaker 1: probably don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, it gets to a situation where okay,

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Speaker 1: we knew this these eight plays or these eight things

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Speaker 1: that we did against them. We're working um. But as

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett said last week, the biggest difference to him

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