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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to a special episode of the

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Speaker 2: metsa Podcast. If you're listening to us, I suggest you

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Speaker 2: are joined by a special guest today, former New York

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Speaker 2: Met World Series All NLCS hero Daniel Murphy joins us. Daniel,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, man, appreciate it. How you been.

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Speaker 1: What's going on doing well? Mark? Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: James you as well. Well. It's Sandlot season and we

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Speaker 1: get to start a little earlier down here in Florida

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Speaker 1: then in the Northeast, which is why all the lads

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Speaker 1: are down in spring training. So we've been bawling. My

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Speaker 1: two boys they bowl played baseball ten Noah and then

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Speaker 1: seven Drew. And then my daughter's been doing some ice

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Speaker 1: skating which keeps us a bit cool. And then we

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Speaker 1: got a little one, Jake, who's two years old, and

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Speaker 1: he just bosses us around without using much words, like

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Speaker 1: a few words as possible. So we're doing good. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for asking. I'm in my wife's her office right

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Speaker 1: now that she has for her charity prom series, so

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Speaker 1: she let me, she let me steal it to hang

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Speaker 1: out with you guys.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of fun. What was your

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Speaker 3: wife's charity do?

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Speaker 1: So its main focus is girls who are in the

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Speaker 1: foster care system middle school to high school age, and

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Speaker 1: she throws events for him. So the first one was

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Speaker 1: in Denver where she brought all the girls who were

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Speaker 1: to come and help as well, got prom dresses for them, all,

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Speaker 1: got their hair and makeup, done it a suite for

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Speaker 1: a ball game. And now she's probably done that, I

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Speaker 1: think in maybe fifty like twenty stadiums like an event

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Speaker 1: like that where she's been there, and she's been able

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Speaker 1: to host an event in every major league stadium like

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Speaker 1: it's been she's been really well received. And you know

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Speaker 1: baseball and you know the wives of our guys who

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Speaker 1: have you know, we leave for the ballpark one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: You know, you kind of can end up having a

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Speaker 1: So they've really rallied around my wife, Tory and her

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Speaker 1: heart for children in the foster care system. So thank

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Speaker 1: you for asking.

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Speaker 2: That's that's awesome to hear. That's that's amazing stuff. To

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Speaker 2: switch the conversation a little bit, just to go back

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Speaker 2: to baseball now, talk about you. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: the Mets. We're gonna talk about twenty twenty five Mets.

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Speaker 2: But I think for me and James's lifelong Mets fans,

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Speaker 2: there's a few things that we got to know about

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Speaker 2: and that we want to ask you specifically about that

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen season. We were texting before we got on

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Speaker 2: the show, and we were talking about a lot of

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Speaker 2: the moves that the Mets made this offseason. But during

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Speaker 2: the twenty fifteen season, the Mets made a particularly big

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Speaker 2: move bringing in you an assessments at the trade deadline

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Speaker 2: as a player on that team, especially because that season

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Speaker 2: was super up and down to begin with, What was

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Speaker 2: it like bringing in a guy like Yo.

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Speaker 1: Well, the roller coaster ride of how we got there,

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Speaker 1: of kind of thinking it was Carlos Gomez and then

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Speaker 1: you know flow, you know, just revealing that we're human beings.

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Speaker 1: He just happened to do it in front of, you know,

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Speaker 1: the entire city and world to a certain respect. But

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Speaker 1: when Yo came in, like he just is also in

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Speaker 1: conjunction with getting Kelly Johnson in your rebay, it's like

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Speaker 1: all these guys came in, but when you came in,

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Speaker 1: you could feel like Sandy, you know, just like telling

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna sacrifice some of ourselves in

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Speaker 1: the future, which was I think, Michael foellmore, if I'm

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Speaker 1: to try to win in the present, and it was

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Speaker 1: it was really a huge lift. And then to add in,

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Speaker 1: And it was a wonderful run that we were able

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Speaker 3: was kind of like if there was one a galvanizing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think looking back on it, we made a

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Speaker 1: But we were. But no, we were winning, which was

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Speaker 1: because what TC was telling us that this is a meritocracy.

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Speaker 1: So whoever plays best gets to play. And that was unique,

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Speaker 2: It playing around David Wright? Us Mets fans have such

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Speaker 1: Well? I got to know him kind of in the

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Speaker 1: So he's already the most recognizable player we have because

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Speaker 1: You don't have to choose to do that. I've chosen

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Speaker 1: They went and talked to David. And so now he's

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Speaker 3: But do you stay in touch with any guys from

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Speaker 1: I reach out to de Grom a little bit, so

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Speaker 1: and then so Jake, and then you know, David, and

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been able to reach out to Matt.

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Speaker 1: My wife actually ran into him Game four of the NLDS, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I ran into Ruben Tahta and Long Island when I

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Speaker 1: But we got to see each other again and it

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Speaker 1: Ruben we were an instructional league together when he was sixteen,

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Speaker 1: Like he's running around at short, stopped making every play.

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Speaker 1: So like I know in Ruby Tuesday Forever, it was

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Speaker 2: Chase Hutley going into Ruben Tata as a player, because

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Speaker 2: I mean as a fan, we all went Berzurik as

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Speaker 2: a player. What are the initial emotions going on when

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Speaker 1: Well, there's there's immediate anger and then there was also

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Speaker 1: some how do I want to describe it on my part,

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Speaker 1: Like I'd say responsibility. I didn't get Ruben a very

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Speaker 1: protected himself. But my boy wanted to play. I've seen

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Speaker 1: what is what we were looking for, and and then

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Speaker 1: the off season unfolds and it ends up you know,

436
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Speaker 1: the market, the second base market at that time was

437
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: kind of Ben's Obris was was the one who made

438
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Speaker 1: that one go, you know what I mean? And who

439
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 1: was where was he going to end up? I believe

440
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 1: the Mets were interested, the Cubs were interested, and then

441
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Speaker 1: you also had the trade market as well, and as

442
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 1: Drubil was available and Neil Walker, so you know, the

443
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: Mets end up going is drouble and Neil kind of

444
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: back to back days almost as a free agent. I

445
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: was like, and then I looked at my wife and thought,

446
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: it looks it looks really unlikely, like we're going to

447
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 1: be able to find a way back to New York,

448
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: which isn't anything personal. And he could have taken the

449
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: qualifying offer as well too, And so to be honest,

450
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 1: the market, our market was kind of cold, like we

451
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 1: didn't you know, there wasn't a ton in interest. I

452
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say interest the qualifying offer that was attached to

453
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Speaker 1: me for the draft pick. Teams were not They don't

454
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 1: like giving up draft picks. And I don't blame them,

455
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: because that bonus pool money allows you to go and

456
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: just add talent to your system, and talent to your

457
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 1: system can help you in the big leagues themselves, or

458
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 1: they can help you acquire talent talent at the deadline,

459
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: and so this thing was kind of weighing me down.

460
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: And so teams they were little what they just didn't

461
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of offers, but the Nationals made

462
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 1: one that that that that we wanted and took about

463
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, and you know, then stayed in the NL East.

464
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Speaker 1: And you know, when fight for a division.

465
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Speaker 2: You stayed in the NL East. You're aware that your

466
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 2: best numbers against like any team are against the Mets.

467
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Speaker 2: What's that like to own the team that you used

468
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Speaker 2: to play for?

469
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Speaker 1: Like and I wouldn't call it owned, played well, played.

470
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Speaker 3: Well fifteen fifty games.

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I was comfortable in that batter's box. I'd

472
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Speaker 1: been in it since two thousand and nine. It was

473
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Speaker 1: interesting to pull in on the dark side, to go

474
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Speaker 1: into the Visiting Clubhouse because the only there the time

475
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Speaker 1: I'd been over there was for David's got a fantasy

476
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Speaker 1: football league that I've been fortunate enough to be in

477
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Speaker 1: for probably now when is it twenty twenty five, like

478
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Speaker 1: fifteen years now, So he hosted that one year. We

479
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: all got together in the visiting clubhouse. So it was

480
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Speaker 1: interesting to kind of walk in like the back way

481
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Speaker 1: into the dark side. But it like I I was more,

482
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Speaker 1: I was motivated, like to do well, to try to

483
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Speaker 1: live up to the value the contract and then also

484
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: like you see your former ball club, it's like, yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind getting you guys too, And we're in

486
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Speaker 1: the same division. We're going to hook up nineteen times,

487
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: like all right, And I think fortunately, like the we

488
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Speaker 1: didn't play each other until like May that year, if

489
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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. It was like deep and it's deeper

490
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Speaker 1: in the season, maybe six weeks now swinging the bat

491
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Speaker 1: pretty well, and then I swing the bat well like

492
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Speaker 1: the first game or two to kind of like settle in,

493
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Speaker 1: because again it's that fight back and forth, like the

494
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: pitching staff like Harvey and Jake are trying to knock

495
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Speaker 1: me through the backstop and I'm I'm trying to go

496
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Speaker 1: that way. I'm not. I would charge you to my

497
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: weapons bigger, you know what I mean. So yeah, that

498
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Speaker 1: was kind of it was. It was it was nice

499
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Speaker 1: to have a good start if if I wanted to

500
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Speaker 1: play well in.

501
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 3: DC started to transition more to this current Mets team.

502
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: While you were playing on Nationals, you did have a

503
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Speaker 3: little bit of overlap with one. So though, what was

504
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Speaker 3: he like as a very very very young player and

505
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Speaker 3: did you ever could you ever feel or foresee that

506
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Speaker 3: he'd become the player he's now become.

507
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Speaker 1: Okay, so it would probably probably be difficult for me

508
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: to predict that he would be you know, Rogers hornsby

509
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: like ops plus and one seventy. But I guess what

510
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: I could say with that is that I was I

511
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: was rehabbing and trying to get healthy because I'd had

512
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Speaker 1: knee surgery in the off season of seventeen, and like,

513
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm running crooked circles, you know what I mean.

514
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm not moving worth the crap, and so I'm kind

515
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Speaker 1: of focused on that when one comes up. So I'm

516
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: watching the games but not attending to them, kind of

517
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Speaker 1: as closely as a rehab player. But I still remember

518
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: Kevin Long. I go, what's up with one? Because he

519
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: had a whole run the other way like one of

520
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: his first games or two, and I was like, man,

521
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: this guy took on the big carry as a nineteen

522
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Speaker 1: year old. I was like, what is going on? And

523
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: so I asked k Long, I go, what's up with

524
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: What's up with one? He goes, He'll never go back down.

525
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: He goes this one's special, like this one's special. I

526
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: was like, okay, and then I got back. I think

527
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Speaker 1: one of my first series back was in Yankee Stadium

528
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Speaker 1: and one hit a home run the other way, and

529
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Speaker 1: it's like you're just there in that box. Nothing was

530
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Speaker 1: ever ever felt like it was moving too fast for him.

531
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Speaker 1: And I think watching him part of that was his

532
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: his choice and his willingness to not ever give away

533
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Speaker 1: a pitch. He never gives away pitches, And that's a

534
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: choice because I've thrown enough in the trash where I

535
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to know it like, and so it

536
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: and what it ends up being contagious, you know what

537
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean. Like if Wan's in there looking for a

538
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: good ball every single pitch from the moment he wakes

539
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: up in the morning, then what excuses do I have.

540
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: It's like watching David, you know what I mean, Like

541
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Speaker 1: what am I gonna do complain about not playing well

542
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: or getting something from the crowd. Like David's out there

543
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: every day standing up for us at the end of

544
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: it and taking it. Not that the fans are giving

545
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: it to him, but you know he said with Jeter

546
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: got booed in New York, so like you're gonna get

547
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: it from time to time, and so it just like

548
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff builds a momentum on itself over

549
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: the course of a long campaign, and you could see it.

550
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: You know, his Wan's in camp right now, like home

551
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: run is first at bat and you see him in

552
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: his work and how he goes about it. It's like, yeah,

553
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: got like he's almost Ted Williams, you know what I mean,

554
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: Like this is fun to watch.

555
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. Also to bring him into a team

556
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: that made to the NLCS last year. Has Francisco Indoor

557
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: brought back, Pete Alonzo, Viento's The list goes on on

558
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: the team's loaded. How do you feel about the Mets

559
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: going into the twenty twenty five season.

560
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: Well, I think that without a doubt, as you talk

561
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: about the momentum of getting into the NLCS and you know,

562
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: really you know, stand in toe to toe. I think

563
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers, you know, Charlie Dodgers last year, I

564
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: think that offensively it's as deep a lineup, like it's

565
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: really deep. Of course you have the Dodgers, but I

566
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: think the depth of the Mets stands up with with

567
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: any other team in the National League, probably in the

568
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Speaker 1: big leagues. It unfortunate news with Francisco Alvarez, which I'm

569
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: sure we'll probably be able to talk about a bit.

570
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: But again, the depth and the ability to go kind

571
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: of switch, you know, left right, left right with protection

572
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: and not anybody be able to get the platoon advantage

573
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: on you for too long. It's not I'm not breaking

574
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: ground to say that. Like the pitching in general, there's

575
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: a couple of hints like to I think mentors coming back,

576
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: you know, easing back into it. And then is it

577
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: Suarez I'm playing like, is he a little banged up

578
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: in camp if I'm not mistaken or no, is there

579
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: a relief pitcher noun? Yez forgive me, thank you very sorry.

580
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing two games at the end of spring training,

581
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: so I'll like get locked in for that, but I'm

582
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: more globally watching my baseball and then Manaya and oh,

583
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: forgive me, we're just talking about yeah, montass as well too,

584
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: So like we're kind of talking to you guys like

585
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: there's there's work that has to be done, like you know,

586
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: the start and pitching. You're kind of hoping to get

587
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: eight hundred innings at them out of the staff, and

588
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: so you know it'll be it'll be the internal options

589
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: that they're working through in spring training. To try and

590
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: to get to the return the health of Manaia and

591
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Mantas and then kind of see what happens at the deadline.

592
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you don't need much. I'm I'm curious to

593
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: see how much the pin gets used early in the

594
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: season to make up maybe for some innings that aren't

595
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: being provided that you thought you might get from the

596
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: starting pitching. So well, these campaigns are fun. You know,

597
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: you still remember to you know, Carlos's first what five

598
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: ball games last year, you know, like the sky was falling,

599
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: like it goes every direction, uh and twice on Sunday,

600
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think that, you know, it would

601
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: be like the Crosstown right now, they're dealing with you know,

602
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: starting pitching health as well, and so it just kind

603
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: of unfortunately that time of year where you're hoping to

604
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: dodge the rain drops and if not between Jeremy Hefner

605
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: and the training staff with you know, Brian Chiciclow who

606
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: I had in Triple A and Joe Golie and Double A,

607
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: like they'll get him back and as strong as ever.

608
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: Just you want to you don't. You don't want to

609
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: get too far behind too early, you know what I

610
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: mean like it, you know, you don't want to have

611
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: to thread the needle. I think that even David Stern's

612
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: kind of alluded to that last year that you're kind

613
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: of we're kind of on the edge there, you know

614
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: what I mean, and like we we got we know,

615
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: we believe in the ball club we have, but we

616
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: got to go. At a certain point, you run out

617
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: of games.

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Speaker 3: So you mentioned that you'll be doing some games toward

619
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Speaker 3: the end of the month on S and Y. You

620
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 3: made your S and Y debut last year. I think,

621
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Speaker 3: speaking for Mark and I speaking for Mets fans, you

622
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: did an amazing job. What's it been like that transition

623
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Speaker 3: trying to be the color guy in a broadcast and

624
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 3: trying to add that to your repertoire.

625
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: Well, I thank you for that. Thank you. That's humbling.

626
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Out nervous like like this is nerve

627
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: wracking stuff. I can't say enough about Gary Cohen and

628
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: just how just goy like he just lays it out

629
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: for you, you know what I mean, and just provide

630
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: such a such an environment to talk baseball. And then

631
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: you know Ron as well too, but I mean he

632
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: does S and Y. He is the reason he gets

633
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: national games like they're the best, and then got to

634
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: work with Keith as well too. But I'd say one

635
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: of the biggest adjustments, honestly was was being the different

636
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: viewpoint of the strike zone and being so far away

637
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: from it. I like to be close to the strike zone,

638
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I like to be real

639
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: close to it. That's what we're fighting over. I like

640
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: to tuck in there as close as I can. So

641
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: it took me from getting used to that.

642
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: So I said, yeah, you got your weapon.

643
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: And it's a big one too. It's bigger than this thing,

644
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: and so had I had to catch myself. I started

645
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: watching the game on the monitor to see what happened

646
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: in the strike zone to see if it was a

647
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: curve or a fastball or like a change of pace,

648
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: and then I would pick the ball up live. So

649
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: that way, if there was a highlight or a replay

650
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: for me to do or some color to do on,

651
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: I knew what pitch it was. I knew what part

652
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: of the strike zone it was in or not in

653
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: is a bad ball, And then I could kind of

654
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: because the first time I did it on which was

655
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: good to do, I was kind of trying to decipher

656
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: what had happened in the zone and the coming together

657
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: at the same time, I was trying to like say

658
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: something that was you know, people wanted to hear, and

659
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: so I was like, I was, ah, I'm just so

660
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: I watched it on the monitor and then pick up

661
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: the ball, and so I've enjoyed that because I like,

662
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: I want to be close to that strike.

663
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Zone watching the game from afar as well.

664
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: Well.

665
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: There's been so many changes that have gone on with

666
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: how the game is being played and the philosophies, especially

667
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: on the hitting and pitching side of things. What's your

668
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: take on the I guess movement forward right now in

669
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: baseball at least, it seems like in the public eye

670
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: that we're very much more analytical focused and rather it's

671
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: not as much performance based every single day.

672
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we end up being like from a

673
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: performance standpoint, once you get to the big leagues, it's

674
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good meritocracy. It seems that maybe there's

675
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: a level of data that may give guys opportunities in

676
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: the minor leagues that they might not have gotten previously

677
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: if they weren't being productive. Like we like, we like

678
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: the way that your curve performs, it spends at this

679
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: you know RPMs, which we have learned that you know

680
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: that has success. So if we can learn to get

681
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: you to throw, it will kind of keep giving you chances.

682
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: I think that I'm not I don't overly love machines personally.

683
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Like I think part of the reason that I had

684
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: the fortunate and be so fortunate to be accurate, that

685
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: was kind of my unique skill is my dad threw

686
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: to me as a child all the time. If I asked,

687
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: he was throwing, and so I got good at dancing.

688
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: I think this is a dance between the pitcher and

689
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: the battery with my father, you know what I mean.

690
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: And I got accurate, and then I was going to

691
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: actually ask you guys, like I remember my baseball growing up,

692
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: not as much cheering for a specific team like Atlanta

693
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: would have been the closest one to us because they

694
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: were on TV. But I remember it as playing like

695
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: I just remember playing like all the time. That's all

696
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I wanted to play with my peers.

697
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to get at bats and hit. And so

698
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: I think that the machine pitch, while you can probably

699
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: get more reps. You know what, I mean in a

700
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: shorter amount of time. There's something about seeing that ball

701
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: come out of somebody's hand. And when I think back

702
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: to like who I would consider the two greatest hitters

703
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: of all time, like Babe Ruth and Ted Williams, all

704
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: they did was play with their peers unsupervised. They didn't

705
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: have no coaches out there. They had the scoreboard, and

706
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: you had to learn how to problem solve. So like,

707
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: if you like to run the bases, you better learn

708
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: how to be accurate because you only get three swipes

709
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: at this thing unless they throw a stripe, you know

710
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so I think that there's an

711
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: opportunity for the youth and kind of baseball to problem

712
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: solve better if we're not so on top of them,

713
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like let them have their style.

714
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: When's the last time you saw somebody with some Mellot

715
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: sort of style, you know what I mean, Like like

716
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: Josh Hamilton had a nice little battip to them, but

717
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: like we like Teddley's, like, don't don't mess with their style.

718
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: Like I think that children, because I'm in the youth

719
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: kind of right now watching my boys play, children are

720
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: the best movers you know what I mean, they'd move,

721
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: They moved beautifully. What they lack is accuracy, But they

722
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: spend thirty hours a week in school. So why do

723
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: would I expect you to be accurate with this? I

724
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: wasn't accurate with it on defense, you know what I mean?

725
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: So why would I expect you to be? And so

726
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: I think that there's, yeah, there's kind of that opportunity.

727
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: And so I know you guys ever been on a

728
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: machine before and never hit against one?

729
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: Like yeah, uh, James likes makes fun of me because

730
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: I talk about my high school baseball days like very

731
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: fondly on the podcast and it's it's always roading joke.

732
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, like there's there is nothing like hitting off

733
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: of a live arm. Like the live arm is always better.

734
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: It's always you get a much better read on it.

735
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: Like my dad through VP to me, same thing, whenever

736
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: I wanted, he was ready to go. But yeah, hitting

737
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: off the machine, I've I've hit off of one of

738
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: the new machines recently where you can literally like copy

739
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: Jacob de Grom's slide.

740
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: That that trajec thing, yes, totect.

741
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: One, and then on top of that, hitting with like

742
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: a rap Sodo machine and seeing how hard you're hitting

743
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: it in launch angle, it's like very overwhelming if that's

744
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: not something you were used to. But at the same

745
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: time it's like, wow, I kind of wish I had

746
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: some more at least.

747
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: The choice of it. Yeah, maybe the choice of it.

748
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: All right. So here's been my explanation of hitting off

749
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 1: a machine. And the traject may be different because I

750
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: haven't done like the newest one. I've done one before,

751
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: but which is like some run of the mill guy,

752
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: not like the grom out there. Yes, but I equate

753
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: the pitching machine like a straight fast one out of

754
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: the pitching machine, like go into the eye doctor and

755
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: when they put that puff air in your eye and

756
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: you kind of go like this, that's what it feels

757
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: like when the ball comes out, Like when somebody, Yeah,

758
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: when somebody kind of comes into me and gets their

759
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: wind up going to their stretch, it's like I can

760
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: get in the rhythm with you and kind of get

761
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: in the style. It's more difficult to do in my

762
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: experience with that. So that's been my machine one. And

763
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: I agree with you, you know, as far as like

764
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: to have the access to it, for sure, But I

765
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: do think that still as best as if you can

766
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: get someone to throw to you. I just think of

767
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: the number of bats that like these old school guys had,

768
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: Like when they got done playing a season, they went

769
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: and barnstormed. If I had to do it again, I

770
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: would play more winter ball. Really, I would do less

771
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: weight room and play more winter ball. If I want

772
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: to get better at baseball, I think if I play

773
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: more baseball, I'll get better at it.

774
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: Do you think that a lot of the injuries right

775
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: now in general that are coming up are because players

776
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: are focused a lot more on weightlifting rather than like

777
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: saying loose type of thing and playing more baseball.

778
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that if you can, if

779
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: you throw and hit more and learn how to I

780
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: think this is a punch. You're throwing a punch from

781
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: the mound. You got two of them always, And then

782
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: I tell my boys too, I got you got two punchers,

783
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: and you've got two kickers. You know what I mean?

784
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: So you what those old school guys kind of learn

785
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: how to do, is they learn how to throw a

786
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: punch they could throw over and over again, all right.

787
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I think that also that if someone else is teaching you,

788
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: like what to do with the ball, and how to

789
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: hold it and how to throw it, and how to

790
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: shape it specifically. That's not necessarily your punch in your style,

791
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: that's theirs. Now you don't know if this coaching what

792
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: it's doing to you. So I more prefer like I

793
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: have my son, he throws curve balls. You know, he's

794
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: eleven years old, he's about to be and I'll go,

795
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: he goes, Dad, am I allowed to throw curves? And

796
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: all the kids I'll tell him. I go, absolutely, I go,

797
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: what kind of curve you want to throw? You can

798
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: throw one side to side, you can throw one over

799
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: the top, you can throw any kind of shape you

800
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: want to go, Paint a picture of the of the

801
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: want and send it like I don't. I don't think

802
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: that Candy Cummings when he started throwing a curve with

803
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: his rock, you know what I mean, like was gonna

804
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: break that way? He just started curving it. Now you

805
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: could say he's not doing it at the velocity, and

806
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: that definitely plays a role. But I'd like to see

807
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: kind of less specific coaching on like the positions you

808
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: should get into, and more coaching on like what's the

809
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: scoreboard telling us right now? And how can I teach

810
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: you how to hunt in this situation because we got

811
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: to score more runs than the other guys.

812
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: Daniel has been great talking. I feel like we keep

813
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: you here for hours. We can find stuff to talk

814
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: about all day, Baseball, the Mets, whatever it is. But

815
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to wrap this up for a second.

816
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: So just a couple of final kind of more random

817
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: questions before we let you go. You've talked about facing

818
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: guys like Jake. You were part of an era where

819
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: there was probably the last true era of the starting

820
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: picture Kershoff Orlander. These guys sure as are who've become

821
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: masters of the game, future Hall of famers, who might

822
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: have been the toughest picture you ever had to face

823
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: in your career, someone who always had your number. That

824
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: would be maybe a bit of a surprise.

825
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: Defans, Oh snack, Okay, that's an interesting question because I

826
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: think relief pitcher, nobody will be surprised. I I like

827
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: my last at that or two off of Josh Hater,

828
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Like the last one looks like I'm from benchwarmers, Like yeah,

829
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: like it's I called a hit and run on myself

830
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: and still didn't have a chance, Like I had no chance,

831
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: And then like whenever Cliff Lee would get in the

832
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: spot because like Cliff, Cliff understood I think maybe first

833
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: and foremost that his job was to get deep in

834
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: the game. Like it feels like he was trying to

835
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: finish what he started. So he would I wouldn't say,

836
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: have the governor on, but he would know how to

837
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: get through the lineup if there was nobody on base.

838
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: But he was a different human, and when there was

839
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: runners in scoring position, he would start throwing things it

840
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: just hadn't seen until there are runners on. So he

841
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: was he was difficult to face, like really difficult. And

842
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: then someone that nobody I wouldn't say, wouldn't expect it

843
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: have to be. It's definitely a lefty. I can't really

844
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: yeah this. I'm trying to think if there was a

845
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: lefty or two, like, uh, it's it'd be like left

846
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: handers like I just I hit on the left side

847
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: because I like having the platoon advantage. You know, I mean,

848
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: most of the world's right handed, so only thing better

849
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: would have been switched, but I couldn't do it.

850
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: What do you think is the most underappreciated trait in

851
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball right now?

852
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: Accuracy? All right?

853
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: As in command for a picture.

854
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Accuracy when I booted a ball where you're like, oh

855
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: my goodness, I can't. I love that Daniel is so

856
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: accurate catching the ball. So it's like, you know, go ahead, please, I.

857
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: Say, you got a call two years ago to come back,

858
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: and you got a couple of coffee and triple A

859
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: with the Angels? Are is it over? Is it officially

860
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: over for Daniel Murphy?

861
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay. So I came back because I started watching

862
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: the way Babe Ruth hit and I was like, I

863
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: didn't hit like that. I had a completely different move.

864
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: But then I'll watch my boys if I give him

865
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: a heavy enough bat getting the same exact positions that

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Speaker 1: Babe Ruth gets into, and Ted Williams and Roger Hornsby

867
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: and Griffy. Griffy took us back in time, in my opinion.

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00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: So I got to thinking, what is it that that

869
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: children have in relation to Babe Ruth at similar It's like, well,

870
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: Ruth wasn't really coached how to hit, you know what

871
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like specifically, and the child hasn't been coached.

872
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: And then I don't really coach my boys on positions.

873
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: I just tell him to nuke, you know, what I mean,

874
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: and that's it just hit this thing to the sun,

875
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: and I give him heavy bats and so like I

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00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: got my seven year old, you know, I got videos

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00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: of him swinging a thirty five inch, thirty five ounce

878
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: lou Gary bat. But it's it's a store it's a sword,

879
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's a stick. He likes stwords.

880
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: It's just a bigger one. But he's smart. He likes

881
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: to hit baseball, so he figured out he'll snap that

882
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: thing right in there. He gets in the same positions

883
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: as Ruth. Ruth's just more accurate because he's done it more.

884
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just a couple of for sure. Who's your

885
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: favorite baseball player to watch right now in the league?

886
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: M hm, So difficult to not say Mike Trout when

887
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: he's healthy, because like Roger hornsby ops plus you know

888
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, one seventy two and now Judge is

889
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: right there as well. And also I don't understand how

890
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: right handers do it. I just don't get it. I

891
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: know how you do it from that side of the plate.

892
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: You got to stick your nose in there on curves

893
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: like seventy five percent of the time. It looks miserable

894
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: like they just I don't I don't know how they

895
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: do it. So those those guys are are really impressive.

896
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: I find myself like I'll watch Trout, like I'll go

897
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: out of my way to watch Mike, so I pray

898
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: that he's healthy because it's much better for our ball game.

899
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: And then like Soto's at bats, like these guys that

900
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: don't give away pitches, those are kind of the things

901
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: I end up attending to. Specifically, this this.

902
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: Is my last one. Mark if you got another one,

903
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: we like to ask a lot of the ballplayers to

904
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: come on here. When you signed that first big contract,

905
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: was the first thing you bought?

906
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: Well, what's your definition of big? Because I thought that,

907
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: like arbitration year one was pretty big. Does that count? Yeah?

908
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: You can tell us the most fun Yeah, the most

909
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: fun thing I got?

910
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: Got right?

911
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: So, okay, I probably went I went to Total Wine

912
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: because my dad's from Kentucky, so he likes bourbon. So

913
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: I find myself kind of like a little bourbon, you know,

914
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: a little little whiskey old Scotch, and so I went

915
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: to Total Wine and probably got like, I don't know,

916
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: like a twelve hundred dollars Battle of Scotch. And it

917
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: was like, wow, nice, we'll celebrate this, you know what

918
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean. So that would have been, Yeah, that would.

919
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Have been I was gonna have no more questions. But

920
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: now I got to know, go to whiskey or scotch.

921
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: You said you like it? What do you what are

922
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: you buying?

923
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like if I could just if I could

924
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: find it anytime I want. There's this It's called Tully

925
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: bar Dyne. It's a Scotch. It's just kind of got

926
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: some sweetness to it. And I think I've had like

927
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe the twenty year or something like that.

928
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: If I can find that kind of this Tully a

929
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: little bit older Tolly bar Dyne, that's what I would do.

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00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't drink a ton, but if I am like

931
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: it's that that tastes good.

932
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: Nice all right, James, nothing else. I think we're good.

933
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Speaker 2: To wrap us up, Murph, thank you so much for

934
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: joining us. Hopefully we can have you on again a

935
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: couple of times during the season would be great talking

936
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: more baseball with you. If there's anything you want to

937
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: plug again here at the end, this will be your shot,

938
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: and we appreciate you coming on.

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00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think again, Thank you guys so much

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00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: for having me, thank you for letting me talk about

941
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: my wife's charity. She's really kind of poured her heart

942
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: into that and it's gotten so well received by you know,

943
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: our baseball community and just everyone. So no, thank you

944
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: guys very much. And let's pray for salute and good

945
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: health for everyone here out of camp and everybody can

946
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: get out of here for opening Day.

947
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more, everybody. Daniel Murphy, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Tears four