1 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the Wrap. 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy to say that I'm back with 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Erica Jay. 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: Hey, babe, how are you? 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: I missed you? 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: I missed you too, Like where have you? You've been 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: all over the place. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: I've been all over the place. And we just got 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: back from our cast trip. 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Oh is it going to be a juicy one? 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it. It does not disappoint, 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: it does not disappoint. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: And level of wonder ten. How exhausted are you now? 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean I'm okay now, but when I came home, 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: I was definitely sleepy, Yeah, like a little You know 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: those things, and I know that the viewers really enjoyed them, 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: but they're very difficult to make. And you know this, 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you're going to bed at five 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: am and waking up at ten to do it all again. 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: It's a lot. Yeah, it's pretty NonStop. It's pretty NonStop. 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: But we stayed in the most beautiful Teddy. I'm telling you, 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: I think it's most the most beautiful place we've ever stayed. 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: Really. 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a great trip. It was beautiful. Love 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: Italy yeah, was. 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: There any room meeting up or everybody had their own rooms? 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Everybody had their own room. Now, no, everybody had their 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: own room. It was it was none of that. But yeah, 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: it was really great. 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: None of that. So we have real houselights, Orange County 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Season nineteen. 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: Episode eight. Here we are, Here we are. 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Before the episode even starts, we get the flashback reminder 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: of Katie and her husband having the discussion and Matt going, hey, 36 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: you might as well just call, you know, tell them 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: their fucking liars, right, So I'm curious if we're going 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: to have the same stance on this, but we'll get 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: there when we get there. It starts out with Shannon 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: her dad Jean. 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: How sweet is this man? And how sharp? 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: Shannon, if you're listening, you know I didn't have a dad. 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: I am so jealous of your father, your relationship with 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: your dad. He just seems like a gentleman and sharp 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: and fabulous. 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: Of course, I. 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: Enjoyed this so much. I just think it's wonderful. 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: Well, he's very like old school in the way that 50 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: he like talks. 51 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: No, but it's Jane the machine. He's a gentleman, Jean 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: the Machine. 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Jeane the Machine ninety six and. 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: Just bright and sharp and with it. 55 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: He knew how to give it to her, like, well, 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: I won't. 57 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Be driving today, adorable. 58 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: He had to stick it to her a little bit, 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: make a joke. 60 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: Jean the Machine, You are precious. 61 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Then a Marilyn Monroe impersonator comes out and brings Jane 62 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: a Jeane the Machine hat and sings him Happy Birthday. 63 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: I love it. Why not? 64 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 65 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: Love ninety six once. I mean, most most of people 66 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: get ninety six, and when they do, they're not as 67 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: sharp as Gene the Machine. 68 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Jeane the Machine. I love that. Shannon also goes, you know, 69 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to date anyone right now, as if 70 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: she wasn't just on a reality dating show. 71 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: This is true, and her dad kind of gave it 72 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: to her. Yeah, it's kind of funny. I love it. 73 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely kind of gave it to her. Then 74 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: we've got where what is that restaurant. 75 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: They go to, Matt Javiers, Well. 76 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: That was Javier's. But no, the restaurant where Gretchen and 77 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: Gina meet for lunch. 78 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. 79 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen that place a lot of times. 80 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, we always see the same places and you know why, Yeah, where. 81 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: They can get Well, Gretchen and Gina meet for lunch. 82 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Gretchen explains to Gina that she doesn't understand why Katie 83 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: would be bringing up any conversation to a reporter. Gretchen 84 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: does say she thought it was in a safe space 85 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: when having that conversation, so it makes it seem like 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: she did reveal the information. 87 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and there is no such safe space with a reporter. 88 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: It's not you can't do that. 89 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: Right, But no, she's saying she was in a safe 90 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: space when she was having a conversation with Katie, is 91 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: what I think she was saying. 92 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Again, there's no safe space with Katie. Yeah, which is 93 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: what we find out as we go on. Yeah, you know, 94 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: I know you say you're going to see it differently, but. 95 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, then Kiki Monique meets up with them. Kiki 96 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: clarifies that Katie did tell her that Gretchen had to 97 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: go to the hospital because she was drugged. She also 98 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: says Gretchen is feeling extremely betrayed, and then Kiki also 99 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: tells them that Katie brought Gina's name up about implying 100 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: that Gina made a racist comment about Katie's jacket is 101 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: that an Asian designer? Then when Kiki leaves, Gretchen starts 102 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: crying about how messed up it is. Gretchen's performance here 103 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: is kind of embarrassing to me. I think like she 104 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: deserved a razzie for it. 105 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: A razzi. Well, look, I think when you do these things, 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: this is what happens, you know. 107 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: So let's break down because I haven't really been talking 108 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: to you about this. So because you've been gone, you 109 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: have more of an issue with Katie here than you 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: do with Gretchen. 111 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, I dislike both behavior, but Katie's has gone on 112 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: longer than Gretchen's. 113 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Well, Gretchen's has potentially been going on since the beginning 114 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: of time. 115 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: We don't know, We didn't want I'm just but I 116 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: didn't watch it back then. So I was gonna let 117 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: like the over fifteen year old beef die. But apparently 118 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: it's still alive, you know what I mean? Like, oh good, 119 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: and here we go and here we go. But the 120 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: whole thing about bringing quote outside reporters in, like this 121 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: is not the way you do housewives. I'm sorry, that's 122 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: just not what you do. The show is about a 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: group of women and friendships within that you don't drag 124 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: in outside sources to do what to write your battles 125 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: for you to leak information like this is not what's 126 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 2: going on. If I was in charge of this show, 127 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: I would absolutely say that's an no. No. 128 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's not only a note. I mean, granted, 129 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm not giving Katie a free pass here, but I 130 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: am saying I do think Gretchen told her. Yeah, very possible, 131 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: even though I don't. You know, we'll get to lie 132 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: detect her test later, but I think Gretchen told her, 133 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: and I think Gretchen told her. I don't know that 134 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Gretchen can keep track of what she's saying, because sometimes 135 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: she says that she did go to the hospital. Sometimes 136 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: she says I. 137 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: Saw that too, like she's it's kind of semantics. No, 138 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: I said I was sick enough to go to the hospital. 139 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: The drugged thing was. And I remember in Atlanta when 140 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: there was that whole accusation of well, Phaedra brought out 141 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: that Candy had potentially Candy and Todd were going to 142 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: drug Porsche like this is you know, we didn't see Phaedra. 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: After that, Yeah we didn't, Yeah, we didn't. 144 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: And so this to me when you use the word 145 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: drugged and shit like that, Like, now we're stepping into 146 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: something else other than a Housewives show. 147 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: So in your mind, you think, Gretchen, this is before 148 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Gretchen was back on the show. She goes to dinner 149 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: with Jen and Gretchen and their husbands and they are 150 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: all just shit talking, and then all of a sudden, 151 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Gretchen doesn't realize it's going to come back and bite 152 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: her in the ass. 153 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: Right, And this is what happens when you do that, 154 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: when you go to dinner off camera and you have 155 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: your husbands and you have these conversations, you never have 156 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: a clean chance here. Yeah, and that's that's really what 157 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: in my opinion, that's what this is. 158 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: And then what are your thoughts on this? Gina comment 159 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: which Gina comment, Gina commenting, oh, is that an Asian designer? 160 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, but it didn't feel like 161 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: it was a slight. 162 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: Well, Gina then later on says, you know, she was 163 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: saying it as a compliment or as a question or 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: as a compliment. But then but then it made it 165 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: seem like she was putting her down because I guess 166 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: when Katie first came on the show. She said, I'm 167 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: only going to be wearing Asian designers, and it was 168 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: this cool thing and she was excited about it. Well, 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: but then she started coming on wearing only like Balenciaga, and. 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: Like so it changed, it changed, it changed. She had 171 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: kind of size are for changing. If you're saying I'm 172 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: only going to do this, which is great, support whom 173 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: you want to support? And I don't you know, was 174 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: it chatty? Possibly? I need more context. 175 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I think we're good. Well, I think we'll probably get somebody. 176 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: I think after this episode, we don't see Katie much anymore. 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: That's what I was told. 178 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that this is and we just little 179 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: super tease. I think I have Katie on the pod 180 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: next week, Do you really? I think so, so I'll 181 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: be able to because what I think is happening is 182 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: I think Katie had the potential and has the potential 183 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: to be a good housewife. 184 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't run your mouth like this. 185 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: But you can't run your mouth like this. And if 186 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: you can't, if you are going to run your mouth, 187 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: you need to got. 188 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: To own up. You got to own up to it 189 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: and do it to your face. Yeah, you can't tell 190 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: everybody else about the person you're talking about. 191 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: But then why is everybody else acting like Jen wasn't 192 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: a part of this conversation. 193 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: Because it's easier to focus on Katie. 194 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then it's everybody focusing on Katie and nobody 195 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: focusing on the fact that Jen has pretend amnesia. 196 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's a real thing that pretend 197 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: damnesia can can be a real thing. But I think 198 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: that there's look, Katie is in the forefront, and then 199 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: I think they can turn their sights onto Jen. I 200 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: think it's one person at a time. 201 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean, do we think that Gretchen needs to involve 202 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: and pray and every single episode when it comes to 203 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: the female drama, I really don't. I don't either. Then 204 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: the girls arrived at Emily's Persian New Year party. 205 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: I didn't even know Shane was Persian, but I found out. 206 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: Well yeah, well I knew because they had had a 207 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: party back before. But I didn't know anything about the 208 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: egg thing. 209 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this egg. I don't know. 210 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: I'm I didn't know it's Persian New Year. I didn't 211 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: know anything about the culture. 212 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: I also didn't know it's a different date. I couldn't 213 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: believe Tam or new to ask if it was a 214 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: different date. 215 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: I mean, very interesting. I know I did notice that, 216 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: you know, Shane and Emily's you know, obviously upset by 217 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: Luke's diagnosis, in Luke's behavior and how he kind of, 218 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: I guess, slid backwards after New Orleans and men and 219 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: women see things differently, and I know that she feels, yeah, And. 220 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: I think men have a different way of wanting to 221 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: express it, especially when you're on camera. 222 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: Well, men would solve problems. They don't. They just don't 223 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: communicate and do things like we do. And yes, the 224 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: camera makes everything. 225 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Worse, everything worse. And she's you can tell that Emily's internalizing. 226 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: A lot, a lot, a lot. That hurts. Yeah, it hurts. 227 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: And Shane, I think is trying for whether he does 228 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: it all the time or whether he does it solely 229 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: when they're on camera, is trying to downplay it because 230 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: I think he doesn't want it to be as or 231 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: just be calm. 232 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's just a man's reaction, like let's 233 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: not run away with the emotion, let's stay with the facts, 234 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: let's stay. 235 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard, it's very difficult. 236 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: And educate, and it's just it's it's. 237 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: There's so many unanswered questions at this point. 238 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: They just it's it's hard, and so. 239 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: She's having, you know, to go back and forth between 240 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: you know, the drama with the housewives and her. 241 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: Child and her child, and the child supersedes everything, of course, 242 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: as as it should. 243 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Heather tells Emily and Gina how pissed Tamra was 244 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: that no one reached out to Tamra. Do you consider 245 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: a reach out the night of something happening a reach 246 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: out or you'd want a post reach out? So that 247 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: was really what because the girls are saying some of 248 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: us are like, we reached out that night. 249 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: I think it's an individual thing. Sometimes. I think people 250 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: need spacetimes. I think people need in the moment, like, hey, 251 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: that was pretty raw for you, all right. For me, 252 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: it's an individual thing. And it's also I also want 253 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: to say this, it can be manipulative. Yeah what if 254 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: we're not you know, oh when I reached out to you, 255 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: it's like, don't you know, stop fucking games. I think 256 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: it's an individual, case by case basis. 257 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: But if you saw somebody really struggling, I would Yeah, 258 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think that episode we saw 259 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Tamra struggling. 260 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would probably reach out no matter how 261 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: and be like, look, none of this is that important, 262 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Is that important? None of 263 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: this is that, None of this is. 264 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: Then they kind of show they do a little flashback 265 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: to a scene of Tamra and how they're talking, which 266 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: this made me think they really can't even go half 267 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: an episode or a full episode without Tamra. 268 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: No, you can't, you can't, you can't. 269 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, there's there's select amount of 270 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: housewives where that that happens. 271 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and she's one of them. 272 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: She's one of them. 273 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's just the way it is down there, 274 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: that is. I mean, it's just like if you're going 275 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: to cut Kyle out of you know, you can't do that. 276 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: You can't. 277 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: You can't, you know, you just can't. 278 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: There's just there's something that brings everybody together, whether it's 279 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: to fight or to get along or to have fun moments. 280 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: And that's what that you know, that's what glue, the 281 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: glue that Tamor is. 282 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Katie is annoyed that she is on the 283 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: ouse with everyone because she is the one keeping Gretchen's secret. 284 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: What is the secret? Again? 285 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: The secret is that Gretchen actually told her all of 286 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: this stuff about going to the hospital. Ah, and so 287 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: she keeps telling everybody. You know, I didn't say anything 288 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: to Kiki Munique. I did. And and but. 289 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: Why why he is Katie keeping Gretchen secret. She doesn't 290 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: owe her anything because. 291 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: I think she doesn't want to admit that she told 292 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Kiki Monique. 293 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: But I also, Monique just sat there and out at you, 294 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: and Kiki Monique is going to do what's right for 295 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: Kiki Monique. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And you 296 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,239 Speaker 2: can't blame Kiki Monique. 297 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: No, she's gonna do it. 298 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: She's going to do what's right for her. And I 299 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: thought that she came in and she was reasonable. It 300 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: didn't feel like she was. 301 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: She wasn't trash talking. 302 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: No, she was pretty straightforward. But again, we can't, in 303 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: my opinion, do these things on the shows because now 304 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: you're pulling in these other things that look, guys, the 305 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: show was within the cast. Keep it there. 306 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: And if Katie really wanted to bring up that past thing, 307 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: she should have just brought it up. 308 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 309 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: She should have just said, hey, Tamra. If I were you, 310 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't trust Gretchen because not even six months 311 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: ago she said the following to. 312 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: Me, And honestly, it would have given Katie a lot 313 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: of points within the group. 314 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, And then Gretchen would have 315 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: had to a friend. 316 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 317 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: But instead now it's drawing all these weird things. 318 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: You can't. Whenever you start to do that, just advocate 319 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: for yourself, say what you know, say that's policy. 320 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Then the girls write down questions they have for 321 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: each person. 322 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: Which I thought was kind of fun. 323 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: I thought I thought was kind of fun, but I 324 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: wanted to see each of the questions. 325 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 326 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, can we scroll in a 327 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: little bit here? 328 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? It felt a little thanks. 329 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: I like, these are nice, They're cute. 330 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. You got to get a pair of super. 331 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: Comfortable That's what I was thinking. I was like, hey, 332 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: these are very these look these are. 333 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: Fine and you can wear them all the time. 334 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't mind us. We got a little sidetracked. But 335 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: then Tamra. 336 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: Does arrive, which is good, which she should. 337 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: She arrives and she seems she seems more settled. Yep, 338 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: Like she seems more settled she arrives, Emily tells Tama 339 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: today will be pivotal for the group, and Katie goes 340 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: to the bathroom because she feels sick. At this point, 341 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: they're not serving alcohol at the event, which hasn't really 342 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: fully tipped anybody off on why they might not be, 343 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: which is the detector test. Yeah, but they don't know 344 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: they're having. 345 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: The light detector test. It's kind of awesome, which is 346 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: pretty great, but I didn't like that the light detector 347 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: test was the same guy that did the vander Pump 348 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: light detector test with Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy, I'm serious. 349 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: So I think that maybe there has to be some 350 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: other service, like maybe we should call them. 351 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe. 352 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: I did like the female though, I thought that she 353 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: was interesting. 354 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: I thought she was interesting too, but I was like, 355 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: if it's the same company over and over again, like, 356 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: what are we doing? What are we doing? Is this 357 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: the only guy we can get? 358 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: And also I'm tired of the lie detector gag. However, 359 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: in this particular situation was kind of interesting. 360 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: They gave us more information on what makes you pass 361 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: the lie detect test, which then I wonder because Katie's 362 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: in a state of anxiety. 363 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: Is is this thing? This is how you're going to 364 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: defend this failure. 365 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't know she failed every single question? I mean 366 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: did they? I would assume there's questions we saw that 367 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: we didn't see. 368 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: They're going to Katie, right, are you? Is your name? 369 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Teddy Millen Camp? 370 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: I want to know did she fail those answers to 371 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: Probably not, because I think they said that she failed 372 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: all of them. 373 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: Well, the I want to say, probably the important ones 374 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: that they were not. The obvious is the sky blue. 375 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: I'd have been like, which sky I have no idea, 376 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? I don't know, you know whatever. 377 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: So, but so there's a little scene, there's a tiny 378 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: little clip off. It's it's about five seconds, pretty telling. Yeah, 379 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: where Katie goes I don't know what to ask and 380 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: Jen goes question. Yeah, that means Jen know's Gen knows. 381 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: Jen knows Gen knows. 382 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: So why is Jen keeping her mouth shut about all 383 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: of this? 384 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: Would you want to get in this fight? 385 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: I would at least say, Gretchen, you told us all this. 386 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: Maybe she's trying to protect Gretchen. 387 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: As well more than her best friend Katie. 388 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: Well, when you're saving your own hide, you have no 389 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: best friends. 390 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: True, but I mean, come on it, really, I don't know. 391 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: And then Gina saying to Gretchen there's a plan really 392 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: makes it seem like the light detector people were given 393 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: specific instructions. 394 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure, yeah, yeah dah. 395 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: So then the girls go to take the light detector test. 396 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: And Katie like has to go to the bathroom because 397 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: she's having a lot of anxiety. 398 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, she has to go to the bathroom. She's gagging 399 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: or who knows what's happening. 400 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: Whatever's happening. 401 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: We're hearing noise, we're hearing noise. 402 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: Maybe she's vomiting. 403 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: Maybe she's vomiting. She's at this point, I'm like, all 404 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: I can think about is the LVP guy and puppy gate. 405 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: So that's I'm getting, having your own anxiety. 406 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm having my own. 407 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: You're on posts. But you know it's interesting, like in 408 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things, when you look at this ship. 409 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Now are you like, I'm like, why did I care 410 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: about that? 411 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: Right? 412 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Why did I care about that? And I don't even 413 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: remember if she passed or failed the light detector test. 414 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: I think he pastors pastor. 415 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: He passed her, but then she was never seen again. 416 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, he passed her, she was 417 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: never seen again. You do the math, yeah, so, but 418 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: you know, God. 419 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: Also, I've read something that if you don't, if you're 420 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: not like delayered to a certain point, the light detector 421 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: tests don't even really work. 422 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: You mean on your skin, on your skin. Yeah. Well, 423 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: here's the other thing too, It is there are different 424 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: levels of polygraph and different skill levels of people that 425 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: administer them. I think like the you know, whomever's doing 426 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: it in law enforcement's probably a lot better than the 427 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: one they get for us and nun. 428 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Have you ever had to take one? Oh no, yeah, 429 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: you neither. 430 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: No. 431 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if I could pass one, or if i'd 432 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: be too jittery even if I wasn't lying. 433 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: Well, that's a certain level of expectation. You shouldn't be 434 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: somewhat nervous. It's like if the police come to the 435 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 2: house and say that it's like, you know, yeah, the 436 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: fuck is this? There's a certain level of expectation and 437 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: people to have anxiety just at a base level. 438 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so you'd be like, oh, we'll see. But 439 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: they ask a bunch of questions. Do you want to 440 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: go down these one by one? 441 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: I mean if I detect her moderator comes down to 442 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: read the results. Tamra failed her answer of yes, being 443 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 2: told she was on the spectrum, thoughts. 444 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: Well, I think she said I could be semantics semantics, 445 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: so I think that's a semantics. 446 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: But she took a lot of shit for that. She 447 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: took a lot of ship for it in real time. Yeah, 448 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: and shouldn't say it again, like, yeah, don't say it again, 449 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: just let it go. Jen significantly failed her answer no 450 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: to the question of if she has any reservations about 451 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: marrying Ryan. 452 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: What do you think that is? Do you think that's 453 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: about the finance all of it? 454 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: And I think that that's pretty normal. Look, we see 455 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: on these shows and I'm going to even, like say, 456 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: my own past marriage, trying to put the best, you know, 457 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: foot forward, showing the best of the relationship, you too, 458 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: all of this, and you know the truth is like, yeah, 459 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: I would be nervous too, you know, I would be 460 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: nervous too. And she has a lot of kids, has 461 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: a lot of kids, a lot of responsibilities, and he's 462 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: got his own thing going which we've talked about, and 463 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: so sure, yeah, you know, Heather passed her. So if 464 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: she wanted to do Beverly Hills, come on by? You know? 465 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: And I get it. I mean, you know, come on by, girl, 466 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: come on by. Heather failed the answer of no for 467 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: calling the paparazzi at Disneyland. I'm disappointed in this, I 468 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: pointed in this answer. I know I want disappointed in 469 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: this answer. I wanted her to pass that because I 470 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: didn't think that it just doesn't sound like so what 471 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't sound like Heather, feel like Heather, 472 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: And what's the big deal? 473 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: And who cares? 474 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: Exactly? Who cares? But I was disappointed in this answer. 475 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: Gretchen passed her answer of no to the question of 476 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: if she told Katie and Jin that she was drugged? 477 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: How is that possible? 478 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: This is where I'm struggled. So I am too, So 479 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: let's talk this out. Okay, So she passes the lie 480 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: detective test, but we see her say something. So what 481 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: is going on here? 482 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: We've seen her say four different things, right, So maybe 483 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: she genuinely doesn't Maybe she was out they were partying 484 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: it up. She knows she told some form of the story. 485 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: She doesn't know what extent she got into and what 486 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: she embellished and what she didn't see. 487 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 2: When you're saying drugged though, that's it like you're stepping 488 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: into a. 489 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: Place that's like and you also know if you went 490 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: to the hospital or not. 491 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: Hell, yeah you do. You know if you go to 492 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: a hospital, you really do? You really do? 493 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: And we've heard her aunt, We've heard her say to Tamra, 494 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: We've heard her say to multiple people, no, I didn't 495 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: or I needed to go or I did go. 496 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: Right, So this here is you know, that's this is 497 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: a reunion This right here is a reunion situation. Yeah, 498 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: they need they need to get this down. Gretchen passed 499 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: the answer of no to the question of if she 500 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: went to the hospital after naked wasted. 501 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, then Tamra and Shannon are confused. So I Gretchen 502 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: told them she did go to the hospital. 503 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you say that? But you know, she 504 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: passed her answer of no. 505 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: Supposedly, well, according to the powers that be, Gretchen hold 506 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: her whole test was toothful. 507 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, which I I I'm confused because the camera doesn't either. 508 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen you not be right not telling her. 509 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: So this is like, do we continue to do these 510 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: stupid light detector tests because the camera and the ship 511 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: that comes out of your mouth. 512 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: Like we're seeing flashback scenes. 513 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 2: We just watched this, right, so who's wrong here? 514 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes no sense. 515 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: It makes no sense. 516 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: Then Katie failed her answer of no to the question 517 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: if she told Kiki that Gretchen said she was drug 518 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: and hospitals. To me, there's no question she told Yeah, 519 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: she told her. 520 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: She told her, She told her again, stop talking. 521 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: But she wouldn't have told her if she wasn't told 522 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: she's not gonna make it. I don't think she made 523 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: She didn't pull it out of thin air. I do 524 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: believe Gretchen told Katie that and Katie repeated it to Kiki. 525 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that's the very logical argument. 526 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's a very logical way to say, like, I 527 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: don't think Katie's gonna pull it out of thin air, 528 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: that Gretchen said this and then go tell Kike. Yeah, 529 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: I mean that's I don't think Katie's been truthful. But 530 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: that's a real stretch. Yeah. 531 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: Then Katie failed her answer of note to the question 532 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: if she played Shannon's recording for alexis I believe that, 533 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: believe that, I believe Why doesn't she. 534 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: Just say yes? Because sometimes when you're in these things. 535 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: You just can't do it. You know, you just can't 536 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: be honest. You just can't be honest. You can't say 537 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: you fucked up, you can't do this. 538 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: But if she just came in blazing saying, you know, yeah, 539 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: I did, I talked, I did this over and over again, 540 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: Like I feel like she'd be in less in a 541 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: fight with these girls. 542 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: I think so, But I think but Katie's also new 543 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: and probably feels like if I say this, I'm really 544 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: going to be out, yeah, you know, and out with 545 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: the women and out of the show and out period 546 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: or many out, you know, whatever your definition about is. 547 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: And I think that that's what for me, that's how 548 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: I take it. 549 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: And without her bestie coming to her side, Jen saying no, 550 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I was there too, and that did happen. 551 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: But also, when is Katie going to turn on Jen 552 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: and say, hey, why aren't you helping me out here? Well? 553 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: I hope she do. Do you think she's going to 554 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: be at the reunion? 555 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: Who? No, Katie, Katie, I don't know. How does this 556 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: season end up? 557 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Bravo released a clip of Jen and Katie having a 558 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: one on one next week, so maybe we get more 559 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: to the bottom of this. 560 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: Well, they need to, I mean definitely for this storyline 561 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: to progress, Like those two women need to sit down 562 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: and talk about what the fuck is going on here. 563 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Jen has a good way of melting from the truth. 564 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: We'll see, Yeah, we'll see. 565 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: Then Katie failed her answer to the question of yes 566 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: to the question if Gretchen told her she was drugged 567 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: and went to the hospital. Katie did the worst of 568 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: everyone in the group. 569 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: Not surprising, by the way. No, No, not surprising at. 570 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: All, not surprising. Exactly what they planned and wanted to 571 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: happen happened, happened two things. Other women failed questions, and 572 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: the group just kept moving. Did you notice that? Yes, 573 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: and Gretchen passed everything. But we've already seen her lie 574 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: in the hospital, so that doesn't really invalidate the story. 575 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: No, there's something like, look, a polygraph is not perfect. 576 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: We see people pass that, shouldn't it happens? I mean, 577 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: make of it what you will. Yeah, the camera does 578 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: not lie here though. The camera and the cameras replaying things, 579 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: and we're. 580 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: Both remembering exactly what the camera showed us. 581 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, I don't know from an audience perspective, 582 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: how they feel about that. 583 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: Would you rather be friends with Katie or Gretchen? 584 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: Neither? 585 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: You have you have to pick? 586 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: No, I don't why because life isn't that way. 587 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: No, you don't. Life isn't that way. See, I don't 588 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: I think I. 589 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: Would like Katie. Listen, I'm sure. Look, I'm sure Katie 590 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: and Gretchen are lovely people inside this group and this 591 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: experience of real Housewives of Orange County that does not 592 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: make me want to be friends with them because this 593 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: is a different This is not real life, okay, and 594 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: we can all agree on that. And inside of this 595 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: group that would not be my choice of friends. 596 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: No, I mean inside of the I mean if we 597 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: had to pick from everyone, really, I mean definitely wouldn't 598 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: be them. But I think I don't know why I 599 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: have more of a problem with the Gretchen. 600 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: Have you given that some thought? No, seriously, I think it's. 601 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: Because there I know and my like, well, I don't. 602 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I can't speak in a 603 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: complete absolute But because Gretchen told this story to Katie, 604 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm giving Katie and out like essentially, they wouldn't have 605 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: gone out to eat if Gretchen wasn't in talks to 606 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: come on that show. 607 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: No, they wouldn't, but she shouldn't have done it anyway. Yeah, 608 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: you got to be smarter than that. He has to 609 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: be smarter than that. You can't get dragged into these things. 610 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: You realize, Katie, you got dragged into all this shit 611 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: and but then didn't play it well at all, and 612 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: then you played it terribly. 613 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: Then just come out. 614 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah I said, or I met with her, or yeah 615 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: I did, I did. This is what was said. 616 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: She gossiped to me, and then I gossiped to other people, 617 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: one of them being kik Monique, another than being whoever 618 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: this other journalist is. 619 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: That is still the word journalist just throw I know. 620 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: Then we're journalists. 621 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: Now, No we aren't. I'm just kidding, and I would 622 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: like to sincerely apologize to all of the true journalists. 623 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: I am not a journalist. I am bullshitting up here 624 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: on a podcast. 625 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are podcasters talking podcast talking podcasting in a 626 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: journalism bone in my body. Then as they're you know, 627 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: everybody's kind of finishing up. Katie still keeps swearing that 628 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: she didn't tell Kiki. She didn't Katie. Yeah, Katie tries 629 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: to get jin on her side, and Jen isn't helping Katie, 630 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: and it's shocked that Katie is still lying. Uh huh. 631 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: Then Katie says she is telling the wholehearted truth in 632 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: her confessional. 633 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: H just just stop. 634 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: Gina confronts Katie about trying to make her comments sound 635 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: racist to Kiki, and then Emily tells Katie to leave. 636 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: When Katie leaves, she says that might be the last 637 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: time anyone sees her with these women. 638 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I wouldn't want to be around a group 639 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: of women that I completely failed, uh to be honest 640 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: with about that. And it's just too many things, like 641 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, once twice. Okay, they're smaller, but there seems 642 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: to be a lot here. And I don't think it's 643 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 2: a pileon of Katie. I just think that the behavior 644 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: is consistently this way. 645 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: I think in order for the cast to move on, 646 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: they have to trust her. They have to trust her 647 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: they don't, or she has to come clean exactly. 648 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: And if you come clean, then you've got to correct 649 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: your behavior and be consistent at that. So if you're 650 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 2: going to come clean, you got to say yes, not 651 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: only did I lie about this, I am coming clean 652 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: and I'm going to be consistently truthful. 653 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm pissed at you, Jen for 654 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: pretending that you didn't hear it. And you know what, 655 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm pissed at you. 656 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: You know what. And she has the right to do that. 657 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, Gina, I'm pissed at you. 658 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna whisper about you behind your back to Jen. 659 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to say to your face that bothers me. 660 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: That hurt me when you said that. 661 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: But if you're not going if she's not going to 662 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: be able to do that, and she's got to stop 663 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: talking to her husband. Oh again, this is what I'm 664 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: telling you, stop doing that. Stop doing that. 665 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: But I feel like she feels like she doesn't have 666 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: anyone to talk to her. 667 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: But she's iced herself out, Like do you know what 668 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying, She's put herself in a position where nobody 669 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: wants to do this. Yeah, and that's a hard place. 670 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: To be because but if all she would have done 671 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: has been a little honest, I bet they would want 672 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: to do this. 673 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: Of course, because everybody makes mistakes in this group. Yeah, 674 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: in every housewives is messy behavior. And you can have 675 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: the best intentions, you can get twisted. Things that you 676 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: say are out of context. Whatever, you have a cocktail. 677 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: But when you work this hard to isolate everybody in 678 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 2: the group that I mean, that takes something. 679 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: So then what do you think is going to happen 680 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, Like when it comes. 681 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: To well, let's see, we're on episode eight, how many 682 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: do they have left? Like eight more? 683 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably eight more? 684 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: So well, I don't know. I mean, let's say you 685 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: tilk her out now. Not that they don't have plenty 686 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: to talk about, because they do, but I you know, 687 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like. 688 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: Do we think that Tamor's going to get a better 689 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: like the edit's going to switch for Tamra Now. 690 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't know that I would say edit, I think 691 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: that Tamra has to switch Tamera. You know, edit is. Yes, 692 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: there are things that get fucked up in editing. We've 693 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: all seen it, their biases and edits. There just are 694 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: and anybody that's been watching these shows for a long 695 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: time you can see it. For whichever show you're watching, 696 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: you can tell or the story that you know is 697 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: being told this year, you can feel it. But at 698 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: the end of the day, if the words come out 699 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: of your mouth. You're going to live and die by 700 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: those no matter who you are. 701 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I know. I just wonder because I mean, we spent 702 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: this entire episode pretty much talking about Katie. Now is 703 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: Katie gone? 704 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: What are you talking to talk about? What do you 705 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: talk about? Well, everybody has to go to work. 706 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody has to start showing up and doing. 707 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: What showing up and being honest, showing up and you know, 708 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: revealing things about I don't know about what they know, 709 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: their fears, their home lives, how they feel in this group. 710 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: What are the dynamics. I mean, you know, it's a 711 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: show about women and their friendships, and. 712 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: Right now it feels like a lot of ass kissing you. 713 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: Mean amongst them versus Katie. 714 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're all trying to well, they're. 715 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: They're united in their distrust of this one person in group, 716 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 2: so of course it's ass kissing, and then they're going 717 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: to turn on each other. 718 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, I guess that'll be our next episode, turning on 719 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: each other. 720 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: Turning on each other. 721 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see how all the world turns. 722 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: Yes, has the the OC turns? But I do like 723 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: the show. I like the show. I think it's it's interesting. Yeah, 724 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: it's nice to see you, Teddy, see you too. I 725 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: missed you. 726 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: We haven't even done like a full recap on us. 727 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: What like, what's going on with you? 728 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm good. I'm having a nice time. I'm 729 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: you know, I came home from the trip and took 730 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: a day or two. We all did it. It was 731 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: a long one. 732 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: And are you still talking to the guy? 733 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: I know? 734 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Airica, I know Erica. 735 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: It's really nice. I like it. 736 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: This is I just got I just got flush. 737 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: I know. I see that. 738 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: That's very kind of happy. 739 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: Thank you me too. It feels nice. Yeah, yeah, And 740 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 2: I feel calm and and good. And you know. 741 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: You have trust. Yeah. I can tell in your eyes. 742 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: I can tell when you're distrusting of a person or 743 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: situation or even talking about something. 744 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: And I'm really calm and a piece feels nice. 745 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: My gosh, I love that. 746 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: What about what what about you? 747 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm I've I've been going on. I've been on probably about. 748 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: Like eight dates with one person. 749 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 750 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: And he's the one that we not the young guy, 751 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: the one that was if you haven't met him, okay, 752 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: but have you talked to me about him? Yes? I 753 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: talk So it is that guy yes. 754 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: I've been about eight dates. 755 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: He's such a nice guy. That's like such a good guy. 756 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: And I don't. But also I physically, like for a while, 757 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: I was like so physically charged, like I was like, 758 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, I want to I want to do this, 759 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: I want to do that, you know, like I was 760 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: a wild woman. I think that was probably when I 761 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: was on the steroids. 762 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: And now I'm not. 763 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: So I'm just like chill, Like I'm like, okay, yeah, 764 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: let's go to dinner. 765 00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 766 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: Sure, you know, like he's funny, he's nice, he opens 767 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: car doors like, he's handsome, he has a nice job. 768 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: Like there's no there's no complaints. The only complaints there 769 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: are about how I physically feel well, like not about him, 770 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: but about myself. Sure, so I'm kind of going through 771 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: those things that I've got a lot of things kind 772 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: of coming up where I'm like, am I going to 773 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: be able to do this? Like I'm getting to that 774 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: point where I'm definitely better than I was, but I'm 775 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: not like one hundred percent. So like it was really 776 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: like my friend, one of my best friends, had about 777 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: Mitzville last week for her son our bar Mitzvah. 778 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: Sorry guys, A bar Mitzville last week for her. 779 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: Son, and it was at night, and normally, like I'm 780 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: in bed at eight o'clock, so this was my latest night. 781 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: I stayed out till eight twenty pm. Okay, but like 782 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: I had to have You don't have to be like chaperone. 783 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah you need yeah. 784 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm not there just to you. Yeah, I'm 785 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: not there just solo with the kids. 786 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 2: You need I need help. 787 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's hard to ask for help, especially you. 788 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to ask for help for anybody. But 789 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: you are so independent and so you know, so disciplined, 790 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: just like your workout, your schedule, and so I know 791 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: that's that's right. 792 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's hard for to ask for help. And 793 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: so I'm definitely in that stage where I'm like, I'm 794 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: sure I'm not the best person in the world to 795 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: have any sort of relationship with, but this guy's he's chill, 796 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: he's items to be understanding, very understanding, and I'm like 797 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: going through the phase of like I'm like Overhane. 798 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, it's I think, look, you've been through 799 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: so much and to do something like that, it's fine, 800 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: Like and then what do you guys have been what 801 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: kind of eight dates have you been doing? 802 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it dinner dates, lunch dinner, like we've 803 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: gone on a wallviees or something. Yeah, just all either 804 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: at either house, you know, just like we're just hanging 805 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: out getting to know each other. 806 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: I like that. I like that for you. Yeah, so 807 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: it's been good for you. 808 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: So you know, we both end on a little bit 809 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: of a happy note there. 810 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah. Yeah, nice and calm, Nice and calm, 811 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: calm diamonds, calm, smooth diamond I'm a calm. 812 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: Cubics or conia or what am I hold on? 813 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 2: What is the stuff? 814 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm a lab grown No, you're not. 815 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: Smooth diamonds. Smooth flawless diamonds. 816 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, thanks to guys for tuning in. 817 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for tuning in. Let's see you soon.