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Speaker 1: Yeah they're doing something all right, sold before you start. Yes,
Speaker 1: we've changed roles today. Okay, we've changed This is Shannon,
Speaker 1: the big headed world. You are Jesse, Oh you cannot
Speaker 1: stop talking. Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that. So
Speaker 1: we need voice of reasoning and everything comes from you today. Nah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. On one of these days
Speaker 1: we break down Cowboys offense. Forty nine is defense, and
Speaker 1: I know that we've been all over the place. I
Speaker 1: know that we've been all over the place all week,
Speaker 1: goes Kurt, he getting to play two people himself. I
Speaker 1: don't know that we've been all over the place this
Speaker 1: week about what this matchup looks like. Speaking of Michael Irvin,
Speaker 1: he's been on all his shows and if anybody's a
Speaker 1: bigger Homer than Unique, it's Mike. Yes, Michael players on
Speaker 1: the sideline during games. I mean, he's still right when
Speaker 1: when we're in media, we learned not to say we
Speaker 1: right right, and we can say we because we kind
Speaker 1: of we worked for the team. But Mike's on national
Speaker 1: TV and they're supposed to be some level of yea
Speaker 1: separation between Mike says we on national TV all day
Speaker 1: every day, it's it's we we we we we would
Speaker 1: come to the Cowboys. But this week, at all the
Speaker 1: weeks and we went up against Bill Belichick, We've gone
Speaker 1: up against I mean, you game some of the top
Speaker 1: coaches in the league, and Mike has been all all
Speaker 1: all on Dallas Cowboys. Do we Michael Irvin has come
Speaker 1: out and said that this was the one matchup that
Speaker 1: he was afraid of. Yeah, he sounds a little nervous there. Huh.
Speaker 1: He sounds a lot nervous. You need to get within
Speaker 1: their homer bullying. You need to hit your boy up,
Speaker 1: go down and sit down and have some lunch. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonnaver forget that. I can never get shirt with
Speaker 1: that bully. So as we break down, I want to
Speaker 1: do something. I want to do something kind of different
Speaker 1: as we break down Niners defense Cowboys offense. Okay, I
Speaker 1: kind of want to go position by position, and your
Speaker 1: answers will be is that a strength for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: or weakness for the Cowboys. So when you look at
Speaker 1: this matchup and our offense versus their defense, is how
Speaker 1: you're gonna take the correct It's okay, Oh yeah, I'm rolling.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Fred Warner the linebacker, verse Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: our quarterback. That's gonna be a chess match going back
Speaker 1: and forth all day. Is that a strength for us
Speaker 1: or weakness for us Fred warner Man, he's he's all pro, right,
Speaker 1: and he's uh, he's got like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: seven tackles. He's he's got like fit the sixty solos.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a tackling machine. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have to use your judgment and coverage. Is he
Speaker 1: a good cover lineback? I know they like him and
Speaker 1: he's a true all pro, But uh, is this such
Speaker 1: thing as a wash? It's gonna be one or the
Speaker 1: other with you. No, you gotta make a decision. We
Speaker 1: gotta make a decision. Okay, you get a rash sitting
Speaker 1: on the fence. I think I think Dak got it
Speaker 1: just especially in the passing game. Yeah, just a boy
Speaker 1: a little bit the running game game. Dak ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get away from it. If you put it. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you put Zeg against Warner then yeah that now. But
Speaker 1: you see, I'm thinking about polar That's why I asked
Speaker 1: you about the coverage game. He can't he swing with? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he is one of those type linebackers where play in
Speaker 1: the box. He can cover down the front, cover running
Speaker 1: backs out of Wow, you want to rethink it, Kurt, No,
Speaker 1: I still think daks. I still think that got a slight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he know where the ball. But I'm going is Warner
Speaker 1: the guy that Dak's got, he's gonna be the mic,
Speaker 1: but guy, he's always got to know where he is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the mike. Yeah, but I mean he has some situations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gotta know what Well, when you're talking about there's
Speaker 1: guys on the field, you get like both right, right
Speaker 1: of course, right, you gotta know where he's at, down
Speaker 1: to it when he comes to the line of scrimmins.
Speaker 1: I need to I d I need to know where
Speaker 1: he is, where where he's at, and then how we're
Speaker 1: gonna play off that. Yeah, he's gonna say fifty four
Speaker 1: four Yeah, what about you? You know, I would like
Speaker 1: to believe if you're gonna give me good Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna see what hold on? Hold on? What
Speaker 1: what do you think you're gonna get? Jesse, I don't
Speaker 1: we don't know. It has been as we we we
Speaker 1: ain't we no more, we ain't French, we ain't no
Speaker 1: I know that bringing his best game. How about you?
Speaker 1: Are you? We we? I'm hoping I'm hoping we we
Speaker 1: we win? He hoping, hoping I'm yeah, Wow, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go, which has kind of been an
Speaker 1: up and down position for us all year. Right right
Speaker 1: right tackle, Lyle Collins left Russian. I hate to say it.
Speaker 1: Bosa can run, defend, and rush the pass. Lyle have
Speaker 1: to play his two year ago self. He can't lean.
Speaker 1: If he lean, he is through because you ain't n
Speaker 1: be able to hold him, you know, La gotta well
Speaker 1: get you round the corner that the last minute kind
Speaker 1: of holding and then shove you. You're gonna break that back.
Speaker 1: You gotta be you gotta be technique time. Bosa is
Speaker 1: a two way player. You know. It just runs in
Speaker 1: his family, so you gotta be good. I have to
Speaker 1: get that to Boza. See I think over a sixty
Speaker 1: play game or whatever like that. Bosa is gonna get
Speaker 1: a couple. You know, he's gonna get his He's gonna
Speaker 1: get a win. It's wind girl. I think like, oh,
Speaker 1: we'll take care of business. Wine will win most of
Speaker 1: those matches. No, no no, you say he gonna get a couple, Yeah,
Speaker 1: couples a win. Is it gonna be the fourth when
Speaker 1: we've getting ready to score? Is it gonna be a
Speaker 1: whole win? See that's what scared does. The offensive lineman
Speaker 1: always played with that fear. Uh. I don't block this
Speaker 1: dude the whole game. And here we are in crunch time. Now,
Speaker 1: I gotta be technique sound. I gotta be thinking what
Speaker 1: can't what would the refs give me? What can I
Speaker 1: get away with? You get what I'm saying? Whoa? Some
Speaker 1: players make you do that? Man. I think I got
Speaker 1: the restroom out of these restrooms, Bowser got me we we.
Speaker 1: I still think overall, Lyon's played good. I think, yeah
Speaker 1: he has. He's got him better when he's not top heavy,
Speaker 1: when he's when he's technique sound, he's one of the
Speaker 1: meanest and toughest guys out there. But when his technique
Speaker 1: get a stray, does having does having Blake drawing back
Speaker 1: in the mix as a potential the how boys like
Speaker 1: to go sometimes that twelve personnel, right they not sometimes
Speaker 1: before he got hurt a lot, but well they go
Speaker 1: back to that twelve personnel where they got a two
Speaker 1: tight end set. And when they use guys like Blake,
Speaker 1: Jar want to help out with Lyo Collins, I think Tyrn,
Speaker 1: you know, because Nick nick Bolsa lines up on both sides,
Speaker 1: but if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm looking at it
Speaker 1: and saying, I like my matchup against Lyle Collins and
Speaker 1: Nick Bolsa, then I do want to run Nick Bolsa
Speaker 1: into a future Hall of Famer and Tyrn Smith. Well,
Speaker 1: kell Him Moore use those tight ends more often now
Speaker 1: he's trying to block. He has to. He has to
Speaker 1: because from what I've understood, and I really didn't notice
Speaker 1: it at the time, I've forgotten this from off the
Speaker 1: one or five, and I've gotten this from Hellman, Dave Hellman.
Speaker 1: He brought that to my attention. Kell Him is a
Speaker 1: better play caller when he's gone with him two tight ends.
Speaker 1: He's seen the heat, seen the things seem to work better.
Speaker 1: See every things seem to look a little better. So
Speaker 1: uh yes, anything that gives Kellum advantage gives him the
Speaker 1: confidence to run it. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: would agree with that. I think, yeah, I like to
Speaker 1: see that because both those guys, especially especially Short, I
Speaker 1: mean he got eight hundred yards catching, you know, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be good there in the passing game. And I
Speaker 1: think if you put both those guys in there, they
Speaker 1: offer dual weapon or whatever. Block. You know, they're not
Speaker 1: great blockers, but they can get in the way and
Speaker 1: they can help you. Guys like Collins and and they're
Speaker 1: strong in the passing game. They're very strong, quick, quick sidebar.
Speaker 1: When you look at what the nine is, we know
Speaker 1: the nine is one to run the football. We know
Speaker 1: that for a fact and almost to a point of stubbornness.
Speaker 1: But it's worked out for them. Sure in the long
Speaker 1: run off season. Long are the Cowboys going to commit
Speaker 1: themselves to running the football in a stubborn matter so
Speaker 1: that they because when you have a defense that's like
Speaker 1: the Niners, who want who wants to get up the
Speaker 1: feelings after the quarterback. You got to wear those pass
Speaker 1: rushers down. You gotta wear guys like Nick Bolsta down
Speaker 1: and Eric armstrong guy, you gotta wear those guys down,
Speaker 1: Frank one and those guys down. Well, the Cowboys what
Speaker 1: what what approach offensively? Do you think Kelly Moore and
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy are thinking about heading into this game or
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to hear. You know they
Speaker 1: always say we want to be balanced, and what is balanced? Right?
Speaker 1: You can say balance is twenty five twenty five or
Speaker 1: balances we want to do one thing enough so that
Speaker 1: we're able to do the other thing, or vice versa.
Speaker 1: Are the Cowboys gonna lean more on the seventy five
Speaker 1: million dollar arm of Dak Prescott, Or they're gonna say,
Speaker 1: let's line up to tighten set, Let's give Zeke the ball,
Speaker 1: Let's get Tony Paul the ball. Are they gonna try
Speaker 1: to establish that run ahead you first? Well, yes, they better.
Speaker 1: I think they need to. I think they've given it
Speaker 1: up on the run too many times this season. I
Speaker 1: mean against Arizona what they're in at twelve times, fifteen times,
Speaker 1: you know, something like that against Tampa Bay they earlier
Speaker 1: in the season, they gave up on the run early.
Speaker 1: They don't want to make themselves one dimensional right out
Speaker 1: of the gate, even if they're down. You know, you
Speaker 1: saw it last week, Sam Prcico is down seventeen points
Speaker 1: and they're still running the ball. Even if you're down
Speaker 1: to score, you gotta keep running the ball because it
Speaker 1: pays off down the d in the fourth quarter. You
Speaker 1: want to, like you said, have said many times before,
Speaker 1: body blowers. You gotta you gotta bang on these guys.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be physical with you. You gotta be physical
Speaker 1: with them. The thing is and what you what you
Speaker 1: have to do. It ain't so much. You gotta hand
Speaker 1: it off. You got Tony Polo. You can throw the
Speaker 1: ball to him out of the back for We see
Speaker 1: Tom Brady do this with that big cat came Jacksonville
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, just throw it out there, man
Speaker 1: and make and make this guy Fred Warner do his job.
Speaker 1: Make him make perfect tackles for no gain or loss.
Speaker 1: But don't just succeed anything. You don't have to just
Speaker 1: bang it up in there. I mean the Eric guy,
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's a tough defender, you know,
Speaker 1: but hey, throw that ball out there, man, in them
Speaker 1: flats man, make isolate Tony on somebody and maybe even
Speaker 1: Zeke every night they just throw it to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you want to keep running it, but you
Speaker 1: don't want to keep running between the tackles and get
Speaker 1: them just rushed. Yeah you know the RPO is the
Speaker 1: pitchouts to Paula get on the edge, cdee Lamb, getting
Speaker 1: him involved. I mean, you gotta get created with the run.
Speaker 1: You can't give up the run game. You gotta get
Speaker 1: created with they. They are a team and you've always
Speaker 1: heard me says two things will travel run game and defense.
Speaker 1: And what they've done, it's thirty two minutes time possession,
Speaker 1: that thirty one I think it's thirty one points something.
Speaker 1: But that when you know that your defense isn't gonna
Speaker 1: gonna play twenty nine minutes a game, your rotation stayed strong,
Speaker 1: everybody is fresh, and you can go. That's what they
Speaker 1: have done, and that's what got them their ten wins.
Speaker 1: That is what made them look so good other day.
Speaker 1: It's because they refuse to stop running and they that
Speaker 1: that time possession. Now, time possession will always mean that
Speaker 1: you have to be a plus, but it does mean
Speaker 1: that it gives you a chance. All right, what do
Speaker 1: you think now? You know he's he's shouting it up.
Speaker 1: We got to hear that the gospel. Yeah, I'm shutting today.
Speaker 1: That hosp back tomorrow, right, but let's head into our
Speaker 1: first break. When we come back from that break, we'll
Speaker 1: finish up the strength and weakness here with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense in the forty nine is defense. So come on
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Speaker 1: the energy. As a former player, I can tell you
Speaker 1: we feed off that crowd energy. It's like when you
Speaker 1: see the wrestler being down and it's like the ref
Speaker 1: hold the hands up and then drop the hand down.
Speaker 1: The crowd gets on the ref holding hand up and
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Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, we feel that and we need it
Speaker 1: for that when we're down. When when it when it
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Speaker 1: shoot that, guys, try to Yeah, all right, let's get
Speaker 1: through this. So getting back getting back to it right now,
Speaker 1: Let's let's look at that one place that we've kind
Speaker 1: of have a little bit of struggle right that that
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say more so of the left interior
Speaker 1: and that's Talabadist to Connor Williams side. We ain't worried
Speaker 1: about it. We ain't worried about the president, We ain't
Speaker 1: worried about the butcher and Zach Martin. But looking at
Speaker 1: that inside rush. If you watch a little bit of
Speaker 1: that game last week against UM the Rams, they got
Speaker 1: major push in the middle of that offensive line. The
Speaker 1: nine has got major push in the middle of that
Speaker 1: officsive line. And it starts with Eric Armstead. Yes, I
Speaker 1: mean getting that hush and we've most of our penalties
Speaker 1: that we've had this year are holding penalties. Are all
Speaker 1: sides have come from that interior center to left guard.
Speaker 1: We bounced around that all season long. Where is the strength?
Speaker 1: Where is the weakness? Are you talking about Eric Armstrong
Speaker 1: and company on a deefersitive side or well, Connor Williamson
Speaker 1: slashed Holler Bell to show up and really have a
Speaker 1: good game and be a strength for us on that
Speaker 1: interior left side. Armstead will push you back. He ain't
Speaker 1: a big old guy, but he's long and he plays
Speaker 1: with them long and he will push you into that backfield.
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've watched the Living of film. And then, uh,
Speaker 1: they have another guy, Kevin Gibbons, number ninety who's pretty
Speaker 1: tough man. I haven't seen DJ Jones flash a lot,
Speaker 1: but I ain't watched one game. So that's number ninety three.
Speaker 1: D Yeah, they they only give up four yards per
Speaker 1: rush in today's NFL. That's good. When you just give
Speaker 1: up them four yards, that mean I'll let you have
Speaker 1: a lot of three point this and three point that
Speaker 1: to keep it right at that four. You may have
Speaker 1: a couple of good runs in the game to keep
Speaker 1: it at that four. But that that that's about the
Speaker 1: going rate right there. But they ranked in the top
Speaker 1: ten on defense, ranked in top ten, Yeah, so for sure,
Speaker 1: I don't know how like I agree that I think
Speaker 1: there that's the strength their interior is gonna We're gonna
Speaker 1: have a hard time dealing with those guys. But we know,
Speaker 1: like we can get the tight ends to help out
Speaker 1: le Collins and the and you guys, how do you
Speaker 1: help out the guys in the middle. You you just
Speaker 1: you you quick traps. A lot of teams don't like
Speaker 1: to do that because it do pop free, they will
Speaker 1: go back, you know what I'm saying. But quick traps.
Speaker 1: Do we have the guys to do that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Connin is good at getting out, you know. And even
Speaker 1: if you don't want to do the quick traps, then
Speaker 1: let my man come down Tyrone blocked down on Armstead.
Speaker 1: Let the tight end come down on his man and
Speaker 1: let them get outside, you know, let them get outside
Speaker 1: on the madges. But you do have to punch in
Speaker 1: there just a little bit. Draws. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this team is a good draw team, but when you
Speaker 1: got somebody like Zeke who who doesn't seem like we're
Speaker 1: run many draws. Tony Pollock would be perfect for a draw.
Speaker 1: Even Clemens would be be perfect for a draw, you know,
Speaker 1: a drawl. I'm serious, and I'm just thinking about winning.
Speaker 1: We I think we were like one or two. I
Speaker 1: think the scoring touchdown that we ran last week might
Speaker 1: have been draw type, like a kind of draw slash
Speaker 1: rpo type thing, you know, because when you got guys
Speaker 1: that can get up the field in which they're gonna
Speaker 1: try to do special armstead, they're gonna try to get
Speaker 1: up the field and make something happen. So you know,
Speaker 1: use that against them. But I'm not just right here.
Speaker 1: It's way used to run the ball. And when I played,
Speaker 1: we used to laugh because the Bions that they got
Speaker 1: every run known to man, and they would try it
Speaker 1: at any time, any game. And this is who the
Speaker 1: modern day Giants, the modern day Gladiators is this team
Speaker 1: right here. They got every run known to man, and
Speaker 1: that's what we got to develop. Get some of them
Speaker 1: plays that you've seeing them run Unlet's see can we
Speaker 1: duplicate those. I don't know, man, I think you can't
Speaker 1: be scared. You gotta throw the ball. You gotta throw
Speaker 1: the ball out of the There's a few areas in
Speaker 1: this game that when you talk about matchups that I
Speaker 1: want to watch, this is one of them. This is
Speaker 1: that that that interior offensive line for us. And they've
Speaker 1: had their moments this year. They've had their moments where
Speaker 1: they've been really good. And they've had their moments this
Speaker 1: year when we've been kind of you know, holding penalties,
Speaker 1: false starts, getting pushed in the backfield. We've had those moments,
Speaker 1: but we've had some moments where they've been really really
Speaker 1: good upfront. And I think when it's it's all set
Speaker 1: and done, if if if we're if I'm looking at
Speaker 1: just three things right outside of your normal told turn
Speaker 1: the ball over. If I'm thinking at three matchups when
Speaker 1: it's all set and done, the win loss, I think
Speaker 1: that's going to be one of my matchups that I'm
Speaker 1: looking at is can we be effective in the interior.
Speaker 1: And the reason why for me is one, that's where
Speaker 1: you get your quarterback off his spot that way right,
Speaker 1: you blow up runs that way, um you send when
Speaker 1: when you're getting when you're able to get a push
Speaker 1: or what we call recreate the line of scrimmage. If
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage is at the five yard line,
Speaker 1: right and at the snap of the ball, they get
Speaker 1: enough push where now they're they're they're setting up at
Speaker 1: the four yard line. Now I've eliminated a yard of
Speaker 1: space for you to gain. So even if you technically
Speaker 1: gain a yard, you really just got back to the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So that's where that area starts there.
Speaker 1: And then for Dak who has struggled a little bit
Speaker 1: this season, especially these last couple of games. And I
Speaker 1: know that he had the big game against Philadelphia, but
Speaker 1: we saw what happened against you know, Arizona, and I
Speaker 1: guess we can scratch whatever happened against Washington. But he
Speaker 1: struggled some with patience with reading the ball downfield. And
Speaker 1: anytime you're able to get pressure up the middle in
Speaker 1: the quarterback's face because he's already worried about what's coming
Speaker 1: from the outside, that's already something that's playing in the
Speaker 1: back of his mind of Okay, where's Nick Bosa. I
Speaker 1: want to know when Nick Bosa is at. Not because
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of him, but he's He's worthy enough for
Speaker 1: my attention. And now if I'm getting I'm getting pushed
Speaker 1: from the front, and I got creeping Nick Bosa in
Speaker 1: the back of my mind. Maybe I'm not on the
Speaker 1: reads as long as I should be. And I think
Speaker 1: that's been some of his problem this year, is he's
Speaker 1: been getting off reads way too quick, doesn't now a
Speaker 1: read to develop, or misjudging what the coverage was and
Speaker 1: where the red should have actually went, so this is
Speaker 1: this is one of those things that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: as far as a key matchup. Is that interior that
Speaker 1: left interior that beyondish to Connor Williams Eric Armstead matchup
Speaker 1: that's gonna be able to dictate some some line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage movement. All right, this is where I know people
Speaker 1: canna say you receiver, you're diva da da. I think
Speaker 1: this is where the Cowboys have an advantage. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump the gun. I think this is where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have an advantage at the pass catchers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'll add in Jarwin, I'll audn Blake, Jarwin and
Speaker 1: Schultz into this um the Cowboys with Yes, we lost
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop, but Cedric Wilson has stepped up tremendously and
Speaker 1: has been more than a serviceable backup. Like you know
Speaker 1: by number. You call him the number four, I call
Speaker 1: him three three B. Yeah, Like he has been that
Speaker 1: productive and that good when called upon. There's a mail
Speaker 1: bag question on the site. I think Hellman answered in
Speaker 1: some ways, it seems like the offenses float even a
Speaker 1: little smoother with with Wilson, And we talked about that
Speaker 1: a lot even during the season. Well, you know i'ven
Speaker 1: talked about that on my on my pregame show with
Speaker 1: my coach Will Steell is when you get Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: was almost he's almost the old school type of X, right.
Speaker 1: It used to be just to xs you outside you
Speaker 1: on a line of scrimmage. That's it, that's all. But
Speaker 1: when you add said Wilson into the mix, because I
Speaker 1: truly believe that, I just I believe. I believe Ceede
Speaker 1: Lamb is playing out of position. I do. I think
Speaker 1: he's playing slot by default. I think he doesn't quite
Speaker 1: understand how to run slot routes just yet. And there's
Speaker 1: and and there's we don't. I mean, there's not enough
Speaker 1: time to fully explain it to you. But when you
Speaker 1: watch Cole Beasley, West Welker, Um Rnfro, Cooper Cup, when
Speaker 1: you watch those true slot guys run routes, it is
Speaker 1: a science to it. You have to understand. You have
Speaker 1: to understand where I'm at in the route progression, the patience,
Speaker 1: I have to have the nearest defender, the furthest defender,
Speaker 1: speed up, slowdown. And I think he's not playing out
Speaker 1: of position by lack of ability. He's playing out of
Speaker 1: position by lack of knowledge of how to play the
Speaker 1: true slot position. When you add said Wilson to the mix,
Speaker 1: you kind of slot him inside, and he's been able
Speaker 1: to have a lot better feel for the slot routes.
Speaker 1: And when you put him Marvin Coop, when you put
Speaker 1: Seedee Lamb back outside, this thing's in the flow, excuse me,
Speaker 1: a lot better because he's running it in a way
Speaker 1: that it's supposed to be ran. And now it's allowing
Speaker 1: other things to open up because the timing is route
Speaker 1: in the slot. So Cowboys receivers, pass catchers strength or
Speaker 1: weakness against the Niners secondary. And we're talking about Josh Norman,
Speaker 1: Kawan Williams free safety Jimmy Ward. And so how do
Speaker 1: you pronounced his name? Tark? Yeah, Tark. We know we'll
Speaker 1: mess the names up here. Let me let me look
Speaker 1: at the pronunciation here. Jakwaski Jakosky's tark Nate. What's that? Friend?
Speaker 1: The question I just ask you things. I'm not going
Speaker 1: against my answer. Okay, that's your answer, man, Okay, you
Speaker 1: can disagree with you can disagree with it. You disagree,
Speaker 1: he desgree. I think that's a definite advantage but it
Speaker 1: goes back to are they gonna get Amari involved? You know,
Speaker 1: are they gonna get him? Because it seems like when
Speaker 1: Mary's involved, everything else opens up, like we talked about before,
Speaker 1: and so are they going to make it a point
Speaker 1: to to get him? Feed him the ball? If they don't,
Speaker 1: then we're doing the forty nine ers a favor. We're,
Speaker 1: you know, defending him ourselves in a way. So they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do that. They're gonna they're gonna know they
Speaker 1: who they they just judge? Please, wow, they you know
Speaker 1: what we are not. I would like to think that
Speaker 1: we are not as smart as those guys over there. Well,
Speaker 1: I would just like to think that. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: think that. All right, we're gonna head to our last break,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna do a little teaser coaching. Do we
Speaker 1: have a coaching advantage offensively? M Do we have a
Speaker 1: coaching advantage offensively? We'll talk more about that on the
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Speaker 1: we're gonna end this one. We got about we got
Speaker 1: about about seven minutes yet seven. I'm doing good on time,
Speaker 1: and right, Chris good, Yeah, we're doing good on That's
Speaker 1: That's the one thing when you get into this host chair,
Speaker 1: especially someone like me who is a talker, you gotta
Speaker 1: watch the clap. You got no So when it all
Speaker 1: comes down to it, and we've had this conversation when
Speaker 1: we were doing our stats, and not our stats, but
Speaker 1: our win loss record at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: And I always say a coach should give you a
Speaker 1: win or two throughout the year. Don't know where it's
Speaker 1: gonna come from, don't know when it's gonna come, but
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those games when you
Speaker 1: look at the Sean mcvains of the world, the young,
Speaker 1: upstart coaches. Kyle Shanahan is in that conversation and we
Speaker 1: know what he likes to do. He likes to be multiple,
Speaker 1: he likes to be versatile. He likes to kind of
Speaker 1: give you a lot of different looks. But when you
Speaker 1: look at their office coordinator, Damiko Ryan's former player played
Speaker 1: linebacker in this league for a long time, and Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: when they when they put their minds together defensively against
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore, do you think we have
Speaker 1: an advantage or disadvantage in the coaching line this week
Speaker 1: in the game. When you lay your head down on
Speaker 1: the pillow at night, do you say to yourself, man, I,
Speaker 1: Kellen got this. Mike and Kelly man they go, they
Speaker 1: got this. They They're gonna have a game. Planet's gonna
Speaker 1: had these boys scratching their heads. They're gonna be looking
Speaker 1: all all kinds of ways because offensively, the Cowboys coming
Speaker 1: out and they do an X Y Z or do
Speaker 1: you say, boy boy, Kurt, I'm gonna start with you,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a coaching advantage or is it a
Speaker 1: coaching deficiency going up against Demko Ryan? And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say they do not not a huge one by any means.
Speaker 1: You're gonna sound coffee, they said, But I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: they do. I think McCarthy, you know, hopefully he has
Speaker 1: some influence, you know, on the play calling. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Kellen has shown in the past to be creative.
Speaker 1: He's they've produced good games against you know, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: decent teams that they've when they've done what we've wanted,
Speaker 1: They've been creative that you know, they've gotten the ball
Speaker 1: on themar's hand, they've done all these things. And that's
Speaker 1: so I guess I'm hoping that we see more of
Speaker 1: that now. I don't know a lot about Damika, Ryan's
Speaker 1: and Channahan's more. Is he a defensive guy or is
Speaker 1: he more of an Yeah, definitely offensive guy. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm leaning towards my god Kellen. There,
Speaker 1: I'm Kellen. We trust, Kelly, you trust. Oh, so you're
Speaker 1: not You're not a we we guy. I'm banking this
Speaker 1: on your boy is solet on freaking Mike. You've been there,
Speaker 1: you've done that, You've won, you've lost, you've been successful,
Speaker 1: You've had some heartaches. I'm depending on Mike McCarthy to
Speaker 1: control and help set temple with this game versus uh
Speaker 1: Shanahan and coach Ryan that some things you have to learn,
Speaker 1: and Kellum ain't been there yet. He ain't been there yet.
Speaker 1: These other two guys have and one of them as
Speaker 1: a winner. So I'm mind, based solely on the head coach,
Speaker 1: how much of difference does that make them? Not like
Speaker 1: Kellen not having a playoff experience. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: you fall on what you know, and and and and
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got the two tight ends back because
Speaker 1: he had something better play calling better games with that situation.
Speaker 1: But we all know when Kellum get panicky, impty backfield
Speaker 1: and let's throw it all over the world. That ain't
Speaker 1: you know? Don't follow on what you know, fall into
Speaker 1: your head. Coach, Hey, coach what we need? Hey give
Speaker 1: me some help here. So it is that the conversation
Speaker 1: is Kelly Moore kind of in the meeting looking at
Speaker 1: coach mccarthur. He's probably calling his own thing because Jared
Speaker 1: I told him you are a mad scientist and got
Speaker 1: you know, mister Jones, that is what do you think?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. He asks you a question.
Speaker 1: I'm the host. Now you want to switch up again,
Speaker 1: I'm the host. I get the question. I'm gonna drop
Speaker 1: the gun the receivers. You're better not to be going
Speaker 1: against me. No, I just want to put that out there,
Speaker 1: all right. With Kelly Moore lacking the true experience in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, looking from where he comes from, this a
Speaker 1: little more. Pick up the telephone and call Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: or Scott Linehan because these these are his mentors. This
Speaker 1: is the tree that he comes in. See you was
Speaker 1: doing a super fabinous job. We don't want them, dudes,
Speaker 1: We don't. I don't even want them dudes opinions. That's me.
Speaker 1: I don't want their opinion. Yeah, I hope if he's
Speaker 1: calling anybody, McCarthy, you know, I either call your coach
Speaker 1: back at boys, creative work with the people that are
Speaker 1: in the room, or yeah we get them guys. Man,
Speaker 1: you go with what what you danced with? He danced
Speaker 1: with coach McCarthy them all year, danced with them. Call
Speaker 1: the quarterback coach, Hey man, what is Dak really thinking? Cold?
Speaker 1: Call a quarterback coach? How much would you consult Dak
Speaker 1: on game plan or Dak in it? He in the
Speaker 1: thick of you know, I think that's a great question, Kurt,
Speaker 1: because one of the things that we've heard all year
Speaker 1: long is the communication has been off. And now I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's communication from coordinators to quarterbacks or
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to skill guys, skilled player to scale player. So
Speaker 1: you know, for me, that should be in the conversation. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to know what do
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable with when you I want to know
Speaker 1: that when you sit down and you watch this, what
Speaker 1: do you feel comfortable with? What? What? What plays you?
Speaker 1: What plays pop the your mind when you when you're
Speaker 1: sitting there watching these formations, what plays pop your mind?
Speaker 1: You know what what five or six or ten plays
Speaker 1: popped your mind and you go, man, I think that
Speaker 1: want to hit I think, you know, hey we need
Speaker 1: to keep that, we need to go outside, or hey
Speaker 1: you know remember that play that we ran in week
Speaker 1: three that involved nineteen and not devote Samuel nineteen. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think I think I think that definitely
Speaker 1: needs to be in that conversation. If he's not in
Speaker 1: that conversation at this point in time in his career,
Speaker 1: then there's something that's sorely missed in that relationship, because
Speaker 1: you would want your guy that you paid all that
Speaker 1: money to that is leading your franchise to be in
Speaker 1: the room. I'm I said, he yes, final say so,
Speaker 1: but he should have a big say so. They should
Speaker 1: be a big say so for a guy like Dak
Speaker 1: in the conversation head into these playoffs offensive about what
Speaker 1: we want to do. Does any other offensive player get
Speaker 1: asked or talked to or consulted or of the nineteen Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean would you asking, were you asking Mark? Would
Speaker 1: you ask even would you ask Jack Martin? You know,
Speaker 1: we think we can do this against this line. That
Speaker 1: sort of thing I think that comes from position coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they and then they kind of come back to their
Speaker 1: you know, their meeting and go, hey, like I talked
Speaker 1: to the guys and they said that they really feel
Speaker 1: good about you know, running wham or running you know.
Speaker 1: You know the difference is, Kurt Jesse, is they know
Speaker 1: what we do well this obviously line coach should be
Speaker 1: able to tell coach without even coming to us, say
Speaker 1: this is what my guys do. Well, what can you
Speaker 1: build off of this? And so we ain't gonna never
Speaker 1: get asked. It's gonna be like, we know what you
Speaker 1: do well, this is the game plan, learn it, get it,
Speaker 1: and execute it. That's how that's how we take it. Now.
Speaker 1: You may want to ask Mark, do you like the
Speaker 1: first one to night that comes into your wheelhouse? How
Speaker 1: do y'all do it as receivers? I think we we
Speaker 1: we go through more to our coach, and it's always
Speaker 1: the condition with the coach saying you know, and then
Speaker 1: if your quarterback, you have that relationship. I talked to
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'm like, I'm like, yo, Dak, listen, bro, like,
Speaker 1: we gotta get I've been watching film Man shoot well
Speaker 1: third downs, Bro, we gotta get these slants run, or
Speaker 1: we gotta get these these digs run, or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. And I'm kind of putting a little bit
Speaker 1: in his ear so that you know, I'm always trying
Speaker 1: to find people who I know can carry the message
Speaker 1: yes to the to the pop piper I need. I
Speaker 1: needed to get back to that. So, whether it be
Speaker 1: my receiver, coach or the quarterback, I'm always like, or
Speaker 1: if we're on the practice field, i make a lot
Speaker 1: of noise of this it right here, the route right here,
Speaker 1: so that they're listening to what I'm saying that about
Speaker 1: this is what we should be doing against, you know,
Speaker 1: certain coverage and certain players yeah, so you need to
Speaker 1: be out there talking for Mari right now. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: translate tomorrow. We do translations tomorrow for you to translate
Speaker 1: to day. On that field, Mari lacked it out. He's
Speaker 1: like Yale, like that's a good rode right there by
Speaker 1: bar Yeah, travel allows a good route. You know how
Speaker 1: fast they'll snatch me up off that field. They like,
Speaker 1: who is this dude? Get get him out of him? Man,
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