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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, single best idea and

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Speaker 1: what's so interesting about the guests, from guests to guests

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Speaker 1: to guests is to pay attention to their lineage, their background,

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Speaker 1: how they became notorious or famous or both. Today is

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Speaker 1: a tour de force. It is two moments with James Glassman.

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Speaker 1: First of all, there's two James Glassman. It's wicked confusing.

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Speaker 1: There's James Glassman, wonderful academic on Dow thirty six thousand

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Speaker 1: and the uproar years ago with a wonderful book. This

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Speaker 1: is a different Jim Blassman. This is Jim Glassman, who

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Speaker 1: was legendary at JP Morgan. Like a lot of retired economists,

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Speaker 1: he's like pseudo fake retired. He delivered a forty nine

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Speaker 1: page power point for his retired interview. But Jim Glassman

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Speaker 1: today and the first idea here is really important. Doctor

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Speaker 1: Glassman came out of Northwestern in the Crucible the Combine

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Speaker 1: of freshwater economics with Robert Gordon. He's always at a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge respect for what we can't see in the labor market.

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Speaker 1: Here is Jim Glassman on your twenty twenty six, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and thirty Technology you would.

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Speaker 2: Think that if labor markets are so tight and you

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Speaker 2: got people retiring, and you would think the wind would

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Speaker 2: be at the back of the labor sector. But in fact,

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Speaker 2: the share of income going to them has come down

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Speaker 2: from before the pandemic and really has been coming down

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Speaker 2: for the last twenty five years. And I think that

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Speaker 2: tells you something really important about the dynamic that's playing out.

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Speaker 2: It's all about technology and the changes in the US economy,

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Speaker 2: and it exposes a real weakness in the thought process

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Speaker 2: in the economics community about the role of labor. We

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Speaker 2: sort of came out of school with this idea that

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Speaker 2: if labor markets are tight, that can be inflationary. But

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Speaker 2: when you see what's going on and you think about

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Speaker 2: all the changes going on in the economy, how competitive

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Speaker 2: it's become, what's going on with technology, it's becoming more

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Speaker 2: clear to me that we got this story backwards. It's

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Speaker 2: really wages don't drive prices. It's more that prices are

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Speaker 2: driving wages. And that picture tells you that if you're

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Speaker 2: worried about tight labor markets, tight labor markets are not

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Speaker 2: inflationary if the share of the pie going to workers

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Speaker 2: is not really down.

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Speaker 1: Textbook Jim Glessman can't say enough about that in the

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Speaker 1: opposite there if you will, the price theory or the

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Speaker 1: microeconomics the dynamics of labor. Is it rising wages affect

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Speaker 1: prices or is it rising prices affect wages. It's just

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Speaker 1: some food for thought. You can pick up any labor

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Speaker 1: economics textbook and your eyes will glaze over by page

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Speaker 1: twenty five over the ambiguities in the dynamics of each

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Speaker 1: part of the of the labor economy. It speaks to

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Speaker 1: what Mike McKee does every day. Don't take for granted

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Speaker 1: the complexity that Mike McKee has to deal with in

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Speaker 1: driving all of our labor force coverage. Here now is

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Speaker 1: short and sweet. Jim Glassman on the Fed.

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Speaker 2: None of us really know where the neutral rate of

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Speaker 2: the Fed funds rate is. My guess is it's around

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Speaker 2: the terminal rates, around three percent. If you ask both

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Speaker 2: Fed people, I'll bet most of them will tell you

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Speaker 2: that's where we should be in the long run. Now

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Speaker 2: that this inflation scare has really kind of disappeared, and

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Speaker 2: when you get the kind of data we're getting, it

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Speaker 2: tells you there's no big rush to get there. But

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Speaker 2: the really The debate about the FED is not about

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Speaker 2: today's economy or today's labor market. It's about where do

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Speaker 2: you think they should be in the long run if

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Speaker 2: they don't want to do trouble for the economy.

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Speaker 1: Jim Glassman formerly with JP Moore, just a tour to

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Speaker 1: force effort by him today on this odd labor economy.

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Speaker 1: And we make note the ginormous number with the revisions

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Speaker 1: that we saw on Friday, and now it's shifted here,

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Speaker 1: we'll shift into this week. The other part this week

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Speaker 1: will be earnings with JP Morgan on Friday. It'll be

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Speaker 1: good to hear Lisa Abramo. It's with James Diamond. I

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