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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're feeling like Bart Simpson

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Speaker 1: just writing we will not make fun of the Christmas

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Speaker 1: Day games. We will not make fun of the Christmas

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Speaker 1: Day games over and over on the chalkboard. We really

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Speaker 1: aren't gonna make fun of them. We're gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: why you can have some fun with these games. And

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Speaker 1: by we, I mean myself coming to you from the

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling podcast studio with my friend Ollie Connolly. Not

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Speaker 1: on a weekend this week because of the holiday, we

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Speaker 1: got Allie on a Tuesday to talk some Coach of

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Speaker 1: the Year rankings. Are you ready, Allie to separate your

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Speaker 1: favorite men in the entire NFL?

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Speaker 2: I know you're a coaching guy.

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Speaker 3: I am, and it's very, very difficult. Is this the

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Speaker 3: widest open race since you've covid the spool, because I

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Speaker 3: don't I remember year where it goes like eight nine deep?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: I think I actually didn't have that hard of a

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Speaker 1: time cutting off five. But once you got to five

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Speaker 1: and we're going to count down from five to one,

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Speaker 1: you can make such a strong case for any one

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Speaker 1: of those five. It's just a beauty pageant where it's very,

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Speaker 1: very subjective, So I would have no problem with anyone

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Speaker 1: voting for any of these five men. And we do

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Speaker 1: have two more weeks to go, so we're basing on

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Speaker 1: the information that we have here. We will also hit

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Speaker 1: some news we have the dk Metcalf suspension, and we

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Speaker 1: will touch on the Christmas games and talk about kind

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Speaker 1: of what we are looking for in those games after

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Speaker 1: the break.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's start with the Coach of the Year, Alie.

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Speaker 1: It really is wide open, and the last couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks could matter because we have a couple guys who

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Speaker 1: have a chance to win this award that are going

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Speaker 1: up against each other the last couple weeks. So putting

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Speaker 1: that out of the way, I asked you to go

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Speaker 1: five to one before we get into it. You said

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Speaker 1: you could go eight ten deep. Who are the honorable

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Speaker 1: mentioned guys that you could not even get into your

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Speaker 2: You just want to give a little shout out.

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Speaker 3: To, Yeah, I couldn't get Shane Steiken in there. I

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Speaker 3: think over the first half the season, that's as good

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Speaker 3: a job as anyone could have done by I don't

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Speaker 3: think you can do that based on what's happened down

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Speaker 3: the stretch for An, I didn't have Sean Payton in

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Speaker 3: my top five, and that one really hurt because I

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Speaker 3: think Sean Payton will be a worthy winner, and so

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Speaker 3: to me, it's the top six and Peyton will be

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's tricky because Sean Payton comes into the

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Speaker 1: and so the expectations are raised. But you got to

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Speaker 1: the second year in his program.

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Speaker 2: And I did give a.

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Speaker 1: Little extra credit to coaches who it's not necessarily all

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Speaker 1: just about this year. If the principles that they've set

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Speaker 1: I give a little extra credit, and Peyton should get

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Speaker 1: and it's happening. And so they're ten and five. But

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Speaker 1: he couldn't make it for me. Dave Canalis has his

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Speaker 1: big group this year that I defaulted to who are

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Speaker 1: of mention. And then Sean McVay. He's kind of in

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Speaker 1: the Andy Reid mold here where in Bill Belichick back

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Speaker 1: in the day that you could put Sean McVay on

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Speaker 3: Mcvay's. Mcvay's My frustration with the award in general, which

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Speaker 3: He's just everything you expect, which is he is the

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you can be the change you know, you

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Speaker 1: could be the change you want to see in the world.

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Speaker 1: I always say that on this show, like don't worry

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Speaker 1: taste maker now, Ali, I mean you obviously are on

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Speaker 1: the read optional. You have a lot of people in

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Speaker 1: the league reading your stuff on your substeck and listening.

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Speaker 1: But now we're bringing you to the people. Maybe some

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Speaker 1: AP voters are out there listening. You could be the change.

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Speaker 1: You could put McVeigh one and make the case last

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Speaker 1: let's get into our top five.

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Speaker 2: Though, well, what do you want to say about mcvagh.

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Speaker 2: Then you sounded like I'm jumping.

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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure that Chris Balad needs to read

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Speaker 3: the read option to know show mcvay'stball coach.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Okay.

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Speaker 1: What we're gonna do so that we really raised the drama.

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Speaker 1: This is, you know, big time pre holiday podcasting here

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Speaker 1: is that we're going to go five to one.

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Speaker 2: But we won't say where.

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Speaker 1: You know our other guy is if we have him

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Speaker 1: higher than the other and Ali, I'll have you start

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Speaker 3: My numb of five is Ben Johnson with the Bess.

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Speaker 3: This falls nicely into the turnaround. I agree, though I

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Speaker 3: don't think quite a star could turn around, as maybe

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Speaker 3: do think you have to say that everything he visioned

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Speaker 3: it's building out a staff really smartly saying I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: It has worked out, and Caleb Williams has developed. Now

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Speaker 1: I think the questions for Ben Johnson coming into the

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Speaker 1: But he does remind me a little bit of Sean

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Speaker 1: McVeigh in that it's gonna be a coach led organization.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, And I think with Johnson he was

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Speaker 3: He is in that Don Embel vision of raw, raw nonsense.

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Speaker 2: To me, and he just has an edge to him.

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Speaker 1: And I'll always remember, you know, Belichick, you know, in

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Speaker 1: his his book with Halberston said, you know, once I

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Speaker 1: It's crazy that, you know, he could be fifth on

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Speaker 1: was really missing being on this show because she loves

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Speaker 1: the fact that Robert Kraft was really insisting on that

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Speaker 1: give him a little bit of knock for two things,

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Speaker 1: at least when I'm separating everything out. He's in some

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Speaker 1: number one. He's won it before, which maybe that's not fair.

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Speaker 1: But I look at these other great coaches, some of

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Speaker 1: silly type of award. I do think you spreading it

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Speaker 1: we've seen in years, that they would have like a

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Speaker 1: ten and five record, that there may be more like

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it and if I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: a tiebreaker who has the best team who, I think

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Speaker 1: it's obviously subjective. The record would tell you the Patriots

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Speaker 1: This team is tricky and and Mike Rabil as an

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Speaker 3: Number four for me is Liam Cohen with the Jags.

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Speaker 1: You might have him first, I mean, he's your guy.

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Speaker 1: And I absolutely give credit to the hirings that the

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Speaker 3: with the Onest Jones trade in the middle of the year,

438
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Speaker 3: but Ernest Jones struggled with communication himself, So this year

439
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,879
Speaker 3: they'd be more aligned and being able to get just

440
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,919
Speaker 3: the broader menu of things. And the thing that McDonald does,

441
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,919
Speaker 3: I think better than most defensive minds. Is they do

442
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,679
Speaker 3: not run a lot of stuff. He's given like the

443
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,719
Speaker 3: genius tag because you know he's young and a lot

444
00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 3: of stuff, but they don't actually run a massive amount

445
00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 3: of different things defensively. They just always pick the right

446
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 3: stuff every week. You know, he'll hit on four or

447
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,479
Speaker 3: five key principles he wants for the week. They use

448
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,199
Speaker 3: it to the absolute max. It's the same style as

449
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,399
Speaker 3: you'll see with McVeigh on offense, where it's we'rening the

450
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920
Speaker 3: same stuff dressed up slightly differently. They bring an offensive

451
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 3: mindset to the defensive side of the ball, and then

452
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 3: he's just had a dominant four down rush. I mean

453
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Speaker 3: they have probably if you look at the old pro

454
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Speaker 3: teams the end of the season, the interior defensive line

455
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 3: two of that guys should probably be the second team

456
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,120
Speaker 3: interior defensive line players. So they just have a dominant

457
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,959
Speaker 3: down four to go and play with that you can

458
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Speaker 3: have the kind of fun and creativity on the back end.

459
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we've reached our top two picks, and I'm

460
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not shocked because for me, like I said,

461
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Speaker 1: the top five was relatively easy to get.

462
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Speaker 2: The five so we had the same five.

463
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Speaker 1: So by process of elimination, let's just give our top

464
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Speaker 1: two picks now, because to me it's down to McDonald

465
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Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan, and for you it's down to rabel

466
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Speaker 1: In Shanahan. So I'm gonna give you my top two picks.

467
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Speaker 1: Your number three is my number one. I am going

468
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Speaker 1: with Mike McDonald and it's a combination of everything. And

469
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Speaker 1: when I first wrote the list, he's fourth or fifth.

470
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Speaker 1: And the longer I thought about it, I was like,

471
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't Mike McDonald be the head coach to win

472
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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year this year? Because you talked about

473
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Speaker 1: sometimes it's the guy who did it versus expectations, and

474
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Speaker 1: I think that's worth considering. Well, the Seahawks over under

475
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 1: win total before the year, I think is as good

476
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Speaker 1: a way to talk about as anything. They were an

477
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Speaker 1: eight and a half win team before the year in Vegas.

478
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Speaker 1: That's actually the same as the Patriots, it's the same

479
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,719
Speaker 1: as the Bears. Depending on where you look. It's two

480
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Speaker 1: less than the forty nine ers, and they are the

481
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Speaker 1: best team in the NFL.

482
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Speaker 2: So that gets me somewhere.

483
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Speaker 1: If you win these last two games, especially then you

484
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Speaker 1: go to his side of the ball.

485
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Speaker 2: That doesn't matter to me a little bit.

486
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Speaker 1: Being that badass play caller building a side of the ball,

487
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 1: that's one thing I guess I've able, you know, just

488
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: lacks just a little bit. He had a vision for

489
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Speaker 1: this defense. They're number one in terms of DVOA efficiency

490
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: right now, like it's been a two year process. I

491
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 1: think they're very good in game management. I think he

492
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: did well with his hire, especially on special teams. They're

493
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 1: an outstanding team. It's just a full, complete team. And

494
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Speaker 1: when I just went through all the different boxes, he

495
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: checked the most of them, and I just thought, well,

496
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Speaker 1: you should give it to the best team. And it

497
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Speaker 1: might come down for me to that that Week eighteen game,

498
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan versus Mike McDonald, If that is for the

499
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Speaker 1: one seed, it's stupid, but it's probably for my Coach

500
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Speaker 1: of the Year too, because we can get into all

501
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: the reasons why Kyle Shanahan's having an incredible season. He

502
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: would be an absolutely worthy winner. But right now, as

503
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Speaker 1: it's stacked, I have it McDonald won Shanahan too.

504
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 3: Who do you have on top of your list? So

505
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: I have Mike vrabel to, I have Kyle shana on one. Okay,

506
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: I'll just say quickly on Mike McDonald, I think that

507
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: you're absolutely right that they will should be decided by

508
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: who wins the NFC West, and if that winds up

509
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 3: being McVeigh, just give it to McVeigh. If we talking

510
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 3: about strength of schedule, having to get through that conference,

511
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: through that division is the toughest thing you can possibly do.

512
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 3: And McDonald is a false multiplier defensively that you just

513
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: rarely see with a head coach. It's it's hard to

514
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 3: find a defensive minding coach who year of a year

515
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 3: can get the best out of some of the pods.

516
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: And I think he's obviously done that. And that was

517
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: the vision when they brought him in right to take

518
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: on shout out ata McVeigh in that division, was well,

519
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: we'll go get the defensive guy who can slow those

520
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: two offensive gurus down and if they go on to

521
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 3: win the division, they'll approven the theory.

522
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Speaker 1: Right, And let's be real when we're talking strength to schedule.

523
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan with mac Jones went to LA and won,

524
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Speaker 1: and it was early in the season, but he got

525
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Speaker 1: that win against Seattle. So when you think about like

526
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: the brilliance of their offense. Obviously it's a year to

527
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Speaker 1: year basis, and it's kind of like I was saying

528
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Speaker 1: with Andy Reid, and I don't mind giving McVeigh this

529
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: credit too, Like I will give the coach credit for

530
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: just always being awesome and building a structure where you

531
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Speaker 1: don't have to start it over from scratch each year.

532
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: If he goes and does win these final two games,

533
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Speaker 1: I mean he will be my pick. Who is your

534
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: pick between him and Vrabel?

535
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Speaker 2: Right now?

536
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: Shanna ann is won for me? Okay, I just if

537
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: the job is to be the coach of the year,

538
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 3: how is it not coaching to have all those different

539
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 3: injuries and just keep finding a way to churn thrown

540
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: wing games and including as you mentioned, big matchup Thursday

541
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: night football against the Rams. And this is where I

542
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 3: kind of am a hypocrite to myself because I was

543
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: down on them coming into the season and usually if

544
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: they're healthy, they make a championship game, or they get

545
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: decimated by injuries and they fall off. This year, he's

546
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: been decimated by injuries and still found a way to

547
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: keep the thing churning. And I just looked them to

548
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: open the ear I didn't think they were as talented

549
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 3: as people thought they were anymore. I thought the idea

550
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: that you could fix something as structurally flawed as their

551
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: run defense by just drafting players, thinking a draft class

552
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: could fix your run defense with just kind of fancyland

553
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: type stuff, and some of that has played out. But

554
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: to keep doing what he's doing on offense without the

555
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: lack of playmakers being down off and just it's Christie

556
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: McCaffrey and nothing else, and being able to just sustain

557
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 3: a level until you start getting some of the reinforcements

558
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: back and get a little bit healthy to close the season.

559
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 3: It's just I think as good as a coaching job

560
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: as anyone could do. It could have been very easy,

561
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: I think, to have a degree of burnout. He's been

562
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: there so long, the same message they brought Robert Sella back.

563
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: That felt very uninspired to me to go back to

564
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: Robert Sella, and it would have been easy, I think,

565
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: with all those injuries to have lost the building and

566
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: for this have gone off the rails frims just keep

567
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: it triggering along into being with a real shof having

568
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: the one seed is just preposterous.

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, because I know it's coach of the year,

570
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Speaker 1: But coaching is not a one year job. We can

571
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Speaker 1: be the change that we want to see ali and

572
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: choose the person that is giving yourself a schematic advantage

573
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: each and every week. Has identified the right players for

574
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Speaker 1: his system and that they're able to deal with the

575
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of losses that they've had this year on both

576
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Speaker 1: sides of the ball. I think that's great to point

577
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: out that the offense had a ton of injuries early

578
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: and if he somehow finds a way and look, I

579
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Speaker 1: think they're probably the underdogs in both these games against

580
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Speaker 1: the Bears and certainly the Seahawks, but if he can

581
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: somehow find a way to win those two games, it's undeniable.

582
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: Because it's Mac Jones stepping in. You get kind of

583
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: both cases. Sometimes it's a big coach of the Year

584
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: thing when you can win with the backup. So you

585
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: got to get the case with the backup and a

586
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: lot of backups on the offensive line at the skill

587
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: positions when Mac Jones was in there, and they found

588
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: a way to get it done offensively. But you're also

589
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: seeing okay with Brock Purdy and the skill position guy's healthy.

590
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: This is maybe the best offense in the league. It's

591
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: certainly in the top five, and then you give Shanahan

592
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Speaker 1: credit for that. I want you to give all the

593
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: great reasons why Mike Rabel is number two on your

594
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: list and knocking on the door maybe wins this award.

595
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Speaker 3: In the end, I just think you're understating what a

596
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: mess that entire building was in last season, and to

597
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 3: have even smiles on faces would have been an unbelievable job.

598
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 3: And he's not exactly a guy who comes into but

599
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: smiles on faces in the first place, So it's an

600
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: unbelievable turnaround to me. Obviously, unlocking Drake mayon whether it

601
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: was Robert Craft two hired him where I think Jonathan

602
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: Craft did Hi Josh McDaniels, but being able to acquiesce

603
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: that and kind of accept and submerge your ego to say, Okay,

604
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: that's best for the franchise, We'll do that. That pairing

605
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: working really well. And I know you mentioned defensively they've

606
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: not been that good. They did lose their DC for

607
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: the entire season, essentially, Terrell Williams going out with the

608
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: Canton diagnosis. He was back in the building last week

609
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: to help out and being willing to step and say, well,

610
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 3: but Zach kor in charge, who is a really young guy,

611
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: is only the col defense at the college level. To

612
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: be willing to let someone do that and take on

613
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: more responsibility in that direction himself as the head coach,

614
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: I think is pretty cool stuff. So to even stay

615
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 3: afloat when you've had that happen to the building with

616
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 3: a lack of just general talent they have on that

617
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: side the ball, and they've had a bunch of injuries

618
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 3: on that side of the ball too. Just staying afloat

619
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: enough to allow the offense to take over and close

620
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: out games, I think is pretty remarkable.

621
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Speaker 2: I think that's all dead on.

622
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Speaker 1: I'm almost hearing like Belichick's voice in my ears like wow,

623
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Speaker 1: you know points, points matter too, don't they? And it's like, yeah,

624
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: they are seventh in point it's allowed points is an

625
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: important statistic when it comes to defense. And yes, the

626
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: schedule helped him on that too. But they've been pretty

627
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: good in situational football. And that's the thing that you've

628
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: gotten with Rabel is you're getting the full suite. It's

629
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: not like it's not like a coach with like he's

630
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: got this strength, but some real shortcomings there. He can

631
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: do this like you get Mike Rabel, and he can

632
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: do it all in terms of leading the building, leading

633
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: the players, not just motivation, but understanding the right buttons

634
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: to press strategically because they are one of the best

635
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: teams in terms of game management, and uh, the staff

636
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: he's brought in and the staff he took over.

637
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: It's all fair.

638
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: I'm totally happy if if Rabel wins the award. It

639
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: was it's just very difficult to split these five up

640
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: like they're all it's a very strong year. I can't

641
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: remember a year like this where there's this many good

642
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: candidates now.

643
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: I think Vrabel also deserves credit for every single bet

644
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: he's made. You know, you called him the shadow Gem.

645
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: I think he's just the gem, just like whatever you said, Boss,

646
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: every single bet he made where he was sort of

647
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: mocked right for he's coming back and he's getting the

648
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: Tennessee band back. I was like, well, how great were

649
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: those Tennessee teams in the first place. This thing has

650
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: a chance to maybe go off the rails as he

651
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: still have the magic. Does he really make a significant

652
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: difference as a play caller on any side of the

653
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Speaker 3: ball If he's the overseer, how is this going to go?

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Speaker 4: Well?

655
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Speaker 3: He came in the institute of the Coltree, brought in

656
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Speaker 3: Bobby Splainey Bond and calevon Chase, only signed Milton Williams

657
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Speaker 3: to big money every single one of those bets he's made,

658
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Speaker 3: even trading away established veterans safeties to say, we're going

659
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Speaker 3: with the young guys, and the young guys will play

660
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Speaker 3: significantly better than the Vets who they've they've dealt away elsewhere,

661
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Speaker 3: So budding trust and faith in some of the young

662
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Speaker 3: plays and some of the play development has been impressive too.

663
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Speaker 2: In their favorite to go fourteen and three.

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Speaker 1: All they gotta do is beat the Jets, And I

665
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Speaker 1: think the Dolphins will be a little trickier in Week eighteen,

666
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Speaker 1: but they could be fourteen and three, and if they are,

667
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Speaker 1: that would be My guess is he would He would

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Speaker 1: win the award, barring Shanahan winning these two games, but

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Speaker 1: my vote is for Mike McDonald.

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Speaker 2: I would have no problem with him winning.

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Speaker 1: I personally don't give him the extra credit or at

672
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Speaker 1: least much for the signings, but I think it's totally

673
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Speaker 1: reasonable to do so, and to think about the personnel

674
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Speaker 1: of it all when you got Mac Collins out there

675
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Speaker 1: making big time plays for you in big spots.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We're going to come back on the other side and

678
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Speaker 1: we'll do a little bit of news and we will

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Speaker 1: talk about those Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Day games back on the NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm feeling a little bad because I forgot to

682
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Speaker 1: mention Jim Harbaugh in those honor Old Mendons. He would

683
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Speaker 1: have been eighth. By the way, that's how good a

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Speaker 1: year it is that Jim Harbaugh. He's not even getting

685
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Speaker 1: into the top five with an incredible coaching job. But

686
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Speaker 1: we are going to do some news. Yes, got the

687
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Speaker 1: news Alie on Monday that DK Metcalf will be suspended

688
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: two games for physically confronting a Lions fan in Detroit.

689
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Speaker 1: As of this taping, we're waiting to find out about

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Speaker 1: the appeal. One reason why I didn't bring it up

691
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Speaker 1: on the Monday night recap. First of all, I was

692
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Speaker 1: just basket in the afterglow of Philip Rivers playing outstanding.

693
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Speaker 1: But the other on was I was hoping to find

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Speaker 1: out about the appeal. But as of this daping, we

695
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Speaker 1: don't know. It could possibly go down to one game.

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin spoke about the suspension, and DK metcalf on Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: He did explain to me why he did what he did,

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Speaker 5: and I certainly don't condone the behavior, but I support DK,

699
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Speaker 5: and I really don't have a lot to add other

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Speaker 5: than what I just told you. I think he has

701
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Speaker 5: a hearing this afternoon and appeals hearing, and I certainly

702
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Speaker 5: don't want to weigh in prior to that, and certainly

703
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Speaker 5: I've heard more recently that there might be legal ramifications,

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Speaker 5: and so I better be careful about what I say

705
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Speaker 5: and how I say it.

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Speaker 1: The NFL, you know, had a statement supporting pretty clearly

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Speaker 1: in the player Conduct Policy of why they made the

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Speaker 1: decision that they made. Just thinking about it on the field, Allie,

709
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Speaker 1: there was a part of me that just wanted to

710
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Speaker 1: be smarty and be like, well, this is what Aaron

711
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Speaker 1: Rodgers and Arthur Smith want anyways. An entire offense built

712
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Speaker 1: out of Kenny Gainwell, Darnell Washington, with a little bit

713
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: of Jalen Warren and Scottie Miller mixed in. Do you

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Speaker 1: think this impacts the Steeler, especially this week against the

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Speaker 1: Browns trying to win the AFC North.

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Speaker 3: I think it does against the Browns because you're gonna

717
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Speaker 3: see such a man coverage heavy unit and the only

718
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Speaker 3: man coverage they beat that they have is just let's

719
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Speaker 3: get the ball to DK, and so if you've ripped

720
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Speaker 3: it out, I think that's a problem. It's actually hilarious

721
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Speaker 3: that the line switched to the most own coverage they've

722
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Speaker 3: played in two seasons, effectively against the one team they

723
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Speaker 3: didn't need to do that against, and then got roasted

724
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Speaker 3: yottage wise. So I think it impacts against the Browns.

725
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Speaker 3: I think less of against the Ravens, whey they kind

726
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Speaker 3: of get into big bully ball mode and run the

727
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: ball down that throats a little bit of Ben Scronic

728
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Speaker 3: thrown in, But I think it does impact De Manster Browns.

729
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really interesting what if because if they

730
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Speaker 1: had seen what happened on Sunday between between DK, you know, shoving,

731
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: grabbing the collar of the fan, he would have gotten

732
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Speaker 1: ejected from that game. And ultimately he did make some

733
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Speaker 1: key catches down the stretch in that game which helped

734
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Speaker 1: them win. And because they did win that game, they

735
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Speaker 1: might not need him at all to win the AFC North.

736
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Speaker 1: They might not even have to play to win the

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Speaker 1: AFC North because the Ravens are on Saturday Night, They're

738
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Speaker 1: gonna be underdogs against the Packers. We're still gonna have

739
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: to find out who the quarterbacks are there. But the

740
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Speaker 1: Ravens lose that game and then yeah, the Steelers win

741
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. You know, they could take care of business

742
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Speaker 1: before dk UH is even back. Okay, let's talk Christmas games.

743
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Speaker 1: I joked about it at the top. We've all, uh,

744
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Speaker 1: we've all had our fun. This is what it is

745
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: people and people are saying that are they gonna build

746
00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: in flexible you know, scheduling into future Christmas games if

747
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: it's in the middle of the week, it's tough. Like

748
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes did not tear his acl until a week

749
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Speaker 1: and a half before this game. I don't know if

750
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Speaker 1: they're going to be able to have a situation, for instance,

751
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Speaker 1: where they could flex it that close for a midweek game. Anyways,

752
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Speaker 1: they don't do that right now. And for instance, with

753
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings losing JJ McCarthy and Washington, you know,

754
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: all these injuries happen late. It's just what happens at

755
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: this time of year. The football schedule is unpredictable, but

756
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Speaker 1: it will start on Netflix, Ali, with the Cowboys being

757
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: seven point favorites in Washington, we got Iron Eagle, Nate Burleson,

758
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Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan. These are kind of one off cruise

759
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Speaker 1: here for the Netflix games, but I like that crew.

760
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. We kind of decided to

761
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Speaker 1: pose this as like, what would you look forward to

762
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Speaker 1: in this game? Ali, Like, I don't know what your

763
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: plans are on Christmas? Are you in Manchester? Like where

764
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Speaker 1: are you going to be on Christmas?

765
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Speaker 3: I will be in Manchester. I'll be glued to Netflix

766
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Speaker 3: and then to Amazon Prime La Toronto watch these glorious

767
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: series of matches.

768
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Speaker 2: Now you don't have to do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like in any football game, I'm I do

770
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Speaker 1: feel like a sicko sometimes, Like whenever these games get closer,

771
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Speaker 1: I do get a feeling of just like I am excited,

772
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Speaker 1: here comes another NFL game that hasn't that hasn't left

773
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Speaker 1: me here on Christmas. It's a little much, but there's

774
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Speaker 1: always something to watch for me. I guess I would

775
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Speaker 1: just start with Dak Prescott, who's coming off a fantastic

776
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Speaker 1: game against the Chargers. And I know a lot of

777
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Speaker 1: people say, like, oh, Winter football, Like I love it.

778
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Speaker 1: With the weather and the conditions and like close cold

779
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: weather games, It's like, no, I'd rather see Dak Prescott

780
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: ripping highlight reel throws in George Pickens and Cedee Lamb

781
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: kind of just going nuts on a pretty underwhelming defense.

782
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Speaker 2: And I can absolutely see that happening.

783
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Speaker 1: I know it's in Washington, so the weather could be

784
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: bad here, but I do think it could be a

785
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Speaker 1: game for Dak to just go off and put up

786
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Speaker 1: some big numbers.

787
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Speaker 3: I do think this is a fun early one because

788
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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a ton of points. Since

789
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Speaker 3: Week eight, the Commander's thirty second in the league in

790
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: past defense EPA PO play, the Cowboys are thirty first,

791
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: and Malcus Mario is no longer just kind of the

792
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: officion get the ball out guy that he's being for

793
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: most as great he is gunning down the field. I

794
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: don't know where he is right now, but a couple

795
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: of weeks back he was the leader in the league

796
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: in yachts per attempt, and he's really trying to drive

797
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: the ball down the field in ways that Marxs Mariot

798
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Speaker 3: is not normally accustomed to doing. So we're gonna get

799
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Speaker 3: Dak thrownkitas, you got bumbles away, Malcus Mario diad we

800
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: got two stinky defenses. I think there could be some

801
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: fun points on the line.

802
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: Now, I did a bad job setting you up because

803
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Speaker 1: as of Tuesday, we do not know the starting quarterback

804
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Speaker 1: of Washington.

805
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: But I did some digging this morning.

806
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Speaker 1: Uh And by digging, I mean I searched Twitter and

807
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota not seen at practice the last two days

808
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: they have been practicing. And then I did a little

809
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: more digging, which is just texting various insiders and whatnot.

810
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Who would know more? And again no one is reporting,

811
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Speaker 1: No one knows. But I think the betting favorite right

812
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: now would be Josh Johnson starting this game for the Commanders,

813
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Speaker 1: in part because they signed Jeff Driscoll to the active

814
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: roster off the street, which we're getting deep here, and

815
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Speaker 1: the reason they would sign Driscoll. I don't think it's

816
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Speaker 1: to start Driscoll, but because they don't trust uh Hartman

817
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: Sid Hartman to even be their backup.

818
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: Who Sam Hartman?

819
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Speaker 1: Rather, I was thinking about Sid Luckman, the great quarterback

820
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Speaker 1: back in the day, Sam Hartman, that they don't even

821
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Speaker 1: trust him to be the backup.

822
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Speaker 2: But who knows.

823
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's Driscoll and Johnson on Christmas, so that could

824
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Speaker 1: be good. It's a group that would make the Cowboys

825
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: look better defensively.

826
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Speaker 3: That is true. Jos Johnson also has no pulse, so

827
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: he almost may will be bums away, so that's exciting.

828
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Speaker 3: So I think he could have a drive up and

829
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Speaker 3: down the old time situation. I respect these plays quotes

830
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: back for the Commandos, there will be a sea of

831
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Speaker 3: coverage buss in the flakiest defense in the league that

832
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: plays about three different coverages, and SMA still finds a

833
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: way to bust it full five times a game.

834
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Speaker 1: I know it's on three days rest, but who would complain?

835
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Speaker 1: If Philip Rivers just joined the Commanders right now and

836
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Speaker 1: you put him on Christmas against the Cowboys, Philip Rivers

837
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: might complain it might be tough in that offense. I'm

838
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: liking Dallas. I'm giving everyone free picks just for little

839
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: extra value. Dallas covering the seven here. I did want

840
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: to listen to Jerry Jones, by the way, after the

841
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: game on Sunday, he was asked about the difficult decisions

842
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to Matt Eberflus, his coordinator.

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Speaker 2: After the season I.

844
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Speaker 6: Don't know that, relatively speaking, might not couch it as difficult.

845
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Speaker 6: Certainly something that we have to do, and that is

846
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Speaker 6: look at the entire year and look at what our

847
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 6: options are and how to correct not being here at

848
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Speaker 6: the same time next year.

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely brutal. I mean, he was in the family,

850
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Speaker 2: Matt Abraflus.

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Speaker 3: How do you even show up for what the next

852
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Speaker 3: of you? Myt eba Flus. It's like, if you're gonna

853
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: let me go out the in the season, can I

854
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Speaker 3: just get to Miami two weeks early and go and

855
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Speaker 3: have a vacation.

856
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: You're a professional and you think about hopefully the generous contract.

857
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that Matt Eberflus is near the top of

858
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator pay rankings in the NFL, and that

859
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: money is guaranteed after this year. So you keep showing

860
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Speaker 1: up and collecting those checks for two more weeks and

861
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Speaker 1: hope that you have a good matchup against Josh Johnson.

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Speaker 1: All right, in the middle matchup, we have the Lions.

863
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Speaker 1: This will matter for playoff positioning if the Lions lose

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00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: this game in Minnesota and get swept by the Vikings,

865
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Speaker 1: because yes.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Pete Minnesota. I mean beat the Lions earlier this season.

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Speaker 1: Then the Lions are eliminated here in week seventeen, that

869
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: would be really sad. It would be even sadder because

870
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: they're facing our guy, Max Brozmer. The Lions are six

871
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: point favorites in Minnesota. What are you looking for most

872
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: in this game?

873
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 3: What I'm looking for is the offensive line the Lions

874
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: and the here offensive line. Do we have a health

875
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: update on who will be starting at center for the Lions?

876
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: Are we aware of who that will be? Because this

877
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: thing of rotating through and changing your center almost drive

878
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: by drive, both being terrible, both being able to stop

879
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: the ball is a real, real problem at Jared Goff

880
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: is of so much credit for last week for standing

881
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: in in an absolute fire. It was a storm around

882
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: him and just throwing dime after dime down the field.

883
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: But they've had a compromise offensive line for the entire season.

884
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: This was Penny Sewell's worst game of the season, oh wow,

885
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 3: and probably the most game of his career last week.

886
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: And the interior is just such a problem. And it

887
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: really showed up that if your interior is weak, and

888
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: particularly if it's slow off the ball, it is the

889
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: whole house of cards falls in. So they got to

890
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: try and correct some of that stuff. They've got to

891
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: have a solid protection plan against the chaotic and chaos

892
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: of Brian Flores, And I just got to see, does

893
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: that thing look a little bit tightened up? Because even

894
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: if they sneak into the postseason here, I just think

895
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: they are so fundamentally flawed with that offensive line that

896
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: they'll they'll get waxeddilly on anyway.

897
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: I mean Kingsley, Ego Khan, Gego Kuhn had he had

898
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: some fun run run game reps. I don't know, maybe

899
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: those are just like highlight reel reps. But it's funny

900
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: because we're watching Jared Goff's best moments last week, and

901
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: because you're talking about the interior line, I'm looking and

902
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: the interior line caves basically every play. They're at backups everywhere,

903
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: and even the tackles you mentioned Sewell struggled. But Taylor

904
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: Decker is not quite what he once was. And I

905
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: agree Goff is playing quite well over the last five

906
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: or six weeks. I think he's playing fantastic, But this

907
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: is a dangerous matchup the Vikings defense. I couldn't believe this.

908
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: They haven't given up a passing touchdown in like nine weeks.

909
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: It's an NFL record, and they are balling out right

910
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: now against bad offensive lines. This is a tough front

911
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: for them to go against. Let's actually listen to Dan

912
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Campbell because we've been talking about the run game struggles

913
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: for a while that Detroit's had. They just aren't the

914
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: same team when they can't run the ball.

915
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: It takes really all eleven guys to get the run

916
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: game going. You know, everybody's got to be on pars.

917
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: So it's one player here, whether it's in the old

918
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: line or or at another spot. It's not just there.

919
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 4: You know, the backs are involved, receivers, tight ends. So

920
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: we just kind of took turns with whether it was

921
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: some of the combinations or not. You know, we're not

922
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: honoring the ID or maybe it's not the right read,

923
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 4: but yeah, we had there was a couple in there.

924
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: You know, I wish I could have had the calls back,

925
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 4: a couple of calls back.

926
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: Sad. Dan Campbell's kind of bumming me out right now.

927
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: It's too bad because they didn't make that pass interference

928
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 1: call on taslaw. This game would mean a lot more,

929
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: and they would have found a way, you know, despite

930
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: being down twelve points with under five to go to

931
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: win that game.

932
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: I thought that was a bad call.

933
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: But what are you making of what Dan Campbell has

934
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: been doing as a play caller and where he's at

935
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: as their coach.

936
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: I thought he was doing well and he didn't change

937
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: a dramatic amount of the offense. He just started trying

938
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: to feature plays more. He would kind of move around

939
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 3: who was wearing the reed to try and feature plays

940
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: more before when it was molted and it was it

941
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: was just more of just call the plays and the

942
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: guys are lined up where they're lined up. So I

943
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: thought that was a smart little switch that he made.

944
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: I thought last week against the Steelers was just very

945
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: bizarre and that he abandoned a ton of the key

946
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: principles that the Lions have. You mentioned from the run

947
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: game struggles. They've over all a lot of the play

948
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: action system because how poor the interior is. Jared Goff

949
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 3: wants playing a vertical play action set where it's him

950
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: deep in the pocket. Right, It's the classic like duo

951
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: inside runs, you get the fake hand off. It's a

952
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: deep vertical pocket. They don't move the pocket an awful lot.

953
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: They had to move the pocket against the Steelers because

954
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: you can't just sit in a deep vertical set if

955
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: the interior is getting caved in every single time. And

956
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: Jared Goffer isn't guy who can play on the move.

957
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: He's not a boot action thrower. He's a deep vertical

958
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 3: play action thrower. So he starts taking that stuff away

959
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 3: from the Lions, you have real issues. They didn't have

960
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: as many crossing and runaway type routes where you're just

961
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: running to grass. There was a lot of return to

962
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: the quarterback hitches and stops. That's just not who the

963
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: Lions have been throughout the entirety of this run. So

964
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: that gave me real pause that he was pretty concerned

965
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: about his own personnel and and it ties up to

966
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: what he's seeing there. So much of what they've done

967
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 3: over this room with Ben Jonson and to Den Campbell

968
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: is based off the tight end, and the tight end

969
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: being a true all round play. You can impact the

970
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: room game, could impact that vertical play action game. They

971
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: just don't have that right now. Of lapoul Trow.

972
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you think of their season, that loss to

973
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy and the Vikings, it was kind of the

974
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: Canaria in the coal mine of like everything that was

975
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: going to come later that wasn't gonna work.

976
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: They could not run the ball at all in that game.

977
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: They ended up with sixty five yards or they were

978
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: just banging their head against the wall. And the defense

979
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: did not play well and it has not played well.

980
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: I like the Vikings to at least cover the six.

981
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: This is not count towards my weekly pick show. These

982
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: are not my official picks. We're just given extra because

983
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: we want to on Christmas, and you know it's a

984
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: little extra is getting Max Brosmer in what could be

985
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: the most watched game of the entire season, because the

986
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: afternoon Christmas slot is like the afternoon Thanksgiving slot sort

987
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: of set up to be as as most watched as

988
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: it could possibly be. And Brozmer came in at halftime

989
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: last week. Now, they only scored three points. Scoring points

990
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: is important in the second half, but he did have

991
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: a game winning drive to set up that field goal.

992
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to Paul Allen call the best Max

993
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Brosmer throw of the year.

994
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 7: Max Brosmer the Vikings four of eight on third down,

995
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 7: looking at a third and seventeen, He'll throw left to Jefferson,

996
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 7: caught into forty six and yes, that's a tall blood

997
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 7: of connection right, Hash left sideline twenty two yards Brosmer

998
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 7: to Justin Jefferson and a first down.

999
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: That really was an awesome throw. That's Paul Allen on

1000
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: KFA and and Pete Burstich.

1001
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: I love the intensity this Vikings team, this broadcast crew,

1002
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: they have not lost any intensity. That was third and

1003
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: seventeen and I don't think it actually set up the

1004
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: game winning field goal, but it was.

1005
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: It was a dime.

1006
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking back to when we watched them in

1007
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: London and we saw Brozmer warming up on the sidelines

1008
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: after Carson Wentz took that big hit where it was

1009
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: Carson Swesner that hurt him. We thought Brozemer was coming in.

1010
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: We thought that was going to be a moment. Now

1011
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: we get a moment on Christmas. What are you thinking

1012
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: the Max Brozemer experience is going to be?

1013
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: Like, uh a little.

1014
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 3: I was excited if people who don't know my former

1015
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: staff at Western Michigan they went to Minnesota and Max

1016
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: Broze was the quarts back there at Minnesota. Everyone there

1017
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: absolutely loves Max Brozman, loves the intelligence loves how well

1018
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: you understands the game, and so I was a little

1019
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: bit bought into all those kind of cliches and the

1020
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: under the hood stuff about the quarterback, and I was

1021
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: buying some of the end of lifting stuff going around

1022
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: the surface about well Kevin O'Connell in training camp with

1023
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: Brozen versus McCarthy, and someone understands the plate book. That's

1024
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: the month's really struggling. Then I did watch the Seattle

1025
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: game and go, okay, I've been duped a little bit.

1026
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 3: Hit the kind is staff the physical to maybe play

1027
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: in the NFL. I thought I did enjoy the pole

1028
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: al of I'm not throwers making it out like it's

1029
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: some kind of breadth far complete sizzle to the sideline.

1030
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: I don't think it was quite necessarily to that level.

1031
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: But I think he will, at base minimum, get them

1032
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: in the right plays, get the play cold in time,

1033
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: get them lined up, not blow the protection assignments the

1034
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 3: way JJ McCarthy didn't gut himself hurt at the weekend.

1035
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 3: So if they can just scrabble out enough points to

1036
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: let the defense go feast, I think they can keep

1037
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 3: it close.

1038
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: And for most of the world that understandably did not

1039
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: watch the Vikings Giants game, which was which was comedy.

1040
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Last week.

1041
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson made about three or four plays that only

1042
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson would make in that game. Justin Jefferson is

1043
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: still bawling out. It still is a great group around Brozman.

1044
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: The problem is Ryan Kelly, their center, has a concussion.

1045
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: I assume we're not going to see him again this year.

1046
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: Christian darisaw their left tackles out. They also lost the guard,

1047
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: so they were missing like an entire side of their

1048
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: offensive line and that's that's troubling. But I think they'll

1049
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: keep it close, and I think the defense will play well,

1050
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: and it's a good matchup for Brozemer because the Lions

1051
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: defense has been one of the worst in the league

1052
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: statistically for now five or six weeks. Let's wrap up

1053
00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: on Christmas Night. I forget that Paul Allen called the

1054
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: worst throw of the year. Unfortunately, I don't think any

1055
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: throw is going to top that. That's going to be

1056
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: on the top of the podium at the end of

1057
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: the year. Let's go to Kansas City thirteen and a

1058
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: half point favorites. The Broncos need this game to keep

1059
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: control of the AFC West and the number one Seeds,

1060
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: so it is very important for them that they bounce

1061
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: back and win this game. I think probably the number

1062
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: one reason to watch here is shoutenfreud, just everyone who's

1063
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: gotten their teeth kicked in by the Chiefs over the

1064
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: last few years. I have our producer Eric, who's a

1065
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Bills fan, just shaking his head back there. I don't

1066
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: think a lot of America is gonna mind the Chiefs

1067
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: getting the doors blown off them at home on Christmas.

1068
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: As as cruel like as that sounds, I just think

1069
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of true.

1070
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: No, I think that's true. The Broncos they want to

1071
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: prove that they can truly be contenting. They see they

1072
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: got to completely rip Apolet The Chiefs said, just rip

1073
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: the throw out and have it almost by half time.

1074
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: Have Travis kell See going up in down the sidelines screaming,

1075
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 3: get everyone, how damn my career end this way? All

1076
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. I think that is what you

1077
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: will be cheating given for.

1078
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: I hate that this will probably be Travis Kelce's last

1079
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: game at Arrowhead. We got the news on Monday that

1080
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are officially moving across state lines. It's about

1081
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: nineteen miles away. But to Kansas got a lot of

1082
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Speaker 1: public money that convinced them to build the stadium there.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a dome stadium. And I'm just thinking, man,

1084
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: when they first mapped all this out, they could have

1085
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: never imagined a scenario where we are announcing that we're

1086
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: moving to Kansas and I know it's still Kansas City.

1087
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: I've driven through there. It's Kansas City on both sides. Yeah,

1088
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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: Still, the people in Missouri are not thrilled, and they

1090
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: could not imagine that they would be six and nine

1091
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: right before a Christmas game where the number one seeded

1092
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Bronx Goes are coming in. Uh, and you have Chris

1093
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: Alta Kuhn starting at quarterback. It's it's gonna be tough.

1094
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: I can't really come up with any like football reasons

1095
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: to watch because, uh, I did watch the lot of

1096
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Coon you know, reps, and he looked like a third

1097
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: string quarterback who was a seventh round pick for the Steelers,

1098
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: like I've seen worse. But he's not going to be

1099
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: able to lift up an offense that has its share

1100
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: of issues, especially on the offensive line against this Denver

1101
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: team who has to be pretty upset with what happened

1102
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: last week against the Jaguars.

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00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 6: Ali.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you're looking at an offense as

1105
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 3: completely devoid of identity, and I just thought we'd never

1106
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: ever think that in the Nie Reid air. And it's

1107
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: a reminder of just the specialness of Patrick Mahomes when

1108
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: you see what it looks like when you rip him

1109
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: out of the starting lineup. You all watching this to

1110
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: cheer the fact that Nick Wright is very, very sad,

1111
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: someomewhat smoking as many heat as possible to get through

1112
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: the fact that Shane Bouchelle may be him by the

1113
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: fourth quota of this thing, and honestly, to see how

1114
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: boning stuns that they're going to Bagnolo. I think that

1115
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: is a real thing that spects His defense this year

1116
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: is being all over the place by his stendars. He

1117
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: has become even more of a Blitzer maniac than he

1118
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: has in recent seasons. His second down blitzerate as skyrocketed

1119
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: to the highest amount of his career. That is a

1120
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: key signed with Specs that he does not like the goods.

1121
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: He doesn't feel he's got the goods on defense. I

1122
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 3: do want to see Albonik stends it and handles all

1123
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 3: out precious stuff. As we get towards the postseason, people

1124
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: build a Nick specific plan just to kind of see

1125
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: what he looks like. I think that they will absolutely

1126
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: roast them, But that is one thing football wise that'll

1127
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: be watching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was disappointed by the Chiefs defense last week.

1129
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: They threw a lot at cam Ward initially and then

1130
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: they just caved in and there wasn't a ton of

1131
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: fight there. And the Titans offense looked as good as

1132
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: it's really looked all season long against this Chiefs team.

1133
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: So I expect Denver to bounce back big time. And

1134
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: we're friends of Nick right, fans of Nick Right, but

1135
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: I think he would enjoy, you know, you, trash talking

1136
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: him like he's been trash talking the rest of the

1137
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: league for a long time. I did see a graphic

1138
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: going around of him predicting how the AFC West would go,

1139
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: and of course he had the Chiefs first, and he

1140
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: took the Chiefs I think first in our over under

1141
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: win totals draft. I would have taken them too. I

1142
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna hit that over so everyone would

1143
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: have had the Chiefs first. But he had the Raiders

1144
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and second and he should have to

1145
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: wear that almost as much. You know what's annoying about this,

1146
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: and this is a very you know, self centered take.

1147
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: You know, I hate Patrick Mahomes getting injured so much.

1148
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: It ruins. It ruins like the sport next year to start.

1149
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: It ruins, you know, the middle of one of the

1150
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: best players of all time's career. But it also almost

1151
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: ruins my ability to enjoy dunking on the Chiefs right now,

1152
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: because it's just more sad than anything. I like, they

1153
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: should just be six and nine or seven and eight

1154
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes and that would be much more fun

1155
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: for me to like enjoy their downfall.

1156
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: This just seems sad. It's just depressing.

1157
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm ruining the end of Christmas. I mean, he was

1158
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: supposed to hand Christmas Joseph. That's a great gift to

1159
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: me and I've lost that.

1160
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: To be real, you've seen some great final moments in

1161
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: a stadium and everything. Maybe they get Travis Kelce a

1162
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: touchdown or something like that and it could be a

1163
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: cool moment. I'm sure Andy Reid is if he's doing

1164
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: anything this week, it is working on some special plays

1165
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: for Travis Kelce to get a touchdown and to have

1166
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: a final moment. We can only hope he is as

1167
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: successful as Kellen Moore was for Taysom Hill at the

1168
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: super Dome last Sunday, amazing moment. Taysom Hill was crying

1169
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: on the post game all time, like his home fan

1170
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: base is gonna love Taysom Hill forever.

1171
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: Good job by Kellen Moore and Taysom Hill. Good job

1172
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: by you.

1173
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Alli. Appreciate you having you on, stepping in and we'll

1174
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Speaker 1: get you back on our Saturday SICCO show in a

1175
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But in the meantime, enjoy, enjoy Christmas,

1176
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: enjoy the family. All right, that is it for today's show.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be back on Wednesday. I'm losing track.

1178
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Speaker 1: We're coming back a lit little earlier than normal in

1179
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: the feed with your preview show every game in five

1180
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: minutes or less. We are figuring out playoff seeding in

1181
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: this week. Can't wait for it to see tho