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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross, Welcome to another episode of Cowboys Crosstalk. We're

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Speaker 1: here live at the Star. Shannon Gross sitting across from

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Speaker 1: my co worker Nick Eatman. How you doing a night, Nick?

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Speaker 1: And great? How you doing man Man? I am great.

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Speaker 1: We are joined by our flagship station and Reggie. I

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Speaker 1: always get your last name wrong. Tell me if I

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Speaker 1: get this added Tula, that's perfect. You did it exactly. Okay,

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Speaker 1: finally I got it right for once. Yes, sir, Good

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Speaker 1: to have you on board tonight. Good to be here

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Speaker 1: nice and warm inside the studio. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the most important thing on a day like this. You

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Speaker 1: are right, and we are joined tonight by very special guests.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while since since I've heard this name,

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Speaker 1: and it brings back some very good memories. Dexter Cokeley

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Speaker 1: on the show tonight. How's it going, Dexter going? Well? Man?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Fellas? Are y'all? What's up? Man? We've got

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Speaker 1: so much to get into tonight. There's been so many

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Speaker 1: players coming and going over the last day, day and

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Speaker 1: a half. Nick, you've you've been in the loop on

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Speaker 1: of the stuff. We'll get into that in a second,

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Speaker 1: But first off, Dexter, where are you living these days?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? What is Dexter cokele up to man?

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Speaker 1: Texas is still home. Man. Since I got drafted at

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Speaker 1: ninety seven, you know, I became a you know, a Texan.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't born in Texas. But now I do live in Texas.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I just moved to the Mansfield area.

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Speaker 1: school coaching. Obviously, COVID is affecting everybody. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: So we have to cancel our game this Friday, so

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Speaker 1: effects of this man Man, Well, talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: decks about just you've it's been a while since obviously

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Speaker 1: you played, Yes, guys like that, you still you still

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Speaker 1: miss it? I mean, is it you still watch the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys every week? Or you're trying to mean, what's this

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Speaker 1: is a game with the glass on me? Go ahead?

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Speaker 1: that competition out there on the field. I don't miss

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Speaker 1: just that every day pounding because my body is feeling

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Speaker 1: you know. But I don't miss the grind. I don't

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Speaker 1: Are they just trying to get new guys in here?

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Speaker 1: was this team should have made the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, there were a few games away. I mean,

427
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Speaker 1: a couple of bad losses, should have should have made

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. So there really is not much of a rebuild.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't expect this rebuild it was. I mean, they

430
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Speaker 1: tried to reload and then now all of a sudden

431
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Speaker 1: it's getting you know, torn down. So I just think

432
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Speaker 1: it's a building process, um, and I think you can

433
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Speaker 1: build the you know, they got to build the culture,

434
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Speaker 1: like I said, they got to build the trust, and

435
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Speaker 1: and they got to figure out ways to to win

436
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Speaker 1: some games. And you know, but there's you know, this

437
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: is this could be a good team next year with

438
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Speaker 1: a lot of the guys coming back. It's just that,

439
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, there's still a lot of question marks on

440
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Speaker 1: some some positions and they got to figure out how

441
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Speaker 1: to how to what defense they're going to play, and

442
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: you know who's the right pieces for it? Dexter, you played,

443
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Speaker 1: if I if I got this right, ninety seven through

444
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Speaker 1: two thousand and three for the Cowboys. For the Cowboys

445
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Speaker 1: a couple of years, I think with Rand was it

446
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: oh three year last year for the Cowboys? Yes, and

447
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: then I went two years in Saint Louis, Okay okay, Um.

448
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: You had four different head coaches Switzer, Gailey, Campo Parcels.

449
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Speaker 1: From just a coaching change standpoint, what's that transition? Like?

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Speaker 1: How how from a player's perspective, law, how long does

451
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: it take you to get up to speed and understand

452
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Speaker 1: the language and what they expect out of you and

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Speaker 1: kind of expectation From just a coaching change standpoint, man, well,

454
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Speaker 1: getting up to speed is pretty simple because the guys

455
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: are pretty smart. You know, you're not going to be

456
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: an NFL if you're a dumb player. But as far

457
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Speaker 1: as transitioning from one scheme to another, that's a tough situation.

458
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Speaker 1: You know. Fortunately for me, when I got drafted by

459
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they were running a Folly three and throughout

460
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Speaker 1: my career as far as you know, Dave Campbell, they

461
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: stuck with the forty three format where you know, I

462
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: had a three technique tackle in front of me, so

463
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Speaker 1: I was pretty much covered up with Leroy Glover and

464
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: Leon letting those guys allowing me to run and float.

465
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Speaker 1: When Parcels got hired. You know, Parcels is used to

466
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Speaker 1: a three four defense, and I know it's speaking schematically,

467
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: but you know he's more or less having two linebackers

468
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Speaker 1: on the outside stand up and the rushed from the

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Speaker 1: edge from those that are you know, logged on and

470
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out for three to three four you

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Speaker 1: got outside backers that are standing up in the two

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Speaker 1: point kind of like the markets where and they're just

473
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Speaker 1: rushing from the edge being pass rushers. Well, that's what

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Speaker 1: Parcels wanted to implement. But eighty five percent of the

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Speaker 1: team was built for a four three where we had

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Speaker 1: defensive vans like you know, Tony Tober didn't play with him,

477
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Speaker 1: but the guys who had three point stands at their

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Speaker 1: hands down in the dirt rushing the pass rusher. Well, schematically,

479
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Speaker 1: if you don't have the players to run the defense

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00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: you want to run, that's when it becomes a problem.

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Speaker 1: The players are smart, they're doing what you're asking him

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Speaker 1: to do. But it's just a situation where you may

483
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Speaker 1: not have a tackle on your team that could play

484
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: the three four. He may be a four three tackle.

485
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Speaker 1: Three four tackles are huge. They're two blockers. They're taught

486
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Speaker 1: to take up two blocks and allow guys to move around.

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Speaker 1: You know, for example, you look at ray Lewis in

488
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: his career, ray Lewis always had a three hundred pounded

489
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: guy in front of him. That's the difference. So as

490
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: far as the language, the guys are smart enough to

491
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Speaker 1: interpret what's being asked to them. It's just that if

492
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Speaker 1: schematically we're trying to do something that we don't have

493
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Speaker 1: the players to do, that's when it's a problem. All Right,

494
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: we're up against our next break. When we come back, Reggie,

495
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: I want you to think about this during the break

496
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: because I need some hope. I'm tired of being drugged

497
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: down the last few weeks. I need some hope. We're

498
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: still in this playoff phrase, we can still win the division.

499
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: We're going into Philly. It's a big game, it's a

500
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: night game. I want to have hope. But then then

501
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: I have nightmares about Fletcher Cox and Graham and I

502
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: and I want you to come out of this break

503
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: and I want you to pump me up, and I

504
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: want you to make me feel good about this game

505
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Can you do that? I think I got you. Okay,

506
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Reggie to pump me up whenever we

507
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Speaker 1: come back. You're listening to the Cowboys Cross Talk on

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network to SWBC Mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk

509
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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star

510
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: in Frisco, Frisco. Shannon Gross, Nick Eatman holding it down

511
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: here across from each other. I feel like we're in

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Speaker 1: a hockey game, in a Stars game. We have the

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: plexiglass in between us. I've never been that close to

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Speaker 1: the Stars game. Red, you had a twol over at

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Speaker 1: the Flagship station one oh five three the Fan and

516
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Speaker 1: Dexter Cokeley joining us on the show somewhere in the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Metroplex. Don't give your address out on the show, Dexter,

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00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: let's don't okay? Good all right, Reggie, Let's get to

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00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: you man, give me some hope. I need some I'm

520
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: tired of being drug down this week, it's Wednesday. I'm

521
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: ready to focus on on the Eagles. We win the game,

522
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: we're in first place in the division, we're still mathematically alive.

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Speaker 1: We can go win this thing. You know, the Giants

524
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: did it several years ago, had to win sixth straight

525
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: to get into the wildcard game and went on to

526
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Speaker 1: beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. I need hope,

527
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: but I need someone to give me a little push,

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00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: push me. All right, let me let me see if

529
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Speaker 1: I can help you out with the starting with this

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Speaker 1: week with Philly. We've watched Philly obviously proximity. We end

531
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Speaker 1: up seeing them on local games when the Cowboys aren't playing.

532
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: And Philly, yes they are. They happen to be at

533
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: sometimes one of the better teams in this division, whatever

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00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: that says. But they're high variants. They'll play well. We've

535
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: seen them play a bus. It just depends on which

536
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Philly team comes out. So that's number one, number two,

537
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be careful the way that I say it,

538
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: because once more, we're sitting with Dexter. Cokeley. Dexter, you

539
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: forced a few fumbles in your time as a linebacker

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00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL, So I don't want us. I don't

541
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Speaker 1: want to be I want to be careful with the

542
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: way I say it. But in some ways, turnovers can

543
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: be a little bit random, and I find it hard

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Speaker 1: to believe that the Cowboys will lose the turnover battle

545
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: week after week after week. I feel like that breaks

546
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: at some point, even at for a moment. So there,

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Speaker 1: I think there's an opportunity to if you win a

548
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: turnover battle. I mean, how many times have we heard

549
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: it said by the head coach of this football team,

550
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, and by anybody in football. Winning the turnover

551
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: battle is pretty much half the battle in a football game.

552
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: If you win the tournover battle, there's a high likelihood

553
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: that you win a game. So I don't think that

554
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will continue to lose the turnover battle in

555
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: that same way. And you're getting reinforcements back. I think

556
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: Nick actually spoke to it where there's gonna be a

557
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: readjustment in the offensive line to get the best five

558
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: offensive linemen out there. And I think that you do that,

559
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: you give yourself a better opportunity to pass block, to

560
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: run block, and you have If you have those things

561
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: come together, I think you can get a win in

562
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Philly and you can start actualizing what this team can

563
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: be to try and win this season. So you're getting reinforcement.

564
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: It's not just on the offensive line, but in the secondary,

565
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: and I think that that can help you play more

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Speaker 1: solid football and give you opportunities to win. In the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Dexter Reggie brought it up turnovers. This team seems to

568
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: have a problem. Whether it's intercepting the ball. It seems

569
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Speaker 1: like the defensive backs for the last couple of years

570
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: have been right there in the right position. Just don't

571
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: turn the head at the right time, don't throw an

572
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: arm up at the right time. The fumbles always seem

573
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: to bounce the other way. Zeke is now dropping the ball.

574
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Speaker 1: He's never done that in his career. Talk about fumbles,

575
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Speaker 1: Is it a lot of just randomness or there are

576
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Speaker 1: things you can do or practice, Like can you can

577
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: you coach fumbles on a defensive end, Yes you can.

578
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean you could coach guys to punch the ball,

579
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Speaker 1: to go for the ball on the defensive side. Offensively,

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00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: it's a matter of concentration. Zeke is not out there

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Speaker 1: trying to fumble the ball. I mean, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you look at some of the fumbles he's had. You know,

583
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: defenders of crafty now they're punching at the ball or

584
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: they're grabbing that ball before you could tuck it and

585
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: put it away. That's what defensively you're taught to do. Offensively,

586
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: you have to know that, and Zeke being a running back,

587
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: he knows this. So what he has to do he

588
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: has to be more smarter and more diligent and more

589
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: careful with the ball. Period. He knows there are no

590
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: excuses for fumbling the ball. We could say we can

591
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: go back to Tiki Barber when you go high and tight. Yes,

592
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: we know there are things you can do. But as

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00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: a running back he knows what to do. But when

594
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Speaker 1: it gets in your head that you fumbled once defensively,

595
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: defensive defensive players are thinking, okay, here it goes. And

596
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: every time Zeke touches the ball and carries the ball,

597
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: in his mind he's thinking, I need to do this,

598
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Speaker 1: So I need to do that because I know they're

599
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: going to come for or once it gets in your head,

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00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: it could be a bad thing. He just needs to

601
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: continue to play the game like we know he can't

602
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: play the game and just take care of the ball.

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00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, he knows how to take care

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Speaker 1: of the ball. Because defensively, once you see a guy

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00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: fumble once or twice, you're thinking, we can get him

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Speaker 1: to cough the ball up. We used to always say,

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00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson, we used to always say, keep pounding and

608
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: keep pounding. He's gonna cough it up. Sure enough. A

609
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: lot of times the running backs they fumbled the week

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: before we play against them. We cause a fumble. Well, Zeke,

611
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: it's like you open up a can of worms. You

612
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: know what the defense is going to be coming for now.

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Speaker 1: Every time you touch the rock, people are gonna try

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00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: to cause you to fumble the ball. They're not even

615
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: gonna really go in to try to make a tackle

616
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: or secure tackle. They're gonna punch and grab and see

617
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: if the mental game is taking a hole or taking

618
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: effect on you. You know, and that's that could be

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00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: a good thing for Zeke if you think about it.

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not easy to bring down. So if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're trying to punch the ball out and

622
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: like you said, not really going for a tackle, you know,

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Speaker 1: if he can get it secured and you're not wrapping up,

624
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: you should be able to take some people for a

625
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: ride a little bit. My biggest thing with Zeke is

626
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: right now is I think, yeah, he's thinking about it.

627
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: He's not gonna fumble. That's great, or hopefully he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: But can you still be the Zeke you know, like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the guy that runs over people and

630
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: have that mentality and hang under the ball because you

631
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: can sit there and just cover it up the whole time,

632
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: and like, Okay, they're not gonna punch it out, but

633
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: you just left six yards on the table because you

634
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: were worried about that. That's what I wonder. Can you

635
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: can he get back to being both? Yes, he can,

636
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: he cannot think about it. Just go and play your game. Man.

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Speaker 1: We know the caliber of player that you are. You've

638
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: shown it. Don't look these little mishaps with the fumble

639
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: cause you to now think or outsmart yourself. You are

640
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: the individual. We know what you're capable of doing. Go

641
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: run the ball, run the rock and do or be

642
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: the guy that we know your capable A bid everything

643
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: else take care of itself. If you fumble again, okay,

644
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: you fumble again, but I got one hundred and fifty

645
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. You know, you can't play the

646
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: game scared or you can't play the game thinking. You

647
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: play the game. It's a reactionary game, defensively and offensively.

648
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: You know exactly what you want to do. Go get

649
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: it done. Nick, Reggie gave me some hope for the

650
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: game on Sunday night. Can you give me hope for

651
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Can you talk me into

652
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: having hope for the rest of the season. I'm there

653
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: for Sunday. I got some hope on Sunday again. I

654
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: have to ask you what are you hoping for? You

655
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: want to make the playoffs? Yeah, okay, okay, I want

656
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Fine, I don't want to win

657
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: the division. Make the playoffs and see what happens that.

658
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: When he's talking of fans and stuff that are calling in,

659
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: a lot of them don't. They don't want their team

660
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: tank absolutely put the nucie in let's roll, and what

661
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: happens happens. Listen. I you know I was a Dallas

662
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: Cowboy fan my whole life. I was nineteen eighty nine

663
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite seasons when I moved here.

664
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Speaker 1: So I don't believe in that kind of stuff. I

665
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Speaker 1: really don't. I don't believe in that. I think you

666
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: your play and try to win because I think that

667
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: there's something that you can gain from that. So the

668
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: hope there is is that you're gonna get some of

669
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Speaker 1: these guys back. And you don't need a lot to

670
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: win the division. You really don't you need. You need

671
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get it blocked. I

672
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: think if Andy Dalton can come back, you got to

673
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: keep him upright and block. And if they can get

674
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: Zeke going, Tony Pollard mix it up a little bit,

675
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: and I agree with Reggie. I think the turnovers will

676
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: turn turn around the other way. They're gonna have to,

677
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, steal a win or two. But you know,

678
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: like you said, if they win this game in Philly,

679
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: which it's got it hard to think that they can

680
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: or will, but if they do, they're in first place.

681
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: So it's not like this it's this huge climb. But

682
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: they've got to they've got to trust each other and

683
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: they've got to figure out a way to just play better.

684
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: They've got to be a better football team. Basic stuff.

685
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: You can't give up long touchdown, you know, bombs behind.

686
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Reggie Nick brought it up up

687
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton if he's able to play this week, still

688
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol. I'm assuming Nick this week so far

689
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: doesn't look good to think that he's going to play,

690
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: but who knows. We'll see, Okay, if he's able to

691
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: play this week or available next week, do you roll with?

692
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Do you roll Andy Dalton back out there? Or do

693
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: you let the young guy play and see what he has?

694
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Speaker 1: I mean, Dalton probably gives you the best chance to

695
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Speaker 1: win now, but is it worth the gamble to put

696
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: d Nucci out there and let him play it out

697
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: and see what happens? Oh? No, I feel like you

698
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: go with Andy Dalton. That's the whole reason you brought

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Speaker 1: him in. You brought him in because he is a

700
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Speaker 1: veteran NFL quarterback, someone who is in some people's minds,

701
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: in a lot of people's minds, a capable starting NFL quarterback. Now,

702
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: is he an amazing starting the NFL quarterback? No, I

703
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's saying that. But he is capable NFL

704
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, and that's why you brought him in. So

705
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Speaker 1: I don't see why you would go to and No,

706
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Speaker 1: this is no offense, that's Ben Danucci but he was

707
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: drafting the seventh round. I think you understood what he

708
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: was and I don't think you want to throw him

709
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Speaker 1: to the Wolves. Mike McCarthy and his presser today talked

710
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: about how you know they spent Monday and they were

711
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: just getting him up the speed. That's that's not the

712
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: place you would want to put a player out there

713
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: to succeed. That's not the way that you do that.

714
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: So I think it would be unfair to bend the

715
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: NUCCI for them to do that. Anyways, Andy Dalton is

716
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: capable in this NFL, and you would ride ride with him,

717
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: especially because I think the rest of the team understands

718
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: his resume, his ability. He's not Dak Prescott, but he's

719
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: someone who can get the job done. And I mean,

720
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: I'll defer to Dexter here and for people that are played,

721
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: but I imagine that that belief is something that matters

722
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: in the locker room, and matters is particularly for an offense.

723
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: It does. You know, that's the reason why Andy Dalton

724
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: is here. You know, this guy started his whole career

725
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: in Cincinnaty. He's here for situations like we have now.

726
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: Your starting quarterback gets hurt, you're here to right the

727
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: ship or keep the ship afloat. If you go to

728
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: the Nucci, you're sending the worst message you can send

729
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: to a team, because in that locker room, the players

730
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: are smart. They could see you make a move like this,

731
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: knowing Andy Dalton is ready and now he may not be.

732
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: But if he is ready and able to play, the game,

733
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: you play, and the Dalton if you go with a

734
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick. The message you're sending to the

735
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: players in that locker room is, hey, we don't have

736
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: a shot. We don't think we have a chance. Let's

737
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: just try to get out here and hopefully we don't

738
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: get anybody else hurt. That's not the message you want

739
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: to send to your team. Let's take our last break

740
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: and when we come back. Nick Eatman has been around

741
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: a while. He knows some Dexter Cokeley stories, or at

742
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: least have some Dexter Cokeley questions. We'll get to those,

743
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: and then we do have a game Sunday night in Philly.

744
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that game and what the Cowboys need

745
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: to do to win that game. We don't have enough

746
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: time for that. All that and maybe some more things.

747
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: When we come back. You're listening to the Cowboys, Crows,

748
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: m Shannon Gross with Nick Eatman here at the Star,

749
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: Reggie at a tula holding it down at the Flagship

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00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: Station one oh five three, the Fan and very special

751
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: guests Dexter Cokeley, Nick SWBC Mortgage. They have customized solutions

752
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: to help you meet your personal business goals. You should

753
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: go to SWBC dot com as soon as the show's

754
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: over and check it out. All right, I'll do it,

755
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: all right, But now what I would like for you

756
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: to do before we get into Eagles Cowboys talk because

757
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: that might be a depending on how you look at it,

758
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: it could have been the whole show, or it can

759
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: be a very short segment of the show. Don't turn

760
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: the ball over, block Fletcher Cox, tackle someone, be the

761
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: right space, get an interception for once in your life.

762
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: Don't fumble the ball. Okay, there we go. Now the

763
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: rest of the last segment, Dexter Cokeley, have at it.

764
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: Nick Man. How has it been since you've since you've

765
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: actually talked, you know, dex I think it's got to

766
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: be the least in the last three or four years.

767
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Because I saw him at the Star. He was you're

768
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: up there, like right by our office, Shannon. Shannon I

769
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: sharing office and he walked. I don't know if you

770
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: remember that, but it was, yeah, maybe three years ago,

771
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: so it was quick. I hadn't talked to him much,

772
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: but um, but I do want to ask you something

773
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: and see if you you know. Do you know what

774
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: a category you are the Cowboys record holder in? You

775
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: had a Cowboys record in what category? I bet you

776
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: know this. You should know this. No, No, I'm not

777
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: a big stats person, but I'll tell you the category

778
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: I know I don't hold because me not getting those

779
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: two years here in Dallas, you know, taking me to

780
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: ten years. If I stayed for two years, I knew

781
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: I was going to take Darren Witch the dawn for

782
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: the leading tackle for the Dallas But what he got

783
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: those two years when I went to Saint Louis and

784
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: extended his lead on me. If I had played my

785
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: whole career here in Dallas, I'd be the leading tackle

786
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: for Dallas Cowboys. I do know that. Dang, I didn't

787
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: know that. Okay, yeah, that's not that's not the category.

788
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: You are the leader in this category most touchdowns by

789
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: a defensive player. You had five touchdowns. Wow, Jim Jeffcote

790
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: had four, but you had five touchdowns and I saw

791
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: not all of them because the verse one was your

792
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: rookie year against the Red against the Red team the

793
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Washington Sorry, but but I remember Thanksgiving Day one of

794
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: my favorite memories. My first year working for the Cowboys

795
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine. I totally believe. I just told

796
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 1: Shannon that I think this you made the Pro Bowl

797
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: that year because it's hard to get in that first time.

798
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: You got to bump somebody out that for that game,

799
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: you had two picks on Dan Marino. I think the

800
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys had five that day. You scored one of them

801
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, and and I think, you know that's

802
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: about when you start voting for the Pro Bowl. Coakeley,

803
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: he does it again. I think that that game helped

804
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: you get you know, cracked the door of get into

805
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. And then of course you made it

806
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: two other times. But that's one of my favorite games,

807
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: was beating Dan Marino there on Thanksgiving Day. Yeah, that

808
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: was a special game for me. I mean the way

809
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: the defense came out there and played. But you know,

810
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: the one thing you remember, the ones that I'm play

811
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: are the ones I missed. I mean, that's the thing.

812
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: About the football player. You don't really need so much

813
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: hard right, It's those And I can remember a time

814
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: I dropped an interception against Washington Redskins. I think Tony

815
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: Banks might have been the quarterback, and I knew I

816
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: dropped two touchdowns two interceptions for touchdowns against Detroit lines

817
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: in Detroit. I'm looking at these plays. I'm out route

818
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: the tight end in an outrout, ball, hit me square

819
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: in the hands, dropped that there was nobody in front

820
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: of me for at least fifty yards. That happened twice

821
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: in that game. And I dropped those interceptions for touchdowns

822
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: and we ended up losing to Detroit. I think, yeah,

823
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't know so much about the ones I made.

824
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: I know every single one I drop. I couldn't recount Reggie.

825
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Not every day you get a three time pro bowler

826
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: that you get to pick his brain or ask him

827
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Speaker 1: some questions. What you got for Dexter, Oh man, I'm

828
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: I was soaking it in um well, Dexter. I think

829
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: I think one of the things is you say that

830
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: you've absolutely watched the games. I mean whether or not

831
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: we've super enjoyed watching the games. But the linebacking core

832
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: is a very interesting portion of this team for me,

833
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: because you've got, you know, a young, really good player

834
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: in Layton Vanderesh, You've got a young good player in

835
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. You've got some other ancillary pieces that are solid.

836
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: But it seems like there's instances where you know there's

837
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: missed assignments or you know something is just not clicking. Um,

838
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: I just call upon your linebacking experience and linebacker's eye.

839
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: What is it about this linebacker core that isn't quite right?

840
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: Just right now? What I see? I wish I could

841
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: play the game like one of those guys. I mean,

842
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: just or what the statue. What I see is they're

843
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: playing hard. I'm not gonna take that from them. I

844
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: think what you see those two guys are dogs on

845
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: the defense. They're probably doing a little too much. They're

846
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: probably trying to cover up for somebody else lack of

847
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: being where they're supposed to be. If you know, you're

848
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Speaker 1: supposed to be in the B gap, but I peek

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Speaker 1: my head in that a gap thinking I can make

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Speaker 1: a play. Well, you know where the ball is going

851
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: to go, it's gonna gonna be gap where you're supposed

852
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: to be. The guy in the a gaps is not

853
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: going to get you that when he goes to the sideline,

854
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you because you were not where you

855
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: were supposed to be. Kind of like what I said earlier,

856
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: just do your job. You can't worry about doing somebody

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00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: else's job. There are eleven battles out there defensively. If

858
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: those linebackers win their battle and do their job and

859
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: not too much you worry about doing somebody else's job,

860
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fine. But when you look at those two,

861
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: there's your pillow right there for the defense you build

862
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: around those two guys. Lights out, lights out, I mean,

863
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: those guys know how to play. When you see them,

864
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: when they hit guys, guys fall backwards, you know they

865
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: don't fall forward. And just look at them running sideline

866
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Speaker 1: the sideline. I mean, it's fun to watch being a

867
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: linebacker and seeing how those guys have passion for the

868
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: position and the way they played the game. It's unbelievable.

869
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, don't press play your game,

870
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: do your responsibility, don't try to do somebody else's job. Reggie,

871
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: one of the Cowboys need to do Sunday to beat

872
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Oh, protect You've got to get your line together.

873
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: Your offensive line has got to be solid. When you

874
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: came into the season understanding that maybe the defense wouldn't

875
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: be the rock of your team, your offense was gonna

876
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: be what it needed to get it done. So the

877
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: offense all starts with the offensive line. You gotta get

878
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: that push up front on your run. You got to

879
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: be able to give your quarterback time to pass. If

880
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: they can protect, they'll give themselves a good opportunity to

881
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: compete in this football game. Nick, the Cowboys win in

882
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: Philly if they can get after Carson Wentz his ass.

883
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean get after him seriously. He wants to throw

884
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: you the ball. He does. I mean he makes mistakes too,

885
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: Like you gotta get after him. And it's not gonna

886
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: be Everson Griffin. Obviously, they're opening the door for maybe

887
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: Gregory Bradley and I Dorin's armstrong tank. Hey let's go.

888
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like, like let's if they can

889
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: they can do that and I think create some turnovers.

890
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: They just gotta get that thing just over the hump

891
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, just show hey, we can get the

892
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: ball out too. If that happens. And what Reggie says,

893
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, on the offense, if the offense can help

894
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: them and not put them in bad situations, the defense, though,

895
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: can can start, you know, turning up the heat a

896
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: little bit and get some you know, get some plays

897
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: to go their way. And they just need confidence right now.

898
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be a confident. I love what

899
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: Bill parcels that. There's a line he said and then

900
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: and there was. It was in the locker room. You

901
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: probably remember it, Decks. It was confidence. Let's see what

902
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: figure out how it goes. It goes gives you. Knowledge

903
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: is confidence, I'm sorry, Knowledge is confidence. Confidence lets you

904
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: play fast, and you know, they got to get confidence

905
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: so they can play fast, dexter where they need to

906
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: do to win. Pretty much what you know, just just

907
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: summing up what everybody said thus far. You know, believe

908
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: in yourself, go out there and play with confidence. Play

909
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 1: the game hard. Look, I see that effort one thing,

910
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: that hustle. That hustle play is what we need to see.

911
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: You know. I don't need to see five guys standing

912
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: around and the ball carriers still running with the ball.

913
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: I need to see everybody just sell out, sell out.

914
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, not only are you auditioning for this year's team,

915
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, But they're thirty one other teams that you're

916
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: auditioning for. And you clearly see in the locker room

917
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: that guys, you know, the grim Brieper came to saw

918
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: some guys a day as far as cutting them and

919
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: letting them go. You don't want to be that guy.

920
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: So every opportunity you get to make a play, try

921
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: to make that play. All right, now, reality check, Nick,

922
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen in Philly? I

923
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: And we're all getting excited, you know, Oh wow, reality

924
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, um, I don't I think that they'll They'll

925
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: have a hard time, probably with the running game, I

926
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: mean going up you know, running the football, run with

927
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: with Zeke, and I think it's gonna just put pressure

928
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: on whoever the quarterback is. I still think it's gonna

929
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: be Denucci and his head's gonna be spinning like he's

930
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: never you know. I think they will play hard, especially

931
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: if they can get Dexter on the charter to go

932
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: up there and talk to him like that. You know,

933
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: I think they can play. I mean because he's right,

934
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: he's right, you know, show some pride, I mean, show

935
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: it and if you have it cool, it's not the reality.

936
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 1: Perception you know is reality, and the perception is they're

937
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: not showing that pride, so you know the world will

938
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: be watching again. I just don't think they'll have enough

939
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: talent at the end of the day to win this game.

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00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: I really don't Reggie about thirty seconds. What's your take,

941
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna happen? Nick's right on it.

942
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: I think that Denucci ends up playing in the game.

943
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: Plan for the defense is going to be let that

944
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: guy beat us. We're not letting Ezekiel Ali or Tony

945
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: Poler beat us. We're gonna go after. We're gonna stop

946
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: the run, and if y'all can throw over top of us,

947
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: y'all can win. And I'm not sure if Ben Denucci

948
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: is in the place where he can do that just yet. Dexter,

949
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: you got doom and gloom or you get you're giving

950
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: me a little hope Sunday night. I believe Blue. I

951
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: mean I'm not going to root for the Eagles. I

952
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: believe Blue. So you know, go Cowboys pretty much well, fellas, Nick,

953
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: It's always good to see your face. I know we

954
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: share an office and we're not able to work together

955
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: these days, so this is as close as we get.

956
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: So this is this is always a treat for me. Reggie,

957
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: good hanging out with you. Thanks for putting up with

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00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: us for the last hour. Thanks for inviting me. This

959
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: is fun. This has been great man, and obviously Dexter

960
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: appreciate you hanging out with us. Man, this has been great.

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