WEBVTT - "Photography" w/ Richard Perez 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.800 Podcast starts now. First of all, Happy New Year. Yeah, 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.520 and you know what, Yes, it's the new year. But 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.360 I'll tell you this and I and I know, I 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:36.440 know is off to a rockets start. I know that 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:42.879 everyone listening to this is wealthier, smarter, healthier, more sexually 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:47.839 aroused than they were any other previous year of their life. 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:54.400 It doesn't matter if you're or five, um. But I 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.880 will say that currently we are recording in the previous 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.480 new year, so you don't So if you don't see 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.960 that spark, if you don't hear that spark in our voices, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.480 it's still two in our world, still here. But but 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.720 I'll say to you. To you, I say, happy New Year, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:16.320 and congratulations on being in the first good year, because 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.720 this is the year that everything gets turned around. Finally, 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.880 I am it's so clear to me. It's so clear 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.840 to me that is going to be that year. I 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:30.280 mean it's symmetrical. First of all, they're equal, and then 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.160 it's of course the twelve year and the calendar of 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:37.160 the ancients, and so those two things alone, I mean, 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.360 it's it's numerology. I mean, when I woke up today 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:47.840 on UM January three, I saw um that it was 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.160 cold outside, and I actually looked up an almanac, um 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.360 that said when it's cold outside in January three, that 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.040 means the year is going to be perfect. Yeah. I 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.360 read that too, and it was so touch and go there, 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.200 because you know, you never know January three, if it's 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.400 going to be cold or tropical every year, it's a 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.800 real mystery. And and I did read that, and you know, 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.720 people say, oh, don't believe in that stuff, but um, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:19.799 this was actually uh. Anthony Fauci said this. He said, 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.080 if it's cold on January three, it's gonna be If 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.520 it's cold on January three, then this year is going 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.919 to be a sleigh and a half Mauma. And he 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.919 said that in an op ed for The New York Times. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:36.120 You know, we started saying malma, trying to overpronounce malma, 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.680 and now I can't say it normal. I have to 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:44.080 Jamie Lee. It's like Jamie Lee curtisying trauma in that video. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:49.000 That's how we are with Mauma. Yes, Mama, yes, Mauma. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.600 Um I okay. So predictions for the new year. I 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.040 think it's gonna be sort of like I think it's 0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:00.639 gonna all over again. No one has any problems everyone's 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:05.560 like bank accounts are chock full. Um, there's no such 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.880 thing as taxes. They've decided to do away with them. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.679 And um, yeah, it's everyone's going to have sort of 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.600 a subtropical year. Um, but without the precipitation. Right, it's subtropical. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.400 But it's not like because of global warming. It's because 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:26.120 the vibes are good. Yeah. Um. If we can bring 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.280 it back to the present day, the year in which 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.800 we are currently recording, I think it's important to address 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.440 that we're both cranky. Yes, we're both cranky. Um, but 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.160 you know what, though earlier today I was thinking back 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.000 to something that made me really smile, and I was like, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.960 you know what if you feel like you're getting cranky, 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.160 which I was just think back to that what what 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:52.600 what made you smile? So I told you this, uh, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.320 like a couple of weeks ago, and it happened. But 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:59.120 it was when I had that substitute yoga instructor and 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:03.200 he was sort of Uh. I would say, not, um, 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.200 what you would normally maybe assume as someone with biases 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.040 would be a yoga instruct He was a thirteen year 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:14.960 old boy. Yeah yeah, and he was really fucked up 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.480 looking kept talking about roadblocks. Yeah, it was. Um. He 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.760 was a he was a sort of older gentleman. He 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.440 was maybe close to sixty. Um. And he himself said, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.080 just so that everyone can picture what I'm explaining, what 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.320 I'm talking about, he himself said that he's been told 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.440 he looks like William H. Macy, so that's sort of 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.560 what you can picture. Um. And I and he seemed, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.320 you know, he had really good vibes, and I was like, wow, 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.480 I wonder if this guy is like a straight guy 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.880 that was into Buddhism in the eighties, Like that's the 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.120 sort of vibe, or if he's like an older gay 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.280 guy who was doing this on the side and I 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.160 couldn't crack it. I couldn't crack it. And he was, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.960 you know, he talked in a sort of neutral voice, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.440 so I couldn't tell if he if you know, which 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:59.040 which way he swung. Um to go back, of course. 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.480 And so then about fifteen twenty minutes of the class, 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.000 a song started and he said, Florence in the Machine. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:15.560 I'm obsessed in. That moment just really brought me back 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.880 to the holiday spirit on a day when I wasn't 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:22.159 in it. Yeah, that is so powerful, Is there anything more. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.760 I mean, if and if you're in a bad mood now, 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.320 I know, January three can feel sort of like a 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.960 colm down because it's no longer than you it's no 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.760 longer New Year's Day, and it's no longer the day 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:35.360 after Year's Day, where still um sort of new. I mean, 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.159 it's basically just a Tuesday. Yeah, I don't know. The 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.000 New year actually kind of always does it for me. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.960 It like really does make me feel like, you know what, 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.000 let's restart, like that all of that year didn't count 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.839 and I it's I am grateful to always have naive 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.120 optimism and be like, you know what, fuck it, this 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.080 is the best year of my life starting now. Do 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.559 you have that more with New Year's or with your birthday? Oh? God, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:05.000 New Year's because it feels more like, um, I like 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.840 being among the people, you know, I like being like 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.560 we can all have this um When when it's my birthday, 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.880 it's more like like it's sort of like, okay, so 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.280 what did I Like? It's very personal, like what did 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.120 I do in the last year? In one way, that's 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.400 like that doesn't really feel good to just examine yourself 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.480 in isolation. No, you have to examine the whole world. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.159 And and also you know, to think that your own 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.880 birthday is in your beginning is very Messiah complex, like 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.200 well you're not, You're not Jesus No. And also like 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.359 do you make like birthday resolutions? If so, Like I 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.040 can't imagineing more toxic. I actually get a tree for 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.880 my birthday and the presence under every year. That's crazy. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.720 Everybody's seeing old Lang sign. Oh wow. Yeah, well you 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.919 came up with Christmas carols for your birthday that have 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.120 the same tune of normal Christmas carols, but they're all 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.880 like Sam Sam, Sam Sam. Yeah, I made I paid 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.960 Spotify one billion dollars so they could do a rapt 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:07.360 for me every time it's my birthday. Well, happy New Year, Sam, 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.440 Happy New Year, George. It's gonna be I really do 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.360 think it's gonna be a good one. Yeah, I've got 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.120 a really good feeling about it. Me too. I think 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:23.400 us being cranky on December is a sign that the 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.480 new year is actually gonna be better, because um, it's 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:31.040 like that thing where like one time I was listening 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.840 to a comedy podcast and they were talking about how 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.600 like they were filming like a late night set and 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.880 they bombed their their show right before the late night set, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.040 and how that's actually a good sign because it means 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.560 you're actually gonna crush the late night set, of course. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.880 And so I actually feel that way about um my 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:53.680 mood right now. We're the show you can sort of 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.800 if you can just flop flop, flop over and over again, 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.800 that means at some point you're gonna slay. Hey, nowhere 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.600 to go but up, nowhere to go but up? And 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.440 that has never been more true, sweetie. I don't know, 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:12.000 I actually kind of feel like our crankiness is coming 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.880 through too much. Is that bad? Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.480 That was that my fault? No, no, no, it's my 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.120 I think it's I don't. I think it's a mutual. Well, 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.840 here's what here, here's what I will say. When we 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.880 are in the mindset of it being January three, it's 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.840 not coming across. But then when we go back to 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.280 is coming across. So really, all of us, all three 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:35.360 of us, have to be January three. I am, I 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.439 am January three. This is the face of January three. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.480 This it really is like you actually can access the 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:47.360 January three within you at any given time. Hey, Hey, 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.320 you know what, I always say, it's January three somewhere, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:55.160 and sheers to that. Hey I'll drink to that. Oh oh, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:59.240 I've been drinking this whole time. I'm black. Oh well, 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.640 you already did say let's bring in, said the three 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.160 of us. So I think it's time. Yeah, it's time, 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:08.840 It's time. It's the Chekov's guest, the classic scenario where 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.440 two podcast hosts have to bring in one podcast guest 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.040 after doing a bit about it being January three, read 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:19.120 about it in books, and so, without further ado, it 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:26.160 is my pleasure, honor, and delight to welcome to the 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:34.960 stage Richard Perez. Hi, Hi, January three. So how's your 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.280 it is? Literally it's oh my god, Oh my god, Hi, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.600 oh my god. George said, how is your New Year's 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.559 You still have glitter on you from the parson. Oh 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:48.720 my god. I had the best time ever. I was 0:09:48.920 --> 0:10:00.680 with a lot of people with my friends. Haven't fun? Yeah? 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:09.040 And it felt really good. Oh yeah, we just absolutely 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:14.280 hanging yeah, good morning here, like please fill this island. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:19.480 It was fun. Richard. I'm going to ask you something 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.040 and if you don't want to do it, you say 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.080 no and we'll cut up that I asked, you, do 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:32.400 you want to debut Pelley? You know what? Yeah, okay, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.920 but I can't. I can't take the credit. Wait, I 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:40.480 thought it was you know, it was Charlie, but no, no, no, 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:44.720 Charlie texted me about it out of the blue, and 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.959 then I was like, I'm on board. I want to 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.400 sign up for this project. And then we went to 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:53.920 two parties this weekend and I debuted it with the 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.520 help of charl Like. I was like, Charlie, come on, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.000 because I'm sorry to say this, but you know we 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.559 were Sam and I were at one of those or 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.720 at least one of those parties, and I could have sworn. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.960 I asked who owns it? And you said you did? 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.880 But maybe I must remember. No, I don't know. I don't. Um. Well, 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.640 I have a question, Richard. Would you define your friend 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:20.600 Charlie Barday as a litigious person? What does that word mean? 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.960 Is he going to find ways to pursue legal action? Now? 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:32.240 If you debut Pelly without him? My instinct says no, okay, okay, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.400 I don't think he'd be upset with me. I don't 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.040 think so. Well, I'm not worried about it if he 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.200 gets upset I'm worried if he get if he gets legal, 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.680 if he gets legal. Yeah, well you know what if 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.760 it gets legal, if he gets legal, I am saying 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:50.800 on the record, on the record, if Charlie Barday two 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.719 time two time Straighter Lab guests and one time Lab 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.520 should text him, should it be like would you be 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.960 upset if I said Pelly on the If he is upset, 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.199 I've promised we will have him back on and hear 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:09.960 his side of the story. Pelly, So, Richard, what is Pelly? 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:16.840 Pelly is essentially um Literally, Charlie texted me out of 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.680 the blue. We both had a hundred degree fevers, we 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.200 had the flu at the same time, and he just 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.360 texted me out of the blue and was like, instead 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.800 of period, I'm gonna start saying Pelly, just out of 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.120 the blue. I was like, I was like, I'm I'm 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.000 a I want to do it. You were like Pelly. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.280 And then so it really is that simple. It's just 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.880 you know, you say something someone's like instead of pere, 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.960 however you say period, just say Pelly. Just say Pelly. Yeah. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.080 And so a sort of an example where you would 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.000 use it in a sentence is just like it's really 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:57.760 cold out today, Pelly, and so you have been you know, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.520 this started and now you're sort of making it happen. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:07.120 How has that journey gone? Um? Right, it's been. I've 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.360 gotten a few texts, like messages from friends being like 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.840 what is Pally? And I can tell they feel vulnerable 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.680 asking yeah, And even one friend was all right, my 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.960 coworker today, like I said it to him. Now I 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.920 say it without realizing I'm doing it. And so we 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.680 were just like talking, I don't even know, I don't 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.000 even know what I said. And I was like Pally 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:34.200 and then he was like Pally and then he was 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.280 like he started laughing and that He's like, you know, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.960 to be honest, what is that? And then he told 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.240 me he like googled it, he was like researching. He 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.040 was like upset. He didn't know what that meant. He's like, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.920 I'm out of the loop. I don't know what that is. Okay, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.200 this is though, how I mean what I love about this? God, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.160 It's just you know, so often something like on Fleet 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.120 for instance, you know, it's like there's a viral video 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.360 and then it catches on from there. But this is 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:05.040 really ground up, like this whole grassroots, grassroots, like even Charlie, 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.120 someone who someone who is very active on the Internet, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.240 who who of course goes on about it. Yeah, but 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.360 he's like he decided in texted just you his close 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.880 friend because he knew that I blab. Yeah, he knew. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.000 And neither of you. When I really appreciate about this 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.920 is that neither of you really ever defined it in 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.280 any written way or online, like you really are just 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.040 like we're gonna start saying it. We're gonna start saying 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.880 it and people will catch on because it's ultimately not 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.600 that complicated. It's not at all like like yeah, we 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.240 we we were talking about it on Sunday. We were like, 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.960 what if we just literally like I don't know, like 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.640 we make something like in the New Year, like and 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.240 we just sneak it in there and like don't even 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:52.960 give it not like we're just like I don't know, 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.520 like if him and I are like doing a video 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.320 or something, and then our characters are just like saying 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:02.400 like we're just like and that not even the Yeah, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.560 so like I think I'm gonna call the car. Like 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.520 it's like the video is about like how someone has 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.360 a third ear in the back of their head and 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.440 they're like not me having a third ear and then 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.280 the other one's like Pally and then they just go 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:23.600 like just keep sneaking it in or something. It really 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.480 speaks to your ability as a performer, um to just 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.640 make something infectious. Because I'm really liking this whole process 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.800 where you know, Charlie wrote and of course executive produced 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.480 the project, and you are, you know, taking down on 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.280 the road. You're you're testing out in small rooms and 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.920 then yeah, exactly bigger rooms, you know, and just it's 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.160 just really taking off in this way. I feel the 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.080 movement because I even feel myself like like I don't 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:51.640 want to say it on this podcast because I want 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.520 to practice it in the mirror before I do. And 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.120 I'm like, totally I feel the same one. Don't overthink it. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.960 It's so simple, you know what. I think every time 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:01.960 I've said it so far, I have really forced it. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.080 And I'm like, I can't wait for a natural. I 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.440 can't wait for a natural. By the end of this podcast, 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.520 there will be a natural place where I will say, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:15.120 Pey feels so good, thank you. I was, I was 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:21.200 feeling it right then. So would you say Charlie is 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.160 sort of the Jack Antonov and you're the Taylor Swift 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.280 like he you know you he executive produced it, came 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:33.360 up with it, but it's up to you, and you're 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.080 you know, maybe you, as a blonde woman, are more 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:42.280 relatable to the average to the average American. Honestly, you were, yeah, 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.360 maybe I'll say yes, like you're touring because it's like, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.480 well it sounds it sounds like coming out of your mouth. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:54.920 It feels right, sounds it feels right. But yeah, and 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.560 like I actually think it will really help Charlie because 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.480 like I remember like his solo project and he like 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.440 had that word that he made up called like no 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.399 One Keeper Swanky Monkeys. Oh yeah, he actually did make 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:13.320 up swinky and you know keep was his bleachers right exactly. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:20.639 It was like and it was like, yeah, like that's good, 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.840 Like sure, like some people really like keeper Swinky. But 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.960 like it's like Pelly is like he's like taking this 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.800 like bigger role in like more of that territorial way, 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.400 and it's like you're really seeing his taste and like 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:38.200 it's just and Pelly is simpler, like more people are 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.119 gonna I mean, okay, so no one keepers showing key 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:49.000 means nevertheless keepers, right, That's that's like did vocals on that, right, 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.879 he did vocals on it, and he and he did 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.800 like yeah, and it was like good, like people do 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.479 like it, but like not as many, you know what 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.960 I mean, like quite simple pure people are going to 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.600 want to say nevertheless, you persisted in like an iranic way. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.959 Then then are gonna want to say period in conversation. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:16.720 R wow, wow. I um, I'm just so honored that 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.560 he Yeah, I'm just so honored he like knew that 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:25.080 my voice would fit his project. Yeah, and you're you know, 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:30.240 you're a relatively new artist. Yeah, so to trust you 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.359 with that, to trust you with that, and to say, like, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.040 you know, she might not be a household name yet, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:41.359 but I can't imagine someone else having Palely like I can't. 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.399 It can't be h you know, it can't be an 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:50.320 Eliza's lessing, can't be a John Mullaney like yes, you 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:59.320 know of course being like Pally like yeah, you know, yes, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.000 John Mlae, Like sure, John Maliney can sell anything. He's huge, 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.480 like he can go around and tour and and and 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:11.280 spread pelly. But like it wouldn't it wouldn't be special, right, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.000 It wasn't the same impact, and it would feel forced, 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.080 it would feel ful right, it would be so like manufactured. 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.320 And that's why I mean, that is why Charlie is 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.119 like Jack Antonov is because he thought of this with you. 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.840 It's like Jack Antonov writes different things for Lana and 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.920 does for Tailor than he does Lord A little. No, yeah, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:38.159 definitely question very Lord. And Pelly is giving lay and 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.280 not just because it sounds like you're speaking in New Zealand, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:48.520 answered Pelly. Hell, I can I read the text. On 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:55.600 Thursday PM, Charlie texted me. When I say Pelly, I 0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:07.800 mean period and I said, ha, No, that's fucking cute though, Pelly, Well, 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.840 I told Charlie. I texted Charlie, I think Pelly is 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:15.080 going to become the new Bench like that that is 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.840 the level of because Bench. Here's the thing with Bench, 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:20.800 I mean, much like a lot of Jack Entnot's work, 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.359 it is both it's both indie and mainstream, Like do 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.720 you know what I mean. It's like it's sort of 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.159 Carly ray Jepson Like it's like it's indie enough to 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.920 have a cool factor, but it's mainstream enough that like, yes, 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:39.560 Taylor Swift could cover it for Tiny Dog. Oh my god. Wow. 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.000 So like John Laney could say it. John Laney could 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.280 definitely say it. But here's the thing. But when he does, 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.280 then people will be like, Okay, I guess Pelly's over. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.560 Well some you know, we will be, but like, there 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.080 will be a lot of people that will be like 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:57.640 wearing Pelly shirts at that point. That's true. I mean, 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.520 there will be like keep common Pelly. There will be 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:09.119 like sorry, keep coming on. There will be like, you know, 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.119 sort of um. I mean, I hate to say it 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:13.840 because this is not my story to tell, but there 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.040 will be feminine products that use Pelly to mean the 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:23.840 other kind of period and that. UM. I just think 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.160 what was so amazing about the rollout of this product 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:32.320 is the um you really created sort of an exclusiveness 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.840 that made people, you know, feel like they're on the 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.480 outside and in a way that really makes them want 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.600 to to understand Pelly. It really makes them want to 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:46.000 be able to perform it themselves exactly. Um. I found. 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.680 I mean when we were at this party a few 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.399 days ago and I was across the room and I 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.800 think I was even you know, maybe walking over to 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.440 your section and hadn't even been to your section of 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.320 the party yet, so you know, I was already feeling 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:04.440 mothered in many ways off. Yeah, and so you um, actually, 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.520 as a group, ILL looked at me and said, Sam, 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.320 say Pelly, and I said, I don't know what that means, 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.159 and you said, just say it, just say Pelly. And 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:20.960 then I said Kelly, and then everyone goes and no. 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.880 It felt it really felt um middle school bully, sort 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.600 of back of the bus vibes, but in a way 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:33.199 that triggered such an emotional response that I said, I 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.640 will never from this point on, I will never not 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:38.800 know what Pelly is. Yeah, um for better or work 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:42.359 sometimes you need to do those tactics. The marketing is 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:47.000 just very genius. Yeah, the marketing, marketing. And I think Sam, 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.400 you're pointing to such an important part of Pelly, which 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.680 is it sounds exclusive, but as soon as you figure 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:57.399 it's so obvious, it's like it's not like there's nothing complicated, 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.680 and so it's really kind of in that way poptimist. 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:14.360 M m hm m hmmm. And Pelly helly Lly, Pellylly 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:24.520 just like so like yeah, Belly, Kelly, so like proud 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:28.320 of yourself. Yeah, proud of yourself for like punctuating whatever 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:41.400 your statement was. Yeah, Pelly, Belly should we do our 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.359 first segment and just know in our hearts that Pelly 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.720 will come back. Yeah. And I also just want to say, George, 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.080 thank you for bringing up Pelly. Yeah, I think, thank 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.479 you so much. And if Charlie does get upset with 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:57.920 me on January third, he probably won't because he'll be 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.640 in a good mood I think in jail, right, it's 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:06.520 the new year. To Charlie's credit, this is the third 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.920 time we talked extensively about him on this podcast when 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.960 he has not been here. It's true, so I could see, 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.040 you know, at some point it's sort of like, Okay, 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.960 what's your guys deal? Like, you know, like I could 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:24.920 see him like reaching a breaking point. Yeah, I keep 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:29.359 talking about me like I don't know what's so freaking 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.600 funny about me, Like I'm just a guy, and like 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:36.119 even like your friend, I'm just writing words. Yeah. And 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.280 by the way, I mean, I do want to say, Richard, 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.639 you know you had and I'm not saying this to 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:42.920 blame you in any way, but thank you. There's a 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.159 sort of machiavellian you know, you you had the chance 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.000 to not debut Pelley if you wanted to really chicken 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.119 with Charlie. And you know, maybe when he was on 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:56.239 a groundbreaking, critically acclaimed comedy podcast, he could have done 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:58.960 it himself. But I know I saw it in your eyes, 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.480 like you're like, I'm a star, I have the spotlight 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.680 on me now, I'm not going to let this moment pass. 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.680 What just so I could maintain a friendship, That's not 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:11.719 what this is. No. I thought it so amazing that 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.560 you showed like this like Hollywood like cutthroat like mindset 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.080 sort of like like that's what we're really looking for 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:22.600