1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: You know, He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's what 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations Here we come. 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I am your host, ram 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: of success. For some ins ascizable paycheck. Mine is helping 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: people wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: and live their very best life. These are my passions 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: and that's what we try to do on Money Making Conversations. 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: I want you to stop tripping over small challenges and 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: prepared to rise above the bigger obstacles that life will 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: present to you. My next guest, Call Hall, is born 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee. I'm Houston Texans Boys. So she's kind 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: of South to me. Calor Hall grew up surrounded by 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: soul food. So did I. Six sisters, two brothers. Okay. 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: When time came from her, you know, sold foods all 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: over my house. When the time came for her to 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: select her career path, she first opted for a business route. 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: She graduated from Howard Universities Business School and worked as 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: an accountant for two years before deciding to switch gears 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: to work as a runway model. Today, she's a trained chef, 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: another major shift shift who has worked in several professional 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: restaurant kitchens in and around the Watching DC area, and 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: is an accomplished television personality and author. She's on the 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: show today to talk about the Food Networks Holiday Baking Championship. 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: What Caller Is a Judge is currently airing November through 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: December on the Food Network, and we also be discussing 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: callers new podcast, Say Yes There's Weekly that she has 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: launched in mid September. Now the table is set. Please 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: welcome to money making Conversations. Call A Hall Low Hell, Hey, come, 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I said the table? Did Did I not set the table? 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: Answer that the table? I was like, Wow, I saw 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: myself coming to the double doors that you got all 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: of the food on the table, and then the my 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: seat awaited for me. I was like, no, no, no, 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: no no, the seat was being pulled out for you 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: because you're a lady. You're all lady, and you're gonna 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: be eased into the table. And now we're gonna talk 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: about your life a little bit, what you're doing currently, 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: but more importantly, you know, on money making conversations, I 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: always talk about people about not allowing fear to stop 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: your dreams and then also not being shifted in one 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: direction because you've told that's where you should go. Because 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: my degree is in mathematics. So when you said your 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: degree and when you still worked as an accountant, I 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: worked at IBM and so but so when I decided 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: to pursue a career as a stand up comedian, people 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: looked at me like, hood, that doesn't make any sense 54 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: to me. So let's talk about the early years when 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: you went to how Why do you chose to go 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: to Howard? And then when you went into Fresh and 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: World as an account well, you know a lot of 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: people may or may not be surprised. I accounting wasn't 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: my first choice. I wanted to do theater, so I, um, 60 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: I from twelve to seventeen, I did theater. I thought 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: that's what I was going to do. And then I 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: didn't get into the one school that I wanted to 63 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: go to, which was Boston University. And at that point, 64 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: my sister was going to Howard. One of her friends 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: was going to Howard. And I was like, all right, 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: I guess I major in accounting because I liked my 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: accounting teacher, and I will go to Howard because that's 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: where my sister's going. I didn't put a lot of 69 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: thought into it, and um until later on. I so 70 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: when I was an account and I was like, I 71 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: don't like this. You know, I had why didn't you 72 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: like it? You know what? You know? And it's so 73 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: funny that you asked that because I was saying I 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: don't like it, But people weren't saying why don't you 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: like it? They were like, you have a good job. 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: They weren't even asking me if I liked it. And 77 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't wake up and do this 78 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: until I am forty and beyond. And that was my 79 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: biggest fear. I I felt like I was dying creatively. 80 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: I felt like I wasn't I was. I was really 81 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: down going to work and stressed, and I was like, 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: I felt like, this can't be what my life is 83 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: supposed to be about. And um, I was afraid not 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: of leaving my job, but I was afraid of being 85 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: forty and hating my job and becoming like the status 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: quote person who's just working to get a paycheck. That 87 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: was my biggest fear. And and and so the runway 88 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: model because you mentioned by theater. You mentioned going to 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: how would you want to go to Boston University? But 90 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned nothing about being a Marvel would you say 91 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: a theater? Yeah? Well I did the fashion shows at 92 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: Howard and if anybody has been to the homecoming or 93 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: the uh like the spring fashion show or the Homecoming 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: fashion show. The fashion shows were a big thing and 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: I and I did them as in my senior year 96 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: at Howard. And so when I moved to Tampa, Florida 97 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: and I was working at price warda house, Um, you know, 98 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: I met these girls who were modeling. They were like, 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: do you model? Like, well, I've modeled in school. And 100 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: it became a way to meet people. So that's what 101 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: I started doing when I was in Tampa, Florida. When 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: I said, I hated my job. These girls were moving 103 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: to Paris. I'm like, oh wait a minute, don't leave 104 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: me here. So I'm not staying here, so right, not 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: in Tampa, sorry Tampa, um. But I decided to leave 106 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: and that became. That became my journey of what I 107 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: knew I didn't want to do and what I actually 108 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: wanted to do. And modeling wasn't the thing that I 109 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: wanted to do. It was just a bridge, and so 110 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: I was open to what was on the other side. Okay, cool, 111 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Let's let's track her life so far. Team. She really 112 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: wanted to be theory. Between twelve and seventeen, she went 113 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: to Howard and sister went to Howard. She got a 114 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: degree in business school at Howard, and then she got 115 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: a career in accounting at Price Waterhouse and she got 116 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: into modeling. And then the option of Tampa versus Parish Paris. 117 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: Want Okay, now, now we're about to make that other 118 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: shift food because she hadn't mentioned it at all. I 119 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: love our storytelling because you know, you have to do 120 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: research and call up because otherwise she's about and she 121 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: will make a transition on you. You go, okay, okay, 122 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: Modeling o can you see it theater earlier? Well, you know, 123 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I was just hanging out and just you know, doing 124 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: they're doing Howard doing a whole coming. You know, I 125 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: do modeling here and there. You know, then without I 126 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: love talking to gifted people because gifted people they take 127 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: everything for granted. Okay, well that's the problem. I could 128 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: say why why why shouldn't I have a CD? I 129 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: could wrap why schuldn't have a rap out because you're gifted? Okay, 130 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: So now she listened to this gifted person Twitter seventeenth 131 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: theater couldn't get in Boston, so she ditt how and 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: how is not the not the easy school to get into? 133 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: As well as in business school, so she didn't go 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: there just hanging out. She with the business school and 135 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: how if anybody knows about HBCUs one of the top colleges, 136 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: the top, I would say HBC in the country. Okay. Now, 137 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: so now she's in Parish, I guess you know, because 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: she's telling this story. I'm just interrupted her. She's talking. 139 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: I did the food coming. I love you recap. I 140 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: love the recap. So the food came in and a 141 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: lot of people like it. It's an oxymoron. Models and food. U. 142 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: I was there thin and I love food is not 143 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: associated with skinny people. You know, it's a thin that's 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: just models. You don't think about food. And that's what 145 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You're so funny, your your bio. And it 146 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: was so much information being said to me. I would like, wow, food, 147 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: now she's a model, tell us a story caller. When 148 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: I went there, I didn't know I had ten words 149 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: of French. I had one telephone number of a friend 150 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: of a friend of a friend who knew my mom, 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: and so when I got there, I didn't call her, 152 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: probably for the first week that I was there. And 153 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: um and I remember going to a Petitioneri and ordering 154 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: a croissant. I don't mean at the time, I didn't 155 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: eat ham and I was like uncle, uncle sanduvas we 156 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: were playing and a woman was like, uh croissant, said 157 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: un croissant, day, uh croissant. I'm like, oh my god, 158 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna starve here to be able to like speak 159 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: the language to get the food. And so I'm like, 160 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: come and so I could say ham, so I could 161 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: put him, which so that that was my first entree 162 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: into Paris, and I was staying in Um a room 163 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: that it was a four four story climb up. I 164 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: couldn't even stand up. I'm six ft tall. The ceiling 165 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: was at an angle, so I couldn't even really stand 166 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: up in the uh in the room. But so eventually 167 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: I met this I met this woman who was um, um, 168 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm got Ross and Johnson. Oh my god, I'm my 169 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: really good friends ROSM. Johnson and all of the models 170 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: would go to this woman's house name Elaine Emmons, who 171 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 1: was from Memphis, Tennessee, and she would have these brunches 172 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: and it was incredible. It was like the Sunday supper 173 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: at my grandmother's house. It was amazing. And all of 174 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: these American models, most of them were black. They were 175 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: making macaroni and cheese and and if they found the 176 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: turnip tops, they would do turn up grains and the 177 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: afalo wings. And I was like, what, oh we were 178 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: this is all we had back like back at all, 179 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: you know, you know, Sunday supper. And so they were 180 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: all talking about when my mother does macaroni like this, 181 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: when my mother doesn't like this, and I realized I 182 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: had no idea. I had no idea how the macaroni 183 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: and cheese was made. I didn't cook um, and I 184 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: started going to the American bookstore and buying cookbooks because 185 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: I had time and I wanted to contribute to the 186 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Sunday suppers, and so I started making soups, I started 187 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: doing quick breads. I was just buying cookbooks that I 188 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: just I just kept doing it. And that became this 189 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: way that I would thank people for letting me um 190 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: live on their couch. Because once I moved out of 191 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: the um, out of the pensione, I started staying with people, 192 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: and cooking became away. Uh, to show gratitude. Right. You know. 193 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: Paris and first of all was one of my favorite 194 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: cities ever. Get a chance to go to Paris. Please go. 195 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: They have a large, uh I say, African American community. Uh, 196 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: they are Especially during the war, a lot of people 197 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: noticed a lot of the black military men stayed there 198 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: because they felt that it wasn't a racist environment that 199 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: they were living in. And so so if you go there, 200 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: it's just a really cool place, great food, great atmosphere. 201 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: But more importantly, it fits your personality. Because I know 202 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Paris and because you have a big personality, caller, and 203 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: that's a compliment because of the fact that you know, 204 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: you know, now I understand the theater background because your 205 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: eyes are so lively and so your eyes tell such 206 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: a great story when you speak and when you when 207 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: when you talk about food, not not kind of understand 208 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: who you are a little bit more because I like, 209 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: she is so big and she you command the room, 210 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: and all that comes from the fact that you know 211 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: theater background, modeling, You lived in Paris, and you just 212 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: a person who really is loves of food that you 213 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: kind of you you're a self talk chef. I'm assuming then, right, Well, 214 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: I was self taught up until party and then after 215 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: having my own um lunch delivery service, which started as 216 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: a fluke, and I did that for five years. Then 217 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: I went to culinary school. I went to culinary school 218 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: at thirty. So again recap, y'all, Okay, we do a 219 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: recap on call? Okay, Twitter, recapp She's a beautiful person, 220 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: beautiful Twitter. Seventeen theater went to Howard. Really wanted to 221 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: go to Boston, but wound up going to Holler because 222 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: her system went there, you know, did some some kind 223 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: of modeling, and so I went through towards some kind 224 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: of modeling in how University, went down to Camp has 225 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: some friends who are modeling. They wanted to go to Paris. 226 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: She said, hey, you not leave me across Waterhoff. I 227 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: want to follow you all the Paris with the Paris 228 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: hung out. We're doing very successful jobs on the run road. 229 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: But she's six ft tall. In the room she lived there, 230 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: she had to walk around his angle because she's angle 231 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: because she was too tall. So she moved. She was 232 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: she moved out and she's living on sofa. So she 233 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: learned how to cook from a cookbook. Didn't the thirty 234 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: She made another transition culinary school. Now she's officially a 235 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: chef in the way because she's learned, she has degree. 236 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: She she can tell people like me, I'm not an official. 237 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: I can just cook. I can just bake, but nothing 238 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: official tied to my name. So now, my friend, you're 239 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: coming to my life. On you that's when I first 240 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: recognized you as a talent, recognized you as a person. 241 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: I loved recognizing you as a person. That when I 242 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: watch you, I couldn't take my eyes off of you. 243 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: So now we're moving even fast forward. And I actually 244 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: met you at the Circular Sisters in New York City. 245 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: I was up there. Yeah, you use up there doing, 246 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, use on the big stage, because she'll start 247 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: the stars get the big stage. You know, I'm in 248 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: the back room, Shan over here. I got some sweeper 249 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: tato pies over here, if y'all want to look at them. 250 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: I started, don't don't get it twisted. I started on 251 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: and so so now we move forward to the Food 252 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: Network and I'm watching you, you know, first of all, 253 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: watching the promos and you have these we were talking 254 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: about the Halloween Baking Championship and before we get to 255 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: the holiday and holiday start on November nine and on 256 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: the Food Network. Okay, uh, now you have all these costumes. 257 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: Talk about the costumes and the amount of time it 258 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: took to prepare for these different costumes on the holiday. 259 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Sean that the the team, 260 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: they the wardrobe, makeup, and hair. It is so fantastic. 261 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: And they will say, okay, these are the costumes because 262 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: they designed the costumes around the things of the show. 263 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: But when we get there, uh, the host and I 264 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: we have a lot of input like how to embellish 265 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: and how to make that costume our own, and a 266 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: lot of times it becomes integrating my glasses and then 267 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: integrating something about my hair. But oh my god, they 268 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: are talented. They are talented. So year, because I was 269 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: the host, I didn't have the three hours to really 270 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: get into hair and makeup in the costume like I 271 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: normally would. So Jackie mcguito, who does my makeup, she 272 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: was having to do my makeup in like forty five minutes, 273 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: which was fast for her and also because of COVID, 274 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: So we were filming this in August, which we were 275 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: one of the first productions to go back to work 276 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: post COVID, and so they didn't want us to be 277 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: it was like outside masks shield, you know, with the 278 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: makeup artists, and so they didn't want us to be 279 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: around people so intimately like we would normally would be. 280 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: And so that that also added another element of uh, 281 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: just speed to the costumes. But I love I have 282 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: to tell you that Halloween Bacon Championship has almost enlightened 283 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: and made me more excited about Halloween. But my Halloween 284 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: is always in July or August, and so when we 285 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: get to October, heep, like, what are you gonna dress 286 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: up you? I love you, I love your costumes. Somebody 287 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: don't already did that? Like I'm on to the spring. Now. 288 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: The thing I love about it this I loved about 289 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: the you host in the show, and it kind of 290 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: matched your career in the sense, you know, it was theatrical. 291 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: You got to be big, You got the model. You 292 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got the model, and then 293 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: you have to It was food and and so it was. 294 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: It was. It was like a journey from the age 295 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: of twelve, going through your through your mid twenties to 296 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: you when you went to your colony school at the 297 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: age of thirty. This you now that showed to me 298 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: is like living your life of what you people look back, 299 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: You are so right, You're so I loved it, and 300 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: I know I missed John Hanson. Everybody missed John Hanson. 301 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: But I had so much fun. I was like I 302 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: was pinching myself every night. I would go back to 303 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: my room, like I can't believe I get to do this. 304 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: I can't believe I get to do this. I'm having 305 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: so much fun. And I just kept saying, I hope 306 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: the audience will accept me having fun this year, you know, 307 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: because people don't like change, and I get it. But 308 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: I had so much fun. You were fantastic. You were fantastic, 309 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: and the and the and the thing about it this 310 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: show is it's a little bit different from the most 311 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: just a known fact. The most watch videos on social 312 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: media or food videos, recipe videos. People love food on 313 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: social media, YouTube channels. They love it. Now watching this 314 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: show is a little bit different because it's almost craft. 315 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: You're watching designers. You the food is important, but the 316 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: design and the layout. Now this this, this show came 317 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: down to three people, Aaron Renee and Tonight Tonight and 318 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: and so I was stunned by the winner. You know, 319 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: talk to us about that. It's already aired, you know, 320 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: But I was actually stunned by the window because see 321 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: what what what I learned about the show, It's not 322 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: about what you've done up to that point. It's your 323 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: final meal. That's what that was about. Take away, your 324 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: final dessert, your final take. So so that one was 325 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: so stunning because I had, you know, I was operating 326 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: on a on a on a journey. I was operating 327 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: with done this, done this, done this, but here what 328 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: but what what? She she got it, she got it. 329 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: But you guys went no talk to me about how 330 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: you guys came to that decision on based on a 331 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: body of work versus a single dessert. You we we 332 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: don't do a body of work. It's not cumulative. It 333 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: has to be because you have to be able to 334 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: give that person like Aaron hadn't really won, right, and 335 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: so Aaron has to be able to come in and 336 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: do and have the stability of winning, just like Renee 337 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: and Tonight. So it has to be that challenge. And 338 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you we went back and forth. But 339 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: Tonight's cake, oh so good. It was. It was the 340 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: kind of cake that when you tasted it, it melted 341 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: in your mouth and everything, the texture, the flavors, it 342 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: was subtle, perfect and it is so hard too. But 343 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: then Renee has these beautiful creations. When you look at 344 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: her work, the upside down cake was been tastic. It 345 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: was fantastic, and so what we were also And then Aaron, Aaron, 346 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Aaron had a beautiful cake too, and the layers and 347 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: the flavors. And I think that Aaron grew so much 348 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: as a a baker in the show and getting out 349 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: of his head and and really allowing himself to express 350 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: and to execute um design wise what was in his 351 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: head and matching it with his flavors. But it's a 352 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: nice cake. It was so delicious, it was. And so 353 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: one of the things that we that we really like 354 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: to say to the audience in the day and age 355 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: of of Instagram where everything is visual, that trusts us 356 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: that we are here tasting it. And I'm not saying 357 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: that Renee's cake was bad. It wasn't it was it 358 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: was it was good. It was good. The nice cake 359 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: was great. Perfect, That's what. That's what. That's what Stephanie said. Perfect. 360 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: This is perfect. And so when I mean so that 361 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: was the standard for Rashan McDonald, I stun it. But 362 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: now we start the Holiday Baking Championship which starts November two, 363 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: which is a money nine pm Eastern, nine pm Pacific, 364 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: eight eight pm Central. Tell us about that. You are 365 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: a judge, you are a host on the the Halloween 366 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: Baking Championship, on the Holiday Baking Chimp. You are tell 367 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: us about what to expect. Come on now every Monday, y'all, 368 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: every Monday. This is my first time actually being on 369 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: the Holiday Baking Championship. This is my first time working 370 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: with Nancy Puller and Duff Goldman and which was fantastic 371 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: and it's hosted by Jesse Palmer. We had such a 372 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: great time. I had the best time. First of all 373 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: with Nancy. I feel like we are the same people. 374 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: We look completely different, but you know she we are 375 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: twins and it was it was crazy. We it was 376 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: like a play date. First of all, when you want 377 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: us to have fun, because once we're having fun in 378 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: the background, the fun will continue. Um in the show. 379 00:21:53,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: Yees yea twenty five thou dollars and let me let 380 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: me ask you just call them by you and baking 381 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: and judging, because you know, I felt a little you know, 382 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: you're you're you're you're interested. You know you want to 383 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: be fair, but you don't want to be harsh. That's 384 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: what's my takeaway when I watched these shows with you, 385 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: because you know, some of these judges can be down 386 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: right just no whatever, you know, but these people have 387 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: to go home, they have to live a life. And 388 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: you guys are all stars. You know, you guys are 389 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: the top of the top of the food chain when 390 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: you're giving your opinions. So but I'm my take away 391 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: from you when I watch you on these shows like 392 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: you you you listen to what I did judge, just 393 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: say sometime I'm not saying this is just what you'a. 394 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm watching you and you go it's I'm gonna go, 395 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: that was a little too hard. Let me let me 396 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: just say a little bit different, and and and and 397 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: give these people some spirit when they go back to 398 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: the back into the kitchen. Am I reading you right? 399 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: You are reading me completely right? I mean I competed 400 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: on top seve I've been in their shoes. So because 401 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: I have been in their shoes, I learned so much 402 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: from being a competitor. And I learned from the judges. 403 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: And so the one thing that I my takeaway was 404 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: I may never be in front of the judges again. 405 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to learn as much as I 406 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: can during this experience. And so as a judge, I 407 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: want to be constructive. I don't want to break your spirit. 408 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I want to build you up, but I also want 409 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: to give you enough to learn so that when you 410 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: come back, you take my feedback, you add that feedback 411 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: to your to whatever you're doing, and you come back 412 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: stronger and better. If this is the last time you 413 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: see me, then you go home to your business or whatever, 414 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: and you take this feedback to to get better, right, 415 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: and you do a great job. I dude, I'm talking 416 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: to Carl the Hall. You know, we just wrapped up 417 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: talking about her career, which is ongoing. She's amazing. We 418 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: talked about the Halloween Baking Championship, but now we're talking 419 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: about the Halloween Holiday Baking Championship, which starts Monday and 420 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: airs on the Food Network nine pms Eastern, not being 421 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Pacific a PM Central. Uh. My man, Jesse Palmer. If 422 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: you watch ESPN Sports, you always see him on college Highlights. 423 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: He's the first Bachelor. Uh. He was on The Bachelor, 424 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. He's a really really great personality. Duff Goldman 425 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: is also on the show Nancy Fuller and Calor Hall Carlor. 426 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: When you do these shows, as me as a viewer, 427 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: what do you what do you want us to take 428 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: away from it? I know it's entertainment and watch an 429 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: amazing uh competition from a food perspective, What's what's our takeaway? Well? 430 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: One of the things that I try to do for 431 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: the home bankers and people who do who wants to 432 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: listen to us and also get feedback and what they 433 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: could do at home. I try to describe not only 434 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 1: what I am tasting and the flavors that I'm tasting, 435 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: so that they can think of, Oh, I wouldn't. I 436 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: would not, I would ever have thought about those flavors 437 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: going together. I also like to talk about technique so 438 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: that they can understand some of the techniques that they 439 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: can use to do some of these creations. I have 440 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: to tell you though, and back to talking about Sinai 441 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: and Renee and Aaron and this show. We saw a 442 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: lot of crazy, delicious, I mean delicious, delicious dishes, but 443 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: they were not lookers. I gotta tell you, we saw you. 444 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an about face. I gotta tell you, 445 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of uh like, oh my god, 446 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: that I don't want that, I don't want to eat 447 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: that in like, oh my gosh, that's delicious, right Like, 448 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of ugly delicious things. Awesome, awesome. 449 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: Now I don't I want to talk about some of that. 450 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: Think that it's dear to your heart. It's your podcast 451 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: that you launched in mid September, say yes. And the 452 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: reason I say that because you know what, when I 453 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: look at the description of it, it's similar to something. 454 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a negative of anything. I just 455 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: know that when you when you meet somebody who has 456 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: a similar passion, of similar desire to make people uh 457 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: uplift people with information. And that's what your podcast is 458 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: all about, because it shares and to me the reason 459 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: it works. And that's why I took the time for 460 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: people who know you only as a chieft to hear 461 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: your story, because your story is about pivoting. Your story 462 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: is about when you see an opportunity, you go forward 463 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: and you're not and you're not stopping yourself or limiting yourself, 464 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: and so many people do that and basically that's the 465 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: story behind while you launch, say yes, correct, correct, So 466 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: my mantra is say yes. Adventure follows then growth, and 467 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: sometimes the hardest thing is to say yes to something 468 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: that is the unknown, because the unknown is your adventure 469 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: and once you go through that that adventure, then you're 470 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: going to grow and then you move on to the 471 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: other the next yes. And so what I wanted people 472 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: to get out of this podcast is that a lot 473 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: of celebrities when when you think that my life began 474 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: on top chef, When my life began on the chew, 475 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: there were so many other things that happened to me 476 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: that formed this person who is on the chew of 477 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: the person that you see on television, and a lot 478 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: of times people don't think about that. And so what 479 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: I hope that people do is look at their lives 480 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: and look at the tough times, the times that that 481 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: they're being built for something greater. And if you but 482 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: you're only going to get to that greatness if you 483 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: keep pushing forward and saying yes, because we're all here 484 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: for a reason. Most people never get to that reason 485 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: because they are afraid or they're too safe, and they 486 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: want everything to be really easy. But if you say 487 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: yes and take a chance on yourself, and if you 488 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: know that the universe is so much smarter than we 489 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: are that to put you in a position to grow, 490 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: then you will get there. You know, she's a chelf, 491 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: he's a TV personality, Arthur motivational speaker. But more importantly, 492 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: she's calling Hall because she bet on herself. And when I, 493 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: when I, when I go through her bio, when the 494 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: interview I've just had with my biggest takeaway is trusting 495 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: yourself and saying yes. Because you all know caller, we're here. 496 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: The word know a lot more than what we're here. 497 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: The word yes, and so we have to push through 498 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: the nose to get to yes, and that's a testament 499 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: to who you are. And I just want to thank 500 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: you for coming on money making conversations. You know, I 501 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: was always a fan and now I'm a bigger fan 502 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna support you are with with on my 503 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: social media. You know, I got like a million followers, 504 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: I got a fan club or with eighty thousand fan 505 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: club members. I'm a post that so I always know 506 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: what Rashan McDonald. My platform is your platform. Okay, oh, 507 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: thank you. This has been so refreshing and just to 508 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: here you're your recap of my life, I'm like, wow, 509 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, yes you did. Yeah. And that's what I'm 510 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: just saying is that you know, just to hear from me, 511 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes people and you know you're I'm 512 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: telling this is your personality is very similar to mine. 513 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: Is that you're not a person who sits around bragging 514 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: or looking at the trophy and and saying this is 515 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: what I've done, and you you move on to the 516 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: next step. And sometimes that's good and bad because that 517 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: means you're always competing. You always drive into the next opportunity, 518 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: and you tend to forget your story. And that's why 519 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: I love that you created this podcast, because you're gonna 520 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: slow down and you're gonna do exactly what happened to me, Carling. 521 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna find out how many people you've affected in 522 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: such a positive way over the years that it's gonna 523 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: bring you to tears sometimes because you are a special 524 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: young lady. Don't change, and God has put you on 525 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: this earth and you're doing the gifts that He gave 526 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: you to make people's lives better. So don't change. Okay, 527 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: thank you. Can I tell you one quick thing that 528 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: I said to us to and this is my mother. 529 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: This is how the calls are with my mother. She 530 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: you think she's saying goodbye, and then she starts over again. 531 00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: But I said yes to Sherry Shepherd, but then to 532 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: do in comedy with Kim Umm Kim Kim Whitley. So 533 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: I did. I did a stand up I thought Sharon 534 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: was inviting me to her show, and I didn't read 535 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: the text. She was inviting me to actually perform. And 536 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: they were so amazing and warm and and encouraging because 537 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: when you when you were saying about stand up, it 538 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: is one of the hardest things you could possibly do, 539 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: and you are so vulnerable. Being on stage by yourself 540 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: and looking at a bunch of people saying to you 541 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: make me laugh. Um that that has got to be 542 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: one of the most character building things ever. So my 543 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: hat goes off to you. And yes, my friend, my 544 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: hat goes off to you. And like I said, Shepard, 545 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Kim Whitley, I gave her first 546 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,239 Speaker 1: acting opportunity back on parenthood when I cast her as 547 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: a clown. We always joke about that. So I know 548 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: the impact that I've had on people's lives, and I'll 549 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: just let you know that. As you go into this podcast, 550 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: you start to peel back the layers of your life. 551 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: You're starting to realize the people you impacted the Howard, 552 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: the people you impacted when you was a price world 553 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: of Hollege, the people you impacted when you went to Paris, 554 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: the people you impacted when you were to calling their school, 555 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: the people you impacted when you was at restaurants, the 556 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: people you impacted who watched you on you the people 557 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: you impact on the daily basis when they watch you 558 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: on repeat of the Food Network or current episodes of 559 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: the Food Network. You are an impactful young lady. Don't 560 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: change your your southern girl. You got that. You went 561 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: to d C. You know about that you or who 562 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: you are is built on what people made you to be, 563 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: and that's some great parents and the people who loved you. 564 00:31:53,880 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Don't change. Thank you. This is really interesting. I just 565 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: left talking to this guy. It's cool. Really seriously, thank you, good, 566 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We will talk soon. You know 567 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm a fan. We talked soon. Okay, call, we'll talk soon. Yes, 568 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: and tell your staff to give me some videos, some 569 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: banners so I can promote all your things, especially the podcast. 570 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: Say yes, especially your upcoming banners so I can promote 571 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: so your your your social media, and then I become 572 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: my social media. Okay, it's about It's all about you, girl, 573 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: It's all about you. Okay, thank you, all right, big time. 574 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: We talked soon about calling Hall okay talk. If you 575 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: want to hear more Money Making Conversation interviews, please go 576 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation dot com. I'm Sean McDonald. I'm 577 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: your host.