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Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show.

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Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Logerman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the

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Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron

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Speaker 1: Show starts right now. The Dog Moron Show presented by

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Speaker 1: the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. JP Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Flagerman. That's head coach Doug Marone. Alright, j good Man,

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Speaker 1: good holiday season is here? Two games to go and

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Speaker 1: you're heading down to Miami this week. You're old stopping

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Speaker 1: grounds you were a long time ago? Well, what year

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Speaker 1: was that? Wow? Night seven. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. I don't know if any guys the center,

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Speaker 1: though I learned a lot. I actually UM was talking

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Speaker 1: to the coaches about it. Um. You know back then,

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Speaker 1: you know how doubles were, so you'd have you know, doubles.

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Speaker 1: You know, you go two days and true to true

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Speaker 1: to a day. So we would uh, in the morning,

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Speaker 1: we do mostly run and then we would do a

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Speaker 1: running after practice in the morning, and then it would

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Speaker 1: rain in the afternoon. You come out and it was

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Speaker 1: like a sauna and UM, in the afternoon practice, and

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Speaker 1: we weren't out that out long, about an hour and

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Speaker 1: a half, about hour forty five. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: some nights we'd go back out UH in the evening

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Speaker 1: and do a walkthrough. And I remember UH specifically because

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Speaker 1: it was interesting because my locker was right next to

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Speaker 1: Dwight Stevenson's and Dwight was a guy that only played

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Speaker 1: about seven years but was still in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: And that's how dominating of a of a player he was.

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Speaker 1: And not only was he an unbelievable player, he was

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Speaker 1: just a He was a great person, great dad, great husband,

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Speaker 1: great everything. And he would go out to that walk

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Speaker 1: through and by that time, you're so beat up, you

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Speaker 1: know that, you know, you just kind of it was.

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Speaker 1: It was basically a baseball cap type walk through, but

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Speaker 1: he would come in sort of walked to and he

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Speaker 1: would be drenched in sweat. And I'll never forget he

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Speaker 1: was sitting next to me in the locker room one

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Speaker 1: day and I asked him, I said, what what are

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Speaker 1: you What are you doing? And you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: best player you know on that line it was there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of good players on that line. And

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Speaker 1: he said, you know he has dug every time I

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Speaker 1: go out on that field, I picked one or two

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Speaker 1: things that I'm gonna work on. So every time I

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Speaker 1: walk off that field, I felt like I get better.

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Speaker 1: And it was such an it was something that resonated

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Speaker 1: with me that in my coaching you know term, I've

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Speaker 1: always told that the players, you know, it's it's and

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Speaker 1: I think that's what That's one of the differences of

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Speaker 1: what makes you know, a Hall of Fame player, a

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Speaker 1: great football players that they're constantly working at their craft

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Speaker 1: and every time they walk off that field, there's something

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Speaker 1: within him that wants to make sure you know what

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Speaker 1: I've I've gotten better. What college did he go to? Alabama?

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Speaker 1: It's a great it's a great story. They the starting

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Speaker 1: center of Alabama was an All SEC player. I believe.

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Speaker 1: I believe this is a story. Um, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: And then Bear Bryant came in and said, look, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna move you to defense because we have a kid

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Speaker 1: coming in from Virginia Beach that's going to be a

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Speaker 1: starting center next year. And that was that was Dwight Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: And the player that moved from centator to defense became

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Speaker 1: an All SEC player at defense and and Dwight was

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Speaker 1: obviously an outstanding player. Yeah, the the roster. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at the roster of the nineteen eighties seven Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins earlier day, John Offord all great player. I played

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Speaker 1: with him in the East West Shrine game. Hardhead, total hardhead,

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Speaker 1: Paul Langford. And the link to the Jaguars is that

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Speaker 1: in nineteen nine Paul Lankford was the director of player

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Speaker 1: of programs here. I did not know that. I didn't

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Speaker 1: I know that. And Marino was the quarterback and I

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Speaker 1: can I can tell you this he was. He was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just a great guy to be around. It

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Speaker 1: was great leadership and he took care of everyone on

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Speaker 1: And you had one of the more well known equipment

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Speaker 1: you know, we've practiced well, We've practiced fast, and that's

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Speaker 1: you don't have to repeat many plays. You're you're out there,

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Speaker 1: you're working fast, You're you're you're going through it. Not

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Speaker 1: But it's still the same thing. You still got to

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Speaker 1: go out there on Sunday and perform, how whether not

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Speaker 1: How nice is it to have that facility on a

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Speaker 1: really it's outstanding. I mean from from a standpoint for

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's really an unbelievable facility, really is. And

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Speaker 1: We'll we'll get into the Dolphins a little bit as

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Speaker 1: Frank Gore, I can't say enough about the way he's

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Speaker 1: of their jerseys to sign. Yeah, I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to get frank Stein too, but I won't do

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Speaker 1: really hitting the whole well. Uh, really challenging to defend,

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Speaker 1: high level. Four point six yards of Kerry for a guy,

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Speaker 1: John Riggins, Well, I always go back to my days

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Speaker 1: all these players trade jerseys. Now, I don't get a

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't really I can't even

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Speaker 1: it's hard for me to go and shake hands afterwards,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I mean, you know, you compete,

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Speaker 1: and you're trying to win, and you know you're When

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Speaker 1: you win, it's great, you walk over there, hey, good luck,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go over there and shake somebody's hand. I'm

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Speaker 1: so pissed right now, you know. So it's and you

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Speaker 1: gotta remember. So most of the guys that are trading

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Speaker 1: jersey are skill position guys. Okay, so if you can

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Speaker 1: think about this for a minute, Okay, skill position guys

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Speaker 1: have a physique that if they don't have their jersey on,

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Speaker 1: kind of look okay, okay, the big offensive lineman. First

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny. It's like I have a couple

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Speaker 1: a lot of spurs and things of that nature. It's um,

427
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Speaker 1: you know, that stuff just starts. You know, it takes

428
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Speaker 1: a toll on your body. And some guys And that's

429
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Speaker 1: why I always say with in the NFL, you know,

430
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Speaker 1: some guys could potentially player, and some guys bodies aren't

431
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Speaker 1: made to play in this league. And to go back

432
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Speaker 1: to what you were talking about, JP about you because

433
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Speaker 1: it kind of gives the impression that Jalen is toughen

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Speaker 1: it out. What you know, all players in the league

435
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Speaker 1: are like that. I mean, so I don't want I

436
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Speaker 1: don't want anybody to think that Jalen Ramsey is special

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Speaker 1: and unique and that he's doing that somebody else is

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Speaker 1: not doing. I mean, there's players all around the National

439
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Speaker 1: Football League that are at the point that he's at

440
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Speaker 1: and are toughen it out because that's their job. You

441
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Speaker 1: play the game and then at the end of the season,

442
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Speaker 1: then you worry about everything else. How are those conversations

443
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Speaker 1: with your son, Doug that you mentioned in the sound

444
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Speaker 1: bite there, Yeah, I mean I think I think for

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Speaker 1: me it to be fair because again, you know, you

446
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Speaker 1: want to take away I've always approached it as you

447
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Speaker 1: want to take away the business approach. So the agenda

448
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Speaker 1: for the coach or the head coach is obviously to

449
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Speaker 1: put the player on that field, put that player on

450
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Speaker 1: the field, push them, push and push and push them.

451
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Speaker 1: And and I have a good understanding of that. But

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Speaker 1: at the same sense, you know, the same situation is

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Speaker 1: that I'm also a parent who's son and my daughter's

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be different in that. I you know,

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Speaker 1: if I was going to tell my son one thing,

457
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't I tell a player one thing? And I

458
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that you know, I'm I'm keeping

459
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Speaker 1: you know their best interests in play, because that's just

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Speaker 1: the way I that's just what I believe. I don't

461
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Speaker 1: think that you know my job or everything like that

462
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Speaker 1: should you know, constantly push push, push, because at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, in this profession, you're gonna have

464
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Speaker 1: to wake up and you're gonna have to look at

465
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Speaker 1: the mirror, and you know, as a head coach, you've

466
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Speaker 1: made a lot of decisions and you're gonna have to

467
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Speaker 1: live with them. And I never wanted to be that person.

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Speaker 1: The toughest situation I ever been through was we had

469
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470
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about he wanted to be a doctor, and

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473
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Speaker 1: talking to the doctor and I was telling the doctor,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, what if if this was my son,

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Speaker 1: so he could have stayed at Syracuse, been on scholarship,

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Speaker 1: and he wanted to play. And I remember talking to

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Speaker 1: his parents and I remember saying, it's they wanted him

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Speaker 1: to play, but the doctor wouldn't let him at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day. And I was thinking, if this

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Speaker 1: was my son, I would understand how my son would feel,

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't play him. I wouldn't risk another concussion

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Speaker 1: for him to be at a level where he might

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Speaker 1: save people's lives. And I noticed is an extreme case.

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Speaker 1: But so for me, I've always tried to talk to

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Speaker 1: players just like I'm talking to my own son. This

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Speaker 1: Vehicles JP Shadrick, Jeff Logerman, head coach, Doug Marron, The

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Speaker 1: Jags and the Dolphins coming up. How about the the

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Speaker 1: Miami Miracle play a couple of weeks ago. You've been

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Speaker 1: involved in something that crazy, Doug, Not no, not personally. No,

534
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Speaker 1: that was a wild one. It was. It really was

535
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Speaker 1: a crushing way to lose a football game, certainly from

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Speaker 1: the Patriots side, but something you don't see too often.

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Speaker 1: They kind of kept their hopes alive. They um they

538
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Speaker 1: lost last week we're blown up by the Vikings. But

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Speaker 1: seven and seven with that play, I think there's probably

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Speaker 1: for for a head coach, there's probably teachable moments from

541
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Speaker 1: that I would imagine as as an offense and as

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Speaker 1: a defense from that play. Did what did you take

543
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: away from that play as a coach? I think, you know, situationally,

544
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Speaker 1: you know, how do you how do you want to

545
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: play that? You know it's not a hell Mary type situation,

546
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Speaker 1: So you know, where do you want to be on

547
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Speaker 1: the field. Do you want to be you know in it,

548
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Speaker 1: you know, three deep, or you know, however you want

549
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Speaker 1: to do it, forty four under rush three, you know,

550
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Speaker 1: outside leverage, keeping everyone in bounce. I think from that standpoint,

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Speaker 1: you you look at it that way. These are things

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Speaker 1: that we talk about, you know, throughout the season or

553
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Speaker 1: prior to the season before they start and we start

554
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Speaker 1: working on is when when is it a hail Mary situation?

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Speaker 1: When is it we call it, you know, a Desperado

556
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Speaker 1: type situation where you're gonna get the pitch backs and

557
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Speaker 1: things of that nature. So you know, we work on

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Speaker 1: that stuff a lot. And I'm sure you know Miami

559
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Speaker 1: worked on it. I'm sure New England had a plan

560
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Speaker 1: or a thought process that they were going to go through.

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Speaker 1: But you know, at the end of the day, it

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Speaker 1: just shows you. It's sixty minutes and you have to play,

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole time, and and you have to

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Speaker 1: be ready for it because for watching that play on film,

565
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Speaker 1: because on television you don't really get a an understanding

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Speaker 1: of what everybody's doing on the field. You're just seeing

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Speaker 1: little glimpses here and there, and Larson, the guard for

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Speaker 1: the Dolphin's got a great block on. But then you

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Speaker 1: watch some of the Patriot defenders that are they're playing

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Speaker 1: the guy's other guys kind of almost like in a

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Speaker 1: pass coverage, expecting maybe a throwback and not even involving

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Speaker 1: themselves in on the play. And so as a defensive coach,

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Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute, go get the ball. Let's

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Speaker 1: not totally worry about the pitch. We react to crazy

575
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Speaker 1: play a couple of weeks ago. Your football team heading

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Speaker 1: to Miami this week. You gotta get something going on offense,

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Speaker 1: your coach, how do you jump start this group here? Well, again,

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Speaker 1: you know it's it's it can help me. It goes

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Speaker 1: back to explosive plays. I mean, when you look at

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Speaker 1: our year and we haven't had gotten you know, we

581
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Speaker 1: haven't gotten many spokes to play. When we have, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been able to score points and and and are

583
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Speaker 1: are are explosive plays if you match them. If it's

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Speaker 1: eight even that point total for what the average in

585
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Speaker 1: the NFL is a little bit down. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously when we don't have the same amount of explosive

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Speaker 1: plays and that averages down further. So you know, for us,

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Speaker 1: we need to you know, create exposed to place, whether

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Speaker 1: it's the run or the past. We need to you know,

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Speaker 1: we need to do that. We need to you know,

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Speaker 1: have some type of consistency, you know, where we're not

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Speaker 1: hurting ourselves. We're in a position where we really can't

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Speaker 1: overcome you know, uh, penalties or setbacks and things of

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Speaker 1: that nature. And you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: we have to make sure that we secure the football

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Speaker 1: and and hopefully that we can create some turnovers either

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Speaker 1: defensively or special team wise. And the one Staton play

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Speaker 1: in Miami that people you know may not see is

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Speaker 1: that you know, when they've won the field position battle

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Speaker 1: been undefeated. So you know, when you talk about field position,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people go right to special teams, which

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Speaker 1: do play a big role in it. But it's truly

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Speaker 1: you know, the offense and the defense that everyone you

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Speaker 1: know playing a role and winning the field position battle.

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Speaker 1: No offense defense, I mean defense is a big part

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Speaker 1: of field position. If defense can help him out take

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Speaker 1: forced the punt, that's kind of can flip a field

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Coach, Good luck to you this week. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: j still get one done in Miami. Absolutely the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: of Leslie's pool supplies. They're great. They always offer free

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Speaker 1: water testing. I take them my pool water twice a month.

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Speaker 1: I also got my new heat pumped from them. They

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Speaker 1: installed it too works great. Love the Leslie Store team

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Speaker 1: almost as much as my Jack's. They're a close second.

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Speaker 1: You should stop in. Wow, what a pool store. With

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Speaker 1: five Jacksonville stores, there's always one nearby. Leslie's Pool Supplies,

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Speaker 1: service and repair. Go Jags. Welcome back to the Hannonia

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Speaker 1: Autos dot Com studio. The Doug Moron Show continues right now.

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Speaker 1: We're back to Doug Maron Show, presented by the Florida

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Speaker 1: Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. J P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lagerman head coach jug Maron joins us in the

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Speaker 1: first half hour each and every weekend sightful as always

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00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: head coach. This week with the injury taught. That's an

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Speaker 1: interesting concept for a head coach because part of you,

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Speaker 1: you know, you want your guy on the football field,

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Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you you want

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Speaker 1: your guy to be healthy and right to you know, well,

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, the best

658
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Speaker 1: interest of the player for the most part, is the

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Speaker 1: same best interest for the team. And I think the

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Speaker 1: coaches that understand that are the ones that I think

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Speaker 1: do there the team a great service and do the

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Speaker 1: player of great service, because I mean at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, A lot of coaches, going back into

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Speaker 1: what that called the old school ways, they thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: the short term vision. Short term vision. Well, if if

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Speaker 1: you lose a player for a week to get a performance,

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Speaker 1: and I'll draw this comparison, Let's say the player continues

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Speaker 1: to play through an injury and toss it out and

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Speaker 1: grits it out, all that kind of stuff, and its

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Speaker 1: performance on a scale of one to a hundred, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's out of zero one to a hundred.

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Speaker 1: Let's say the player with the injury is let's say

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Speaker 1: a sixty. Okay, Well, if that player were to get

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Speaker 1: a day off, for a week off or two weeks off,

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Speaker 1: and then the player gets back to where his performance,

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Speaker 1: let's say, is that a seventy five for those games?

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Speaker 1: What's better, you know, that performance for a week or

678
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Speaker 1: two and having them versus a seventy five. And so

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Speaker 1: I think coaches have started to see that. I think

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Speaker 1: going back into some of the old days, they would

681
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Speaker 1: they would want to take the player of the They

682
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Speaker 1: trusted that they knew the starter, even if he's playing

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Speaker 1: a little gimpie, Whereas nowadays I think coaches are understanding

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Speaker 1: that you need to have the player healthy to get

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Speaker 1: the best performance long term with with the players. So

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Speaker 1: but it is a delicate balance that a coach has

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Speaker 1: to do. And and here's the reality, it's not the

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Speaker 1: coach that's making the ultimate determination. Sometimes it it is

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Speaker 1: a it is a conversation between player and coach, but

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Speaker 1: the player has to make the ultimate call. But the

691
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Speaker 1: doctor is the one too that if he says no,

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Speaker 1: it's not like the player and the coach are going

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Speaker 1: to overrule the doctor. The doctor. The doctor a lot

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Speaker 1: of times will say, hey, there is no risk of

695
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Speaker 1: further injury if you continue to play with this. It's

696
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: up to you whether you play or not. Then it

697
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: becomes the player's decision talking with the coach, etcetera. But

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00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: the doctor holds the trump card, the one when he

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Speaker 1: says no play, there is no play the interesting stuff

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Speaker 1: and there's things you gotta play with JP. That's why

701
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of make that point with what

702
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is that you know, there's a lot of

703
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: guys that are playing with stuff. Is Jeremy Parnell did

704
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Speaker 1: it for most of the season. He's through I mean,

705
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Speaker 1: everybody everybody on that line. Everybody on the field is

706
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Speaker 1: playing with something. There's there's not one player in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League that's going you know what, Man, feel great.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for the season, and I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: hike Mount Everest and you know, and jog ten miles

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Speaker 1: and you know, do the triathlon down in Hawaii. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel great. It doesn't happen, doesn't work. And then

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Speaker 1: the younger you are, the less time it takes to

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Speaker 1: get back to feeling good, and the older you get,

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Speaker 1: the more time that it takes. And obviously surgeries are

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Speaker 1: always a part of it. I would say on average,

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Speaker 1: with a with a with a professional football team, I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing here. I'm not guessing, I'm educated. Guess. I would

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Speaker 1: say somewhere between five and twelve surgical guy is at

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Speaker 1: the end of every year, somewhere in that range. You know,

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Speaker 1: ballpark clean it up, clean ups, you know, major fixes,

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Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it. So, by the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about going down to Miami because and not because

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Speaker 1: it's Miami. I'm not a South Beach guy. Had you

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Speaker 1: pegged four am South Beach guy fist pumping in the dance,

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Speaker 1: I know that I kind of give off the impression

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Speaker 1: that I am okay, But just to let you know,

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Speaker 1: and it may shock you, I'm actually shocked, are you okay?

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Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to seeing the stadium. We haven't

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00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: seen the stadium since all the renovations that they have

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Speaker 1: undergone down there, with the canopies over the top of

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Speaker 1: the stadium, the upgraded club stuff, the new seating and

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Speaker 1: uh and all that kind of stuff, which Steven Ross,

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Speaker 1: the owner of the Miami Dolphins, supposedly kicked in like

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Speaker 1: five million dollars for some of these upgrades and haven't

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Speaker 1: been there yet for looks great on television. I'll say that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it looks great, and I know that. And one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why I'm looking forward to seeing that this

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Speaker 1: kind of sun canopy concept is because I know that

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Speaker 1: that's been talked about is maybe a possibility here at

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Speaker 1: some point. So I want to see how it looks,

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Speaker 1: see how it feels. And you know, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that if it's gonna be would be the same here,

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Speaker 1: but I know that's what you know, when you talk

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Speaker 1: about people about game day experience, that's typically one of

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Speaker 1: the things that they point to. But and the amazing

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Speaker 1: thing is that with the canopy closures that they have there.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about and I wrote this down that about

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Speaker 1: the fans are in shape for the game. That's incredible,

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Speaker 1: and so I want to see that. I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to see how those things work, how they're designed,

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Speaker 1: how it looks. I'm looking forward to that. We'll come

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Speaker 1: back and and I am looking forward to a good

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Speaker 1: meal on Saturday. Now we'll come by be in the hotel.

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Speaker 1: It won't be a South Beach. I'm shocked by that.

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Speaker 1: I really, I don't know if I've ever been. I

756
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: think I've been in South Beach one time, and that

757
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: was back in the late eighties, somewhere not range. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back and hear that story when we return.

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Speaker 1: so we're here to see who's going to go for

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Speaker 1: the win. First off, Molly took it to the next

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Speaker 1: level with the chairs and the coolers. Here comes them

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Speaker 1: bringing it with those killer boots in that portable grill.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, I think she's going for mom. I think

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Speaker 1: the hotdogs are on fire. Hold on, honey, ladies, where

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Speaker 1: for all your tailgating needs, as we probably support the

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Speaker 1: Moron Show, presented by the Florida Department of Highway Safety

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Speaker 1: and Motor Vehicles. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logerman and Coach

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Speaker 1: jag Maroon with us in the first half hour each

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Speaker 1: and every week. Jaguars Defense. You know a lot of

802
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: younger fellows are getting some planned time these days. Nick

803
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: de Luca was out there. Leon Jacob's done for the year,

804
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: so DeLuca had some time last week, had a sack.

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00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Davin Bryant is getting some time, of course, in a

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00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: starting role now, and that could be the future of

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00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: the defensive line there for this And and by the way,

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00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: he's playing still a lot at both positions. He's moving around,

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00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: he's still he's getting reps at the three technique, but

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00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: he's also still playing that strong side in and and

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Speaker 1: I thought he did a pretty good job last week.

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00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: He had one play where he got out of a

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00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: gap that led to an Adrian Peterson successful run. That

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00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: was on him. Uh, but you know he's he's doing

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Speaker 1: a solid job, and you know, you want to see

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Speaker 1: more kind of out of that pass rush production. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think back to the John Henderson Marcus

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Speaker 1: Stroud days when you're talking about too high picked defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman that came in. When Marcus Stroud came in as

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Speaker 1: a rookie, he was very disappointing as a rookie, was

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Speaker 1: very disappointing. And I just remember looking at Marcus going,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever gonna be that good.

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Speaker 1: He's I mean, I don't know if that was a

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Speaker 1: good pick or not, and then you obviously developed into

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Speaker 1: I mean a great player, great player. John Henderson kind

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Speaker 1: of the same way, not quite as as drastic as

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Speaker 1: Marcus was. So I have patients with defensive lineman a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and I have patients with wide receivers quite

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Speaker 1: a bit, because I've learned that over the years that

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Speaker 1: that does take time. That's why I've got some patience

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Speaker 1: with Tavin Bryant. I've got some patience with DJ Chart.

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Speaker 1: Running backs. I think you either have it or you don't.

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00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: I think most running backs coming to the league and

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Speaker 1: either are good or they are not good. And so

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Speaker 1: that's why I don't probably have as much much patience

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Speaker 1: with Leonard Fournett, and my expectations are higher. But the

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Speaker 1: one thing that I do through out there with Leonard

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Speaker 1: Fournett is is the injury situation. Well, you know, is

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Speaker 1: that the case or or not, I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: he's clearly not effective. So I didn't mean to kind

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Speaker 1: of redirect that back to Leonard Fournett, but I mean

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Speaker 1: just got in the conversation of young players, and defensively,

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Speaker 1: some of the young players I'm enjoying watching. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Quentin Meeks, I think had an opportunity to do something

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Speaker 1: on special Teams there when that when that punt was muffed,

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Speaker 1: And I thought that was a really teachable moment for

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Speaker 1: Quentin Meeks, remember when the punt was mopped and he

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity there and his first thought was and

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Speaker 1: Joe even said, look, you're kind of hard on him

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852
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Speaker 1: My more in my head there was when there is

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Speaker 1: a muff, it is fair game to do anything that

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Speaker 1: to him. So, uh, Lyndon Johnson got eight reps in

867
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Speaker 1: the game. He was a defensive lineman that we watched

868
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875
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876
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Speaker 1: same thing with Tavin Bryan this year, and so you

877
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878
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,560
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879
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: guy that I'm looking forward to seeing more from as well.

880
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Speaker 1: And I'm a big fan of of Jared Wilson. I

881
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Speaker 1: can't wait to see him play again this week, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to see that he missed practiced yesterday for

883
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884
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Speaker 1: Good news considering that certainly Ronnie Harrison is is Donna

886
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Speaker 1: probably tomorrow. We'll come back and we're gonna figure out

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Speaker 1: the running back group. We're gonna figure it out. We're

889
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Speaker 1: gonna work on it, work on what are we gonna

890
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Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show continues right now. The Dug Maron

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Speaker 1: with us in the first half hour each and every week.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman, you, sir, are going to help us figure

950
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Speaker 1: out the running back situation for this Jaguars football team. Okay,

951
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: let's start with this week. Who's up, who's down, who's active? Inactive?

952
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: And where do you who do you start? How long

953
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: do they play? For me? I would probably not, probably

954
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Speaker 1: because if I'm making this call, I can't probably do

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Speaker 1: anything you have to do, and we have to have

956
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Speaker 1: one of them inactive. I'm assuming that you don't have to.

957
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can inactivate whoever else you want. I

958
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: don't care. It's your roster. Okay, but you said I'm

959
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: in charge of the running back room. That's it. Yeah,

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00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: you're not giving me the ability. And I think with

961
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Speaker 1: the assumption has to be that one running back has

962
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Speaker 1: to be an actor okay, So my inactive running back

963
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Speaker 1: would be Carlos Hide, okay. And the reason I say

964
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Speaker 1: that is Leonard Fournette has given me the best glimpses

965
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Speaker 1: so far this year, going back to the Buffalo game,

966
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Speaker 1: and t J. Yelden is my best receiving option out

967
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Speaker 1: of the backfield. He has been very consistent. And David

968
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: Williams has intrigued me from his performance last week where

969
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Speaker 1: he had thirty two yards rushing a little over six

970
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Speaker 1: yards per carry. So I'm gonna go into this game

971
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Speaker 1: with the exact same look that I did last week.

972
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: For Net is gonna be my my bell cow, so

973
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: to speak, and then David Williams is gonna be my

974
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 1: next guy up in regular situations. When I say regular situations,

975
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: first down back and subsituations where we go to three

976
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Speaker 1: wide receivers, I'm gonna leave some of Leonard four Nett

977
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Speaker 1: in there, I'm gonna leave some of t J in there,

978
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna leave something for David Williams. I'm gonna

979
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: get all three of them reps. But I but I

980
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: think it's a and in the first let's say ten

981
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: carriers in the ball game, then then I'm gonna adjust.

982
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: See how it's going. Yeah, see how it's going if

983
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette is aggressive and hitting the whole and

984
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: is doing a good job and protection because that's a

985
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: big part of the running back. Now, Okay, protection is

986
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: a big part. If you can't protect, you can't play.

987
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: And four net has been just okay to not okay

988
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: in his past protection. So let me see where everything's

989
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: at after the the end of the first quarter, so

990
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: to speak, which is gonna be about fifteen plays in

991
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: ballpark somewhere in that range. I don't think it's gonna

992
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: be a whole lot more than that. I'm not expecting

993
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot more plays than fifteen because the offense

994
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: has been struggling. And I'm not trying to be funny there,

995
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: but how many plays did the offense have in last

996
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: week's game? It didn't have any, didn't have a lot.

997
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: You gotta put first down together to get more plays offensively.

998
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: But that's what I do. Okay, would you do? Well?

999
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Leonard's your guy, and you want him to

1000
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: look like he's your he's your's drafted him to be

1001
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: your guys. Right now, he's not showing you that he

1002
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: is the guy. Well, he showed glimpses of it before

1003
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: the suspension that Buffalo game. You want that, Leonard for

1004
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: net that's what you want. How many times that this year?

1005
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: Only a few times. We haven't seen a lot a

1006
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: few times. Name me the other time we saw that

1007
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: the week before that too, Pittsburgh game. He ran pretty well. Okay,

1008
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: that's a couple, there's two. I'm just that's not being

1009
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: with being honest. I'm not asking. I'm not trying to

1010
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: be facetious. It's not enough, mind you. But we have

1011
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: seen that before. Now did everything that happened in the

1012
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: running back room last week during that game? Will that

1013
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: motivate Leonard to come out and play a little differently?

1014
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: I hope? So maybe he comes back with a little

1015
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: fire and wants to prove that hey, I don't need

1016
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Speaker 1: to be sitting on the sideline in the fourth quarter.

1017
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: We gotta go see it. So he's still the guy.

1018
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: And then you're right intriguing about Williams young guy. You

1019
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: want to see what he has and Yeldon's probably out

1020
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: of here in free agency anyway. You know at the

1021
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: end of the year, maybe maybe you know, but who

1022
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: knows what that does? That play a part in your

1023
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: game day decision. Well, he hasn't touched the ball a

1024
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: lot lately, has he. I'm just asking I'm not I'm

1025
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: not asking you to dip into the minds of what

1026
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: is going on right now. I'm asking you to make

1027
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: a call. Yeldon is your best guy in the passing game.

1028
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: I think he's best pass protection guy. Um Leonard is

1029
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: still the guy that can break it if he really

1030
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: is running well. Take one of the house and Williams

1031
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: is so far at least six carries in a guy

1032
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: that you kind of like. And what are you seeing

1033
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: on Carlos Hide. I've seen a guy that was inactive

1034
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: last week. It hasn't played well when he's in an

1035
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: out there, Okay, you think he had played him played well.

1036
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: I think he's a back that has been just okay

1037
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: to blow average. But the one thing I will say

1038
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: about Carl's Hode that I have liked is his his

1039
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: aggressiveness and hitting the whole. But the productivity hasn't been there. Yea.

1040
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: So he's had his chances to be productive and then

1041
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: he wasn't for a couple of games in a row.

1042
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: So disappointing thing that he is inactive if he is again,

1043
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: you're talking about a fifth round of that you gave up.

1044
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: Let's come back and we'll preview our final thoughts of

1045
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: this week's game. It's the Doug Moron Show, presented by

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Speaker 1: it's what we do every day. You see. We still

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1053
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Speaker 1: We even take pride in taking pride, and the world

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