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Speaker 1: Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Camra,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Welcome to the program. How are you Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm all right. Thanks for having me here. Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: our pleasure. So what's going on with this woman Kim?

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Speaker 1: We got to know kind of everything here. How you met?

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Speaker 1: About any dates that you've been on and what's going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went on a couple of dates with this

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Speaker 2: girl Kim. We met on the apps, you know, and

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Speaker 2: hit it off online.

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Speaker 1: We're talking for a good couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: They're great conversation. We decided to go grab drinks, so

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Speaker 2: that's what we did. We had a great, great first date,

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Speaker 2: like a really great first date, Like it was so

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Speaker 2: good that we had planned our second date while we

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Speaker 2: were still on the first date.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and I the second date that was even better

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Speaker 1: than the first date, and you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm like, hey, I think I might have found

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Speaker 2: the one here right, Like this is was great. Well

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Speaker 2: until she ghosted me, you know, and now I'm ghosted

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Speaker 2: and I have no idea why.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody likes that. That's very disappointing when you know

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Speaker 1: things are building up and you're feeling really good about it.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, man, I got something going here, especially

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Speaker 1: if you've been on the dating apps and playing all

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Speaker 1: that game for a long time, except now you can't

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Speaker 1: get a hold of this person. And you look back

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Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't know why, because I was

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Speaker 1: feeling so good about it all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, two fantastic dates, and the first

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Speaker 2: one was so good, we'd be playing the second one,

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Speaker 2: second one one even better?

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Speaker 1: And no clue? Why no, no clue? What's going on here? Okay?

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Speaker 1: All right, well that's where we come in. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: play one song come back. We're gonna call Kim. You'll

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Speaker 1: be on the phone camera, and we're gonna ask these

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Speaker 1: questions to see if we can figure out what's going on,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we can straighten things out and set you

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Speaker 1: guys up on another day that we pay for. So

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Speaker 1: I'm good. That'd be great. You've got to hear what

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Speaker 1: happens next Part two of Waiting by the phone after

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Speaker 1: Sizza back in two minutes. It's the Bread Show. Sizza

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Speaker 1: is on the commercial free Fred Show, Shelby Shelley has Money.

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Speaker 1: Jason Iffer Cannon with the Entertainer Report, both on the

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Speaker 1: way Next Hey Cameron. Yeah, all right, welcome, let's call Kim.

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Speaker 1: You guys you met on the apps, right and he

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Speaker 1: went on two dates, the second date better than the first,

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Speaker 1: and you really felt good about this. You're excited about

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. And you can't get a hold of

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Speaker 1: Kim now, and you want to know why? Why? Why

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Speaker 1: am I being ghosted? What you're asking yourself? Yeah, no clue,

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Speaker 1: dam nobody wants them. All right, let's call her right now?

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Speaker 1: Good luck? Cameron? Are you.

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Is this Kim? Hey Kim? Good morning. My name is

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Speaker 1: Fredam called from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio Show,

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Speaker 1: and I do have to tell you that we are

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Speaker 1: permission to continue with the calls. It okay if we

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Speaker 1: chat for a couple of minutes, Well, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: know it's kind of weird, but we appreciate it. We're

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Speaker 1: calling on behalf of a guy named Cameron. He says

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Speaker 1: meeting on the apps. Do you remember Cameron? Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: yeah I do. Okay, okay, well what happened? Because he

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Speaker 1: being ghosted. What's your side of the story. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: yeah we did. We did beat on the apps. We

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Speaker 2: It was fun until he just started moving way too fast.

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Speaker 1: Okay, like, what does that mean? Well, during our second date,

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Speaker 1: Camline told me and he was falling in love with me.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean that that is aggressive, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on or what? He didn't say, I'm falling in love

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Speaker 1: I always I'm still forgetful. I'm sorry, Caim, But Cameron,

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Speaker 1: do you you told her that you're falling in love

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, first of all, hate him. I had a

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Speaker 1: I didn't know I loved you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly like I told her that I loved you,

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Speaker 2: But no, I said I was falling in love with you.

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Speaker 1: Well that's close, that's I mean, that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: one one percent chance that works. Oh my god. Life

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Speaker 3: And if he decided on the second day he said

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Speaker 1: Now, as you well know, I have no issue being

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Speaker 1: problem with saying that that's your intention. But when you

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Speaker 1: start dropping the L word. Yes, we have a problem

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Speaker 1: that Jason moved in one day. I love you in

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Speaker 1: when I'm on the phone already, Like, so are we exclusive?

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Speaker 1: I'm crazy? I look and I don't think it's unfair

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Speaker 1: don't tell me you're falling in love with me. You

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. The love thing is a lot.

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Speaker 1: oh if you communicate that just like, Hey, I really

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Speaker 3: We like to play these games with each other, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: let me not be too vulnerable too soon, and then

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Speaker 1: I will say love is a triggering word, because obviously

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Speaker 1: that is the ultimate. I will agree with you when

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Speaker 1: I say, as a dude, I find and we've been

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Speaker 1: And that's christ and it sucks. And it sucks because

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's how love stories start. Okay, look, Kaylen,

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Speaker 1: You got to say yes to that. No, man, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's he's only falling in love with you. He's not.

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Speaker 1: He's not in love with you yet. That's way different, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's only falling What about I'm falling for you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, when you start driving the L word,

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Speaker 1: the answers know, Kim, do you love me? Are we?

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Speaker 1: Are we in love? That's a no? Okay, you don't

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Speaker 2: I don't get why you're defending this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not defending the L word. I'm defending a guy

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Speaker 1: you messed up, Cameron. We can't be dropping that over here.

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Speaker 2: Wow, man, I guess I'm learning that Lasson. I just

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the date, you know, like it was.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, Kim, he's gonna pump the brakes.

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Speaker 1: Can we make this work? Nor the damages? The damage

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Speaker 1: is done. That sucks. That's I feel for you, Cameron.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you went for you went real hard. He

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Speaker 1: a I think there's a middle ground here that we

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Speaker 1: and Jason, be yourself. I never see like, I don't

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Speaker 1: I mean. I never want to tell anybody not to

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Speaker 1: I thought that was hot, Like, just don't sit right. Well,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was hot. That sounds more about him

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Speaker 1: good life by this economy girl. Whatever works, way you

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. And Kim I understand too, So best of

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Speaker 1: keep trying, Cameron. Yeah, I agree, Yes,