Speaker 1: And welcome back to Is this a great game or
Speaker 1: what with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkchin. I'm his son,
Speaker 1: Jeff Kirchin. Again, you have outdressed me, Dad, But you
Speaker 1: are again at ESPN doing all of the broadcasts. I
Speaker 1: see you on TV all the time, Sports Center, Baseball Tonight,
Speaker 1: doing all the things. And we're still talking about this
Speaker 1: trade deadline. We did a special episode back on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We had Jim Bowden on the show the day before that.
Speaker 1: So this has been such a fun week in Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball, right Dad?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: And not only have I outdressed you, Jeff, I am
Speaker 3: wearing makeup today too. And for everyone in our business
Speaker 3: knows how to do his or her own makeup, I
Speaker 3: of course don't, so when I come into ESPN, they
Speaker 3: put makeup on me, which is always helpful. I remember
Speaker 3: my first year at ESPN. I looked at one of
Speaker 3: the makeup artists, I having never done makeup before, and said,
Speaker 3: do do I need makeup? It was a rhetorical question,
Speaker 3: but she said, yes, you need a lot of makeup.
Speaker 3: I thought that was I thought that was a bit unnecessary,
Speaker 3: but she laughed. I laughed, of course, why wouldn't we
Speaker 3: more important, Jeff, this is your last Is this a
Speaker 3: great game episode that we're going to do with you
Speaker 3: as a thirty two year old, because on Sunday, August
Speaker 3: the ninth, you will turn How old will you be?
Speaker 2: You'll be thirty three years old?
Speaker 3: Jeff. Sorry, that's so great, right, And who's our greatest
Speaker 3: number thirty three in baseball history? Let's see if you
Speaker 3: can remember that, Jeff. He hit the most sacrificed flies
Speaker 3: of anyone in history and yet never led the league
Speaker 3: in sacrifice flies.
Speaker 2: In any one season.
Speaker 3: He hit five hundred homers, and for me, after Mickey Mantle,
Speaker 3: he might be might be the greatest wwitch hitter ever
Speaker 3: Number thirty three, Jeff Eddie Murraha, Yes, yes, Jeff, you
Speaker 3: got it on the eighth clue.
Speaker 1: Well, really, the five hundred homers automatically, like tons of
Speaker 1: players just leave the memory, right, because you're just five
Speaker 1: hundred club is unbelievable. I mean, you're almost automatically a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I'm not making takes here. I know
Speaker 1: steroid era excuse me really fast, but you know, excluding
Speaker 1: those guys, five hundred home runs pretty much put you
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. It took me a second
Speaker 1: to get there switch hitter and nailed it. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't ever get questions right. I got that one right.
Speaker 2: You did. Way to go, Jeff.
Speaker 3: All right, I need makeup today because I haven't slept
Speaker 3: in two days because my flight got canceled. My morning
Speaker 3: flight got canceled two days in a row, which caused
Speaker 3: a few issues, especially for poor pop pop, who you know,
Speaker 3: has to have things in order then when they get
Speaker 3: thrown out of order. But I made it, and I
Speaker 3: made it to ESPN today and I'll be here tomorrow,
Speaker 3: so we're all good.
Speaker 2: Every thing is good. But I need a little sleep, Jeff.
Speaker 3: Hopefully Wednesday night tonight, when we're after a recording, I'll
Speaker 3: get some sleep.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Yeah, I mean, Dad, you taught me
Speaker 1: growing up you'll never remember how tired you were. And
Speaker 1: trust me, after raising one daughter now too, I surely
Speaker 1: remember how tired I was. But the point you always
Speaker 1: made to me was, hey, like do the things because
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a memory to have. You're always gonna
Speaker 1: remember this trade deadline. It's been crazy, but it's been fun.
Speaker 1: I know you're having a great time hanging out with
Speaker 1: your friends at ESPN and doing all these shows and
Speaker 1: doing this dinky little podcast with me. I'm exhausted all
Speaker 1: the time. I just submitted a form, Dad, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 1: I submitted a form to run to be a director
Speaker 1: of our HLA in my new neighborhood. What am I doing?
Speaker 2: Jeff?
Speaker 3: That might be the dumbest decision you never made, other
Speaker 3: than growing a mustache.
Speaker 2: Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Dad? Oh gosh, because I really care about this neighborhood.
Speaker 1: We're in a brand new build in Pennsylvania, forty two homes,
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that you know this
Speaker 1: neighborhood remained safe and clean and beautiful. And a bunch
Speaker 1: of neighbors came to me after I'd had a couple
Speaker 1: of drinks on the fourth of July and said, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you would be really good on the H twoa board.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows you and loves you. So I did it.
Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, I'm going for it, all right, Jeff.
Speaker 1: But I Dad, you know what happened. I ran for
Speaker 1: the board in my old neighborhood. Have I ever told
Speaker 1: you this story. I became a member of the board,
Speaker 1: three members. Right the election comes up. I came in fourth,
Speaker 1: and I was only brought onto the board because somebody died.
Speaker 1: So a guy died on the board, and they said, well,
Speaker 1: let's just get the guy who came in fourth, and
Speaker 1: so they said, all right, you're so. I didn't even win,
Speaker 1: but somebody had hie. And listen, Las Vegas Police is
Speaker 1: still trying to call me asking if I know anything
Speaker 1: about this. I'm the number one suspect, but it was
Speaker 1: natural causes. I had nothing to do with it. I
Speaker 1: don't care that much about being on the h It
Speaker 1: wouldn't kill for it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: The great Stephen Wright once said, Jeff curiosity killed the cat,
Speaker 3: but for a while I was a suspect. Love Stephen, right,
Speaker 3: all right, but I also love Jeff Is. We still
Speaker 3: have people talking about a bases loaded walk off automatic
Speaker 3: double that Raphael Dever's hit. He got credit for a
Speaker 3: single and one RBI instead of a double and two RBIs,
Speaker 3: and we still have people chiming in on that. I'd
Speaker 3: love that. We've hit kind of a nerve here. But
Speaker 3: Frank from the Elias just texted me out of nowhere
Speaker 3: the other day to say he was so intrigued by that,
Speaker 3: and he does this for a living, that he went
Speaker 3: back in baseball history and was looking like in the
Speaker 3: early nineteen hundreds, and there weren't many homers in the
Speaker 3: early nineteen hundreds. But if you hit a walk off homer,
Speaker 3: they would only give you the number of RBIs until
Speaker 3: the game was over. In other words, if you hit
Speaker 3: a walk off Grand Slam with a one run lead,
Speaker 3: you would only get I mean, in a tie game,
Speaker 3: you would only get one RBI because you won the
Speaker 3: game with one run and the other three runs.
Speaker 2: Didn't even count. Are you surprised to hear that?
Speaker 1: I just love that he got excited about it, because
Speaker 1: if he got excited about it, then we know there's
Speaker 1: something there for sure, right right?
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: And also, you know, what should we call the three
Speaker 3: pitches three outs in one inning? I said we should
Speaker 3: call it a saying named after Johnny Saying, the great
Speaker 3: pitching coach and the very good pitcher Boston Braves and
Speaker 3: others in the forties and fifties. So somebody run and
Speaker 3: Johnny saying, of course war number thirty three, which has
Speaker 3: something to do with the choice there. But somebody wrote
Speaker 3: in and said, if anyone ever retires three batters on
Speaker 3: three pitches two innings in a row, so six pitches,
Speaker 3: six outs. It should be called an alfonseka oh ah,
Speaker 3: six and six because Antonio Alfonseca, who has come up
Speaker 3: at least a dozen times on this podcast this year,
Speaker 3: has six fingers on each hand and six toes on
Speaker 3: each feet foot. So if we ever get anyone, and
Speaker 3: we never will, who gets a three out, three pitch,
Speaker 3: three outs in the first, three pitches, three outs in
Speaker 3: the second, we will call that an Alfonseca.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: I think that's an absolute must. Hands up there, it
Speaker 1: is six and six. You did it? What is up
Speaker 1: with this podcast? Who is going to be the obscure
Speaker 1: player we mentioned five hundred times next season? Only time
Speaker 1: will tell because it just happens. I mean, watch Johnson
Speaker 1: makes sense, Alphanseeka. I mean, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Dad? Right? I totally agree. It's so good? All right, Jeff?
Speaker 2: Here we go.
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Speaker 1: The take Go ahead, All right, dad, let's roll right
Speaker 1: into the takeaways. What do you got?
Speaker 2: All right? So in love?
Speaker 3: What the Yankees did? The Yankees are in trouble, especially offensively. Look,
Speaker 3: they're gonna pitch their way into the playoffs and they're
Speaker 3: gonna be a dangerous team in October. But we're still
Speaker 3: not sure about Aaron Judge when he's coming back and
Speaker 3: what he's gonna look like when he comes back. So
Speaker 3: the Yankees, needing like a burst of energy, called up
Speaker 3: George Lombard Junior, who is a twenty one year old
Speaker 3: shortstop and their best prospect and one of the best
Speaker 3: prospects in baseball. And in his first game playing shortstop
Speaker 3: for the Yankees, hitting seventh in his second career at
Speaker 3: bad he had a home run. And I am a
Speaker 3: big believer Jeff that this is what you do when
Speaker 3: you need a spark. Sometimes the best thing to do
Speaker 3: is to not make a trade. It's to bring up
Speaker 3: your best kid in the minor leagues and see if
Speaker 3: he can provide the energy and at least for one game.
Speaker 3: George Lombard Junior, did that? You agree that that? You know,
Speaker 3: everyone looks around and goes, hey, the kid is here,
Speaker 3: Let's see what we do with this. And there's no
Speaker 3: real pressure on the kid, because the pressure is winning
Speaker 3: games every night, as opposed to I've seen it, Jeff,
Speaker 3: you bring up a kid when the team is hopelessly
Speaker 3: out of the Pennant race, and then it's all about him.
Speaker 3: They dissect every single at bat and if he goes
Speaker 3: oh for six, people are saying, what's wrong with the kid? Well,
Speaker 3: they're not going to say that if he gets off
Speaker 3: to a bad start, because they have bigger things to
Speaker 3: talk about, that is the winning and losing of games.
Speaker 3: Are they gonna win the division title? Where you know
Speaker 3: that type of thing. Do you agree that's the right
Speaker 3: way to go?
Speaker 1: I would agree, but I would also disagree in the
Speaker 1: sense of probably in twenty eight other cities that would
Speaker 1: be the case, but not in New York. If you're
Speaker 1: playing shortstop for the Yankees, they're dissecting your box score
Speaker 1: and that pressure of the pinstripes. Hey, that could be
Speaker 1: a good book, Pressure of the Pinstripes, like a history
Speaker 1: of Yankee players or something. Trademark I'm trademarking it right here,
Speaker 1: that pressure of the Pinstripes. That's tough. And Dad, you
Speaker 1: always mentioned the shortstop obviously, like shortstop historically is just
Speaker 1: like a leader on the team. Then when you bring
Speaker 1: in Derek Jeters years as captain, I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: insane in New York and then he's the defensive captain
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the best defensive shortstop, you might
Speaker 1: be the best defensive player in the league because it's
Speaker 1: such a hard position to play. Nonetheless, Dad, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure if you're a shortstop on a team,
Speaker 1: especially in New York. But you're he comes up, he
Speaker 1: makes a presence, he makes it known, and maybe a
Speaker 1: little less pressure on a young guy without feeling how
Speaker 1: important this job is. It's gonna pay off.
Speaker 5: For him, right.
Speaker 3: And the same night that George Lombard Junior hit a
Speaker 3: home run in his second major league at bat, his
Speaker 3: brother Jacob, who got drafted number one by the Marlins
Speaker 3: in this last draft, he made his pro ball debut
Speaker 3: and in his second at bat as a professional.
Speaker 2: Player he hit a home run.
Speaker 3: So I would call that a pretty good night for
Speaker 3: the Lombard family.
Speaker 2: Agreed, Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: That is a great night for Lombard's across and the board.
Speaker 3: And I love that the Tigers, who have George Lombard
Speaker 3: Senior as one of their coaches, allowed him to leave
Speaker 3: the team so he could watch his boys play in
Speaker 3: their the biggest games.
Speaker 2: Of their lives. You're an agreement that you know, we
Speaker 2: have sixteen eighteen coaches on some team. We love George Lombard.
Speaker 3: He's gonna managed someday, but I think it's it's better
Speaker 3: for everyone if we just let him go for a
Speaker 3: day and let him go watch his kids.
Speaker 2: Agreed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been pretty sad hearing stories of you know,
Speaker 1: dads in baseball missing important days. Help me here. We
Speaker 1: had him on last year at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1: Former Angels manager. It's escaping me.
Speaker 2: Mike Sosha, thank you, No, not Mike Soshia. Phil Nevian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have Phil nevan On who missed so much
Speaker 1: of his son's career because he was in baseball. Now, granted, listen,
Speaker 1: that's your job. I'm not saying, you know, oh, take
Speaker 1: a week off in the middle of the season. That's
Speaker 1: not happening. But it does bum me out when Phil
Speaker 1: nevin told us he was missing big dates in his
Speaker 1: in his son's career.
Speaker 2: You know, I think, I think, I think it's really important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dad, you would never ever miss my opening night
Speaker 1: of musical, that's for sure, Jeff Nicely.
Speaker 3: Nicely Nicely Johnson, not a chance I would miss that.
Speaker 2: So now you're on the boat, you know it.
Speaker 1: I love that story with that musical, because I have
Speaker 1: one big song my sophomore year called Guys and Dolls
Speaker 1: in the musical Guys and Dolls, And I told my
Speaker 1: parents I have a big song, and that song comes
Speaker 1: on intermission. They're both saying that was a great song,
Speaker 1: and I said, just wait till the end. That's the
Speaker 1: song I'm talking about, not the dinky little duet. The
Speaker 1: real song is coming. Sit down, your rocking the boat. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Enough about me, enough about nicely nicely Johnson.
Speaker 3: Text about your team, Jeff, Luisa Rise goes to the
Speaker 3: Phillies first game, he gets two it's and knocks in
Speaker 3: two runs. Will have more on him in the quirk Chins.
Speaker 3: But Jeff, you know, Luisa Rise is a different hitter
Speaker 3: than everyone else today. We've talked about this multiple times.
Speaker 3: In this strikeout era, he puts the ball in play
Speaker 3: and acknowledges I hate to strike out. I saw what
Speaker 3: happened to the Padres when they acquired Louisa Rise. I
Speaker 3: was around that team quite a bit for a while there,
Speaker 3: and to a man, they said, we're a better offensive
Speaker 3: team because we're watching this guy on our team, and
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys looked around and said, you know,
Speaker 3: we we should hit more like him. We should put
Speaker 3: the ball in play more often, we should work a
Speaker 3: better count, we should swing at the first pitch if
Speaker 3: we see something that we can hit. So I'm telling
Speaker 3: you that he's going to make a difference in the
Speaker 3: Phillies offense, not just from his production, but because he's
Speaker 3: going to show everyone else like this is a different.
Speaker 2: Way to hit.
Speaker 3: Now, that doesn't mean that Kyle Schwarber is going to
Speaker 3: stop striking out and because they haven't swinging, miss team
Speaker 3: as does every other team in the major leagues. But
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Luis a Rise will make a difference.
Speaker 2: Agreed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just always thought him and Aaron Judge would make
Speaker 1: a great teammate team pairing. A Rise for.
Speaker 2: The Judge, right, very good, Judge.
Speaker 3: I thought you all. Rise is his nickname, and it
Speaker 3: would have been a Rise Judge.
Speaker 2: A Rise, very good by Jeff.
Speaker 1: I mean on the Phillies. Trust me, I don't need
Speaker 1: them on the New York Yankees, no, thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what to do with the Red Sox, Jeff.
Speaker 3: We bring them up every week, and I don't think
Speaker 3: I can add to this story. But it has to
Speaker 3: be mentioned they've won twenty nine out of thirty four
Speaker 3: games coming into Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the.
Speaker 3: Greatest in season turnarounds that I've ever seen. Thirty two
Speaker 3: and forty six, arguably the most disappointing team in baseball
Speaker 3: this year, and since then they've gone twenty nine and five.
Speaker 3: I just don't see it. And I look at their
Speaker 3: lineup and I still don't see it. And they're doing
Speaker 3: all this without Garrett Crochet, even though they're pitching exceptionally well.
Speaker 3: Are you amazed as I am at this turnaround?
Speaker 1: I mean, Fenway Park is alive. I have friends who
Speaker 1: live in Boston. I remember texting them back in May
Speaker 1: and they're like, this place is dead. Everybody hates the socks,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to go to games. It's miserable. And now
Speaker 1: I'm texting them and they're saying, it is so alive.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable how alive is. Because one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: two is a long season. It can turn around, and
Speaker 1: it has. But it's August the fifth. We got two
Speaker 1: months left. But they are the hottest team in baseball Dad,
Speaker 1: and it isn't close with how good they've been playing lately.
Speaker 2: Oh incredible, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: And then they're the Tigers, Jeff who traded Trek schoobl
Speaker 3: and Casey Miyes, you know, throwing up a white flag
Speaker 3: that we're not going to the playoffs this year, and
Speaker 3: yet they've scored eight plus runs six games in a row.
Speaker 3: And you look at their lineup and you know, you
Speaker 3: see some pretty good hitters, but eight plus runs six
Speaker 3: games in a row. The last time and the only
Speaker 3: other two times in history that the Tigers have done
Speaker 3: that is nineteen twenty two and nineteen twenty seven. So
Speaker 3: it's pretty impressive what they're doing. And the timing is
Speaker 3: just amazing to be they trade away the best pitcher
Speaker 3: in the league and a really good one in Casey Meives,
Speaker 3: and they're starting to surge again, but they're doing it
Speaker 3: with their offense, not with their pitching.
Speaker 2: Amazing, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bats are hot right now and it's good
Speaker 1: to see. But it's also I mean that interview Dad
Speaker 1: with Trek Scooble after his final outing with the Tigers,
Speaker 1: knowing that pretty much was going to get traded. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know how you always say, how can you not
Speaker 1: be romantic about baseball. That's just like such a common saying.
Speaker 1: How can baseball not break your heart? I mean, just
Speaker 1: listening to that, I'm not even a Tigers fan, and
Speaker 1: I was almost in tears because these players mean it.
Speaker 1: They really don't tell me.
Speaker 3: The players don't care, Jeff, just don't because you listen
Speaker 3: to somebody like that, and it matters when you spent
Speaker 3: your whole career with one team. And Detroit is a
Speaker 3: great baseball town. I can certainly see it. I've seen
Speaker 3: stuff like that more. I've seen guys cry more than
Speaker 3: many times over the years when they have to go
Speaker 3: somewhere else. And he won't be crying at the end
Speaker 3: of this year because he's He's going to be great,
Speaker 3: and so are the Dodgers.
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Speaker 3: And last thing, Jeff, and again this is an old
Speaker 3: story by now, but Pete crow Armstrong, who's having a
Speaker 3: great year and is a terrific player, somebody asked him
Speaker 3: a question about what's the what's the rumor or something
Speaker 3: that most intrigues you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, Jeff, but I
Speaker 2: saw this, Dad.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2: Well, well said, what tell us what he said? That
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth didn't exist? Same Ruth didn't exist? What does
Speaker 2: that mean? Jeff?
Speaker 1: Here thinks that it's it's like it's like a tall tale,
Speaker 1: Like it's just not true. It's like like it's an
Speaker 1: urban legend. Yeah, like it's Paul Bunyan or Jonah in
Speaker 1: the Whale or whatever like that. It's just not real
Speaker 1: Bigfoot or what Bigfoot? And we didn't lock Nest, didn't
Speaker 1: Babe Ruth.
Speaker 3: We didn't walk on the moon, and Babe Ruth didn't
Speaker 3: hit seven hundred and fourteen home runs. All right, Instead
Speaker 3: of being offended by it, I got a mild chuckle
Speaker 3: out of it. Let's just be clear again, Jeff, Babe
Speaker 3: Ruth stole one hundred and twenty three bases. He had
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty six triples. He has as many
Speaker 3: career shutouts as Pedro Martinez. He is, by any statistical measure,
Speaker 3: the greatest player of all time. I mean, he was
Speaker 3: the best left handed pitcher in the American League and
Speaker 3: then decided I'm going to become a hitter, and he
Speaker 3: became the greatest hitter statistically we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I can I finish the line for you? How I
Speaker 1: know you're gonna end this since we've been doing this
Speaker 1: and I grew up with you as my dad, so
Speaker 1: don't tell me that he's some big fat guy who
Speaker 1: ate hot dogs and drank beer.
Speaker 2: That's what you would say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And why is it, Jeff, that we turned
Speaker 3: the greatest player of all time into a comic book character,
Speaker 3: a cartoon character, every time we make a movie about him.
Speaker 2: He was a great athlete. He would have he would
Speaker 2: be a great player today.
Speaker 3: And even though Kurgelli told me Matt Stair is way
Speaker 3: better than Babe Ruth, I love Matt Stairs. I'm just
Speaker 3: not buying it. And I'm going to finish with this, Jeff.
Speaker 3: And I've used this before, but Bert Hawkins, great old
Speaker 3: sports writer who was the pr director of the Rangers
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty two, when I became the beat writer
Speaker 3: there for the Dallas Morning News, I said, Hawk, who's the.
Speaker 2: Greatest player you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: He looks at me and he goes, buddy boy, I'll
Speaker 3: take Babe Ruth and you can have the next three amazing.
Speaker 1: That's what he said, you know, Dad, speaking of Babe
Speaker 1: Ruth and movies that he's in. I log into our
Speaker 1: Disney Plus account when we travel, right, we're at an Airbnb,
Speaker 1: we're at a hotel, whatever it might be. Sometimes. Okay,
Speaker 1: every time I forget to sign out on that TV
Speaker 1: before I leave. So every once in a while, I
Speaker 1: see somebody watching something on my Disney Plus account from
Speaker 1: a house I probably stayed at, our a hotel. Well,
Speaker 1: somebody is watching The Sandlot. And normally when I see
Speaker 1: that something that none of my family's watching, I log
Speaker 1: out of all devices and relog in. However, they're watching
Speaker 1: The Sandlot, so I'm gonna let them finish the movie,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna log out of my devices. Like
Speaker 1: they've got great taste. I'm gonna let them watch The Sandlot. See, Babe,
Speaker 1: Ruth the Sultan swat gotta do it?
Speaker 3: See, Jeff, I don't have any problem with things like that,
Speaker 3: because I wouldn't know how to log in and log
Speaker 3: out of these things and the flashlight and a map,
Speaker 3: So never mind, I'm kind of glad.
Speaker 2: So all right, let's go to where do we go from?
Speaker 1: Dad? What do you have?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: So, Jeff, I did Sports Center the other day and
Speaker 3: Michael Leaves said, well, after doing this highlight of this game,
Speaker 3: even Tim Kirchen has never been to a game like this.
Speaker 3: And that was the night that the Yankees and the
Speaker 3: Cardinals played. The Cardinals won. I think it was thirteen
Speaker 3: to seven, but each team hit five home runs in
Speaker 3: the game or more. And yeah, each team hit five homers.
Speaker 3: There were ten total homers hit. And it's the first
Speaker 3: time in the history of Yankee Stadium, new or old
Speaker 3: that both teams hit five homers in the same game.
Speaker 3: And three of those came from Alec Burlson of the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: Tenth time this year that a player has hit three
Speaker 3: home runs in one game. But I had to tell
Speaker 3: Michael Eaves, my friend. I said, Okay, I wasn't at
Speaker 3: that game, but I was at the game in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty seven when the Blue Jays by themselves hit ten
Speaker 3: homers in one game against the Oreoles. I covered that
Speaker 3: game for the Baltimore Sun. So as much as he said,
Speaker 3: even Tim has never been to this game, I have
Speaker 3: a game that's even more remarkable because in that whatever
Speaker 3: eighteen to three win, the Blue Jays hit ten homers,
Speaker 3: a major league record to this day.
Speaker 2: Ten.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of bombs. Man. I would love to
Speaker 1: be in the crowd for that game. That's fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And as I told you, Jeff Hank Peters, the
Speaker 3: general manager of the Orioles was so disgusted after that
Speaker 3: game that he had the video guy q up the
Speaker 3: bats for all ten homers and he calls me into
Speaker 3: his eye. He calls me into his office and says,
Speaker 3: I want to show you something. And he showed me
Speaker 3: the clip. I mean this thing that the guy made
Speaker 3: for him of the ten homers and he said, I
Speaker 3: call it the barrage and it was the entire bats
Speaker 3: for all ten homers. And he said, and we're going
Speaker 3: to show this to our minor leaguers on the proper
Speaker 3: way not.
Speaker 2: To pitch, which I thought was very interesting.
Speaker 3: So ten homers in one game. Now, Jeff, we had
Speaker 3: a lot of fun with. Well, let's go to Luisa Rise.
Speaker 3: We talked about him earlier. So, Jeff, in this era
Speaker 3: of a lot of walks, a lot of strikeouts, and
Speaker 3: a lot of homers, Luise Riise doesn't do any of those.
Speaker 3: But through Tuesday, Nick Kirt, really good player for the A's,
Speaker 3: had fifty one games this year in which he had
Speaker 3: at least least one walk and at least one strikeout.
Speaker 3: So a little bit less than half of the games
Speaker 3: he's played he's got a walk and a strikeout.
Speaker 2: Does that strike you as a lot. Fifty one, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: So Luisa Rise, who just gets a lot of hits,
Speaker 3: doesn't hit a lot of homers rarely, if ever, strikes
Speaker 3: out and doesn't walk very much.
Speaker 2: How many games do you think this.
Speaker 3: Year, Jeff, he's had a walk and a strikeout in
Speaker 3: the same game. Again, Nick Kurtz has fifty one of
Speaker 3: those games. How many games does Luisa Rise have a
Speaker 3: walk and a strikeout?
Speaker 1: It's got to be single digits, so I'm gonna say five.
Speaker 2: All right. Zero.
Speaker 3: Louisia does not have one game this year in which
Speaker 3: he has walked and struck out in the same game.
Speaker 3: He only has forty six of those in his entire career,
Speaker 3: and zero of them this year. Nick Kurtz, fifty one,
Speaker 3: Luisa Raise zero. Okay, you know you know how much
Speaker 3: I love names, Jeff. We got a bunch of names
Speaker 3: to talk about. Antwine Kelly is a left handed pitcher
Speaker 3: for the Cubs, and Antwine Kelly is a right handed
Speaker 3: pitcher for the Pirates.
Speaker 2: I mean, what what now?
Speaker 3: Antoine is not the most common name, but they spell
Speaker 3: their their first names differently, A N T O, I
Speaker 3: N E and A n T W O N E.
Speaker 3: But do you find it odd there are two Antoine
Speaker 3: Kelly's in the major leagues. They're both pitchers, and uh
Speaker 3: they spell their first name differently.
Speaker 2: Is that odd to you or what?
Speaker 1: Well, we need to do team Kelly instead of team
Speaker 1: Tim because we've got Carson Kelly, We've got Antoine Kelly
Speaker 1: and Antoine Kelly. We got plenty of room here, got
Speaker 1: Ben Kelly, plenty of right. That's my buddy from all right,
Speaker 1: not a major leaguer.
Speaker 3: Yes, we also had a little fun in the Rangers
Speaker 3: game the other day. Their picture was cole Win w
Speaker 3: I N N and they're catchure was Austin wins w
Speaker 3: Y and n S. So their battery was win and
Speaker 3: wins wins and of course, of course they lost the game,
Speaker 3: of course, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like Michael Scott too. It's like there's
Speaker 1: different options of negotiations. There's win lose, win win or
Speaker 1: win win win. I want the win win win situation,
Speaker 1: full win and Austin wins.
Speaker 2: That's good, right, all right, all right?
Speaker 3: Last one, Xavian Curry faced Xavier Xavier Edwards the other
Speaker 3: day and in at bat so it was only the
Speaker 3: second time in major league history that a pitcher whose
Speaker 3: first name starts with X faced a hitter whose first
Speaker 3: name starts with X. Xavier Sadanio faced Xander Bogarts in
Speaker 3: five different played appearances. But now we have our second
Speaker 3: X versus X first name at bat in the big leagues.
Speaker 3: Pretty impressive, Jeff, you love.
Speaker 2: That or is it stupid?
Speaker 1: Well? My question is thinking ahead to alpha best. Is
Speaker 1: there X last names?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, So why don't you do X first names just
Speaker 1: for that? Since there's no strongly, there's no options. So
Speaker 1: it's not like we're giving up. We're saying there's zero
Speaker 1: players and pictures that are going to be So I
Speaker 1: think thinking way ahead because today is TEA a little
Speaker 1: bit later in the show, you got to do X
Speaker 1: first names.
Speaker 2: What do you think, right?
Speaker 3: I think Xander Bogart. I haven't done the research. I
Speaker 3: think Xander Bogarts is going to be the position player
Speaker 3: and I don't think Exavier Sadaniel is going to be
Speaker 3: the picture, but he's going to be in the conversation
Speaker 3: because there aren't too many X pictures out there. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of EX pictures, just not a lot of
Speaker 3: X pictures. So that's uh, those are the questions my
Speaker 3: favorite things for the week.
Speaker 1: All right, Dad, let's go into in this state in
Speaker 1: baseball history.
Speaker 3: What do you have a little shorter than usual, Jeff.
Speaker 3: But in nineteen seventy three, Roberto Clemente and Warren Spawn
Speaker 3: on this date went into the Hall of Fame. And
Speaker 3: you'll never get this, Jeff, But what is what? What
Speaker 3: is similar about those two players and not in the
Speaker 3: way they played or anything else. Well, I'll just give
Speaker 3: you the clue. They both wore number twenty one. And
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've ever been killed harder than when
Speaker 3: I on the I think I switched on the I
Speaker 3: once said the greatest number twenty one of all time
Speaker 3: was Warren Spawn because he had thirteen twenty win seasons,
Speaker 3: won three hundred and sixty three games, was a war
Speaker 3: hero and did some amazing things.
Speaker 2: For a couple of teams.
Speaker 3: And I got killed in Pittsburgh so bad. As if
Speaker 3: I don't know who Roberto Clemtti is and don't love
Speaker 3: Robta CLEMTI of course I do. But Warren Spawn was
Speaker 3: pretty good too. So they went in the same year,
Speaker 3: and they're the two greatest number twenty ones of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dad. You know it's interesting too. I looked
Speaker 1: back at that episode when we did From Ozzie to
Speaker 1: Oral last year, the episode following you doing number twenty one,
Speaker 1: lost like half of our listeners. Nobody wanted to listen anymore.
Speaker 1: We just got killed in the ratings.
Speaker 2: No, you're making that up right, baking that up?
Speaker 1: Don't?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Look is trauma from picking Warren spot over Roberto Clamtte.
Speaker 2: God, Yeah, I still have trauma. You're right, okay.
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety three, on this day, Tony Gwinn got hit
Speaker 3: number two thousand.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Tony Gwenn is one of the greatest hitters I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: And you know, we know we talk about Luisa Rise
Speaker 3: being something similar to Tony Gwinn today, Let's understand Tony
Speaker 3: Gwynn hit with more power, drove in more runs, was
Speaker 3: a great defensive right fielder, and stole fifty six bases
Speaker 3: in one season. Luise Rise isn't any of these, even
Speaker 3: though I love Luise Rise, but just remember Jeff Tony
Speaker 3: gwyn Junior had. I mean, Tony Gwynn had two hundred
Speaker 3: and ninety seven three hit games and one three strikeout
Speaker 3: game in his career. Two ninety seven to one. That's
Speaker 3: a pretty good ratio.
Speaker 2: Right, incredible.
Speaker 1: Well, we teased it earlier, Dad, Let's hear the alpha best.
Speaker 3: All right, I it's the letter T. And there were
Speaker 3: some really good candidates, including Hall of Famer Frank Thomas,
Speaker 3: who's one of the best hitters I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: But I'm going with Mike Trout. Mike Trout won.
Speaker 3: Three MVPs, and he finished in the top two of
Speaker 3: the MVP voting in each of his first five full seasons.
Speaker 2: No one else has done that in their first three.
Speaker 3: He did it in his first five again, Rookie of
Speaker 3: the Year, nine times Silver Slugger, twelve time All Stars,
Speaker 3: a War of ninety point nine, which is really high
Speaker 3: given that he's got a lot of career left in him.
Speaker 3: Four under twenty two homers, career ops of nine sixty nine.
Speaker 2: Again, Mike Trout.
Speaker 3: Is the player he used to be, and he got
Speaker 3: hurt a lot, but he's playing now.
Speaker 2: Let's just not.
Speaker 3: Forget how great those first eight or nine years were,
Speaker 3: because people were saying he's the greatest player we've ever seen.
Speaker 3: So if anyone ever asked you again, is he a
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer? The answer is is this a trick question?
Speaker 3: Of course, he's a Hall of Famer and he's the
Speaker 3: greatest T position player ever. Any any argument with that.
Speaker 1: You can't make an argument on that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel bad that players or kids, I should say, fans
Speaker 1: who are growing up right now, young kids who didn't
Speaker 1: get to see Trout, you know, at the beginning of
Speaker 1: his career. They obviously know the stories. But he was
Speaker 1: just so dazzling and so incredible. And he's he's playing
Speaker 1: great again, but he struggled to stay healthy for quite
Speaker 1: a few years there. And I think your T pick
Speaker 1: is an absolute perfect one. Future Hall of Famer Mike
Speaker 1: Trout agreed, and.
Speaker 3: Here's how good he was in his prime and spring
Speaker 3: training one year Raoul Labanya, is his teammate with the Angels,
Speaker 3: told me that that Trout, who loves to compete at
Speaker 3: any game there is, and it doesn't matter what his
Speaker 3: little games on at the ballpark everything else. And he
Speaker 3: looks at Raoul Labanya's during batting practice in Tempe and says,
Speaker 3: I'm going to hit a home run into that trash
Speaker 3: can beyond the left center field fence. And Jeff, it
Speaker 3: wasn't a dumpster, Okay, It was one of those big
Speaker 3: green trash cans, round trash cans that you would see
Speaker 3: at any Major league park, and it was beyond the
Speaker 3: left center field fence, and like ten pitches later, Mike
Speaker 3: Trout hit a home run into that trash can. And
Speaker 3: then he did it again that spring when he said
Speaker 3: that he would insane Mike Trout in his prime, the
Speaker 3: things he could do were unbelievable, all right, Jeff, the pitcher,
Speaker 3: it was a lot harder because I was surprised to
Speaker 3: see unless I miss somebody that and I don't think
Speaker 3: I did that. There's no pitcher in the Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame whose last name starts with T. So I went
Speaker 3: through a bunch of options and I came up with
Speaker 3: Louis Tian, who I think has Hall of Fame credentials.
Speaker 3: Two hundred and twenty nine wins, three point three zero ERA,
Speaker 3: two time ERA title in nineteen sixty eight, Jeff, again,
Speaker 3: it was the year of the pitcher, but Louis Tian
Speaker 3: had a one point six to oh er, but he
Speaker 3: was dwarfed that year by Danny mc clain, who won
Speaker 3: thirty one games and Bob Gibson, who had a one
Speaker 3: point one to two eer.
Speaker 2: But that year Louis Tian threw.
Speaker 3: Two hundred and fifty eight and two thirds innings Jeff,
Speaker 3: and gave up one hundred and fifty two hits. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's like a historically low hits for nine innings rate
Speaker 3: from him. And he pitched in a lot of big games.
Speaker 3: Let's never forget how dazzling he was, especially for the
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy five Red Sox in the in the World Series.
Speaker 3: And he would turn his back on the hitter, the
Speaker 3: gyrations on the mound, the way he could hide the ball,
Speaker 3: the deception.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I've I'm not sure I've ever watched.
Speaker 3: A pitcher who was more entertaining to watch than him,
Speaker 3: because every delivery was a little bit different. He would
Speaker 3: he would quicken it, he would slow it down, he
Speaker 3: would turn his back on the hitter. It's too bad, Jeff,
Speaker 3: that you never saw Louis tion pitching his prime, because
Speaker 3: it was really breathtaking to watch.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, incredible and great picks, Dad, great picks for
Speaker 1: Alphabet team, and I feel like the Alphabet is going
Speaker 1: to lead us right into Team Tim.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, you are right, Jeff, because I don't think
Speaker 3: we've ever done this, but given that Mike Trout is
Speaker 3: our greatest team, we came up with the All Fish Team.
Speaker 3: So we'll start in the outfield. Since we're starting with
Speaker 3: Mike Trout. Mike Trout, Tim Salmon, also a star with
Speaker 3: the Angels in Prime, and Kevin Bast are our outfielders.
Speaker 3: We have Mike Karp at first base, Marlon Anderson at
Speaker 3: second base, Angel Aragon he played the early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 3: I'd never heard of him. Sorry, he's our third baseman.
Speaker 3: There is such a thing called an angelfish, and Bobby
Speaker 3: Sturgeon is our shortstop. Oscar Hernandez is our catcher. Art
Speaker 3: Herring is one of our pitchers, and our star pitcher
Speaker 3: is Catfish Hunter. So that is the All Fish Team.
Speaker 3: Inspired by Mike Trout. Thoughts on that, Jeff, all.
Speaker 1: I can do is give it up, Dad. I can
Speaker 1: give it up to you because you always find a
Speaker 1: way to bring a team tim to the table, and
Speaker 1: I'm always impressed with it. I have to say you
Speaker 1: do a fine job, and I'm I'm just proud to
Speaker 1: be your son. That you spent all this time working
Speaker 1: on these it means a lot to Jeff.
Speaker 2: You can make a good case.
Speaker 3: The two of the five greatest Angels, maybe the two
Speaker 3: four greatest Angels are Mike Trout and Tim Salmon, and
Speaker 3: both have the names of a fish.
Speaker 1: Look, it's too perfect, Dad, it's absolutely perfect. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we did team Tim, all right, But now I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit worried because usually we communicate do you have
Speaker 1: three cards with you?
Speaker 3: I do not. I'm on the road, Jeff, and I
Speaker 3: did not lift three cards out of the bathroom, nor
Speaker 3: did I meet three Atlanta Brave Stars in the bathroom
Speaker 3: this week. I did last week in Cooper's Down. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to count on you.
Speaker 1: How about we do this. We'll go to a quick
Speaker 1: commercial break, and then after we'll do three cards in
Speaker 1: Jeff's closet. I'll surprise Dad with three cards whatever we
Speaker 1: can get out, and then he gets to riff on
Speaker 1: each one. Okay, that's coming up next on it's just
Speaker 1: a great game or what?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Dad? I grabbed three cards from my closet. Are you
Speaker 1: ready for three cards? Here we go. First, one out
Speaker 1: wearing an Orioles jersey. It's Albert Bell.
Speaker 2: Oh boy.
Speaker 3: Albert Bell is one of the most fearsome sluggers I've
Speaker 3: ever seen the numbers he has. Some of them at
Speaker 3: least are Hall of Fame worthy, but he's never come close.
Speaker 3: Of course, he had a fifty homer fifty double season
Speaker 3: and wow, I gotta be careful with this. But I
Speaker 3: went to do a story for Sports Illustrated on young
Speaker 3: sluggers in the Major League. This was in the mid
Speaker 3: nineties and Albert Bell was the first guy on the
Speaker 3: list because he was young and he was a devastating slugger.
Speaker 3: So I called PR because Albert was a difficult guy
Speaker 3: to deal with, and I said, I'm coming in to
Speaker 3: talk to Albert Bell. Can you check to see if
Speaker 3: I'm not wasting my time coming there? And they talked
Speaker 3: to Albert and he said, yeah, I'll talk to him.
Speaker 3: So I got there and I said, Hi, you know,
Speaker 3: i'm Tim Kirkchen with the ESPN.
Speaker 2: I mean, hi, I'm Tim.
Speaker 3: Kirkchin with Sports Illustrated, and I'm here to talk to
Speaker 3: you about the story. And he just looks at me
Speaker 3: and goes, well, I'm not talking to you. And I
Speaker 3: said why. I said, you said you would through the
Speaker 3: PR department. He goes, well, I don't care what I
Speaker 3: said to them, I'm not talking to you because you know,
Speaker 3: there is an SI Jinx and anybody who ever appears
Speaker 3: in sports.
Speaker 2: That's what he said.
Speaker 3: So I kind of chuckled it off and said, Albert,
Speaker 3: I don't think there really is an SI Jinks and
Speaker 3: he goes, well, I'm not taking any chances and I'm
Speaker 3: not talking to you.
Speaker 2: So that was it.
Speaker 3: And when Albert played for the Orioles, and again he
Speaker 3: was not the same slugger with them, but he was
Speaker 3: a dangerous hitter back then too. I'll never forget after games,
Speaker 3: you know, everyone would have a pre postgame meal. Albert
Speaker 3: would sit at his locker like by himself and had
Speaker 3: three like yogurts lined up, like three great yogurts. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure what the flavor was, but he would eat
Speaker 3: those three yogurts. And he also loved to play chess,
Speaker 3: which really didn't fit the rest of his personality, but
Speaker 3: apparently he was a really good chess player as well
Speaker 3: as a great power hitter in the major leagues.
Speaker 2: Even though he didn't want to talk to me, he.
Speaker 1: Didn't want to talk to Tim Kirkshon of Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 1: He will talk to Tim Kirkshen of ESPN or I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a great game or what.
Speaker 2: But no, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: All right, Next card Troy Gloss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Troy Gloss was a really good player for the Angels,
Speaker 3: a third baseman. But he's another one of those guys
Speaker 3: who played shortstop growing up because cal Ripken broke the
Speaker 3: mold and showed a lot of big guys, and Troy
Speaker 3: Gloss was a big man that you could play shortstop.
Speaker 3: Now he got so big, but he was really They
Speaker 3: moved into third base and he was a really good
Speaker 3: defensive third baseman. Also had a great sense of humor
Speaker 3: and was the third baseman on the world champion Angels
Speaker 3: in two thousand and two. But towards the end of
Speaker 3: his career, he was playing with the Braves. It might
Speaker 3: have been his last year and I got to talk then.
Speaker 3: This is years ago, Jeff, but this is when velocity
Speaker 3: really started to tick upwards, and he told me, he said,
Speaker 3: I have to cheat on every fastball in every game
Speaker 3: now because the velocity we're seeing is so enormous that
Speaker 3: I have to. When I say cheat, Jeff, he's got
Speaker 3: to get out there early to try to catch up
Speaker 3: to you know, mid nineties, low nineties, well, mid nineties fastballs,
Speaker 3: and now everyone throws in.
Speaker 2: The mid nineties.
Speaker 3: Just another reminder how much harder everybody throws today and
Speaker 3: how much better the stuff is that we've ever seen that.
Speaker 3: Not everyone knows what to do with that stuff. But
Speaker 3: Troy Gloss at least ten years ago, what was his
Speaker 3: last year, Jeff, look it up.
Speaker 1: Well, all I have here is this is his two
Speaker 1: thousand and one card, so I have that he led
Speaker 1: the majors tied for forty seven homers in two thousand.
Speaker 1: I don't have his baseball reference up, and I can
Speaker 1: pull it together.
Speaker 2: What do you need from never mind?
Speaker 3: I was just trying to recall the conversation I had
Speaker 3: with him about how hard everyone throws today and the
Speaker 3: adjustments that he had to make just to catch up
Speaker 3: with the best fastballs in the big leagues, because he said,
Speaker 3: we see him like every night now.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, right, he.
Speaker 1: Dad, I want to read what was on the back
Speaker 1: of the card I pulled, Okay, Yeah, he said Troy
Speaker 1: Gloss could do without the adelation, preferring to let his
Speaker 1: explosive bat make the statements.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 1: That's the way my mother raised me. He says, it's
Speaker 1: rude to just talk about what you're doing.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 1: How great is that his mom makes an appearance on
Speaker 1: the back of his card. That's cool.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: And let's see how great your memory is, Jeff. What
Speaker 3: when Steve Rushall was on three years in a row?
Speaker 3: We made him tell the story. What was on the
Speaker 3: back of lou Brock's baseball.
Speaker 1: He was serving ice cream? Right, he was at the
Speaker 1: ice parlor.
Speaker 2: No, no, he was delivering flowers. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: And then and then there's a picture on the back
Speaker 3: of the baseball card of lou Brock in his cardinal
Speaker 3: uniform on your doorstep holding flowers, and young Steve Russia thought,
Speaker 3: this is the greatest thing ever. The star left fielder
Speaker 3: for the Cardinals will, in full uniform come over your
Speaker 3: house and deliver flowers.
Speaker 2: How great?
Speaker 1: It's amazing, incredible, all right, dad, last card, I picked
Speaker 1: a manager card Jack McKeon.
Speaker 2: Oh love Jack mckinn.
Speaker 3: So in two thousand and three, the Marlins were struggling badly,
Speaker 3: so they made a managerial change and moved Jack mckinn
Speaker 3: into the manager's roll. And they got red hot and
Speaker 3: ended up beating the Yankees in the World Series in
Speaker 3: two thousand and three. And Jack mckein was an older
Speaker 3: man at the time, and he once told me, as
Speaker 3: an older manager, that he wanted to wear a coat
Speaker 3: and tie a full suit to the mound because that's
Speaker 3: what the manager who managed more games than anyone in history,
Speaker 3: Connie Mack, used to do.
Speaker 2: Connie Mack used.
Speaker 3: To go to the mound because he wasn't wearing a uniform,
Speaker 3: he was wearing a suit. And Jack McKeon thought it
Speaker 3: would be a great publicity stunt, for lack of a
Speaker 3: better term, for him to go out to the mound
Speaker 3: wearing a suit as opposed to a baseball uniform. Would
Speaker 3: you have enjoyed that?
Speaker 1: I love that so much. Classic. I mean, that's some
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson era stuff there. I love it. And on
Speaker 1: the back of his card Dad it said he was
Speaker 1: commonly given the nickname Trader Jack because of his willingness
Speaker 1: to make multiplayer deals.
Speaker 2: I love Jack, Trader Jack.
Speaker 3: I should have known Trader Joe's is a great grocery store.
Speaker 2: Trader Jack.
Speaker 3: And yes, when he was a Padres general manager, you
Speaker 3: went to the winter meetings, you better watch out trader.
Speaker 3: Jack is going to do something crazy, and he often
Speaker 3: did because he loved the excitement of that.
Speaker 2: So that's Jack mckeonn. He was one of our favorites.
Speaker 1: That's so so great. Well, Dad, I know this has
Speaker 1: been a nuts week for you with the trade deadline
Speaker 1: and everything going on, and you're bouncing around. But we're
Speaker 1: excited because this weekend you will be at my house
Speaker 1: for my daughter's third birthday. It's also my birthday, but
Speaker 1: we don't really worry about that. My daughter is starting three.
Speaker 1: We have a birthday party. You're gonna be here. We're
Speaker 1: gonna record the podcast in the basement. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3: So McKinley Hope will turn three on Monday, but we'll
Speaker 3: celebrate it on Saturday. Jeffrey will turn thirty three on
Speaker 3: Sunday and we'll celebrate it on Sunday and tell everyone,
Speaker 3: jeff what your one wish is on your birthday one?
Speaker 3: It's not your wish, one of the wishes that you
Speaker 3: asked for on your birthday.
Speaker 1: I said that I wanted to watch the Phillies game
Speaker 1: at one o'clock on my birthday, relatively uninterrupted. My children
Speaker 1: are more than welcome to be in the house on
Speaker 1: the couch in front of me, But I don't want
Speaker 1: to get pulled in nine different directions to get bottles
Speaker 1: and change diapers. I want to just sit and enjoy
Speaker 1: a baseball game, and if the weather permits out on
Speaker 1: my deck, I would enjoy that, but it looking like
Speaker 1: there could be rained this weekend. Nonetheless, I want to
Speaker 1: watch baseball live, uninterrupted, possibly with a drink in my hand.
Speaker 1: Sounds good to be.
Speaker 3: Right, all right, I'll get me a white claw now
Speaker 3: that I know what a white claw is. And Jeff,
Speaker 3: this warms my heart that my son, who liked baseball
Speaker 3: a lot growing up, likes it even more now. Would
Speaker 3: that's his wish on his birthday is to watch the
Speaker 3: Phillies for all nine innings while drinking a beer.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 3: I'll be upstairs watching guys and dolls while you're downstairs
Speaker 3: watching baseball. But nicely, nicely, Johnson, I'll sit down. You're
Speaker 3: rocking the boat. You did such a great job on that, Jeff,
Speaker 3: and I never ever got nervous when your sister would
Speaker 3: play soccer or basketball. I always got nervous, especially basketball,
Speaker 3: but I always knew you were going to kill it
Speaker 3: and you killed it in nicely, nicely Johnson.
Speaker 2: Guys and Dolls, What was the first song in that
Speaker 2: show that TJ Quinn knew the name of?
Speaker 1: It was a fugue for tin Horns. I believe Rightow,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I remembered that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe TJ. Quinn remember that. Well, he's
Speaker 3: an investigative reporter. I guess he should have known that.
Speaker 3: But he knew all the songs from Guys and Dolls
Speaker 3: and I only knew one, and that was sit Down,
Speaker 3: You're rocking the Boat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the opening song is about three degenerate
Speaker 1: horse gamblers for high school.
Speaker 3: Oh well, Jeff, I can't wait for your thirty third birthday.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for Kinley's third birthday. And just sign
Speaker 3: us off, and because I got a lot of Sports
Speaker 3: Center in baseball, tonight's.
Speaker 2: To do tonight.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Thanks for watching it as always, thanks
Speaker 1: for being a part of our family.