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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to Is this a great game or

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<v Speaker 1>what with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkchin. I'm his son,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Kirchin. Again, you have outdressed me, Dad, But you

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<v Speaker 1>are again at ESPN doing all of the broadcasts. I

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<v Speaker 1>see you on TV all the time, Sports Center, Baseball Tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>doing all the things. And we're still talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline. We did a special episode back on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Jim Bowden on the show the day before that.

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<v Speaker 1>So this has been such a fun week in Major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball, right Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>And not only have I outdressed you, Jeff, I am

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<v Speaker 3>wearing makeup today too. And for everyone in our business

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<v Speaker 3>knows how to do his or her own makeup, I

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<v Speaker 3>of course don't, so when I come into ESPN, they

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<v Speaker 3>put makeup on me, which is always helpful. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>my first year at ESPN. I looked at one of

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<v Speaker 3>the makeup artists, I having never done makeup before, and said,

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<v Speaker 3>do do I need makeup? It was a rhetorical question,

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<v Speaker 3>but she said, yes, you need a lot of makeup.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was I thought that was a bit unnecessary,

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<v Speaker 3>but she laughed. I laughed, of course, why wouldn't we

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<v Speaker 3>more important, Jeff, this is your last Is this a

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<v Speaker 3>great game episode that we're going to do with you

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<v Speaker 3>as a thirty two year old, because on Sunday, August

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<v Speaker 3>the ninth, you will turn How old will you be?

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be thirty three years old?

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff. Sorry, that's so great, right, And who's our greatest

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<v Speaker 3>number thirty three in baseball history? Let's see if you

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<v Speaker 3>can remember that, Jeff. He hit the most sacrificed flies

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<v Speaker 3>of anyone in history and yet never led the league

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<v Speaker 3>in sacrifice flies.

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<v Speaker 2>In any one season.

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<v Speaker 3>He hit five hundred homers, and for me, after Mickey Mantle,

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<v Speaker 3>he might be might be the greatest wwitch hitter ever

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<v Speaker 3>Number thirty three, Jeff Eddie Murraha, Yes, yes, Jeff, you

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<v Speaker 3>got it on the eighth clue.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, really, the five hundred homers automatically, like tons of

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<v Speaker 1>players just leave the memory, right, because you're just five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred club is unbelievable. I mean, you're almost automatically a

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer. I'm not making takes here. I know

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<v Speaker 1>steroid era excuse me really fast, but you know, excluding

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, five hundred home runs pretty much put you

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame. It took me a second

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<v Speaker 1>to get there switch hitter and nailed it. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ever get questions right. I got that one right.

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<v Speaker 2>You did. Way to go, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I need makeup today because I haven't slept

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<v Speaker 3>in two days because my flight got canceled. My morning

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<v Speaker 3>flight got canceled two days in a row, which caused

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<v Speaker 3>a few issues, especially for poor pop pop, who you know,

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<v Speaker 3>has to have things in order then when they get

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<v Speaker 3>thrown out of order. But I made it, and I

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<v Speaker 3>made it to ESPN today and I'll be here tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're all good.

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<v Speaker 2>Every thing is good. But I need a little sleep, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully Wednesday night tonight, when we're after a recording, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get some sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good. Yeah, I mean, Dad, you taught me

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<v Speaker 1>growing up you'll never remember how tired you were. And

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, after raising one daughter now too, I surely

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<v Speaker 1>remember how tired I was. But the point you always

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<v Speaker 1>made to me was, hey, like do the things because

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a memory to have. You're always gonna

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<v Speaker 1>remember this trade deadline. It's been crazy, but it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're having a great time hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>your friends at ESPN and doing all these shows and

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<v Speaker 1>doing this dinky little podcast with me. I'm exhausted all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I just submitted a form, Dad, I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>I submitted a form to run to be a director

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<v Speaker 1>of our HLA in my new neighborhood. What am I doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff?

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<v Speaker 3>That might be the dumbest decision you never made, other

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<v Speaker 3>than growing a mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Dad? Oh gosh, because I really care about this neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in a brand new build in Pennsylvania, forty two homes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to make sure that you know this

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood remained safe and clean and beautiful. And a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of neighbors came to me after I'd had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of drinks on the fourth of July and said, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>you would be really good on the H twoa board.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows you and loves you. So I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Yeah, I'm going for it, all right, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I Dad, you know what happened. I ran for

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<v Speaker 1>the board in my old neighborhood. Have I ever told

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<v Speaker 1>you this story. I became a member of the board,

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<v Speaker 1>three members. Right the election comes up. I came in fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was only brought onto the board because somebody died.

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<v Speaker 1>So a guy died on the board, and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just get the guy who came in fourth, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they said, all right, you're so. I didn't even win,

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<v Speaker 1>but somebody had hie. And listen, Las Vegas Police is

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<v Speaker 1>still trying to call me asking if I know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I'm the number one suspect, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>natural causes. I had nothing to do with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care that much about being on the h It

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't kill for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The great Stephen Wright once said, Jeff curiosity killed the cat,

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<v Speaker 3>but for a while I was a suspect. Love Stephen, right,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, but I also love Jeff Is. We still

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<v Speaker 3>have people talking about a bases loaded walk off automatic

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<v Speaker 3>double that Raphael Dever's hit. He got credit for a

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<v Speaker 3>single and one RBI instead of a double and two RBIs,

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<v Speaker 3>and we still have people chiming in on that. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>love that. We've hit kind of a nerve here. But

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<v Speaker 3>Frank from the Elias just texted me out of nowhere

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<v Speaker 3>the other day to say he was so intrigued by that,

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<v Speaker 3>and he does this for a living, that he went

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<v Speaker 3>back in baseball history and was looking like in the

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<v Speaker 3>early nineteen hundreds, and there weren't many homers in the

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<v Speaker 3>early nineteen hundreds. But if you hit a walk off homer,

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<v Speaker 3>they would only give you the number of RBIs until

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<v Speaker 3>the game was over. In other words, if you hit

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<v Speaker 3>a walk off Grand Slam with a one run lead,

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<v Speaker 3>you would only get I mean, in a tie game,

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<v Speaker 3>you would only get one RBI because you won the

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<v Speaker 3>game with one run and the other three runs.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't even count. Are you surprised to hear that?

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<v Speaker 1>I just love that he got excited about it, because

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<v Speaker 1>if he got excited about it, then we know there's

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<v Speaker 1>something there for sure, right right?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, you know, what should we call the three

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<v Speaker 3>pitches three outs in one inning? I said we should

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<v Speaker 3>call it a saying named after Johnny Saying, the great

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<v Speaker 3>pitching coach and the very good pitcher Boston Braves and

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<v Speaker 3>others in the forties and fifties. So somebody run and

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<v Speaker 3>Johnny saying, of course war number thirty three, which has

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<v Speaker 3>something to do with the choice there. But somebody wrote

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<v Speaker 3>in and said, if anyone ever retires three batters on

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<v Speaker 3>three pitches two innings in a row, so six pitches,

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<v Speaker 3>six outs. It should be called an alfonseka oh ah,

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<v Speaker 3>six and six because Antonio Alfonseca, who has come up

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<v Speaker 3>at least a dozen times on this podcast this year,

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<v Speaker 3>has six fingers on each hand and six toes on

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<v Speaker 3>each feet foot. So if we ever get anyone, and

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<v Speaker 3>we never will, who gets a three out, three pitch,

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<v Speaker 3>three outs in the first, three pitches, three outs in

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<v Speaker 3>the second, we will call that an Alfonseca.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's an absolute must. Hands up there, it

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<v Speaker 1>is six and six. You did it? What is up

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<v Speaker 1>with this podcast? Who is going to be the obscure

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<v Speaker 1>player we mentioned five hundred times next season? Only time

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<v Speaker 1>will tell because it just happens. I mean, watch Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, Alphanseeka. I mean, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>Dad? Right? I totally agree. It's so good? All right, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>The take Go ahead, All right, dad, let's roll right

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<v Speaker 1>into the takeaways. What do you got?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? So in love?

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<v Speaker 3>What the Yankees did? The Yankees are in trouble, especially offensively. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna pitch their way into the playoffs and they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a dangerous team in October. But we're still

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<v Speaker 3>not sure about Aaron Judge when he's coming back and

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<v Speaker 3>what he's gonna look like when he comes back. So

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<v Speaker 3>the Yankees, needing like a burst of energy, called up

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<v Speaker 3>George Lombard Junior, who is a twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 3>shortstop and their best prospect and one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>prospects in baseball. And in his first game playing shortstop

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<v Speaker 3>for the Yankees, hitting seventh in his second career at

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<v Speaker 3>bad he had a home run. And I am a

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<v Speaker 3>big believer Jeff that this is what you do when

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<v Speaker 3>you need a spark. Sometimes the best thing to do

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<v Speaker 3>is to not make a trade. It's to bring up

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<v Speaker 3>your best kid in the minor leagues and see if

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<v Speaker 3>he can provide the energy and at least for one game.

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<v Speaker 3>George Lombard Junior, did that? You agree that that? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone looks around and goes, hey, the kid is here,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see what we do with this. And there's no

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<v Speaker 3>real pressure on the kid, because the pressure is winning

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<v Speaker 3>games every night, as opposed to I've seen it, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>you bring up a kid when the team is hopelessly

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<v Speaker 3>out of the Pennant race, and then it's all about him.

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<v Speaker 3>They dissect every single at bat and if he goes

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<v Speaker 3>oh for six, people are saying, what's wrong with the kid? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not going to say that if he gets off

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<v Speaker 3>to a bad start, because they have bigger things to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about, that is the winning and losing of games.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they gonna win the division title? Where you know

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<v Speaker 3>that type of thing. Do you agree that's the right

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<v Speaker 3>way to go?

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree, but I would also disagree in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense of probably in twenty eight other cities that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the case, but not in New York. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing shortstop for the Yankees, they're dissecting your box score

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<v Speaker 1>and that pressure of the pinstripes. Hey, that could be

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<v Speaker 1>a good book, Pressure of the Pinstripes, like a history

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<v Speaker 1>of Yankee players or something. Trademark I'm trademarking it right here,

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<v Speaker 1>that pressure of the Pinstripes. That's tough. And Dad, you

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<v Speaker 1>always mentioned the shortstop obviously, like shortstop historically is just

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<v Speaker 1>like a leader on the team. Then when you bring

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<v Speaker 1>in Derek Jeters years as captain, I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>insane in New York and then he's the defensive captain

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're the best defensive shortstop, you might

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<v Speaker 1>be the best defensive player in the league because it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a hard position to play. Nonetheless, Dad, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pressure if you're a shortstop on a team,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in New York. But you're he comes up, he

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<v Speaker 1>makes a presence, he makes it known, and maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little less pressure on a young guy without feeling how

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<v Speaker 1>important this job is. It's gonna pay off.

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<v Speaker 5>For him, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And the same night that George Lombard Junior hit a

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<v Speaker 3>home run in his second major league at bat, his

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<v Speaker 3>brother Jacob, who got drafted number one by the Marlins

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<v Speaker 3>in this last draft, he made his pro ball debut

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<v Speaker 3>and in his second at bat as a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>Player he hit a home run.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would call that a pretty good night for

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<v Speaker 3>the Lombard family.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed, Yeah, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a great night for Lombard's across and the board.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love that the Tigers, who have George Lombard

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<v Speaker 3>Senior as one of their coaches, allowed him to leave

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<v Speaker 3>the team so he could watch his boys play in

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<v Speaker 3>their the biggest games.

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<v Speaker 2>Of their lives. You're an agreement that you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have sixteen eighteen coaches on some team. We love George Lombard.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna managed someday, but I think it's it's better

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<v Speaker 3>for everyone if we just let him go for a

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<v Speaker 3>day and let him go watch his kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been pretty sad hearing stories of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dads in baseball missing important days. Help me here. We

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<v Speaker 1>had him on last year at the beginning of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Angels manager. It's escaping me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Sosha, thank you, No, not Mike Soshia. Phil Nevian.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have Phil nevan On who missed so much

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<v Speaker 1>of his son's career because he was in baseball. Now, granted, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your job. I'm not saying, you know, oh, take

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<v Speaker 1>a week off in the middle of the season. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not happening. But it does bum me out when Phil

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<v Speaker 1>nevin told us he was missing big dates in his

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<v Speaker 1>in his son's career.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think, I think, I think it's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dad, you would never ever miss my opening night

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<v Speaker 1>of musical, that's for sure, Jeff Nicely.

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<v Speaker 3>Nicely Nicely Johnson, not a chance I would miss that.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you're on the boat, you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that story with that musical, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>one big song my sophomore year called Guys and Dolls

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<v Speaker 1>in the musical Guys and Dolls, And I told my

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<v Speaker 1>parents I have a big song, and that song comes

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<v Speaker 1>on intermission. They're both saying that was a great song,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, just wait till the end. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>song I'm talking about, not the dinky little duet. The

0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.760
<v Speaker 1>real song is coming. Sit down, your rocking the boat. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Enough about me, enough about nicely nicely Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>Text about your team, Jeff, Luisa Rise goes to the

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies first game, he gets two it's and knocks in

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<v Speaker 3>two runs. Will have more on him in the quirk Chins.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jeff, you know, Luisa Rise is a different hitter

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<v Speaker 3>than everyone else today. We've talked about this multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>In this strikeout era, he puts the ball in play

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<v Speaker 3>and acknowledges I hate to strike out. I saw what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to the Padres when they acquired Louisa Rise. I

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<v Speaker 3>was around that team quite a bit for a while there,

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<v Speaker 3>and to a man, they said, we're a better offensive

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<v Speaker 3>team because we're watching this guy on our team, and

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of guys looked around and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we we should hit more like him. We should put

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in play more often, we should work a

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<v Speaker 3>better count, we should swing at the first pitch if

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<v Speaker 3>we see something that we can hit. So I'm telling

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<v Speaker 3>you that he's going to make a difference in the

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies offense, not just from his production, but because he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to show everyone else like this is a different.

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<v Speaker 2>Way to hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that doesn't mean that Kyle Schwarber is going to

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<v Speaker 3>stop striking out and because they haven't swinging, miss team

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<v Speaker 3>as does every other team in the major leagues. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, Luis a Rise will make a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just always thought him and Aaron Judge would make

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<v Speaker 1>a great teammate team pairing. A Rise for.

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<v Speaker 2>The Judge, right, very good, Judge.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you all. Rise is his nickname, and it

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<v Speaker 3>would have been a Rise Judge.

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<v Speaker 2>A Rise, very good by Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean on the Phillies. Trust me, I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>them on the New York Yankees, no, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what to do with the Red Sox, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>We bring them up every week, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I can add to this story. But it has to

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<v Speaker 3>be mentioned they've won twenty nine out of thirty four

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<v Speaker 3>games coming into Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's one of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Greatest in season turnarounds that I've ever seen. Thirty two

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<v Speaker 3>and forty six, arguably the most disappointing team in baseball

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<v Speaker 3>this year, and since then they've gone twenty nine and five.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't see it. And I look at their

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<v Speaker 3>lineup and I still don't see it. And they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>all this without Garrett Crochet, even though they're pitching exceptionally well.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you amazed as I am at this turnaround?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Fenway Park is alive. I have friends who

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<v Speaker 1>live in Boston. I remember texting them back in May

0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, this place is dead. Everybody hates the socks,

0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.840
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to go to games. It's miserable. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm texting them and they're saying, it is so alive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable how alive is. Because one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two is a long season. It can turn around, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has. But it's August the fifth. We got two

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<v Speaker 1>months left. But they are the hottest team in baseball Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and it isn't close with how good they've been playing lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh incredible, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they're the Tigers, Jeff who traded Trek schoobl

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<v Speaker 3>and Casey Miyes, you know, throwing up a white flag

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<v Speaker 3>that we're not going to the playoffs this year, and

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<v Speaker 3>yet they've scored eight plus runs six games in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>And you look at their lineup and you know, you

0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.399
<v Speaker 3>see some pretty good hitters, but eight plus runs six

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<v Speaker 3>games in a row. The last time and the only

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<v Speaker 3>other two times in history that the Tigers have done

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<v Speaker 3>that is nineteen twenty two and nineteen twenty seven. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty impressive what they're doing. And the timing is

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<v Speaker 3>just amazing to be they trade away the best pitcher

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<v Speaker 3>in the league and a really good one in Casey Meives,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're starting to surge again, but they're doing it

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<v Speaker 3>with their offense, not with their pitching.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the bats are hot right now and it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to see. But it's also I mean that interview Dad

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<v Speaker 1>with Trek Scooble after his final outing with the Tigers,

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.280
<v Speaker 1>knowing that pretty much was going to get traded. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how you always say, how can you not

0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.399
<v Speaker 1>be romantic about baseball. That's just like such a common saying.

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<v Speaker 1>How can baseball not break your heart? I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>listening to that, I'm not even a Tigers fan, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was almost in tears because these players mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>They really don't tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>The players don't care, Jeff, just don't because you listen

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<v Speaker 3>to somebody like that, and it matters when you spent

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<v Speaker 3>your whole career with one team. And Detroit is a

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<v Speaker 3>great baseball town. I can certainly see it. I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that more. I've seen guys cry more than

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<v Speaker 3>many times over the years when they have to go

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else. And he won't be crying at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of this year because he's He's going to be great,

0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:58.360
<v Speaker 3>and so are the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>And last thing, Jeff, and again this is an old

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.080
<v Speaker 3>story by now, but Pete crow Armstrong, who's having a

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 3>great year and is a terrific player, somebody asked him

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.160
<v Speaker 3>a question about what's the what's the rumor or something

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<v Speaker 3>that most intrigues you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw this, Jeff, but I

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<v Speaker 2>saw this, Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well said, what tell us what he said? That

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<v Speaker 2>Babe Ruth didn't exist? Same Ruth didn't exist? What does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean? Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>Here thinks that it's it's like it's like a tall tale,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just not true. It's like like it's an

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<v Speaker 1>urban legend. Yeah, like it's Paul Bunyan or Jonah in

0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the Whale or whatever like that. It's just not real

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot or what Bigfoot? And we didn't lock Nest, didn't

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Babe Ruth.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't walk on the moon, and Babe Ruth didn't

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<v Speaker 3>hit seven hundred and fourteen home runs. All right, Instead

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.800
<v Speaker 3>of being offended by it, I got a mild chuckle

0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.200
<v Speaker 3>out of it. Let's just be clear again, Jeff, Babe

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Ruth stole one hundred and twenty three bases. He had

0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and thirty six triples. He has as many

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<v Speaker 3>career shutouts as Pedro Martinez. He is, by any statistical measure,

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest player of all time. I mean, he was

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 3>the best left handed pitcher in the American League and

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 3>then decided I'm going to become a hitter, and he

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<v Speaker 3>became the greatest hitter statistically we've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I can I finish the line for you? How I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna end this since we've been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>and I grew up with you as my dad, so

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell me that he's some big fat guy who

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<v Speaker 1>ate hot dogs and drank beer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you would say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, And why is it, Jeff, that we turned

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest player of all time into a comic book character,

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<v Speaker 3>a cartoon character, every time we make a movie about him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a great athlete. He would have he would

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<v Speaker 2>be a great player today.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though Kurgelli told me Matt Stair is way

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<v Speaker 3>better than Babe Ruth, I love Matt Stairs. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>not buying it. And I'm going to finish with this, Jeff.

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 3>And I've used this before, but Bert Hawkins, great old

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<v Speaker 3>sports writer who was the pr director of the Rangers

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty two, when I became the beat writer

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 3>there for the Dallas Morning News, I said, Hawk, who's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Greatest player you've ever seen?

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<v Speaker 3>He looks at me and he goes, buddy boy, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>take Babe Ruth and you can have the next three amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he said, you know, Dad, speaking of Babe

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth and movies that he's in. I log into our

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<v Speaker 1>Disney Plus account when we travel, right, we're at an Airbnb,

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<v Speaker 1>we're at a hotel, whatever it might be. Sometimes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>every time I forget to sign out on that TV

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<v Speaker 1>before I leave. So every once in a while, I

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<v Speaker 1>see somebody watching something on my Disney Plus account from

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<v Speaker 1>a house I probably stayed at, our a hotel. Well,

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>somebody is watching The Sandlot. And normally when I see

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>that something that none of my family's watching, I log

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<v Speaker 1>out of all devices and relog in. However, they're watching

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<v Speaker 1>The Sandlot, so I'm gonna let them finish the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm gonna log out of my devices. Like

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<v Speaker 1>they've got great taste. I'm gonna let them watch The Sandlot. See, Babe,

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth the Sultan swat gotta do it?

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<v Speaker 3>See, Jeff, I don't have any problem with things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>because I wouldn't know how to log in and log

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<v Speaker 3>out of these things and the flashlight and a map,

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<v Speaker 3>So never mind, I'm kind of glad.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, let's go to where do we go from?

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<v Speaker 1>Dad? What do you have?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>So, Jeff, I did Sports Center the other day and

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Leaves said, well, after doing this highlight of this game,

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<v Speaker 3>even Tim Kirchen has never been to a game like this.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was the night that the Yankees and the

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<v Speaker 3>Cardinals played. The Cardinals won. I think it was thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>to seven, but each team hit five home runs in

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<v Speaker 3>the game or more. And yeah, each team hit five homers.

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<v Speaker 3>There were ten total homers hit. And it's the first

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<v Speaker 3>time in the history of Yankee Stadium, new or old

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<v Speaker 3>that both teams hit five homers in the same game.

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<v Speaker 3>And three of those came from Alec Burlson of the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 3>Tenth time this year that a player has hit three

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<v Speaker 3>home runs in one game. But I had to tell

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Michael Eaves, my friend. I said, Okay, I wasn't at

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<v Speaker 3>that game, but I was at the game in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty seven when the Blue Jays by themselves hit ten

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<v Speaker 3>homers in one game against the Oreoles. I covered that

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<v Speaker 3>game for the Baltimore Sun. So as much as he said,

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<v Speaker 3>even Tim has never been to this game, I have

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<v Speaker 3>a game that's even more remarkable because in that whatever

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen to three win, the Blue Jays hit ten homers,

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<v Speaker 3>a major league record to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of bombs. Man. I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the crowd for that game. That's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And as I told you, Jeff Hank Peters, the

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.679
<v Speaker 3>general manager of the Orioles was so disgusted after that

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<v Speaker 3>game that he had the video guy q up the

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<v Speaker 3>bats for all ten homers and he calls me into

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<v Speaker 3>his eye. He calls me into his office and says,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to show you something. And he showed me

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<v Speaker 3>the clip. I mean this thing that the guy made

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 3>for him of the ten homers and he said, I

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<v Speaker 3>call it the barrage and it was the entire bats

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<v Speaker 3>for all ten homers. And he said, and we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to show this to our minor leaguers on the proper

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<v Speaker 3>way not.

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<v Speaker 2>To pitch, which I thought was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So ten homers in one game. Now, Jeff, we had

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun with. Well, let's go to Luisa Rise.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about him earlier. So, Jeff, in this era

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<v Speaker 3>of a lot of walks, a lot of strikeouts, and

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of homers, Luise Riise doesn't do any of those.

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 3>But through Tuesday, Nick Kirt, really good player for the A's,

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<v Speaker 3>had fifty one games this year in which he had

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 3>at least least one walk and at least one strikeout.

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<v Speaker 3>So a little bit less than half of the games

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<v Speaker 3>he's played he's got a walk and a strikeout.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that strike you as a lot. Fifty one, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Luisa Rise, who just gets a lot of hits,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't hit a lot of homers rarely, if ever, strikes

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<v Speaker 3>out and doesn't walk very much.

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<v Speaker 2>How many games do you think this.

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<v Speaker 3>Year, Jeff, he's had a walk and a strikeout in

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<v Speaker 3>the same game. Again, Nick Kurtz has fifty one of

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 3>those games. How many games does Luisa Rise have a

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<v Speaker 3>walk and a strikeout?

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be single digits, so I'm gonna say five.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Louisia does not have one game this year in which

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<v Speaker 3>he has walked and struck out in the same game.

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<v Speaker 3>He only has forty six of those in his entire career,

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<v Speaker 3>and zero of them this year. Nick Kurtz, fifty one,

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<v Speaker 3>Luisa Raise zero. Okay, you know you know how much

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<v Speaker 3>I love names, Jeff. We got a bunch of names

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about. Antwine Kelly is a left handed pitcher

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 3>for the Cubs, and Antwine Kelly is a right handed

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 3>pitcher for the Pirates.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what what now?

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Antoine is not the most common name, but they spell

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<v Speaker 3>their their first names differently, A N T O, I

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 3>N E and A n T W O N E.

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<v Speaker 3>But do you find it odd there are two Antoine

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 3>Kelly's in the major leagues. They're both pitchers, and uh

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 3>they spell their first name differently.

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that odd to you or what?

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, we need to do team Kelly instead of team

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Tim because we've got Carson Kelly, We've got Antoine Kelly

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and Antoine Kelly. We got plenty of room here, got

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Ben Kelly, plenty of right. That's my buddy from all right,

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>not a major leaguer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we also had a little fun in the Rangers

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 3>game the other day. Their picture was cole Win w

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I N N and they're catchure was Austin wins w

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 3>Y and n S. So their battery was win and

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 3>wins wins and of course, of course they lost the game,

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 3>of course, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like Michael Scott too. It's like there's

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>different options of negotiations. There's win lose, win win or

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>win win win. I want the win win win situation,

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>full win and Austin wins.

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>That's good, right, all right, all right?

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Last one, Xavian Curry faced Xavier Xavier Edwards the other

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 3>day and in at bat so it was only the

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 3>second time in major league history that a pitcher whose

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 3>first name starts with X faced a hitter whose first

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 3>name starts with X. Xavier Sadanio faced Xander Bogarts in

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 3>five different played appearances. But now we have our second

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 3>X versus X first name at bat in the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty impressive, Jeff, you love.

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<v Speaker 2>That or is it stupid?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? My question is thinking ahead to alpha best. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there X last names?

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>No, So why don't you do X first names just

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>for that? Since there's no strongly, there's no options. So

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not like we're giving up. We're saying there's zero

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>players and pictures that are going to be So I

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>think thinking way ahead because today is TEA a little

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>bit later in the show, you got to do X

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>first names.

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>What do you think, right?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Xander Bogart. I haven't done the research. I

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 3>think Xander Bogarts is going to be the position player

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 3>and I don't think Exavier Sadaniel is going to be

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the picture, but he's going to be in the conversation

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 3>because there aren't too many X pictures out there. There's

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot of EX pictures, just not a lot of

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 3>X pictures. So that's uh, those are the questions my

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 3>favorite things for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Dad, let's go into in this state in

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>baseball history.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 3>What do you have a little shorter than usual, Jeff.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>But in nineteen seventy three, Roberto Clemente and Warren Spawn

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 3>on this date went into the Hall of Fame. And

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 3>you'll never get this, Jeff, But what is what? What

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 3>is similar about those two players and not in the

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 3>way they played or anything else. Well, I'll just give

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>you the clue. They both wore number twenty one. And

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure I've ever been killed harder than when

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 3>I on the I think I switched on the I

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 3>once said the greatest number twenty one of all time

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 3>was Warren Spawn because he had thirteen twenty win seasons,

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 3>won three hundred and sixty three games, was a war

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>hero and did some amazing things.

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:55.959
<v Speaker 2>For a couple of teams.

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 3>And I got killed in Pittsburgh so bad. As if

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who Roberto Clemtti is and don't love

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 3>Robta CLEMTI of course I do. But Warren Spawn was

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty good too. So they went in the same year,

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 3>and they're the two greatest number twenty ones of all time.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Dad. You know it's interesting too. I looked

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>back at that episode when we did From Ozzie to

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Oral last year, the episode following you doing number twenty one,

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>lost like half of our listeners. Nobody wanted to listen anymore.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>We just got killed in the ratings.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>No, you're making that up right, baking that up?

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Don't?

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Look is trauma from picking Warren spot over Roberto Clamtte.

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>God, Yeah, I still have trauma. You're right, okay.

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Nineteen ninety three, on this day, Tony Gwinn got hit

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 3>number two thousand.

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Tony Gwenn is one of the greatest hitters I've ever seen.

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>And you know, we know we talk about Luisa Rise

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>being something similar to Tony Gwinn today, Let's understand Tony

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Gwynn hit with more power, drove in more runs, was

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 3>a great defensive right fielder, and stole fifty six bases

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>in one season. Luise Rise isn't any of these, even

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 3>though I love Luise Rise, but just remember Jeff Tony

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 3>gwyn Junior had. I mean, Tony Gwynn had two hundred

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 3>and ninety seven three hit games and one three strikeout

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 3>game in his career. Two ninety seven to one. That's

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 3>a pretty good ratio.

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, incredible.

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, we teased it earlier, Dad, Let's hear the alpha best.

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 3>All right, I it's the letter T. And there were

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 3>some really good candidates, including Hall of Famer Frank Thomas,

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 3>who's one of the best hitters I've ever seen.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 2>But I'm going with Mike Trout. Mike Trout won.

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Three MVPs, and he finished in the top two of

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 3>the MVP voting in each of his first five full seasons.

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 2>No one else has done that in their first three.

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 3>He did it in his first five again, Rookie of

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 3>the Year, nine times Silver Slugger, twelve time All Stars,

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 3>a War of ninety point nine, which is really high

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 3>given that he's got a lot of career left in him.

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Four under twenty two homers, career ops of nine sixty nine.

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Again, Mike Trout.

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Is the player he used to be, and he got

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 3>hurt a lot, but he's playing now.

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's just not.

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Forget how great those first eight or nine years were,

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 3>because people were saying he's the greatest player we've ever seen.

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>So if anyone ever asked you again, is he a

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Famer? The answer is is this a trick question?

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Of course, he's a Hall of Famer and he's the

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 3>greatest T position player ever. Any any argument with that.

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>You can't make an argument on that. I mean, I

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>feel bad that players or kids, I should say, fans

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>who are growing up right now, young kids who didn't

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>get to see Trout, you know, at the beginning of

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>his career. They obviously know the stories. But he was

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>just so dazzling and so incredible. And he's he's playing

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>great again, but he struggled to stay healthy for quite

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a few years there. And I think your T pick

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>is an absolute perfect one. Future Hall of Famer Mike

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Trout agreed, and.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Here's how good he was in his prime and spring

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 3>training one year Raoul Labanya, is his teammate with the Angels,

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 3>told me that that Trout, who loves to compete at

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 3>any game there is, and it doesn't matter what his

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 3>little games on at the ballpark everything else. And he

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 3>looks at Raoul Labanya's during batting practice in Tempe and says,

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to hit a home run into that trash

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 3>can beyond the left center field fence. And Jeff, it

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a dumpster, Okay, It was one of those big

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 3>green trash cans, round trash cans that you would see

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 3>at any Major league park, and it was beyond the

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 3>left center field fence, and like ten pitches later, Mike

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 3>Trout hit a home run into that trash can. And

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 3>then he did it again that spring when he said

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 3>that he would insane Mike Trout in his prime, the

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>things he could do were unbelievable, all right, Jeff, the pitcher,

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 3>it was a lot harder because I was surprised to

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 3>see unless I miss somebody that and I don't think

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I did that. There's no pitcher in the Hall of

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Fame whose last name starts with T. So I went

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 3>through a bunch of options and I came up with

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 3>Louis Tian, who I think has Hall of Fame credentials.

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Two hundred and twenty nine wins, three point three zero ERA,

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 3>two time ERA title in nineteen sixty eight, Jeff, again,

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 3>it was the year of the pitcher, but Louis Tian

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 3>had a one point six to oh er, but he

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 3>was dwarfed that year by Danny mc clain, who won

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.399
<v Speaker 3>thirty one games and Bob Gibson, who had a one

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>point one to two eer.

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 2>But that year Louis Tian threw.

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Two hundred and fifty eight and two thirds innings Jeff,

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 3>and gave up one hundred and fifty two hits. I mean,

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 3>that's like a historically low hits for nine innings rate

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 3>from him. And he pitched in a lot of big games.

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Let's never forget how dazzling he was, especially for the

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:03.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy five Red Sox in the in the World Series.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 3>And he would turn his back on the hitter, the

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 3>gyrations on the mound, the way he could hide the ball,

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 3>the deception.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I've I'm not sure I've ever watched.

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 3>A pitcher who was more entertaining to watch than him,

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 3>because every delivery was a little bit different. He would

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 3>he would quicken it, he would slow it down, he

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 3>would turn his back on the hitter. It's too bad, Jeff,

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.280
<v Speaker 3>that you never saw Louis tion pitching his prime, because

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 3>it was really breathtaking to watch.

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, incredible and great picks, Dad, great picks for

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Alphabet team, and I feel like the Alphabet is going

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to lead us right into Team Tim.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes, you are right, Jeff, because I don't think

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 3>we've ever done this, but given that Mike Trout is

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 3>our greatest team, we came up with the All Fish Team.

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 3>So we'll start in the outfield. Since we're starting with

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Mike Trout. Mike Trout, Tim Salmon, also a star with

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 3>the Angels in Prime, and Kevin Bast are our outfielders.

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 3>We have Mike Karp at first base, Marlon Anderson at

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.720
<v Speaker 3>second base, Angel Aragon he played the early nineteen hundreds.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 3>I'd never heard of him. Sorry, he's our third baseman.

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 3>There is such a thing called an angelfish, and Bobby

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Sturgeon is our shortstop. Oscar Hernandez is our catcher. Art

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Herring is one of our pitchers, and our star pitcher

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 3>is Catfish Hunter. So that is the All Fish Team.

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Inspired by Mike Trout. Thoughts on that, Jeff, all.

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I can do is give it up, Dad. I can

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 1>give it up to you because you always find a

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>way to bring a team tim to the table, and

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm always impressed with it. I have to say you

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>do a fine job, and I'm I'm just proud to

0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>be your son. That you spent all this time working

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>on these it means a lot to Jeff.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>You can make a good case.

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 3>The two of the five greatest Angels, maybe the two

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 3>four greatest Angels are Mike Trout and Tim Salmon, and

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 3>both have the names of a fish.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Look, it's too perfect, Dad, it's absolutely perfect. Okay, so

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we did team Tim, all right, But now I'm a

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>little bit worried because usually we communicate do you have

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 1>three cards with you?

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 3>I do not. I'm on the road, Jeff, and I

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 3>did not lift three cards out of the bathroom, nor

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 3>did I meet three Atlanta Brave Stars in the bathroom

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 3>this week. I did last week in Cooper's Down. So

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to count on you.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>How about we do this. We'll go to a quick

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>commercial break, and then after we'll do three cards in

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Jeff's closet. I'll surprise Dad with three cards whatever we

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 1>can get out, and then he gets to riff on

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>each one. Okay, that's coming up next on it's just

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a great game or what?

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Dad? I grabbed three cards from my closet. Are you

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>ready for three cards? Here we go. First, one out

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.439
<v Speaker 1>wearing an Orioles jersey. It's Albert Bell.

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy.

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Albert Bell is one of the most fearsome sluggers I've

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 3>ever seen the numbers he has. Some of them at

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 3>least are Hall of Fame worthy, but he's never come close.

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Of course, he had a fifty homer fifty double season

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 3>and wow, I gotta be careful with this. But I

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 3>went to do a story for Sports Illustrated on young

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 3>sluggers in the Major League. This was in the mid

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 3>nineties and Albert Bell was the first guy on the

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 3>list because he was young and he was a devastating slugger.

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 3>So I called PR because Albert was a difficult guy

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 3>to deal with, and I said, I'm coming in to

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 3>talk to Albert Bell. Can you check to see if

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm not wasting my time coming there? And they talked

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 3>to Albert and he said, yeah, I'll talk to him.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 3>So I got there and I said, Hi, you know,

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 3>i'm Tim Kirkchen with the ESPN.

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, hi, I'm Tim.

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Kirkchin with Sports Illustrated, and I'm here to talk to

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 3>you about the story. And he just looks at me

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 3>and goes, well, I'm not talking to you. And I

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 3>said why. I said, you said you would through the

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 3>PR department. He goes, well, I don't care what I

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 3>said to them, I'm not talking to you because you know,

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 3>there is an SI Jinx and anybody who ever appears

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 3>in sports.

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what he said.

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 3>So I kind of chuckled it off and said, Albert,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think there really is an SI Jinks and

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.439
<v Speaker 3>he goes, well, I'm not taking any chances and I'm

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 3>not talking to you.

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 2>So that was it.

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 3>And when Albert played for the Orioles, and again he

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 3>was not the same slugger with them, but he was

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 3>a dangerous hitter back then too. I'll never forget after games,

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, everyone would have a pre postgame meal. Albert

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 3>would sit at his locker like by himself and had

0:40:55.960 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>three like yogurts lined up, like three great yogurts. I'm

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 3>not sure what the flavor was, but he would eat

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.720
<v Speaker 3>those three yogurts. And he also loved to play chess,

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 3>which really didn't fit the rest of his personality, but

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 3>apparently he was a really good chess player as well

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 3>as a great power hitter in the major leagues.

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Even though he didn't want to talk to me, he.

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Didn't want to talk to Tim Kirkshon of Sports Illustrated.

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>He will talk to Tim Kirkshen of ESPN or I

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a great game or what.

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 2>But no, I don't think so.

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>All right, Next card Troy Gloss.

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Troy Gloss was a really good player for the Angels,

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 3>a third baseman. But he's another one of those guys

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 3>who played shortstop growing up because cal Ripken broke the

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 3>mold and showed a lot of big guys, and Troy

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Gloss was a big man that you could play shortstop.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Now he got so big, but he was really They

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 3>moved into third base and he was a really good

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 3>defensive third baseman. Also had a great sense of humor

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 3>and was the third baseman on the world champion Angels

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and two. But towards the end of

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>his career, he was playing with the Braves. It might

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 3>have been his last year and I got to talk then.

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 3>This is years ago, Jeff, but this is when velocity

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:18.760
<v Speaker 3>really started to tick upwards, and he told me, he said,

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I have to cheat on every fastball in every game

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 3>now because the velocity we're seeing is so enormous that

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I have to. When I say cheat, Jeff, he's got

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>to get out there early to try to catch up

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 3>to you know, mid nineties, low nineties, well, mid nineties fastballs,

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 3>and now everyone throws in.

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 2>The mid nineties.

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Just another reminder how much harder everybody throws today and

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 3>how much better the stuff is that we've ever seen that.

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 3>Not everyone knows what to do with that stuff. But

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Troy Gloss at least ten years ago, what was his

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 3>last year, Jeff, look it up.

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, all I have here is this is his two

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.439
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one card, so I have that he led

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the majors tied for forty seven homers in two thousand.

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't have his baseball reference up, and I can

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 1>pull it together.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 2>What do you need from never mind?

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 3>I was just trying to recall the conversation I had

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 3>with him about how hard everyone throws today and the

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 3>adjustments that he had to make just to catch up

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>with the best fastballs in the big leagues, because he said,

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 3>we see him like every night now.

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.879
<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable, right, he.

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Dad, I want to read what was on the back

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of the card I pulled, Okay, Yeah, he said Troy

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Gloss could do without the adelation, preferring to let his

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>explosive bat make the statements.

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Quote.

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.919
<v Speaker 1>That's the way my mother raised me. He says, it's

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>rude to just talk about what you're doing.

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 2>End quote.

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>How great is that his mom makes an appearance on

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the back of his card. That's cool.

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 3>And let's see how great your memory is, Jeff. What

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 3>when Steve Rushall was on three years in a row?

0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 3>We made him tell the story. What was on the

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 3>back of lou Brock's baseball.

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 1>He was serving ice cream? Right, he was at the

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:05.240
<v Speaker 1>ice parlor.

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 2>No, no, he was delivering flowers. That's right, that's right.

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 3>And then and then there's a picture on the back

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 3>of the baseball card of lou Brock in his cardinal

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 3>uniform on your doorstep holding flowers, and young Steve Russia thought,

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 3>this is the greatest thing ever. The star left fielder

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 3>for the Cardinals will, in full uniform come over your

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 3>house and deliver flowers.

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 2>How great?

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, incredible, all right, dad, last card, I picked

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a manager card Jack McKeon.

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh love Jack mckinn.

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 3>So in two thousand and three, the Marlins were struggling badly,

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 3>so they made a managerial change and moved Jack mckinn

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 3>into the manager's roll. And they got red hot and

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 3>ended up beating the Yankees in the World Series in

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three. And Jack mckein was an older

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:04.439
<v Speaker 3>man at the time, and he once told me, as

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 3>an older manager, that he wanted to wear a coat

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 3>and tie a full suit to the mound because that's

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 3>what the manager who managed more games than anyone in history,

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Connie Mack, used to do.

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Connie Mack used.

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 3>To go to the mound because he wasn't wearing a uniform,

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>he was wearing a suit. And Jack McKeon thought it

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 3>would be a great publicity stunt, for lack of a

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.320
<v Speaker 3>better term, for him to go out to the mound

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 3>wearing a suit as opposed to a baseball uniform. Would

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 3>you have enjoyed that?

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I love that so much. Classic. I mean, that's some

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Jackie Robinson era stuff there. I love it. And on

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the back of his card Dad it said he was

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>commonly given the nickname Trader Jack because of his willingness

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to make multiplayer deals.

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I love Jack, Trader Jack.

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I should have known Trader Joe's is a great grocery store.

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Trader Jack.

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 3>And yes, when he was a Padres general manager, you

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 3>went to the winter meetings, you better watch out trader.

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Jack is going to do something crazy, and he often

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 3>did because he loved the excitement of that.

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 2>So that's Jack mckeonn. He was one of our favorites.

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>That's so so great. Well, Dad, I know this has

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 1>been a nuts week for you with the trade deadline

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and everything going on, and you're bouncing around. But we're

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:28.240
<v Speaker 1>excited because this weekend you will be at my house

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>for my daughter's third birthday. It's also my birthday, but

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 1>we don't really worry about that. My daughter is starting three.

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 1>We have a birthday party. You're gonna be here. We're

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna record the podcast in the basement. It's gonna be great.

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 3>So McKinley Hope will turn three on Monday, but we'll

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 3>celebrate it on Saturday. Jeffrey will turn thirty three on

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Sunday and we'll celebrate it on Sunday and tell everyone,

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 3>jeff what your one wish is on your birthday one?

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not your wish, one of the wishes that you

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 3>asked for on your birthday.

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I said that I wanted to watch the Phillies game

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 1>at one o'clock on my birthday, relatively uninterrupted. My children

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>are more than welcome to be in the house on

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the couch in front of me, But I don't want

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to get pulled in nine different directions to get bottles

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and change diapers. I want to just sit and enjoy

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>a baseball game, and if the weather permits out on

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>my deck, I would enjoy that, but it looking like

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>there could be rained this weekend. Nonetheless, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>watch baseball live, uninterrupted, possibly with a drink in my hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, all right, I'll get me a white claw now

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<v Speaker 3>that I know what a white claw is. And Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>this warms my heart that my son, who liked baseball

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<v Speaker 3>a lot growing up, likes it even more now. Would

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<v Speaker 3>that's his wish on his birthday is to watch the

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies for all nine innings while drinking a beer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be upstairs watching guys and dolls while you're downstairs

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<v Speaker 3>watching baseball. But nicely, nicely, Johnson, I'll sit down. You're

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<v Speaker 3>rocking the boat. You did such a great job on that, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>and I never ever got nervous when your sister would

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<v Speaker 3>play soccer or basketball. I always got nervous, especially basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>but I always knew you were going to kill it

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<v Speaker 3>and you killed it in nicely, nicely Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys and Dolls, What was the first song in that

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<v Speaker 2>show that TJ Quinn knew the name of?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fugue for tin Horns. I believe Rightow,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I remembered that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't believe TJ. Quinn remember that. Well, he's

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<v Speaker 3>an investigative reporter. I guess he should have known that.

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<v Speaker 3>But he knew all the songs from Guys and Dolls

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<v Speaker 3>and I only knew one, and that was sit Down,

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<v Speaker 3>You're rocking the Boat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the opening song is about three degenerate

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<v Speaker 1>horse gamblers for high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, Jeff, I can't wait for your thirty third birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for Kinley's third birthday. And just sign

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<v Speaker 3>us off, and because I got a lot of Sports

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<v Speaker 3>Center in baseball, tonight's.

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<v Speaker 2>To do tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening, Thanks for watching it as always, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for being a part of our family.