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Speaker 1: they're winning some games. They're competing with the Seahawks. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about him. Gab Gabbert's pretty They're not that, they're

427
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Speaker 1: a little better. If they can get in like a

428
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: bootleg offense in there, he'd be perfect for that. And

429
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: Shane Drone was not terrible last week. He helped on

430
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Speaker 1: the grounds, he caught passes. I just think there's not

431
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: a lot of talent in Cisco, but one more guy,

432
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Speaker 1: their first round pick, Eric Instead is playing really well

433
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: the last couple of Sean Jones was the first running

434
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: back in the entire league this year to play every

435
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: snap of a game last week and he's looked like

436
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: a competent and nothing great and not by Cleveland. Nice job.

437
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: And the other thing about Jim tom Sewell is, you know,

438
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: I thought he was putting an almost impossible situation this season.

439
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: He almost you know, as long as this team is

440
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 1: playing hard and their competitive, he deserves another year to

441
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: really start to build something there. It wouldn't be fair

442
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: if they dumped him after giving him such a tough task.

443
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. We all think the Bears are

444
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: gonna win this game. But we'll see about tough. It's

445
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: a tough matchup for for Gabber fans. They didn't win

446
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: win in Green Bay because of their offense. They scored

447
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: seventeen points and didn't score the entire fourth quarter. The Packers,

448
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: I think, at five possessions in the fourth quarter and

449
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: they couldn't get one single touchdown. The coach that turns

450
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Tracy Porter back into a quality starting cornerback is a

451
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: coach that's a It's pretty damn good. Moving on, Uh,

452
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals got back in the win column and

453
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Speaker 1: moved to nine and two with an easy win over

454
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Speaker 1: the Rams. They now head to Cleveland to face a

455
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: Browns team that has to be just gout it after

456
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: what happened on Monday night. Of course, of course it

457
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: was the now infamous in Cleveland Lore. Uh. What what

458
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: was it called? It was a six? It was like

459
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: a kick off. There's so many to Brown's losses that

460
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: this was a blocks field goal, run back for a

461
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: touchdown as as time expired. What was it off? That

462
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: was the same thing as the Alabama play a couple

463
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: of years people just copied it. Um so yes, a

464
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: crushing defeat. But again, you know what, the Browns are

465
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: playing hard for Mike Petnon. They're not getting a results

466
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: now two and fourteen in their last sixteen games dating

467
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Speaker 1: back to last season, and now they get the Bengals.

468
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: We keep saying that, but isn't it two and fifteen.

469
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: I guess there's no point in the point. I guess

470
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: that people just like banging the number sixteen there. Chris Westling,

471
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna see Tyler Eifford in

472
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Speaker 1: this game for the Bengals. Will it matter? No, No,

473
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Speaker 1: the Bengals, I mean we they lost to the Texans

474
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: when nobody thought the Texans were good. Now that we

475
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: know they're good. So there are two losses are against

476
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Speaker 1: the really good Houston team and on the road against Arizona,

477
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: which is one of the best teams in the NFL.

478
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: The Bengals are phenomenal and Jeremy Hill is coming off

479
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: his best game of the season. They're getting stronger. Yeah,

480
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: you don't need effort, And you know, anyone that's suffered

481
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Speaker 1: through watching Browns games this year, you can run the

482
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: ball all day long. On this team. They're out of

483
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: position on too many plays every single game. There's wide

484
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: open holes and you've got way more weapons than Cleveland

485
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: does functional players in the secondary. I don't see this

486
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Speaker 1: as even being a close game. Now, if you could

487
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Speaker 1: put money or ever predict that a Gholston was on

488
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: the way. And for new fans of the show, a

489
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: gholston is our statistical term for when a team does

490
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Speaker 1: not have a QB hit or a sack. Some people

491
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: call it a dirty Peter, but that's true. That was

492
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Speaker 1: the other name that was I think some got some votes. Uh,

493
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Speaker 1: if there ever there was a game, they're going to

494
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Speaker 1: be a ghostan. It's Brown's trying to go up against

495
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: this Bengals offensive line, which is really playing well and

496
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: is the key, I think to everything they do in

497
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland's their own worst enemy. If you they have only

498
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: you have to go back to two thousand twelve when

499
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: they played the same quarterback in both games against Cincinnati.

500
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis has faced I think it's fifteen different Browns

501
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks during his tenure the team, which speaks to absolute dysfunction.

502
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: And now you're ruling Austin Davis out. And I think

503
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Speaker 1: Austin Davis did an adequate job on Monday Night, But again,

504
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: it's someone that's has no chemistry and very few snaps

505
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Speaker 1: with the players around him, and you're in December. Terrible

506
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Speaker 1: job by the Brown as usual. Well, they're sticking to

507
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: their guns. Whether the guns, it's absolutely ridiculous. We said it.

508
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: We were in the huddle they work commissary here two

509
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Speaker 1: days ago and we were all in agreement that what

510
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: Manzel did, whether it was lying to the team or

511
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, clubbing on on the bye week, you know, okay,

512
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: we understood that he got disciplined for it. And but

513
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: what happened on Monday night having to be bent for

514
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Speaker 1: that game, which was, you know, such a great game

515
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: to want to be a part of, and even McCown

516
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: gets hurt and he had a chance to go in

517
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: there and be the hero. Instead you just had a

518
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: hundred sideline shots of him looking like a stiff. That

519
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: was enough punishment. But instead, whatever is going on in

520
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: that building, whether it's the front office or the coach, uh,

521
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, getting a little too tough, they have they

522
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: have blown this as much as you can and they're

523
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: just gonna send men's all out of town apparently now

524
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: and not know whether le ever get back on his

525
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: feet or whether he's any good and they're just gonna

526
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Speaker 1: roll the dice. I hate this move. I think I

527
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: think he'll start again, and I hope I'm wrong because

528
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: my sandwich proposition that said Austin Davis is gonna start

529
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: more games than Johnny Manzel is like the Rudy of

530
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: Sandwich proposition. People said it couldn't be done. It looked

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00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: all the way but dead, and then incomes Austin Davis

532
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: that big touchdown. Unfortunately, Manzel already started three games, so

533
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: there's five games left of the season. I really need

534
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Austin Davis to run the table here to take possible,

535
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Speaker 1: which I feel like is. I feel like it's unlikely.

536
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: I feel like more it's more likely that Johnny Manzel

537
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Speaker 1: does get back in there. But it wouldn't it be great.

538
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: This is something America can really rally behind. America. Me

539
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: and Austin Davis, two little guys that's an underdog. It

540
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: sounds like it's about you do we haven't. It's about me,

541
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: Greg rosal drop. Austin Davis is like, by the way,

542
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: the the rudy one. We'll be able to tell the difference.

543
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Man off the light on that I can do it

544
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: for you. Greg's cell phone currently he has the flashlight

545
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: device open and it's been on for him. By the way,

546
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: the ultimate Rudy go get your lunch was last year

547
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: when I said case keenan would start more games than

548
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett. Case keen was out of the league for

549
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: like fifteen games, and then he got signed randomly to Houston,

550
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: started a game he didn't. Yeah, but that was Rudy

551
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: really didn't win either. Rudy was just a scrub. Great analogy.

552
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Then alright, moving on, we all what would you guys

553
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: surprised if I told you that Connor to the Browns. Well,

554
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: he didn't do it. We all took the Bengals. Moving on, Uh,

555
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Yes, they were the team that was

556
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: on the winning side. Of course of the kick six,

557
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: as it is now known in NFL lore. I guess

558
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: that the blocked kick six that does that does not

559
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: exactly roll off the tongue. They head to Miami now

560
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: to face a corpse staffing team that fouled that fired

561
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: Bill Laser replaced them with one of Tannehill's cronies from

562
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: his Texas A and m days, Zach Taylor, is that

563
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: the enhancer, right, okay, and uh now they are gonna

564
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: attempt to allow Ryan Tannehill. And I thought it was

565
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: very telling in the news, um uh Yesterday's uh Miami Herald.

566
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: I think I start in a couple other places, Tannehill

567
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: openly speaking about how he's really looking forward to the

568
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: bright horizon in Miami now that he'll have some input

569
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Speaker 1: on the offense and the ability to audible out of plays.

570
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of remarkable to me that in two thousand,

571
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: fifteen and ninety six million dollar quarterback was that handcuffed

572
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: in an office, but that west is what was happening,

573
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: uh in Miami. Now they get Baltimore at home. What

574
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: a thankless individual, Ryan Tannehill is. Bill Laser gets him

575
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: a ninety six million dollar contracted The best three months

576
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: of Tannehill's career happened under Lasers, watching a gimmick offense,

577
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Speaker 1: and he basically kicks him at the door and dances

578
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Speaker 1: on his grade. He certainly did. I mean, you could

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Speaker 1: have uh done a little jock speak and and danced

580
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: around it a little bit. But Tannehill basically just outright

581
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Speaker 1: said it that he feels like he's in a much

582
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: better place now with laser fired, well, great, enjoy your

583
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: five games, was Zach Taylor because they're gonna have a

584
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Speaker 1: new I mean seriously, they're gonna have a new coach

585
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Speaker 1: next year. So that's why this whole move on some

586
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: level didn't make any sense. But I guess the only

587
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: way it makes sense is if you're twisted enough and

588
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: they are to believe, hey, we're not out of it yet,

589
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: We're two games out of the playoffs. This is our

590
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: only chance for you know, thirty different guys who are

591
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: on the staff to keep their jobs next year's win

592
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: five straight and make the playffs. They still think they

593
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: have a chance to do that. That's the only reason

594
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: why you make that move. They're playing the right opponent

595
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: because their coach convinced the Ravens two weeks ago that

596
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: they're in the playoff teams. I disagree by the way.

597
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: I know it's tricky, you know, an offensive coordinator um

598
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: sticking around, but they have so much invested in Tannehill

599
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: and jobs are on the line. I think even if

600
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: you're you're not keeping Dan Campbell, which imagine they're not.

601
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: If Tannehill plays really well with Taylor leading the way

602
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: and he speaking, and he talks up Taylor, which wouldn't

603
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: surprise me because their history together. I wouldn't be shocked

604
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: if if he was on the staff of whoever was

605
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: the coach next year. I think these games means something

606
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: beyond just making a playoff. Then you're limiting who you're hiring.

607
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: I get that Taylor, but I I can also see

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Speaker 1: with a Mike tnabomb team that that being part of

609
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: the conversation. Well, I don't like that dynamic at all,

610
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: because if you're Miami, the only reason that you made

611
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: all these moves was in theory because you're a nice,

612
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: warm weather city that attracts big names to go out

613
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Speaker 1: and get that big name coach and you can't tell him. Oh,

614
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: by the way, you have to keep a or B

615
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: as your coordinator. Fergie is a big Zac Taylor fan.

616
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: They never get their man anyway. Yeah, there's nothing more

617
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: overrated than the like, Miami is gonna get us great,

618
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: especially coach. Well, I got him Jimmy Johnson, But that's

619
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: decades ago. Right now, it's now it's been Joe Philbin

620
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: and uh Cam Cameron. Well, that'd be it'd be the

621
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Speaker 1: owner will fly as helicopter around the country, just doesn't

622
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Speaker 1: come back with anyone. I like the idea of the

623
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Speaker 1: owner of flying like a rinky dink helicopter like across

624
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: America in search of the next time. He's not he

625
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to fly. And who was the guy

626
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: in duck tails? Who was the helicopter pilot? Wow, that's

627
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: a deep dive Scrooge mcducker. It was like he had

628
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: a really weird name and he would always crash the hill.

629
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Speaker 1: Probably ended in duck copter, m helicopter something like that.

630
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Speaker 1: It had a mick in And I think, what was

631
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Speaker 1: Why did your thought? Did the doesn't Like show get

632
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: canceled last week? What happened? I can't. I can't speak

633
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: about it. I've been told can you speak around? Did

634
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: be told by NFL media if we want to continue

635
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: to just shut up about it? Did they come from

636
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Speaker 1: the top or did it come from the middle middle top?

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Speaker 1: I mean we were told in a high level meeting

638
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Speaker 1: just don't get on anyone's radar as a podcast. So

639
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: you guys have violated the number one rule of staying

640
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: on the air. You're just on everyone's radar. Now it's

641
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: a catch twenty two. You have to stay so small.

642
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: You can't stay on anyone's rad get on anyone's radar.

643
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't ever get you know, further ahead

644
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: in the company. If you're not on anyone's radar. Launch

645
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: Pad mcquack and able Flyer launch Pad can scarcely set

646
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: a playing down without a massive crash. I like that.

647
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: You're forty two and that show came out in the

648
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: nineties and your real plug. Don't age me. I'm only

649
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: one where little brothers watched it relentlessly. Okay, alright, yeah,

650
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: because you're the second oldest, right, yes, all right, let's

651
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: move on. The Seattle Seahawks, big win over the Steelers

652
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: in they're building, uh this past Sunday and now they

653
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: traveled in Minnesota. This um is dare I say the

654
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: game of the week? Well they never turned out to

655
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: be but before well, right, am I wrong? It's like

656
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: this is how about the how about Cardinals Bengal? How

657
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: about how about Cardinals Seahawks? How about Patriots Broncos. We've

658
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: had some good games of the week. Mark, Your cynicism

659
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: isn't welcome here. Okay, it's Broncos just last week, babe.

660
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: It's not West but it's me they will sit the

661
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: second half of the show. I've heard enough, all right.

662
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: So the Vikings, Yes, they are all alone again atop

663
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: the NFC North at eight and three and here, but

664
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: here is another big test with his team and uh,

665
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure that the subreddit is they've turned

666
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: up the volumes on their transistor radios. What is going

667
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: to come out of the mouths of the around the

668
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: NFL team and specifically Chris Wesley, the number one enemy,

669
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: the joker to their batman. Uh, this is a team

670
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: that had a chance to really take control of the division.

671
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Uh two weeks ago against the Packers at home, couldn't

672
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: get the job done. Now here's another test at home

673
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: against the back to back defending conference champions Chris Westling.

674
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Are the Vikings gonna take care of business and hold

675
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: on to first place and send a message to everyone?

676
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: Right from subreddit? You get Subreddit way too much credit

677
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: calling them batman. They're more like a hobbit. Well. I

678
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: hope the Vikings win a game this year this week

679
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: because it would be the first time they beat a

680
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: good team all year. So this will be a test

681
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: for them. They are a good team. They've held nine

682
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: of eleven opponents under twenty points. That is great defense.

683
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: I want to see it. I think the Vikings are

684
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: a good team. I want to see if they're a

685
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: NFC North champion kind of team, because they will finally

686
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: beat a good team this week. I think they're gonna win,

687
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: and I really do. I think this will be the

688
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: time has been intimidated by the subreddit. That's my theory.

689
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: Back to back picks with him, though, Well, but I've

690
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: been correct, Well, I mean weren't. Well, you're right this time.

691
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to be right. Dan's theory is completely wrong.

692
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't care at all about subreddit

693
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: or whatever it is their message board. I mean, I

694
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: think what they're all, well, what Vikings. I have a

695
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: very good friend who's the Vikings fan, and basically I

696
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: think they feel overlooked at this point in the season.

697
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: And if you're a Vikings fan, it's fine to feel

698
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: that way. I don't know. I have a friend that

699
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: is also a Vikings fan who sends me nasty texts. Uh.

700
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a fan base thing, not just the subreddit,

701
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: but feels the same way that the media should be seeing.

702
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson's an evyb candidate that they should be seen

703
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: as a superpower in the NFC. I just need to

704
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: see more. People need to get over the media doesn't

705
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: pay enough attention to us bit. And I used to

706
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: be like this too. I'm not it's a natural thing,

707
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: but it's the dumbest thing in fandom that there is.

708
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: How come the media doesn't give us more credit? Like

709
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: why aren't they talk? Like what does that matter to you?

710
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: But it does matter. It doesn't matter to you, but

711
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: I think it matters. You're on the media side of

712
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: it at this point. Fans probably in the seas in

713
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: like this. They aren't thinking from that angle. They just

714
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: feel disrespected and they're probably hearing the players saying we're disrespected,

715
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: and so you want to change and enjoy your team

716
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: focused on the positive, but you know there you want

717
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: to do it, then go out and stamp the Seahawks

718
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: at home. You want to be they have to do.

719
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: You have to do this because otherwise you've lost to

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00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay in Seattle in less than a month and

721
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: it is hard to take that team seriously if you

722
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: can't take care of business, especially at home. And I

723
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to and it wouldn't surprise me

724
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: if Seattle won this game convincingly, because I think Seattle

725
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: is turning the corner and we're still talking about them

726
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: as a team that's struggling. They won four out of

727
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: five games. They won a game where Russell Wilson didn't

728
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: get outside the pocket at all. They scored thirty nine

729
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: points on the Steelers. I think it's a very I

730
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: just think it's a very good sign that they can

731
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: win a game where their defense has a poor performance

732
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: at home. It reminds me a little bit of how

733
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: they were playing at the end of the two thousand

734
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: twelve season, when you didn't know when the Seattle offense

735
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: was gonna drop thirty five on you. Take a look

736
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: at Seattle's uh schedule. By the way, after this game,

737
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: I did the uh NFC playoff picture look back earlier

738
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: this week, and if they can get by UM Minnesota

739
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: this week, let me just take a look at this again.

740
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: Uh The next three weeks they feature they have matchups

741
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: against the Ravens, Browns, and Rams. That's a combined ten

742
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: and twenty three those three teams, and then a week

743
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: seven team match up against the Cardinals, but a Cardinals

744
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: team that conceive it will be can be resting starters.

745
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Do not be surprised if a month from now, the

746
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Seahawks or ten and six or eleven and five, I

747
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: will not be surprised. I'd be surprised if they lose less,

748
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: if they don't win ten games too well, but you

749
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: just picked them to lose the last possible game that

750
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: they can. That means that gets them to six processes

751
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: and then they win the next That's fine. I think

752
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: they can do that if to win in Arizona, though,

753
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: if they can't win in Minnesota, they're gonna have trouble

754
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: winning Arizona. Yet, it's possible they could be resting. It

755
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: seems unlikely just because seedings and that the way. Well,

756
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: if they're if they're thirteen and three and the Cardinal

757
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: and the Panthers are, you know, fifteen and one or something,

758
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's yeah, if they have the two seed,

759
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: they have to definitely have the two seed, not the

760
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: three seed, not the one seed. They have to be

761
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: locked right. Certainly, it's certainly possible. It has to be

762
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson's game though, because that's your offense and you're

763
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: playing a team that hasn't allowed a hundred yard rushier

764
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: all season, and the Vikings are this have the second

765
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: fewest big plays through the air of any team in

766
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: the league. So you're a run based team and you

767
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: gotta win it that way, and I think they can

768
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: do it. I'm glad you brought that up, and I

769
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: know we should move on. But Adrian Peterson, right now,

770
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about it that much, is playing unbelievable.

771
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: His performance last Weekends and Falcons was as good a

772
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: game as I've seen out of Adrian Peterson. I would

773
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: say the same thing about I think it was the

774
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: Raiders game two or three weeks and he is he

775
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: is fun to watch. I don't know. I just didn't

776
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: watch it till the middle of the week, and it

777
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: was he was just so impressive. I just it's like

778
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: it's two thousand and seven. It's Adrian Peterson and Tom

779
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Brady are the two best players in the leagu He

780
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: might be the goat. If I had to go back

781
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: and do my m v P list over again, I'd

782
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: have him higher. Yeah. Uh in terms of that game,

783
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: we have Uh. Yes, Jess Mark with the hero pick

784
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: on the Vikings. Moving on, Gotham. I'm gonna call this

785
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: is a loser goes home match between the New York

786
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: Giants and the New York Jets. Uh. The Jets are

787
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: six and five, the Giants five and six. We are

788
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: not going to have the Darrell Revus Odell Beckham matchup,

789
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: which is a bummer. Revis This is obviously a pretty

790
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: serious head injuries dealing with UH. He did not practice

791
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: again on Thursday. Todd Bowls all but ruled him out

792
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: UM today Thursday, So do not expect to see Revus

793
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: on the field, which puts the Jets in a very

794
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: tough spot against the most explosive wide receiver in football

795
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: UM and Antonio Cranmarti skill set does not match up

796
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: well with Odell Beckham UH buster screen. That would be

797
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: a bad situation. They're gonna have to do a lot

798
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: of double teaming and that could leave issues for for

799
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the defense. So no Revus makes me

800
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: very very nervous about this game. As an acknowledged Gang

801
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: Green fan, Greg, your thoughts, well, we predict headlines from

802
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: the future every Friday on NFL. Now do you ever

803
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: want to check that out? And I already told you

804
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: that the Jets are gonna win this game. Well that's right, yes,

805
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: And not only that, something something strange is gonna happen.

806
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: You know, I think this is an emotional game here

807
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: for the Giants. You don't want to lose to your

808
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: tenants at met like, well slow down that no, no, no,

809
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: this arrangement we're very sensitive about that. We were the

810
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: tenants of Giants. But that's all bolt and it's over

811
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: all right, man. I just I think it would be

812
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: a tough loss for Tom Coughlin in that organization which

813
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: is on thin ice right now, you know, top to

814
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: bottom to take. I think the Jets are a better team.

815
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about this rivalry, which Todd Bowls called

816
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: not arrivalry this week, is that it no longer involves

817
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. He circled it back to X. I like,

818
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: well no, because no one could make a bigger deal

819
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: about this thing before happened then Rex Ryan and bottom line,

820
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: you're decessarily bad. Why is that so bad that he

821
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: he injected a little bit of juice into it because

822
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't follow through, well sometimes he does. This is

823
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: a better team under Todd Bowls and this is not

824
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: a great Giants team, but they do have Odell Beckham,

825
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: and I think that he alone could win this game.

826
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: For him, this game is missing juice. And I'm I'm

827
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: okay with Rex being out of a picture for the

828
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: Jets now, but clearly his absence has felt this week.

829
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: All it's been is just about four thousand puff pieces

830
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: about Odell Beckham. What else is new? And uh, you

831
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: know seventy four Reeva's concussion stories. That's been the gist

832
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: of it. But this is such an important team for bolting.

833
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: Neither team is a super Bowl team, let's face it.

834
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: Although we've said that about the Giants before and then

835
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: things have happened, But there's a lot on the line

836
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: of this game. How can anybody pick a winner in

837
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: this game without a coin? Yeah, I totally agree with you.

838
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: They're both like pretty. They they both defined mediocrity and

839
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: they changed from week to week on whether they're good

840
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: or bab Here's here's why the Jets at their best,

841
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: They're Jets best is better than the Giants best. Yeah,

842
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: but the Jets aren't gonna be at their best without

843
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Derail Revers. But they played well without I think so.

844
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: I think the Jets have had three games at least

845
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: this year. That's better than any game the Giants. The

846
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 1: Giants Patriots game and the way they went after that,

847
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: that was impressive. That's that's again why this is a

848
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: coin flip game, because the two teams before Sunday Night,

849
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: of course that played the Patriots better than anyone where

850
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Giants, and they are teams that

851
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: are capable of doing good things. But they're also, like

852
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: west said, they they're right in the middle of the

853
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: pack total coin flip game. But I do like what

854
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: I saw. The Jets had a little more swagger this

855
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: past week. They kind of looked like the team they

856
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: were in early October. So I'm gonna go with the Jets,

857
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: as did Connor Or and Chris Westling probably change okay,

858
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: and patra and Cessler took the Giants. Tough spot for

859
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: connor Or, by the way, who was famously picked against

860
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: both New York teams, teams that I used to cover

861
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: on on a beat for The Star Ledger. He's picked

862
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: against them almost every week, and he had to pick

863
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: one this time, the Jet. I want to add some juice,

864
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: asked him about that. What real tough spot he keeps?

865
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 1: He also was picked against the Panthers seven straight weeks.

866
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: That's not working out for him too well. But you

867
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: wanted to add some juice, and so we're sending Connor

868
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: or a couple of miles to this game. That all

869
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: that's good. He'll do a good job. I just thought

870
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: of some repercussions to that, but we'll I'm watching the game,

871
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: but you know you might not be writing about it. Yeah,

872
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: I think we're putting Dan on Falcon's bucks. If I remember,

873
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: you're pulling me off Jets Giant Speed. Well, this is

874
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: this is I gotta pull a rank on this. Come on,

875
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: this is troubling. There's honors at the games. Yeah, we

876
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: need two people covering this, uh five and six matchup?

877
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: Why does anybody have to be there? Somebody's gotta cover.

878
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: He wanted to go. We will take this up after

879
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Speaker 1: I I didn't. It didn't occur to me until now.

880
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, I plug your other podcasts and oh yeah,

881
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: you're trying trying to take it down. I was not

882
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: trying to take it down. I was setting it up

883
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: for a nice plug and then I was trying to

884
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: build some heat around it. Why is it getting it did?

885
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Why is it disappearing? This sounds like a dangerous, sexy show.

886
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to do. Professional user pro

887
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: Do you disagree you thought I was Hey? When I

888
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: think danger and sexy, I think you. Yeah, right back

889
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: at you, buddy, His brother's danger. Yeah, Kevin danger hands us.

890
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Uh. The Arizona Cardinals, the team of

891
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: around the NFL, travel to St. Louis to face the

892
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: team of Greg Rose withal the Rams. Uh. Now for

893
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: one another team that's there. Now you get them for life. Uh.

894
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: They are four and seven in a free fall. You

895
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: know they are gonna have to go five and two

896
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: just to get to their seven and nine goal, and

897
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: they take them three years to get five. So they

898
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, they need to get Todd Gurley back going again. Uh.

899
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: They need to somehow hide their quarterback, which is tough

900
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: to do in the NFL West. That says all the

901
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: makings of another Cardinals victory to move them to tenant two.

902
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: And I know you don't think there's any way that's happening.

903
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: They they're so bad. They've managed to ruin one of

904
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: the best players in the NFL and Todd Gurley. They

905
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: have no offensive line, no quarterback. In fact, the only

906
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: player doing anything on offense is Tavon Austin, who, frankly,

907
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: it's borderline Pro Bowl this year. He is, he's been,

908
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: He's making plays every week. What's he up to? Ten

909
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: touchdowns or seven touchdowns and on pace for a thousand yards?

910
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: But the Cardinals come on. The Cardinals are phenomenal. Yeah,

911
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean if wherever the ten touchdowns have come, it's

912
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: not lately, because that offense is averaging less than thirteen

913
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: points during a four game losing streak. And Greg's team

914
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: coached by Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher has not had a

915
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: winning season since two thousand and eight and not one

916
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: of playoff games since two thousand three. This is the

917
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: most teflon coach in the league. This guy keeps a

918
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Speaker 1: job no matter what he produces six. The most amazing

919
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher stat is he has six winning seasons out

920
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: of twenty one as a head coach. Started in in eights.

921
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: But that's a that's a crazy that's a crazy. Mark. Uh,

922
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: When you said you know they've ruined one of the

923
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Speaker 1: best players in the league, I thought you meant Robert

924
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: Quinn because I you know, I know he's been hurt

925
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: but their defense. Don't worry about their defense. Well I

926
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: do a little bit now. I mean they're not the

927
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: dominant group that we were hoping for, at least not

928
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Well, you're on the field for

929
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: forty minutes a game, now, yeah, that's part of it.

930
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: I think it's just caved in. Nick Foles, by the way,

931
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: will start this game. They announced that during the program,

932
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: So there's some breaking news breaking during our pro While

933
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: we were taking the fourth quarter interception that they threw

934
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: back across the grain was one of the worst throws

935
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: I've ever seen the quarterback attempt. We can move on

936
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: because it's a bad game. But this is the worst

937
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: spot for the Rams because the Cardinals almost lost last week,

938
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Speaker 1: so I think they'll be on their guard and they

939
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: already lost to the Rams, and it's a division game.

940
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: I think they'll be ready to just they have popped

941
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that they were way better than

942
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: in games this year on the road against the Rams

943
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: that get get up for a NFC West team, you know,

944
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: a couple of times a year. I want to be

945
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: shot if this is a close game. I do wonder

946
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: one quick thing about the Cardinals because last year would

947
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: happen along with the quarterback injuries, was the run game

948
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: fell through the floor. And now Chris Johnson is out

949
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: until what would be the Super Bowl maybe so he's

950
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: not been playing well lately, but Ellington is he out

951
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: turf toe. So today I just wonder if without the

952
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: running game being as diverse as it was, if they're

953
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: going to be challenged to be that offense that we've

954
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: seen for I disagree with. I think losing Chris Johnson

955
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: is a big loss. In combination with Ellington not being

956
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: healthy that I think is a big problem. But now

957
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: you have David Johnson, who you didn't trust to be

958
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: your main guy now doing all three downs. I like it.

959
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to record as saying this big improvement. Ris

960
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Johnson was running as poorly as any back in the league.

961
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 1: Over the last he did seem finished, so we'll see.

962
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: You're not gonna believe it, but Connor took the rams.

963
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: The rest of it is just going for it for something.

964
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: Moving on, another early game, the Atlanta Falcons at Tampa

965
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: Bay Bucks. Oh, I don't want to do this game,

966
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Greg Well, I don't want to be the one watching

967
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: the game. Well, it's tricky because there's more at morning games.

968
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: Connor's only got one. I'm only I'm on the couch.

969
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: Can I make a prediction? Greg will try to convince

970
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: us that this is a big game in the NFC. No,

971
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna try to convince Dan. Any game right

972
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: now with Jamis Winston and Doug Martin is watchable. I

973
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: think Jamis Winston is one of the most watchable quarterbacks.

974
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: I have no response for what if you're nursing a hangover,

975
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: you have to watch that red or orange and gray,

976
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: you know what? That's troubling though about Winston, and he

977
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: had four or five plays against the Colts in the

978
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: first half. They were incredible. He has that thing where

979
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: if he misses a throw, he misses by like ten yards.

980
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: That's something that it's hard to fit. He got destroyed

981
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 1: last week to the line fell apart in the second half.

982
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: Connor or took the Falcons in this game. He's out

983
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: of control. Kevin Patra, the league leader and Picks, also

984
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: took the Falcons. That is also the fan consensus, so

985
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: people still believe the Falcons can get it together. The

986
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: rest of us like the Bucks at home. Moving on

987
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars are four and seven, another dispiriting loss

988
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: for them last week. Now they travel to Tennessee to

989
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 1: face the Titans the titoons um Mark Sessler, Uh, your

990
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: thoughts on this game? Is there any reason to think

991
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: that Jaguars are ever gonna hit find some level of

992
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: consistency and make a run of it in their division? Well,

993
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: they don't seem like a team that's gonna find consistency

994
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: this year. But that's also very true of the Titans.

995
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 1: So this one isn't for me. Another coin flip with

996
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: with with Boardles, I think it's been up and down,

997
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: and when when I look at Mariotia, like we've talked

998
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: about a lot, there's not a lot around him, but

999
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: I feel like he needs to have a good month

1000
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: to finish this season because this team, really they started

1001
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 1: out with so much promise and at this point they're

1002
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: gonna get the number one draft pick. I mean, there's

1003
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: just there's a lot. It is good, but there's a

1004
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: lot for this team to to to do still, and

1005
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: I I don't know, I think that the jag wars

1006
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: of the team I'd rather have between the two roster wise,

1007
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: has anything changed in the two weeks since these two

1008
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: teams played each other, no other than finally they've taken

1009
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: the Jaguars off in the hunt. In the playoff picture.

1010
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: You know, they're not graphics. They are no longer in

1011
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: the hunt. It used to be it's gonna be a

1012
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: four team race, but these two teams just couldn't get

1013
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: it together. We also, we're not getting banged in a

1014
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: prime time matchup this time between the games one one

1015
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: Fantasy Uh note uh, you know over on the between

1016
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: two legends, of course, the founders of Rhodo World. Uh,

1017
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: the guys that really invented the fantasy game in a

1018
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: lot of ways, at least in my eyes. Uh, you know,

1019
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: marks also in the room right now. Uh. I believe

1020
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas is going to be a difference maker in

1021
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: the Fantasy playoffs. Coming up ten catches last week and

1022
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: eleven targets over a hundred yards. I could see him, uh,

1023
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, piling up some statistics down the stretch could be, uh,

1024
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: make a difference in some or is the best tight

1025
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: end in this game? To Lanny Walker? Manny Walker is

1026
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: really good. A lot of hot takes. That's a good

1027
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: that's a good tip though, Dan because they tell they're

1028
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball fourty times a game, they sure

1029
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: will take it. D because Julius Thomas is the tight

1030
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: end version of Eddie Lacey. You've put out good tape

1031
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: for three years. You're a good player. You just have

1032
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: to play your way into football shape after an injury.

1033
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: We we thank you, Wes. That means a lot to me.

1034
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: You have no idea. Um, we all took the Titans,

1035
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: which is surprising because the fan consensus on NFL dot

1036
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: com has Moving on, Let's talk about some late games. Uh.

1037
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs Uh, one of the hottest teams

1038
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: in football, currently in position to qualify for the playoffs.

1039
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: A lot of people say that the Chiefs, along with

1040
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: the Texans, should be seen as favorites to get a

1041
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: playoff spot in that in that big pack of six win,

1042
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: five win teams. Uh. They now travel to Oakland in

1043
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: a huge game for the Raiders. Greg Rosenthal, you can

1044
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: almost say, Uh, this is it for the Raiders if

1045
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: they can't find a way to hold Serve at home.

1046
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: Hold Serve. You're a tennis fan. I thought you would

1047
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: like that. Uh. Your thoughts on this game of the

1048
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: Raider is gonna get some momentum and take it through December.

1049
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: Are they going to fade away? I think they'll fade away,

1050
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: which is too bad. I was hoping they would get

1051
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: to the Thursday night game they're on in Week sixteen

1052
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: as still relevant because they are fun to watch, but

1053
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: they're playing one of the best teams in football, the Chiefs.

1054
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: Right now. On Football Outsiders, they have a metric called

1055
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: waited d v O Way that's basically just their regular

1056
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: who's the best team, but it's waited towards the end

1057
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: of the season. It's kind of gives up on the

1058
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: first month that by this point the number one team

1059
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now, according just to their metrics,

1060
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: is the Kansas City best team in the league metrics

1061
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: to hell. I'm just I don't think they're the best

1062
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: team in the league, but I think they're one of

1063
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: them right now. I don't necessarily think it will continue,

1064
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: But how can you argue with what they've done. No

1065
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: team that has Alex Smith is his quarterback is the

1066
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. I'm sorry. Part of it

1067
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: is because they're very steady. They have them as the

1068
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: fifth offense, the sixth defense, and the sixth special member. Um,

1069
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: no weakness. You were you were doing fantasy when this happened.

1070
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: Remember the Sam Kan Sam Kangato year. Yeah? Sure. The

1071
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Packers Spencer where reminds me a little bit of that.

1072
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna be a good player next year,

1073
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: but he's fun to watch. He just runs north and south,

1074
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: doesn't cut, doesn't really do anything, and it seems like

1075
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: he gets six or seven yards every time. Not a

1076
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: medical student like Sam Kangata, but the stars of a

1077
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: line for what the for what the Chiefs want to

1078
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: do on offense, He's a good fit. He reminds me

1079
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: of good old Sam Kangata. Is it flukey? I mean,

1080
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: you look at their numbers since Jamal Charles went down

1081
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: and you got where and and west in there. They

1082
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: are so much better statistically post Jamal Charles. And they're

1083
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: also not turning the ball over at all. That also,

1084
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: they also their offensive line had a lot of questions earlier.

1085
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: I think it just whatever it was, their offense was

1086
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: not clicking and it came took a little time to

1087
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: come together. And I think they'll give the Raiders a

1088
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: ton of trouble on I think the Chiefs will score

1089
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of points. Little Bill simmons ewing theory. Is

1090
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: that what you're saying Mark with Jamal Charles. I think

1091
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: mentioned that with Charles before and it's just I just

1092
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: the whole team has come together. But they are. They

1093
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: are a team that is not turning the ball over

1094
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: and Alex Smith I couldn't agree more like I. I

1095
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: don't want them in the playoffs selfishly based on that alone.

1096
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 1: But Alex Smith is a mistake free quarterback and that's

1097
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: what Andy Reid want. There's three huge a f C

1098
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: games this week in terms of how the playoff race.

1099
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: A look the Bills game that we talked about with

1100
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: the Texans, the Colt Steelers in this one because if

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00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: the Chiefs do lose this, it becomes more interesting because

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00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: I think if they win it, they're just gonna start

1103
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: steam rolling. I know if you if you work for

1104
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: NFL network, you're not allowed to mention the name justin Houston.

1105
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't exist. He can he can hold out forever

1106
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: or sign franchise tag and it won't be ever a story.

1107
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: But he's one of the best defensive players in the

1108
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: NFL and he's not playing, so that could be a

1109
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: big loss. It's a good point. We all took the

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00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs to win on the road. It could be a

1111
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: kiss of death there, all right, it is, you know,

1112
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: one of the best times of the week. We haven't

1113
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: had this man in the STU deal for a couple

1114
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: of weeks, so it's almost like a homecoming, a reunion

1115
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: of sorts. He is, uh the host of Around the NFL,

1116
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: the television show on NFL Network. He is the great

1117
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: Andrew Ceciliano and man, I'm flattered to be back. Thank

1118
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: you for allowing me back on your Around the NFL

1119
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: podcast couch. After Michael Burger was here last week, I

1120
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: realized you only reached for the stars, and thankfully I'm

1121
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: appreciative your route. You reached for me. Well, it was

1122
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: still a great job. I'm sure he did. I mean

1123
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: it was Thanksgiving week, you know, you started to getting

1124
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: the holiday spirit. Yeah, Burger on the show. Well, it

1125
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: was also an attempt to get on NFL network more so,

1126
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: you've got to You've gotta cover all bases. For those

1127
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: who don't know Michael Burger, the producer of the Around

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00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: the NFL television how would you, um, how would you

1129
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: explain your relationship with Burger, would you say it's a

1130
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: horrible relationship, strong relationship professional. We're very good friends, both

1131
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: both on and off the field. Yeah, yeah, I mean

1132
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: he's mildly dramatic. He is. That's what makes Burger good though.

1133
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: But then again, so am I yes, um alright, so

1134
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: Andrew is with us to talk football because Andrew knows

1135
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: his football. I always, uh, I always, you know, um.

1136
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: I I watch you on around the NFL and the

1137
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: way you're able to keep a show moving, you're pretty

1138
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: good at it. You're pretty good at your job, Thank you. Dan.

1139
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a setup, no script or anything.

1140
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: You're just kind of not winging it. You know it's

1141
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna come up, but there's nothing written down. Really, You're

1142
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: just going off the top of your head. Scripts are boring.

1143
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: Teleprompters are boring. Um, but you don't like having a

1144
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: car brother in there with you because it takes some

1145
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: of your spotlight. And oh no, I like working with

1146
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: David Carr. And by the way, the the whole note

1147
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: teleprompter thing. I am assisted by our great NFL network

1148
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: research staff. Today, law Murray doing the honors on the

1149
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: ones and two is usually Aubrey Craigan shout out a professional.

1150
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: I know the two of them listen to this show,

1151
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: so they're gonna appreciate it. Really does shout out. Alright,

1152
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: good guys. All right, let's start talking some football games,

1153
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: and we'll start, uh, continue to dig through these four

1154
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: PM games. The Denver Broncos coming off one of the

1155
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: biggest wins and a recent franchise history for them, a

1156
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: big win over the previously undefeated Patriots with Broncos Widler.

1157
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: Now they had to San Diego to face the Chargers,

1158
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: team that finally got back in the win column this

1159
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: past Sunday um beating the Jaguars. They had lost sixth

1160
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: straight before that. But Andrew, we'll start with you here.

1161
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: The Broncos are you know, I would assume even on

1162
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: the road their favorites here. But the Chargers are a

1163
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: bad team, but not conventionally bad because they still have

1164
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback. This could be a game, right,

1165
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think it is, And I know this

1166
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: sounds odd, and it sounded odd even with you setting

1167
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: it up there. Thank you, no fault of your own.

1168
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 1: Eight score points. He throws for three hundred every week.

1169
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: It seems he being Philip. I don't know that they

1170
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: do that against this Denver offense or Denver defense. I'm sorry,

1171
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: but it is a road game. They had an emotional

1172
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: output the Broncos did last week, and they're feeling good

1173
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: about them. Else. I do agree with you. It's closer

1174
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: than I think many people would would forecast. But I

1175
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: don't I don't see San Diego winning this game unless

1176
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: it's a shoot at And if the Broncos defense has

1177
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: a bad day, which is possible, and Philip puts up

1178
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: his yardage and maybe gets three touchdowns out of this,

1179
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: then it turns into a really interesting task or test

1180
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: for brock Oswiler to see if he can hang with

1181
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: a team that could score even with all their injuries

1182
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: on the road. I'm picking the Charges to win this game,

1183
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: and it's it's not because I think they're better. When

1184
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: you pick upsets, you also you often have to go

1185
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: with a gut feeling. This is a let down type

1186
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: of game for the Broncos, who we're lucky, very lucky

1187
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: to get by a beat up Patriots team, and their defense,

1188
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 1: which everyone out of Habit calls the best in the league,

1189
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: has given up an average of twenty four points over

1190
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: the past month, which is hardly elite. Philip Rivers got

1191
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: all of his weapons about last week except for Keenan Allen,

1192
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: and you saw what he did for touch downs yards.

1193
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess the Chargers are scoring game? What are they?

1194
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: Anybody anybody got that at the Look it up for

1195
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: you in a second. Um, what's the situation with DeMarcus game?

1196
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: His absence has to surely be playing a role in

1197
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: Denver's defense kind of becoming more regular as opposed to

1198
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: when they were playing at a high level earlier in

1199
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: the season. I mean, he practiced this week, didn't he

1200
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: return to practice? Looks like he'll play, which which is huge.

1201
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: And you're right, you would have expected that Broncos defense

1202
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: to really dominate the Patriots offense. I know Tom Brady

1203
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: is the best quarterback in football right now, but they

1204
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: haven't been as special really over the last month. And

1205
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's just where and maybe it's just natural

1206
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: they couldn't keep that pace up because they were at

1207
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: a historic pace. This is a fascinating game to me

1208
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: because brock Osweiler has improved dramatically each time he's been

1209
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: on the field. I count that first game against the

1210
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs where he didn't really play very well. The next

1211
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: game he was just kind of there, and then I

1212
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: think he was a huge part of why they won

1213
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: a week ago. So is this Broncos team gonna be

1214
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: dominant enough with Bronco Asswalder that they just trash lower

1215
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: rated teams like the Charge? And I think that's a

1216
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: great matchup for Osweiler and their offense because they're running

1217
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: the ball almost twice as much in terms of yard

1218
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: just before. San Diego's run defense is worse than Cleveland's.

1219
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: It's awful. And so this is a good matchup for

1220
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: this team. It's it is possible, It is possible. But

1221
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean they're an under center team now, they're not

1222
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: a shotgun team. They run the ball in Osweidler seems

1223
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: to be what they want, and so I like the matchup.

1224
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: Andrew final word to you. The one thing I would

1225
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: say is this, despite you know, we we kind of

1226
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: wanted to uh cut down the Broncos defense to size

1227
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: a bit, they still did get to Tom Brady thirteen times,

1228
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: hit him thirteen times last week. Even I realized the

1229
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Patriots have a very banked up offensive line. But you

1230
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: want to see another banged up offensive line. Look at

1231
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: the Chargers where they introduced themselves to each other every

1232
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: week and um exchange phone numbers because they've never met before.

1233
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: Where they go out there and play, uh this game,

1234
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: Bowl West. You thought you might get a hero pick

1235
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: out of this Connor or the Renegade of around. There's

1236
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: no such thing as a hero pick anymore because the

1237
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: renegade always picks under. What's a hero pick? Just I'm

1238
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: the only one doing it? Yes, um so uh both

1239
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: of the you gentlemen picked the Chargers, the rest picked

1240
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos. U. Moving on, Okay, we just talked about

1241
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots. They will play a four game against the

1242
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, and I think you know this game is

1243
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: kind of a bummer because back in September this you

1244
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: would have looked at this game and been like, oh,

1245
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: this this one could be saucy, back when there was

1246
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: a lot of hope in the building in Philadelphia. But

1247
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: now the Eagles seemed to be going down in flames.

1248
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know those Chip Kelly haters out

1249
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: there enjoying it. I don't know you know who those

1250
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: people are. But the genius might be getting his come up,

1251
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: come up, and and I'll say this, Greg Rosenthal. My

1252
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: fantasy team has Tom Brady on it, and NFL dot

1253
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: Com is projecting that he scores forty three points this week.

1254
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: It's I'm sorry, I don't know how where these years

1255
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: are coming from, but they're predicting a big game for Brady.

1256
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll be that big, but I think

1257
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots are rolling here like you better pick up

1258
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 1: Scott Chandler and Brandon Lafel. That's that's who he's throwing

1259
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: up too. And I know this Eagles defensive struggled the

1260
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. They did get the long rest

1261
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, Chip Kelly talking about kind of going back

1262
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: into into the lab and trying to simplify things incorrect.

1263
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't. As a Patriots fan, I was very excited

1264
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: to see this magic because they're they're hurting right now

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. And to get a

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Speaker 1: team that's struggling like the Eagles. I still don't discount

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Speaker 1: the Eagles though, from putting up a good performance. Why

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01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: not ninety points? I'll tell you why. They've given up

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01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: ninety points the last two weeks to the Bucks and

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Speaker 1: the Lions. It's good reason and Brady's coming off what

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Speaker 1: I think you could argue is his defining game of

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Speaker 1: the year. Even though they lost the game. To me,

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Speaker 1: that made the best case for him as the m

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Speaker 1: v P this year to be out there against that

1275
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Speaker 1: Broncos team and move the ball as well as he

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01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: did with really nothing around them. I at least thought, like,

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Speaker 1: what other quarterback are you gonna put in that situation

1278
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna come up with that good of a result.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think there is one now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think not when you consider they've allowed ten

1281
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: touchdown passes to Jamis Winston and Matthew Stafford combined the

1282
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: last two weeks, and they don't know who's going to

1283
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: start at quarterback. Let's pretend for a second at Sam Bradford.

1284
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything before he got hurt from Sam

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Speaker 1: Bradford that tells me he's he's going to be much

1286
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: of a challenge here for Bill Belichick. UM, I think

1287
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: this game could get ugly. I think that's the easy answer,

1288
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, a few things are more um

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Speaker 1: dangerous for a few things. I would rather face a

1290
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: lot of things than a Tom Brady when he's angry,

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01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: right angry. And also how about yeah, historically what happens

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Speaker 1: when a middling team goes into Foxboro in December. This

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01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: is when the Patriots beat up or not, uh, take

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Speaker 1: care of business in their building. I would be very

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: surprised if this was a close. Well, this game reminds

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 1: me of It's another opportunity to see how far Chip

1297
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: Kelly's star has fallen. Because in two thousand twelve, remember

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01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: it was the Patriots that had Hip Kelly come in

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01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: and teach him their offense and they went out and proceeded.

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01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: Is one of their many offenses they ran that year

1301
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: to run a billion plays against the Denver Broncos and

1302
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: beat them. And now the Patriots with Josh McDaniels have

1303
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: evolved and moved on from that is their only base

1304
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: attack where Chip Kelly is not. And so I see

1305
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: a game where New England smacks this team, and it's

1306
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: another reminder that Chip Kelly's offense is not what we

1307
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: thought it was a couple of years ago. Greg, you

1308
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: worried about Lagart Blount at all? I'm worried, no, because

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01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: he's a limited player. I don't expect I think He's

1310
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: a fine player, but he's a function of the offensive

1311
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: line and they can't rely on him too much. I'm

1312
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: more worried about the other guys, Brandon Bold and James White,

1313
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: getting them into the mix. I think we know what

1314
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: Lagarrett Blunt is. We have the Patriots across the board

1315
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: in that game, gentlemen could get Jamie Collins, don'te Hightower

1316
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: and Dani Mondola back, it's possible and maybe find out

1317
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: what what it was at filled Jamie Collins secret. Uh.

1318
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: Moving on, let's talk a little under feeded action here.

1319
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers are eleven and oh as we enter December,

1320
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: and now they get the New Orleans Saints. Uh. You know,

1321
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: once upon a time going into the Superdome was a

1322
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: quite a task against Dew Brees and uh Sean Payton.

1323
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it is not quite that way anymore, Andrew Siciliano.

1324
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: The Panthers take care of business all season, as the

1325
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: record indicates. What tells us that it's not gonna happen

1326
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: again here trap game. I think they're gonna win, But

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Speaker 1: I also I also think that after Sean Payton and

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: Drew Brees were embarrassed, I think last week I think

1329
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: that's fair to say on the road in Houston. I

1330
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,959
Speaker 1: think they get or they give one of their better

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: efforts of the year. I don't know what they have left,

1332
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: but I do think that whatever it is, we see

1333
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: it this week against the division foe, against a team

1334
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: that won the division with such a poor record as

1335
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: it did a year ago. Um, I think you're if

1336
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: we tweet out Andrew Siciliano Colon Panthers are fraudulent. Ready

1337
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: to never said that, but that's how you know. I

1338
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: will say this. Had a conversation with Thomas Davis Cross

1339
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: Promotion here on the around the NFL week and he

1340
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,959
Speaker 1: said all the right things, but I asked him point blank,

1341
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: I said, what was your reaction? What was it like

1342
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch Sunday night watching the Patriots lose?

1343
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: And he said it was quote bitter sweet because, in

1344
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: his words, he wanted to have two undefeated teams in

1345
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That would have been a fantastic matchup.

1346
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: And I said, it still could be a fantastic matchup. Yeah,

1347
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: I guess you're right, because you guys can both still

1348
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: get there. But um he I give him credit. He

1349
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: is the one guy in that locker room that is

1350
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: willing to talk big picture, where everyone else we're not

1351
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: talking about the record. We are week to week. We

1352
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: are game to game. We are riding the cliches. We

1353
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: are just like our coach. He is willing to admit

1354
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: that he is human, and they are thinking big picture,

1355
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: don't we. It seems like every week we come up

1356
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: with a trap game or some other reason to think

1357
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: the Panthers could possibly lose to a team that is

1358
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: much much weaker than they are. And last week we

1359
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: tried this with the Cowboys and it was Panthers smacked

1360
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: him down. The Saints got beaten around by the Texans

1361
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: defense that I believe is the best in the NFL

1362
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: right now. The Panthers are right behind them. Though. I

1363
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: think the Panthers in the number two defense in the

1364
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: NFL and they have stars at every position. I just

1365
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: don't see the Saints getting back on track this week.

1366
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean, the Panthers haven't turned the

1367
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: ball over in three games, and the Saints that their

1368
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: offense is falling apart, and they're oh and six when

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01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: they score less than twenty five points. That's how bad

1370
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: this defense defense is historically and comically bad. So we

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01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: can't even blame Rob Bryan, and we try to come

1372
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: up with a reason to believe that the Saints are

1373
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: halfway decent every week. This is a team that's lost

1374
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: in consecutive weeks to the Titans, to the Redskins by

1375
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,839
Speaker 1: more than thirty points and weren't remotely competitive in Houston.

1376
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: Right now, they can't. I didn't think Drew Brees could

1377
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: do a lot last week. I mean, they can't go.

1378
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: They could not protect him up the middle at all

1379
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: against Houston. It wasn't just J. J. Watt. And now

1380
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: you've got Kwan Short, you got loads Lee, you got

1381
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: that that rush. I mean, I think they'll get after

1382
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: Charles Johnson coming back. That would be big. Did anyone

1383
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: hear the JJ Watt wired where he he said, will

1384
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: you please please help Drew Brees? I like him, I

1385
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: don't want to hit him this much. Well, at one

1386
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: point he was waving at the huddle, the Saints huddle,

1387
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 1: saying I'm coming to get you, and on the next

1388
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: play got right in the backfield and dropped a hammer. Well,

1389
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned west the play where they bring over to

1390
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: Ron arms Armstead, who's a Pro Bowl level tackle put

1391
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: him next to your right tackle, so having two tackles

1392
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: matched up next to each other just to try to

1393
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: stop JJ Wat. And it didn't work. I have never

1394
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: seen a team move their left tackle next to the

1395
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: right tackle to stop a pass rusher. Have you? I've

1396
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: never seen that, and I did. I wasn't even where

1397
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: they did that. They did that, and Wat split him

1398
01:09:55,160 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: for a second. That's unbelievable. Not a trap game, bab Is.

1399
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna win this game, right, No, Connor or the renegade,

1400
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: says the Saints knockoff. Just a professional. Well, he's in

1401
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: last place he would he would be, Actually, No, Greg

1402
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: is the professional contrarian of around the NFL. Connor is

1403
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: just he's a bad boy. He's a wild card. I'm

1404
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: not a professional contrarian. I would never pick against about that.

1405
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: You're an unprofessional contrarian. All right, you've got me, You've

1406
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: caught me. All right, So, man Connor, who's the last

1407
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: place in the picks. He's got to make a move.

1408
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: I guess this could be seen as a desperate act

1409
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: move going desperate. Hexton's Week one. I know he's an

1410
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: interesting character. We love him or you kidding me? Was

1411
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: a huge hit. Got a lot of good quarterback on

1412
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: Twitter this week. Okay, before Andrew goes, I do want

1413
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: to touch base with a tweet. Uh Andrew sent out

1414
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: on December one, which would I guess would be Tuesday.

1415
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm fearful of this. What is syneak? Can I just

1416
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: have a little hello? Damn at Adele? He made sure

1417
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: he put at. Maybe she'll reply. I cannot get that

1418
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: song out of my head. And I assume it's this song. Yes,

1419
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: it is, alright, this song out of my head. And

1420
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: let me explain why. When I was home for Thanksgiving,

1421
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: my three year old niece loves this song. And if

1422
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: I were to post the video of my three year

1423
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: old niece singing and dancing to the song, he would

1424
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: go viral and she'd be on Good Morning America. All right,

1425
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: it's she's three years old and she's doing this interpretive

1426
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: dance around the house. And you know three year olds,

1427
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: You guys, you have kids, right, they speak, but not

1428
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: that much, right, I mean they speak when they want

1429
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: to speak, and sometimes it's gibberish. She knows the lyrics

1430
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: and she's three, and there's no idea what they mean.

1431
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: The Adele thing too like The Adele thing too, is

1432
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: funny because all their songs are about heartbreak and sayd

1433
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: this and breakups. And there's like a three year old

1434
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: singing the song belt right and she it's awesome. And

1435
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: then she's just dancing into and it's it's almost like

1436
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 1: she gets into trance. Anybody could take out their phone

1437
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: and pull up music and play the song and she'll

1438
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,879
Speaker 1: freeze and all of a sudden start dancing and singing.

1439
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: And so when I was home for Thanksgiving, I heard

1440
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: it about three or four times, and then my brother

1441
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: gave it to me on video. I showed it to

1442
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: my grandmother, who couldn't be there, and then she laughed,

1443
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: and then it got passed around and so now I

1444
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: cannot get This is a bit of a deft move

1445
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: here by Andrew though, because he's saying, oh, it's about

1446
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: my like it is and no, but you also liked

1447
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: the song and probably in in the car with the

1448
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 1: windows up might be belting out thinking about somebody that

1449
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: got away, yes or no, that's what I was, that's

1450
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: what she's open. How could you not think of? And

1451
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: that is the there's no one specific necessarily, but that

1452
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: is the sign of a true artist. Right, she owns

1453
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: that corner? Who owns that corner? And there? Right, it's

1454
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: like that old adage. No, I know what all those

1455
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: lyrics are about. Well, I mean she every one of

1456
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: her songs is like that. And how many times has

1457
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: this woman had her heartbroken? I don't know how many

1458
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: times she milk having her heartbroken? Seven years old? I

1459
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: think it's the same guy too that she's singing about,

1460
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: which makes you gotta be thankful for that relationship. Taylor

1461
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: Swift as well. Well, those are all different guys, Um West,

1462
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: good job, look at you plug Taylor Smith. All right.

1463
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: Andrew Ceciliano. He is the host of the Around the

1464
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: NFL television program Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday at three

1465
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. On Thursday six pm Eastern, Sorry about that,

1466
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: uh three hour show beginning at two pm Eastern on

1467
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: Thursdays ahead of Thursday Night football. Andrew getting that car

1468
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: cranks some Modell and connect with the best. That sounds

1469
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: like a video that I could take and then maybe

1470
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: tweet out, yeah yeah that a Dell song. Um, guys,

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: uh it did? It? Does get me thinking about the

1472
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: announcement that was made at halftime of the Thursday and

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01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: night football game that the band cold Play will be

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: one of the halftime acts for Super Bowl fifty. Your

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Craig, Oh, you're coming to me, Well,

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: he cold Played to me, it's hard to get too

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: excited about. I feel like they're like the Andy Dalton.

1478
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: They're they're like the Dalton scale of Dalton came out

1479
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: today and said he's a big cool Play fans, which

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01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: makes it probably why it was in my head. I mean,

1481
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hate I'm not gonna hate cold I

1482
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: think Cold Blake gets beat up on a little more

1483
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: than they should. Like this could have been trained uh

1484
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: playing five hipsters like hipster's like to have a lot

1485
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: of hot takes on could have been they did not.

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: They did not engender any kind of hot take one

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: where but they don't what do they engender? They have

1488
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: nice little elevator music, like it's not offensive exactly everybody agreeable.

1489
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,799
Speaker 1: But because if something that popular just for being milk toast,

1490
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: just for being like boring, those are the types of

1491
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: movies you don't like, right, But that's also I would

1492
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: not equate cold Play to a bad movie. That's also

1493
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: a criticism that that's where I think they get a

1494
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: little too much, too many shots. I think they if

1495
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: you listen to their early work and their later work,

1496
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: they have they have evolved as a band. I think

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01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 1: they have a little unfair And we brought up I

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: do I like cold Play. My wife loves cold Play.

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01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: She would leave me for Chris Martin. Um, Sydney, can

1500
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: you he's available? He helped me out. Um it did

1501
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: with the adele and the breakup music. I just wanted

1502
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: to share a quick cold Play story from mid twenties Dan,

1503
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: a sad period of my life. Um where this song,

1504
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: this song? We went to a cold Play concert on

1505
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore and me and like a bunch of

1506
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: my friends and and uh, a bunch of bros. Now

1507
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: there there were some women there too. It wasn't like

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01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: West's a trip out down to the casino whatever that was.

1509
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: And it was a bunch of you don't have guide

1510
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: trips now we do? We do anyway, So this was

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: at the Jersey Shore. We went to see them at

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01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: one of those outdoor pavilions. And um, I had recently

1513
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: been through a breakup with my college girlfriend. No, no, no,

1514
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: this is a different woman. And uh, in the breakup.

1515
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: I had not gotten over West can I tell the story.

1516
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: It wasn't Cara either, I had not gotten over the relationship.

1517
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: My good friend Bob, who's a friend of the show,

1518
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: had also been part of a breakup, and we ended

1519
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: up sitting next to each other at the show. We

1520
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: got separated, and uh, this song came on, and uh,

1521
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: both Bob and I kind of just like watched the song,

1522
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: watched the stage and both had like a moment where

1523
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: we didn't say anything to each other, but we both

1524
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: knew we were profoundly sad at the same time about

1525
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: our personal lives. And old play brought that out. So

1526
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: little appreciate something you should you should get credit for

1527
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: that sounds horrible. It's a human moment. It was human,

1528
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I always want to hear that song.

1529
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: I think of being sad at the at Homedale, New

1530
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: Jersey's outdoor theater. Uh with that song on, thinking of

1531
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: my college girlfriend. I just like that. I'm going to

1532
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: be in the same stadium as Apple Paltrow. I don't

1533
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: think why would she be there? It's his child, not

1534
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: gonna be Probably Paltrow is probably not the last name

1535
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: of the child. That's the unfortunate thing about you know, breakups.

1536
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: They the dynamic is a little different. I don't know

1537
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: if the kid's gonna be there. I would bring Apple

1538
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. How many times is this gonna

1539
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: happen for Coldplay? Probably this will probably be the only time.

1540
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: So there's my cold Play story. Could have been seriously,

1541
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 1: could have been Maroon five, and then we would have

1542
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: had a realize. I thought I just figured number fifty

1543
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: that it somehow would be more excited. I don't know,

1544
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: there are more acts to come. I will say what

1545
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: people this This was earlier the day it broke that

1546
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: Coldplay was the halftime act of super Bowl fifty. This

1547
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: will be a different type of show where there's gonna

1548
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: be other big time ax associated so it's not gonna

1549
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: be only called cold Play gets some hate because of

1550
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: how they came into the scene at a time when

1551
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: white Stripes and radio Head were kind of dominated, and

1552
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: then it was like Coldplay was like the radio or

1553
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: Radiohead replacement, and they're gonna suffer by comparison, and everyone's

1554
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna like that's that's that's Radiohead. And then they their

1555
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: sound got a little more grandiose, and they got labels

1556
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,480
Speaker 1: a kind of a YouTube knockoff. They never really established

1557
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: their own. They were also they came of age with

1558
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: Travis Mark or one of the UK Vans, and they

1559
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: were Originally Travis was seen as a band that Coldplay.

1560
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm hearing a rumor that ten thousand Maniacs maybe the

1561
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 1: past hit. Oh really yeah? What about Emmy Lou Harris, No,

1562
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: she should not. Not a ground swell amount support for

1563
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: that beyond what Lucinda Williams I would love. This would

1564
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 1: be a great one. But Greg, you're concerned about whether

1565
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: cold Play is good at music or not, and that

1566
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: is no bearing on the Super Bowl halftime show, which

1567
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 1: is all about arm It's not about music. We'll put

1568
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: Chris Wessling knocks another one out of the park. Let's

1569
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: move on and talk a little prime time football. Sunday

1570
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: Night football. The Indianapolis Colts and Matt Hasselbeck, who is

1571
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: of course four and o now as starter with Andrew

1572
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: Luck sidelined, head to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. Nice

1573
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: little match up here. The Colts of one three in

1574
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: a row. Now they're over five hundred, tied for first

1575
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: in the a f C South Um and they will

1576
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: face the Steelers team that is also six and five

1577
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: and looking to uh, you know, really establish itself as

1578
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: a favorite to get a wild card spot. Love this matchup,

1579
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, who do you think is a favorite? Is

1580
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh Steelers a clear favorite in this game? Where

1581
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: can't you discount the forty year old Hasselbeck. I would

1582
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: much rather hitch my wagon to Pittsburgh for the rest

1583
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: of the season because I despite Levi on Bell being

1584
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: out the lineup when they are hot this these two

1585
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: teams played that one of the best games of the

1586
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: year last season, and the Pittsburgh air attack can be

1587
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: that same kind of offense, and that's the kind of

1588
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: team you want to get into the playoffs with. Where honestly,

1589
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: it's disturbing to watch Matt Hasselback be the guy that

1590
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: finally gets some of the receivers going, and he's gonna

1591
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: be out of the lineup at some point anyways, I

1592
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: would I just think the Steelers are one of these

1593
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: teams with Ben Roethlisberger, if he's healthy, that has a ceiling.

1594
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: We don't know. West. Do you think it's fair to

1595
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: say that the Steelers aren't getting enough credit for how

1596
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: well they've moved on from Levy on Bell, who's such

1597
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 1: an important player, arguably the best running back in football

1598
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: when healthy. Yeah, I think that's fair. First of all,

1599
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: as Greg pointed out in this week's Quarterback Index, the

1600
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: offensive line isn't missed a beat with that, with losing

1601
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: Marcus Pouncey and uh their left tackle, they haven't missed

1602
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: a beat. They've been great. And D'angela Williams has the

1603
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: exact same stats is Levan Bell with two fewer care

1604
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: or two more carries this year, same yards per carry.

1605
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: And Ben Roethlisberger. I mean this, this offense is too

1606
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: much firepower for the for the Colts. Hasselbeck can't. He's

1607
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: a game manager. He's not gonna keep up with Big

1608
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: Ben in this game. D'Angelo Willen is one of the

1609
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: best running backs in the league, I mean, one of

1610
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: the best seven or eight. This year, he looks as

1611
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: good as he ever has. I've really been impressed. He

1612
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 1: breaks tackles, he's wildly patient just wait. It's very similar

1613
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,839
Speaker 1: to Bell waiting. I mean, he's just it's insane. Sometimes

1614
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: he's just standing there and you're and you're thinking, like

1615
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: you gotta go man. But that's how good the offensive

1616
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: line is, and that's how you are watching bet On

1617
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,839
Speaker 1: Bell to just like go and then he does and

1618
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: it all works out. I think West of the Nail

1619
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 1: on the head there because I think the Steelers are

1620
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: gonna score points in this game. There's no way they don't.

1621
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: And the culture winning these games, you know, they're like

1622
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: twenty to fourteen type wins. Uh, they are not going

1623
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: to be able to win a game when the other

1624
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: teams scoring close to thirty points. I think this is

1625
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a game where the Steelers are gonna cruise potentially.

1626
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: I think it's the game of the week. I do

1627
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: think it will be competitive game of the week. It's

1628
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: the game I'm most excited to watch once again. Uh

1629
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: whatever NBC paid for Sunday Night Football, I mean, they

1630
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: just gotta They just gotta send and you know, like

1631
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: trash talking emails to ESPN every once in a while,

1632
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: like with this lousy Monday Nights slate and then that's true,

1633
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: that's true the next the next few weeks are ugly

1634
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: on ESPN. I'm just saying they get great games every week.

1635
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: I do think the Colts have shown a little something.

1636
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: They're they're very feisty. Hasslebeck played a terrific game last week,

1637
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 1: and he's so calm in the pocket. He's directing traffic

1638
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: in the middle of the place. He's having fun. He's like,

1639
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: this is the end for But he looks very once again,

1640
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: I'll say, and I really think Andrew Luck can learn

1641
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: has learned, just probably from watching how he's operated, kind

1642
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: of like D'Angel wounds. There was one play last week

1643
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: where Hasslebeck's back there in the pocket pointing around, and

1644
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, what other quarterback really does that in

1645
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: the middle of a play that he's that I'm in

1646
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: the moment that the guy on the other side of

1647
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: the field does it. Ben Roethlisberger does that. And I'm

1648
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: not saying he's the best quarterback in the league, but

1649
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: I know there are times when you watch for Quarterback

1650
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Index that you have to sit there and watch Big

1651
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: Ben and say, who's better than this guy? I think

1652
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: per I think he has more big good plays than

1653
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: any quarterback in the league this year. I think if

1654
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: he had played every game, he'd be in the NV

1655
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: His performance against the Seahawks last week. You look at

1656
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: the box score and two interceptions. The one Richard Sherman

1657
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: got away with past interference and the second one Big

1658
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: Ben tried to hold his throw and it just escaped

1659
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: his hand. But it was almost a flawless if the

1660
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: yards ripped away on the stupid catch rule with Wheaton. Uh,

1661
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: every he's nobody bombs the ball like he's Roseby almost

1662
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: like I never saw him play, obviously, But when you

1663
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: watch Joe Namath highlights like every you know, he dropped

1664
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: back and just unleashes these shots, you know. And and and

1665
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: that's what Ben Roethlisberger has become, this guy that just

1666
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: goes downfield all the time. They're almost a mirror image

1667
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, except the Cardinals have a much better secondary.

1668
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: We all took the Steelers to win this game and

1669
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: moved to seven and five. Uh, they certainly feel like

1670
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: a heavy favorite to take that wild card spot. We'll

1671
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: see if they take care of business, which takes us

1672
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: to Monday night. Who get um listen to get an

1673
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: n FFC East game, which on paper probably looked pretty

1674
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: decent in the summer. Well, you got an NFC East

1675
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: leading Redskins team. The bad news is that they're five

1676
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: and six. They're facing the Cowboys who are uh d

1677
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: e D dead with Matt Castle at quarterback, Tony Romo

1678
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: refractured is clavical, of course, and Thanksgiving, so the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are out of the mix of three and eight. The

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01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Redskins gotta take care of business here. Uh West, you

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Speaker 1: are the leading Redskins supporter in this room. If you

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01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: do not take care of business against the Cowboys, I

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01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: cannot take you seriously. Any concerns that they could be

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01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: flat in this game, no concerns at all, and from

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01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,520
Speaker 1: no one. They go by the name the lowsome Cowboys.

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01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: Once again they do something incredibly loathsome. They're not putting

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01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: Tony Romo and I are because they need him back

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01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Give me a brain. Why is that?

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01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: Because everything out of stupid man, everything out of that

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01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: city is delusional. It's just absolutely delusional. Rainbows and ponies.

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01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: Give me a break. How about the speaking of delusional

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01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: that I have a tweet pulled up here the Greg

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01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: Hardy Winter Code giveaway coming up on December nine, team

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01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: at Walmart in the Greater Dallas area. I think that's

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: not buying it. Greg Hardy's Camp Winter Cooky Redskins are

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01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 1: one of these teams that are are so much better

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01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: at home. And Kirk Cousins, what last five games? Only

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01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 1: two picks? I know that he goes back and forth

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01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: and Soda Soda the Redskins, but at home, I'd be

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Speaker 1: surprised that they don't win this pretty easily. They haven't

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01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: played any good teams at home, and they played a

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01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: lot of good teams in the road, which they the

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01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: Rams at home when you were calling them the best

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01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. And here's another team that's not

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01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 1: good that they're about in the NFL like a surefire

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01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: playoff team when they beat them. Wow, we none of

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01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: us had the Bengals in the playoffs. None of us

1708
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: had a lot of things. We thought the Rams were

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01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: really good. Four three different teams that are literally in

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01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: the playoffs now with five weeks left in the season.

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01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: You know, predictions go wrong. I have the Vikings in

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01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs. There we go. I'm not here the whole way.

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: You're just saying the Rams were good when they beat him.

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01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: Here the home wins for Washington this season. Uh, Buccaneers, Saints, Giants.

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01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: Who's a good team. I think the Bucks are an

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01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: interesting team. They weren't and they weren't that early in

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01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: the year though. The Saints and the Giants, I mean,

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01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: they're not terrible too. I don't know all those teams

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01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: are better than the Cowboys. I agree with that at

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01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: this point. Cowboys are done. God take care of business. West,

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01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: be a rough Sunday night for you. And again, I

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01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: don't think the Redskins are too good. I don't think

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01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,839
Speaker 1: the Redskins are good. The rest of that division stinks,

1724
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: and they've been the best team all along, right, I mean,

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01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 1: they're They're not remotely competitive when they play good teams.

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01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Cousins isn't really that up and down at this point,

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01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: which is which is good for that team. He like

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01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: the team is up and down, but he's just kind

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01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: of a function of everyone around him. Yes, so we

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01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: all took the Redskins in that game. A lot of

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01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 1: these across the board, which historically we get whacked on,

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01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: so something could happen. I still cannot believe we all

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01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: took the Browns. That's outrageous. All Right, that's it for

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Speaker 1: another week of UH prognostication and previewing and mirth and

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 1: UH cold play talk on Around the NFL podcast. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back, of course, on Sunday night with our flagship show,

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01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: which you can check out on YouTube and NFL Now.

1738
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: And speaking of NFL Now, we we were up in

1739
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 1: the studio all week. We're always recording content up here, uh,

1740
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: putting that up on on the video on YouTube. So

1741
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: we have that that playlist which you can get around

1742
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 1: the NFL players if you go to our Twitter page.

1743
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: The link is right there if you want to check

1744
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: out some of the stuff we're doing a video like

1745
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: the shirts that Mark wears. West is wearing a nice

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01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: form fitting Henley long sleeve T shirt today with a

1747
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: Holy Cow Barbecue a local barbecue joint hat. Uh. Very fetching. Uh.

1748
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: So we will be back on Sunday night, so make

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01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: sure you tune in. Thank you for everyone, Thank you

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01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: to everyone for listening. Thank you to ANDREWS Ciciliano. That's it.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan hand A signing off for Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss La Side behind the Glass until

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Speaker 1: Sunday m