WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Solutions On Offense 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.440 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:16.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This He's Talking 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.640 Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:31.840 the Star in Frisco. Say, and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:38.000 Heck Maharrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. It is a 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:43.080 Thursday on Talking Cowboys. Here from the s WBC Mortgage 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.160 Studios at the Star in Frisco. Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back, 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:51.480 Heck Maharrison, Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yeomans as we continue 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.520 to preview the Dallas Cowboys and the New York Giants. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:01:00.680 It is Week fifteen of the NFL. Isn't that wild? Wow? 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:02.840 Last year? Guess what? This would be the second of 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:08.720 last game? Whoa would be the penultimate game? Possibly? I 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.440 guess Yeah. We've been at you would have three lass, 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.520 We've been at this for five months. Been a minute, 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.040 could be two more months? Hey what you did there? 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.039 You never know? You never I like you? I like 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.440 that or no? I like that shirt? Rob Pie, Well, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.160 thank you, it's nice. I like yours. I like heck sweater. Yeah, 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.200 hex sweather is is what I was going to point 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.240 out the cream. Is that the way from Jonah? The 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:36.800 Jonah story? He said, what it was? Everybody ends up 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.080 dressing nice on Thursdays. I think that mostly because I'm 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.920 your security on Thursdays. You're my security. Absolutely. Have you 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.560 seen him? Assume that You guys haven't seen the lines 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.720 of people that walk out this door, down the hallway 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.480 and into the garage. You've seen it, Rob, Yeah, yeah, 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.440 we've all seen it. Yeah. Not not the truth? Not 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.840 the truth? Are you calling me a fibber? Yes? You 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.960 are a liar. Friend. You have private transportation when you 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:08.600 cover these games. Nod over there, you know he does. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.160 I don't get those same types of heart all the unfortunately. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.440 But how's it going, heckman peg? Yeah, you're feeling good, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.880 feeling wonderful. What about yourself? I'm fantastic friend? Yes, well yeah, yeah, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:23.560 we want to talk about dak. You want to talk 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.680 about this office. You want to do some news. Let's start. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.440 Let's start with news and those that stacks all right, 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.000 news and notes. Pretty clean injury report for the Cowboys. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.480 We've covered the names already. Zeke was and they did 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:43.280 a walk through yesterday because Isaiah GPS numbers. It's a 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:48.079 different time in era these days. Um GPS numbers. Yeah, 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.840 Mike McCarthy says, they're GPS numbers. A lot of guys 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.119 on the team were through the roof in the Washington game, 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.320 so gell it back a little bit, back a little bit, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.040 so I would imagine a more normal practice today. They 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.560 were inside yesterday turned out because of the wind. It 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.160 looks like they're gonna be outside today. Zeke was a 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:11.760 full participant, so was Um. I'm blanking, I'm blanking. Tony 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.000 Pollter did not practice, and it sounded like Mike thought 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.400 he would. Yeah, he did not participate in the walk through. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.440 Who's working off the side during the open portion. Sean 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.240 mcun was a full participant. I believe he's dealing with 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:28.240 a nick Yeah, okay. And Tyron Smith did not practice 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.000 obviously with the ankle injury. So that's all they got 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.240 on the active roster right now. It's pretty good. It's 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.440 a short list. It's definitely guys that you're thinking maybe 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.800 there's something more to that, or at least with Tony Pollard, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.920 it's that's a big miss in a couple of different areas. 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.320 But outside of the fact that it's not a very 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.880 long list. You have to feel pretty good about it. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.880 we'll see what Tony can do today. They sound, I 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.400 would say, maybe cautiously optimistic. But if you can't get 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.160 into practice this week, I don't. I don't know if 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.560 he would go again this week. So basically you're thinking 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.880 limit today, if he's going to try and find his 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.040 way back or if he's not on the field today, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.360 do you think he's probably going to be out this way? 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.600 I mean, Mike always says take it up to Saturday, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.400 but I think, yeah, this would be an important day. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.000 Of the fact that he did not participate in the 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:13.760 walk through, it was kind of strange, I don't. I mean, 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.880 you know, Mike thought he would do something, but I 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.520 guess maybe they just want to focus more on the 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.279 rehap stuff with Britt yesterday and today's more of a 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.000 padded practice, more of a full deal should be. I'm 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.880 not sure if it's padded, but yeah, more of a 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:30.440 full practice, gotcha? Gotcha? Well, hopefully you get at least 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.599 one of those two guys fully healthy and ready to go. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.520 We talked about the possibility of sitting Zeke yesterday, and 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.000 I feel like that was probably the most hot button 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.720 topic on social media yesterday was I mean, I feel 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.720 like my mentions I don't know about you guys, was 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:49.400 filled with fans either expressing concern of one game's not 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.000 enough for saying no, their competitors get after it in play. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.520 So it's definitely a debate amongst Cowboys Nation. But anything 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.320 changed for you guys if Tony Pollard's not available either, 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.159 because we talked about it a little bit yesterday. But 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.440 the more I sat on it, the more I thought 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.680 Corey Clement and Jaquan Hardy does not make me feel 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:13.680 comfortable with this run game period. However, maybe not a 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.320 healthy Zeke doesn't really make me feel that great either. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.480 Up at the top of the depth chart, I say, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.360 sit them. You haven't having budget, I having Budge, not 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.120 one bit. I don't have as many followers as you. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.440 I think I have five, and I think I got 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.000 one person that mentioned this, So I'm at like twenty 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.320 percentile right now. Wow. Man, But I think, just like 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.080 I staid yesterday, I believe that Dak and TP they 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.040 both need to sit their buzz down right. I'm not 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.800 coming at their willingness to play. I'm talking about the 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.840 training staff and the coaching staff, their decision makers need 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.000 to take it upon themselves to take those guys competitiveness 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.880 out of this particular game and ensure that they can 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.719 get as healthy as can be going into the next week, 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.120 because we already know TP's injury that's not going to 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.200 get better by wearing, wearing and tearing. Obviously, he's not 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.279 even in walked through. Okay, now you got Zeke. We've 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.400 seen what happens with Zeke over these past few weeks. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.600 He's not Zeke and that's no fault to him. He's injured. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.039 He's not hurt. He is injured. There's a big difference. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.560 He is playing through an injury, and every time he 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.080 takes a shot on that particular portion of his body, 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.559 he feels it and he has to go off the field. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.880 He now, what's that takes place? He now is really 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.640 good to simply just pass blocking and we don't need 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.919 Zeke out there as just a pass blocker when he 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.120 could be usiizing that time to get healthier, and he's 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.640 gonna continue wearing a brace on that knee, right, Yeah, 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.719 got what news was coming out yesterday? Yeah, he says 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.560 the first time he's worn a brace since high school 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.880 and it actually helped him out. It didn't really constrict 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.680 him that much. Yeah, he did say this is the 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.560 best I felt in a while. So he said last week, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.600 you're gonna have to drag me off the field. You know. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.479 That's one other thing he has said recently is he 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.680 thinks in a few weeks this will get back to 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.360 one hundred percent. I don't know. I mean, it's something 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.520 obviously that's affecting him, but I don't see him not 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.520 playing in this game. And I would I would play 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.599 anybody who's healthy enough to play in this game to 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.760 try to offensively, to try to get everybody back rolling again. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.880 And this is an opportunity we'll get into it where 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.360 I think maybe they can get the running game going 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.760 this week. What do you think now, you did say 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.560 that you don't trust Corey Clement and this offense. Are 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.560 you saying that you feel much better with obviously, Yeah, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.480 obviously feel better with the starters, even maybe a hampered 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.760 Zeke over those two guys. Yeah. And I think in 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.800 place of Tony Pollard and everything he's going through with 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.200 the Plantar, the Corey Clement, to me, especially in these 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.040 games right here, I feel comfortable with him, uh, you know, 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.120 coming in to spell Zeke. I think he has some 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.320 really good runs. I look for him to have better 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.880 production against the Giants if they decide to sit Pollard. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.480 I think Pollard is the X factor in our running 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.320 game right now, change a pace that we definitely will 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.760 need going into the playoffs. Whatever's being said about Zeke, 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.440 I think I leave it up to Britt Brown and 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.360 all the people that have said so many wonderful things 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.800 about him as a trainer this staff, and then protecting players, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.000 and with the way that this team has talked about 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.440 Mike McCarthy as a coach, they labeled him as a 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.520 players coach, and I guess that's a good sign from 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.160 your team, just basically saying that he looks out for us. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.920 I don't see him putting Zeke in a situation that 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.720 if it wasn't gonna get any better, he had any 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.200 chances of hurting himself, he wouldn't be playing. So, I mean, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.160 we talked about that at length yesterday. But this running 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.760 game going over the next four going into the next 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.280 four games, we've got to get some type of synergy 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.440 going with that because we haven't had much. Now, do 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.320 you think the offensive line up front is better suited 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.800 this week, with the exception of Tyren Smith. If they 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.640 were to go with Connor Williams at establishing the run game, well, 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.880 I mean, come on now, just be honest with yourself 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.760 when you know Connor McGovern hasn't given you much better 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.800 than what Connor Williams was given before, and he struggled 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.800 last game. If you just watch him, he you know, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.120 a lot of the pressure that was in Dak's face 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.760 was coming right over the top of that left tackle position. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.360 We still have to play Philly, and if you guys 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.400 don't remember, we had some problems with them upfront as well, 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.240 even though hey, they may not be a game with 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:04.080 much ramification, but when you go into the playoffs, look, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.240 the front of your offensive line right now is struggling. 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.920 And if they don't want to give credence to that, 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.240 at least look at the film and see how Beatish 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.880 and mcgovernor are struggling the last three games. After this 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.959 Giant's game, Washington's front still gonna be nasty. Yeah, the 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.400 Cardinals front definitely nast And then of course you've got 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.240 the Philadelphia Eagles, who we have seen that so far 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.760 You're right, this is the one week where you feel 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.840 like you have an opportunity to set your stage for 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.280 the final three games on your offensive line. And Jerry 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.160 Jones talked about it on the fan earlier in the week, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.280 speaking to there's got to be some sort of continuity here, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:45.720 There's got to be some sort of thought process, comfort level, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.840 and they don't have that right now at the offensive line. Yeah, 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.320 Mike said something interesting a couple of days ago where, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.559 because he's been mister Continuity, like you could just give 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.640 him that nick name, so well, yeah, would I say 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:01.559 complimentary drink or yea one, either one. He wants continuity 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.160 on his offensive line. In fact, he went as far 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.640 as say, last year, when everybody broach the idea of, hey, 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.280 everybody's banged up, maybe kick Zach Martin at the right tackle, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.920 he called that fantasy football nonsense. Now they've switched a 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.360 lot around the line this year, and he did say 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.560 recently that like, yes, continuity's important, but in so many 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.160 words like you got to have the production too, So 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.760 he's not opposed to switching things around if they need 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.800 to find the right mix. They're still looking for that 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.600 right mix. They have not figured it out since I 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.640 don't know, four or five weeks ago, and part of 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.160 its injuries, you know, and there's tiring out again, so 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.120 you're just gonna have to make do on the left side. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.640 Where does it change in that mindset come from in 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.600 a coaching staff in regards to what going from one 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:48.400 year of saying, hey, there's an entire thought process of 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.920 having the same five guys, same five was the big 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.560 cat topic of the conversation last year, and then this 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.760 year it's let's just pick and chooes back and forth. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.839 If you're if those five guys aren't getting it done, 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.280 then everything's on the table because your job as a 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:03.840 coach is to put the best product on the field. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.440 You could argue they didn't get it done last year, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:10.120 though everybody was getting sniped last year. I mean last 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:11.959 year was just like, man, I don't even know what 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.840 you want to call that. But if you're not being successful, 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.800 that doesn't mean continue to beat your head against the wall. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.440 That means continue to try to find a way to 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.000 be competitive. You know, there's a culture of competitiveness now 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.640 within this organization. So if you're not doing your job 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.200 efficiently and effectively so that everybody else around you can 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.439 be successful, then you're you are in a position where 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.800 you can lose your spot. So that's exactly what happened 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.920 with Connor Williams. He brought in his Connor Bro. Connor 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.160 Bro came in and connor Bro got beat up too. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:37.720 You know, I think we saw that last game he 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.079 was getting he was getting got driven into the backfield. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.480 So guess what now, you're not doing what you need 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.360 to do. So we're going back to connor Bro number one. Okay, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.160 he'll possibly right and he could be having an opportunity 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.599 that he lost originally and hopefully he won't want to 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.880 lose that opportunity again. So that's that's just the position 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.640 that you're in, and I think that's how you change 0:11:55.679 --> 0:12:00.559 that mindset. Mike has said the status he's big stat 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.480 analytics guy. You win more games when you've got the 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.760 same five all season long. The continuity on the offensive 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.520 line is maybe more important than anything. But it's easier 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.760 to say continuity five years ago when you got Travis 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:17.000 Frederick as your center and Tyron's not missing games and 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:21.120 Lyle's not suspended all pro games. Yeah, seriously, and then 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.400 don't let's not forget Lyle Collins had to sit a 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.520 few games with the suspension, so it just hasn't been 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.760 the normal deal. And it's and they are young up 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.040 the middle too. You just want to drive a steak 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.360 into the heart of all Cowboys fans of reminding them 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.640 the days of old of this offensive line. I mean, 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.120 they were that was as dominant an offensive line since 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.080 the nineties. Are you and Isaiah was on the team 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.720 in the midots, are you saying that this offensive line 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.360 isn't the same old Cowboys offensive line. I think they're 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.400 in transition in a couple of spots. I think they're 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.120 still very good in certain spots that Zack Martin is 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.480 a probably a future Hall of Fame and Tyron Smith 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.079 is still very good when he's healthy. But they're young 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:00.640 in a couple of spots, and they're still trying to 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.480 figure things out. And they've even tried to figure out 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.840 the right tackle position because Lyle has missed so much 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.760 time due to injury the last couple of years. It's 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.880 been a line more in transition than the stability that 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.880 they enjoy us when Garrett was here. It's Lyle's time 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.800 coming to a close in a Cowboys uniform. No, No, no, 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.640 I don't believe. So. I believe that Lyle has an 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.480 opportunity over these we talk about the next four games 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.920 to solidify himself and get maybe out of the doghouse 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.120 from some of the coaches. I think his reputation may 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.199 have taken a hit with what happened the suspension, But 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.840 you saw him being a missing piece last year. Let's 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.520 not fool ourselves. Man still did the best he could 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.319 last year and we saw the same musical chairs of 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.840 the offensive line. That continuity take a drink didn't happen 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:48.720 last year and we're seeing a lot of it happened 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.360 this year. But still going back to Tyrn Smith, Look, man, 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.120 he's when healthy, he's the best in the business, period 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.200 all right. And there are a lot of people obviously 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.839 when the draft show starts, that's where they're gonna pinpoint, Hey, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.199 we need to start getting the tackle in that transition 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.760 that you're talking about. Maybe it's time to start thinking 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.360 about the air apparent to that position. But right now, man, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.679 I just like making this run getting guys healthy. We've 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.760 gone through this season without giving any credence to how 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.560 much this offensive line has been hurting in certain positions. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.880 That's what sucks. I think about this specific instance because 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.400 you said when healthy. I hate that asterisk because Tyren 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.840 Smith has not been healthy and that's a not just 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.920 a twenty twenty one deal, that's over the last five 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.440 six years of his career. But you're right, number two 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:38.080 rated pass blocker in all of football when he is 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.120 available and ready to go, and that's what you're missing 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.400 whenever he's not available. I mean that it doesn't get 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.560 much better than that. I am going to disagree with 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.080 my young cello over here, mister oak Cliff. I believe 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:53.080 that that guy that Colin's job is ons on Rocky 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.640 Rocky Road right now, and a reason being is because 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.240 the inconsistency. I think the reason being because of what 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.400 happened with his appeal and all that jazz. And then 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.840 also when you look at the comments last week, the 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.960 might post a question to Jerry Jones and said, Hey, 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.920 you know who's gonna be playing right tackle? Iss gonna 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.640 Still it's gonna because I don't really care who's out there. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.760 I'm kind of paraphrasing, right, he said, I don't really 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.440 in so many words, I don't really care. It doesn't 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.760 matter to me, Like, oh, that's not what Jerry would 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.240 say about Collins in the bast right. So that leads 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.120 me to believe that if there, if he's if he's 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.520 able to comment that easily in response to a question 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.160 and not say that, hey, Carl, you're not as Collins 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:30.880 for sure, that's mine, that's my guy. He said, it 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.560 doesn't really matter to me. Oh now, lets you know 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.400 that your job's up for position for graps. Yeah, I 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.840 don't know if perception is always reality in a situation 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.440 like that. With what he said, all I'm saying is, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.600 if you look over the league and you look in college, 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.480 it offensive linemen don't grow on trees. They're not the 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.320 easiest to find, especially guys that can run block. Leo 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:54.480 Collins is a strong, able right tackle. He's had his 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.480 struggles coming back from the labroom surgery, but he is 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.600 not a talent that I'm willing to say just because 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.520 you had this problem, we're gonna toss or you know, 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.400 reading between the lines of what's being said about him. 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.720 I'm looking at the production on the field. He's had 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.640 some struggles, as they all have had struggles. We've even 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.160 seen Zach Barton, the guy that we say is a 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.160 Hall of Famer straight up have struggles this year. So look, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.080 I'm just looking at it from this approach. Let's get 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.400 these guys, let's get time and Smith healthy, and let's 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.200 make a run. All right. That's that's my whole thing. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.280 And if Leo Collins is a part of the conversation 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.400 next year, then obviously we'll start talking about that next year. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.320 But right now, right now, you know we have him. 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.000 I think y'all both right, because I think go back 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:42.320 to Thanksgiving Day and Mike McCarthy said that Terrence still 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:43.880 had earned the right to start it right tackle, So 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.200 I mean there's a competition there, but I'm I'm with 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.880 Heck in terms of like going forward. I don't know 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.120 what the cap situation would be if if they were 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.280 to move on from Lyle Collins. But to me, with 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.240 tiring with those those injuries. This is a popular topic 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.800 this week, along with is Michael Parsons the next LT? 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.200 That's wrong with Dak? Those are the three things. What 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.320 do you do with tyring an offensive tackle next year? Yeah, 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.440 I'd look at draft in that position for some death. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.520 Keep developing Terres Steel. How about Lyle Collins taking some 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.080 reps at left tackle? Starting way back in the spring 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.520 and get him ready to be available on that side, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.480 because yeah, because I mean, he's a Vet. You know, 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.520 he's a vet that could play that position, has played 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.600 that position in his life, just not in the NFL. No, 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.800 that's a really good point because if you want to 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.560 look at that continuity, take a drink. Moving forward, you 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.639 feel like there's an opportunity there for maybe Lyle Collins 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.000 to fit into that spot left tackle, not left guard 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:43.640 either one I just makes following as left. I'm just thinking, 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.720 you know, if you're trying to shore up that position 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.760 knowing because to me, Tyrn Smith is the starting left 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.000 tackle again next year, but he has miss games every 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.680 season since twenty fifteen. So have him ready, have have 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.399 Lyle ready more ready to play that position? I think, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.239 you know, maybe this year they're just trying to get 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.720 him back from the injury last year and then came 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.679 to the suspension all that. You know, let's maybe give 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.720 him an opportunity on the left side. That's just me talking. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.560 I like that idea either either or honestly, I would 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.240 put him in left guard if if you had more time, 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.080 if you had an offseason to train him into that 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:15.639 and get him ready for that. 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