1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we goes Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the truth lives here. Pack twelve Apostles Apostles. I'm George Rice. There, 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: he's Ralph Amason, and this is the Pac twelve Apostles, 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: and college football chaos is a plenty, I mean insanity. 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: And when we think about where we were three weeks 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: ago to where we are now and understand that this 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: is the new normal, people, the new normal um Pack 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: twelve chaos, unbelievable, un freaking believable. I'm still in shock 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: to this day of the Heisman Trophy. There's a school 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve that's getting another one period unless 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: he lays an egg this weekend, and the transfer portal 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: is popping. It ain't even December five yet, and it 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: is already like people out there, they're like, oh, I'm 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: getting in, I'm getting in. And we have coaching vacancies 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: and we lost a legend and one of the vacancies 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: was filled. So we will start though with the chaos 18 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: that is college football. Ralph, I believe that this is 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: the new normal that we are going to continue to 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: see like that it's never been easier to be good 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: at college football, but also it's never been harder to 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: be elite at college football because of the transfer portal, 23 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: UH coaching salaries and the link that the contracts would 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: tie them to them and inn I all money one 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: million percent agree. UM. You had a really good Right 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: Start Wrong podcast about that earlier this week about how 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: it's never been easier to get good UM and use 28 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Washington and usc as as examples of that. But it's 29 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: it's never been harder to stay elite UM, which is 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: why we've seen our Obama UM falling off a little bit. 31 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: And it's not just the two losses, it's a bunch 32 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: of one score games as well. So UM interesting interesting times. 33 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: I am not the biggest fan of the portal UM. 34 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: I like no and I like the fact that the 35 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: players have more control. UM. What I worry about and 36 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: and the dynamic that I've seen more recently that I 37 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: know a lot of college football players and their parents 38 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: is a lot of these decisions aren't even being made 39 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: by the players. It's parents getting that they're that their kids, 40 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: who are adult men at this point, aren't playing and 41 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: getting in their ears saying that like the whole holding 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: still is no longer growth right, like you grow over time, 43 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: your feet always have to be moving. They always have 44 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: to be moving. It's like the people who weave in 45 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: and out of traffic on surface streets. They cut you 46 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: off three times and then you end up at the 47 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: same stoplight to get there. They could have just stayed 48 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: in the flow of traffic, but they have to be 49 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: They have to feel like they're doing something. And I 50 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: don't necessary. I think kids have the ability to handle 51 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: waiting and growing. I don't think their parents do. And 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: I well, see, I think it's the parents that make 53 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: the kids impatient because they're saying, hey, man, you should 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: be out there. I we we sign up for this, 55 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: we didn't do this. And they all think that you 56 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: have to be playing early and often to get to 57 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: your destination. When I talked to a lot of former 58 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: NFL players, guys I play with against and all of that, 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: and that the thing is is that like, yes, ideally 60 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: you would like to play early, but sometimes the struggle 61 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: of not being able to play early is the thing 62 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: that prepared propels you to be great and willing to 63 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: do the great work. So and I remember after we 64 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: played in the Holiday Bowl my red shirt freshman year. 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: The first game of the season, we played at Wisconsin, 66 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: and mind you, I played in every single game, at 67 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: least probably like ten to twenty players. Every single game 68 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: that year. They threw a ball to me. Joey Harrington 69 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: threw a ball to me at the beginning of that season, 70 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: and I got absolutely demolished in Camp Randall Stadium. I 71 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: mean flipped upside down every it was bad and I 72 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: dropped the ball. I did not get another target, not 73 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: not another catch, not even an uncatchable ball thrown at 74 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: me that entire season. And I remember everybody was so 75 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: happy when we beat Texas in the Holiday Ball. They 76 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: were like every fireworks going off and uh a quality 77 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: calm at the time. And I was standing on the 78 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: field because it was dark and I was the only 79 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: well I don't know if I was the only player, 80 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: but I was on the field crying my little eyes out, 81 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: crying my little eyes out. Everybody was so excited except 82 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: for me, and I've made a mission. At that point, 83 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: I was like, this will never happen to me again. 84 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: I will never in my life finish another season. Because 85 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: I was like, the only way that people will know 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: that I even played, Like, I'm not even in the 87 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: stat book. I was like, the only way people will 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: even know I played is if they watched the game. 89 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: I didn't even get a penalty that that year, so 90 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: there was no unless you watched it. There was no record. 91 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: So and that was a thing that propelled me. Aside 92 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: from an ultra competitive having competitive people around you and 93 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: all of that and being talented, it was the thing 94 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: that was like, no, I'm I'm going to work. I 95 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: don't like this. I don't like this. And there is 96 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: a certain element of that uncomfortability that that needs to continue. 97 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: And there is an element like like, for instance, Ralph 98 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: texts me before the show today and he was like, 99 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: do you need a minute to grieve because, uh, Butterfield 100 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: from Oregon is in the transfer portal and he's a 101 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: dude that I don't have a problem with transfer. He's 102 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: been there for three years still he might still have 103 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: three years of eligibility left because of COVID, but I'm like, 104 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: he's a dude that has been in the system. It 105 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: didn't work there, and he's like, I don't want a 106 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: chance next year, like I've put in work. Maybe I 107 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: feel like I should be higher on the depth chart. 108 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: He probably yes, Oh, he's probably yes. He's probably graduated already, 109 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: and so he may be able to transfer twice because 110 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: he'll get a grad transfer and the and a the 111 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: one time free transfer. So I don't mind kids like 112 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: like that, but there are other kids like I was 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: prize that Dante Thornton from Oregon, the wide receiver who 114 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: had a huge game against what was it Utah. I 115 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: was surprised that he ended up in in the portal. 116 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: So I love the portal, but Ralph, I am also conflicted, 117 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: and we talked about this earlier because there are good 118 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: parts and there are bad parts to it. I mean 119 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: there are good parts and bad parts to anything in life. 120 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: So the good part is players get to move, teams 121 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: can get better faster, But then you're gonna have teams 122 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: lose players, and it also changes your fan experience on 123 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: how you root for those teams and players when now 124 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: you can't invest three to five years into him. It's 125 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: like a year to year proposition. Yes, yes, and that 126 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I love the portal. I love 127 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: the control that players have. What I don't love is 128 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: um movement just for the same age of movement. But 129 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: then you know, you look at guys. So Isaiah Lewis, 130 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: Colorado safety, two time Pack twelve Honorable mention was hurt 131 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: this year head coaching change. Why wouldn't he? Yeah, why 132 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't he? Right, But if you're doing it, if you're 133 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: jumping in the portal just to jump in the portal, 134 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and last year, I think we saw a bunch of 135 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: people jump in just to see if their own team 136 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: would provide them with enticements to come back to school. Um, 137 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: which is fascinating. But you know, I don't know, man, 138 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna see a ton of movement. I don't think 139 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of players that actually play 140 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: like it was last year. And if that does happen again, 141 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: then I think it's gonna be good riddance to USC. 142 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people already feel that way anyway, right, 143 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: because you had a lot of people who were starting 144 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: and who were going to continue to start and star 145 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: on their teams in the Pac twelve, like Brendan Rice, 146 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: I'm sure or Die would have had a hundred and 147 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: fifty carries. I'm sure that Eric Gentury would have been 148 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: all Packed twelve as a linebacker with Arizona State. I'm 149 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: sure that Washington's past defense certainly could have used uh 150 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: some of the help that they lost to USC. Same 151 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: with Colorado, and so you know, it's one of those 152 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: things where it's and maybe Oregon becomes that team or 153 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: maybe Washington. I don't know, but I don't like it 154 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: when players that are already playing are bouncing. I don't know, 155 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't I don't have to, like I can see 156 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: the benefit of Christian Gonzales to to Oregon or did 157 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: you not mind that because the coach got fired? Oh wait, no, no, no, 158 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, Carl Carl do Rail was still 159 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: there this the beginning of this, right, But there were 160 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: a lot of staff changes right at Colorado UM, there 161 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: were a lot of staff changes. I think he waded 162 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: through a coaching change, possibly if I'm not mistaken, But 163 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: I know that the lead recruiter on a lot of 164 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: these guys was their offensive coordinator, who is now an 165 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: assistant at You see, like, coaching movement plays into a 166 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: lot of this. And I don't have a problem with 167 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: a coach who is getting paid somewhere else and doing 168 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: a good job taking one red cent more to go 169 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: do the same job somewhere else. So you would think 170 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: that I would not be a huge hypocrite and begrudge 171 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: players for doing that exact thing. But I and you 172 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: understand what it's actually like out there to be an 173 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: alumni of a school twenty years after you've graduated. And 174 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: I feel like some of these people that have bounced 175 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: around and done mercenary duty duty if they didn't get 176 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: their degree in their first place. Because to me, if 177 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: you've got a degree, to me, Jane Daniels is a 178 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: son devil forever. We have the same degree, who both 179 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: have a bachelor's from Arizona State, And there's probably a 180 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of Arizona State football fans that consider us both 181 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: a huge depotment disappointment. Like what like if you got then, 182 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: if you got the degree, then it is what it is. 183 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: But I think you know that if you had bounced 184 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: for your final year, if you had played three years 185 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: at Oregon and then instead of going to the NFL, 186 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: you had done one year at TCU, Yeah, would your 187 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: connection with Oregon be what it is today, which is 188 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: a really important part of like your sports identity if 189 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: I did, yeah, uh yeah, yeah, it probably would be. 190 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: But probably probably not, probably probably not. How many State 191 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Russell will Wilson fans are there? Three? I mean, but 192 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: there are probably some NC State fans that wanted him 193 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: to stay. They were they were like, yo, he should 194 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: not be leaving, he should not be leaving, and that 195 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: we need to keep him here. There were probably a 196 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: decent amount of those people. But but after he's gone, 197 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: because I talked to like guys from sc was talking 198 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: to guys from where all these other schools, and they 199 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: were like, you leave, bye bye, you are you are 200 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: now almost like exiled and excommunicated on some on some 201 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: level like like you want to leave, peace out, brother 202 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: and that, And so that's what I'm saying. You know, 203 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: he threw Russell Wilson to like seventy touchdowns for North 204 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: Carolina State, and he had the one really good year 205 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: at Wisconsin. But what do you think of when you 206 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: think Russell Wilson Wisconsin? Yea, And so you know, it's 207 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: that type of thing that I think you don't realize 208 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: it until you get further out that the four You know, 209 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: you're not making a four year decision, you're making a 210 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: forty year decision. You don't understand that unless you're actually 211 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: gonna go back and use the value of that alumni 212 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: network and be part of you know, there's not a 213 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: lot of guys go on to be like seven time 214 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: all pros, like like Russell Wilson. A lot of guys 215 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: go and have a cup of coffee and then their 216 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: opportunities that they have uh come with the town that 217 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: they played in, which I think it's always really important 218 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: to consider the community because could you go back there 219 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: and live there and be part of that you know, 220 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: business network or whatever. But are you going to be 221 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: even accepted back if you went and did something elsewhere? 222 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: And that's that's the new reality of it, and we're 223 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: not gonna know what it looks like until we're ten 224 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: years down the road. And and the bunch of people 225 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: that you typically would see come back to have a home, 226 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: talking about hanging out with business networking with the people 227 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: that are part of your alumni group until that's not 228 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: really even an option anymore because they were at three 229 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: schools in four years, you know, and that and that 230 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: that part of it, that part of it. I wonder 231 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like down the road. Um. And 232 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: Plus I do I do like to see people kind 233 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: of enshrined as having their era at the school that 234 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: they that they pick. So if you're playing, if you 235 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: are actually getting playing time, and you're playing at a 236 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: high level, maybe think through bouncing for a hundred k 237 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: two hundred k to spend one year at a place 238 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: that isn't gonna think twice about you because they're buying 239 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: up unless you do something spectacular like what like bow Nicks, 240 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: if he stays at Oregon again, he'll be an Oregon guy. 241 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, he might be an Oregon guy. He 242 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: might be an organ guy anyway. But look at it, 243 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: what would Dalton King Dalton Kik would be just another 244 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: person that played at Alabama. He's a Utah legend. Now 245 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: he didn't take that Alabama money. He's a ute a legend. 246 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: And I want players to think, and there's value and 247 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: and and there is value to that. It doesn't feel 248 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: like monetary value in the short run, but I guarantee 249 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: when you actually get out in the real world, even 250 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: after your pro career finishes, if you are fortunate enough 251 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: to have that sort of thing, though, that's when it 252 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: really cashes in. Is actually while you're playing, business opportunities 253 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: even more money making opportunities, and when you're done, that's 254 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: when it really matters, Like, like who is who is 255 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Travis die gonna be able to connect to He didn't 256 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: finish his season at USC because of injury. Oregon is 257 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of like you left bro bye, So like you, 258 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: you lose on both sides, and especially with a one 259 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: year transfer. Now, Caleb Williams, who uh is now probably 260 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: going to win the Heisman Trophy. He's now a legend 261 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: at USC for sure. Yeah, a legend now. I thought 262 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: he won the Heisman Trophy this weekend. And granted, your 263 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: team's success should not necessarily mean whether you win the 264 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy or not, because it doesn't always go to 265 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: the best player, doesn't always go to the guy. It 266 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: goes to one of the best players on well sorry, 267 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: either the quarter nine times out attend a quarterback or 268 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: occasionally a running back on one of the top five 269 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: or six teams in the country, and that's it. Probably 270 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: wanted the top four. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta, you 271 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: got a factor in wins at some point because if not, 272 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: we're probably given the Heisman this year to a six 273 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: ft to white wide receiver at the University of Idaho 274 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: who who moved from tight end to white out and 275 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: had eight two catches yards and sixteen touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah, 276 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: he'd be invited to New York too, for sure. Yeah. 277 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: I think we do need to expand the position group 278 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: because the quarterbacks are not even always the best players 279 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: on the team. But I do believe that Caleb Williams, 280 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: this dude is freaking good. Bro. He is good. He 281 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: makes plays, He's got a special arm. This dude here 282 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: lies a ballplayer. Uh. I get more. I get more 283 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: text messages about his manicures than I do his play 284 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: on the field. Now, I don't. I'm he and it 285 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: And the one last week was like, what it's a 286 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: fuck Notre dame it did. I'm not a big fan 287 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: of that. Um, I'm not a big fan of that. 288 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't have a problem with him, 289 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: and he isn't. His mom is like a manicurist, so 290 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a family thing. But yeah, I 291 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: get there's a lot of there's a lot of dudes 292 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: that are like, I don't know about him in the NFL, 293 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you mean you don't know? 294 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, he paints his Nails like, that's 295 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: not then what do you do? You know how many people? Well, 296 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: first of all, I don't think he's super likable, like 297 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: in terms of like, I don't think that he has 298 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: that super cool factor or the likability that that he 299 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: wants to necessarily have. I think that if he goes 300 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: in the end, well, when he goes in the NFL 301 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: next year, that people accept you if you're good, just 302 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: like carl Carlton Nassat, he comes out, are you getting 303 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: sacks or are you not? And if you are throwing 304 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: the football like Caleb Williams is doing, hey Man Paintion Neils, 305 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: you want to keep throwing around. None of those dudes, 306 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: none of those dudes worried about Cayley Williams nails would 307 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: not take prime Dennis Rodman on their on their favorite 308 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: basketball team. Damn. That is a great point. That is 309 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: a great, great point. Um. But the chaos so so 310 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 1: we've already covered the Heisman Trophy. We think it's going 311 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: to Caleb Williams after Ohio State lost, and and I 312 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: think it's the timing and the fashion that they lost, 313 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: and there's so much chaos over the last couple of 314 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: weeks in college football, and this last week it started 315 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: with Mississippi State beating Old Miss. That was the case 316 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: the last two weeks of Old Miss losing their lane. 317 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: Kiffin's fault for letting the rumors get out of control. 318 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I've seen this movie before with Mario 319 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: Cristo Ball and meanwhile, meanwhile, the actual guy they hired 320 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: got blown out by New Mexico State, which is you 321 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: gotta try to get blown out by New Mexico State. Yeah, 322 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: you gotta try because the team knew he was lead. 323 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: It just changes when when your team, first of all, 324 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: they're already college kids. Stuff goes up and down. But 325 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: when they feel something off too, they're not playing for 326 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: you in that same way. Fox Sports Radio has the 327 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 328 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within 329 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio apps s R to listen live now. 330 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: Um n C State beat North Carolina State backup quarterback. 331 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: There still fourth string quarterbacks, fourth string quarterback beat a 332 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Heisman contender Ben Ben Finley, who is their backup hunter 333 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: by the way, and Ryan Finley's younger brother who went 334 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: on to play for the Bengals. He comes in there. 335 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: He throws two touchdowns and he beats a Heisman contender 336 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: in Drake May. It was a nonsense weekend. Yeah, he 337 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: had a better I think he had a better completion percentage, 338 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: more yards, and more touchdowns and did not throw a pick. Yeah, 339 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: it was crazy. And then we also had so U 340 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: c l A went to it with with cal and 341 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: then the chaos superstarted. Now Ohio State Michigan. I I 342 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: thought so part of me thought Ohio State was gonna 343 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: win this game because I thought that they were gonna 344 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: be able to force Michigan to throw the ball. And 345 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: you know what Michigan did. They could not run the ball. 346 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: But then they started chunking it up over the top, 347 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: they made plays, they broke tackles and gage. I mean, 348 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: it was insanity. And then that was a blowout when 349 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: and honestly, and I know that this sounds outrageous, right, 350 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you I know this for a verifiable fact. 351 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Day, He's not getting fired, but he is definitely 352 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: on the hot seat. And if he gets offered an 353 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: NFL job, it might be time for him to take it. 354 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: He might he might want to come on over the 355 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: pack twelve. We got the money when we got the 356 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: school that has the money. He might want to make 357 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: his way over the Bay Area to to Stanford. Yeah 358 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: why not? M h See okay, So is Ryan Day 359 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: a great head coach or was he born on coaching 360 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: third base? With what Urban Meyer left looked, they've looked good. 361 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: Outside of two games, they've looked pretty good. Uh well, okay, okay, 362 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: see see here's the thing. Against Notre Dame, that game 363 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: was tight early right when when Notre Dame wasn't playing well. 364 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: So any time that they've played a decent team, I 365 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: mean even against pen Penn State, they started super slow. 366 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: Against North Northwestern that was a disaster. Um they all 367 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: that Maryland pushed them to the brink. This was not 368 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: a like their Their offense starting back to last year 369 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: when they played against Oregon goes to shambles. It's it's 370 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: it's like he can't get it going in the beginning 371 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: of the game. And then against Michigan and then Michigan 372 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: literally just ran them over. It was forty five to 373 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: twenty three, and it honestly didn't even feel that close. 374 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: I I'm not gonna speak down on somebody who uh 375 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: when eleven and won this year, Like I And I 376 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: think if you were presented with the option, and I'm 377 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: not talking about now when you've already spent a year 378 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: rooting for the guy, but if when when the coaching 379 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: job opened up in Eugene last year and you had 380 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: the choice between Ryan Day and Dan Landing, I think 381 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: you're probably taking Ryan Day. And all he's done is 382 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: win eleven games since then. Like it's not it's I 383 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: understand that, but do you do you understand Ohio States 384 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: fans a little bit of questioning is he the guy? 385 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Because it's easy to win all of your games except 386 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: the big ones when you have that roster. Yes, there 387 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: are more big ones than just one game. But I 388 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: will say I will say they would not have had 389 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: those concerns if they beat me. If if you're concerns 390 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: are dependent upon one result, then they're not concerns. Then 391 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: you just over emphasized one thing. And I'm far be 392 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: it from me to tell any Ohio State fan that 393 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: the that the Ohio State Michigan rivalry isn't what it is. 394 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: And if TCU loses this weekend, then Ohio State's probably 395 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna go to college Football playoff and get another opportunity. 396 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: And if you talk wins, that's probably the same thing 397 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen as Ohio States that are gonna be 398 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna be next in to get plugged in there. So 399 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's fine. But if hey, 400 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: if he wants to come to Stanford, he wants to 401 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: come coach at Arizona Cardinals, I'm not gonna stop him, 402 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: all right. So and then there was more chaos. L 403 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: s U got beat by Texas A and M I 404 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: knew that was going to happen. I rarely bet on sports. 405 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: I bet big on that game money line, because you 406 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: know how sometimes you just know that something meant And 407 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: I bet on the South Carolina clemsing in. I knew 408 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: what was going to happen. You flat out told me 409 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: they were going to get run. I was supposed to 410 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: be at game, but I just needed a day to 411 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: a day, a day to chill. I'm happy for Spencer Rattler. 412 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Uh South Carolina that lost Scott Sadderfield um and and 413 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: I've never seen South Carolina fans so um it was. 414 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: It was interesting to watch their grieving process over losing 415 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: their o C because it was like, well, he gave 416 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: us two good games there at the end, and then 417 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: he got himself another job at Nebraska. We wish you 418 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: the best because they spent all year hating his death. 419 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: I went to a couple of South Carolina games this year. 420 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: I hated him, So you know, um, but when they 421 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: look back on this season, they're gonna feel real good. Yes, 422 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: they put out like the funniest tweet earlier this morning 423 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: that said number nineteen in the college Football playoff voting. 424 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: That's our highest ranking ever. But college football playoff voting 425 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: has only been around for a couple of years, so 426 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: that made me laugh. But going back to your LSU thing, though, 427 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: former Arizona State quarterback Jade and Daniel everybody spent this 428 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: whole year talking about how like, oh they fixed him, 429 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is back. YadA, YadA, YadA. Interesting stat breakdown 430 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: on Jaden this year looks a lot like his freshman year. 431 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he only threwdowns but wait for this, 432 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: wait for this. In eleven games, in eleven games against 433 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: FBS opponents, So you got to throw that southern result 434 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: out playing a swack team, right, he had twelve touchdowns 435 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: twelve touchdown passes in eleven games. He's still the same 436 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. Oh my god, he's never thrown Oh my gods, 437 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: he threw seventeen including that game, and that's the highest 438 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: that he's ever thrown. Yes, seventeen was his freshman year, 439 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: his senior stats. Look, oh my god, yes, I was 440 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: looking at it in reverse order and didn't look at 441 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: the years. Yeah, it's the same quarterback rating, the same, 442 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: Lord heaven. It's completion percentage went way up, but his 443 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: yards for a time went down. And uh and and 444 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: the rating is in the in the same territory. Now, 445 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: he effectively ran the ball in the sec, which I 446 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: think is going to give him some NFL looks. But 447 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: if I'm him at this point, do you leave school? 448 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: He did have a d touchdowns. He ain't no damn 449 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: running back though he's not a running back so and 450 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: and he's not Lamar Jackson either, So no, he better 451 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: take his ass back to back to school because if if, 452 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: if he goes out, he's gonna be like a what 453 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: like a fifth round, fifth rounder, sixth rounders I don't 454 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: know about. He's not gonna be hired in that. I'm 455 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: telling you right now, he's the fourth at the optimal 456 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Like everything goes right, He'll be a fourth round draft 457 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: draft pick if everything goes right and breaks right for him, 458 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: and you do not want to go in in that 459 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: life if you have other options, hints, look at a 460 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: guy like Matt Correll. Matt Correll got drafted in it 461 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: I think the third round, and if Carolina ends up 462 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: high enough in the draft order, they're gonna take a 463 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: quarterback he spent. I mean, he got he got hurt 464 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: this year, but that's what I'm saying. But but if 465 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: he had been a first round draft pick, they don't 466 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: draft another quarterback, right, But Matt Correll had Matt Correll 467 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: had his time committed to US, but in his last 468 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: two years of Old Miss he threw forty touchdowns. Yeah, 469 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: so he you know, that's not that we're not talking about, no, no, no, no. 470 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about like the draft status versus what 471 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: the team will do. That's what I'm saying. Like teams 472 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: don't typically do what the era Zona Cardinals did when 473 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: they uh punted on Josh Rosen, but then they also 474 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: saw Josh Rosen play, as opposed to if Josh Rosen 475 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: had been hurt his rookie year, they probably don't do 476 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: the same thing. You know what I'm saying, Like if 477 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: he missed his old rookie year, they don't do the 478 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: same thing, right, And only only nine quarterbacks were drafted 479 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: last year, only nine, and Brock Purdy, who had four 480 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: years of proving that he was a good passer at 481 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: Iowa State, was the Mr. Relevant. Yep, So would you 482 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: would you? Would you consider Jaden Daniels to be a 483 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: better quarterback than than Brock Purdy? I don't know if 484 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: I would, So maybe feels feel feels very same same 485 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: because if we're looking at the quarterbacks that are going 486 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: to be drafted this year, so Bryce Young is gonna 487 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: come out. C J. Stroud is gonna come out, right, Um, 488 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: people believe Anthony Richardson is gonna come out, and that 489 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: makes no sense to me, Right, I don't think he 490 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: can pass the ball good enough at this point in 491 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: point in time for him to be trying to come 492 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: out in the draft. Well, I'm sorry, passed the ball 493 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: consistent enough. I think that he's a dude that needs 494 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: to go back to school. Hendon Hooker's gone, obviously, Um, 495 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: Cameron ward is does he have one year left? Or 496 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: is this it? He's gonna he's got more eligibility. Oh, 497 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: he needs to stay as ass in school too. If 498 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Pannox Jr. Holiday to player when you see 499 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: him in the streets, Buddy, I've shown that I can 500 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: throw the football at a very high level. He is 501 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna be Sam Hartman recovered and through touchdowns. Yeah, I'm not. 502 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm not taking I'm not taking Jane Daniels over Michael 503 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: Panics or Sam Hartman. Yep, I'm not. And then people 504 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: love will Will Levis. I mean, is Jaren Hall is 505 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: better than Jaden Daniels. Yeah. Oh, and then that's before 506 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: you throw in the great white white hope too, in 507 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: Tanner McKee or Jack Clumber who is kind of the 508 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: same yep, Kate k J. Jefferson at Arkansas like him 509 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: and Jade Daniels Field kind of you know, same, same, same, same, 510 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: And and don't forget like at this point, Dylan Gabriel 511 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: could leave school if you wanted to. He's been in 512 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: school forever yep. Rattler, Like, it's like it's gonna get 513 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: sticky around there, bro. So if you're not for sure 514 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: at the top of the pile, take yourself. I mean, 515 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: and I said, and I would say the exact same 516 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: thing to bow Knicks, who has been fabulous this this year. 517 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: But I do think that there is in some people's 518 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: mind still they still see bad bow Knicks or the 519 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: or the potential for bad bow Knicks, despite what he 520 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: showed all year and then two years of good bow Knicks. 521 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're like, oh oh that was a that 522 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: was an Auburn thing. They sucked and we didn't even 523 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: we didn't even, we didn't even mention Max Dugan is 524 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: attend to one touchdown to interception ratio and probably going 525 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: to college football playoff Oh yeah, oh yeah him, oh yeah, exactly, 526 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: um and more college football chaos. And that leads us 527 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: to the pack twelve, and we will start with what 528 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: was God damn bro, you're having a migraine onset, migraine. 529 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: The most unbelievable game. Okay, do we need the Sarah 530 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: McLaughlin music in the background, dude? This one? Okay, speaking 531 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: of Angels, this was an Angels in the outfield performance 532 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: felt like because when when you watch this game, would 533 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: you would you say that Oregon State is better than 534 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: Oregon No? Right, I would tell you they looked really 535 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: good in that first quarter. Oregon State looked really good 536 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: in the first and then it was and then and 537 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: then talent took over and then you're like, what the 538 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: hell happened now, Oregon if you didn't watch this game 539 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: and only heard about it. So Oregon was up thirty 540 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: four to seventeen when the fourth with fourteen minutes and 541 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: fifty seven seconds after they kicked the the field goal, 542 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: they were up seventeen points to start the fourth quarter. 543 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: They lost thirty eight to thirty four. Yeah, and I 544 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: guess you would call it a turnover when they when 545 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: they dropped the punt because they got the ball in 546 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: the one yard line, three touchdown State. Yeah, and they 547 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: did not throw a pass from the middle of the 548 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: third quarter, and all Oregon needed to do Oregan State 549 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: was not gonna pass to pass the ball, you lit, 550 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: they didn't even attempt. They didn't even fake like they 551 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: were gonna pass it because they could not trust I mean, 552 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and I told you this prior to the game. 553 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: I was like, they're gonna make make gold gold brands 554 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: and pass it. And he's better, I mean in Oregon's defense, 555 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: and dbs and linebackers are better than big being gold Brands, 556 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna throw the ball to him, which he did twice. 557 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: And the fact that they could not get a stop. 558 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: I thought that this was I thought that that was embarrassing. 559 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: And I thought that the way they lost it reminded 560 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: me of the Baltimore Ravens losing the game to the 561 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins in the beginning of the season. It was unbelievable. 562 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, everything that could go wrong happened, and then 563 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: Oregon could not regain any momentum. But then they did. 564 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: It was thirty four thirty eight, three minutes in like 565 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: three minutes and fifty seconds left or whatever. Oregon has 566 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: the ball first and goal at the five yard line. 567 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: I was like, as long as we don't give up 568 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: a touchdown, this is a burrito buddy, mm hmm. And 569 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: they ran the same gap scheme, played to the left. 570 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: They back missed the whole once. He should have bounced 571 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: bounced out. But I thought that Kenny dilly Ham, who 572 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: may have had his mind on Arizona State too much, 573 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: put put together a a sequence and and and granted 574 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting ready, and and and let me put 575 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: my tinfoil hat on for a second, Okay, I think 576 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: Oregon fans deserve to be tinfoil I had about it. 577 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: I just don't think they're correct. I don't think that 578 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: we are correct either. But it's reasonable right that because 579 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: it's better for Kenny dilly Ham that he gets to 580 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: go work now as opposed to a week later, it's 581 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: better for for Arizona State, so especially with the signing 582 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: date coming up in three weeks, so so that that's 583 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: the tinfoil conspiracy. I don't think that he consciously was like, 584 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna run something. That's no. I think that he 585 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: was not at optimal decision making because he's a man 586 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: divided on something like like like I don't think that 587 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: he was deliberately like, oh I want to lose or so. 588 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: I think that when you're when your mind is on 589 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: something else and not singularly focused, that it can impact 590 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: what you necessarily would have done in that situation. Can 591 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: I give you a theory on what his mind might 592 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: have been on and not just Arizona State keeping Bonix healthy, 593 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: because that seemed to play a much bigger factor in 594 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: some of the choices that Organ has made as an 595 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: offense over the last couple of weeks than than the 596 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: fact that his mind has been on the play. I 597 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: just thought that you should tell you action. He could, 598 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: he could clearly play action. But when did herhim get fired? 599 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: September eight? Kenny dillings Ham's mind has been on a 600 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: s U since September. You are you are right? You 601 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: are right. That's a good point. So bow Knicks, you 602 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: can't use him the way that you've been using him 603 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: all year, but you can play action and just do 604 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: it like like he was good enough to do that. Yeah. 605 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: So I've heard, I've listened to, I've taken in every 606 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: possible national show that there is that brought up going 607 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: for it on your on your own twenty nine. I 608 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: have no problem. And I've heard a lot of people 609 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: say that, and one of the reasons that they give 610 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: is we couldn't get a stop, and here was the 611 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: play called bow Knicks made the wrong decision. If he 612 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: unders the ball off, it's a it's a easy first down, right, 613 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: And I get that, But I will say this, Oregon 614 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: did get a stop and then they fumbled upon So 615 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: I just I don't want to hear the Oregon couldn't 616 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: get a stop because they did. They literally did get 617 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: a stop and then they fumbled the punt. No no, no, 618 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: we didn't pune with a punt. No no, no no, no 619 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: on the one no no, no, no, no no, no, no 620 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: no no. We we were punting, Oregon was punting and 621 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: the punter dropped the ball. Didn't Oregon also lose a 622 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: punt on the punt return? No? No. There were two 623 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: major special teams issues for Oregon. They they they had 624 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: a punt blocked early in the game. Never mind, never mind, Yeah, 625 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: it was then block. Yeah, they got a punt blocked 626 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: early in the game. But then go Brandon throw it 627 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: through it right back the next play, So I'm off 628 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: my rocket and then I'm confused. But what I what 629 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: I will say is like I I just don't like 630 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: that excuse of like, oh, we can't stop them. No no, no, no, 631 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: I see see, you didn't make it. You didn't make 632 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: the excuse. But I've heard a lot of people say, well, 633 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: that's why you'd go for it on your own, on 634 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: your own winning by the way, while leading, I have 635 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: no do you understand I have no. There is not 636 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: a a part of my mind that question because you're 637 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: you're an ideologue on Fortune Favors the Bowl. That just 638 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: didn't work out your way this time. And and and 639 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: when you watch the play, if bow Knicks hands the ball, 640 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: what the what bow Knicks did is he anticipated what 641 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,479 Speaker 1: the read was going to be instead of making the read. 642 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying. Well, now I watched 643 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: him run towards three defenders, so so that's what I'm saying. 644 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: He anticipated. But but uh, but the but Oregon State 645 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: was like, we saw this movie last week. We're not 646 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: going for that. So if if he hands the ball 647 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 1: off first down, but he was thinking about what happened 648 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: against Washington when if ty Thompson keeps the ball, it's 649 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: a far down. So he anticipated instead of making the read. 650 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: And bow Nix, who has been fabulous all year, he 651 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: made a bad decision. And that's okay. It happens. So 652 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that. I I do not. And when 653 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: when I talked to Dan Landing, I'm going to tell him, 654 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: do not switch up what you're doing, bro. What you're 655 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: doing is the right thing. Do not question those moves 656 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: you are You did this boldness that you are displaying 657 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: it is absolutely fabulous. And you've actually seen way more 658 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: coaches doing it too. When it's like fourth and inches 659 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: and they have not been able to stop you at 660 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: all running the football. Hey, move along, move along, or 661 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: but that that's also a thing. They normally would have 662 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: quarterback sneaked in that situation, but boat wasn't wasn't healthy. 663 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 664 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 665 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 666 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. So there's been 667 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: chaos in the Pac twelve throughout the last few few weeks. Um. Yeah, 668 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: it's just been absolute craziness, so much so that that 669 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: there was a chance that Washington, Oregon and Utah, and 670 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: it looked like two weeks ago it was clear that 671 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: Oregon was gonna make the to win the well yeah, 672 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: to be the even the one seed if you will. 673 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: In the Pack twelve, Bo Nicks hurts his hurts his ankle. 674 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: They lose to Washington, beat Utah, lose the Oregon State 675 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: and now they're sitting at home for the Pack twelve 676 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: championship over one over one injury really yeah, and now 677 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve is upside down. You have Utah versus 678 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: usc usc P. Weill felt like they got jobbed in 679 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: the first game that they lost by one in Salt 680 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: Lake City. So for the PAC twelve championship, can you 681 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: be no, they have an argument. They have an argument. 682 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't they should have won that game 683 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: by more. But they do have an argument. I don't 684 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: think that they're okay, they're they're complaining about pass interference 685 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: called I mean, and a bunch of other stuff. But 686 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: these are PAC twelve officials. I mean, it's just so 687 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: can they beat USC again? Yes? This is such a 688 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: weird situation because the best thing for everybody involved is 689 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: USC to beat Utah. Because I don't I don't think so. 690 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm actively rooting on you because you're to your two 691 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: least favorite teams will benefit the most, but we'll all benefit. 692 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: Washington will go to a Rose Bowl if USC wins. No, 693 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: yes they will. If USC wins, Washington gets the Rose Bowl. Well, 694 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: it tip I don't know because that because because they 695 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: typically give it to the loser of the Pack twelve championship. 696 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: But in this case, it will be the highest ranked 697 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: team and that's gonna be Washington because they don't play 698 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: and that would give you, like their third or fourth 699 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: loss the year. Or whatever. So so Washington would go 700 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl and USC would go to college 701 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: football playoffs. We all benefit financially from that, but you 702 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: personally would have to watch USC in the College Football 703 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: Playoff and Washington in the Rose Bowl. Oh, I wouldn't. Honestly, 704 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: the Washington Rose Bowl thing wouldn't bother me quite as much, 705 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: to be to be perfectly honest with you, it would 706 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: be more so if USC wasn't leaving the Pack twelve 707 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: and their fans weren't being so obnoxious about it, like 708 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: we're leaving the peons. We are we are, we are 709 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: better than them, you know. If they weren't being like that, 710 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 1: I would not care. But but because they got Lincoln 711 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: Riley and they have turned into this elitist we're better 712 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: than them at attitude, that's been my I guess disdain 713 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: if you will, for this season. Like I have no 714 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: problem with like I have no problem with their coaches, 715 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: no problem with you know, you know, I'm friends with 716 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: Lenard and Reggie, no problem with with USC kind of 717 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: in general. But it's been kind of how obnoxious that 718 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: the fans have been and for them to cash in 719 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: like like that and then say so we're cash in 720 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: and now we're leaving by we got it, we gotta 721 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: Himan and ay and the College Football Playoff told you 722 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: and what honestly like, most teams aren't gonna miss USC. 723 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: To be honest, it is what it is. Um I 724 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: enjoy having them as part of the fact. Well, if 725 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: they don't want to be here, bye, it's pretty simple 726 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: to me. I I can't tell what I'm more annoyed by, though, 727 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: USC fans pretending they didn't buy this, which you're allowed 728 00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: to so yeah cool, or or or Utah fans who 729 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: are like going around saying build not but nobody's given 730 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: us any respect. First of all, shut up us, literally, 731 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: both of you. Shut up. Please please shut up Utah Utah. 732 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: I want to root for you, and I want to 733 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: What I want to say is the same thing I 734 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: said before the season, which is USC is leaving the 735 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: conference because they're ducking Utah. Everybody's afraid of Utah. Utah's 736 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: a new bully on the blood. I'm trying to give 737 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: you respect, but you're walking around here acting like an underdog. 738 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: You are not. You underperformed this year. You back George 739 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: your way into the PAC twelve championship and you absolutely 740 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: could run over this defense. In fact, in fact, I 741 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: consider Utah the favorite US favorite in this game. USC 742 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: is favorite in this game by two and a half 743 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 1: point two and a half point, right, which is nothing. 744 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: That's just the betters. That's just the betters who don't 745 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: know anything about the Pack twelve champion from last year, 746 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 1: which returned the majority of their roster. He's playing in THEA. 747 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,479 Speaker 1: And here's the thing about Utah, this isn't the little 748 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: has very good coaches, and what went wrong against USC 749 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: last time, it won't go wrong on the same level again. 750 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: I I have a hard time believing that USC is 751 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: gonna be able to score forty two points against this 752 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: team again. I think the probably one, like like thirty 753 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: one is probably thirty one is probably the answer here. 754 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: My memory from the first time around is Kyle Wittingham 755 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: looking like he wanted to never coach another football game. 756 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: Every time they get two or three rushers through and 757 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: not even put a finger on Caleb Williams. Yeah, he 758 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 1: was like he looked like she was a child. Yes, 759 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams head and be like and and you know, like, um, 760 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: like who is the X Men character that can just 761 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: vanish and then yes, that's he's that dude. He's the 762 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 1: one you made fun of me for for same was 763 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 1: my favorite X Man because he said, I I only 764 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: like peripheral characters. You are you are the French guy. Okay, 765 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: well maybe that's why I'm upset about the Pactol Championship 766 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: and the two best teams. But I expect you taught 767 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: to win this game. It's really there's no die this 768 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: time around. It's really Cayleb Williams versus what Morgan Scalley 769 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: is able to put together. That's what it comes down to. 770 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,919 Speaker 1: If Morgan Scalley can figure out, if Morgan Scalley can 771 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: figure out how to slow down Kayley Williams, they might 772 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: keep him. I'm gonna tell you what they're going to do. 773 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: Instead of rushing and twisting and all that stuff on 774 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: pass downs, They're gonna take the lineman and just bull 775 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: will rush back. Because now Caleb Williams, who escape the pocket, 776 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: now has to go backwards as opposed to being able 777 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: to go through the pocket and now escaped towards the 778 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: line of primage. So what do you do? Do you do? 779 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: You do? You take your ends and do you rush 780 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: them wide and have them spy. No no, no, what 781 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: do you do is you bull rush? But everybody bull 782 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: bullrushes because we we did this when I was intended, 783 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: when I was in Jacksonville against Vince Young when he 784 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: was in Tennessee. And they do it against Hurts, they 785 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,479 Speaker 1: do it against all the quarterbacks who can actually move. 786 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: They squeeze the pocket because Caleb Williams his favorite thing 787 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: is to extend plays when when it's not there immediately, 788 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: he's just extending the play. So now he is uncomfortable 789 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: when the pocket continues to squeeze and there's no way out. 790 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: So now his eyes have to go down to figure 791 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: away out. And if there's no way out or limited 792 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 1: ways out, now you're gonna end up with more of 793 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: those sacks because they're not trying to tackle him in 794 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: open space as opposed to being able to tackle him 795 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: in the phone book. Watch watch it. Watch watch that 796 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: coaching nugget. Do you like Utah on this game? No? No, okay, 797 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: what happens if Utah does win? Does you? So? Utah 798 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: would go to the Rose Bowl and usc would be 799 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: what they would end up in the No no, no no, no, no, 800 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: they would get a New Year's six Bowl, and then 801 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: oh and then yeah, and then you know Oregon, Oregon 802 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 1: State and so oh damn, Oreg's gonna end up in 803 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: like the Las Vegas Bowler somewhere to l a bowl 804 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: now holds bowl. Holy damn. Um yeah, bro, that's crazy. 805 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: So so I guess let's get to these let's get 806 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: to these coaching changes real quick, because we're gonna do 807 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna do a team by teams season breakdown and 808 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 1: some awards stuff next week. I'm sorry we missed last week, 809 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: but I don't know if you guys knew this. It 810 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,280 Speaker 1: was Thanksgiving, Um, so we were hanging out with the families. 811 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: But but the why, I it's not my fault that 812 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: you had to put it in a hundred twenty hours 813 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: of cooking Thanksgiving us Georgia's Super Bowl. Yes it is, 814 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: Yes it is. And there's a couple of people to 815 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: ask me for turkeys for next year. So that so 816 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: that like the ultimate side business. No, No, I just 817 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: it just feels like a compliment. Yeah, for sure. And 818 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: so but I'm actually considering doing it, like on a 819 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: on a serious note, is putting my is like putting 820 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,959 Speaker 1: my Brian together and and just selling, selling the brine 821 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: to folks. Oh there you go. All right, let's get 822 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: into this. Let's get into the coaching stuff. And I 823 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: don't look Stanford. I'm looking right in the game. I 824 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 1: don't care what you call your head coaching position. He's 825 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: just the head coach. It is the it is the 826 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley and I'm sorry, it's the it's the David 827 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: clark uh position of football manager, head coached by brought 828 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: to you by David Shaw. We we've talked so much 829 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 1: about David Chawn this. He said that Thanksgiving came around, 830 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 1: he talked to his wife, He thought about it. He 831 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: said it was time. He said that he didn't spend 832 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: all years thinking about how this was going to be 833 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: his last year. I don't care whether you believe him 834 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: or not. He's just not the head coach anymore. My 835 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: question for you, George is is he the most successful 836 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: Pack twelth coach of all time? Do you consider him 837 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: to be because he had Him and Whittingham are really 838 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: the only ones that have the tenure of the full 839 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: run of coach in the Pack twelve. Okay, yeah, not 840 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: not Pac ten, that twelve, even with the last four 841 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: down years, would you consider him to be the most 842 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: successful packed twelve fatal expanded in twenty eleven. Right, yes, 843 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 1: I think it might be him. I can't see like 844 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: like the last four years make it not be able 845 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 1: to be him though, and then with winning him's first, 846 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: I would give it to winning him only because only 847 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: because he's his He started out in the mountain West 848 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: and he's going this way, Utah is going this way. 849 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 1: Stanford went this way, like when when he got the job, 850 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: they were up here, then they would they've been on 851 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: a they were like this and then it was like, 852 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: I mean they did a combat landing to like to 853 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 1: So I might give it to him. I will say 854 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: he certainly went out his way. You think that they're 855 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: gonna pay him the rest of that money because he 856 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: said that he is stepping down, but that don't mean 857 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: you're resigning. Why would they pay him He doesn't work 858 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: there anymore. And it was no no no no no 859 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: no no. There there are behind the scenes workings and 860 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: there is the act. Because they love David Shaw. He's 861 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: a family like, he's a Stanford family, so they could 862 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: have done him the honor of being of being like 863 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: because because remember they are a private university, so they 864 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: do not have to disclose these terms. So because they 865 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: may have been firing him, but are you are you 866 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: suggesting that they they're letting him go out on his 867 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: own terms and saying, what, we'll settle up with you 868 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: on the back end. No, I'm saying that they were 869 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: firing him, but they are allowing him publicly to just 870 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: because he's one of their own and everything that he's right. 871 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: So what we're saying the same thing is basically like, hey, look, 872 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: you go out there and resign, we won't fire you, 873 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: and you'll get to keep some of this money. Yeah, 874 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: so you're saying that that that could have taken place 875 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: behind closed doors. That is where do they go next? 876 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: Where they go next? There is good news for them 877 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: is that they're athletic. Director has now said, yes, we 878 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: will dabble in the portal a little bit, so so 879 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: he at least understands that they're going to have to 880 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: keep some fifth year seniors and be able to I mean, 881 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 1: it's gonna be so messed up, like the top eight 882 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 1: players from the IVY League every year just getting on 883 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 1: a plane flight to the West coast. That's see a 884 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: fair change for them. Damn, that's a cult, yes, because 885 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 1: because now you're like they were at the Ivy League school. 886 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: Come on over, guy from Dartmouth, Come on over, guy 887 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 1: from penn Come over your Harvard and yell guys, come 888 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: on over. Thinking about like like a few years ago 889 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: when uh um, when one of the best dbs in 890 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: the whole country was at Dartmouth, Isaiah Swan, Like seeing 891 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: him finish at Stanford would have been wild but maybe 892 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: maybe maybe, But who who do you think they would 893 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: who would be a good fit as a head coach 894 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: at Stanford because it only had really two coaches. Our 895 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 1: man floated a name out there, and I don't hate it. 896 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: I do not hate Chip Kelly because Chip Kelly is 897 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: academics and personal growth, like he matches the Stanford brand. 898 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: He's he's not a Stanford guy, but he does. But 899 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 1: he is on brand and they can pay him way 900 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 1: more if you put his recruiting requirements up with St. 901 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: Stanford's admission, they're gonna have like a recruiting class of 902 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: eight kids every single year. No, no, we used to 903 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: six with a four point five g p A and 904 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 1: a thirty s a T. Who sleeps nine hours a night, 905 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: and he's not allergic to shellfish. That's funny. I mean, 906 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 1: if anybody can recruit there is chip. But But on 907 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: a serious note, right, I think Chris Peterson would be 908 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: willing to do it because he's principled enough and they 909 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: can afford him. Yeah, but but I don't know if 910 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: he wants to, like, like he won't have to get 911 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: his hands messy in college football, which is I think, 912 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 1: what kind of hell to push him away too. But 913 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 1: he might just be be happy on television as well. 914 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 1: So those two names are good enough for me to 915 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 1: move on to Colorado. They've offered the job to Dion. 916 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: That scares the hell out of me, But at the 917 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: same time, I think it'd be fantastic forge if he 918 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: takes his job. I know who is going to be 919 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: his OC. I know who's going to be his o C. 920 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: If he takes this job. I think it's interesting that 921 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: it's taking so long because it leads me to believe 922 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: that I was right that he wants to stay in 923 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: the Swack, or he could have been using this as 924 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: leverage to like negotiate things with the Swack and to 925 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: get stuff in place. Just in general, whether it's at 926 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: just the state and in the conference as a as 927 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: a whole, and be like, look, I did all these 928 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: great things for the Swack. I will do more College 929 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: Game Day in week nine. The is rateed one in 930 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: thirteen years with Deon Sanders on it. So why on 931 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: earth do would you, if you're the Swack want him 932 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: to leave? So if you're them or want them to 933 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm making all sorts of I am doing everything as 934 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: a conference now. If I'm Grambling State and if I'm Southern, 935 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: I want Dion to stay because a rising tide lifts 936 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: all ships. Oh. If I'm Eddie Robinson Jr. I'm I'm 937 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: making nice with Dion and kissing the ring. I don't 938 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: care what it takes. How how how can we fix 939 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: this Dion? But the problem is the longer that Dion waits, 940 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: the more of these jobs that come open. When I 941 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: saw Cincinnati come open, I was like, oh, beause to me, 942 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: that's like ready made for you know he will have 943 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: when whenever he leaves the Swack, it will I believe 944 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: it will be for a destination job. So you don't 945 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: think he's gonna go to Colorado, which means, are you 946 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: finally gonna get behind my uh my Illinois defense when 947 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm guessing that's their backup plan is Illinois defensive 948 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: coordinator who is the Colorado alum. Okay, okay, okay. Fox 949 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 950 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 951 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 952 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. What percent a chance would 953 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: you give Dion to the back twelve. That's high, that's high. Yeah. 954 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a legitimate. I mean because he's I 955 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: know for a fact he's called specific coaches about office 956 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: coordinator in defensive coordinator, specific coaches, So that means that 957 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: there is that it's real. But I do think that 958 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: that that it's kind of Lane kiffinish, which is Lane 959 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: wanted that Auburn job. He wanted the Auburn. If the 960 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: reporter had not leaked it, he was gonna leave. I 961 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: believe that. I don't think we're gonna get Dion. I 962 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: think it would be great, especially for our TV negotiations. 963 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: I think it'd be good for the Pack twelve overall. 964 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to recruit against him. But 965 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: let me just be the first to say congratulations to 966 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Colorado head coach Ryan Walters. Okay, well that's that's if 967 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Deon calls. Oh, that's gonna be one of my first 968 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: calls from my kid though. I tell I tell you 969 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: that much for sure, and even more than a football 970 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: thing as a character thing, like, Bro, you can go back. 971 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm so um Arizona State hired Kenny dilling Ham. He 972 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: is a young guy. How how does Kenny Okay, so 973 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: that's a very young head coach. I mean, well like 974 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley ish. Yeah, first first coach, first head coach 975 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: to ever be born in the nineteen nineties. Okay, So 976 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: the question though, is this, Yeah, can he because I 977 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: do think that he's a really good offensive coordinator. But 978 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the challenge at like he feels like a guy that 979 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: you would have wanted to take over a that young, 980 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: take over a program that was not in shambles, and 981 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: do you know, I mean like, I don't think that 982 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: you would have, so I wonder I think Canty build it. 983 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: That's a great question because between the players they have committed, 984 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna blow your mind, George, because you know 985 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 1: how many players it takes to fuel the football team. 986 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Between the incoming freshman that they current have currently a 987 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: verbal pledges from, and the players that are going to 988 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 1: just be uh a red shirt freshman and or true 989 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: sophomore next year. So over the course of two classes 990 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 1: at this point in time, is we're recording this fourteen 991 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: players across two classes one four Wait what incoming freshman 992 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: and current red shirt freshman and or true sophomores? Oh 993 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: my god, exactly so so so the roster is in 994 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 1: complete shambles. So sure, that's why I wonder if a 995 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: person who hasn't rebuilt something before as a head coach, 996 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 1: because like you look at what Josh Hypel did at 997 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: UCF right, u c F was in great shape. When 998 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: when Scott Frost left he gets the job, they're they're 999 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 1: still doing good. So he wasn't able to learn and manage, 1000 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like like like there was 1001 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 1: nothing he had to fix. And I think that for 1002 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: a young that it is a risky hire considering the 1003 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: circumstances at a s U potential sanctions coming down, and 1004 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I think that that's gonna make it much tougher for 1005 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 1: a young guy who is who has to navigate all 1006 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: of that. Conversely, their options weren't all that great because 1007 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,919 Speaker 1: of those things. So going with a young guy who's 1008 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: familiar with the state might be the wise move and 1009 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: jill him and I don't think that he would leave 1010 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 1: like like I don't. I think he feels like if 1011 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: he can get it going at Arizona State, even the 1012 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 1: way that Whittingham is at Utah. Right. I think that 1013 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: if you offer him the Alabama job, he doesn't take it, 1014 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: or do you or do you think you would take 1015 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: that job ten years from now or five cars seven 1016 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: years from now? Cartoon money is hard to turn down. 1017 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: But I will say this, he's filling out his staff 1018 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 1: with people who have Arizona ties. I wouldn't be shocked 1019 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: if Brian Ward, the Washington State defensive coordinator who has 1020 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: family in Arizona, ends up being their defensive coordinator. Pick 1021 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if your guy Scott Frost ends 1022 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 1: up being the offensive cordina because he lives in Scottsdale. 1023 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Charlie Regel left. Arlie Regal left his head coaching position 1024 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 1: at Idaho State to come be with his family and 1025 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 1: aging parents in Arizona. Vince Amy, who played on the 1026 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl team and used to be the the defensive 1027 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: line coach of of University of Arizona has been brought 1028 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: back to be the defensive line coach. So there's all 1029 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: these guys with valley connections. They're really trying to make 1030 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 1: it a hometown thing. Kenny Dillingham from the state, born 1031 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: in the state of Arizona, like, there aren't many people 1032 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 1: like this, but he's a multigeneration Arizona like, so he's 1033 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: what he's trying to do is get a bunch of 1034 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: people that have buy in and truly love the valley. 1035 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 1: They've not had that before. They've had people who love 1036 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: being transplants to the valley because that's what the valley is. 1037 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: It's a great place for transplants. And then they had 1038 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Herm whatever that was. But like, they have not had 1039 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: people who are who have they Arizona grew really quickly 1040 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: in the eighties and the nineties and the two thousands. 1041 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 1: The kids of that era who grew up in Arizona 1042 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,040 Speaker 1: are finally old enough to be in power position, and 1043 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: that's the people they have in charge there. If this 1044 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 1: doesn't work, nothing will. If they go too heavy, If 1045 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: they go too heavy on the staffing locally and they're 1046 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 1: not able to get kids out of California and the 1047 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: portal and everything like that, then that's gonna be a 1048 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 1: huge problem. But no matter I don't they're gonna have 1049 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 1: huge problems, no matter what, because the roster is in 1050 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 1: and again this isn't even the guys that are juniors 1051 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: and seeing I'm talking about the The incoming roster is tiny, 1052 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: and the sanctions are coming, and I think the contract 1053 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: language is such that, like, once we know what the 1054 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 1: sanctions are, and there's rumors George that it's two hundred 1055 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: violations deep, two hundred like it. We did, and I 1056 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: don't feel good about it, but we did, and so 1057 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: what comes next? I believe the contract language is pretty 1058 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 1: specific and that like when it comes out, if we 1059 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: got a three year, if if if we get hit 1060 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: with like three year bull band or something insane, those 1061 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: three years we're not even gonna like count them towards. 1062 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna get your money. That's the way hype Hypel's 1063 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: is and Tennessee it actually adds on when when when 1064 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Nis comes down, it adds time onto his contract. Yeah, 1065 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 1: and I hope Arizona State fans recognized that it's not 1066 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: gonna be like Washington with the quick bounce back, and 1067 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: they could have a good year next year, but like 1068 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 1: MS had a full roster of players, and yes, had 1069 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: a whole roster of players, and and then then they 1070 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: added a couple of important pieces. And you can't buy 1071 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: your way back. You can't buy your So look a 1072 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: SU is doing what Utah and Oregon State do. They're 1073 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: fully staffed with people who are who are all about 1074 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the brand. Right they went to the school. They that 1075 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 1: ship took time. There a long time for Oregon State. 1076 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 1: They're in the infancy of being good. Yeah, the infancy 1077 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: of being good. So I hope Arizona State fans understand 1078 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 1: they could get and this is exactly what we were 1079 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 1: talking about about the transfer portal and the n I 1080 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: l Oregon State as successful as they were this year. Yeah. 1081 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 1: If I am Jonathan Smith, I'm telling my quarterbacks to 1082 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: kick rocks except for a throck Morton who's a freshman. 1083 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 1: And then Aidan childs if I can hold on to 1084 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 1: him to say to to signing because the kid from Downey, 1085 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: I promise you, this kid from Downey who is committed 1086 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: to Oregon State. He has been flying up the recruiting 1087 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 1: rankings for months now, and he is going to be 1088 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 1: He is getting action from so many schools right right now. 1089 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: If you can hold on to him, you you tell 1090 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 1: everybody to kick Rock, You tell j you tell uh 1091 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 1: Go Branson, you tell um who was the chance Nolan 1092 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: Hollad a player when you see him in the streets. 1093 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 1: But I keep Rock Morton just because he's young and 1094 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know fully about him. I'm keeping I'm holding 1095 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 1: on to Aidan Childs and then I am going in 1096 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 1: the portal and I am getting one of these quarterbacks. 1097 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I am getting my Michael Pinics. I'm getting somebody who 1098 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,640 Speaker 1: can competently pass. Like if you have shown that you 1099 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 1: can competently pass the football, you are coming here because 1100 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: you was going to get raided because Martinez, he may 1101 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,440 Speaker 1: not be there next year because he's gonna have bigger options. 1102 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: There are some of their linemen maybe gone, like its 1103 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 1: their corners. I wouldn't be shocked if Arizona State didn't 1104 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: try to poach their a line coach like they're they're 1105 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 1: they're in. This is when you start to have success, 1106 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 1: you start to lose some of the things that made 1107 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,720 Speaker 1: you successful. Then you've got to be able to replenish. 1108 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 1: And if you are a quarterback out there, please consider 1109 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,200 Speaker 1: Oregon State because last year there's a lot of really 1110 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: good quote my god, what's his name from a pitch 1111 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: should have been there, Jaden Davis, No, Janiel West Virginia. Yeah, 1112 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 1: they should have went to state. This year, Hudson Carr 1113 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:20,879 Speaker 1: leaves Texas, but consider corvallis my friend, mm hmm, somebody 1114 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: something like I'm telling you and and it's not. It's 1115 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: not Jonathan Smith. I promise you that if he gets 1116 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: a quarterback that has a high ceiling, you're gonna see 1117 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 1: that ceiling that I believe that. I think we're starting 1118 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: to get to the point where people think that maybe 1119 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 1: that's not the case. It is the case. He has 1120 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: Sean Sean Manyel No no, no, no, no no no no, 1121 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:44,639 Speaker 1: San Sean Maniel was after him. Um. Yeah, So as 1122 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 1: soon as he gets a quarterback, he will be fine. 1123 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 1: He will be fine. He's been dealt with. Um. But 1124 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: but the question is he needs to get that quarterback 1125 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: as soon as the portal opens up, because that is 1126 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: going to be a a key cog in keeping this 1127 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: whole thing together. Because I know this is for uh, 1128 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 1: for a fact, as well. It may have diminished just 1129 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,759 Speaker 1: a tabbit with that loss to Oregon State, but Oregon 1130 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 1: is going to be very active in the portal, like 1131 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 1: on incoming guys. Yeah, and you're gonna see a couple 1132 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,799 Speaker 1: of guys exit. You you you already have by Byron Cardwell, 1133 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: who's a good back. He's gonna be somewhere. So but 1134 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 1: he already knows where where he's going. Um there are 1135 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: I expect the Pack twelve to be the most active 1136 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: conference because with Dicker going into year four, full year 1137 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 1: two at at Washington State, I'm sure he's got his 1138 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 1: eyeb on a bunch of guys. Arizona State has no choice. 1139 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 1: Arizona came out and said they were gonna do it. 1140 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: Arizona came out and said that they were gonna push 1141 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,599 Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes out. And yes, because because they're 1142 01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna be like, okay, look because Arizona, Arizona needs a okay, 1143 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:04,440 Speaker 1: So they have a competent solution at quarterback, right with 1144 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 1: with Delora is he great? No? Right? Because yeah, he spastic. 1145 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 1: But if they can get enough players on defense and 1146 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:21,680 Speaker 1: some offensive line help, they are a problem, a major problem. 1147 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,759 Speaker 1: Like that. I'm trying to take them from from oh 1148 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 1: five game winner to eight game winner. Yeah, and I'm 1149 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,600 Speaker 1: excited because in the next week, you're gonna see a 1150 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 1: bunch of people jump into the portal, which means that 1151 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 1: the next time that we get together, Cord, we're gonna 1152 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 1: know who the pactual champion is. We're gonna know the 1153 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Bowl invites, We're gonna do a team by team breakdown, 1154 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 1: and we should have some awards for you. Next week's 1155 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 1: show is going to be fantastic. I cannot wait. Yes, sir, 1156 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm George Rice to He's Ralph Ampson and this is 1157 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:50,640 Speaker 1: the pack twelve Apostles