1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Five from Manchester, New Hampshire. Is right now that we 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: bring this world together. We need a Democrat who's willing 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: to get out in fight we were gonna win. Is 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: to bring everybody to our side in this fight. This 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound on. If you don't think we can 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: get this done, well we can. How are we going 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: to stand up for the people at the United States together? 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Let's take practice country and leave the world again. Were 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: then our power to do it? Bloomberg Sound on with 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Kevin's a really live from the New Hampshire primary on 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin c Areli, Chief Washington correspondent from 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and Radio broadcasting live from Manchester, New Hampshire, 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: where we are less than well. Really, we're hours away 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: from the first votes being cast in the New Hampshire primary. 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Sanders surging ahead a former South Bend mayor 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Pete boudag Edge and the latest polls here out of 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: the Granite State. And President Trump just across the street 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: from down from the downtown DoubleTree hosting a massive MAGA rally, 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: will give you the latest analysis and punditry and that 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: budget that the President released earlier today as well. Adrian L. 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: Rods here. Fred Hackberg is here as well. He's out 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: with the new book, Trade is not a four letter word. 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Great book, Fred, Thank you, Thank you. Adrian. I saw 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: you on Morning Joe today before I went upstate to 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: see Senator Bernie Sanders at a campaign rally, and you 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: said something and I thought, I can't wait to ask 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: her about this on Bloomberg Radio. Which is it really 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: is about who comes in third tomorrow? Why? Because I 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: think that if we come out of the first four 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: states and go into Super Tuesday, or rather come out 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: of Super Tuesday, and it's down to let's say, Bernie 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: Sanders and Mike Bloomberg. Um, those are two totally different 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: types of candidates, and I think that a lot of 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Democratic primary voters are gonna be looking for that third person. 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: But the question is who is that person? Very well, 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: could be mayor Pete. He obviously had a strong room. 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: It's in Iowa. He's going to do very well. Um, 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: we believe in New Hampshire tonight. But his big problem 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: still continues to be that he can't build a very 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: diverse coalition, which I know Fred is going to talk 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: about it here in a second. But the bottom line 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: is who is going to be that third person? And 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: I think if you see Amy Klobucher uh getting the 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: top three tomorrow night, that's gonna be huge for her, 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: a huge advantage going into the next few states because 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: she's not from a neighboring state. New Hampshire voters tend 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: to like somebody who's from this region, from a neighboring state, 48 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: as in a state that like touches their borders um, 49 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: which is why you know, or close to their borders, 50 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: which is why Bernie Sanders um blew us out of 51 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: the water in sixteen. He should do very very well tonight. 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: It should be tomorrow night. It should be like a 53 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: resounding victory, not at two or three point victory. So 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: I say all that to say, who is going to 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: be that third person that has sort of in this 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: middle of the top tier pack right now going that's 57 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: going to be around after Super Tuesday. And that's why 58 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: I think tomorrow night's third place finished could very well 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: help identify who that person is. And if Bernie Sanders 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: gets a squeaker tomorrow night, because that could also happenses, 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: he could lose or just gets a squeaker. Well, that 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: is not good for his candidates. He certainly doesn't disqualify. 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: And I think, Fred, you make a good point, which 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: is the expectations here in the Granite State are that 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: Sanders wins big again with that Granite State. Yes, I 66 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: mean listen, he won by what points? And he was 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: within a whisk of beating Hillary in Iowa. So I 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: mean he is sort of the odds on favorite in 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: terms of having a showing in Iowa and New Hampshire 70 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: just four years ago. Correct. I was thinking about this 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: as we were driving up state, UH, and it literally 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: was picturesque. There was a frozen there were signs to 73 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: go ice fishing. It was picturesque. There was the frozen 74 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: rivers and lakes. I thought, am I in a snow globe? 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it was beauty beautiful. New Hampshire is such 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: a beautiful, gorgeous state. But I was thinking about this 77 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: as I heard also Nina Turner, who of course is 78 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: the state senator, UH, prominent African American surrogate for Senator 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Barnie Sanders. And as she was firing up the crowd 80 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: at at the university were Senator Sanders spoke and you 81 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: know I just when I looked at that crowd, I thought, 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: it is a mistake in the in the Washington Beltway, 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: a seller quarter media to think that moderate equates to 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: middle class? Am I wrong? Um? No, you're now You're 85 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: not right, because a lot of those middle class voters 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: who are voting, who voted for Senator Sanders in the 87 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: last election, and who quite frankly across the street from 88 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: us at the stadium that President Trump's going to speak 89 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: out later tonight, they would identify as middle class. And 90 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that Adrian and friend, 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: you both do so innfreendibly well as you understand that nuance. Yeah, absolutely, 92 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: there's certainly a nuance there. Um. I'm in fact, I 93 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: don't equate the two at all um, not not even close. 94 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I know a lot of people 95 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: who are not middle class who are moderate voters. You 96 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: know a lot of moderate voters who are not middle class. 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: So I don't equate the two at all um. But 98 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting that going back to what 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: Fred said earlier, this is a state that Bernie Sanders 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: should not win by one point or two points. It 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: should be a six, seven, eight point win. I mean, 102 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: you could even argue it should be a double digit win. UM. Again, 103 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: if he wins, that win is a win, right Biden though, 104 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: if he Adrian, if he he was on where was it? 105 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: He was on one of the networks earlier today saying 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: that he could still continue onward if he gets fourth placed. 107 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: But I I do, but I think it's a very 108 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: very very increasingly narrow path to um to to being 109 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: able to somehow become the nominee. I think he would 110 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: have to do very well in Nevada Um. He would 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: have to place in the top two in Nevada UM, 112 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: and he would have to somehow assure his donors. I mean, 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: we don't know what his cash on hand is right now, 114 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: but we know that it's it's how do you make 115 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: the electability argument that his real case is I'm the 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: one guy who can beat Trump and you can't, and 117 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: you lose three in a row, correct, exactly. That's why, 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: that's why he's got to try to show to demonstrate 119 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: that my advantage here is Super Tuesday. But that's still 120 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: a long way. It's a long way off, and that's 121 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: four losses in a row. That's just that's why I'm 122 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: saying he would have to somehow convince his donor base 123 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: and his voters, his supporters that he can do that, 124 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: and so far I've not seen that from coming from. 125 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: How does Bloomberg do that if he hasn't even been 126 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: on the stage and Iowa hasn't been. Because Bloomberg laid 127 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: out expectations early on, he made it very clear, I'm 128 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: not playing the first four states. I'm only focusing on 129 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: Super Tuesday and beyond. That's what he's done, so he 130 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: kind of gets a free pass from all of this. Now, 131 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: of course, there is risk involved. It is strategy, but 132 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: they knew that going into it. Um They you know, 133 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: have a very well regarded analytics team that i think 134 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: allowed the demonstrator. They can make that they can make 135 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: the case viably for him to skip the first four, 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: but it would have to be all the cars would 137 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: have to align. Now, if you're Mike Bloomberg, you've got 138 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: to hope and pray that there's not a clear frontrunner 139 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: that comes out of the first four stage, right, That's 140 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: what you have to hope for. And the meat, the 141 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: attention that look that Peach got. Peach had a huge 142 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: bump in coming into New Hampshire already, so all of 143 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: the news, the poll that came out last night and 144 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: again right now, it's all about ground game, right. Sure, 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: you've got to convince people, but and there's still some 146 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: undecided voters out there, a lot of them, frankly, which 147 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: is kind of crazy to me. But you've got to 148 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: convince your people to get out. And Mayor Pete has 149 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: obviously this is Fred knows as better than me. But 150 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: he's got such a strong, very tactically smart team. Michael 151 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Halley um allocated all the resources sources in Iowa oversaw 152 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: strategy in Iowa. He's doing the same thing here in 153 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. I worked with him in There's frankly no 154 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: better strategist when it comes to figuring out where to 155 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: play effectively in certain parts of the state in early states, 156 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Michael Holley knows how to do it. Take us behind 157 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: the scenes, Fred Hackburg from Buddha Judges Political Orbit, you, 158 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: of course a prominent backer of the Buddha Judge campaign. 159 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: Take us behind the scenes to Adrian's point about the 160 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: ground game in the minute or so we have left 161 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: right now, Well, I mean I actually went door to 162 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: door the last two days just to sort of see 163 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: what it was like and actually talked to real voters 164 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: in their living rooms or for delicious cranberry bread and 165 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: water and tea at different stocks. Apricots, no apricots, Awfards 166 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: snacking on apricots. In the show, I said, where's the childer. 167 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: We're in New Hampshire. Go ahead, Fred, and a lot 168 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: of people it was still between sort of Bernie and 169 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: Pete and there was some obviously clob I heard. I 170 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: did not hear a lot of Biden talk I heard, 171 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: but I think people, particularly after what happened in Iowa, 172 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: the need for some clarity coming out of this stage. 173 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're gonna talk much more about 174 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: the dynamics of this race. And just as a disclaimer, 175 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: Michael Bloomberg is the founder of majority owner of Bloomberg LP, 176 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: the parent company of Bloomberg News. Download the Bloomberg Sound 177 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: on podcast on Apple iTunes, of Bloomberg dot com, or 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find 179 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: us on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. 180 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sirelli. Fred Aperg's like five bags of apricots 181 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: one one. You're listening to Bloomberg Calories the sound on 182 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: with Kevin's Really Live from the New Hampshire primary on 183 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Here we are in Manchester, New Hampshire, one 184 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: day before the first primary in the most consequential election 185 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: in the modern history of America or maybe in the 186 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: history of America. Bernie Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont 187 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: who caucuses with the Democrats, speaking earlier today in Manchester, 188 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Fred Hackberg's here, Adrian L. Roderick Davis just 189 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: walked in, and you're not feeling to burn, Rick, I 190 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: got no burn in me? Why? Uh? You know, Look, 191 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: the guy just got his kicked in Iowa. Rick Davis 192 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: dropping bombs, getting me in trouble way. I thought this 193 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: was cable. Yeah, listen, Anthony, if you're listening, I did 194 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: not tell him to say that. Go ahead. Christine Barratt 195 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: is up in arm She's thinking, what's going on? So 196 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: the guy has been campaigning in Iowa literally almost the 197 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: last ten years, right before he gets tied or slightly 198 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: beat by Hillary Clinton and pitches a fit. And now 199 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: he shows up the King of Iowa and and he 200 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: gets he gets beat by a mayor from you know, 201 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: South ben Indiana. I mean, like you even heard of 202 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: this guy, all right, so you're not feeling that. And 203 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: then but do you think so even if he wins tomorrow, 204 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: if he doesn't win big, you're saying not to loss. 205 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: That's what I'm hearing. I think he went into the 206 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: week with a loss. I think it hasn't stopped his momentum. 207 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's got some some mo in New Hampshire, 208 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: no question about it. But like you think about this 209 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: in the context of if if Pete Buddhadich can beat 210 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: him in Iowa, chances he have to win a national election. 211 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: So like I think that at some point he gets 212 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: in a one on one race with somebody else and 213 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: they'll clean his clock. I think he maxes out at 214 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: You were the campaign manager to UH Senator John McCain's 215 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: presidential victorious twice in New Hampshire, and you have a history. 216 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: You have a history with the great state of New Hampshire, 217 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: beautiful state, gorgeous. Tell us about the independent streak that 218 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: runs through the live for your dice state. Well, first 219 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: of all, the one thing that you have here is 220 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: independent voters. I mean they aren't real live independent voters. 221 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: They vote Democrats sometimes, and they vote Republicans sometimes. Probably 222 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: the most fun I've ever had was stealing all of 223 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Bill Bradley's independent voters and two thousand until allowed John 224 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: McCain to win. And Bradley never forgave me, but John 225 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: loved me for the rest of my life at least 226 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Russa his and uh. And so they go both ways. 227 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean, any given day they'll be in a Republican 228 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: primary or Democratic primary, and they will have an impact 229 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: on this election tomorrow. You know, I was talking with 230 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: Carl Cameron. I bumped into him on the trail campaign Carl, 231 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: remember him, campaign Carl. He was in the back of 232 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: our bus and two thox news. Yeah. Now he's got 233 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: his own website. But I saw him at the Bernie 234 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: Sanders rally earlier today. Uh. Fred Hawkburger is a prominent 235 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: Buda judge backer, former chairman of the Export Import Bank, 236 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: and author of the new book Trade is a four 237 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: letter words. You're not it's not a four letter word, 238 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: but you've always you're gonna tell you you're at work? 239 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: Would you like chowder? Um? Uh? Fred, your title gemes 240 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: getting longer and longer anyway, But he was saying he 241 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: was really bullish on Buddha Judge and really said that 242 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: he felt that the New Hampshire just from his sense, 243 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: Spider's sense campaign Carls on the on the ground that 244 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Budda Judge had a lot of momentum. But here's the 245 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: thing that I find interesting. You and I were talking 246 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: about this a bit. Budda Judge has largely been able 247 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: to escape the debate of whether or not he's a 248 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: democratic socialist or a moderate in a way like Elizabeth 249 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: Warrens had to say she's a unifying candidate, Budda Judge 250 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: is just saying, Hey, I'm it's time to turn the 251 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: page on a new generation. Well, yes, And I was 252 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: just gonna add to what Rick said. By the way, 253 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I when I went to there were a lot of 254 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: people who are really still undecided. So I think these 255 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: polls are very fluid, that just too many people who 256 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: are undecided. Or when I would see a husband and wife, 257 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: one would talk, the other one would be quiet. So 258 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: I just think there's there's a lot of fluidity going 259 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: on in the next twenty four hours. And it's no 260 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: surprise that Donald Trump was across the street trying to 261 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: stomp on the entire so Adrian, and that's where I 262 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: want to come to you. In the break, we talked 263 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: about Paul Wellstones protege Amy colbachar someone here when I 264 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: when I saw her on the stump, I've covered it 265 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: for about a decade in Congress and she's she's you know, 266 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: Rick Davis might cringe at this, but she's one of 267 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: those senators who would get along with John McCain, who 268 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: would get stuff done and they and they were able, 269 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, to reach across the aisle and part of 270 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: the club as it is in the upper chamber. But 271 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: when I saw her and listen to her on this stump, 272 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: and she was saying, essentially, if you're a moderate, you 273 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: have a home with me. And she was talking about 274 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: her personal narrative, very different than people to judges personal narrative. 275 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: But she talked about, you know, or seeing her family 276 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: members go into a coal mine, and she talked about 277 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: her father overcoming alcoholism. I mean, it was it was 278 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: really really riveting to see her. And she's got an 279 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: amazing person personal story, and she had a very strong 280 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: showing in the debate on Friday. Yeah, she did. And 281 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: she also raised a ton of money out of that 282 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: strong showing. I think she's raised three million dollars, she says, 283 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: her campaign says since that debate, which is which is 284 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: great for her and will help sustain her campaign going forward. 285 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean, look that she's got a great narrative. People 286 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: are catching on, She's getting more and more support. This 287 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: new poll that came out shows her in third place, um, 288 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, by a substantial margin. Um. But her biggest challenge, 289 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: I think, frankly, is her campaign is now catching up too. 290 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, they've got to now catch up to where 291 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: she is in the polls. Right. Like, she's got a 292 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: strong campaign staff, but she has not had the been 293 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: able to financially make the investments that she needed to 294 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: make in some of these early states as I think 295 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: that's what we saw in Iowa, and I think perhaps 296 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in New Hampshire. UM. But she's 297 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: not been able to hire the top notch staff that 298 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: some other campaigns have. She's not been able to hire 299 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: her version of the Michael Halley here in New Hampshire. UM. 300 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that she doesn't have a strong campaign team, 301 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: but when you are running this close, especially neck and 302 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: neck with a couple other folks having a field operation 303 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: that knows how to strategically, you know, place resources to 304 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: get you over that hamp and to get you into 305 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe second place. It's really pivotal. What's her 306 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: play Nevada? Where where would she play well? Nevada? South Carolina? Well, 307 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's the question. But she's got a one 308 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: state campaign in that's New Hampshire right right. If she 309 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: doesn't come out in third place or tied for third, 310 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, as as you say, there's no lifeline to 311 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: South Carolina Nevada, she has no staff really there to 312 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: say she hasn't been spending money there. She hasn't got 313 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: it to spend. She's taken a three million she just 314 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: got and plowing it into this state to try and 315 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: get that number. If she does well, if she exceeds expectation, 316 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: she'll continue to raise money on the run and she'll 317 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: spend it on the run. Here about to all turn 318 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: our focus after Nevada to UH to South Carolina and 319 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: a state obviously where there's a lot of African American support. 320 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: The expectation is for Buda Judge to perform with no 321 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: African American supports or any African American support that he 322 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: would get would be strong, Biden saying that he's got 323 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: a firewall in South Carolina. But you know what else, 324 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about our veterans because you go to 325 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: South Carolina and there are there is a massive veteran 326 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: military UH forced down in South Carolina and the one 327 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: candidate archies per capita. I think you told me that 328 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: this morning right in the United States. And the one 329 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: thing we haven't heard people to judge talk a lot 330 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: about quickly is Fred is his military experience. I think 331 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: military and religion. He's a deeply religious person who this 332 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: is genuinely goes to church every week, not like Donald 333 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: Trump's folk religions. Okay, don't you can't. I'm Catholic. You 334 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: can't talk. Who are religion issue exactly? Coming up? Much 335 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: more dynamics of the race in Chowder Country, I won't 336 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: say at the Grand State Fred with the panel, I'm 337 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Cilli. You're listening to Bloomberg ninety nine one. This 338 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: is Sound On with Kevin Live from the New Hampshire 339 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: primary on Bloomberg Radio. The Senate may have been the 340 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: jury last week, but where are the jury now? And 341 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: the final verdict is up to us when it comes 342 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: to this president and an awful lot of those senators. 343 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: So let's make sure we use that power to bring 344 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: about the change we need to see. Mayor Pete earlier 345 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: today in Manchester, New Hampshire. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington 346 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: corresponded fro Booberg Television and Radio broadcasting live on Primary 347 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Eve from the Great State of New Hampshire. Here in 348 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: downtown Manchester. Vic Davis is here. He ran Senator John 349 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: McCain's presidential campaign. They won twice during his presidential runs 350 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. Fred Hackburg's here as well. He's a 351 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: Buddha jedge backer and author of the new book Trade 352 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: Is Not a four letter word. Former Chairman of the 353 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: Export Import Bank, Adrian L. Rod. You know her from 354 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: Morning Joe, you know her from Bloomberg Radio Sound On, 355 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: And of course the Democratic strategi insider who's been tweeting 356 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: all these memories telling us about what nightmare give us 357 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: TSD give us one from from back when Hillary, you're listening, 358 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: your listeners are probably gonna judge me here, which is 359 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: the judgment? Is what works out? Dinner for Paul Mary 360 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's communications director, who happens to be one of 361 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: my very close friends, and I were drinking at JJ's 362 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: tavern one night, the Bart, Yeah, exactly, and it was 363 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: really hard to get a drink. And this was, of 364 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: course on the heels of Hillary Clinton losing New Hampship 365 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: by twenty points. Bernie Sanders, Um, those were some dark 366 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: days leading into this moment, and we couldn't get a drink, 367 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: and so Jennifer ended up drinking the rest of Congresswoman 368 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: Linda Sanchez is Apple teeny um that she drank Monica Alvin. 369 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: I drank Monica Alvi Alvin's leftover draft beer. There you go, 370 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: there you go. You just walked into the to this this. Uh. 371 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm back in Arlington working at the 372 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: Java Shack because we have this set up here where 373 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: there's like a counter and it's four political all stars. 374 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: Genie Zano was having joined joining our fun. And you 375 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: mentioned something in the break, Genie about turnout here in 376 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: the state and how turnout is actually anticipated to go down. 377 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: What do you know, Well, we were hearing that the 378 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Secretary of State at first was predicting about five hundred thousand. 379 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: That's Democrats and Republicans. Then he sort of pulled back 380 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: a bit and it came down to about four twenty, 381 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: which again is both Democrats and Republicans. And I'm obsessed 382 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: with turnout in Iowa. I kept saying, you know, what's 383 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: the turnout and it turned out to be a lot 384 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: less than they predicted. And as we look across the 385 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: road and see Donald Trump's turnout over there, which people 386 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: camping out all night in the rain, I said, I 387 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't even sit out outside for five minutes from my 388 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: children in the rain. So who are these people? You know? 389 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: It's amazing and I think Democrats have to worry about that. 390 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: Adrian knows this, and I've talked about it with the 391 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: repeatedly offline as someone who is inbedded with the Trump 392 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: campaign last cycle. I mean to see that crowd across 393 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: the street. I remember him speaking in that stadium four 394 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: years ago, when the crowd stretched around own the block 395 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: and whatnot, the red make America Great Again hats. I mean, 396 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: the enthusiasm is still there with him, and quite frankly, 397 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: when I was at the Globatar rally, the Pete Rally, 398 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: the Warren Rally, the Bernie Sanders rally, you could add 399 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: up all of those rallies and it would match Rick Davis, 400 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: what's going on across the street. It would appear, I 401 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: don't know, does that say holds the record in that hall? 402 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: Yeah he does. I would beat out Elton John by attendees, 403 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: and they say he's gonna blow that record tonight. I 404 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: believe it was there now, correct me if I'm wrong. 405 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: That's an amazing statistics. And he doesn't even play an 406 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: instrument as fair as any well, and he always would 407 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: say that it was like he would compare himself to 408 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: Mark Twain back on the trail, which again shout out 409 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: the Mark Twain. I'm reading him right now. But um, 410 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: but in terms of that dynamic, I mean, I remember 411 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: it was one of his final rallies that he did 412 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire with the laser light shows, and he 413 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: read a letter from Bill Belichick. I mean, and I 414 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: can't stand the Patriots just have to get that in there. 415 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: But you may not get out of town alive right 416 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: through snowballs at Santa Claus. I'm well prepared. But in 417 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: terms of enthusiasm, are you nervous? Adrian As as a 418 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: Democratic insider, I mean, you feel that there's a lot 419 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: of enthusiasm on the left, but we haven't noticed it 420 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: in Iowa. And and to Jeannie's point, turn out what 421 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: looks like it might be an atam are a lot 422 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: to wait. But I mean, sure, of course I'm a 423 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: little worried. I mean that's anytime you can pack a 424 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: big rally, you know, or a big stadium with with 425 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of folks as you know, that's something to 426 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: be worried about. But number one, I think we've got 427 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: to keep in mind, you've got to look at the 428 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: actual strategy here that the Trump campaign is employing. They 429 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: are not and they have not done anything to bring 430 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: in new voters. He's doubling down his His strategy to 431 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: win here is doubling down his base and then trying 432 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: to suppress the vote on the Democratic side and then 433 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: maybe like you know, churn ups and you know, you 434 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: talk to the Russians and the Chinese or whomever else 435 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: wants to like. But the point is, like the bottom 436 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: line is he is doubling down in his base. He 437 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: has done nothing to orow his space. So sure he 438 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: gets these giant rallies, we know that his base is 439 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: going to turn out for him, there's not going to 440 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: be any soft voters there. They will turn out. So 441 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: for the general election nominee, the strategy has got to 442 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: be turn out the Democratic voters and then pulling those indies. 443 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: And I think we can do that, and so far 444 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: are pulling his shows that shows that we will. He's 445 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: going to make an attempt to try and lure black 446 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: voters that came through in the state of the Union, 447 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: that exactly, and so he's trying to say the Democrats 448 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: maybe also it's a diversionary thing that you can't rely 449 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: on that vote, and he's gonna put money there, but 450 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: he certainly thinks he can make in roots there. He does. Yeah, 451 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: but his campaign actually said in the press this week 452 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: that he can't win re election without the suburban women 453 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: that he lost in two thousand eighteen. And I would say, 454 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: not trying to bolster the hopes of Democrats, but you 455 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: sound like you're gonna hit that Apple teena again. So 456 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: so the one thing I would say is is just 457 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: throwing Bob's on this program. Look at two thousand eighteen turnout. 458 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: It was highest since Teddy Roosevelt ran for office, right, 459 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: so nobody was searching for enthusiasm. In two thousand eighteen, 460 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: Democrats picked up forty congressional seats, they picked up state legislatures, 461 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: they picked up governors. I mean, that's midterm election in 462 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: our history. That's midterm election. Ten million, almost ten million 463 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: more votes in the Republicans got. So what's happened in 464 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: the last two years that would like change the dynamic 465 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: that existed in the mentor lasts? Well, I I mean, 466 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: I think one thing is that Democrats need to really 467 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: focus on speaking to voters in the seven to nine 468 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: swing states that will decide this election in November. You know, 469 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: how do they get that turnout in a lot of 470 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: talk about healthcare and the price of pharmaceuticals? Right? And 471 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, I am not sure and I've said this 472 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: all along that the focus on impeachment gets you where 473 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: you need to be in November. Well, that to me 474 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: is a big problem. I think the primary states and 475 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: past Super Tuesday that you will see more of a 476 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: focus and we'll pivot. And that, by the way, highlight 477 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: the fact that only reiterates why Democrats have got to 478 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: figure out who their nominee is quickly, because we don't 479 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: want to go to a protracted convention you don't want 480 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: to approach. The nominee needs to be decided as soon 481 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: as humanly possible. I want to I'm gonna quote my 482 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: good friend mentor Tom King. I'm ripping up the script 483 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: or as Nancy Pelosi, I'm ripping up the state of 484 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: the Union. But let's go there, Adrian L. Rod, because 485 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: you just said, you said you don't want to have 486 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: a broker conventions, all of this stuff, for lack of 487 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: a better word, that's been thrown into the conversation Adrian L. 488 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: Rod about oh, maybe there will be one. Maybe there's 489 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna be one. And let me tell you something. I 490 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: do not want one because I like to sleep number 491 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: one and no. But but it's serious. They said the 492 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: same thing last cycle with Ted Cruise. He had a 493 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: southern firewall, said Cruise. It was the southern firewall. He 494 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: was gonna be able to defeat Donald Trump. But I 495 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: don't I don't buy great impression stick around long enough, 496 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: four and half years. I've been chasing him. But a 497 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: secure point, you don't buy that. So we've got to 498 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: look at the way the primary map has been rejiggered 499 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: this time around. Right, you've got the big two biggest 500 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: delegate states, Texas and California front loaded on Super Tuesday. 501 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: That's going to make a big difference after Super Tuesday, 502 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: when all the results come in, of the delegates in 503 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: the Democratic primary will have been awarded after April nineteenth. 504 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: I believe it's the day we hit. So by April nineteen, 505 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: towards the end of April, we should definitely know who 506 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: that nominee is. Wo. God, well, I've lost it with 507 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: Oh I was gonna say about healthcare. I was gonna 508 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: tell about healthcare. I mean, of the forty Democrats gon 509 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: elected at the House, only one was from Medicare for All. 510 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: The other thirty nine were not elected on Medicare for All, 511 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: and so that I don't know how that polls, but it's, 512 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's a Bernie Sanders thing. It is does 513 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily especially again in the states that matter, the 514 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: exact purple states that matter. It's a hard sell to 515 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: tell a hundred forty million people we're gonna take their 516 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: private healthcare. And the idea of having to call the 517 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: government about something with your healthcare. I don't really like 518 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: to call the Department Motor Vehicles or any of those 519 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: government agencies you call so security. Now there's a ninety 520 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: minute wait time. And you know, I hate to uh 521 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: constantly throw uh fire on the wood, but would on 522 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: the fire. But James apple Teeny's James James Carville. If 523 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: you listen to him, he's making exactly your point. He's like, 524 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: why don't let me start talking about normal things that 525 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: voters care about, not all this crazy stuff which can't 526 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: about football? Was coming up Panels days. What's their quick 527 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: take on the radar? Adrian L rod Rick Davis throwing 528 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: fire on the wood or wood on the fire, We 529 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: don't know, Jennie Davis and Fred Hackberg. I'm Kevin's really 530 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television. Genie's they know. I'm 531 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: Kevin's really cheap Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Radio. 532 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: What is happening? And you're listening to Bloomberg ninety nine 533 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: one Apple teeny, you're listening to Sound On with Kevin's 534 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: a really live from the new I'm sure primary on 535 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin surreally, chief Washington correspondent fro Bloomberg 536 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: Television of Bloomberg Radio broadcasting live from Manchester New Hampshire 537 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: at the Double Tree downtown where in just a few 538 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: short hours they're gonna start opening the polls for the 539 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: second primary. I'm joined by a panel of all stars. 540 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, how grateful am I? How much gratitude 541 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: do I have that I get to literally get paid 542 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: to talk to four insiders who were geniuses in the 543 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: political world. And who who's he talking about? Fred? That's 544 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: Fred Ackford. Well, I don't know about you, Rick Davis. 545 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: Fredd Ackford, former chairman of the Export Import Bank, author 546 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: of the new book Trade Is Not a four letter word. 547 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: Adrian al Rod, democratic strategist, former director of strategic communications 548 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, saw you a morning 549 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Joe every morning? Really now? Rick Davis Bloomberg Politics contributor, 550 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: former campaign manager to John McCain's O eight presidential campaign, 551 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: which one, by the way, New Hampshire primary, and Genie's 552 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: ain't no Bloomberg Politics contributor senior advisor had applied its 553 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: economics and political science professor at Iona College thrilled to 554 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: have you also, Genie, this is your first time on 555 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Radio sound on program. It is I am 556 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: a virgin to the show. What will it be last? 557 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: Will it be your life? I hope you got me 558 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: back any time. So we do this thing on the 559 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: program called what's your quick take on your Radar? Where 560 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: you tell me one thing that maybe is in the 561 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: news that you don't know about that you want or 562 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: know that you know about, that you think other people 563 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: should know about. So I'm going to start with Fred 564 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: Hackberg because he's been on so many times, uh, and 565 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: tell me what's your quick take on your radar? Well, 566 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: trade is important to this state hasn't come up in 567 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: the debates. Uh. Bernie sand has made a little swipe 568 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: at the two New Hampshire senators about the vote for 569 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: U S m c A. But this state does a 570 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of trade with Canada, Germany, not 571 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: so much with China. But it's an important issue in 572 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: this state. So what how how is it important to 573 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: elaborate on that it does a big export it does 574 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: it exports a lot of printing equipment. Uh. One of 575 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: the things I did see, uh and talking to some 576 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: business people here, you know there's some people involved in 577 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: fossil fuels and it certainly did pull that back so 578 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: that that that industry is hurting and took from an 579 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: exploit point of view, from a engineering point of view. 580 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: But this is an important trade state, not as important 581 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: perhaps as Iowa, but important for trade. I'm struck by 582 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: by the notion that UH Senator Sanders still voted against 583 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: the U. S. M. C A is the only one 584 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: on that stage. Even Warrant voted for US, right, and 585 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: that really has senators voted for it, But it hasn't 586 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: been a divisive issue in the debate, which I'm struck 587 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: by because it was he was he very much laid 588 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: down a marker. He did laid down to market, and 589 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't very kind to the two senators of this 590 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: date when he did lay down that market. Alright. Fred 591 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: Hackburke's author of the new book out. You have to 592 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: go read it, especially if you're a trade nerd like me. 593 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: It's called trade is not a four letter work. Thanks 594 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 1: for your quick take on your radar. How's that for 595 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: like plugging your Adrian UM? My quick take is I 596 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: want to know who's going to get third place tomorrow nine. 597 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that is going to dictate a lot of 598 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: the future of the primary. UM have to drop out 599 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: if they're not no, no, no, no, no, But I 600 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: think you've got to worry about resources going forward. I mean, 601 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: is anybody talking about Yang anymore? Saturday Night Live is 602 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: talking about it that I did hilarious, it was great math, 603 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: the math button, hands, the hands. But but look, I mean, 604 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: primary voters are they are starting to hone in on 605 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: who you know the nominee is going to be. And 606 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: I think if you are not a top three finisher 607 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: in one of the first two stays, it's going to 608 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: be that much harder to go forward. Um in particular 609 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, I mean, what in the world has happened there? Right? 610 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: He was pulling number one nationally just two or three 611 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: weeks ago, right before Iowa. Now we are seeing such 612 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: a downfall. So you know, I'm also looking to see 613 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: where African American voters go if he drops out of 614 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: the race. Do you a formidable front runner? I do? 615 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: I do. But his biggest challenge is getting is building 616 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: a diverse coalition. Do you think he could be the 617 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: standard bearer for the party if he can get blacks 618 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: to support him? Yes? Do you know them more black 619 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: people and self ben than the state of Vermont. Wow, 620 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: I did not know that. I just came up to 621 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: the doctor. But I just heard about someone else told 622 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: me that one. But in terms of him years old 623 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: mayor of a small town, midsize town. But he's got No, 624 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm not, it's not not I mean, but I'm saying, 625 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: can he capture the attention of the Democratic Party and say, 626 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm ready to do this? He has? 627 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: He has? Yeah, I think I would argue that he has. Again, 628 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: the question for him is he is he a one 629 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: trick pony in Iowa, New Hampshire, which are largely white states, 630 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: non diverse states, or can he go can he take 631 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: this momentum that we assume he's going to continue to 632 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: have after tomorrow night and take it in to diverse 633 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: date like Nevada and a really diverse date like South Carolina. 634 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm asking those questions is because when 635 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: I was at the klob char rally asking about Buddha Jedge, 636 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: and I was as well that those were the that's 637 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: what's on the mind of voters. They're giving him a look. 638 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: They haven't said no, but they're still they wanted a 639 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of intrigue. Success breed success exactly, all right, Yeah, 640 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: I know, by the way, being a mayor is a 641 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: big job. But he is the outsider in this campaign. 642 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: You're running against three centers and former vice president, right, 643 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: and there is an outsider lane in the Democratic Party 644 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't have an ideological bent to it. Right. So 645 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: if someone's looking for an outsider, I think they're sitting 646 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: on buddage right now. Whether he can deliver for them, 647 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: we'll see, what's your quick take on your radar ricord 648 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: this morning? You know, President Trump presented his budget and 649 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: by now nobody cares about it. When I came to 650 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: do you see, like eight years ago, I remember it 651 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you get a floppy disk and you 652 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: get a CD ROM for for like the Obama budget 653 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: would never passed anyway. In this budget, tell us what's 654 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: in it and what it wrote? What the road for 655 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: four point eight trillion dollars worth of federal spending? Probably 656 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: not something that's gonna excite a lot of Republicans. But 657 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: he does a couple of things. One he cuts foreign aid. 658 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Uh General Maddis when he was Secretary Defense at for 659 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: every dollar foreign aid you cut, I gotta buy another bullet. 660 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: So you know, foreign aid translates to peace, which means 661 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: our military doesn't have to work so hard. So it'll 662 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: be interesting to see within the Republican Party, people like 663 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: his buddy Lindsay Graham are going to be dead set 664 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: against that. So the campaign against that to also, he 665 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: cuts thirty billion dollars in Medicare spending. Now, he went 666 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: to Davos and talked about cutting Medicare spending, then today 667 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: they present a budget that does it, and then by 668 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: the afternoon in the White House saying there are no 669 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Medicare cuts in this budget whatsoever. So I mean he's 670 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: playing defensive about an issue that he himself put into 671 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: play today. And so this is one of the first 672 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: sort of unforced eras that I've seen so far. And 673 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: he wants to go to the moon. Though he's increasing 674 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: spending for NASA and the Space Force and the Space Force, 675 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: and also increase seeing uh funding for I believe defense spending. Yeah, uh, 676 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: defense spending gets an increase in spending and domestic spending 677 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: gets a cut. I think. I mean, we're getting way 678 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. So I'm just gonna quickly maybe devote 679 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty seconds to this. I think one of the divisive 680 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: issues in the Republican primary will be on government funding 681 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: because that club for growth, they are ready to come 682 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: back and say why are we spending all this money? 683 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: So I it will be fascinating to see where the 684 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: deficit hawks go. Great, thanks for bringing that up, Jennie's 685 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: a know what's on your radar? What's your quick take? 686 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: Actually something that Rick and I learned about this morning. Um. 687 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: I spend a lot of my research time looking at 688 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: voting laws, and one thing we learned this morning is 689 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: that in two thousand seventeen, New Hampshire passed a law 690 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: making it tougher for people to register in the last 691 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: thirty days. This impacts the population I care on off 692 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: a lot about transient young people in particular, and I 693 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: don't think there's been a lot of coverage. Certainly I 694 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: hadn't heard about it. Of course, since the Shelby County 695 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: decision and since the overturning of the voting right, fact 696 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: states have been free that otherwise may not have been 697 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: free to make these types of changes with literal earn No, 698 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, sort of somebody to look over them and 699 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: say what's the impact. So I'm curious to see after 700 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: tomorrow did this impact young people particularly or other transient populations. 701 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: You know, I will tell you coming from New York 702 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: where we have very intiquated voting laws. UM. You know, 703 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: the idea that you would have to think to be 704 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,959 Speaker 1: registered before a primary, you know, nine or six months 705 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: in advance, is just not something my students would think about. 706 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: So to me, I think this is something to watch 707 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow that hasn't gotten a lot of cords. Great, and 708 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: just quickly all note what my quick take is is 709 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: UH General Secretary shi Jing Ping of China wearing a 710 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: mask today UH in China as he is touring some 711 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: of the facilities as the coronavirus continues on UH. And 712 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: you know President Trumps still saying that the US is 713 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: working a positive rhetoric coming out of the White House 714 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: with regards to that as the markets are very carefully 715 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: watching the coronavirus. Hey, this was on Fred Hackberg, Jeanie's 716 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: a no, Rick Davis and Adrian Rod. Thank you, thank you, 717 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. Fun downloads Bloomberg Down 718 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: on podcast on Apple lit Tunes, Bloomberg dot com, or 719 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: by downloading Bloomberg Business App. You can also find us 720 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio and Spotify. President 721 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: Trump's across the Street. He's got a massive rally. They're 722 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: lined up. It's like Mark Twain, Mark Twain and New Hampshire. 723 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin SURRELLI you're listening to Bloomberg nine and I 724 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: want