Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
Speaker 1: scripted as well. This reunion made me laugh from top
Speaker 1: to bottom. She had a big small on my face
Speaker 1: watching its. Shout out to the entire production and the girls.
Speaker 1: Similar to Bills, you guys deliver an amazing partwent reunion.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the rest.
Speaker 1: So listen, Dustin and Blue at the Pumps are getting ready.
Speaker 2: Jarvis makes an appearance.
Speaker 1: Ye okay, Now, I got a chance to meet Jarvis
Speaker 1: when I interview Kelly, and I did tell the rain
Speaker 1: dropped that he was very handsome. I was happy that
Speaker 1: y'all saw him. So first thing first, let me start
Speaker 1: with the ladies. Blue, what did you think of Jarvis
Speaker 1: and was he worked behind?
Speaker 3: I missed it. I'm looking right now. Oh there I go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, you're not impressed.
Speaker 3: No, No, he's a good, decent looking man. I never
Speaker 3: thought he was unattractive. I actually think that I couldn't
Speaker 3: see Kelly with her next dude being somebody not attractive
Speaker 3: for several reasons, right, So I knew he would be attractive.
Speaker 3: I just hope you know that they figured all their
Speaker 3: stuff out. What stuff, you know, how businesses or the
Speaker 3: whole rest of her life, Like she has a lot
Speaker 3: going on. Jarvis is probably the one thing in her
Speaker 3: life that I thought was going right. So I wasn't
Speaker 3: surprised that he seemed to be an upstand man from
Speaker 3: how quickly he flashed across the screen. He has a
Speaker 3: good body, he has a strong back. I'm sure they're
Speaker 3: having a good time. I'm happy for her. Here's the
Speaker 3: thing that's so funny about Kelly is the only thing
Speaker 3: I've ever said about Kelly is she's working for her
Speaker 3: check and she needs to check and she's making sure
Speaker 3: that she's earned every dollar she's getting. She's working. I
Speaker 3: think the Jarvis storyline isn't as provocative as we sometimes pretended.
Speaker 3: Is to like give her a little bit of a look,
Speaker 3: but it's not no teach. How he's an attractive black
Speaker 3: man who showed up.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Claudia, your thoughts.
Speaker 4: And Jarvis's handsome.
Speaker 5: And I like that she did just like right away
Speaker 5: film on the show. She waited till the reunion. I
Speaker 5: think that was dope to do it that way. I
Speaker 5: think she handled it in the right way.
Speaker 4: I don't need to give that up until I'm ready
Speaker 4: to give it.
Speaker 5: Up, you know what I'm saying. And I'm gonna do
Speaker 5: it at the reunion, you know. And I think that
Speaker 5: was a good move and it shows support because a
Speaker 5: lot of times some of these women that.
Speaker 4: Are married to men, their man won't even show up.
Speaker 5: So I like the fact that hers a boyfriend, a
Speaker 5: new boyfriend, that that did not everybody's comfortable doing that.
Speaker 5: So I thought that was I thought that was dope.
Speaker 5: Um yeah, tall, in shape, handsome, chocolate. I'm happy for
Speaker 5: her because let them playing something. So many husbands, thank
Speaker 5: you had to look at okay, not just saying this
Speaker 5: show like in shows on TV in general, so listen
Speaker 5: it's hot or here in these streets. Okay, the cute
Speaker 5: ones got a lot of the ugly ones that like, damn,
Speaker 5: they ain't really camera ready.
Speaker 4: I'm out at it, claud you missed it.
Speaker 3: They're asking Carlos while you're speaking, to confirm it's the
Speaker 3: same jarvist that showed up to the.
Speaker 1: House mine, the same person. It's the same one. He
Speaker 1: he has chocolate, he has dimples. Kelly, I'm know you're watching,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure Jarvis is next to you. Listen, Kelly,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep a professional because by Jarvis coolest ship,
Speaker 1: Like Jarvis is cool as ship. But out of respect
Speaker 1: to Kelly, Kelly doesn't want me to to compliment her band,
Speaker 1: like like how I want to have like a.
Speaker 3: High booty because he'd be working out. You can tell
Speaker 3: I'm not saying.
Speaker 4: He looked like he was packing.
Speaker 3: You got a little got.
Speaker 1: Save me.
Speaker 3: You caught some print and she told you not to
Speaker 3: say it. I love Kelly, your man got a print. Congratulations.
Speaker 3: I actually applaud that.
Speaker 6: I love the fact that they've been together.
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 6: I'm trying, Carlos.
Speaker 7: I love the fact that they've been together for a
Speaker 7: year and on the low, and we didn't even know
Speaker 7: about it, and now they popping out together. I think
Speaker 7: they look good together and I'm happy for her personally.
Speaker 7: I like Kelly, So I didn't. Hell, I'm talking like,
Speaker 7: I think she brings a lot to the Househoives of Atlanta.
Speaker 7: Her energy is necessary in this new group, and I
Speaker 7: love what she brings to the show. And I like
Speaker 7: that she kept the relationship on the loaf for a year.
Speaker 7: She put a quiet you know what I'm saying. Quiet
Speaker 7: did that with King. She kept him on the loaf
Speaker 7: for a year and then they ended up being together
Speaker 7: for you know a little bit longer or whatever. But
Speaker 7: I like that get your rootine first, especially when TV
Speaker 7: shows and shit is involved, and you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 7: you just got to make sure you vet the person appropriately.
Speaker 6: So I'm happy for Kelly. Shit pop out. That's right.
Speaker 4: You don't want to get embarrassed like in the beginning.
Speaker 5: It's all fun like it's exciting, and you may want
Speaker 5: to in the beginning, but you get them on there
Speaker 5: too fast and see how they change up on you
Speaker 5: or you get made a fool of it and you
Speaker 5: over here looking stupid. Because some people they put someone
Speaker 5: on there the minute they match on the dating app,
Speaker 5: they showing them and they look stupid later on.
Speaker 4: So and you know it's she did it. The right way.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and what I will say, as somebody who's
Speaker 1: been in a line answer for a very long time,
Speaker 1: I was impressed that he wasn't somebody that was familiar
Speaker 1: because oftentimes I love my girls the boys that run through.
Speaker 5: I was the same word I was about ran through
Speaker 5: yet and everyone did the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the guys are ran through, like
Speaker 1: you've seen them with this chick, that chick, this chick.
Speaker 2: They all go to m c K.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's where I met Gray Sweatpants. I
Speaker 4: have always met a guy at mc K.
Speaker 6: I will say that, of course.
Speaker 1: Blue.
Speaker 3: I have not been to set establishment and they have
Speaker 3: great Blue too.
Speaker 1: I haven't been because I I don't smoke, and I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't handle it. So it's like a cigar bar lounge.
Speaker 4: That's just the back room. He's the front room.
Speaker 1: Oh see, I didn't know that because I've been invited
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and I'm just like, I'm good.
Speaker 1: So where a lot of single black women in Atlanta go,
Speaker 1: and a plethora of single black men frequent there, and
Speaker 1: it's to pick up women.
Speaker 5: I see all the reality the reality husbands be up
Speaker 5: in there too. I'm gonna just say, I'm gonna leave
Speaker 5: it at that.
Speaker 3: I don't want a Marshall's TJ Max run through a husband.
Speaker 4: No, I've got guys that I haven't seen before either, but.
Speaker 3: You get high quality. But I'm just saying that in general,
Speaker 3: men need to know that women have started judging back.
Speaker 3: If y'all can be batties, we can judge.
Speaker 5: There's a little bit of everything, is what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 5: you'll see you'll see the reality people that you will recognize.
Speaker 5: You're gonna see them in DC's there. You may see
Speaker 5: the time there. But then you also see some single
Speaker 5: men that you've never seen before. You'll see some guys
Speaker 5: carrying backpacks. They may may not be real of Loue
Speaker 5: Biton or not, or they may be scammers. And there's
Speaker 5: guys that really got It's a little bit of everything.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit of it.
Speaker 5: Listen, all four of us could find something up in
Speaker 5: there that we like because it's like a little bit
Speaker 5: there's a mix of everything.
Speaker 3: Given Russian ROULETTEO the way you're describing, you can find
Speaker 3: God or the devil.
Speaker 4: You know, that's land of them like life though MTK
Speaker 4: my six Roland.
Speaker 3: You know. I don't gamble, claud want to Vegas together.
Speaker 3: I spent two dollars.
Speaker 5: Girl, that's your column. You gotta throw the dice. Sometimes
Speaker 5: go live a little you over here fighting bitches. You
Speaker 5: can go to mt K date.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: I don't fight bitches. They just know that if I
Speaker 3: have to.
Speaker 4: But no, maybe I will not fight. But I'm going
Speaker 4: there's drug, yell and be.
Speaker 3: Like you gotta shoot me, like eight times.
Speaker 1: So listen.
Speaker 2: Jars is definitely uh.
Speaker 1: I'll say he was. He was a nice guy, but said,
Speaker 1: are you surprised or you no thoughts about it?
Speaker 7: No, I'm listen. I think they look great together. I
Speaker 7: think they make a great couple, and I'm happy for her.
Speaker 7: I'm happy for her, and the fact that they're popping
Speaker 7: out now and like being seen together in public means
Speaker 7: that we will more than likely see him on the
Speaker 7: show with her next season, and I'm looking forward to that,
Speaker 7: seeing them date and do their thing.
Speaker 6: So I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody, you're the historian.
Speaker 6: Let's let's go down the list.
Speaker 7: Kay Michelle is married, Sami is married, Kelly is, Kelly
Speaker 7: is in her relationship, Shami is married, Pinky is married,
Speaker 7: Portia is in a relationship, Angela is married, Drew is single,
Speaker 7: Drew and Phaedr are single.
Speaker 3: Fager single, start talking.
Speaker 6: I believe she's single. I believe she's single.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's single.
Speaker 6: Okay, And Cynthia has a boyfriend so very much.
Speaker 5: Why not asking if Roger Bob was an m c K. No,
Speaker 5: Roger Bob, you're not.
Speaker 3: Making a good cake. This is all over the place.
Speaker 3: You can find a pastor, you can find a drug deal.
Speaker 4: Look, bigcoin millionaires, Damn, it's all that. Yeah, whiskey mistress too.
Speaker 4: You can go there first, it's like under a tent.
Speaker 4: Then you're walking over mc K.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I like Loki.
Speaker 7: Loki is my spot in Atlanta. I probably shouldn't even
Speaker 7: say that.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: No, I shouldn't even have said it on here, But
Speaker 6: I love it there.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm for checking out. I'm going back there a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Once in the last fifteen years, and I got stuck
Speaker 3: in the airport to two hours. No, for two days.
Speaker 3: I haven't been to Atlanta because you have to give
Speaker 3: me a reason to come to Atlanta. I wantly have
Speaker 3: been one in fifteen years.
Speaker 4: Well, go get you a big coin Scamma, Clada, don't
Speaker 4: talk that into my life.
Speaker 3: I want to meet the pastor something.
Speaker 4: A pastor.
Speaker 3: I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: Hell, that's a griff of waiting.
Speaker 4: Happened.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. Oh, like a good.
Speaker 3: Accountant, like, I want somebody who's in the industry, but
Speaker 3: not of the industry, so that way I don't have
Speaker 3: to worry about them being cloud chasse because they don't
Speaker 3: even falk about what what I'm around, but they have
Speaker 3: their own coin. The last that I've been entertaining were
Speaker 3: people who were industry adjacent. Because Claudie, we're gonna talk
Speaker 3: about this later when they talk to portioning the girls
Speaker 3: about dating men who are cloud chasers and how tricky
Speaker 3: it can be when you're with a guy, somebody a masculine,
Speaker 3: not just men who love how submissive you are at home,
Speaker 3: but the second they see you being the big powerful
Speaker 3: bit you are with your job, they freak out. And
Speaker 3: I know that conversation with the girls on stage because
Speaker 3: I said this earlier a couple of weeks ago. A
Speaker 3: guy I was talking to saw me on all these
Speaker 3: things and he got scared, and Claudie was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: get used to it. I think The Girls is a
Speaker 3: perfect example of when you're single and dating and your
Speaker 3: high profile as a woman, you have to worry about
Speaker 3: cloud chasing men as much as back of the day
Speaker 3: men have to worry about gold diggers. The new gold
Speaker 3: diggers are men.
Speaker 5: And don't let them see your car nicer than them
Speaker 5: or their's, or they're your chain bigger than theirs. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna start renting Honda Civics when I go out because
Speaker 5: I'm trying to no shape the Honda Civics. But I'm saying,
Speaker 5: when you a man to get intimidated, does someone have one?
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, a man was to get intimidated by a car.
Speaker 4: Are you gonna win that chain?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am step your chain up, bigg if you.
Speaker 3: Don't like it by uber Claudia, so unless you He
Speaker 3: came to pick me up and he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I said, okay a ride home? Are you serious right now?
Speaker 4: Like okay, big money, okay, big money?
Speaker 3: He called me big Okay you already know yep. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I faced the sign with a guy and he saw
Speaker 5: my car in my garage. He acted weird ever since.
Speaker 5: I'm like, don't let that be make you mad?
Speaker 4: As other beats, I'm gonna get it in this lifetime
Speaker 4: too since the beginning. That's just the tip.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what did y'all think? Because what we did
Speaker 1: learn in this reunion they did flash back to unseen
Speaker 1: footage and we did learn dustin that Fader filmed a
Speaker 1: scene Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 2: And she wants to run for office.
Speaker 1: What did you think about that unseen footage? Would you
Speaker 1: have loved to have seen that as a storyline played
Speaker 1: out this season?
Speaker 7: I love Jasmine Crockett, so I want to see her
Speaker 7: every chance I can, so I definitely wish that that
Speaker 7: would have been included in the edit. And look, it's
Speaker 7: no phaser has a law degree, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: So she has an understanding of the law. And if
Speaker 7: she is interested in running for office to do something
Speaker 7: good and contribute something good to society in her communities,
Speaker 7: I wish her more power. More power to her. We
Speaker 7: need as many people on our side as we can get.
Speaker 7: And if Phaedra was sitting down with Jasmin Crockett, that's
Speaker 7: a clear indication that her political views would appeal to me.
Speaker 7: So personally, So I think that I wish her will
Speaker 7: with that, and I think she should do it, Claudia, Yeah,
Speaker 7: for her hearts.
Speaker 4: In the right place, Like, don't do it for out
Speaker 4: or a storyline. We don't need that.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's something that you know, I do not
Speaker 5: play about politics. So if your heart's really in it,
Speaker 5: who am I to say no? If she really wants
Speaker 5: to do it for the right reasons, not for the cloud,
Speaker 5: not for the attention, not for the checking off a
Speaker 5: bucket list.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, go get it.
Speaker 5: She is a smart woman. Cannot take that away from her.
Speaker 5: And if she feels like and she is connected, you
Speaker 5: got you can't take that away from page. She definitely
Speaker 5: has a lot of connections and you need that. And
Speaker 5: it's a different time.
Speaker 4: Now, right like back in the day.
Speaker 5: Having a reality show passed and being affiliated to of
Speaker 5: being married to someone who did time or your friend's
Speaker 5: circle before that be a negative right now since Trump.
Speaker 5: I mean, one good thing about trumping office is they
Speaker 5: can't judge us the way they used to before, Like
Speaker 5: you can't be held accountable for someone that in your
Speaker 5: something that someone in your circle did, and that would
Speaker 5: be something that would tank your your career, because nowadays,
Speaker 5: you know there things are a little bit more lenient
Speaker 5: with that. So maybe ten years ago i'd say no,
Speaker 5: but now she would be she'd be okay, And again
Speaker 5: I do think she's smart, So yeah, why not.
Speaker 3: Blue?
Speaker 1: Do you support this as a storyline per phase the
Speaker 1: next season if her heart is into it?
Speaker 3: Well, I worked in the news for about ten years, right,
Speaker 3: and one of the things that I noticed was a
Speaker 3: shot to my family over at the Grio and CNN.
Speaker 3: But one of the things I noticed back in the
Speaker 3: day was conservatives have been doing this for forever, guys
Speaker 3: for about thirty years now. So if you look back to.
Speaker 6: Reagan, Yeah, I was just about to say Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan being president was that first kobash. But then
Speaker 3: when you look at reality stars around road Rules, real world,
Speaker 3: like around the late nineties, you start to see white
Speaker 3: conservatives who would go on these reality shows and you're
Speaker 3: thinking they're learning about what it's like to be black
Speaker 3: or Latino or gay, but then they would go back
Speaker 3: with that fame to Utah and be become congressmen. There
Speaker 3: are several conservative reality stars who have been in Congress
Speaker 3: and different senators and different parts of politics for about
Speaker 3: twenty thirty years now, and it's quietly been the way
Speaker 3: that they've won that base. So we're actually very behind
Speaker 3: as progressives in doing this. And when I think about
Speaker 3: reality TV, because reality TV is like the new movie Star,
Speaker 3: when Jason Lee shoutut to my from real Hollywood and
Speaker 3: like a lot Jason. When Jason Lee decided to run
Speaker 3: in Stockton, he asked me to host some of his events,
Speaker 3: including the one that he did with Mayweather right before
Speaker 3: the election. When you hear Jason talk about Stockton, he
Speaker 3: was somebody who was a foster child who was walking
Speaker 3: the streets of Stockton. Now he's big in Hollywood. He
Speaker 3: used everything from Rihanna to Madonna to bring those resources
Speaker 3: back to his childhood home. Exactly speaking Black people who
Speaker 3: are progressive, when we run for office, it is never
Speaker 3: for publicity. We have such a strong sense of responsibility
Speaker 3: that we only do it because we care. And Jason
Speaker 3: work with Jasmin Crockett, so I know Jasmin Crockett is
Speaker 3: a kind of person where she's only showing up if
Speaker 3: you're about that life. That's been four years seeing her
Speaker 3: working with Jason, and she's constantly showing up, Ben Kroupt.
Speaker 3: They only show up if you're gonna use your platform.
Speaker 3: So the minute I saw Jasmine Crockett and I know
Speaker 3: Fader is brilliant. Like we joke about her being a
Speaker 3: grifter sometimes and making funny faces, but the lady is smart.
Speaker 3: We can all agree with that. Right her house is
Speaker 3: paid off in this economy. Hello to see someone like
Speaker 3: Faedra who's a mother be with Jasmine Crockett and I
Speaker 3: know what I've seen Jasmin Crockett behind the scenes. I'm
Speaker 3: a thousand percent behind this and other reality stars who
Speaker 3: are progressives, not you GOP puppets, other reality stars who
Speaker 3: are black, brown and progressive. I hope that you would
Speaker 3: think about following suit if you have any sort of
Speaker 3: lover or desire for politics. Perfect example, Clauda, you just
Speaker 3: said that you're really into politics. Have you thought about
Speaker 3: out doing more of that work, because you'd be surprised
Speaker 3: how people would listen to you just because of your celebrity.
Speaker 3: I actually been very passionate about reality starts who are
Speaker 3: about that life actually doing it more So, shout out
Speaker 3: to you, Phedro Zero.
Speaker 4: Notes one of these days for sure.
Speaker 5: But on the right, we have people like Pete hegseth Okay,
Speaker 5: who was on like wrote some MTV show and a
Speaker 5: hot ass mess. The ones on the writer are a
Speaker 5: complete disaster, Like I can't name one good one on
Speaker 5: the rights.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and I'll say this as somebody who's
Speaker 1: working with Pedra.
Speaker 2: I remember I think it was season eight if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, or season nine.
Speaker 1: One of those seasons we actually shot Phedra and Porsche
Speaker 1: going to the DNC.
Speaker 2: She's always been yeah, so we shot her doing that.
Speaker 1: We also took a cast trip to Florida season eight
Speaker 1: and hey, Kim feels that's her season and she also
Speaker 1: I forgot the name of the politician.
Speaker 7: With the head, Yes, Fredrika with her last name Jackson
Speaker 7: or no, Fredrika is something I know exactly who you're
Speaker 7: talking Forgive us because we can't remember her name, but
Speaker 7: it's too Yeah.
Speaker 1: My point is Phaedra has always been very involved in
Speaker 1: politics and in governing and law and all those things.
Speaker 1: And look, my opinion is I think the reason why
Speaker 1: because a lot of the fans were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I had Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 2: We didn't see it.
Speaker 1: As a producer, I will say this, and I don't
Speaker 1: know this for a fact, but I can read between
Speaker 1: the lines. When you see a footage like that that
Speaker 1: wasn't used, More than likely there wasn't a middle and
Speaker 1: an end right right, Like you can't just show a
Speaker 1: Jasmine crocking scene and there's no follow up with it.
Speaker 2: It's a throwaway. So I believe that's probably the reason why.
Speaker 1: But what I will say is, look, Phaedra has death
Speaker 1: receies a lot of flak this season for a lack
Speaker 1: of storyline and lack of Crows participation. I definitely think
Speaker 1: if this is something she's really passionate about, I for one,
Speaker 1: am rooting for her to make this her storyline next
Speaker 1: season because this is something that I think is right
Speaker 1: up her alley. Number one, but number two, I think
Speaker 1: it's something that in this climate, we would love to see.
Speaker 1: So I'm with the three of you guys. I would
Speaker 1: love to see it, just like I would love to
Speaker 1: see Drew's new body as well.
Speaker 2: So Drew has a new body, and she.
Speaker 1: Told the people that it wasn't leaking, Cay Michelle said,
Speaker 1: but her mom is leaking. And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it became a shade fest when it comes to
Speaker 1: her relationship with Black, where she has allege that they
Speaker 1: have not consummated their relationship Blue.
Speaker 2: Do you buy it? And what do you think of
Speaker 2: Drew's new body.
Speaker 3: I can't speak on what Black and Drew have done.
Speaker 3: He seems persistent, uh. I honestly think if Drew's lying
Speaker 3: to us about her involvement with Black, I think she's
Speaker 3: proven why that's that's probably a good idea. I don't
Speaker 3: think that this season is the environment for her to
Speaker 3: be claiming him if they were talking. I hope she
Speaker 3: takes a page book and hushes until another full year
Speaker 3: of figuring out what's happening with them has happened. I
Speaker 3: think even her bringing him on the phone was too
Speaker 3: much because you saw how that turned out. Like, Drew,
Speaker 3: keep us in the dark your next relationship until he's
Speaker 3: proven that he won't embarrass you or oh okay, I
Speaker 3: didn't know. Okay, people, you are Drew because she does
Speaker 3: she does love to follow on ports footsteps, according to
Speaker 3: the girls. I didn't clock that, but that's become the
Speaker 3: new allegation.
Speaker 1: That's that's well, people are saying, and Claudia and dust
Speaker 1: you can chime in. A lot of people do believe
Speaker 1: and Kelly Potter is one of them. A lot of
Speaker 1: people do believe that Drew is using the Porsche starter pack.
Speaker 1: First we would go naked bondos, the body being done,
Speaker 1: and dipping in the Lady Pond allegedly, these are things.
Speaker 3: Didn't invent any of those things.
Speaker 4: Show please, I'm a hater, so please.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Porch didn't invent any of those things. Those are
Speaker 3: all tried and true tropes of the genre that precede
Speaker 3: and expand much further than even the Bravo Universe. I
Speaker 3: will say that proximity to it, like if you're somebody
Speaker 3: saw a thing on YouTube about a family that was
Speaker 3: broke and they made a family that was in real estate,
Speaker 3: and the nigga tell him how to do real estate
Speaker 3: and now they both got money. If you have proximity
Speaker 3: to someone who's doing something that's tried and true, I actually,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, some of y'all needed to be
Speaker 3: taking more notes from Posha and less less jabs, right,
Speaker 3: because whatever she's doing with do You Like Her or Not?
Speaker 3: Has been working. I think I Drew clicked into her
Speaker 3: objective back because Drew used to be very emotional and
Speaker 3: said like her or loathe her. Whatever this bitch is doing,
Speaker 3: it's working. Let me take notes instead of taking jabs,
Speaker 3: and it's working out for her. This is probably one
Speaker 3: of the most emotionally stable seasons that I've seen of Drew.
Speaker 3: So call it fake or not, it's results, right. I
Speaker 3: think Drew decided to choose results over Mayhem because she
Speaker 3: got Kelly and her and everybody else negative. She was like,
Speaker 3: I don't need to Porsch on top of that, right, So,
Speaker 3: whether Drew is admiring Porsche or not, so what, I
Speaker 3: don't see the issue If somebody in the cars, if
Speaker 3: you're doing something that's working, I'm gonna follow suit. It
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that I'm up your ass and I want
Speaker 3: to wear a red shirt and show off my titties,
Speaker 3: although if I do, I want to raise. But it
Speaker 3: just means that I'm in proximity to somebody who's doing
Speaker 3: something that works. And the same way that I clapped
Speaker 3: for Shemiah and Kelly having each other's back when Kelly
Speaker 3: was going through that hardship, I actually don't like them
Speaker 3: making fun of Shemi and Kelly having each other's back.
Speaker 3: If my friend was down and out and I had
Speaker 3: her back and gave her a place to say, to me,
Speaker 3: that's admirable, that's not some to make fun of. So
Speaker 3: in the same way that I clipped for Shamiah and Kelly,
Speaker 3: in the way they have each other's back, I like
Speaker 3: that Drew has called a truth on Porsche because she's
Speaker 3: learning how to take notes from her and it's having
Speaker 3: a good season because of it. So I see no
Speaker 3: issue personally.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that when you don't like a motherfucker,
Speaker 7: anything they do will get on your nerves. So I
Speaker 7: think that if people have an issue with Drew and
Speaker 7: an issue with Porsche, or an issue with both of them,
Speaker 7: I think that their first jab is going to be, oh,
Speaker 7: she's trying to be like Porsche or something to that degree.
Speaker 7: So I'm not surprised. Now do I personally think that
Speaker 7: Blue I mean that I'm sorry. Do I personally think
Speaker 7: that Drew is trying to be like Porscha.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 7: I just think that Drew's pretty, Porscha's pretty. When they
Speaker 7: did the hair campaign, they look pretty. They probably use
Speaker 7: the same glam that day and there were similarities, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. I don't think she's trying to
Speaker 7: shadow Porsche. If anything, the similarities that we see are
Speaker 7: probably the threads that linked them together as friends.
Speaker 6: They into the same stuff. So like it makes sense.
Speaker 7: And but again, when you're in a battle with somebody,
Speaker 7: you expect them to say certain things. I would expect
Speaker 7: somebody to take that swipe the same way that people
Speaker 7: have taken swipes at Phaedra and Porsche's relationship at freaking Frank.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: If people have a problem with them, that's the first
Speaker 7: thing that they attacked, the sincerity or the authenticity of
Speaker 7: their connection.
Speaker 6: So that's it.
Speaker 7: That's all I think it is. And for the record,
Speaker 7: Drew looks good. She looks really good. Whatever she had done,
Speaker 7: she looks great.
Speaker 1: So Claudia, what was the question again in terms of
Speaker 1: when it comes to Drew. Kelly said that, you know,
Speaker 1: Drew got the Peace Special. You know, there's there's conversations
Speaker 1: that Drew Sidora is trying to look like Porsche got
Speaker 1: the body.
Speaker 2: Or go naked hair.
Speaker 5: I think everyone in Atlanta's trying to look like the
Speaker 5: Porsche type, and everyone in LA was trying to look
Speaker 5: like the Kim Kardashian type. Like that's just kind of
Speaker 5: like what it is everyone gets the same in size implants,
Speaker 5: the same liposuction size waste, and the same size ass,
Speaker 5: the same hair. They all have the wavy bundles twenty
Speaker 5: two twenty four inches sometimes.
Speaker 4: Twenty six, part in the middle eye pot baby.
Speaker 5: Hair that everyone has the same look like regardless, Like
Speaker 5: it's not just a Porscha thing. Like everyone kind of
Speaker 5: looks the same look insert any major reality TV star.
Speaker 5: For the most part, they all look to have the
Speaker 5: same like they all kind of start to like look
Speaker 5: like the same. So but yeah, I could see why
Speaker 5: Kelly would say something like that because just last year
Speaker 5: they were more odds and then now they are to
Speaker 5: get it. So of course that's like an easy jab
Speaker 5: to throw, Like you know, you all for ass now
Speaker 5: and you look and dislike her.
Speaker 4: I could see that.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, like doesn't said if you don't like someone,
Speaker 5: you're gonna that's a very easy jab to go to.
Speaker 4: I'm less concerned about the looks morphing into the same.
Speaker 5: I'm more about like the standing on business when that
Speaker 5: changes up on things like you know, and I'm all
Speaker 5: for people patching up old beefs and moving forward, but
Speaker 5: like you know, natural progression.
Speaker 4: Make it makes sense.
Speaker 5: We like that, like that's that's like that actually gives
Speaker 5: you a good example and a good thing to look
Speaker 5: at and gives it less like I think the way
Speaker 5: it happened, maybe we miss some stuff that was on camera.
Speaker 4: It almost came off as a little fake for some
Speaker 4: of the girls.
Speaker 5: I had all this smoked and all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: imagine all the years I don'ts with Amosa but then
Speaker 5: want to show together and it benefits me to kind
Speaker 5: of be on a good side, and all of a
Speaker 5: sudden I find the way back to being cool with her.
Speaker 4: You should sighe on me. I just I earned that.
Speaker 4: I deserve that.
Speaker 5: But if you I showed you all the conversations and
Speaker 5: how we actually got there, I think that is what
Speaker 5: people that are watching are missing. So it's easy to
Speaker 5: say these things, But I don't think that she's trying to.
Speaker 5: I think that looked that Poria has a lot of
Speaker 5: girls want that look.
Speaker 4: It's a good look.
Speaker 1: It is no she looks good.
Speaker 2: She looks good.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to Drew her and camera, sheell
Speaker 1: are getting into it over Black because at this point,
Speaker 1: you know she's talking about what a great person Black
Speaker 1: is she's saying that they did not have sex at all.
Speaker 1: Kim Michelle said that it's not the man to be
Speaker 1: in the kids life. They will be running from the police.
Speaker 1: She says, Black has taken advantage of black women and
Speaker 1: and has taken their money, which we have learned that,
Speaker 1: you know, there are allegations the Shade Root Investigates did
Speaker 1: a whole you know episode based on these allegations with
Speaker 1: Black Blue.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Drew is trying to.
Speaker 1: Walk back her relationship with Black because it did get messy.
Speaker 1: We did see them on a day together. He had
Speaker 1: an open shirt, exposed belly.
Speaker 2: Button in a platinum chain.
Speaker 1: He did buy the kids clothes, he did buy her flowers,
Speaker 1: and he did stand the phone for eight hours while
Speaker 1: they were on.
Speaker 3: Damn Well, how am I supposed to answered after you?
Speaker 1: I want to paint the picture for you child, because okay,
Speaker 1: a picture. I'm saying. Did she did she walk it back?
Speaker 1: Because this man is not under investigation?
Speaker 3: All girl said, did she stop acting like he was
Speaker 3: her man even though he bought her flowers and paid
Speaker 3: for her skids to go back to school? Well, here's
Speaker 3: the thing. Back back to school, My thing is this
Speaker 3: and I again, I don't want to feel like a
Speaker 3: Drew apologist. I just feel like we undersell her improvements.
Speaker 3: I think Drew is probably one of the most improved
Speaker 3: on the cast and people don't give her credit for
Speaker 3: that because I remember the days with Drew used to
Speaker 3: irk my nerves. So I'm just like, so happy that
Speaker 3: I can say nice things about he Drew. I'm very happy.
Speaker 3: I think that if Drew saw that this was not
Speaker 3: going off well and said, oh, pivot, that's what I
Speaker 3: would do, Dustin. If you introduced somebody to the cast
Speaker 3: and you had them way from behind you in the
Speaker 3: black Wall, and then a week later he was on TMZ,
Speaker 3: you'd be like, I don't know this man, what are
Speaker 3: you talking about?
Speaker 6: I've met him one like it makes it if at
Speaker 6: all you know behind me.
Speaker 3: So I think that because Drew was already cautious with
Speaker 3: good reason, with how she even introduced him, and then
Speaker 3: became more cautious as things got messy and Cay Michelle
Speaker 3: sorry yelling at the empty subway chair next to her.
Speaker 3: She was like, oh, this he's a trigger. Let's let's
Speaker 3: pull away from him. So, yes, if Drew is lying
Speaker 3: to us or keeping it to herself. Do more of
Speaker 3: that friend. It's a trap. I think anything around the
Speaker 3: word black at this point, we can't talk about the
Speaker 3: color black is a trap for Juice of Door. Avoid
Speaker 3: all things black next season, and if he's still around
Speaker 3: the season after that, then be like, by the way,
Speaker 3: we got married in the Poconos last year, and we
Speaker 3: didn't tell y'all a lot of us until this ship
Speaker 3: makes sense because when Shandreu starts investigating your nigga, it's
Speaker 3: time to take a time out.
Speaker 5: So Drew was an actress first, okay, reality saw Second,
Speaker 5: when you're an actress, you have to be very protective
Speaker 5: of your brand, and she's had a very long and
Speaker 5: she's probably had the longest brand of anyone on the show.
Speaker 5: If we want to keep it a buck, I know
Speaker 5: people don't like to give Drew her props what she has.
Speaker 5: She's like child star, right, so I'm I'm mad at her. Listen,
Speaker 5: if I bring a guy on the show and he
Speaker 5: sounds embarrassing me, I'm be like what man? If I
Speaker 5: bring a kid on the show and the kids are
Speaker 5: making me look bad?
Speaker 3: What kid?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Kids? Yes, kids are just.
Speaker 4: Jerks. Okay, not all I'm saying like they're just younger.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, she she has every right, Like you're damned
Speaker 5: if you're doing your damn if you don't, if you
Speaker 5: don't bring someone on, you ain't got no storyline. We
Speaker 5: need to see more in your life than you show
Speaker 5: a little bit you dip your toe in. And remember
Speaker 5: she just got divorced, y'all. The divorce just became final
Speaker 5: and she was dealing with a very How would you
Speaker 5: describe Ralph. I'm trying not to emasculate him, but he
Speaker 5: he was on her. Okay, he was on her body.
Speaker 5: So you know, you with with that, you're gonna have
Speaker 5: to like kind of tread really carefully with how much
Speaker 5: you really can show. So in this regard, I'm not
Speaker 5: mad if Jrew lies to us about whether or not
Speaker 5: she's been with a woman, whether or not she was
Speaker 5: really with Black, I would deny, deny, deny, because she
Speaker 5: kind of has no choice if you're going through and
Speaker 5: that goes for any woman that's going through a messy divorce.
Speaker 5: You don't owe us sneak peaks into your life if
Speaker 5: it's going to jeopardize your real case you.
Speaker 4: Got going on at the time. So I'm not mad
Speaker 4: at that. Now once y'all the divorce is final, which
Speaker 4: it is now, now next.
Speaker 1: Year, give it, Claudia, Claudia, I gotta keep you honest though, Okay,
Speaker 1: you didn't get that same great support show when she
Speaker 1: was going through her divorce with.
Speaker 4: Simon because I don't like her.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 4: Oh well, right, she answered the question, isn't that the
Speaker 4: narrative because I don't know?
Speaker 1: It's different though I know, no, no, that that may
Speaker 1: be the narrative to the outside world, but I know
Speaker 1: that I know that. Would it comes to you that
Speaker 1: that's not the case, right, I know?
Speaker 4: Let me let me clarify.
Speaker 5: I do feel a little bit differently because of how
Speaker 5: she got with her man, and I honestly feel like
Speaker 5: that that matters to me, and it's a I'm gonna admit,
Speaker 5: with my own issues that I've seen like in life
Speaker 5: and how I view people that go after or be
Speaker 5: with people's men, I do have less grace for women
Speaker 5: like that, and maybe that's something I need to work
Speaker 5: on in my life. But I honestly it's harder for
Speaker 5: me to like feel a way when I talk to
Speaker 5: the other person or I see what the other person
Speaker 5: went through, you know what I'm saying, Like, so it
Speaker 5: is harder for me to be like, oh, she's going
Speaker 5: through so much because I feel like someone is self imposed.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I have friends that I don't even talk to.
Speaker 5: Anymore that you know, their thing they love going after
Speaker 5: or being with men that were in relationships, and I
Speaker 5: don't respect women like that, So I have a hard
Speaker 5: time showing giving grace to those kind of scenarios. And
Speaker 5: even with them, I think I did even say something positive.
Speaker 5: I think run the tape back out, y'all gotta find
Speaker 5: it about their breakup because and I was happy about
Speaker 5: how she did in the end, because I do feel
Speaker 5: like he was trying to use her for her attention
Speaker 5: in her life. I really do think Simon was thirsty
Speaker 5: to get on anyone's with anyone because tu wah again,
Speaker 5: he was following everybody from the show, including me, So
Speaker 5: he was like out here trying to get with whoever.
Speaker 5: I think he could get with you, I think so
Speaker 5: I do think so.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, well, you go ahead, Dustin, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: what was please?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: This is thing for me, is this okay? Because I
Speaker 1: do want to have a real conversation. I love Drew.
Speaker 1: I agree Drew is probably the most accomplished if you
Speaker 1: go back to her being a child star when it
Speaker 1: comes to Drew though, me just being honest, right, this
Speaker 1: is this is how I feel, So there's no speaking
Speaker 1: with Weed. I do feel like when it came to Black,
Speaker 1: I do believe that was somebody she was definitely into.
Speaker 2: I think she definitely was attracted to him.
Speaker 1: Whether or not the consummated, that's not my business biding
Speaker 1: your choice, and I'm not here to clock the miles
Speaker 1: on your sang thing like, I don't care, But I
Speaker 1: do think it's plausible if I'm looking at it strictly
Speaker 1: as a viewer. I do think it's plausible for Cay
Speaker 1: Michelle to say that all of a sudden, you're walking
Speaker 1: back this relationship or this friendship just because he is
Speaker 1: hot in the news, because if you removed, if you
Speaker 1: removed what he's been accused of, right, let's remove all
Speaker 1: of that. I'm just not sure that Drew would proclaim
Speaker 1: that I have nothing to do with that guy. And
Speaker 1: the reason why I brought up the Porsche thing is
Speaker 1: because yes, I'm here for any woman or man going
Speaker 1: through divorce with kids. That's horrible. But I do feel
Speaker 1: like there's more grace being given and Drew than when
Speaker 1: Porsche was dealing with it, Because if we want to
Speaker 1: be technical, if we want to be technical, when Porsa
Speaker 1: God was Simon, his soon to be ex wife was
Speaker 1: already pregnant, I.
Speaker 7: Think they're two completely different I think they're two completely
Speaker 7: different situations, and I don't think they're comparable at all.
Speaker 7: I think that Porscha's circumstances were uniquely hers, and I
Speaker 7: think that Drew's circumstances of divorce are uniquely hers. And
Speaker 7: they're very, very different situations. So it's impossible to even
Speaker 7: compare the two. And I think that if we're discussing
Speaker 7: the way that people are reacting to the news of
Speaker 7: the marriage breaking down or whatever, it's definitely a different
Speaker 7: reaction because of the difference in the circumstances. There are
Speaker 7: a lot of questions and scrutiny around Porscha's marriage to
Speaker 7: Simon in the first damn place.
Speaker 6: People thought it was a misalignment. People questioned the authenticity of.
Speaker 7: Their connection, whereas with Drew, we were introduced to her
Speaker 7: on the show Married to Real. So it's like a
Speaker 7: sort of like a different situation, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: And then when you add in the nuances and the
Speaker 7: layers of you know, the palling of it all, and
Speaker 7: the dnis of it all, and the timeline of it all,
Speaker 7: I think that that feel or not. I'm not saying
Speaker 7: that in a negative way towards Porsche. I'm just saying
Speaker 7: circumstantially right, these are the things that have influenced the
Speaker 7: way that people reacted and responded to the union itself.
Speaker 7: So to me, it's totally different, and I think it's
Speaker 7: just a false comparison to even try to make in
Speaker 7: the first place.
Speaker 3: I think the reason the comparison and I love that
Speaker 3: you said that doesn't end though I love that Claudia
Speaker 3: was clear and honest about it. Just tastes different. When
Speaker 3: a woman feels like she took somebody's man, or she
Speaker 3: was part of a home wrecking situation, it naturally, whether
Speaker 3: it's true or not. Whether technically they had been broken
Speaker 3: up for months before I saw your interview, Portia said
Speaker 3: they were no longer a thing. When we started dming
Speaker 3: each other, there was no overlap, right, So it could
Speaker 3: be that in real life there was no overlap, but
Speaker 3: the perception that we saw a woman bring you into
Speaker 3: her home and she introduced her to her husband, and
Speaker 3: the next thing you know, you are with said husband.
Speaker 3: I think the shock of that is something that it's
Speaker 3: a bell you can't unring. So there's some of us
Speaker 3: who are gonna be willing to look past it and
Speaker 3: be like, oh, now that I've been presented with new facts,
Speaker 3: I can, you know, take the teeth out of it.
Speaker 3: And there are others who are like, no, you can't
Speaker 3: unring that bell. Now that I feel a way about her,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna always just kind of feel away about her.
Speaker 3: And so I think the difference lies in how much
Speaker 3: you're clinging to that that bad taste in your mouth.
Speaker 3: And I think both are valid. I think it's valid
Speaker 3: to get people new chances when they evolve, and I
Speaker 3: sto't think it's valid to be like, I don't fuck
Speaker 3: with her. I always say this, if you think you
Speaker 3: are allowed not to like people, people are allowed not
Speaker 3: to like you. Back.
Speaker 4: Look, there's plenty of people don't like me for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: I don't give a shit, y'all.
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna change your mind and whether I did
Speaker 5: the thing y'all think I did or did it, that's
Speaker 5: you're right.
Speaker 4: I do think it's a.
Speaker 5: Different situation because I don't it just it just I
Speaker 5: don't have as much empathy for it.
Speaker 4: I do recognize in someone's heartbroken.
Speaker 5: I didn't see it with that, and I'm glad that
Speaker 5: she got out of it unscathed, because I mean scamming
Speaker 5: the scammer is fantastic. I love that city girls up.
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at that, But like I think it's
Speaker 5: a different situation. Also because we also saw Drew kind
Speaker 5: of getting dragged by Ralph on camera.
Speaker 4: We never really saw that on the show with Simon
Speaker 4: on social media.
Speaker 5: He was being a little a little hoe on social media.
Speaker 5: But she won that, She won all those battles. I
Speaker 5: think it's easier to look at Drew it was more
Speaker 5: of a victim in this than it is at Porsche
Speaker 5: as a victim.
Speaker 4: It seems like Porscha is more in control of it.
Speaker 5: She came out on top, she got the house, she
Speaker 5: got everything, and she she she didn't get got you
Speaker 5: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: For Dennis, Claudia, You remember when we talked about Dennis,
Speaker 3: I think the Carlos a better comparison to kind of
Speaker 3: support and softness and grace that we're showing for Drew Show.
Speaker 3: When we talk about Porscha and Dennis. Oh, I definitely
Speaker 3: have Dennis her rouse if that makes sense. That makes sense.
Speaker 3: It's like when we talk about that, all of this,
Speaker 3: Claudia included Dawsome Bell, all of us we talked about that,
Speaker 3: it's in portion we all get soft and weepy, like, oh,
Speaker 3: the poor babies crying.
Speaker 5: I definitely had an empathy for her with that because
Speaker 5: I felt like that was a real situation and real
Speaker 5: feelings and really it looked like he really it looked
Speaker 5: like she was really hurt by that situation.
Speaker 4: And I don't care who it is, like that ain't cool.
Speaker 4: We don't like to see that. And it seemed like
Speaker 4: she still is able to hurt her well up until
Speaker 4: she got was way. So yeah, it's just different to me.
Speaker 2: Ralph.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, speaking of the house, what we did learn
Speaker 1: is reunion was that Kelly and Porsche get into it
Speaker 1: because when Andy was talking to Porsche about the house,
Speaker 1: she said that obviously the house is hers. Kelly referred
Speaker 1: to Porch's house as Simon's house. Porcha said, how you
Speaker 1: worried when you were asking MEA's house. Kelly said, I'm
Speaker 1: happy you're paying Simon's bills. Angela John and to defend
Speaker 1: it and Kelly said, how about you sell a house?
Speaker 1: Dustin By the way, I will say that I thought
Speaker 1: that exchange was super comedy, so much comedy in it.
Speaker 1: I loved it. The Sela House is the new When
Speaker 1: it came to me, Charlotton, Synthia, Denise Bailey, season Claudae
Speaker 1: was there. I thought the seller house was a funny thing.
Speaker 1: But what were your thoughts on that whole thing about?
Speaker 2: You know, the shade they were throwing about the houses.
Speaker 7: Every single person on those couches on their reunion showed
Speaker 7: up and did what they needed to do on that stage.
Speaker 7: This was an incredible reunion Part one. Nobody was dormant.
Speaker 7: People were speaking up and having something to say, and
Speaker 7: that back and forth between Kelly and Angela is just
Speaker 7: an example of why they need to be here for
Speaker 7: another season. The whole cast needs to come back, and
Speaker 7: being able to go back and forth with your cast
Speaker 7: mates is a currency as a real housewife, right Like
Speaker 7: if you're good at doing that, it makes for a
Speaker 7: much more exciting watch, and that's what we saw. It's
Speaker 7: one of them situations where it was, like the argument
Speaker 7: between Pinky and Angela, you don't give a damn.
Speaker 6: Who wins, because it's just good to watch.
Speaker 7: It's entertaining, So no matter who was your favorite on
Speaker 7: the cast, that was entertaining to watch, and so I
Speaker 7: loved it. They had me rolling the entire time. They're
Speaker 7: both funny as fuck. Kelly don't give a fuck will
Speaker 7: come out of her mouth or who she's directed it to.
Speaker 7: Angela is always prepared and ready with something to use
Speaker 7: in an argument, and I loved it.
Speaker 6: It was great. More please.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And in terms of Gary, blowog into you next.
Speaker 9: Gary allegedly, and I don't have all the details, but allegedly, allegedly,
Speaker 9: Gary is someone that sued Kelly allegedly and listed the
Speaker 9: things he provided for her, whether it's money or things
Speaker 9: as such.
Speaker 1: So that's who Gary was. It was something that happened
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's all alleged. I haven't
Speaker 1: fact checked it, but that is the word on the
Speaker 1: YouTube streets.
Speaker 3: Angela, I don't like this bone collective thing you're doing.
Speaker 3: Go back to being fun and ninny like I don't, okay,
Speaker 3: because I really like Angela having the most random receipts,
Speaker 3: like who are you talking to? Are you a a
Speaker 3: in a cold trench coat getting tea on? Anyways, I
Speaker 3: will say this, it is very clear that Real House
Speaker 3: of Atlanta is Andy Cohen super Bowl. He has favorites.
Speaker 3: This reunion is very clearly optically Andy Cohen's favorite. I
Speaker 3: always say this, He's in Messy Bitch Heaven. Whenever he's
Speaker 3: around the Real House was of Atlanta cast. He gets
Speaker 3: giddy about them, which is why somebody said a couple
Speaker 3: of days ago on Threads, if you say you watch
Speaker 3: Housewives of the franchises but you don't watch Atlanta and Potomac,
Speaker 3: that says something about you. It rhymes with bassists, Yes,
Speaker 3: because I do think those shows. I think the Black
Speaker 3: Girls are the standard for the entire franchise, like all
Speaker 3: of it. They are peak reading. I think all Housewives,
Speaker 3: whether you are in Utah, Miami, or somewhere in London, child,
Speaker 3: you need to study these Atlanta reunions because they are iconic.
Speaker 3: Many of these moments are considered like the Mount Rushmore
Speaker 3: of like reality to be moments and have been produced
Speaker 3: by Carlos King. Shout out to your friends. But like
Speaker 3: these are these are like reality stars with like caplocks
Speaker 3: on I Love Love Love. Kay Michelle admitted what Portia
Speaker 3: said to you in the interview that she wished she
Speaker 3: had played it differently more for herself. I have been
Speaker 3: praying that kay Michelle would have that revelation because I
Speaker 3: think they we're seeing now and hoping to see in
Speaker 3: the future is because I finally clicked. Girls, go see
Speaker 3: for yourself. Don't let anybody tell you. Go see for
Speaker 3: yourself how you feel about everybody. Don't walk in with
Speaker 3: these storylines and these puppets stories like in your head.
Speaker 3: And if I think what it's gonna happen is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I can see kay Michelle and Porschia having this interesting friendship.
Speaker 3: Were there two adversaries who are cute but are not
Speaker 3: above you know, it's almost like Angela and Porsche. Angela
Speaker 3: and Porsche had a nice, nasty truce where they were
Speaker 3: gonna keep it cute, but you know that if anybody
Speaker 3: acted a fool, it could be on and popping. Angela,
Speaker 3: you are an amazing reader. I want you to read
Speaker 3: more and investigate less because your investigations are feeling slightly
Speaker 3: chante is. Your investigations are not all They're not all
Speaker 3: sticking the land and you're not landing the plane. The
Speaker 3: plane is circling guitarmac.
Speaker 5: Sometimes that plan and the plane is delayed a late
Speaker 5: for takeoff.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to get a credit from the BALLA.
Speaker 3: Can not land right.
Speaker 4: Around for two hours.
Speaker 3: Angel, You're better than that. Your reads are your strong point.
Speaker 3: If I have to give you any advice, focus on
Speaker 3: you're in the moment reads and less on running investigations
Speaker 3: on random girls who are not even checking for you
Speaker 3: because they fighting their lies with her husbands.
Speaker 2: I have to agree, Cloud, I'm gonna get to you next.
Speaker 1: I have to agree. Listen the Portion and Kelly thing
Speaker 1: I thought was a fun sparring moment between those two
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 2: I can watch Portion and Kelly argue all season long.
Speaker 1: Is there's something comical about it because Kelly, who's four
Speaker 1: foot nine, really doesn't give a fuck, and you could
Speaker 1: tell she's not scared.
Speaker 2: She was the line leader in kindergarten.
Speaker 1: So to have that level of strength and confidence and tenacity.
Speaker 1: I love it, I will say, and this will be unpopular,
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with it. I love Angela Oakley down
Speaker 1: to the ground. Everyone knows that. To me, she was
Speaker 1: best dressed at the reunion. I was surprised to see
Speaker 1: how much she not just chimed in, which I think
Speaker 1: is there's a balance, So that's fine to like chime
Speaker 1: in to get your licks. But the Gary thing, I'm
Speaker 1: with Blue one. I didn't feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people were talking about it but me and Blue and
Speaker 1: Claudia and does don't get to y'all next? I walked
Speaker 1: away from that, like, who is Gary? And why are
Speaker 1: we doing the Mary J.
Speaker 2: Bloche video?
Speaker 1: Not gonna cry with the black glasses, the black robe
Speaker 1: and everything. And you're investigating, and you're hiding, You're in disguise,
Speaker 1: you're walking to the neighbor's house, you're in disguise going
Speaker 1: to publics, you're hiding in the aisle, you're putting trackers
Speaker 1: on people cars like you. Literally, she reminds me of
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say itch housewife, but somebody I've worked
Speaker 1: with in Jersey who spent their days.
Speaker 2: Online looking up another housewife.
Speaker 1: And that's why when I look at the totality of
Speaker 1: what Angela reads include it's always something where the audience like, well,
Speaker 1: who the fuck is that? Who is the woman in
Speaker 1: Pinky's basement?
Speaker 3: Is she the you know?
Speaker 1: But Sarah like who is she? Is she part of
Speaker 1: like the nursery? Like is she doing something? Who's that person?
Speaker 1: Then we have the man and whatever the named.
Speaker 2: George with Shamiyah. Now we have Gary like these are
Speaker 2: things that weren't on the show.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I feel bad for Angela because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a buck is because last season,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the audience was on your side
Speaker 1: when that man came out of nowhere to try to
Speaker 1: say that your husband was having an affair. We all
Speaker 1: was on your side with that, like what is this?
Speaker 1: And we were all on your side when you investigated
Speaker 1: what happened. I don't understand why you would then your
Speaker 1: second season do that to these other women. You're no
Speaker 1: better than what that guy did to you if you
Speaker 1: continue like this, and my advice to you, as someone
Speaker 1: who loves you is cut the shit.
Speaker 2: It's not becoming of you. You are better than that.
Speaker 1: And what I want to see from Angela next season,
Speaker 1: I want to see her in the rooms. I want
Speaker 1: to be in the rooms with her. I want to
Speaker 1: see you and Charles. I don't want to see your
Speaker 1: reads be I don't want to see your reads include
Speaker 1: things about these women that you found out paying seven
Speaker 1: dollars and not denied cents on legal Zoom and Lexus Nexus.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not cute.
Speaker 4: I agree with y'all. I this pains me to say
Speaker 4: about someone I like, but I have to love Angela.
Speaker 5: You are going out bad and what I love about
Speaker 5: you and we could all get behind you. You were
Speaker 5: principled in your reads, and let me explain, by the
Speaker 5: same principle in your reads, we could get behind you
Speaker 5: because they were justified. We knew why you were mad
Speaker 5: at Pee for a while because she says you fuck
Speaker 5: your husband.
Speaker 4: Whether it wasn't just or not, that makes sense to us.
Speaker 4: We knew when you had.
Speaker 5: You were reading other people down. I can't think of
Speaker 5: some of the other ones. But it wasn't just out
Speaker 5: of the blue. We knew, Oh, we knew all you
Speaker 5: and Phased were into because Fhasia was saying stuff about
Speaker 5: your man and we were like, wait, where did this
Speaker 5: smoke come from?
Speaker 4: So we could get behind that. I can't get behind
Speaker 4: what you're doing now, it seems like you're doing the
Speaker 4: dirty work for others. Now whether it' not, it just
Speaker 4: feel like that.
Speaker 5: And you are too dope of a household if you're
Speaker 5: on the best additions to see this franchise has made
Speaker 5: in a decade.
Speaker 4: Okay you are. You don't need to do this.
Speaker 5: It's coming off as you're doing the dirty work for Portia,
Speaker 5: for others, like these beasts you have like you and
Speaker 5: Chamia that should need that should have been a lunch
Speaker 5: cleaned up and and Shamia you helped up with the
Speaker 5: two because when y'all sat down, you was popping off too.
Speaker 5: Y'all both need to like bite your tongues for like
Speaker 5: one lunch, shut the fuck up for one lunch, and
Speaker 5: don't pop off. Don't be so quick to do for
Speaker 5: the cameras, act like the camera's not there, and just
Speaker 5: talk because I think if y'all do you realize there's
Speaker 5: really nothing really there for y'all to be really fighting
Speaker 5: over and all this investigative bad reporting that's not that
Speaker 5: that's flopping. You are way dope on this, Angela, and
Speaker 5: I want to see you come back next year like
Speaker 5: last year. Be that queen you are in the rooms,
Speaker 5: you got, the husband, you got, the everything.
Speaker 4: You dope as hell.
Speaker 5: You don't need to do this, and these two scandals
Speaker 5: are like taking down your queue, your TVQ. It is
Speaker 5: you was killing it before. And that's the only criticism
Speaker 5: I can give you is that you don't need to
Speaker 5: fight these battles. And you on that side of the
Speaker 5: couch and you chiming in on things that have nothing
Speaker 5: to do with you. It's helping, it's actually it's kind
Speaker 5: of validifying what I'm saying right now.
Speaker 4: You don't need to do that.
Speaker 5: Sit there until the beef it comes into your lap,
Speaker 5: Like you don't need to jump into every single argument
Speaker 5: because it's taken away from your greatness. Honestly, Angela, you
Speaker 5: don't need to do this, Like I was trying to understand,
Speaker 5: like why are you jumping in on this, Like we're
Speaker 5: gonna get to you and you dope within that, Angela,
Speaker 5: you really really are.
Speaker 4: Please, I hope you don't take this on Shade.
Speaker 5: It's not but you don't need to do what you're doing,
Speaker 5: Like it's I'm seeing the comments that people are agreeing.
Speaker 4: They're like they don't like this, they don't.
Speaker 7: Listen players make mistake. Okay, shit happened now that they do,
Speaker 7: and it's okay. You know, Angela has overplayed her hand
Speaker 7: when it comes to the rumor sharing. But I think
Speaker 7: Angela contributes so much goodness to this show that people
Speaker 7: are focusing on that because it is it is obtuse
Speaker 7: of the goodness that she has contributed to the show.
Speaker 7: So I think that's why it's getting so much attention.
Speaker 7: But to me, she's not doing anything different than anybody
Speaker 7: else's on them on that stage. Her bringing a rumor
Speaker 7: to the show was kind of similar to when they
Speaker 7: had to sit down. Remember the really dope scene at
Speaker 7: the beginning of the season when Porsche and Kay, Michelle
Speaker 7: and Kelly sat down to have tea. Kelly had the
Speaker 7: scarf on her head and Porsche brought the allegation about
Speaker 7: Kelly sleeping with a married man to the show that
Speaker 7: was never really substantiated. I wasn't mad at Porsche for that,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean saying. I didn't feel like
Speaker 7: Porschia had gone too far and was, you know, fucking
Speaker 7: up the show or whatever. So like, I just think
Speaker 7: in Angela's case, she's new. I think that we don't
Speaker 7: know her as well as we know some of the
Speaker 7: other members of the cast, and so things like this
Speaker 7: are we're used, We're rightfully using examples of her decision
Speaker 7: making to kind of determine, you know, her character, I guess.
Speaker 7: But to me, the things that she's doing are just
Speaker 7: not egregious or not serious enough to now don't feel
Speaker 7: like she's not doing a good job on the show
Speaker 7: or she's in danger of, you know, losing her spot
Speaker 7: on the show. I just think, you know, she overplayed
Speaker 7: her hand and gave us something to talk about her
Speaker 7: and Porscha pieced it up. Her and Phaser have pieced
Speaker 7: it up. She'll do the same with the other ladies
Speaker 7: as well, and Angela will continue to add comedic value.
Speaker 7: She's a tall, pretty woman with a huge, interesting family
Speaker 7: that's only going to get more interesting as her kids
Speaker 7: get older and have more definitive perspectives on shit.
Speaker 6: And I like Angela. So even though she did some
Speaker 6: ship that was stupid, and we gonna call it.
Speaker 7: What it is, it was some stupid shit bringing these
Speaker 7: unstantiated rumors to the show, Angela is still a great
Speaker 7: addition on this cast to me, and I want to
Speaker 7: avoid my commentary on her skewing toward me devaluing her
Speaker 7: as a cast member because you know, the lies were stupid.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, because I felt like all
Speaker 7: of them be telling stupid ass lies on the show.
Speaker 7: So for me personally, I'm just keeping her like at
Speaker 7: a certain place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think she's any jeopardy of being devalued
Speaker 5: because even with the mistake, she's still one of the
Speaker 5: dopest housewives.
Speaker 6: That's how I feel too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what Dustin highlight is that she's a rookie. Though
Speaker 3: I think what I like about what this is he's
Speaker 3: reminding us Angela is so good. We do forget that
Speaker 3: she's a rookie, and so we're thinking about her as
Speaker 3: a more seasoned house castmate. But to your point, this
Speaker 3: is only her second year. Until you said that, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh wow, this is only her secondar is
Speaker 3: a rookie, and because she's so good, I think we
Speaker 3: kind of I forgot that for a second.
Speaker 2: I don't forget it.
Speaker 3: The thing is.
Speaker 1: No, it is not it's not saying no, no, We're
Speaker 1: gonna keep it real. I listen, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us are saying.
Speaker 2: She's less value.
Speaker 1: I literally think she still is one of the best
Speaker 1: castings ever, not ever in the past couple of years.
Speaker 2: And I stand by that.
Speaker 1: I I think what we're saying is, before you think
Speaker 1: this is cute, you wrong, road Angela wrong, You're better
Speaker 1: than this. Listen, I'm hard on Pinky and that is
Speaker 1: our first season, right. So I's the thing with Angela
Speaker 1: is this. My concern with Angela is what happens with
Speaker 1: breakout stars of shows. And trust me, I've seen my
Speaker 1: share of breakout stars that let me be cute, who
Speaker 1: don't who don't have anything to show for it.
Speaker 6: I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: And my concern for Angela that I want to nip
Speaker 1: in the butt now because I'm aware that they all watch.
Speaker 2: And my what I'm saying to you through the screen and.
Speaker 6: Love is.
Speaker 1: You don't need this, like we loved the reason why
Speaker 1: we loved Angela and I remember Blue. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you was with us when she first started, but
Speaker 1: the three of us meet Claudia and Dustin, we all
Speaker 1: said collectively how Angela was a sleeper hit, like she
Speaker 1: was somebody who did not we did not see until
Speaker 1: episode six when her and Brick got into it, and
Speaker 1: she said, you know they got every were like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: it came out of nowhere. I think what Angela has
Speaker 1: to understand. And Claudia to me said, this is beautifully
Speaker 1: is you don't have to chime in all the time,
Speaker 1: like there's something so regal and beautiful about you and
Speaker 1: and smart and witty like Cynthia.
Speaker 3: Bailey chooses her moments.
Speaker 1: Yes, at least yeah, my listen, the queen of this
Speaker 1: of the franchise. You can say what you want about
Speaker 1: Nini leads. Anybody who's watched for unions asked dust the
Speaker 1: right Nini sits there till you attack her. When when
Speaker 1: Marlowe got into it with Kim Zosi, Nini said there
Speaker 1: and laughed. When Marlowe and Candy got into it, Nini
Speaker 1: said there she didn't jump in and said, yeah, bitch, no,
Speaker 1: so I see each other. Yeah, like Nini doesn't. Nini
Speaker 1: is don't start and I gonna be none. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit there until I get you. And Angela to me
Speaker 1: has the Ninnie Kim Charae value with her, which is
Speaker 1: you don't have to interject all the time. If anything,
Speaker 1: it makes it look like you're thirsty for attention and
Speaker 1: you're much better than that. So look like Dustin said,
Speaker 1: it's a rookie mistake, she's a rookie. Look, no, shade,
Speaker 1: this is like easy, it's an easy fix. Yes, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be I wouldn't be Carlos King if I did
Speaker 1: not say anything that can help you have staying power
Speaker 1: on this show, because there's tons of girls who aren't
Speaker 1: on the Land of Housewives anymore that did not live
Speaker 1: up to their expectations.
Speaker 2: So I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 5: It's fair to be fair and not just give the
Speaker 5: smoke to one person. Also, I understand why sometimes Angel
Speaker 5: might jump in because her marriage is often under attack.
Speaker 4: A lot, so SA love you down as well. No,
Speaker 4: maybe stop with the jabs to Charles as well.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because then if someone's doing
Speaker 5: that with me, I'm gonna probably jump in when my
Speaker 5: opinion isn't needed either, because I'm like, I'm still mad
Speaker 5: at what you said two weekends ago.
Speaker 4: So I just feel like they jumping in sometimes.
Speaker 5: Like I do like the Ninne Leaks model of waiting
Speaker 5: till the smoke is actually to you to really save
Speaker 5: your save your bullets for when it comes your way,
Speaker 5: then you can like shoot.
Speaker 4: Them down more efforlessly.
Speaker 5: And uh, I think we're only giving this harsher criticism
Speaker 5: because we see the greatness in you. It ain't like
Speaker 5: you're just you know, It's like, if you're coaching someone
Speaker 5: that has potential to win the championship, you're gonna be
Speaker 5: harder on them than someone that you know is just
Speaker 5: gonna be in a practice squad.
Speaker 4: You're not a practice squad. You star materials.
Speaker 3: We were rooting for you, Angela stopping in Perspected Gadget.
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you guys surprised that Faeder and Porsche both
Speaker 1: dated Mike and Andy? You could tell it was a
Speaker 1: bit of nooy that this wasn't a topic of conversation
Speaker 1: on the show to get paid for, But Padre said
Speaker 1: that her and Porter spoke about it. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: big deal. Claudie, wet.
Speaker 4: Don't go to me all this one?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 4: Am I surprise?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, m c K is a small place.
Speaker 10: You found My f c K was next to Pasta
Speaker 10: and the scammer. Claudia smoking, I want be I t
Speaker 10: man all the give y'all, go ahead, y'all.
Speaker 4: My opinion on the churchy girls.
Speaker 3: I mean, did they find him in the same back
Speaker 3: page the same like, call Mike's not real, He's not real? Like,
Speaker 3: what are we doing? We're talking about figments of our imagination.
Speaker 3: Mike wanted to get some extra lines on his IMDb page,
Speaker 3: much like the people that you did for your charity.
Speaker 3: When claud was talking about to make a wish last week,
Speaker 3: gave his brother a chance to add Brabo to his page.
Speaker 3: What are we talking about?
Speaker 5: You shouldn't even put like your reality to appearances if
Speaker 5: it's like a five and under.
Speaker 3: That's why he said, I love you to get the extra. True, Claudia,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing I'm not getting paid to act. How
Speaker 3: about that, I'm not getting paid to act on the show? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Mike is not real. Fact that that Porsche and and
Speaker 3: Faeder both auditioned them.
Speaker 5: Who it is my world though, I mean, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of cross pollination down in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 8: If this pass around Atlanta, around Atlanta is a guardian
Speaker 8: with a whole bunch of flowers and pollen, and these
Speaker 8: ladies are the bees, and there's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Cross pollination going on.
Speaker 5: And that's so it's very It's like a big college campus,
Speaker 5: like everybody, everybody.
Speaker 3: We're condoms, y'all. That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1: We're kindom the wrong.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I really didn't give a ship, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I once I found out, I had forgotten what he
Speaker 7: even looked like until they did the flashback, So I
Speaker 7: really didn't care.
Speaker 6: And I don't think neither one of them care either.
Speaker 7: Porscha moved on, Phaser didn't even want us to know,
Speaker 7: So I don't even I'm not even I have nothing
Speaker 7: for it, like literally nothing. I really don't give a fuck,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I hope that don't sound harsh,
Speaker 7: but I'm just saying, like I it was a blip
Speaker 7: in an amazing reunion, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 7: I doubt that a lot of people on that stage
Speaker 7: are honest about their romantic pasts.
Speaker 6: So for me, it was just like, Okay, somebody was,
Speaker 6: you know, not being upfront about who they kicked it with.
Speaker 5: Shot you know what, Like, yeah, I know for a fact,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of deek and pout sharing amongst the
Speaker 5: reality girls.
Speaker 3: And go with the w.
Speaker 6: Do your Hands Again? Blue is what.
Speaker 5: And Deek sharing amongst the reality there's there's different franchises
Speaker 5: I'd be crossing over.
Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of that.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of the boys with the girls with
Speaker 5: the girls and the girls and the boys. There's a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of it going on Atlanta. Atlanta's a very
Speaker 5: it's a one big college campus.
Speaker 4: That's what it's like.
Speaker 7: It's been on the HBCU and guess what else, And
Speaker 7: guess what else that's happening in New York. That's happening
Speaker 7: in l A, Chicago, that's happening in Houston, anywhere. There
Speaker 7: are going to be certain groups of people that mingle
Speaker 7: with each other based on whatever reason. It's like, it's
Speaker 7: why why you end up in this, Like how Angela said,
Speaker 7: we'd be in the rooms. You know when you're when
Speaker 7: you're in the rooms, those are the people that are
Speaker 7: going to date. And unfortunately that pool becomes small very quickly,
Speaker 7: and so here we are.
Speaker 4: I'm just surprised, akh I ain't part of the deep sharing.
Speaker 4: I ain't sharing a deac.
Speaker 6: In a while?
Speaker 1: Whoa in a while?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 4: You sharing? Not sharing?
Speaker 3: But Claudia proud of I'm proud of not the ones
Speaker 3: you were ashamed of.
Speaker 4: Uh no, let me think about this, because people only
Speaker 4: be knowing like who they've been.
Speaker 3: With, Like you know, La, New York, Atlanta, Miami and
Speaker 3: different parts of Texas have a change program.
Speaker 6: Ye and London put London in there too, Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, hurrah, London, London got got them them the peaces
Speaker 4: in London.
Speaker 3: Somebody waiting my time in London, and my homegirl in
Speaker 3: l A said, oh, he'd be right for you. It's
Speaker 3: a girl I'm already at the whole house and the
Speaker 3: game ship.
Speaker 1: But like, no, it's already.
Speaker 4: Attractive of half Nigerian half. Hello, Anthony Joshua. I'll be
Speaker 4: askings what whoever you got?
Speaker 3: Wait? Commercials?
Speaker 4: Wait my sister?
Speaker 3: Oh what she's doing to Eskimo kids? For those who
Speaker 3: are slow, it's not Penis, because that's some of y'all
Speaker 3: are slow. It was the Noses.
Speaker 4: I care not.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. Okay.
Speaker 11: So the thing is this, ky Michelle did take that
Speaker 11: opportunity to tell Porsche that that's why she was mad
Speaker 11: at her in the beginning because they both dated the
Speaker 11: same guy.
Speaker 1: They flashed back to.
Speaker 2: Knock Nash, I think that's his name, Na.
Speaker 1: And Cay Michelle said that she just expected Porscha to
Speaker 1: tell her this because he was saying how he knew
Speaker 1: Porsche was still talking. Portia said, you are a married woman.
Speaker 1: Why would I tell you who I dated when you
Speaker 1: are married?
Speaker 2: Johnson?
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: And I also think that Kay Michelle likes to take
Speaker 7: ownership of situations in a way where that would make
Speaker 7: something like that an issue. And I just wish that
Speaker 7: they would have talked it out on the show. I
Speaker 7: was glad they get talked it out on a surface level.
Speaker 7: They didn't really dig into that, but I was glad
Speaker 7: that they addressed it and we got a chance to
Speaker 7: see them actually talk about it.
Speaker 6: But I did think that the attachment of it was
Speaker 6: kind of odd and stuff.
Speaker 7: But you know, people have different relationship configurations, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So like her and her husband have
Speaker 7: already said that they have a non traditional like coupling,
Speaker 7: which I think is dope if it works for you,
Speaker 7: And so maybe that would be why it matters to her,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Because certain types of communication
Speaker 7: are still an option for her. I was struggling with
Speaker 7: finding the reason why it even mattered to her. I
Speaker 7: don't give a shit. I'm married, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: and moved on or whatever.
Speaker 6: But it does matter to her, and I.
Speaker 7: Know that they have open lines of communication with like
Speaker 7: you know, they can be friends with the exisi shit
Speaker 7: in her marriage, according to what she said in interviews,
Speaker 7: And again, I think that's super dope if that works
Speaker 7: for them. So, you know, I did think it was
Speaker 7: interesting that she cared as much as she did about them.
Speaker 1: Blue, What did you think about that? Do you think
Speaker 1: because Key Michelle Difreville that she would not leave her
Speaker 1: husband for cheating, she does not want to less some strokes.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna throw away her marriage.
Speaker 1: Do you think like Dustin is saying that that revelation
Speaker 1: coupled with her not her expecting to inform her that
Speaker 1: they dated the same guy that she said admitted that
Speaker 1: he was still a communication with Porsche. Was that paranoia
Speaker 1: or was it something to do with the fact that
Speaker 1: this marriage is very unique in their standards.
Speaker 3: Some strokes why not be enough to end the marriage
Speaker 3: if you have an open arrangement that's consentual. The clap
Speaker 3: will though I hope everybody's being saved.
Speaker 10: It's a lot of scared about the clapp but I
Speaker 10: just want everybody to be safe out there in Atlanta, Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I'll say this that back and forth between Porsche and
Speaker 3: k Michelle was one of my favorite parts of the reunion.
Speaker 3: It very much gave me Dustin Ross making fun of people.
Speaker 3: When Portia imitated Kmochelle's voice, chefs sound like Burton Ernie,
Speaker 3: I said, and was like, you do sound like me?
Speaker 3: That was That's the one. That's the relationship that we
Speaker 3: were robbed of that I'm hoping we get to see
Speaker 3: next season. So for me, I love that moment because
Speaker 3: it was Kay finally understanding the game and again k
Speaker 3: Michelle making that beautiful speech that they've now used as
Speaker 3: the voiceover as if she's my fucking Angelo on every
Speaker 3: montage they have, but that great speech she made about
Speaker 3: I walked in not knowing what to expect. That I
Speaker 3: found this woman that I respected more than I expected.
Speaker 3: These women who get up every day, feed their families,
Speaker 3: boss ass bitches and still look good and know how
Speaker 3: to teach me how to tussle. I think there's a
Speaker 3: hard earned respect that ky Michelle has from fucking up
Speaker 3: the first sixteen or so episodes where I think she
Speaker 3: now understands and appreciates the veterans and you know this
Speaker 3: woman where Porscha says, I don't interview like you hos. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm a vet. I don't make them rooky mistakes. When
Speaker 3: I saw Carlos come to my house and it's my
Speaker 3: actual house, like she was very clear, I've learned how
Speaker 3: to play the game call take notes. I feel like
Speaker 3: I got a shout out Loki in that moment, and
Speaker 3: I was, Okay, you gotta shout out friend, And I
Speaker 3: think k Michelle finally understands it and respects it and
Speaker 3: the fact that Portia can. She was like, well, did
Speaker 3: that hurt your feelings? No, it did hurt my feelings, bitch,
Speaker 3: But still, why'd you say it? I love that give
Speaker 3: and take. So I hope this friendship, this friend of me,
Speaker 3: even if their adversaries. I like that. Funny enough, ky
Speaker 3: Michelle is learning from Kelly how to talk to Porsche.
Speaker 3: She's seeing Kelly at fort nine, but like, but I
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck how big you are? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: said that you know what I mean, and I think
Speaker 3: Kay Michelle having that same sense of humor. I love it.
Speaker 3: I want more of that.
Speaker 2: Give me fourteen more, Claudia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like they want to like each other,
Speaker 5: but there's like a few like we gotta like, uh
Speaker 5: you know, clear some shit out first, because it seemed
Speaker 5: like from the beginning they like they were looking forward
Speaker 5: to being around each other. It does feel like Porsche
Speaker 5: has a little bit more respect for Kay Mischelle, whether
Speaker 5: it's fear or whatever it is, or I just don't
Speaker 5: want to fight with you as much as the other girls.
Speaker 5: You can tell that they really want to be friends.
Speaker 5: As far as the whole thing with uh Nache, you
Speaker 5: can be married and still give a damn.
Speaker 4: It's really not about the man. It's about the girl code, right.
Speaker 5: I found myself in a simile situation where I was
Speaker 5: in a happy relationship with with kJ Action. My first
Speaker 5: moved here, and there's a girl I was getting to
Speaker 5: know that I really liked her, like she was cool
Speaker 5: as hell and I'm like rocks with her, But she
Speaker 5: went behind my back and slept with someone that I
Speaker 5: dated right before I left La that we already had
Speaker 5: a conversation that I dated him before.
Speaker 4: Was he the love of my life? No, he was not,
Speaker 4: But you asked about him. I told you I dated
Speaker 4: him when I lived in la.
Speaker 5: And then within a few months of our friendship, you're
Speaker 5: running over they give him the ass.
Speaker 3: So how'd you find out? Though? How'd you find out?
Speaker 5: Without saying too much because some people might be watching
Speaker 5: and we're actually squashed it now.
Speaker 4: It took us years.
Speaker 5: We were all at an event together and she used
Speaker 5: my name for the gift bag and for the past,
Speaker 5: and then they both were at the event and she
Speaker 5: left and went and fucked them right.
Speaker 4: So I went to the event with my boyfriend the time.
Speaker 5: So I was torn between Okay, I can't be too
Speaker 5: pressed because I'm in a relationship, but it was less
Speaker 5: about the guy. It really wasn't It was less about
Speaker 5: the guy. It was more about I'm building a friendship
Speaker 5: with you, and I would just like the heads up.
Speaker 5: You can still do what you do, but like the
Speaker 5: respecting of I don't want her in him having pillow
Speaker 5: talk and my name is brought up, Well, you know
Speaker 5: I used to it.
Speaker 4: You know I don't want none of that.
Speaker 5: I would like the person that I'm hoping to build
Speaker 5: my friendship with, or someone to just give me a
Speaker 5: heads up. So I think that doesn't mean you're pressed
Speaker 5: about the guy. I think there's a world where I could.
Speaker 5: I do think k be very emotional about certain things,
Speaker 5: but like I do understand the nuance of still just
Speaker 5: the heads up would be nice. I'm not saying no,
Speaker 5: you can't mess them, because who might have say that.
Speaker 5: I'm in a relationship, but you know we are building
Speaker 5: our relationship. Just I don't want the guy I used
Speaker 5: to funk with with, you know, smashing a girl my
Speaker 5: new friend's circle without me being me being in the
Speaker 5: dark about it.
Speaker 4: So I get that, Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I know I went around the block a couple of
Speaker 4: times and I.
Speaker 1: Think this, I think, and this happened towards the end
Speaker 1: I'm bringing back. I think, Hey, Michelle wanting Porsa taw
Speaker 1: her that to me, was based on whatever this guy
Speaker 1: allegedly was telling her that he heard from portshot right,
Speaker 1: And that's why I appreciated Andy saying you have to
Speaker 1: live your life for the cameras and not for behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, because that, to me, will be my only
Speaker 1: note to cay Michelle as her friend as somebody who
Speaker 1: loves her. Like all of that is causing confusion because
Speaker 1: even the tweets and all that stuff, it did make
Speaker 1: things weird. So like even in this moment, So because
Speaker 1: I'll address the elephant in the room, So came Michelle
Speaker 1: obviously watched.
Speaker 2: My interview with the Porsche, right, let me not.
Speaker 1: Let me not say that, because I don't want to
Speaker 1: make it seem like she watched the whole thing. Maybe
Speaker 1: she saw a clip, so let me just say that.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I did ask Porsche about ky Michelle.
Speaker 1: So at the reunion Cay, Michelle said that I was
Speaker 1: asking her questions to lead her in a direction as
Speaker 1: if she was coming her. And what I want to
Speaker 1: say about that is number one, my job is to
Speaker 1: ask questions, period, right, That's the job of a interviewer.
Speaker 1: I asked questions to everybody when it came to Came
Speaker 1: and Shechelle very specifically in this moment. It was about
Speaker 1: the miscarriage comment that happened.
Speaker 2: On the show.
Speaker 1: I interviewed Porsche on a Friday. That episode aired on
Speaker 1: a Sunday. I was also allowed to get the advanced
Speaker 1: episode in time for the Friday interview because it dropped
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so I was able to see things. When
Speaker 1: I referenced came Michelle's tweet came. Michelle's tweet was about
Speaker 1: the episode. I wasn't saying that came. Michelle was going
Speaker 1: in on Porsche in the sense of going extending it.
Speaker 1: I said she doubled down on a meeting what she
Speaker 1: saw on the episode that y'all squashed. She still gave
Speaker 1: reason why she felt that way. That was me saying
Speaker 1: she doubled Now, whether or not it's a game of.
Speaker 2: Semantics, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: My intention was not to lead Porsche in a way
Speaker 1: to comfort Ky Michelle. That makes no sense. So when
Speaker 1: Porsche said no one can lead me in an interview
Speaker 1: like you knew girls, I mean, that's funny. But I
Speaker 1: do want to say, for the record, number one, this
Speaker 1: is me and Kimi shall have no issue.
Speaker 2: We have no beef. That's my sister. We've done two
Speaker 2: shows together. I love her dearly.
Speaker 1: I respect how she felt that that's how she felt.
Speaker 1: Who Amanas said you were wrong, She's not wrong. That's
Speaker 1: how she felt. What I want to say, for the
Speaker 1: record is in Porsche's defense, just like in Shudn'tia's defense,
Speaker 1: Like in Kelly's defense, you don't have to answer my question.
Speaker 1: But I don't owe anybody except my audience the right
Speaker 1: to ask a question days on what has been happening
Speaker 1: on the show and based on what you guys say
Speaker 1: on social media and basically tweet's job. Right now, what
Speaker 1: I will say is, and the three of us, I
Speaker 1: mean the four of us, excuse me, I think this
Speaker 1: is something we can all agree on. Right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take this step further. And this part for the record,
Speaker 1: rain drops and people who clip my content. This is
Speaker 1: not about ky Michelle, So do not make this about her.
Speaker 1: And ky Michelle when they send this to you saying
Speaker 1: I'm coming for you, I'm saying now this has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with you.
Speaker 2: That's number one.
Speaker 1: What I will say is, I do find that when
Speaker 1: black content creators, podcasters, journalists, or hosts do the same
Speaker 1: job as our Icana parts, we get labeled the messy
Speaker 1: definition more than our Icona parts do, yep. And that
Speaker 1: to me is something that I do want people to understand.
Speaker 1: We have to get rid of that, right, We have
Speaker 1: to get rid of it, because that shouldn't even in
Speaker 1: my opinion, all of what I do on my interviews
Speaker 1: is a privilege because I'm giving y'all shows the eyeballs
Speaker 1: that it needs. I'm giving there's this erasure of black
Speaker 1: reality shows so that someone even wants to interview you, guys,
Speaker 1: because when y'all interview other people, When y'all interview the
Speaker 1: white publications and the talk shows, no one cares. It
Speaker 1: doesn't go viral. I don't care how big they are,
Speaker 1: it doesn't go viral. No one gives a shit. Right
Speaker 1: when you have someone like even the four of us
Speaker 1: every Monday, taking time out of our evenings to comment
Speaker 1: on the show, yes, you could be pissed that you
Speaker 1: disagree with us, but God forbid we stop talking about
Speaker 1: these shows. And then you get mad when the shows
Speaker 1: to get canceled, like Love and Hip Hop, Basketball Wives,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. When it comes to reality stars,
Speaker 1: I will say this, I Carlos King don't lead nobody
Speaker 1: to do anything, and I never had app. When I
Speaker 1: asked Kelly about Samia and ky Michelle, she said I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about it.
Speaker 2: I moved on.
Speaker 1: When Portia said I'm not talking about Shamia, I moved on. Secondly,
Speaker 1: these reality stars when they stitt on my couch. Let's
Speaker 1: have real conversation. They're ready to comfort you. I don't
Speaker 1: have to lead a woman to do any motherfucking thing. Really,
Speaker 1: they call me prepared to read, y'all. I don't have
Speaker 1: to lead shit. And that that's again that's talking about
Speaker 1: ky Michelle. It's just in general. I don't have to
Speaker 1: lead anybody to do anything. All these girls come on
Speaker 1: my show knowing it's gonna give an eyeballs they need,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go viral, and they're ready to really go
Speaker 1: and say what they have to say. But last, but
Speaker 1: not least, what I will end by saying is don't
Speaker 1: worry about who's leading the questions, because some of you
Speaker 1: reality stars allow y'all fans to lead y'all down the
Speaker 1: wrong road, having y'all go against people who actually have
Speaker 1: y'all back.
Speaker 2: In real life.
Speaker 1: Y'all being led, y'all. Y'all, y'all are the ones being led.
Speaker 1: Y'all are the ones who look at your dms. Although
Speaker 1: you're so busy, y'all, look at y'all dms. Y'all read Claudia,
Speaker 1: Carlos and Dustin said this about you, And I've gotten
Speaker 1: phone calls from reality. Sorry saying did you say this
Speaker 1: by me? I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like y'all fans, You let your fans lead y'all down
Speaker 1: the wrong road and cog and that's what you want, then,
Speaker 1: so be it. But my point is, when it comes
Speaker 1: to black journalists, black hosts, black content creators, we are
Speaker 1: the ones y'all should give the most motherfucking respect to
Speaker 1: because we are the ones that's actually making this show work.
Speaker 1: When you go on these white publications, nobody talks about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: Kelly Potter has done more interviews than all the girls
Speaker 1: combined this year, but when she got a my motherfucking out,
Speaker 1: she went viral. The other one she's likable to me
Speaker 1: as interview, same ship, ports in the same ship, and
Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. So I want to
Speaker 1: make sure to say that and when.
Speaker 5: We don't and when we have strong opinions on things,
Speaker 5: or use our language, or we have our takes, and
Speaker 5: since we are addressing people like if we didn't, y'all
Speaker 5: be calling us vanilla boring. We ain't standing on nothing, y'all,
Speaker 5: ain ain't bringing it. We're the ty reason niggas want
Speaker 5: from me.
Speaker 4: What y'all want.
Speaker 3: To shout out what.
Speaker 4: DMXX when I see that here?
Speaker 3: No there.
Speaker 5: My point is, we are giving y'all commentary. We're we're
Speaker 5: asking the questions. We're doing the things we're supposed to do,
Speaker 5: and yes, have your strong opinions about your face and
Speaker 5: we are allowed to to.
Speaker 4: We are allowed to to and that's what makes it great.
Speaker 5: This show would not be the most popping show on
Speaker 5: Monday Nights if we weren't doing that.
Speaker 7: That's right we have in the comments because I understand
Speaker 7: very clearly that people who have strong attachments to the
Speaker 7: people that they love on these shows may be offended
Speaker 7: by some of the things that we have to say
Speaker 7: about these shows. Even though it's not personal. We're talking
Speaker 7: about a television show. Pretty know they be on that shit,
Speaker 7: and I just don't want none of that energy around me,
Speaker 7: So I just.
Speaker 6: Stay out of that.
Speaker 7: Angela Okler, you need to stay out the comments too,
Speaker 7: because I think that that's heavily influencing some of the
Speaker 7: decisions that that she's making. To stay out the comments,
Speaker 7: stop trying to play it to the audience, and just
Speaker 7: do you, mama, that's all you gotta do.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 3: Carlos, I kind of say that I'm happy that you're
Speaker 3: talking about in the bias against black media, there have
Speaker 3: been so many studies that have shown if a white
Speaker 3: journalists ask a provocative question, it's called hard hitting journalism,
Speaker 3: and if a black person asks the exact same question,
Speaker 3: now they're messy.
Speaker 4: It's messy, it's hey, it's all that we are the
Speaker 4: words to each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hard hitting journalism is suddenly messy when it's a
Speaker 3: black person. Perfect example, when Gail King has been dragged
Speaker 3: several times for asking questions that Barbara Walters, who she studied,
Speaker 3: was known and notorious and became a legend for asking.
Speaker 3: So you're trying to get Gail King canceled for doing
Speaker 3: a Barbara Walters impersonation when Barbara Walters died a hero.
Speaker 3: So I need you guys to understand the internalized bias
Speaker 3: is real, the fact that when somebody who looks like
Speaker 3: you says something, you take it more seriously. You might
Speaker 3: want to examine that. And like dust and I also
Speaker 3: don't really comment. So if you've writ anything to me
Speaker 3: where you love me, thanks, and if you hate me,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: And Gail King sick of y'all shit. That's why she
Speaker 6: looked like that when she rang that bell when she
Speaker 6: was motherfuckers, That's why she looked like that.
Speaker 3: You went to the moon to get away from you.
Speaker 4: But I'm not mad at I get it. I'm not
Speaker 4: a hair of that wig move did it either?
Speaker 3: That wig was stiff that the moon that came back
Speaker 3: claud of you. That's some good glue.
Speaker 4: And they have that slimsy door too, that just pushed
Speaker 4: in like yeah, but real quick on that.
Speaker 5: I know this is a while ago, but that whole
Speaker 5: thing with uh, with Ky Michelle Porsche and the frenship thing.
Speaker 5: I also want to say on Porsche's side, I do
Speaker 5: understand when they also have to think about it putting
Speaker 5: myself on her shoes. Also thinking about if I do
Speaker 5: see someone that's married, you may not think of it
Speaker 5: like I need to let that person know and you're
Speaker 5: still getting to know each other, like she didn't really
Speaker 5: know the dynamics of that relationship. So I could also
Speaker 5: want to stand in the world where Porsche be like,
Speaker 5: oh girl, she's married now, she don't care about nothing
Speaker 5: about this guy, Like I don't have to give her
Speaker 5: heads up, so I don't want it to be one sided.
Speaker 5: I want to like still like be fair, because I
Speaker 5: was thinking about that, like if I ever liked someone
Speaker 5: or just trying to put myself on her shoes, like
Speaker 5: thinking someone's a newlywed who just got married before the
Speaker 5: show came on. That's when you're really all about your
Speaker 5: hobby as well. I could understand in the world where
Speaker 5: you may not think it would be as bothers him
Speaker 5: to some especially she doesn't know her like that yet.
Speaker 3: Might cut you out, like why are you bringing that woman?
Speaker 3: I'm married, like she.
Speaker 4: You don't know what you're gonna get with her?
Speaker 3: You really don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. That's why I tell all the
Speaker 1: girls on these shows, like live your life on the show.
Speaker 1: That's why I until she proves me otherwise, I will
Speaker 1: always go up for Giselle Bryant because she doesn't read
Speaker 1: the comments, she doesn't blame production, she doesn't break the
Speaker 1: fourth wall, she doesn't tweet, she don't do threads, shaan't
Speaker 1: on Facebook. She literally lives her life for the show.
Speaker 1: Me and Dustin, like I said, recap all three girls,
Speaker 1: Trip and we both laughed. On the episode, she said, Darren,
Speaker 1: make you the mean girl. I wanted to be the
Speaker 1: mean girl.
Speaker 2: That's my lane.
Speaker 1: Who accepts that outn't mind being the mean bit y'all
Speaker 1: hate like that means the show will be good and
Speaker 1: I get called to do every Bravo spin off. Note
Speaker 1: to man, I'm good. And I appreciate Andy for saying
Speaker 1: at the end like stay off social media. And when
Speaker 1: Porta said, oh my god, you live your your tweets
Speaker 1: are confessionals, like I just want these girls to live
Speaker 1: in the moment.
Speaker 2: And once again, I love all the girls.
Speaker 3: Oh god, we.
Speaker 1: Actually have a drinking game every time you say.
Speaker 3: That shit, so we could be under the damn table.
Speaker 3: I love all the girls. I had to give y'all
Speaker 3: something at the end question which one of the girls
Speaker 3: mentioned that when y'all get mad, they make more money,
Speaker 3: because y'all know that's always the hell that I die on.
Speaker 3: Somebody mentioned something about I can't remember who it was.
Speaker 3: One of the girls was talking about how she had
Speaker 3: to learn that, like good or bad, any of the
Speaker 3: attention you get ends up kind of being good for
Speaker 3: the bottom dollar. I don't know if if I saw
Speaker 3: that in an interview somewhere. I want you guys to understand,
Speaker 3: do not pander and be a villain if you don't
Speaker 3: have the heart to be a villain, if you can't fight,
Speaker 3: don't we talking crazy people that you don't want to
Speaker 3: see in the street. And however, Comma, people will literally
Speaker 3: hate watch you into a new tax bracket. And I
Speaker 3: think somebody who's a experienced that recently. I think that's
Speaker 3: why the ogs like the Porsche, the Teresa Judaces, This
Speaker 3: is ol Brian's. I think the reason why they're chilling
Speaker 3: is because you guys are buying them g wagons by
Speaker 3: getting upset at them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: It is what it is. Four thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Why don't you just this? I mean, but no, I
Speaker 1: thought that her union was absolutely fellar. I'm looking the
Speaker 1: park too. We're going to see Porsche, not Porsche, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: We're going to see Shemia and Cay Michelle get into
Speaker 1: it because of my interview with Shamia.
Speaker 2: So that's going to be.
Speaker 3: Your faultl Let.
Speaker 6: Me just.
Speaker 7: Let me say this one thing too. All I ever
Speaker 7: wanted was for Kay Michelle to participate, right. That was
Speaker 7: my entire gripe as she did not participate in the
Speaker 7: majority of the season.
Speaker 6: She participated at the reunion and it was good. So
Speaker 6: that is all I wanted.
Speaker 7: I was happy with her showing up and participating at
Speaker 7: the reunion.
Speaker 6: Good job.
Speaker 3: Did Carlos. When you and I gave the clap two
Speaker 3: episodes ago, he wasn't sold. He's finally sold.
Speaker 6: He was like still browsing, but.
Speaker 11: But he did good.
Speaker 7: I just wanted you got to you gotta give props
Speaker 7: where they do. And all I wanted was to her
Speaker 7: to do is participate. And she participated in the reunion,
Speaker 7: Thank god. Yeah, and it was better for the show.
Speaker 1: So yes came and Schelle had a sellar reunion, tense
Speaker 1: across the board, absolutely no notes.
Speaker 2: I listen.
Speaker 1: I would go as far as to say I thought
Speaker 1: they all worse.
Speaker 6: Like great reunion.
Speaker 2: It was a great reunion. Thank you, Blue and Dustin,
Speaker 2: love y'all, Love you guys.
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