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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast pre show grade B minus

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Speaker 1: sounds about right. From the Chris Westlink podcast studio. It's

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Dan Hands is here room just teaming with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosevedalt, and in her usual Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Slot, a Wolf.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we haven't all done a show together

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Speaker 5: in a while.

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Speaker 6: Right, well, yeah, I missed last week's which was made

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Speaker 6: oh right, abundantly clear to me over and over on

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Speaker 6: Thursday show, Yes.

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Speaker 7: And Sunday night, and now we're all together.

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Speaker 4: We are, and it just feels right.

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Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice. You know what else is very nice?

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Speaker 2: And we wait, So turn this up in my headphones.

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Speaker 5: I was playing this when I signed up for traffic

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Speaker 5: school today?

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Speaker 3: Why do you need traffics?

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Speaker 5: Got a speeding ticket I had to pay bail.

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Speaker 7: I guess let's go back to school for that.

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Speaker 4: And now I must go back to school.

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Speaker 7: Good feel there's a wolf.

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, I I'm calling out, Let's get

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Speaker 2: some more Connie theme song drops.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, be atm podcast at gmail.

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Speaker 2: Keep making them and send them in and we'll keep

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Speaker 2: playing them forever and ever than ever.

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Speaker 9: What about Greg's We also need some video submissions. For

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Speaker 9: the plus questions. Step step up your game there.

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Speaker 2: Let's go get weird, get fun, enjoy, enjoy.

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Speaker 7: We know you're creative out there.

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Speaker 8: Be created.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't question some of you.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't need to be like who is who is

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Speaker 9: going to replace you know, the third receiver on the bucks.

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Speaker 9: Now that Russell Gage is out right, we can We

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Speaker 9: want something fun, We want some fun stuff.

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Speaker 4: Correct, show your personality a.

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Speaker 2: Bit and and this is this is a huge, a

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Speaker 2: huge thing for us, and we're very excited. We announced

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Speaker 2: just yesterday or Monday night during the mnf or recap

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Speaker 2: and news that around the NFL is going back to

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Speaker 2: London and we had a we have a show at

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Speaker 2: the thought that the the Shaw Theater UH in London Town.

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Speaker 2: Pre sale was today Wednesday and we sold out that

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Speaker 8: That's all we want to tell.

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Speaker 9: I mean, not exactly why why say that now? It's

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Speaker 9: if you're listening to this, go check because we're not

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Speaker 9: just saying this.

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Speaker 3: We got the ticket update.

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Speaker 9: There are some tickets available, but by the time you

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Speaker 9: hear this, it might be sold out, or by tomorrow

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Speaker 9: at this time it might.

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Speaker 3: Be sold out. So it's quick.

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Speaker 8: It's going If you haven't bought tickets yet. You gome you.

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Speaker 6: Need you need to come in with the factual element

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Speaker 6: because I was doing that.

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Speaker 7: He's a showman.

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Speaker 9: We saw the people who are just hearing it for

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Speaker 9: the first time. They're Connie fans. They're only listening to

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Speaker 9: the Wednesday show.

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Speaker 4: I won't be at the show.

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Speaker 3: The pre sale code is West fortunately.

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Speaker 2: Uh and that'll be fun atn sells out and not

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Speaker 2: I think our fourth live show there and uh yes,

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Speaker 2: based on our great friend Mike Burkwitz, who does so

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Speaker 7: It was instant and Greg, I don't understand your angle.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to help out for their all.

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Speaker 7: If there's old numbers, crunch Rosenthal.

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Speaker 3: I think that's exciting for that week throw it out there.

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Speaker 2: I have not been the same personally without the touch

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Speaker 6: That is extra opportunity. Greg, hang up now, please that.

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Speaker 9: Our great friend Henry basically is just there anything else,

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Speaker 7: We'll miss you. It's a sliding doors scenario.

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Speaker 2: And one more thing, one more thing that is amazing

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Speaker 2: I see what's going on on Twitter. I know what's

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Speaker 2: oh look, our quarterly ratings are up on NFL network.

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Speaker 7: That's great, and I'm most supportive of the media group.

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Speaker 2: You know, I didn't see I didn't see any tweets

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Speaker 2: about this show and the numbers going up in year eleven.

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Speaker 2: And that is a testament to the the listeners and

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Speaker 2: the support we've gotten forever and ever and ever on

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Speaker 2: this show. So thank you for continuing to tune in.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate this time to check the stink on these podcasts,

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Speaker 1: not pad for the bosos.

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Speaker 7: I see that guy around the hallways all the time.

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Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't matter how much success we have here,

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Speaker 7: Doing their thing in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the connection between us.

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Speaker 4: Successful bosos that's what's special.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you could call us whatever you want, because we

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Speaker 6: First seven minutes of the show us talking about us.

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Speaker 5: We've been doing this for thirty seven minutes.

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Speaker 4: By the way, in this studio is city.

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Speaker 8: I hope it doesn't come up.

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Speaker 2: Just a love to the listeners, Yes, yeah, thank you

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Speaker 2: for everything you've given us. A great life. Let's now

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Speaker 2: with Colleen. She's got a hard out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like ten minutes.

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Speaker 7: You got to get that we.

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Speaker 2: Had some minor issues getting the show set up this morning.

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Speaker 2: Say that nath was involved. There's a really tricky situation

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Speaker 2: nine to nine own two teams as we enter week three.

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Speaker 7: Wounded animals.

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Speaker 2: You could call them all them cornered animals, you can't.

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Speaker 7: And we love animals. So we're not celebrating, no, not

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Speaker 2: We're going to power rank them maybe power maybe power

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Speaker 2: is not the word powerless rank from hopeless, too hopeful,

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Speaker 2: Sure, and I'll take I'll take the fall here, used

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Speaker 9: Done this before the show, it would be the same

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Speaker 4: Guys, twenty minutes.

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Speaker 7: Into a sitting here, so appreciate you too, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm loving it, having a blast.

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Speaker 7: Are you though? The Powerless rankings one to nine.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna say, you know what? Oh and two teams

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Speaker 7: We are?

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Speaker 2: We still hopeful? And who is hopeless? We also have

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Speaker 2: let's count them. It's primetime Wednesday preview. We have a

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Speaker 2: We'll get to it in time. Okay, let's let's do

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Speaker 2: week for Mark. Put it that way. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: Let's go because there's not a lot there's not a

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Speaker 3: We're gonna hit the biggest news in this segment.

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Speaker 7: We'll couch it in other parts of the show.

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Speaker 2: Week three, The New England Patriots, the Cincinnati Bengals, The

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Speaker 3: It's nine. It's ten if you count the Vikings twice.

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Speaker 7: What's eighteen losses? That's good times two, got it.

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Speaker 10: Who is that, Eric, So the number one team, assuming

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Speaker 5: Because last year it was they lost to Mitchell Trubisky

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Speaker 9: If Joe Burrow doesn't play any games, they don't have

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Speaker 8: You're very nervous.

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Speaker 7: I would have him down.

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Speaker 2: But there's also a chance this guy, you know, these

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Speaker 9: Gonna like he's gonna gut it out publicly. I get

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Speaker 9: He wasn't limping off the field noticeably after Week one.

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Speaker 4: At the end of their run. Defense is a mess.

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Speaker 3: They're not they could have other issues.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, that's fair too, all these teams.

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Speaker 7: Even unfair that you.

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Speaker 2: Keep coming after Taylor when the franchise, the whole, the

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Speaker 9: But I don't think Joe Burrow as the reason they

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just allow a lot of being put at

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Speaker 7: Fair a lot of success.

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Speaker 7: That's all we shall see all right, number two in

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Speaker 5: We don't really know what the vector voting is.

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Speaker 7: Sure, vector voting system? Hanging chats.

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Speaker 8: Yes, there we go a little bit of data ref

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Speaker 8: But I got it.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, go look it up if you're too young to

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Speaker 10: Number two guys, the Los Angeles Chargers. It looks like

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Speaker 8: I had him too.

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Speaker 7: Where did you guys have them two? Okay?

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Speaker 4: I had them three?

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Speaker 7: All right, it's fine, Colleen. Why do you have him

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 5: Because I don't know why I like the Vikings after watching.

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Speaker 7: Right save that, But why do you have the charge?

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Speaker 2: What are you worried about the Chargers to the point

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Speaker 5: Because I think the defense has been a disaster, and

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Speaker 6: Yet you have two weeks in a row where you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the roster is great.

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Speaker 8: I just you're okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: I want to imagine this team with and I hate

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Speaker 9: They've lost two games by a combined five points to

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Speaker 9: The defense is very concerning, but the offense has been great.

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Speaker 9: I mean they're top five and success rate, their top

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Speaker 7: You need to be too.

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Speaker 8: Nobody wants that. All right, who do you have at

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Speaker 3: Number three? Guys? Little tease from calling there the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I had the Vikings at three as well up

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Speaker 6: The Vikings as my fourth team, but it gets foggy

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Speaker 9: The To me, they're like, don't look any different than

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Speaker 9: That's like, there's not much separating this from like a

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Speaker 9: signed Dalton Reisner, who was, you know, too high on

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Speaker 7: The monitoring lie it is. Yeah, so could be super troubling.

447
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Speaker 9: Okay, so that we're gonna have a very good OH

448
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,880
Speaker 9: and three team, we're gonna have an O and three

449
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 9: team that I wouldn't stick a fork in between the

450
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 9: loser that game.

451
00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. About number four on these rankings.

452
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 10: Our guys coming behind the Vikings is the New England Patriots.

453
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

454
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 7: I had them at three.

455
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 3: I had them at two.

456
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 9: Maybe showing some homerism here, but to me, they're a

457
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 9: more complete, better team on a neutral field than the

458
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 9: Vikings and the Borough thing I talked about. So they've

459
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 9: looked like a better team than they were in twenty

460
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 9: twenty two, but they're still They're still sloppy. There's still

461
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 9: a notch below I think a team like Miami or

462
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 9: certainly Buffalo in their own division. And even if that

463
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 9: defense is great, they've had so many injuries now on

464
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 9: both sides of all.

465
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Speaker 3: That's all concerning.

466
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 9: But they do have enough ingredients I think, including the coaches,

467
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 9: that they can get better and better as a season.

468
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 6: Goal, I feel like they need to win games like

469
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 6: seventeen to sixteen or seventeen fourteen.

470
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 7: Like I don't trust their offense.

471
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 6: We watched them together on Sunday night and I was like,

472
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 6: visibly andverbally agitated by what they are on offense.

473
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 7: They feel poorly coached on like I.

474
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Speaker 6: Just feel like this is not this is not to

475
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 6: me like a team that I trust to do anything

476
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 6: more than maybe win eight or nine games. Their defense

477
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 6: is absolutely solid, but that's it. You're on one side

478
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 6: of the ball. Like I like, I think Greg, you

479
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 6: like Mac Jones far more than I do. We will

480
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,719
Speaker 6: see I have him at number five, and that is

481
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 6: like Yeah, what we've seen so far is kind of meh.

482
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 6: And you know this is gonna be interesting because they're

483
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 6: going to the metal lands where they've had so much

484
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 6: success even post Tom Brady.

485
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Speaker 2: So we'll see what version of the patch shows up.

486
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Speaker 2: But like I don't know, maybe it is with with

487
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: with mac Jones a little bit at the disconnect, Greg,

488
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 2: I see it, you see it, like he he is

489
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: capable of leading drives, you know, putting points on the

490
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: board if that's if the scheme is right, he could

491
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 2: put the pass where it needs to be.

492
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 8: Sometimes it takes.

493
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: More work than a more athletic that guy, but he'll

494
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 2: get out of the pocket and he'll hit the throw

495
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: and they'll be able to move change. However, I think

496
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: the thing that I was thinking about today is because

497
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 2: he's not special, Like he's not a true playmaker, it

498
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: kind of caps the whole thing. And since there's not

499
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: so much talent around him, it's gonna be really hard

500
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: for them week to week to put up points and

501
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: and put so much pressure on the defense, which to me,

502
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: they are a seven or eight win team.

503
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 7: Because of that.

504
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 5: It just doesn't feel like they have anything like special

505
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 5: that like they need more Hootzpa. With the offense, there

506
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 5: needs to be like another gear to it. So when

507
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 5: I watch it just kind of feels like a little

508
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 5: flat lining.

509
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 9: They're condensed. They need their special to be on defense. Yeah,

510
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 9: and that's tough to do in twenty twenty two because

511
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 9: suddenly you can be down to your top three corners

512
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 9: like they were against Miami, and it's like you're not

513
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 9: You're not gonna be special and they're thin on the

514
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 9: offensive line. That's my number one concern. I think Max

515
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 9: played pretty well despite it. I think they're quite well

516
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 9: coached on offense because I think they're under talented and

517
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 9: they've had open receivers. It's such a difference between now

518
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 9: in a year ago. But you're counting on guys like

519
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 9: to Mario Douglas and he's a sixth round little rookie

520
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 9: who you bench. And then you're like doing the Belichick

521
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 9: thing where you're spiting your nose to spite your face.

522
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: What is it with your nose your face?

523
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 7: You're cutting off your keep your nose spite your face.

524
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 6: I don't know why anyone would would on that. Historically,

525
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 6: where the phrase came.

526
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 7: From a narcissus Narcissus.

527
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 9: Narcissus said, I think I think they could rally though,

528
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 9: I think they could rally.

529
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: All right, where are we at number five looking at

530
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: himself in that pond? Yeah, it's getting bad now, it's

531
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: getting rough. Now, it's gonna start getting uglier. But later

532
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: it's almost like we're at the last spot for me

533
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: anyway where I have any amount of hope.

534
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 7: What do you I.

535
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: Agree up next, guys around the Patriots is the Broncos.

536
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 6: That's exactly where I put that number fives across the board.

537
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: I think I flipped over in New England just because

538
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: they've been proficient on offense that they've been, you know,

539
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: they've had moments where they just look better.

540
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson does look better.

541
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 4: What was that?

542
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: That was not the wound?

543
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 10: I liked it to me, that was I planned a

544
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 10: little transition and make it a little more wounded at

545
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 10: this point.

546
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 9: That was that I want that as part of the

547
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 9: Broncos profile on this podcast all season.

548
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 7: It's like a nasally again.

549
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's Kevin Saunders, their general manager. Poor thing.

550
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: It's like a little Gerbil like asking for water, like

551
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: the water thing is. Yeah, there's a little more animal to.

552
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 3: It at the end.

553
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 9: It's like, Sean, can you stop playing Jordan and Little

554
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 9: Jordan Humphrey and Adam Trautman from the Saints for fifty

555
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 9: snaps a game.

556
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 7: That's what Greg would be as an animal.

557
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: Uh, there is, there is, There are things to be

558
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: more hopeful about, like with the Patriots, quite honestly, where

559
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: the offense looks like it's a little more professionally run

560
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: than a year ago. Russell Wilson has hit on some

561
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: deep balls, He's got some chemistry, and there's that side

562
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: of it. But again I thought there were obviously also Greg,

563
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: a lot of red flags about how that game played

564
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: out and Week two.

565
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 8: Down the stretch and was like, oh is this team junk?

566
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 7: Is that what's going on here?

567
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 9: I think they're squarely in the middle to like the

568
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 9: lower middle class. You know, they've lost two games by

569
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 9: how many points? I've combined three points now one of them.

570
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 9: You know, the hail mayor made that look better. But

571
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 9: there there's there to me more what you guys are

572
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 9: talking about. With the Patriots, there's I said this before

573
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 9: the season, there's truly nothing special about this team. There's

574
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 9: no unit, there's no group, on the team that's above average,

575
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 9: they're all like hoping to be averaged.

576
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: The defense I think is well below average at this point.

577
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: I just went on a ESPN to check out some

578
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: results for the Broncos their schedule, and one of the

579
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: videos that popped up Jeff Saturday colon Sean Payton and

580
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's partnership can work.

581
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 8: So did it happen?

582
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: Like, did Jeff Saturday actually leave ESPN and become the

583
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: head coach of the Cults?

584
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 7: Yes, then returned huh are we sure?

585
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 8: Though?

586
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: Well, like, are we certain that that happened? Was that potentially?

587
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: It's like one of those I felt simulation. I was

588
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: there for it.

589
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 6: It's like how did last night end? I don't necessarily remember.

590
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 6: It's kind of that sort of situation, like a you know,

591
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 6: this is like.

592
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: An honest question, did it? Can we say with total

593
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: certainty that had happened? And if you if you say,

594
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: I believe you. But there's also it makes way more

595
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: sense that of course that didn't happen, because that would

596
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: be insane. But there's also if we all collectively kind

597
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: of remember it is that the st streisand effect, is

598
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: that what they call it the strisand effected.

599
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: What is that effect?

600
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Speaker 7: You're heading into waters that I'm unsure of.

601
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, But while you look up that the Broncos, Yes,

602
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 5: now that they lost to the Commanders and the Raiders

603
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 5: both at home, they have coming up in their next

604
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 5: eight games, they play the Dolphins, the Bills, and the

605
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 5: Chiefs twice, so they're going to be pretty rooted for

606
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: a while.

607
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: The streisand effects is an unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove,

608
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: or sensor information where the effort instead backfires by increasing

609
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: awareness of that information.

610
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 6: That's attached to Barber Striisan has anything to do with

611
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 6: what you were talking about.

612
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: But that's an interesting.

613
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: Why did why did your brain go to this?

614
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: It's it's actually fascinating. Check out the wiki page. She

615
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 2: had a beach side of state in Malibu, and it

616
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: got super on her radar that somehow there was like

617
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: either like photos of it that got out there, and

618
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: she made a big deal trying to suppress those photos

619
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: because she didn't want to, she wanted privacy, and instead

620
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: by sending it up like legal back channels, it became

621
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: a big story and then everyone knew where her house.

622
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 9: This happens a lot in sports media, you'll you'll hear

623
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 9: a big time apology from like a mid tier coach

624
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 9: or like an assistant or a player, like explaining something

625
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 9: I'm so sorry about no one and like no one

626
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 9: ever knew about it, and that actually ends up making

627
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 9: it worse.

628
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: So you're right, that's not what it is. But by

629
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: the end of this episode, I'll remember what it was.

630
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 7: Okay, well, next time we can look forward to that.

631
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 8: Yes, all right, let's uh.

632
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 9: I'm we'll talk about Rust Wilson plentying on the show,

633
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 9: but I'm I'm not seeing it much different.

634
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, number six, So now we go into

635
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: the kind of like the area of the damned. We're

636
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: moving from hopeful to edging towards hopeless potentially, which is.

637
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 7: I don't like that one. That's too much. Oh that

638
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 7: don't hurt too much. I don't like that one. I

639
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 7: didn't like that one.

640
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 4: We don't love it. I'm sorry, Oh.

641
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 7: What are we doing? All right?

642
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 10: Let's go number six behind the Broncos. Guys, the only

643
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 10: team with a unanimous across the board all the same

644
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 10: vote the Panthers number four. I guess four points.

645
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 6: I think it's tough to all have a team in

646
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 6: the same place at this point in the exercise.

647
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 7: That's a good job by us or not.

648
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 8: I don't know.

649
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 9: I think it's because, like no one believes their offense

650
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 9: is going to be above average at any point, even

651
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 9: if Bryce starts playing better. But they have like a

652
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 9: truly capable defensive roster, especially in the front seven. Now

653
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 9: they keep losing guys. Shaq Thompson now is gone and

654
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 9: we'll see when Jacy Horn gets back at quarterback, but

655
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 9: like they have a legit frontline that's gonna like make

656
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 9: games uncomfortable for other teams.

657
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: And that's that's what they got.

658
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 6: You remember where like when Steve Wilkes, like eight months

659
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 6: ago or whatever had this team like destroying people with

660
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 6: the run.

661
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, there's seven people taking photos of us.

662
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: There is more of them before and I was able

663
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: to ignore that.

664
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, but now there's a whole other crew.

665
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 6: It's well, they wheel people in from these schools in

666
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 6: these programs, Like they're often standing outside our cubicle people in.

667
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: It's like a tourist group.

668
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 6: But is it is a little bit so there you

669
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Speaker 6: can't Also, the glass at the Chris Wesley studio is

670
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 6: a bit tinted, so we can't really see them, but

671
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 6: they can stare at us and try nice judging us.

672
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 7: They can judge us.

673
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 5: I judge you guys all the time when I walk past,

674
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: I'm watching you.

675
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 7: Yes, wherever you got, go ahead? Mark, Sorry about that, though,

676
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 7: No are they are?

677
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 6: They even more formidable than what Steve Wilkes had them

678
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 6: doing down the stretch last year when they were blowing

679
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 6: people away attack It's like the offense is more punchless.

680
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 6: I do like the defense to some agree, but it's

681
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 6: like cool, they're not as good as New England's defense.

682
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 6: So it's like you if New England's gonna have a

683
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 6: tough time surviving on one side of the ball.

684
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 7: This team feels a little lost to me.

685
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 6: I'm not sure Frank Reich is the savior some always

686
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 6: project them to be.

687
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: They have no playmakers though, like they have no one

688
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 5: at the skill positions. I mean, they're gonna have to

689
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 5: win with Miles Sanders and their defense. And it's like

690
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 5: with Bryce Young behind that offensive line, he's already been

691
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: sacked six times, Like Annie's a rookie on top of

692
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 5: it to throw the ball to really, you need to

693
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 5: get their guys.

694
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: More, what is what are you subpower rankings? The early

695
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: season hit targets. Okay, I'll go through all of us.

696
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: I don't know Colleen yet. For me, Desmond Ritter, yeah, uh,

697
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: for Mark, it's Frank right I second time, And I haven't.

698
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 7: Think it's a Zach Sailor. Yeah, would be for Greg.

699
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 6: We've met Frank target like a totally nice individual. Loved

700
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 6: him as a backup quarterback. But like, I just think

701
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 6: it's kind of like, oh, Frank Reich's there. There's all

702
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 6: this stability, like is there? Like what's so stable about

703
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 6: what happened to last year's Cults and what's so stable

704
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 6: about this year's Panthers.

705
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: It could show it to me, It could take some time.

706
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 9: These two teams back to back reminds me a giro

707
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 9: Everro went from the Broncos to the Panthers. That Broncos

708
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 9: defense looks a lot worse, and I like what I've

709
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 9: seen out of the Panthers defense. I think they have

710
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 9: a nice coaching staff there.

711
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: Before we get to the very bottom, because I know

712
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people screaming at their listening devices.

713
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 2: When I said strids and effect, They're like that's not

714
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: a idiot, right, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking

715
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: of the Mandela effect, an observed phenomenon in which a

716
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: large segment of the population misremembers a significant event or

717
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: shares a memory of an event that did not actually occur.

718
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 7: That's Jeff's Saturday.

719
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Speaker 9: How why what happened with Mandela that he I think

720
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 9: it was that he died in prison.

721
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 8: It was something like that.

722
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 5: I like that you can't remember, and that's the whole thing.

723
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 6: That doesn't matter as much your syndrome with us here

724
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 6: at this point, like symbion you know, Symbionese Liberation Front.

725
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 8: It was something like that.

726
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: You nailed it.

727
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 9: Everyone thought he died in prison, which you know, of

728
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 9: course he didn't. He was a whole thing, was a release, Yeah,

729
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 9: twenty plus years Well, it.

730
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 8: Was kind of a pre internet phenomenon.

731
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 7: I think the most part. All right, numbers tells hard

732
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 7: out not looking good. We got ten minutes.

733
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 10: The final three guys up. Next is the Texans. Okay,

734
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 10: it looks like Mark had them one spot below the rest.

735
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 6: I believe in a different team more than the Texans

736
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 6: at this moment.

737
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 9: I'm guessing I can guess. I uh I think c J.

738
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 9: Stroud's been promising. I think they're Will Anderson's promising, like

739
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 9: the idea of their defenses promising. I don't know if

740
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 9: it's totally showed up yet because of injuries. Like they're

741
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 9: a team I'm more excited to watch. But I we're

742
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 9: at the point where it would be shocking to me

743
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 9: if any of these teams were close.

744
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: To a playoff run.

745
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: Right, I'm with you, Oh yeah, there's no way. This

746
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: is a team under construction.

747
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: It's the NFL situ there's always a way good. I

748
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: get c J.

749
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 5: Stroud was like taking shots downfield though, to Nico Collins

750
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 5: and Tank Dell, and he like hurt his shoulder and

751
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 5: he was behind a bad offensive line. And even when

752
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: their offensive line is one hundred percent, they're still like

753
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: not anywhere near one hundred percent effective.

754
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, they need it's a nice premium.

755
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 6: I no, there's banged up as any offensive line out

756
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 6: there with what they thought they'd have come in and like,

757
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 6: but Bobby Slowick I kind of like this. It's a

758
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 6: bit of a Shanahan system. And Stroud did a lot,

759
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 6: I thought in the last game. But you're right, under construction,

760
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 6: under construction.

761
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: But also the Colts aren't very good, even if they've

762
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: shown a little bit more than some expected. You don't

763
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: want to amount what was at their home opener to

764
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: be down twenty eight ten to the Colts at the

765
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: half in a game in which the starting quarterback of

766
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: the Colts went out like in the second quarter. Like

767
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: it was a tough start. Yeah, but it's just the start.

768
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 9: It's fair point that if you're taking moral victories out

769
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 9: of a two score loss at home to the Colts,

770
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 9: you've got a ways to go. But this season is

771
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 9: all about just developing their young players and Collins Dell Stroud.

772
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 9: If they have a legit passing attack this season like that,

773
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 9: that's something to hold on.

774
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

775
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: So now here's where it gets said. Number seven, number

776
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: eight on this list.

777
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 10: Narrowly edging out the last place vote. Guys, the Cardinals.

778
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 10: There was one three votes, so I think that was

779
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 10: I had them.

780
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 6: I had them up at three. I don't know like

781
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 6: what you had them. I had the Cardinals above the Texans.

782
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 7: That's fine.

783
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 6: I don't think there's a big problem. No, no, no, no,

784
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 6: I have just one on one notch above and it's like,

785
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 6: look at like you so you got them at seven. Yeah, everyone,

786
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 6: Like I think part of it is perception, Like everyone

787
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 6: assumes like you're doing this like vague like ghost tank

788
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 6: job snarrow, which you're not. Like the players and coaches

789
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 6: can't pull it off in the NFL necessarily, But like,

790
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 6: you've got to lead over the Commanders in the fourth quarter.

791
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 7: They're spicy to some degree.

792
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 6: You've got to lead over the Giants, a playoff team

793
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 6: from a year ago, in the fourth quarter, And like,

794
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 6: I'm not in love with Josh Dobbs.

795
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 7: But he played better. He played pretty well in the

796
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 7: first half against the Giants. Start there.

797
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 6: Secondly, I think you've got a defense that has disrupted

798
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 6: quarterbacks two weeks in a row, and I'm labeling them

799
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 6: as like the third worst team in the NFL.

800
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 7: So that's not this is not a cell job.

801
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 6: I just think there's a little bit more going on

802
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 6: than the Texans.

803
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 7: They are.

804
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they are tanking, and the reason they are

805
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: tanking it's not the players and coach's fault. But that's

806
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: how you give up five score scores in five possessions,

807
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: four touchdowns in a field goal to lose a game

808
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: that's in your back pocket because they don't have enough players,

809
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: they don't have the scheme. And Jonathan Gannon is their

810
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: new head coach. He was the DC of the Eagles.

811
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: Troubling for a meltdown of that of that proportion. Again,

812
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: it's early, but I think because of the lack of talent,

813
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: it's just like, yeah, I had him at nine, I

814
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: had him buried just because there's just nothing there. And Dobbs,

815
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: I think has played at pretty high level all things considered,

816
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: but what if that comes down a little bit.

817
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: I just think that.

818
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 5: They're an easier watch than I expected. Like they are,

819
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 5: They've they've been a little bit more fun. I thought

820
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 5: it was going to be really, really bleak, and I

821
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 5: actually enjoyed watching Josh Dobbs like muscle his way into

822
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: the end zone last week.

823
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: He looked really good. I was like, wait, who what

824
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: that's Josh Dobbs.

825
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 5: And that linebacker that they have, Dennis Gardak, like he's.

826
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 7: Pretty barbarian, He's pretty good. He's been great.

827
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 5: So they have a couple bright spots on there, Whereas

828
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 5: I put the Bears number last.

829
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 9: And they've like terrible snapp for snap through two games,

830
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 9: the Cardinals have absolutely played better than the Bears in

831
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 9: the Texans. I don't know if that's going to continue.

832
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 9: I don't know if there's much hope, so I put

833
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 9: him last anyways, But yeah, Dobbs is actually a good

834
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 9: example of them not tanking. That's the front office. They

835
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 9: brought him in right before the season. He is miles

836
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 9: better than I think Colt McCoy or Clayton Tune could

837
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 9: have been. He's running Deshaun Watson's offense because the same

838
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 9: coordinator is the last here, you know, as well as

839
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 9: Shahn Watson, and so that that's them trying to win

840
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 9: these games. It's not gonna work, I don't think. But

841
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 9: I think that's fair to point out that they're not

842
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 9: truly tanky.

843
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: But why didn't they target Josh Dobbs and give him

844
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: a full off season?

845
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 9: I think well, first of all, he might not have

846
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 9: been as available U until the Browns. The Browns were

847
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 9: super impressed by Dorian Thompson Robbinson.

848
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 7: I think that change.

849
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: I think that was part of it, and.

850
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 9: They probably were a little hopeful that the guys in

851
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 9: house Cole and Clayton Tune would have been would have

852
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 9: been better. But Daniel right, I mean, but it raises

853
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 9: my point, the whole thing about I know it's a

854
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 9: side point, but Watson tho, it's like, within two weeks,

855
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 9: this guy is playing quite well for the Cardinals.

856
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 6: But but if you're going to bring any quarterback in

857
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 6: like in late August, like, that's odd your week.

858
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, that just is that doesn't happen.

859
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 3: Extremely odd.

860
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 9: It's almost as odd as when the Browns traded their

861
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 9: Week one starter before week two Charlie Fry in the

862
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 9: two thousands.

863
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: Well, Derek Anderson almost one off. Its weird, Yeah, dysfunction.

864
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: You could connect those things and in the number of ways. Yes,

865
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: And the Bears. Let's hit on the Bears quickly, because

866
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: we've got to take a break and then we're gonna

867
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: hit some previews. The Bears are a scary mess right now.

868
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: Two losses. The offense is not looking good, the quarterback

869
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 2: is not looking good or confident.

870
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 8: Do we have this in two parts?

871
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: Eric, all right, let's listen to Fields talk about the

872
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: early struggles of the offense of the team.

873
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 11: Of course, you know things that I didn't like. I

874
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 11: felt like, you know, I wasn't necessarily playing my game.

875
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 11: I felt like I was kind of robotic and you know,

876
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 11: not just not playing like myself. So you know, my

877
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 11: goal this week is just to you know, say effid

878
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 11: and you go out there and play football. How I

879
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 11: know how to play football?

880
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 7: And that's not.

881
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 11: That includes thinking lesson just going out there and you know,

882
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 11: playing off the instincts rather than just of you know

883
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 11: so much. So to say info in my head, died

884
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 11: in my head and literally just going out there playing football.

885
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 7: Some code language in there.

886
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: Perhaps let's listen to a little more where it becomes

887
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: even more clear where he's going.

888
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: What do you say thinking last what do you think

889
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: was causing you to think so much?

890
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 12: Maybe thinks much?

891
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 11: You know, could be uh coaching. I think, oh, you know,

892
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 11: at the end of the day, it makes it. You know,

893
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 11: they're doing their job when they're giving me, you know

894
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 11: what to look at stuff like that. But at the

895
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 11: end of the day, I can't be thinking about that

896
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 11: when the game comes. I prepare myself throughout the week,

897
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 11: and then when the game comes, it's you know, it's

898
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 11: it's it's time to play free at that point, So,

899
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 11: you know, just thinking less and playing more.

900
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 7: Mmmmmm good.

901
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: Sounds like someone got their nails done in that.

902
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: A lot of typing it's time to I don't have.

903
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 5: My nails aren't that long anymore, so it doesn't work.

904
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: I cut them.

905
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 9: I feel like film Twitter has been talking about Justin

906
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 9: Fields more than any player in the league, and like JT. O. Sullivan,

907
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 9: who does the QB School, which is great, kind of

908
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 9: been talking about exactly what Justin Field is talking about.

909
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: Their words. He can see him thinking.

910
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 9: You can see him thinking through his his steps, his progress,

911
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 9: and he's just not letting go of the ball. He's

912
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 9: not always seeing receivers, but when he is seeing it,

913
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 9: he's not letting it fly. And they haven't been doing

914
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 9: any designed runs. It's just been very possible, right, It's

915
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 9: been very confusing. It's almost like they're going to reach

916
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 9: the same realization they did last year. It's like, let's

917
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 9: build the whole ship out of the run game here

918
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 9: and see what happens, because that worked pretty well.

919
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 8: But they build old play out of a black box now.

920
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: I think that with Fields, Like he said it, he

921
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: said like maybe it's the coaching and he also said

922
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: this week's going to be different. I'm gonna be it.

923
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be myself. Is the coaching staff on board

924
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: with that? Is that a conversation they had that or

925
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: is he kind of saying I'm going rogue a little

926
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: bit this week because I don't I don't believe in

927
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: you know.

928
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 7: The system that I'm in.

929
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 4: That's what I think.

930
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: That is an interesting situation, Connie. Yeah, you've said it all.

931
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: You have a fitting to get to. But also a

932
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: little teaser.

933
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 4: Here, men, stop to take care of back schedule today.

934
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: Uh teaser, Connie is going to have a prominent role

935
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: in our Thursday NFL plus prematorium APU. So make sure

936
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: if you're not checking that show out.

937
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 7: Uh.

938
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 8: If you need more Connie in your.

939
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 7: Life, this is the avenue Thirsday Crematorium.

940
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 8: Let's play this out into the break.

941
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: We'll be back and hit all the previews for week

942
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: three prime time.

943
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 5: Bye Connie, Bye, guys.

944
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 7: There's there's.

945
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 12: A cash. Don't don't do stupid.

946
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 8: All right, we are back and we have.

947
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: Four games to talk about prime time on Wednesdays, we

948
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: preview the primetime games. Let's start with Thursday Night Football,

949
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: and it is the New York Giants, big Blue themselves

950
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: after after a stirring comeback win over the Cardinals.

951
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 7: Crazy.

952
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a they had they had to win

953
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: that game. Let's start here. They're going up to San

954
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: Francisco to face a forty nine Ers team that's playing

955
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: as good as any team in football on a short

956
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: week in primetime without most likely their best player, Saquon Barkley.

957
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 2: If they did not win that Cardinals game, this season

958
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: feels like it's dirt nap time. So now you have

959
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: a little you have a little bit to play with here,

960
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: and Greg, you got the ten points spread here. So

961
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: San Francisco a heavy favorite in this game? And is

962
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: there any path? And this is really for Al Michaels

963
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: and Kirk Herbstreet more than anyone else.

964
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 7: I'm asking this question, is.

965
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: There any path to this game not being a three

966
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: score difference by halftime?

967
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: Yes?

968
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 9: I mean the Los Angeles Rams I thought played the

969
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 9: forty nine Ers to a draw more or less for

970
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 9: three quarters. And so why can't the Giants, Well, there

971
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 9: are many reasons why, but the reason they could keep

972
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 9: it close would be Danny franchise Danny Dimes. I mean,

973
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 9: you gave him all that money, he's your franchise quarterback.

974
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 9: Can he be like a Matthew Stafford that lifts everyone

975
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 9: around him? He did it against Arizona and everyone will say, Okay,

976
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 9: it's the Cardinals, and that's a totally fair point. But

977
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 9: the throws he was making were really high quality throws

978
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 9: into tight windows. Jalen Hyatt had two impressive catches, so

979
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 9: you'd like to see more out of him. A rookie

980
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 9: speedster who kind of changes their offense. Waller had a

981
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 9: nice game. Danny Dimes even made some defenders miss in

982
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 9: the open field, which is not usually his bag. I

983
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 9: know he's a fast runner, but he's not usually like

984
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 9: an agile runner. I was like, oh, okay, it was

985
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 9: not familiar with this from Danny Dimes. So their offense

986
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 9: showed enough in that game that if he can play

987
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 9: at that level with the receivers they have, it is

988
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 9: a little deeper they could make this at least.

989
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

990
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 6: I think like I'm with you, Greg, I think like

991
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 6: it's which team, uh, Which New York Giants? Is closer

992
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 6: to reality? The first six quarters we saw from this

993
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 6: season thought the Cowboys game was a weather game. It

994
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 6: was a little fluky. The Giants just got caught in

995
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 6: a vortex or it's like I don't buy that as

996
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 6: their identity, or they the two quarters where they amassed

997
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 6: two hundred and ninety four points converted six third yards

998
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 6: in a row too.

999
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, not points that I'd be picking the Giant.

1000
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: I would say they would have a chance that they

1001
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 6: scored two hundred and ninety four points in the game.

1002
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 7: But you saw everything that you just mentioned.

1003
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 6: It's like Darren Waller like a summertime delight, like vanished

1004
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 6: early on in the season there were health issues. It's

1005
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 6: like he started to play Hyatt adds this big element

1006
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 6: to your offense.

1007
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 7: Hee that fifty eight yard catch.

1008
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 6: It's like I think Daniel Jones is a top three

1009
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 6: quarterback on the ground, like he really can.

1010
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 7: That element matters.

1011
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 6: And it's like that said, like the Niners have been

1012
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 6: extremely consistent. Brock Perdy has been answered a lot of

1013
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 6: questions like they've got so many weapons, Like I'm not

1014
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 6: in love with the Giants' defense now they did against

1015
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 6: the Cardinals in the first half of that game. It's

1016
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 6: like that version of the Giants gets wiped out on

1017
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 6: the road on Thursday night when teams just lean on

1018
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 6: what they do well or innately.

1019
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: Brian Dable was the Coach of the Year last year

1020
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: and then Week one just felt so out of place.

1021
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: Because you're just in addition to getting horrifically embarrassed at

1022
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: home by arrival, they just didn't seem prepared for the moment.

1023
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: And but that feels like an outlier because the first half, again, yes,

1024
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: I think there's some maybe residual hangover slash. You're going

1025
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: down the road and everyone's picking you to win, and

1026
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: everyone's saying the Cardinals are the worst team and it

1027
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: could go winless or it be the you know, number

1028
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: one pick, and all of a sudden they kind of

1029
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: punch in the mouth. And I thought that game was

1030
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: such a great example again of Dable and the ability

1031
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: at halftime to make adjustments. And you're right about Hyatt

1032
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: the first what are they first play call, we're getting

1033
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: our asses kicked?

1034
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 7: What is it?

1035
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 8: Twenty nothing?

1036
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: At halftime and they call a bomb and Hyatt pulls

1037
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: it in and almost immediate they score pretty quickly after that,

1038
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: the whole scene shifts, And I thought that was another

1039
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: thing they added in that they kind of got away

1040
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: from in the first half was designed kind of runs

1041
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: or option runs for Danny dimes. And once you added

1042
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: that in and he was feeling good throwing the ball,

1043
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: that's where you see it. You see why the Giants

1044
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: game all that money. So the path as we pivot

1045
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: over to the Niner side of it, is that Danny

1046
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 2: Dimes carries that confidence and Dable has a game plan

1047
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: that is really especially if Barkley's out built around utilizing

1048
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: his dual threat abilities. The Niners greg are going to

1049
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: be obviously a very difficult opponent because everything has worked

1050
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: so far. Brand now Yuka a little dinged up here,

1051
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 2: but Christian McCaffrey looks as good as ever.

1052
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 8: They're gonna be tough to stop.

1053
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 7: They just really are.

1054
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, that matchup when the forty nine Ers have the

1055
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 9: ball is a little hard to imagine the Giants surviving.

1056
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 9: But through two games, the forty nine Ers are twenty

1057
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 9: ninth in pass blocking. Bertie's been under a lot of pressure.

1058
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 9: They have a new right tackle, Colton mckivitz, who's really

1059
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 9: struggled almost as much as their old right tackle Mike mclinchey,

1060
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 9: who's in Denver and has been one of the worst

1061
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 9: tackles in the league, is struggling, uh with the Broncos.

1062
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 9: So twenty ninth and pass blocking. Can we show up

1063
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 9: Cavon Tivoda. I'm I'm pretty high on Kevon, but he's

1064
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 9: had virtually no impact through through two weeks and the

1065
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 9: rest of their pass.

1066
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 7: I mean twice your age plus a few years. That's concerning, Right.

1067
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 6: You guys are on the way out.

1068
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 7: Wow, that is a deep He really is the worst interview.

1069
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: That is. That is not fair. I wasn't there.

1070
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 9: Well, No, Greg, we lived bridge the generational gas.

1071
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 8: That is the most Rosenthal response ever. No, that isn't fair.

1072
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 6: I haven't Dan and he went through that personal Vietnam together.

1073
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 6: You know, well, you were home state side as you

1074
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 6: defend a total stranger football player. Were your buds You're

1075
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 6: supposed to go? Yeah, what's his problem? He was so

1076
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 6: mean to you guys.

1077
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 9: This is what I was talking about. I'm the bad guy,

1078
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 9: you know. I mean, I play the heel. I'm just

1079
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 9: saying when he was here, we were all great friends.

1080
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 7: Right.

1081
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: No wait, he said we were. Just give me something

1082
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 3: cave on because I'm worried there's a more cavan.

1083
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 7: I just that's fun going down memory lane with Kevon Thibodeaux.

1084
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: The difference between me and you guys will feel it like,

1085
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: once I leave this, you guys are gonna feel like

1086
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: you know me and it's not because I'm I want

1087
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: to I want to be you guys as friends, but

1088
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: it's because I'm afany.

1089
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: But you do want to beer problem.

1090
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 7: I don't you were there for that one.

1091
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: I thought that was great, great spirit. Yeah, we need more.

1092
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 7: One solo tackle for cave On in two weeks.

1093
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 9: We need more because their linebackers actually have played a

1094
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 9: little better than I expected, but their vulnerable Deontay Banks

1095
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 9: got lit up a little.

1096
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: Are you?

1097
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 9: You mentioned might not play in this game because of

1098
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 9: because of his shoulder injury. Sounds like an acy joint

1099
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 9: spring must but.

1100
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 6: There's a matching situation if you're gonna talk about the

1101
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 6: Niners offensive line like the Giants offensive line up until

1102
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 6: there are four touchdown surge in the second half.

1103
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 7: Last week has been a disaster this season.

1104
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 9: Joe Than sacked ten times, and Steve Wilks, you have

1105
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 9: noticed a little difference out of him with forty nine

1106
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 9: ers definitely blitzing more. And he's just had a real

1107
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 9: nice knack in both games of getting free rushers to

1108
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 9: the quarterback.

1109
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 3: So that that's concerning, all.

1110
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: Right, Let's and we all like the Niners, I assume

1111
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 2: is Thursday Night's weird though that's one other thing. Maybe

1112
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: it's a weird Thursday night situation or watching a game.

1113
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 9: But there's a lot of Giants fans in the Big

1114
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 9: Bell Bottom that that might be about.

1115
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 7: That's a tough travel ask you're going on a Thursday night.

1116
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 6: I just think they've lived at weekend the San Francisco

1117
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: and then drive like an hour and twelve minutes together.

1118
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying they live there.

1119
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 9: They live there, you know the transplants, Oh giants travel

1120
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 9: in that in that stadium is Yeah.

1121
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 3: Often that's a good visiting representation.

1122
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 8: I will say.

1123
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: My fear is that this will have a good, healthy

1124
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: deficit for the the Giants at halftime again and it

1125
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: might not be that easy to come back. But I'd

1126
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: like to be wrong. Yeah, where we had on al

1127
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: Michael's kirk kurb Street by the way, just I can't

1128
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: they can't seem to lock in chemistry wise.

1129
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 7: I don't. I I don't.

1130
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 6: I think I care a little bit less about the

1131
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 6: announcing team than you two seem too. At times they're

1132
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 6: they're kind of vanilla to me. Uh, they don't have

1133
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 6: a deep connection. But I don't think herbs. I think

1134
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 6: people keep people killing herbs Street.

1135
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: He's fine, he's fine. He's fine.

1136
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 8: I'm not killing it.

1137
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 6: But I hear people saying like, oh, you could have

1138
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 6: been someone else. It's like, sure, it could have been

1139
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 6: someone else.

1140
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 9: He's fine, he's fine. It's a primetime spot. So if

1141
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 9: you're doing the power rankings of different announcer groups, Al

1142
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 9: helps this group overall, although he's not the same as

1143
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 9: he once was, but they're they're more in the middle.

1144
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 9: And you want the prime times to be the best

1145
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 9: four or five groups, and to me, they're they're more

1146
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 9: in the middle.

1147
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 6: Just a hair as much as he used to about Oh,

1148
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 6: I think he cares. I'm not saying he doesn't. I

1149
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 6: think he's He is one of the top two or

1150
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 6: three guys. Ever, at what he does, it's just like,

1151
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 6: is this a bit of a mail in for the

1152
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 6: whole scenario.

1153
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1154
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go there.

1155
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 7: I think it's why am I talking? I don't now.

1156
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 6: I said you don't care. I saw anti El Michael.

1157
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 6: I think it's like a legend.

1158
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: My moderate hot take is that even if Al isn't

1159
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: throwing a ninety eight mile a Howard heat or anymore,

1160
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: he could throw ninety two and he could look. Yeah, okay,

1161
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: I think Al should still be in the SUNDA and

1162
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: a football guy with Chris and I think Tarrico and

1163
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: Herb Street maybe even would have been a better team.

1164
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: This is like that to Rico a couple years ago.

1165
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 6: I like Rico, Okay, I like just like almore. Al

1166
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 6: to me still is box office and I wish he

1167
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 6: was still on Sunday. I just don't like Thursday Night now.

1168
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 6: Michael's doesn't.

1169
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 9: I will say that, you know, if the prime executives

1170
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 9: are listening, and I know they're huge fans of the show.

1171
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I mean I do love me a little

1172
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 9: next Gen Stats feed with Walker on Thursdays. I want

1173
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 9: it on more, more games. I just love that view

1174
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 9: good and you mix it in. It's a fun way

1175
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 9: to watch a game.

1176
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 7: All right, Let's move to Sunday night football.

1177
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: It is the Pittsburgh Steelers back in primetime against the

1178
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders. This is at Allegiant Elite Allegiant Allegian Stadium,

1179
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: and it's interesting. It's an interesting, interesting spot. You get

1180
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 2: the Raiders here in primetime. It's always a good vibe.

1181
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: I think in that building. I like that stadium. I

1182
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: like the vibe on primetime games. It's usually pretty hot

1183
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: and spicy. Pittsburgh fans are maniacs, so they will travel

1184
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 2: in there. You're gonna get some good vibes in there.

1185
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: So I like the idea of the setup here. I

1186
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: do not like the way the Raiders played on Sunday.

1187
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 2: They got boat raced by the Bills. However, I don't

1188
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: think there are maybe three or four teams in the

1189
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: whole league I think that would have went up to

1190
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo and played well. I think they were kind of

1191
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: putting a very bad spot by what happened in Week

1192
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: one for Buffalo at the Meadowlands. So then you got

1193
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: to figure out mark what's going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1194
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 8: Is this team?

1195
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: They can can put them in your own backyard at

1196
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: Akroshore or whatever that is, and with that crowd going

1197
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: ape poop, they can still get hot. They can make

1198
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: plays on defense and steal a game like they did.

1199
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: But are they going to travel and is this offense

1200
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: which has been a major question mark, are they going

1201
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: to be able to do enough on the road in

1202
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: this spot?

1203
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 7: Yes, I think they can.

1204
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 6: I mean, if we're gonna make an argument for the

1205
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 6: Giants against the Niners.

1206
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 7: I absolutely think that Pittsburgh, he didn't really.

1207
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 6: By the way, well, we're looking for ways they can

1208
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 6: you know, puncture on the road, and like I think,

1209
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 6: I think that the Raiders are very vulnerable. When I

1210
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 6: trusted the Raiders or began to trust them a year ago,

1211
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 6: it was based on, you know, a ground game that

1212
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 6: a couple of times. Well, but I'm saying why I

1213
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 6: trusted the Raiders. Here goes I got when they punctured

1214
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 6: people on the ground, like in two games they ran

1215
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 6: for sixty one yards in the in Week one, you know,

1216
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 6: in a win over a pretty flat line Denver Broncos

1217
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 6: team and fifty five against the Bills, and Josh Jacobs,

1218
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 6: who should be the centerpiece of your offense, doesn't show up,

1219
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 6: concerns me. Their offensive line, which they did very little

1220
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 6: to change over the course of the offseason, concerns me.

1221
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 6: And you're gonna get this version of Jimmy g in

1222
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 6: a post Kyle Shanahan universe that's throwing throwing interceptions like

1223
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 6: they march down the field against Buffalo for that opening

1224
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 6: touchdown and then no showed the rest of the game.

1225
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 6: I just I don't trust them to absolutely just take

1226
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 6: care of.

1227
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: Thegain to do it.

1228
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 7: No, because these are two strange teams.

1229
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: Nobody's saying that the Raiders are expected to take care

1230
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: of business here.

1231
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 9: The version of shockingly favored by two and a half.

1232
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 9: Maybe that shouldn't be shocked as.

1233
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 7: Shocking at home.

1234
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 8: That's a very I feel like shocked.

1235
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 9: I think the Steelers are significantly I would better, I would.

1236
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 8: Say based on what we've seen.

1237
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: Just what we've seen from the Steelers, there's I don't

1238
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: see a lot of reasons because you're not going to

1239
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: score fourteen points of their.

1240
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 7: Defense very often I've seen it.

1241
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 8: I am very.

1242
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: Concerned about their ability to go on the road and

1243
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: score points. Like what confidence should we have to take

1244
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: out of those first one weeks?

1245
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 9: It's partly matchup base. They played the forty nine ers

1246
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 9: in Browns. There is not much confidence. Well, Kenny Pickett

1247
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 9: needs to calm down. Those are two top three defenses

1248
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 9: so far. Yeah, but their defense is it's so helpless.

1249
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 9: Though it's a division defense too that that knows them.

1250
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: But he shouldn't be this bad.

1251
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 9: He's he's thirty first the in PFF in terms of

1252
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 9: their grades in a clean pocket, I thought That was

1253
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 9: interesting because it shows it's not all about the pass protection.

1254
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 9: When they've protected Kenny Pickett, he's looked a little lost,

1255
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 9: and Troy was quite hard on him. Whenever Troy's hard

1256
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 9: on the QBS, it's on my radar because he knows

1257
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 9: and I don't think he wants to be. But he

1258
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 9: was more or less saying Picket is scrambled right now,

1259
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 9: and I don't think the coordinator helps him. And this

1260
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 9: is a much easier matchup, and they they should be better.

1261
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 9: But I came into this year more worried that, Hey,

1262
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 9: Mike Tomlin, we've been waiting for a special Steelers defense

1263
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 9: actually for a while. If you get it, this could

1264
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 9: be a really good team. Their defense has been special,

1265
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 9: or it was last week certainly, uh, And I think

1266
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 9: they can hold Vegas down, but I'm just worried about

1267
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 9: where where Pickett's head is at. This is the easier matchup, though.

1268
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: Put it this way, if the Steelers' offense tanks this week,

1269
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: you're very concerned, like it's it, it becomes a panic situation.

1270
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 6: Well, you could have a coordinator switch at some point,

1271
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 6: like Tomlin is now getting asked about Matt Canada regularly

1272
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 6: and like what is special about Matt?

1273
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 7: Literally?

1274
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: I hate when the good blame like this, Like we

1275
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: just said that from a clean pocket, pickets not playing well,

1276
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: like but is it really like? And then and if

1277
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: every if Matt Canna is bad is like here on

1278
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: this podcast every year like Tomlin thought him well enough

1279
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: to keep him in the building. It was surprising and

1280
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: they looked spectacular this summer and through the preseason, and

1281
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: now it's his fault.

1282
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 9: Well, I think he was the most surprising coordinator to

1283
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 9: be retained by any team. I think it was almost

1284
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 9: a FATA complee among Steelers fans and observers that he

1285
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 9: was going to go at the end of last year,

1286
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 9: and then they rallied and I think that saved his job. Offensively, uh,

1287
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 9: he's going against an offense a defense though that's not

1288
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 9: getting any pressure right now. Max Crosby is all worldly,

1289
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 9: but you saw last week the Bills did everything possible

1290
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 9: to try to take him out. He's still got his hurries,

1291
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 9: but no one else is to Taylor Jones still Stanlor Jones.

1292
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 9: We haven't heard any update. I'd be surprised if he

1293
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 9: returns to this team. Tyree Wilson is a top ten pick.

1294
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 9: He's had forty seven pressures. I mean it's forty seven

1295
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 9: pass rush snaps this year. Dan, would you like to

1296
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 9: guess how many in terms of pass rush win rate

1297
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 9: he has won?

1298
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 7: Oh, this doesn't say forty seven.

1299
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say four percent.

1300
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: Zero.

1301
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 7: Okay, he's trying to be nice.

1302
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: He's oh for forty seven.

1303
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 9: He has a hurry, But if you go watch the hurry,

1304
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 9: it's just, uh, he loses the rep pretty clearly. And

1305
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 9: at one point, after like four seconds, Russell Wilson's just

1306
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 9: kind of runs over to his side and I guess

1307
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 9: that can.

1308
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 7: I love about you, Greg, Yeah, you check that out.

1309
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 9: I did want to see that one hurry and then

1310
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 9: I saw that zero percent. I mean that's and then

1311
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 9: they got this other guy, Malcolm Coons. They got it's tough.

1312
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 9: They said he was not much of a pastor.

1313
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 6: Het reporters said that he was gassed in week one,

1314
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 6: like wasn't really looking to be in great shape either.

1315
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 6: So that's a concerning first round pick. I would say

1316
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 6: this about Pittsburgh. You played the Niners, you played the

1317
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 6: Browns like again, top defens is like you got the Raiders,

1318
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 6: you got the Texans, a week from now. Let's see

1319
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 6: where we are off the week four with Pittsburgh's offense.

1320
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 6: I just I think this was late. Need this for

1321
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 6: your twelve wins.

1322
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: Well to the.

1323
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 6: Twelve win thing is like what You're one and one,

1324
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 6: so it's not impossible, but like they're not looking the

1325
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 6: way I thought they would expect from Kenny Pickett on down.

1326
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 9: I also want to keep an eye on Jimmy and

1327
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 9: Davante just he's getting the ball to him. Davante looks

1328
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 9: like Davante, but there's nothing over twenty yards, you know.

1329
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 9: I think of DeVante, I think a big place that's

1330
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 9: not really Jimmy's thing, and so that's just something to

1331
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 9: watch because the catches Davante's making are like, I feel

1332
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 9: like he's getting blasted every time he gets.

1333
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: It, where those like Crosser, Yeah, he's a gazelle just

1334
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: going diagonally toward the end zone.

1335
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 7: Would see some of that stuff would be nice.

1336
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: You're right though, at Vegas at Houston, plenty of time

1337
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: to figure this out on offense.

1338
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 7: But let's see it.

1339
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 9: I like the Steelers to win this straight up two

1340
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 9: and a half point dogs. I do get what the

1341
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 9: Sunday Night people are doing here, though, I was like,

1342
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 9: this is the Sunday Naked, it's week three, it's early

1343
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 9: before the records are crazy if it happens to you,

1344
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 9: and these are two of the biggest audiences you got that.

1345
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 7: Vegas, Baby Vegas.

1346
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: That's the way they think about those things. All Right,

1347
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: Monday night got two games, Mark, this has been a

1348
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: tough Sessler week. You have been pretty fired up behind

1349
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: the scenes about a number of things. That night, I was,

1350
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: But on Monday you were, I would say, based on

1351
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: tax alone, fairly furious about having to watch two games

1352
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: at once.

1353
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 6: So if I were just like out on the town, right,

1354
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 6: I'd be fine with two games on it once or

1355
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 6: ten on it once. But like, this is more of

1356
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 6: a personal work preparation type thing, which is like if

1357
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 6: you know, if you have a job you hate, like

1358
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 6: you're saying, shut up, you get to go do this,

1359
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 6: So I get it.

1360
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 7: So I hate.

1361
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 6: Complaining about the role in general. But it's like when

1362
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 6: you have two games on it once, like and we're

1363
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 6: we're trying to take notes on both games, make observations

1364
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 6: because we're going to talk about it ten minutes later.

1365
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, you don't have a full night

1366
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 6: to go rewatch the kind of thing. So it's like,

1367
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 6: this is like Sundays at ten am here on the

1368
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 6: West Coast when you got ten games exploding. I've got

1369
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 6: an ear piece from one game, yep in one ear

1370
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 6: and then the other. And so you've got multiple commercials

1371
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 6: for both feeds happening, you got facts and figures flying,

1372
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 6: you got two Yeah, trying to watch both things at

1373
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 6: the same time. So I can like, I know Greg's

1374
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 6: has just turned the sound off on one, but like

1375
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:43,479
Speaker 6: I don't.

1376
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 7: I like to process visually, and like here trying to

1377
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 7: drive yourself games each year thing after we get out

1378
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 7: of Sunday's crazy.

1379
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 6: It's crazy, but like on Monday choice, but we're used

1380
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 6: to on Monday night having like one game and it's

1381
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 6: like I can either watch it alone with friends and

1382
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 6: like take notes and we do our show after, and

1383
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 6: it's like this, there's something peaceful about focusing on one event.

1384
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 6: And so when you're giving me two at the same

1385
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 6: time and you're you're doing this on Monday night, I

1386
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 6: don't know who's winning because by the way, you're pairing

1387
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 6: typically a good game with in these two weeks, the

1388
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 6: second game, the second Monday night game is clearly a

1389
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 6: lower card, a lower bill, and I got to deal

1390
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 6: with Panthers Saints while I'm trying to watch Brown Steelers

1391
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 6: get out of my hair.

1392
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 9: It's interesting though they care they flipped which game is

1393
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 9: on ABC because that I think the Eagles game egles Buck.

1394
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 9: The earlier game is this week because this week if

1395
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 9: if Joe Burrow is healthy, they're both fun games. They're

1396
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 9: both pretty good games. But Joe, but.

1397
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 6: No one expected the Rams to be like the Rams

1398
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 6: came in as a lower billing.

1399
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah right, you're right. I'm with you.

1400
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 9: I don't need to hear about the guy who's selling

1401
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 9: windows at a lesser expensive cost because his dad.

1402
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 3: Did you know that? Right?

1403
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 6: That commercial is happening twice at the same time, and

1404
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 6: if at that the apartment window opened, I would jump out.

1405
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 3: I just like I would.

1406
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 9: I liked when they did the Monday Nights where they

1407
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 9: were at different times. That's all one at a time, right, But.

1408
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 7: I'd be fine with that.

1409
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 5: I am.

1410
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 3: I'm not saying more football.

1411
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 7: Oh it's more football, So it's like I get it.

1412
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 6: It's great, but it's just like when you're trying to

1413
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 6: hit your basically coming at me with two snowstorms.

1414
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: A couple of things, A couple of things. This is

1415
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: all great. I understand where you come from.

1416
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 7: You've you've had words about it.

1417
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 2: You've so oh, I'm with you. So I'm with you too.

1418
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: One thing. I'll throw this out there. Yeah, Monday Night football.

1419
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: One of the games, the main game quote unquote Steelers

1420
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: Browns may be a little bit heightened Mark Sessler in

1421
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: that moment.

1422
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 8: Uh.

1423
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: And so the fact that there's this second game is

1424
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: leading to a level of agitation that maybe takes Greg

1425
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: and Dana back a little bit. And then you start,

1426
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: you know, piecing together some of the the logic. You know,

1427
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 2: the legos start clicking together. Yeah, Okay. The other part

1428
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: is and this is pulling back the curtain. My beloved

1429
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: puppy Captain gets clipped by a car in the middle.

1430
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 7: Of this game. Terrible.

1431
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: So I'm racing the dog to the vet and thankfully,

1432
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: by the grace of goad, he just got kind of

1433
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: banged on the snout and he had a laceration on

1434
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: his nose and he got stitches.

1435
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 7: And the driver just took off, by the way, right.

1436
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: Didn't run piece. I'll find you up. You're going down yep, Okay,

1437
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: but let's stay on topic. So I let you guys

1438
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 2: know that, Hey, guys, I'm disconnected from both these games.

1439
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 7: I'm at the vet. Okay.

1440
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: Uh And and the first the first text is mark

1441
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: from you. That's terrible. We'll handle tonight. That's I think

1442
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: trying to handle that, and we'll handle this. Yeah, love it.

1443
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's not just a great colleague, it's

1444
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 7: a great friend. Yea.

1445
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: Then some things go sideways in Cleveland world. And there

1446
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: are twelve consecutive texts on this thread while I'm in

1447
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: the waiting room waiting to find out if my dog's

1448
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: gonna live. I didn't know how serious it was at first,

1449
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: and I don't know. I don't need to read these.

1450
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 7: I don't remember what I wrote. Do you want to

1451
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 7: throw in a couple of great I don't, okay, I.

1452
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: Don't want to read it.

1453
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 9: This is like it's PTSD for me too. Even though

1454
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 9: I didn't have the dog situation, I was trying to.

1455
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 9: I was do live on on Channel five in the UK,

1456
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 9: doing the game, trying to have fun. It's a long

1457
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 9: day for alls with very emotional right and I'm starting

1458
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 9: to feel this market gee, I'm sinking me down and

1459
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 9: I don't want that.

1460
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 7: I well, I apologize for that. Greg. I forgot that

1461
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 7: you were on live television in another country.

1462
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 8: So one guy's on live TV.

1463
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: The other guy's on the vet, crossing his fingers that

1464
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: his dog still has a pulse.

1465
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 7: And then you got me. It started out good.

1466
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 6: I was a good professional out of the gate, and

1467
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 6: then it went south. It can't it's hard to you know.

1468
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 3: You know what, though it was showtime, great attitude shows up.

1469
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, absolutely, very great, very good attitude.

1470
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: It's like, sir, we're now ready to give you the

1471
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: information based on our tests about your dog and potential

1472
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: fatal internal injuries. Oh hold on one second, I've got

1473
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: seventeen text in row. Must be a major emergency. Oh

1474
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: never mind, Okay, go ahead.

1475
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 7: All right, it's very fair. It's very fair.

1476
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: You're very passionate. That's the mask slipped a little bit there.

1477
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: That's all to say the least.

1478
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 9: Your passion is what makes you excellent, though, so you

1479
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 9: don't want to take away.

1480
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: It's like Josh Allen's playmaking.

1481
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 9: It's like that's a good You're going to get some interceptions,

1482
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 9: but you don't want to take that away.

1483
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 8: From anybody else.

1484
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: Anybody else is sending texts like that, knowing the situation

1485
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: I was in, I have an issue with it with you.

1486
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 7: I was like, I know why. I also on my

1487
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 7: phone because.

1488
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: It was the Nick Chubb night, and I said, I

1489
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: get it, you did, and you just want to shout

1490
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: it at something or connect with somebody about how unfair.

1491
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 7: And cruel the world can be. Yep, I got it.

1492
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 6: And I know you're quizzing me always about the Browns

1493
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 6: Fantom thing and like they're but something clicked in that

1494
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 6: night when that happened, and then you're losing on national

1495
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 6: television for like the eight hundredth time in my life

1496
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 6: to the Pittsburgh Steelers on primetime and everyone's giggling and

1497
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 6: laughing and your season's gone down the toilet. I started

1498
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 6: to get agitated and it started to dwell up of

1499
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 6: old emotions. Then it's like, what I'm gonna do. I'm

1500
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 6: gonna text my coworkers angry and Ray.

1501
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 9: I'm gonna take my misery and you're gonna be part

1502
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 9: of this credit to them.

1503
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 7: But that's I get that.

1504
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been there, Yes, my friend.

1505
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 7: Only a week ago.

1506
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 6: You were there, so I if anything, now understand more

1507
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 6: where you were a week ago?

1508
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: So I was the Rogers thing straight up catatonic, So

1509
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: there was no text thing.

1510
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 8: Don't text me, I'm not texting anyone.

1511
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in that state as well, more of

1512
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: a rageful state.

1513
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: I would say.

1514
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 6: In the Rogers thing, we knew Greg and I like

1515
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 6: unspoken did we text you? Oh that's so terrible, what

1516
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 6: a terrible you guys got it too, total silences. We

1517
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 6: know what's going on there.

1518
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 7: Nailed it. Let's get to these games.

1519
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: So there's two games again Jesus Christ for Heaven's sake,

1520
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: but no, and it's happening again fourteen So last this once, uh,

1521
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: this year they're doing three times, and I do fear

1522
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: for you Mark that if they If it was once

1523
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: last year, it's three times this year.

1524
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, this this tank has no reverse gears, and

1525
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 9: I think it's going on.

1526
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 6: That's probably where my agitation. That's it's like it's net.

1527
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 6: They never retract. The idea just grows and compounds the.

1528
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: Amount of eye Oh high high Pandora's box if it

1529
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: opens and demons.

1530
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 7: Fly out, Yeah, ruining our primetime follow.

1531
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: Mark and the Covenant, Philadelphia, Eagles at Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1532
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 3: Yes, game two teams.

1533
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, this is a great this is great. You

1534
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 8: know why I like this.

1535
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: I gotta say, of course I'm not as high on

1536
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: Baker's chances this season, but it's undeniable that Baker Mayfield

1537
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: has played well for the better part of I would

1538
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: say the last six quarters. Shaky first half in Week one,

1539
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: great in the second half, played very good football last

1540
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: week got ten, but by two and zero. I love it. Next,

1541
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: so you have two things that are great here. You

1542
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: have a great Philadelphia defense, defending conference champions, but you're

1543
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: sending him on the road, and you have Baker in

1544
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: one of his little Baker zones. And I just think

1545
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: one way or the other Baker zone. Yeah, one way

1546
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: or the other, it's going to be explosive.

1547
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 7: It's either gonna be feeling pretty dangerous.

1548
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Baker like exploding like a firework or

1549
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: going up in flames like a dumpster fire, where that

1550
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: confidence is either going to betray him or it's gonna

1551
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: take this team even higher. And then everyone's talking about

1552
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: the Bucks on Tuesday morning.

1553
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 9: I am really excited for this game for that reason too,

1554
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 9: And I'm hopeful there could be a middle ground. And

1555
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 9: I've never been a big Baker guy. I think he's

1556
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 9: been very frustrating to watch. But what I've liked about

1557
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 9: him this year is with this offense and people saying, oh,

1558
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 9: you know, it takes a long time, he he looks

1559
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 9: more comfortable in this offense than I've seen him in

1560
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 9: a really long time. On time showing in anticipation. That's

1561
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 9: what I've never really seen, not a Baker like throwing

1562
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 9: the ball before the receivers make their cuts. And when

1563
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 9: you have Godwin and Evans, you can really trust in

1564
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 9: those guys and that maybe there is a balance where

1565
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 9: they don't win this game. And he's not sensational, but

1566
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 9: he's okay, he's solid. Because if if that's the Baker

1567
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 9: we get this year, and that's the one we've seen

1568
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 9: so far, I think they're a fun team to watch,

1569
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 9: and there are some spots in this Eagles defense you

1570
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 9: can attack. Their off ball linebackers are not great in coverage,

1571
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 9: and they lost Avonte Maddox their slot corner, and who.

1572
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 3: Is his backup.

1573
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 9: It was a guy Zach Macpherson who's also out for

1574
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 9: the season. So they're they around their third slot corner.

1575
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 9: They're you know, the middle of the field is a

1576
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 9: little mushy there, and I think the e Buck's gonna

1577
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 9: attack him that way.

1578
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 7: I really like.

1579
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 6: What Philadelphia did on the ground last week after they

1580
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 6: got they've been they I think them coming out of

1581
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 6: the gates slow has been one of the more surprising

1582
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 6: elements of the season.

1583
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 7: You have a double coordinator switch.

1584
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 6: I thought on offense there'd be a lot of seamless

1585
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 6: transition because he was the QB coach a year ago.

1586
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 7: He's known jail and hurts for so long.

1587
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 6: But last year in a or last week in a jam,

1588
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 6: like to come out and run for two hundred and

1589
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 6: fifty nine yards, to own the ball for twenty one

1590
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 6: minutes in the first half, and really like the Vikings

1591
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 6: climb back into that. But it's you're doing that on

1592
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 6: offense and then on defense they completely two weeks in

1593
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 6: a row. Patriots held to seventy six yards on the

1594
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 6: ground Vikings twenty eight. The Vikings were a one dimensional attack.

1595
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 6: So if you can take Tampa's offense and make it

1596
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 6: they're not a great run team to be in with,

1597
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 6: but make them very one dimensional and put a lot

1598
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 6: of it on Baker Mayfield and you got guys like

1599
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 6: Jail and Carter looking fantastic out of the gate as

1600
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 6: a rookie. Like, I think this is a situation where

1601
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 6: we see Philadelphia starting to come into their own and

1602
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 6: heat up, and the Baker thing, I'm with you, it's

1603
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 6: been impressive, but like, do we trust that to continue?

1604
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 6: Do we trust the Bucks continue? His connection with the

1605
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 6: Mike Evans though, has been very special, Like when we

1606
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 6: talk about Devonte Adams and Jimmy g Like, Baker and

1607
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 6: Evans have done a better job than Tom Brady and

1608
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 6: Evans did a year ago.

1609
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: Evans looks better. I won't lock this game that.

1610
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 9: I thought about it for a second and I was like, no,

1611
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 9: you know, I'm giving the I'm giving the Bowls Sons

1612
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 9: enough credit. Where he's going against a quarterback that's struggling.

1613
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 9: To me, that's the number one story in this game.

1614
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 9: It's one of the number one stories in the NFL

1615
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,440
Speaker 9: so far this season that Jalen Hurts has looked uncomfortable,

1616
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 9: little indecisive just when he's back there in the pocket.

1617
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 9: They haven't really used the quarterback run game either. That

1618
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 9: might they might go back to that but they've they

1619
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 9: kind of started the season not doing that and he

1620
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 9: just hasn't. He hasn't been as decisive. And Bowls is

1621
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 9: a great test.

1622
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 8: You know.

1623
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 9: This is the Bucks team that really made him struggle

1624
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 9: in that playoff game and had everyone wondering if Jalen

1625
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 9: Hurts could really make a jump going into last season,

1626
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 9: and he did it.

1627
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: And Bowles will throw a lot at you.

1628
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 9: And I think that's a good challenge for Hurts early

1629
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 9: in the season when he's he's definitely not playing that

1630
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 9: well through two games. Only two games, but it's two games.

1631
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 9: It's quite surprised.

1632
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 6: You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna I am

1633
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 6: gonna do it. Oh wow, I'm locking up the Eagles

1634
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 6: on the road.

1635
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 7: This could be fatal. I'm owing to in the low

1636
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 7: You're you're a wounded animal yourself. Yeah, and the Locks

1637
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 7: need this. I'm a tense I'm a tenth team on

1638
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 7: that list. But here's the thing, because I I was

1639
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 7: thinking the other.

1640
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 6: You imagine me if I lose my lock on Monday

1641
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 6: night while two Monday night games are happening, this timmer I.

1642
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 7: Made Oh no, no, oh god no. And it's the

1643
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 7: earlier the earlier game.

1644
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: My thought here is I like the Eagles bringing the

1645
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 2: Bucks down to earth.

1646
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 7: Here, what's the spread? Is it even lockerwer in a half?

1647
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1648
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 2: But I don't want to root against Baker. I I

1649
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: don't want to be like, oh god, I don't want

1650
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: you know.

1651
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 7: I hope he.

1652
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: Doesn't continue playing well because I want a fun, like

1653
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 2: crazy game. I'm staying away from time time this week.

1654
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: I'm doing a lock on the Sunday games.

1655
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1656
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 8: Uh, let's just get back to that world.

1657
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: But you will be now actively rooting against Baker, which

1658
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: I know you always like Baker.

1659
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 7: So that's a toughie. You're in it.

1660
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 2: You're in an interesting spot yourself here.

1661
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 7: I don't see it as a it's a lot of

1662
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 7: energy anti Baker.

1663
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:54,799
Speaker 3: I fear.

1664
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 9: I fear for Monday Night. Maybe take there. I will

1665
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 9: not take that dan catatonic approach.

1666
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 6: I vowed Greg, I will not text you at all

1667
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 6: on Monday.

1668
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 7: Now, it's fine, I will not. You're on live television

1669
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 7: in another nations, Fine, all right.

1670
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 8: The other Monday Night game.

1671
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: Is the Cincinnati Bengals at home against the LA Rams.

1672
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, the Mangles zero and two.

1673
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: It really helps schedule wise, a little bit of a

1674
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: break here that Burrow is getting another day here, and

1675
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: maybe that that helps. We shall see if Joe Burrow

1676
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: plays or not. If Joe Burrow doesn't play, I mean,

1677
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: who's Jake Browning?

1678
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I no think if he didn't play, I don't

1679
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 9: know if we'll have this information. I think I'd lock

1680
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 9: up the Rams, but at this point I'm not going

1681
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 9: to do that.

1682
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, like, because of the catastrophe with

1683
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, we have a whole bunch of jacked at

1684
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: primetime games coming up on the schedule. I do not

1685
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: need to see the backup quarterback of the Bengals on

1686
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: Monday Night.

1687
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,879
Speaker 8: So let's just hope Burrow plays.

1688
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: And you know what, I'd like to see like a

1689
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: gutty Burrow effort where he kind of shreds and I

1690
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: think he can against the Rams in this spot.

1691
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he can too. I think his struggles

1692
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 9: were overstated last week. There was a couple drives early

1693
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 9: and they just didn't have the ball much where there's

1694
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 9: a drop and guy was out of bounds.

1695
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: I think Burrow played well.

1696
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 9: I think it was a pretty normal Burrow game aside

1697
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 9: from the interception that's a big that's a big aside.

1698
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 9: He doesn't throw many red zone interceptions, but I think

1699
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 9: he played well. And I don't think this Rams defense

1700
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 9: is as much as they're doing as well as they

1701
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,799
Speaker 9: can and they think they found a couple of rookies

1702
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 9: they liked in Kobe Turner and Byron Young.

1703
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: That's what the seede's all about.

1704
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 9: I think they're going to be a bottom ten defense

1705
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 9: at best, but I think they're Quarterback Matthew Stafford's playing

1706
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 9: so fast right now, making decisions quickly, and he's on

1707
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 9: the same page with Puka. He's like sending the same

1708
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 9: little pre snap signals to Puka that he would do

1709
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 9: with Robert Woods. We've been comparing Puka to Cooper Cup,

1710
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 9: but our friend Jordan rod Rigg's been comparing him to

1711
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 9: Robert Woods. And she's smarter when it comes to a

1712
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 9: lot of things, but definitely the Rams, and I think

1713
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 9: that makes sense that he's sort of in that Robert

1714
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 9: Woods's role, and man, I love that, and I love

1715
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 9: Stafford against his defense, who hasn't had any pass rush

1716
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 9: through two weeks. That's what I mean about the Bengals

1717
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 9: where I was like, just like a little like, huh,

1718
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 9: what's going on with the Bengals? Really got steamrolled last

1719
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 9: week defensively.

1720
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: I also but we like we like Captain Lou Yeah,

1721
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: I did get it together?

1722
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 8: Are we like?

1723
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,919
Speaker 2: I just think it's it could sometimes be deceiving, especially

1724
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: given the offense is funk and why it probably isn't

1725
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: such a funk that I'm just not.

1726
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 7: I feel like they're gonna kick.

1727
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 9: It might be right that we're overreacting, but if he's

1728
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 9: not playing in this game, then they could be zero

1729
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 9: and three, and that's that's a problem.

1730
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 6: I it's that injury just concerns me because it's just

1731
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 6: seems like there's such a realistic chance that that nags

1732
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 6: him all year.

1733
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

1734
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 6: I kind of agree with Greg on some of the

1735
01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 6: Zach Taylor critique because, yeah, you taking a T into

1736
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 6: a super Bowl, but this is two years in a

1737
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 6: row where like you've come out of the gate real slow,

1738
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 6: and it isn't all because of Burrow's health. It's you

1739
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 6: can't just pin it all on his calf and like

1740
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 6: that you put your team's been.

1741
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 7: All right, that's it. What I wasn't gonna do it.

1742
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: I was gonna move to Sundays, but Joseph Burrow plays

1743
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 2: this football game, and that's the coat I am locking

1744
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: up the Bengals.

1745
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 8: I don't want to hear it.

1746
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear Captain Louslander Zach Tayler is up.

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: Bum don't want to hear it. Joe Burrow will ever

1748
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: be the same this year. I'm I know what this

1749
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: team is made of. They are a tough bunch of

1750
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: tough sbs and they are not gonna lose in their

1751
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 2: building and go zero to three under any circumstances if

1752
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: that man is on the field at quarterback.

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01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 8: So yes, give me the Bengals Cincinnati Zoo on.

1754
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: The same time decision.

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01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, what if it's a scenario where you've not locked

1756
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 6: the game all week and then you've locked the Bengals

1757
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 6: and then Burrow on we find out it's sick tough sitch.

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01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 7: I'm in a tough stitch. You could flip over to

1759
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 7: the Eagles, I guess if you If.

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01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 2: If it comes down to that, I'll have to do

1761
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 2: obviously an emergency pivot to the earlier game.

1762
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 8: But I don't want to do.

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01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 6: If there's such a tough team, why would you not

1764
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 6: lock them up with or without Brow?

1765
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 2: I guess they have a top three quarterback in the

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01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: whole league. I mean, is uh is more of a

1767
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: It's a good question.

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01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 8: It's fair.

1769
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 7: It's fair to say that talked about the whole roster,

1770
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 7: not just you're right.

1771
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: And yet I can't. I just can't ride with Jake.

1772
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 7: Can't ride with Jake.

1773
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 3: No.

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01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 9: I mean that would be crazier than what the Westling

1775
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 9: brothers did last week. In my humble opinion, the Rams

1776
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 9: have been a better team through two weeks than the Bengals,

1777
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 9: and then you throw Jake Brownie in there, forget about it.

1778
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 7: And if if.

1779
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: There's some discouraging reports come out in the next three

1780
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: or four days, I can get ahead of it and

1781
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 2: maybe moved back to Sunday.

1782
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 7: We'll see.

1783
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: But right now I think Joe barring a setback, even

1784
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 2: from where he was Sunday. He's thinking, I cannot not

1785
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 2: be on the field of my guys when we need

1786
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: this ball game.

1787
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 7: I believe it's about heart too. I like your luck.

1788
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 7: It's about her.

1789
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: We get hired, we gotta go. Hey, so again, thank

1790
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 2: you everybody. Uh, there are it's a technicality, but there

1791
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: are limited tickets still remaining. They might even be sold

1792
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: by now for the London show. Check our socials, the

1793
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: General on sales Friday. We have our Thursday preview coming up,

1794
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Recap and also NFL Plus with Colleen Wolfe

1795
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 2: special guests.

1796
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 8: You do not want to miss that one. I promise

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Speaker 8: you heed the call.