WEBVTT - Draft Show: A Lot Has Changed 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:09.600 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.360 war room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.400 within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frescope, 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:23.880 Dallas Cowboys like Ted Lamb and now your hosts Brian 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:29.920 brought us, David Hellman, Bucky Brooks and Kyle Yeomans. There 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:34.120 are one hundred and twenty days until the NFL Draft 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.800 in April twenty nine, twenty twenty one, will be here 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.600 before you know it. But the Draft Show continues on 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.400 here on talking cal or excuse me, on the Traft 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:49.000 Show presented by Miller like Gladger with us and well 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.640 the intro was Brian brought us up at the beginning 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.120 as always, talking about oh they took him one of 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.920 my favorite clips ever. Brian, thank you for giving that 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.120 radio gold for Cede Lamb whenever they selected CD Lamb. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.000 He's also got the gold in terms of the polo 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.840 he's got on. He's got that Miller light swag with 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.720 the Draft Show logo with the background, Dave's rocking the 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.040 varsity jacket, David Helmont with us as always, and then 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.399 we've got Bucky Brooks in the house coming from CALLI 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.280 on the West Coast streaming in live. That's the kind 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.400 of insight you get here on the Draft Show is 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.240 the fact that you've got over fifty years combined between 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.200 these three covering the NFL Draft, and no matter where 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.200 they are in the world, there's still a part of 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.559 the Draft Show. But boys, how we doing this week? 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.600 There's been a lot that's changed since the last time 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.000 we talked, Brian. I think the Cowboys went from what 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.600 could have been the fourth overall pick, they're now sitting 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:44.679 at eleven and a chance to still win the division. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.440 They're three and one since the Draft Show started, and 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.280 I think that has to credit what Derek Ingleton did 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.920 and starting the Draft Show back up. Well, yeah, absolutely, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.360 And you know that was one of those things when 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.440 you you know, you look at the order of the 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.080 draft at one time, you're you're sitting in the forehole 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.040 and you're looking at this board in a completely different light. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.880 And then you put some wins together and you have 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.640 a chance to win the division and now you're sitting 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.880 in somewhere near the middle of the board. And then 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.440 if you win and get in, you're now moving down further. So, yeah, 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.799 the right the dynamics of how the scouts even look 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.800 at it. You know, they're thinking, Okay, we're evaluating these players, 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.880 and now we're evaluating these players, and now we're evaluating 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.520 these players. So yeah, it's a it's a it's a 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.840 journey throughout. But you know, good for the Cowboys, good 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.959 for the fans, the opportunity to play in the playoffs. Said, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.399 wherever they land in the draft order, you know, we'll 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.800 be there to talk about it to every step of 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.680 the way. What do you think about this, Bucky, Because 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.960 I mean even from the last time we talk, the 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.360 Jets have won two straight games and the Jaguars have 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.840 locked up that top overall picks. Things continuously change in 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.440 the NFL, as I know we all have been aware of, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.480 but I mean even more so over the last couple 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:01.240 of weeks. Yeah, I think what you see is the 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.720 competitiveness of the league. And despite what we on the 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.520 outside talk about when it comes to draft picks and positioning, 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.200 players and coaches are trying to win each and every week. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:11.960 And we've seen that play out, and I think the 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.080 excitement that is building in Dallas, obviously it's about a 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.480 team that appears to be playing against best football going 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.760 down the stretch. And it's really a bit of a 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.160 blessing in the skies because now the draft positioning, we're 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.080 probably better aligned with what the needs are. And I 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.520 don't think you will have some of those tough conversations 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.960 that were existing before when the Cowboys were positioned in 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.840 the top five and we were talking about quarterbacks and 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.160 all that other stuff. Dave you agree with that, I'm 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:41.080 choosing to believe now I'm choosing to believe. Kyle. I'll 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.480 tell you this is our doing. Like you said, we 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.520 are responsible for this. You know, the players and coaches 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.200 on the team looked at our site and they're like, 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.600 holy crap, they're already talking about the draft. We gotta 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.640 do something about this and lo and behold. Yeah, honestly, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:02.000 it sounds counter intuitive because obviously, if you care about 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.120 the draft, you want the best pick possible, and you know, 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.880 maybe maybe being in the top five could have presented 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.880 you in a situation where you can trade down. But 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.720 I feel way, I know people are gonna say I'm 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.240 blowing smoke, but like, I feel way less stressed out 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.839 about picking between ten and sixteen than I do. I'm 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.960 I'm serious. Brian who are you Who are you gonna 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.320 pick with that top five pick? Who are you gonna take? 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.120 Oh we'll find is somebody to pick. Yeah, well we'll 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.720 find you know what, your quarterback situation hasn't resolved by 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.240 any means. Stop stop it, stop it. Oh no, you're 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.600 quite it's not it's not. And you know, and I 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.800 don't know people, and you know you've you know, yeah, 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.880 Bucky's right, This thing is now more line. You could 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.479 have taken one of those offensive linemen up there, but 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.600 you know that the quarterback was in play. You know 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.960 that that the tight end who was a freak athlete 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.279 was in play. I mean, there's a lot of things 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.440 to a lot of directions should go. I look at 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.200 it is this way though. I'm happy they're winning. I'm 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.280 happy they're having an opportunity for the division title. But 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.760 I'm also thinking about what could I have done picking 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.760 at the top of every single round and maybe moving 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.400 some things around in order to help my team. That's 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.279 the selfish scouted me, thinking about am I closer to 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.479 the Packers and the Saints and those people, or do 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.640 I need to get help to try and do that? 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.320 And picking high in every one of those spots at 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.280 least affords me that opportunity. I believe, Hey, and those things, 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.839 those things are not mutually exclusive. Like you can want 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.800 the Cowboys to win and still be disappointed. You're absolutely right, Like, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:44.160 I'm not that disappointed using a top ten pick. I'm 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:49.279 very disappointed about not having pick thirty five, thirty six, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.360 or pick sixty five, like those picks at the top 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.760 of the second, third, and fourth round. That's what gets 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.200 me excited. And you know, it's it's exciting what the 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.880 team is doing, but it's it's a little bit of 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:03.960 a bummer to know that, you know, those picks are 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:10.680 probably going to be more like six. Just just real quick, guys. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.680 I mean, we saw last week the Cowboys play the Eagles, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.880 and it looks like the Eagles have the same problems 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.320 that you have. You know that you look at their 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.039 defense and the secondary and now you're thinking, well, Philadelphia 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.600 is gonna be picking against ahead of us all day, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.680 you know, And that's and that's you know, when you 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.320 start you start thinking about Okay, and you could say 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.960 it about I guess all the teams, but especially a 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.400 team within your division. You see bad secondary play there, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.800 what's the one thing the Cowboys are clearly going to 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.640 have to address their secondary Philadelphia could be just picking 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.040 one player off every time, you know, on defense, and 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.400 you know that's that's that That to me is what stressful, Dave, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.680 when I have to walk that mind field of my 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.080 division opponents picking ahead of me, knowing that they've got 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.240 just as many issues on defense as I do. The 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:01.919 thing is, then, brand what you gotta do is you 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.359 gotta scout the scouts and how confident are you that 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.200 they can pick the right guys? And so it's looking 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.200 at them and saying, Okay, they have a need like 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.480 we have a need, but their track records suggested they 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.360 can't pick the right guy. We're not going to be 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.240 picking from maybe the same lot. And so I think 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.600 it's a situation where you probably feel better about the 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.000 team winning because I think it was probably more important 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.640 from a cultural standpoint that Mike McCarthy could fix the issues, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.960 because if you lose the belief of the players in 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.040 the locker room, I don't really know what twenty twenty 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:33.960 one would it look like if this team fell apart 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.400 going down the stretch. And I think you look at 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:41.160 the Philadelphia with their loss, they fall to sixth, and 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.560 they jump to six rather in the draft, so they're 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.920 gonna be picking above you, like Brian said, throughout the 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.640 rest of the draft. But outside of maybe those early 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.400 later round picks like the thirty five thirty six slide, 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.480 and then maybe then then the third round, fourth round, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.640 so on. Outside of the disappointment of not picking that 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.960 high in each round, it's also the options that you 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.760 have early on already have ten picks, You could have 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.960 had thirteen or fourteen if you wanted to trade out 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.080 of the top five to try and land back to 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.640 where you're ultimately going to be right here at this moment. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.080 But I kind of want to weld what both Brian 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.720 and Dave were talking about a moment ago and what 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.440 Bucky said in his opening statement. But with all the 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.800 uncertainty right now of what Dallas where they could be picking, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:20.880 I mean, they could lose this week and they're still 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.000 going to be in the top ten, or you could 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.760 win this week and not win the division. You're right 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.040 in the middle of the teens. And then if you 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.880 win the division, of course you're nineteen are up in 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.520 terms of the draft position, But what positions are out 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.120 there that you feel most comfortable about Bucky In terms 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.960 of drafting in the first round, do you think there 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.160 is a position that's out there that you feel more 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:47.480 comfortable picking than others. I think offensive tackles, I feel 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.880 really comfortable picking them. Where the Cowboys could be positioned 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.920 anywhere from eleven to nineteen or so. I think cornerbacks. 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.280 Depending on what style corner you're looking for, I think 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.120 you probably could feel good about maybe making a run there. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.840 I am really iffy on the pass rushers this year. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.560 I know there are a lot of names that would 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.680 be thrown out there, like Greg Russo from Miami or whatever. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.360 I just don't know. I don't feel that as comfortable 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.800 with those guys. But I do feel really good about 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.080 offensive tackles, cornerbacks, and I would even throw tight ends, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.959 even though I think everyone in Dallas would lose their 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.640 mind if they took another offensive player, particularly a pass 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:30.600 catching But I mean there's something to building strength on strength. Brian, Yeah, 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.840 I feel I agree with Bucky. You know, the more 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.839 that I've dived into what's going on, you know, And 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.160 I'll be honest with I watched a kid last night 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:43.200 from Wake Forest, this Carlos Basham the defensive end, and 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.679 I'm thinking, like, Okay, why is he a guy at 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.000 the bottom, near the bottom of the board when we're 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.520 talking about potential first round guys. Hey six four, two 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.960 hundred seventy four, two hundred and seventy five pounds, And 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.760 I'm thinking, well, why isn't he not up there? Because 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.280 Bucky's right, These defensive ends, man, there's so many questions 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.240 about and there's so many different body types and there's 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.320 so many levels of production. But you know, to me, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.200 it looks very strong with the with these offensive tackles. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.680 I think this quarterback group, we've kind of talked about 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.200 him and what we think about them. I'm interested in 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:21.040 these corners as well. You know, Bucky's right, depending on 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.240 what kind of guy, uh that you wanted at cornerback, 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.400 you know, you could you know. I was watching the 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.880 Kid from from Georgia the other day, and you know, 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.640 and I was just I was just kind of sitting 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.000 there in my and my mind thinking like, Okay, well, 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.480 you know this Tyson Campbell, and I'm thinking, Okay, he 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.240 looks good as a press corner. He's physical, Okay, can 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.920 he play in this style? The Cowboys going to switch 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.840 their their their their their scheme. You know, everybody's got 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.400 a little bit different fit. But man, you've got all 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.840 those former NFL players, sons that are playing these positions 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.400 at corner and the secondary and stuff. Sorting those guys out. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.839 It's going to be a group, and I think you're 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.800 going to be able to choose the type of guy 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.000 that you want that best fits your scheme. So I 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.360 do love what I see at the cornerback spot. I 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.920 don't like what I'm seeing at defensive end. And I 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.719 hadn't yet seen a defensive tackle that I really love 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.079 with to be honest with you, hey, Brian, real quick, 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.360 just in case you aren't aware, Carlos Basham is the 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.240 cousin of your buddy Terrell Basham, who you love so much. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.040 Here you go go, there you go. And he looks 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:35.040 the part. He physically when he plays that single digit 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:39.280 that nine was eighteen last year, but he looks the part. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.520 And but man, it's always sorting out these defensive ends. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.280 And maybe with the Cowboys, maybe with the emergence of 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.000 Randy Gregory, maybe you know, pair him with Lawrence. Maybe 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.560 that's something that's not so much oppressing you. We haven't 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.000 seen Bradley and I yet, maybe he comes in and 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.240 plays well, but I feel better about what I'm seeing 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.520 with these cornerbacks going forward here. If you're a Dallas 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.760 Cowboys fan and that's the direction you want to go, 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.600 that's you took the words right out of my mouth, Brian, 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.000 because that's that's what I was trying to say. I like, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.920 I get it you want to have a higher pick, 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.840 but I feel personally, let's say the Cowboys picked between 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.880 ten and nineteen, I feel so much better about drafting 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:25.200 Patrick Certan, Caleb Farley, j C. Horne, who you mentioned 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.960 is the son of Joe Horn. And then I would 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.000 maybe even I haven't watched him full disclosure, but just 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.600 knowing that Ohio State is DBU, I would throw Sean 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.719 Wade in there as well as maybe a guy who 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.559 you feel decent about in that range. Just knowing the 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.760 caliber of cornerback that they are that they typically put out, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.320 I feel way better about drafting any of those guys 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.680 in that range than if they had been at five 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.840 or six or something like that. And then I would 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.960 just throw in Brian, I know you luck, I know 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.760 you love Kyle Pitts. I went and I went back 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.480 and looked at this. I mean, he seems to be special. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.640 I'm not guaranteeing that he's gonna be there, But if 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.840 you are a Kyle Pitts fan, I don't think picking 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.839 at eleven or twelve rules that possibility out. Only four 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.600 tight ends have been taken in the top ten in 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.640 the last twenty years. UM T. J. Hockinson a few 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:21.400 years ago, UM, Eric Ebron, thank you, Bucky Vernon Davis, 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.319 and uh and it's a North Carolina guy. That's why 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.839 I remember that. There you go, There you go. And UM, 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.200 I believe the fourth one was Kellen Winslow all the 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.800 way back in like two thousand and four. So it 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.200 doesn't happen that often. So it's it's at least plausible 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.199 to think Kyle Pitts could be there for you at 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.320 like the eleventh, twelfth, or thirteenth pick. So I don't 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.200 think it changes the topic of conversation all that much. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.199 To be honest with you, if you want to hear 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.079 me scream like when Ceedee Lamb got picked, I will 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.160 give you an absolute another sound bite for your show 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.120 next year. If Kyle Pitts is the guy that's taken, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:00.480 they took him. Yeah, to your to your point, though, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.520 you know, I think there's maybe a couple it. Maybe 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.880 I think that that Farley will be gone. But you're 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.439 right certain those these Kendrick, I mean, those guys are 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.360 I think that's kind of in that group of that 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.680 where you're talking about eleven, twelve, thirteen. That's if you 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.960 hold that that spot, you can very well be picking 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.200 nineteen now and we're looking at a whole different group 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.880 of players there. I will say Kyle Pitts will play 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:31.200 his final collegiate football game at AT and T Stadium 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.200 in Arlington coming up tomorrow. So just so you know, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.160 Kyle Pitts is going to get an early tour of 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.600 the place because Florida is playing Oklahoma in the Cotton Ball. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.040 I don't know if he's opted out yet or not. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.440 I haven't actually looked at that. But also I was 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.720 gonna say, I think I think might out. That's annoying. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:52.360 Take that point away. Then all these guys are opting out, 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:57.240 which I don't. It's funny. So now here's the thing, Uh, Dave, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.680 your guy Boogie Bashan is minute to go to the 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.960 Senior Bowl, so we might get a chance to see 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:06.880 him in the postseason, and we talk about the cluster 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.520 that we could have with all the pass rushes, whatever, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.160 it might be a chance for him to kind of 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.240 separate himself from the others. Six five, two hundred and 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.560 seventy five pounds. And I agree with what Brian was 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.440 talking about in terms of looking the party. My goodness, 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.360 I mean, he's a frill. He's a total freak. Yeah. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.360 He he looks the part in that uniform, an old 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.600 krusty scout guy here when he sees somebody look and 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.680 when he's down into stance and you're like, oh, okay, 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.200 I see what's going on here. But yeah, that you know, 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.120 that's I'm looking for those guys as you continue to 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.880 fall down this draft board, and again, good for them, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.640 there's gonna be players. It's a it's a totally different look. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.240 You know, you got to evaluate all these guys. But 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.720 now you start to say, at nineteen, where's the possibilities, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.880 what direction, what corners, what linebackers? You know, this team 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.760 needs help, they need defensive help. But you know, again, 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.840 that's that's my focus right now, is to find which 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.360 one of these guys is the best fit for this 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.680 football team. Well, and that's another great point, because there's 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.640 gonna be a lot of people listening to this and 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.320 listening to our show throughout the offseason and rolling their 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.200 eyes at the possibility of drafting an offensive player in 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.360 the first round. But this was a question that I know, Bucky, 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.520 or excuse me, Brian, you actually brought this up in 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.480 our group message. But I want to know from an 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.160 old krusty scout like yourself, like you said that your words, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:28.880 not mine, just want to throw that out there, but 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.760 from someone from somebody who's been in a room like that. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.440 Is there such thing as a momentum draft? I mean, 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.520 last year we saw that the wide receivers were the 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.120 position to be had, and the Cowboys had the best 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.400 one fall to them, arguably the best one fall to them, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.120 and ceede Lamb at seventeen. You ultimately ended up with 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.080 a really nice draft that found defensive starters later on. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.560 But is that the same kind of mindset? Is there 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.880 such thing as momentum whenever it comes to a war 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.240 room and it comes to draft picks, even if they 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.400 might not be your number one need at the time. Oh, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.440 I absolutely believe in momentum and a draft. I feel 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.640 like that there's times where teams have reached for players 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.520 or they went out a sequence of how they really 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.919 saw a player and maybe their gut feeling on the board. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.159 As they put a player up there there was a 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.560 split vote in the room. Somebody had to make a decision. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.600 That's our guy. Half the scouts are hating it, half 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.080 the scouts are loving it. You know, you want a 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.640 consensus the best you can, and I do. I think 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.400 the Cowboys had great momentum in their draft last year. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.080 I mean, and they'll tell you about Diggs. They had 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.280 a first you know, they had grades on Digs where 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.000 if they got wiped out at seventeen, they could have 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.639 taken him there. So all of a sudden, you have 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.240 ceedee lamp. Okay, everybody's jacked about the pick. Now you 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.239 make the next pick. It's Digs. Wow, we just got 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.800 a player, you know that we had a really high 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.200 grade on. So I think that you could you could 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.359 get a little rhythm in a draft and it starts 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.280 coming to you and that the board appears a little 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.600 bit clearer to you. So I absolutely believe in that, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.840 and I think that sometimes you could take a player 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.480 and it throws off that rhythm of how you're picking 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.640 and you're reaching, and did we do the right thing? 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.320 Is there questions? I think the Cowboys were in a 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.800 great rhythm last year when they were drafting their board. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.639 You know, Brian to pick it back on that point. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.920 I believe that's why you have to vet everything out. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.000 And we talk about the BA board. We have the 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.760 horizontal board where guys are broken down by position, but 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.000 then also the vertical board, and whether you have one 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.760 hundred and twenty five or one hundred and fifty prospects 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.040 on that board, if you stay true to it and 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.560 the grades are like consistent, I think what you do 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.320 is you just pick it off as it comes. And 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.440 so if you talk about Digs having a first round 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.760 grade because maybe he was there eighteenth best prospect on 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.440 the board, that is what you should do. You shouldn't 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.159 go out of turn trying to pick a guy. And 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.520 that's where you have to be really really mindful of need, 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.199 because sometimes in reaching for that need, you end up 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.280 taking a bad player and two three years later we're 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.480 having to go back and fish in the same pond 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.760 because we really didn't get it that was worthy of 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.520 being selected at this spot. See I will say that 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.120 isn't that bucky. I think that's exactly why I don't 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.520 believe that momentum exists, with all due respect to Brian, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.199 because this all it resets every time you pick, Like 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.520 every time you pick, you've got to wait for the 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.480 other thirty one teams to pick, and then it all resets. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.480 Like case in point twenty sixteen, everybody's high five and 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.720 about Zeke Elliott, it like everybody's excited. I don't think 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.800 there would anybody that was like two upset about passing 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.959 on EmSee you get to the next round and you 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.800 get wiped out. They lost Kevin Dodd and Emmanuel Ogba, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:38.800 like back to back, right in front of them, and 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.520 they kind of had to scramble. And I think the 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.000 Jalen pick worked out better than a lot of people thought, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.880 but it still probably wasn't what they wanted to do. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.159 And then the next year you got a lot of 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:54.040 people that don't love Taco Charlton that picks not beloved 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.080 across the board. But then the next day comes and 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:59.760 you have two really solid defensive backs fall to you. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.320 I Jordan Lewis felt like a steel at the time. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.120 Again not talking about the way their careers panned out, 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.160 but the way the pick was received at the time 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.959 and the thought process, you came out of Friday of 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.560 that draft feeling really good about restocking your secondary, even 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.080 though a lot of people weren't in love with the 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.800 first round pick. So I just think, I think all 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.280 of these picks are unique unto themselves because of all 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.320 the circumstances. Well, you just mentioned you just mentioned the 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.480 players that are probably not going to be here, but 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.080