1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: There is only one feller with Cleveland. You mean nine 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Yankees are gonna play against one pillar. That's right, you 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: mean the Powers peel though Cleveland only has one feller. Well, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Ron and Aiens, let's be pretty card if they don't eat, 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: don't need any other players. But I'm felt thanks fired 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: right up? Forty two pounds help residual pressure. Look at 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: it's fixed. Hey, I fix something. I went home feeling 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: good that I decided. You know what, you really gotta 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: be out of your mind to fix cars, dude, nobody 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I always like to measure heat with 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: a thermometer. I don't like to hold my hand up 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: to it and go that's hot. That's cool, all right, 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm a numbers guy. Now they have you got a 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: bunch the ball? When he puts the ball. Me being 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: a quick catcher, I'm gonna throw the guy out of 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: first baseball. I picked up the ball and throw at 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: the How that's the first thing you've said, right, I 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: don't even know what I Welcome to the radio home 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. Since this is 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in the 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: your call at eight five five five six. And now 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm asking you who's the guy on FUSHA alright? He running? 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no more, who's the guy 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: on first base? Hello, and welcome Ronan the Car Doctor. 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: As we kick up this hour this next two hours 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor Radio show. Thanks for being here. 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: It is time to start your engine and get out 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: under the hood and see what's going on as we 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: move forward, eight five five zero zero the phone number. 33 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Happy to be back here in the live and ready 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: to go, all fired up and ready to talk to 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: you about your cars and their problems. Real quick opening comment. 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to do this last week. Unfortunately I wasn't 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: able to be here. The thing about self driving cars 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: and the the conversation, uh you know. Unfortunately it has 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: resulted in, um, I think two deaths in the last 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: two weeks, one out in Arizona, and then I heard 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: something yesterday. I'm not sure where it was or what 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: I had heard, but um, I thought there was another 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: fatality or another problem with a self driving car somewhere 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: else in the country. And one thing to keep in 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: mind that we have to respect the air force, the 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, the military grounds their airplanes under certain operating conditions. 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: You know, the coast Guard won't go out in the 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: middle of a hurricane. Sometimes, you know, not everything can 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: drive or fly in all kinds of weather. It's impossible. 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: I think self driving cars are going to have their limits, 51 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: and that's what nobody is expecting. Everybody thinks, hey, we're 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna plug a computer in it. It's gonna work, it's 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna do everything we wanted to do, until it doesn't. 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: And unfortunately it took a fatality for them to start 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: looking at it. I think from that perspective, I envisioned 56 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: a day where, yes, self driving cars on a sixty 57 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: eight degree day, clear and sunny and you know, able 58 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: to get people around. Right if we think along the 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: lines that we're gonna take that self driving car and 60 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: use it for an elderly person, put mom in the 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: car and say take mom to the eye doctor, and 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: she gets to the eye doctor where they're ade the 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: aid doesn't drive great. Are we gonna put mom in 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: that car when you know she's eighty years old to 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: go to the eye doctor when it's snowing out or 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: when it's dark out or raining or hail stones. I 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: don't think so. Self driving cars are gonna have their limits. 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: That's what we're experimenting with. I think they better wake 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: up real quick because I see a lot of damage 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: being done to the infrastructure over self driving cars. Were 71 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: betting too much on it. It's not gonna happen. It's 72 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: just not gonna happen to that level no matter how 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: hard they try, because technology is gonna get in the 74 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: way of itself. So we'll leave it there. Um. I 75 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to get that opening rent out of the way. 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: I feel better now, Mr Tony, nice to see you 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: once against her smiling through the glass. You good sir, 78 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: um Mr Ray Um as always Hello. Yeah, you better 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: talk to Tony. What are you doing now, my chocolate bunny? Well, listen, 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: he's like that, he's a bunny buier. I noticed that 81 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: he's a bunny buyer. This is a family show, so 82 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: we're not going to go to a gentleman as a 83 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: funny buier. So gentlemen, listen, I think we've been insulted around. 84 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Listen at least at least he got a chalk the bunny. 85 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: I didn't get a bunny. I don't rate anyway, let's 86 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: kick the garage doors open. Let's go over and talk 87 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: to Mark in Las Vegas. Mark, welcome to the car doctor, sir. 88 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: How can I help Hi? Ron? Yes, thanks for taking 89 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: my call. I really appreciate it, really love your show. Um, 90 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: my daughter is having a problem with her her blower 91 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: motor on her twenty tim Camra. She's having sort of 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: an intermittent problem. Sometimes it will come on, sometimes it won't. 93 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes it will be on and it will kick down 94 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: at a lower speed. So something is going on in there, 95 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: and I'm having a hard time figure out how to 96 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: diagnose this since it's an intermittent problem, which they're the 97 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: toughest kinds to diagnose. Um. So you know, last week 98 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: I brought it to my house and tried to take 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: a look at it, and I thought, well, what would 100 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: Ron do? And I started thinking, well, maybe I'll wire 101 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: in some sort of a site mark or ball to 102 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: see if when it doesn't come on, that is it 103 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: getting juice or not. And then I went down there 104 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: and I disconnected it and there's a you know, there's 105 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: three wires there ones, one's like a battery. I guess 106 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: it's hot all the time. When it was there's a red, 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: there's a white, black, and there's a there's a white 108 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: or a gray if I remember right, that's right? Yeah, 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: so so much from my side, Marker Bulb trying to 110 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: wire it in. I just kind of dropped my hands 111 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: and said, I don't know. I got a call ron 112 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: and figured this one out. So is there any way 113 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: two rather than just buying a new motor and putting 114 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: it in. I don't know if that is. If that's 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: if it's a good chance that's what the problem is. 116 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: And you know, Mark, the problem here is that onboard 117 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: computers have taken over the car, so that everything you're 118 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: talking about, short of the blower motor itself, everything after 119 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: the blower motor is now electronic. You you really can't 120 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: look at this car without a proper level scan tool 121 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: to go in and look for fault codes there. There 122 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: could be an issue with, for example, that blower motor 123 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: feeds back to something called an ac amplifier, and that 124 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: a c amplifier is governed and controlled by input from 125 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: by no less than a half a dozen different switches, 126 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: temperature sensors, solar sensors, ambient air in cabin temp and 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: they're all going to effect and modify how that blower 128 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: motor responds and works and at what speed. So anything 129 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: from an incorrect sensor reading to a problem with one 130 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 1: of the either the amplifier or one of the body 131 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: modules or end um a ground connection can create this. So, 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, part of the part of the game here 133 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: has to be we've got to the side is this 134 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: an electronic problem or is this just a plain old 135 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: blower motor acting up, acting out on its own. You know, 136 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: UM don't see a lot of blower motor failures. We 137 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: see more issues with the electronics. And the very first 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: thing I would tell you to have done is somebody's 139 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: got a scan for any and all fault codes in 140 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: the vehicle. I'll tell you this story real quick. Had 141 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: a Chevy Silverado, all right. I don't think I told 142 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: this story on there since it happened and it was 143 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: a no crank condition. Car came in, no crank, Uh 144 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: turned the key, nothing happens like just like a bad starter. 145 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: And it turned out, long story short, that on the 146 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: four computer modules that feed that side of the data bus. 147 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: The PCM and the trans control module both worked off 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: of ground one oh three, and it had gotten disconnected, 149 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: prevented the car from starting, pulled the but in the meantime, 150 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: it pulled the serial. It pulled the computer network down 151 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: that I couldn't even talk to the computers. The scan 152 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: tool didn't even acknowledge that they were there. Trust me, 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: You're you're driving a giant computer, all right with with 154 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: four tires and a body sitting on top of it. 155 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: And you know, until you know that everything is cooperating 156 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: and getting along with one another, don't start swapping parts. Yeah, 157 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: you can go and look and see. You know, you 158 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: can wire a side marker and figure out which is 159 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: the control leg, which I believe is going to be 160 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the hot uh, to that to that blower motor, because 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna pulse with the signal for the blower motor itself. 162 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: But I don't even do that on everything anymore because 163 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: depending upon how the A c amplifier is controlling that, 164 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: I could hurt the circuit. So I've got to really 165 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: understand how the circuits work before I just start modifying 166 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: or changing something. Yeah, it sounds like it's going to 167 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: be a little out of my hands. I'm probably gonna 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: have to because I I've got a scan tool, but 169 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't scan any of the body stuff. Right, 170 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: You've got an O B D two level scan tool, right, yeah, Um, 171 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: so that's the deal, that's the problem. So you've got 172 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, you've got I would obviously go through connections. 173 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: I would go through and make sure, you know, just 174 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: look at basics, battery, terminal connections. We're really gonna have 175 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: to start to judge things based on grounds connections terminals. 176 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: Continuity had a had a two thousand Chevy Silverado yesterday 177 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: had a P zero one two centser no activity fault, 178 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: took up the connector apart. There was water intrusion and 179 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: evidence of corrosion. The censor was legitimately bad, but you 180 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: can be darn sure. I cleaned up that connector and 181 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: got all the green junk out of it where it 182 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: was plugging into the factory side of the harness with 183 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: the new ohto uh, you know, we've really got to 184 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: look at everything and not just assume components are are 185 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: are solely failing on their own. Because the components on 186 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the cars are just getting better and 187 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: better as time goes by. Alright, but no, no, nothing common. 188 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I guess I'm gonna have to disappoint my 189 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: daughter because she was really thinking I was going to 190 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: be able to fix it, and we got summer coming. 191 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's eighty five degrees here today, so the 192 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: air is gonna be neated. Yeah, so maybe it'll come 193 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: on today. Maybe not. I don't know how many miles away, 194 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: how many how many miles on the car mark? Uh, 195 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's a I think there's over 196 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: a hundred right right, Yeah, I'd be somewhere. I'd be 197 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: surprised if it's a blower. About the only thing you 198 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: could do is if you have an ant meter. Do 199 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: you have a clamp on ant meter? I don't have 200 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: a clamp on No, if you have a clamp on 201 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: ant meter, maybe it's maybe you can go buy yourself 202 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: want and buy you know, more toys for more boys. 203 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: Um and just watch watch current draw and see what 204 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: it draws. If you notice it's starting to exceed what 205 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: it's rated for on the circuit, take a look at 206 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: the fuse. Typically if it's a if it's a twenty 207 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: am fuse. I would expect that blower motor to draw 208 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: about a third of that seven or eight amps. That's 209 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: usually the rule of thumb the engineers go by. And 210 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: you know, if all of a sudden, you see that 211 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: blower motors starting to pull twelve fourteen, fifteen ams, and 212 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: maybe we've got a conversation about a blower motor. But 213 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: if that blower motors misbehaving and pulling six seven eight amps, 214 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: it's not a blower motor, okay. And is that's something 215 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: I could do with it running propect? Yeah, doesn't. It 216 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: doesn't cut out that often. It seems like it works 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: fine more often than not. Well, remember the remember the rule. 218 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: We want to we want known good, so catch it. 219 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: Well it's good, so when it starts to fail, you'll 220 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: know what you're looking for. If all of a sudden, 221 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to leave that ant meter 222 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: on there for two weeks, but at least you know 223 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: what known good is the next time it happens. Hey Dad, 224 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: this is happening. Yet you catch it. You know, at 225 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: least you know what you're working against. It's it's no, 226 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: it's no different than what I go through in the 227 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: shop day in and day out and half and a 228 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: half a million guys around the country go through. This 229 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: is what we're up against. Okay, Ron, thank you so much. 230 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I really appreciate You're welcome, kiddo. You have a good 231 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: rest of the day. Eight five zero nine zero running 232 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor coming back right after this 233 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: broke back? Aren't any of the car Doctor here at 234 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: eight zero nine zero zero? Let's get over and talk 235 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: to Roger Deaton, Ohio. Roger, Welcome to the Car Doctor. 236 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? I think so. I've got 237 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: a two thousand six Jeep Liberty with the three point 238 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: seven in it right, and I just playing around with 239 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: a launch check scanner the other day, and it has 240 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: an odometer reading on it from the PCM with states 241 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: that has two hundred seventeen thousand miles on it. But 242 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: the actually odometer that I can read has two hundred 243 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: six thousand miles on it. So which one? I'm pretty 244 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: sure that PCM one is true? Where does it get 245 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: the different readings from? Do you know what? What? What 246 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: is the PCM reading two hundred seventeen thousand? So it's 247 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: off and I've owned it since it was news though 248 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: I know it's never been changed. It's off by eleven 249 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: thousand miles. That's interesting. Yeah, Now I've noticed going down 250 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: the interstate that my o'doma does not match the mile markers. 251 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: It's off by you know, maybe a chance every once 252 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: in a while. Right. So if if and the game was, 253 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: if you did sixty miles an hour, it will take 254 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: you a minute ago mile marker to mile marker, right, 255 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: But you would think that the calculation, would you know, 256 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: indicate the PCM is seeing whatever the PCM is seeing 257 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: in terms of how the milege accumulates, how it records it, 258 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: you would think it should be recorded also on the 259 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: instrument cluster. You would think, you would think so. Um, 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: And I've also been checking it. Once a week, I'll 261 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: pook it up and check the the PC m odomater 262 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: reading and then the other our domain, and they're off completely, 263 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: the PCM odominter reading and the one that I can see. 264 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: And you know, once a week i'll record the information 265 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: on both of them and then I'll check them, and 266 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: they're they're both off. I mean, they're their differences. The 267 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: only thing I could think of is I wonder if 268 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: at any time during a flash program that I wonder 269 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: if it's the only thing I can think of is 270 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: that perhaps if the vehicle was ever programmed, they've ever 271 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: had a software update, and you were lately, well not lately, 272 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: but at any time in its life, and it's you know, 273 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: twelve years old, if the wrong mind village was entered, 274 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: perhaps it's recording off of that, and therefore it's not 275 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: it's not the mileage at the PCM that's calculating it. 276 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: I wonder if the mileage is being calculated and fed 277 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: through the instrument cluster module and PCM is just recording 278 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: on its own. In other words, is it two different locations, 279 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: two separate pieces of information recording the same thing. Yeah, 280 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: but they're they're both. I mean, just the odometer reading 281 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: records are just a little bit less than the PCM, right. 282 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, in other words, the PCM 283 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: has its own odometer reading built in, and the instrument 284 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: cluster has its own odometer reading built in. The the 285 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: instrument cluster is calculating its own mileage reading, but the 286 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: But so in other words, you know, everything was equal 287 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: between the two at the two thousand mile mark, and 288 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: you went into the dealer for you know, a software update, 289 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: and instead of reporting that it had two thousand miles 290 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: on at the dealer reported that it had three thousand 291 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: miles on it. And it didn't change the odometer, but 292 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: it changed the PCMM. Now I would have to think 293 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: it's something along those lines, because I would dare guess 294 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: that if one day you were driving in the car 295 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: and it had two thousand miles on it, the next 296 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: day it had dred you probably notice that. Yeah, yeah, 297 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: because I keep track of the miles right, pretty pretty good. 298 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: Have I replaced the both the front wheel hubs and 299 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: probably thousand, maybe maybe more than that, maybe a hundred 300 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: thousand miles ago because it was making one of them 301 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: was making a noise, I replaced both of them. Would 302 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: that have anything to do with now? If I don't, 303 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't see how it would, um, you know, unless 304 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: unless well then we have to assume. So now, if 305 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: if it's calculating, now we're we're we're way too deep 306 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: into this, all right, we're overthinking it. If if if, 307 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: if the wheel hubs were throwing off the reading on 308 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: the odometer on the instrument cluster, it should throw off 309 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: the readings on the PCM. Unless we want to sit 310 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: there and think does the PCM have a different multiplier 311 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: as far as how it calculates my milege versus the 312 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: instrument cluster And in the end it doesn't really matter. 313 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Cars still got twenty thousand miles on it. Yeah, yeah, 314 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: you know it's it's I get it. It's a curiosity. 315 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: I think about those things too when it comes to 316 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: cars sometimes. But um, I have to believe that somewhere 317 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: along the way somebody changed something. There was there was 318 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: manual entry error. And the reason I can say that 319 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: is I've been in situations with Chrysler's where I have 320 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: reprogrammed or I've had to rewrite the VN to the 321 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: PCM on certain vehicles. And this is with the d 322 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: RB three. This was old school technology, which that that 323 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: oh six might be part of that. I have to 324 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: think about that. But you know I could I there 325 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: were times I could enter incorrect odometer and it would 326 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: show up on the PCM but not on the instrument cluster. 327 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: And that's what I think is happening here. Okay, that's 328 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: good to know. A quick question on a blower motor, 329 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: real quick. It doesn't run, but if I jump to 330 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: it, it it still doesn't run well. Okay, so depending on 331 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: how you jump to it doesn't have ground. Yeah I 332 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: put yeah, if you put negative, if you put if 333 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: you if you're on power and ground and you put 334 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: power and ground to that blower motor, it's it's gotta 335 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: it's gotta run. So disconnect the connector. Take a pair 336 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: of jumper leads. All right, tap into your power and 337 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: ground the connector the factory connector. Run those power and 338 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: ground leads to a large headlamp. Go out and get 339 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: an old headlight bulb or a big square one or 340 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: something like that. You should be able to make that 341 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: headlight light up using the blower control high speed, the 342 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: low speed. You should be able to make that bulb 343 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: go bright to dim and backwards. If you can do 344 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: all that, you've got a bad blower motor. And um 345 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: that'll do it. Roger, I appreciate the call. If five 346 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: zero the car doctor is coming back, don't go away. 347 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: I've got the number riding on the wall, so you 348 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: don't forget to call for car advice. Done right? Eight 349 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: five five five zero zero zero. Now back to raw. 350 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back, ran a name the car doctor. Let's get busy. 351 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the phones are just relentless. Today, let's 352 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: go and talk the Bob Bordertown, New York. Bob, you're 353 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: on with the car doctor. How can I help? Hello? Okay, okay. 354 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: I was wondering why I cannot get a car without 355 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: powers steering, and also wondering why a number of other 356 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: good features back in the nineteen fifties can are no 357 00:18:54,280 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: longer available, such as well a push button radio, car, 358 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: length of girders that went from the front to the 359 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: back springs that were very long, so that the car 360 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: had a very soft ride. Um just uh well, even 361 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: a car called the Hudson I think had beds in it. 362 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many things that they had that 363 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: they no longer have. Oh sure, well listen, do you 364 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: remember the Gemini and the Mercury space capsule program? Well? Sure, 365 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: back in the sixties, I remember that. That's how we went, 366 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: That's how we started getting ready to go to the moon. 367 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: But technology changed and we had to move forward. We 368 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: had to go from Gemini to Mercury to Apollo and 369 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: then into the Space Shuttle and now we're into who 370 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: knows what we're into. But here let me let me 371 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: answer the question about paris steering. Like this, Tony, Tony, 372 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: pick up your mic Tony, would you drive a car 373 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: without power steering? Okay, Tom, would you drive a car 374 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: without power steering? Well, you know the car my daughter 375 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: has the power of steering failed on that once. It 376 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: was a recall on it. And let me tell you, 377 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: I almost didn't around the corner. When that fails, it's 378 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: a yes or no question. So let me say it 379 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: like this, Bob and and Alman. No, I don't want 380 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: to drive a car without power steering unless it's a 381 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: hot rod or something I'm looking to feel the road on. 382 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: So just in our short little survey here, three out 383 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: of one, so that means one out of four wants 384 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want power steering, and they're the three do. And 385 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: the reason is the reason they're I'm trying to make 386 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: the point is that the car companies look at what 387 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: the public wants. Everybody wants power steering, Everybody wants all 388 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: the bells and whistles. Nobody wants push button radios anymore. 389 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're wrong for wanting it. I'm just 390 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: saying they're they're, you know, market dictates demand. They're they're 391 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: building those because that's what people want, and that's how 392 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: they're that's how they're putting them together. The trouble is 393 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: that nobody asks us what we want. There's no survey 394 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: taken by the car companies. Well, you know, somewhere along 395 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: the way they are and the proofs in the pudd 396 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: and we sold what we sell last year seventeen million 397 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: cars in this country or some ridiculous number like that, 398 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: So they must be making something right. Um. But that's 399 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: not to say you can't get a Hudson or something 400 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: from the fifties. And listen, I like a fifty five Chevy. 401 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: I like to wrap around windshield. I like the mechanical 402 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: nous of the car. I like the seventy two Monty Carlo. 403 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: It's a very straightforward, very different kind of riding vehicle. 404 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: And after I get done fixing computers with engines and 405 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: tires during the course of the week, there's nothing like 406 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: sitting in a mechanical car. Um. Uh. That just gives 407 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: you an appreciation for where we've come from. But I 408 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: feel your pain, but there's nothing you're gonna do about it. 409 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: It's what it's what the masses wanted. Can I ask 410 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: one more question? Infty Ford could make their car, at 411 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: no extra expense, could make their car get seven zero 412 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: seventy miles to the gallon on the highway. What happened 413 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: to that? It's the first I'm hearing of it. Ford 414 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: Ford can get a car. Ford had a car that 415 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: went seventy miles to the gallon? Yes, what model car 416 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: was that? What was the regular car that weighed three thousand, 417 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: one and eight pounds? Do you have any documentation for that? No? Well, 418 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: then how do you know? How do you know what existed? 419 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: A congresswoman about fifteen years ago, a congresswoman US congresswoman 420 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: came back from um Sweden. They said, the Volvo that 421 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: sold only in Sweden, not the once they export, but 422 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: the one sold in Sweden also gets seventy miles to 423 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: the gallon. And they are in combination with Ford. You know, Bob, 424 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if there was a way to 425 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: bring a car to the public masses that could get 426 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: seventy miles to the gallon, even today, they would do it. 427 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because you look 428 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: at the shift. You look at the shift in politics. 429 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: You know how the Middle East and the way we're 430 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: treating the Middle East and the way we have to 431 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: rely on the Middle East has changed in the last 432 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: five to seven years, just because cars today get better 433 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: fuel economy. We're not so fuel dependent on off shore 434 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: oil anymore. At least that's my view. And I'm no 435 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: Washington Think Tanks scholar, but just as a casual observation, uh, 436 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'd love to see something in print, something 437 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: documented that Ford had a car they got seventy miles 438 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: to the gallon. First, I'm hearing about it. Most of 439 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: the cars back in the fifties it was you know, 440 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I won't say seven, but it was maybe fifteen to 441 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: eighteen miles to the gallon, maybe twenty on certain ones. 442 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: But those cars weighed a lot, they polluted a lot, 443 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: Their maintenance was way way up um in terms of 444 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: cost factor. Um, you know, And I'm not going to 445 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: debate it. It was just a very different time, you 446 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: know what. I look at cars of the forties and 447 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: the fifties and the sixties. Hey, everybody was working, everybody 448 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: got paid the the the cost of living was down 449 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: on and the wage everybody made was more equitable to 450 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: what they did they could. You know, it's a different life. 451 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: It was a different style. Again, my my theory about 452 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: cars or a lifestyle comes to light. But the point 453 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: being you can't look at what it was and say 454 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: why not. You gotta look at what it is and 455 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: say how can I make it better? And that's just 456 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: just my perspective. But if you come across that documentation, 457 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. Let's go and talk to 458 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: Dave and I with two thousand Monty Carlo. Yeah, Dave, 459 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: what's going on? Oh? Hello, are you going? What's going on? Uh? 460 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm seventy three. I don't get it many 461 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: miles I'm walking anymore either, So but anyway, I want 462 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: to let you know where that Monte Carlo I was 463 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: telling you about that I had that we was having 464 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: problems with. We couldn't fear it. I took it into 465 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: the shop and the guy said, well, we'll check it 466 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: out and see what happens. And anyway, it's been three 467 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: weeks to take a spark plug out, put the scope 468 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: in it and turn it over and find out that 469 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: there was a piston. The number one was not on 470 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: the row at the end of the row. There's what 471 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: he said. So that really you should, I mean, really 472 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: what the piston came off the connecting rod. That's where 473 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: he said, he said, you didn't see the piston in there, so, 474 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: uh gee, I'd love to see that. Is this a 475 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: phull moon show? I'd love to see that. Um, I know, 476 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't believe that either. If 477 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: a piston physically came off the connecting rod, it had 478 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: to make a big boom. Uh, it had to make 479 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: a big boom, brother, So I'd love to see that. Um. 480 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: I would go back and ask him where the piston 481 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: go if it's not there, and how did they get 482 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: disconnected if it is? And at that point it sounds 483 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: like you're headed foreign engine, so um you know, and 484 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: then a two thousand Monte Carlo. Well we both know, 485 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, what's the value of that? Um? I would 486 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: ask him about that again, Dave. I would ask him 487 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: that and call me back next week, just be sure. 488 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: Is it really the piston disconnected from the connecting rod. 489 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: If it did, that wristpin is so thick. Uh, that 490 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: motor would make a heck of a noise turning over. 491 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: I've never seen one just disconnect itself. I think that's 492 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: a mechanical impossibility. I UM I called bs to that 493 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. The car doctors coming back right 494 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: after this blocome back on the end of the car 495 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: doctor five zero nine nine zero zero. You know, I 496 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: gotta tell you some of the calls we're getting today. 497 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: I think it's more they're looking for Dr Joyce Brothers 498 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: or Dr joy Brown or something. It's I just wish 499 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: you didn't say full moon. You don't want to know 500 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: what Tony did during the break Well, you know, well 501 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: blue moon, Um, but you know it's not cold enough 502 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: for that. I'm telling you, Um, they don't make cars 503 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: without power steering because everybody wants cars with every bell 504 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: whistling option on it. I get it. I just we're 505 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: looking for different kinds of cars. Anyway, let's let's roll forward. 506 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of phones calls to get through yet. Paul, Minnesota, 507 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: how are you today, sir? Already haven't talked to you 508 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: a bit there. I'm the Ford Senior Master up here 509 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: in the White North. Yep, yep, yep. What's cooking? Yeah? Anyhow, 510 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: quick one, because I caught your opening thing. I have 511 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: a problem with the self drivers because when Ford came 512 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: out with this self parking mode and the rear park 513 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: aid and all that the sensor failures were off the chart. Yeah, 514 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: you lose one sensor. Guess what you know? And so 515 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: there's a problem. Oh and you the gentleman that wanted 516 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: that is back to the old school. I've got a 517 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: fifty two mirk that'll fit him just perfect, you know. Anyway, 518 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, pull what I what I don't get is okay, 519 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: And maybe this is the hard part for me, you know. 520 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: And we had we had this conversation in the shop 521 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: this week. A customer came in with his young son 522 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: and we were talking about you know, they say, by 523 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: nobody will need a driver's license anymore. Now think about 524 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: that for a minute. No more driver's license applications. Of course, 525 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: by then the line of New Jersey motor vehicle will 526 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: probably have cut down some but um, you know, even so, 527 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: because self driving cars will be so proficient. And I 528 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: asked the young kid, he was probably all of nine 529 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: or ten, and I said, aren't you looking forward to driving? 530 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: And he said, no, why do I want to drive anything? 531 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: He goes, I'd rather just have somebody drive me. And that, 532 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, man, I'll tell you what. I was thirteen, 533 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: working at a stable, you know, driving a horse maneuver truck. 534 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: It was the greatest experience of my life. That's how 535 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: I learned how to drive a big old sixty five 536 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: Chevy C thirty dump truck. And I just I just 537 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: don't get it that. Why don't people want to drive? 538 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: And you go back to self driving or self parking cars, 539 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: so now you depend on the car to park and 540 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: then one day one of those sensors falls in the 541 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: bumper or fails and you find out it's a couple 542 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: of three to get it fixed because it's out of warranty. 543 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: So you don't get it fixed. Now you don't know 544 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: how to parallel park the car anymore. You've lost that ability. 545 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: You've taken something away. And yeah, I don't say it again. 546 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm to uh date myself to my first car. I 547 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: paid ten dollars for a fifty one Plymouth Yeah, and 548 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: I drove it for two years, you know, right, and 549 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: you probably sold it for ten bucks when you were 550 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: done with it. Um, well here you go. Uh you know. 551 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: But there's there's there's an intrinsic I'm looking for the 552 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: right words. There's there's an intrinsic value and being self 553 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: sufficient behind the wheel at a young age. It teaches 554 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: you self reliance, you know. It's it's sort of like 555 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: that kid that's sixteen or fourteen that can find their 556 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: way through the New York City subway system and make 557 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: it from Brooklyn to Harlem and back again, all in 558 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: one piece because they know they know the rules and 559 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: the rigs of the subway. It gives you a sense 560 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: of self reliance. It gives you a sense of confidence 561 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: in yourself. And I think a lot of the kids 562 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: today are gonna miss that. And I get it that 563 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: they can't work on the cars like we did when 564 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: we were kids because of how mechanical things were versus now. 565 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: But to not want to drive, I'll tell you how 566 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: bad it is. The Cooper Tire salesman came in this 567 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: week and I was really surprised at this, and they 568 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: were showing me the new Cooper Tire catalog and so forth, 569 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: and we were going over and over it, and he said, 570 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: and up here as we've got the tread lightly of 571 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: the Tread Safely campaign. And I said, what's that? He said, 572 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: Cooper Tire is going out to the schools and speaking 573 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: in front of the fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen year old 574 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: explaining tire technology and safety, trying to get them interested 575 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: in tires, to try and get them interested into getting 576 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: their driver's licenses, because nobody these kids today don't want 577 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: to drive. They want to be driven. And I'm not 578 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 1: picking on the generation. I'm just saying they're missing out 579 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: on the greatest experience of their life and something that's 580 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna help form I think the basis of who they become. Um, 581 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: cars are a lifestyle. I I really believe that. And 582 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,239 Speaker 1: if you're self reliant, if you can, you know, if 583 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: you can figure things out behind the wheel and you know, 584 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: keep yourself safe on the road, I think you're a 585 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: self reliant I think you're you're you're you're in a 586 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: better position than the person that can't. And I'll leave 587 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: it there. I'll leave it there. Oh I got a 588 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: quick one on Is that your previous color about fuel? Well, 589 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Paul, Paul, let me pull over 590 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: and take this pause and come I'll come right back 591 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: to you. Let's uh, let's let's come back to Paul. 592 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: Go ahead, let's get back to Paul ron in the 593 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: car doctor here, Paul, go ahead, finish up real quick, Yeah, 594 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: make it quick for you. Oh, and also on the 595 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: mileage thing, I've been a FOURD guy for forty two 596 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: years anyhow, had a fifty seven fair Lan which unfortunately 597 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: had to get rid of two automatic. The best I 598 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: could get out of it was eighteen miles to the gallon. Yeah, 599 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 1: that's what I kind of think. I just think that 600 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: they don't know where he came up with that number 601 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: of seventy miles to the gallon. Paul is always a pleasure, sir. 602 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: We'll get together again real soon and I'll have a 603 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: longer conversation. Let to get over and talk to Brian 604 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: from Minnesota and some comments um about k C Brian, 605 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: want to Nat the car doctor? How canna help? Hello? Ron, 606 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: thanks speaking with me. Say, last last summer I heard you, 607 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: um listen to you for a long time, and I 608 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: heard you talking about k CELL. It was the show 609 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: where you said, I think you're talking about the product. 610 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: You said, I think they're going to be a sponsor 611 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: of the show at some point. And you believe you 612 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: believe in the product that much. And I've got a 613 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: Cadillac sts Siville and my head I got the head 614 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: gasket issues with that. Yea, very much so. And I 615 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: and Ron I had over the years earlier on I had, 616 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: and I knew ultimately the problem, what the problem was. 617 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: I figured that out, um and at some point I 618 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: was gonna have to just dig into it and get 619 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: it six but over just I'm kind of trying to 620 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: put off reality. I tried different poor in products, uh 621 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: some of them, you know, sixty seventy bucks and nothing. 622 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: And I listened to you last last summer and I thought, 623 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: what the heck, I'll go get it. And after five 624 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: minutes running thing on, it was just fine. And the last, 625 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: the last, the last time I licensed this vehicle was 626 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: nineteen or excuse me, it was two thousand nine. I've 627 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: been sitting on it for that long. I love I 628 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: love the car, I love the ride, everything. So I thought, 629 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold onto it and you all, at some 630 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: point get it fixed. And I'm not kidding you. It 631 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: within five minutes, generally I could tell, or Soul I 632 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: could tell if something was working or not, because she'd 633 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: start it's hempled go over twelve o'clock, which is where 634 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: she always sits, and I'd always get some burping back 635 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: up into the reservoir and I get nothing. Now I'll 636 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: tell you what k seal does work. We've had we've 637 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: had excellent luck with it, Paul. As a matter of fact, 638 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: that just got off the line. The Ford Master Tech 639 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: from up Minnesota, WA also was telling us about it 640 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: one time when he had called up and Um, you know, 641 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: it's new technology, and it's it's it's not that new, 642 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: but it's newer style technology. It does work, it does 643 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: do what it says it's going to do. I'm glad 644 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: it worked for you, Brian. Um, I really am. And 645 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate the phone call and uh um, you know, 646 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you being part of the Car Doctor family. 647 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: And you know, take my word for it. If I'm 648 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: talking about it, it's because I I've used it, I 649 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: trust it, I like it. And that's what we try 650 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: to do with all the products here on the Car Doctor, 651 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to keep it real and that's the 652 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: bottom line. Hey, I'm running any in the Car Doctor 653 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: reminding you mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you 654 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: seven