Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello, hello, hello, hello everybody, and welcome to our
Speaker 2: Part two episode of Call It.
Speaker 1: A Rewatch So nice. We had to do it twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. We just did it. We didn't know,
Speaker 2: we didn't know how long we were going to take,
Speaker 2: and we were in.
Speaker 1: Yeah we were, yeah, we were really, we're taking this seriously.
Speaker 2: We mean business.
Speaker 1: We're not trifling with you.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're not. We're not missing around. No. No.
Speaker 2: For those that are catching up, please go back and
Speaker 2: listen to our episode that just aired on Sunday, February second.
Speaker 2: It is our very first rewatch that we rewatch on
Speaker 2: the pot. And we asked, we asked everybody, the crew
Speaker 2: what they wanted us to review. What did you want?
Speaker 2: What's your vibes? And you guys sit for you. I'll
Speaker 2: take some weed. It takes a week.
Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, I want to get high.
Speaker 2: So we we want to get high with us. And
Speaker 2: so we started that and and this is part two.
Speaker 2: So if you need to go back listen, do that first.
Speaker 1: Oh I think it's necessary if you haven't, I actually
Speaker 1: think I'm debating I'm insisting that you go back and listen,
Speaker 1: because if you don't, then I mean, just how will
Speaker 1: this all make sense?
Speaker 2: It's not gonna makes sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we left off with, uh, Maggie, Yeah, Maggie
Speaker 1: and DeLuca and I in the room and we don't
Speaker 1: have a name for we.
Speaker 2: What we talked about was that you guys were in
Speaker 2: certain weed jails, right, so you're in you're you're sort
Speaker 2: of been sequestered to certain areas of the hospital, and
Speaker 2: you and Maggie and de Luca, way, de Luca are
Speaker 2: in silent DeLuca silent la. He's I know, but it's
Speaker 2: so sad and it works or in that room. I
Speaker 2: don't even know what that do we ever figure out
Speaker 2: what that real? That's what I just said. I don't
Speaker 2: know the name I thought. Okay, yeah, we called it.
Speaker 1: So Maggie's standing there with the kind of touch screen
Speaker 1: body and she's panicking because she's high and she thinks
Speaker 1: she's lost the patient's liver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were talking, you were talking about CALLI
Speaker 2: and you're a little bit sad about.
Speaker 1: Well, I mistakenly said the name Cally and stuff. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: and uh, and then that's when we were talking about
Speaker 1: how it was sort of new for me in my
Speaker 1: character because I'd never experienced Arizona as being super insecure.
Speaker 1: But she goes on to say that everyone eventually leaves her, which.
Speaker 2: Is so sad. That is sad? Is it true? Even
Speaker 2: though that I think it's true, Yeah, in that moment,
Speaker 2: she felt.
Speaker 1: Like it was true. Well, listen, this would be probably
Speaker 1: for another day, but you know, it was always very heroic.
Speaker 1: This was another episode that was asked to be a rewatch.
Speaker 1: Is when Arizona and Kelly go to court and Arizona
Speaker 1: actually wins. Well, I mean who wins in this sort
Speaker 1: of yeah, but the judge technically wins rules in her
Speaker 1: favor and she technically gets custody of Sophia, and she
Speaker 1: makes the last minute choice to let Sophia go with Calli,
Speaker 1: And I always thought, gosh, that's she let her go.
Speaker 1: How do you oh? That was always such a hard
Speaker 1: thing for me. Most of the time, I can get
Speaker 1: on board with storylines, but that one was a little
Speaker 1: bit like how she let her daughter go. So anyways,
Speaker 1: this is going back to her saying that everyone eventually
Speaker 1: leaves her. So I was wondering about the processing of
Speaker 1: you know, Calli and Penny leaving with Sophia, and my
Speaker 1: guess is that she did feel pretty left.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, this is why we're doing the rewatches because
Speaker 2: we got a deep dot. Now. I'm like, we got
Speaker 2: to go into that. So yeah, you gotta go there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But so she says, So she says that maybe
Speaker 1: basically because everyone leaves her, because that's the mindset she's in,
Speaker 1: you know that maybe that's why she's holding on to
Speaker 1: Karina so tight. Maybe that's why she's like, you know,
Speaker 1: she's scared of repeating the past, and so she wants
Speaker 1: to just keep her, keep her there with you, there
Speaker 1: with her.
Speaker 2: So I have a question for you, because we're gonna
Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna deep, deep,
Speaker 2: deep dive into these episodes. Do you remember meeting Stefania
Speaker 2: for the first time? Yeah, yeah, because we.
Speaker 1: Said, remember when we came back, we'd had like a
Speaker 1: you know, a hiatus break and Eliza Minnick was not returning.
Speaker 1: I was told that, yeah, And then I was told
Speaker 1: that there would be this sort of dalliance or what
Speaker 1: we referred to earlier as a tweeny and that was
Speaker 1: going to be Stefania, So it was it was, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I should know better. It's great anatomy. I
Speaker 1: came for three episodes and stayed for ten years, so
Speaker 1: I should have known that anything is possible. But I
Speaker 1: really did think.
Speaker 2: I don't even know why.
Speaker 1: I thought she really just was there for like an
Speaker 1: episode or two. Maybe I thought she had another job
Speaker 1: or I don't know, but she's so lovely.
Speaker 2: Did you think wows of Browser what a bombshell?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Because if I got to hook up with someone on
Speaker 2: the show and Stefandi walks in, I'm like, they're like, hi, hello, Hey,
Speaker 2: Hi hello. I mean she's for people that like don't
Speaker 2: know her in real life too. She's truly if you
Speaker 2: have a love interest, you want it to be Stefania,
Speaker 2: ough and so kind. She's the best. She really is.
Speaker 1: By the way, I think you were going with the
Speaker 1: sexy vibe, and I said kind, I interjected with kind.
Speaker 1: But that's because I feel that those you know, I know,
Speaker 1: I hate, I hate, like bursting the bubble, But those
Speaker 1: sexy scenes are not all that sexy, Like they're very
Speaker 1: technical and they're very like, Okay, so we're gonna go here,
Speaker 1: and your head's gonna go that way and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna kiss and then yeah, I mean, obviously you want
Speaker 1: to be overtaken with, you know, some fescione, but it's
Speaker 1: it's really mostly technical, and that's why you really want
Speaker 1: someone who's kind and a team player. And that's why
Speaker 1: there's so much conversation around Well that the the the
Speaker 1: the making of the job of an intimacy coordinator, right,
Speaker 1: like someone who comes in and helps you figure out
Speaker 1: what the dance is. That's what I used to always say,
Speaker 1: you have rehearsal because it's like a dance.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And she's a dancer, did you know that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a really good dancer.
Speaker 2: She's a great dancer. She's just elegant. It's almost annoying,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like she's almost it's
Speaker 2: like I needed to calm down a little bit. She
Speaker 2: walks in, I'm like, what'd you do to your hair?
Speaker 1: But she's too nice to be annoying. She doesn't even
Speaker 1: actually annoy me anyway. The point is is that you know,
Speaker 1: this is sort of this was sort of you know,
Speaker 1: a new love interest for you, and we're discussing it
Speaker 1: this episode, and in real life, Stefani is like dream casting, yeah,
Speaker 1: or something like this, and that's why.
Speaker 2: She you know, she's still with us. She's artist the
Speaker 2: universe now and so beloved. Okay, the next thing we
Speaker 2: cut to that I really am excited to talk about
Speaker 2: is that really funny moment there's April Bailey on the
Speaker 2: couch and Meredith walks in. I think is I think
Speaker 2: Meredith walks in and they're doing that. Really they're doing
Speaker 2: They're having a funeral, is what they said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with that very funny thing that they did with
Speaker 1: their voices.
Speaker 2: So the story behind that that people don't know is
Speaker 2: at the beginning of every season we would have this
Speaker 2: conversation that with the writers. We would have a meeting
Speaker 2: with the writers, and when Krista Vernoff started, another part
Speaker 2: of that meeting with the writers at the beginning of the
Speaker 2: season was like, hey, can you tell us any secret
Speaker 2: talents you have? And I was always like negative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't even remember being asked.
Speaker 1: She must have known I didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she sensed it from you. She's like, we've seen
Speaker 2: the musical episode. It's been enough. And but what people
Speaker 2: might not know is that Sarah Drew was like, yes,
Speaker 2: I can do this really weird bagpipey thing with my throat,
Speaker 2: and so she should. I remember her telling me the
Speaker 2: story that was her special skill that she presented to
Speaker 2: the writers and then it sort of, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: it was something she did and then forgot about, and
Speaker 2: lo and behold in this episode, they're like, we're gonna
Speaker 2: use it. We're gonna use I don't even know what
Speaker 2: you'd call it. It's this like tapping up the throat
Speaker 2: bagpipe and throat your pipe and the pipes, yep, playing
Speaker 2: the pipes. You're playing the pipes. And so that's where
Speaker 2: that came from. That came from this meeting that Sarah
Speaker 2: Drew had where she was asked about her special skills.
Speaker 2: And it was perfect because and I really laughed my
Speaker 2: ass off. Again, Julie is just such a funny writer.
Speaker 2: But when she said, she's like, I never got to
Speaker 2: heart bravery. I had a jacks Navy. It's not the same.
Speaker 2: So funny, but they're having a little they're having a little.
Speaker 1: Funeral yep, for their for their esteem, for the esteem
Speaker 1: that they had formerly for Marbury Breed. The steam has died.
Speaker 1: They're gonna bury it and Meredith walks in and and well,
Speaker 1: but also there's the piece where Bailey reveals that she
Speaker 1: has her.
Speaker 2: Own secret, Yeah, that she.
Speaker 1: Signed with this manufacturer.
Speaker 2: Yes, a sex toy she signed to. Okay, what's the
Speaker 2: story behind that again, it's like, produce the Trailblazer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna do. Yes. God, why where did that storyline go?
Speaker 2: I got he remind me, Meg's gotta we need to
Speaker 2: bring that.
Speaker 1: Yes, bring the Trailblazer back, the Trailblazer. I I'm surprised
Speaker 1: you could even do that on television. That happens between
Speaker 1: nine and ten PM.
Speaker 2: You know what, we're on it. We are on at ten,
Speaker 2: were on ten to eleven.
Speaker 1: Now that that's true, I guess, yeah, I guess I
Speaker 1: get after Dark.
Speaker 2: After Meredith walks in and then April tells.
Speaker 1: Her yes, but Bailey keeps talking to her about the
Speaker 1: deal that she made with the sex company which has
Speaker 1: this which has items that are similar to her device,
Speaker 1: and then she says she got the idea when Meredith
Speaker 1: called it the tail later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. This is what we do in Craz's anatomy.
Speaker 2: We do we do comedy. We do do comedy really well.
Speaker 1: Well, and I just got to Obviously, these are scenes
Speaker 1: we're not in, so we just got to watch them.
Speaker 1: I just watched them with deep amusement. And so then
Speaker 1: we go back to Levi, who's transporting. He's gotten the
Speaker 1: path pen, he's running through the hallway, he passes through
Speaker 1: the waiting room, and then that's when he has his crisis.
Speaker 1: And that, you know, Grays likes to give you a
Speaker 1: just a double click onto real investment in high stakes
Speaker 1: because he's looking at you know, this man's beautiful wife
Speaker 1: and children and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, well you keep a daddy alive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we have to have you run into the to the
Speaker 2: patients to remind you it's true though. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think I do like love that Grace does that because
Speaker 2: a lot of times you're working on somebody in our
Speaker 2: script and you're like almost you're so deep into the
Speaker 2: medical that you're forgetting like wait, like who is this
Speaker 2: person that I'm working on? And they do have a family,
Speaker 2: and that's yeah, that's doctoring and real.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's there to remind you just how
Speaker 1: how much you're supposed to care. So then when they
Speaker 1: go back to you and the O R and you're like,
Speaker 1: should I shouldn't I should I shouldn't I you have
Speaker 1: that face, you have that visual of that guy's family
Speaker 1: and realize.
Speaker 2: I feel like we especially like to do it to
Speaker 2: interns too. On the show. It's like we really like
Speaker 2: to drive it home with the interns, like, don't look
Speaker 2: it up. Yeah, you're not going to fuck it up.
Speaker 2: The attendants are attendings, are going to save the day,
Speaker 2: but there's a real possibility that you might kill someone
Speaker 2: as you're training at Grace Loan, and they like to
Speaker 2: show you like this is the family, which is why
Speaker 2: I have to say I don't understand why any patient
Speaker 2: agrees to be in a teaching hospital. Has no one
Speaker 2: brought this up because do you okay? For example, I
Speaker 2: went to Cedars and I'm pretty sure when I was
Speaker 2: giving birth they were like, hey, there's a crew of
Speaker 2: kids that want to come in and see is it's okay?
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, thank you. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: Cedars is a teaching hospital. So when I went to Cedars,
Speaker 2: I was like, hold up, hang on, are you guys
Speaker 2: teaching people here? I feel like people don't know until
Speaker 2: you're in it, right, Like I'm like, I'm not aware
Speaker 2: and that's.
Speaker 1: Not something you have to sign off on. You don't
Speaker 1: have to say I'm I'm I'm chill with a student
Speaker 1: doing this operation.
Speaker 2: I didn't have, you know, the intern class come in.
Speaker 1: You just reminded me of something. I have a friend
Speaker 1: who went in to have a breast situation okay, and
Speaker 1: she didn't know. She thought she was just going to
Speaker 1: the one doctor. And it turns out that they were
Speaker 1: many doctors. Like she said, when she went in, they
Speaker 1: were like more than the one doctor. And then she
Speaker 1: went into the surgery. She had her surgery. She came
Speaker 1: out and maybe like, I don't know whenever it would
Speaker 1: be that you'd like see your new boobs. She looked
Speaker 1: in the mirror and one nipple was like an inch
Speaker 1: off of the other. She was like going, what, it's
Speaker 1: not funny, it's not funny. It's very funny.
Speaker 2: Wait, so are you blaming me?
Speaker 1: And it turned out that that the students were working
Speaker 1: on one boo and the doctor was working on the other.
Speaker 2: You guys can't see my face. I'm like, literally, my
Speaker 2: mouth is wide open. What I don't think it was
Speaker 2: an inch?
Speaker 1: She showed She actually showed them to me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, there was a difference. My point is there
Speaker 1: was a difference, and it was because it was she
Speaker 1: found out later that UCLA was see. But I don't
Speaker 1: get the found out later part. I think you should
Speaker 1: know that hang on, hang on, hang on a tick here.
Speaker 1: If one of my boobsd on, hang on a tit here,
Speaker 1: if one of my boobs has been worked on by
Speaker 1: the interns and the other by the expert doctor, this
Speaker 1: boob better be discounted. I want like a I want
Speaker 1: a ninety percent.
Speaker 2: Off the the the test boob. Are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Like, are you a work in progress boob? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Also, I don't I have so much Okay, we got
Speaker 2: to get back. I have so many questions about this.
Speaker 2: My point is is that people I don't think that
Speaker 2: people are going to Grace Sloan, you know, and then
Speaker 2: they run into you know, little Joe Wilson or Levi
Speaker 2: and they don't realize that they might die.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we digress. Okay, these are parts we're not even
Speaker 1: in anyways. So then Amelia's driving with Alex and Owen
Speaker 1: and Leo, and then Owen's questioning his whole decision making
Speaker 1: process and Alex it is.
Speaker 2: So funny in the back He's like, I hate you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trop I hate you.
Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out because when in these
Speaker 2: driving scenes, I feel like we rarely do them actually
Speaker 2: on green screen, and a lot of times we go
Speaker 2: to Griffith Park in Los Angeles. In way, we drive
Speaker 2: through Griffith Park, which is an area that kind of
Speaker 2: looks more Seattle, right, like, we can't drive along Pacific
Speaker 2: Goa's Highway by the beach, in the palm trees. You're
Speaker 2: gonna notice that you're in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I've done that a couple of times. I think I've
Speaker 1: done it with you.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, the Griffith Park. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out if that was green screen.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell, but I have a feeling that was
Speaker 2: them actually driving through Griffith Park, which is fun because
Speaker 2: you have a camera right in front of you, hooked
Speaker 2: onto the hood of the car looking in at you.
Speaker 2: Any Way, back to Joe Well, said m h more importantly,
Speaker 2: obviously the most important scene of the show.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, obviously, obviously.
Speaker 2: She's testing the pen. We got to bring the pen back,
Speaker 2: testing the tent pen. I'm in there, I'm in all
Speaker 2: the goo and the gunk, and I can figure out
Speaker 2: that I need to save half her stomach, half his stomach.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but the payoff for him seeing the family
Speaker 1: comes here, because that's when Levi says, I met the
Speaker 1: family and I'm not so happy about the fact that
Speaker 1: this pen is still in a test phase, and I
Speaker 1: promised them that this guy is gonna be okay. So
Speaker 1: added pressure, Yes.
Speaker 2: You added pressure. Meritis still not telling me what I
Speaker 2: should be doing. But then I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I can save half his stomach and it's a triumph
Speaker 2: for miss Wilson. Again, I'm not just an in suction
Speaker 2: this episode. It's pretty badass.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. It's super badass. Then we go back
Speaker 1: to Arizona and Maggie, who are at another funeral, another
Speaker 1: funeral for the loverless patient. They're covering up the patient
Speaker 1: with a sheet and Maggie calls the time of death.
Speaker 1: I thought this was actually funny. Did you notice that
Speaker 1: I had my hand over my heart like someone.
Speaker 2: Would oh the national anthem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I decided to do with that. I
Speaker 1: decided to put my hand over my heart like because
Speaker 1: because she because she calls time of death and it's
Speaker 1: like some sort of ceremony, and Arizona's high, so she
Speaker 1: thinks that it could be like a national anthem moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's what's that's why, that's why my hand is
Speaker 1: over my heart.
Speaker 2: I love that it's a time of death for acute
Speaker 2: liver disappearance.
Speaker 1: Yep, a cute liver disappearance. And then Andrew's still on
Speaker 1: the floor imagining Sam. He reaches out. There's that sad
Speaker 1: moment where there's nothing there and then he starts sobbing,
Speaker 1: and then we're just kind of like.
Speaker 2: In Acamo is such a good actor, you guys.
Speaker 1: So now we go back to Richard who's taking care
Speaker 1: of Vic, and this is the moment of truth because
Speaker 1: he's gonna give little light sedation. But Vic says, what,
Speaker 1: so where can't do it? Because yeah, this is where
Speaker 1: he gives it off. He says, well, the light sedation
Speaker 1: if if whether or not I would interact porly with sorry,
Speaker 1: if diazepam would interact with other drugs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're just a dun duny, Vic, you're a gunner, listen.
Speaker 2: We can't keep the whole intern class. It's like ride
Speaker 2: a passage.
Speaker 1: No, and you can't do drugs while you're, you know,
Speaker 1: operating on people. Think about where that boob would be
Speaker 1: if he was in that surgery, right on your.
Speaker 2: Back, would be on her back. You got a back.
Speaker 1: Boob with that, I got my back boob. Put in
Speaker 1: the boob on the back. Okay. So now we go
Speaker 1: to Leo and Alex and Amelia and Owen and they're
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff, and then Amelia kind of is
Speaker 1: super sweet and it's like, it's so yeah.
Speaker 2: And I thought I would point out because I realized
Speaker 2: this because Alex is doing this. I don't know if
Speaker 2: people know this. So Alex is wrapping this like Teddy
Speaker 2: Bear on him right, and it it drops right. But
Speaker 2: I thought it reminded me because Justin wears this huge
Speaker 2: watch throughout the season, and I don't know if people
Speaker 2: know why he's wearing that watch. He's not just wearing
Speaker 2: it as a costume. He's wearing it because he is
Speaker 2: a tattoo right there in life and it's a quick,
Speaker 2: easy cover up for him.
Speaker 1: Then he reminds you of how he grew up being
Speaker 1: a foster kid and tells the story about how you
Speaker 1: just have to well in his very simple Alex logic.
Speaker 1: He's like, you just have to give a crap, you
Speaker 1: got to care, and he talks about the Wan Foster
Speaker 1: dad who just gave a crap.
Speaker 2: That's really Yeah, there's always Alex always comes in with
Speaker 2: like the very simple versus age truth. Yes, the same,
Speaker 2: the simple way of saying it.
Speaker 1: So now we're back to you and you're finishing up
Speaker 1: the procedure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've saved his quality of life. Amerethith's like,
Speaker 2: you know, if Meredith Gray is like you did what
Speaker 2: I would have done, that you did the right thing
Speaker 2: and do the right thing, then you are on your
Speaker 2: way to be cheap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she points out that you knew exactly what
Speaker 1: to do, but you had to trust yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Joe has a lot of I think, you know what,
Speaker 2: I think that's not just Joe, it's like all of
Speaker 2: us on the show. I like that we we have
Speaker 2: to constantly sort of realign ourselves with trusting ourselves. I
Speaker 2: think it just, you know, I like that on the
Speaker 2: show because they are all badass surgeons, even when their
Speaker 2: interns they are like great and they're amazing, and yes
Speaker 2: we make mistakes that I think that I just like
Speaker 2: that that there's an element always where there's some there's
Speaker 2: some sort of storyline where we have to really lean
Speaker 2: into the trust.
Speaker 1: But then Meredith has clueless and then Jackson ends up
Speaker 1: apologizing to his mom for doubting her. And then Meredith
Speaker 1: comes in and because she's heard about it right from
Speaker 1: April and Bailey and says, please tell me it's not true,
Speaker 1: because I worked my whole life for that award and
Speaker 1: all I've ever wanted is that award.
Speaker 2: And she asks what.
Speaker 1: Harper did, and Catherine says it is time to start
Speaker 1: telling the truth, and so they did, and then there's
Speaker 1: that moment where you're like, oh, even higher stakes. Meredith's like,
Speaker 1: was my mom one of the women? M Catherine's like nope, nope, nope, nope,
Speaker 1: and then Meredith signs out that that the women were
Speaker 1: paid for their silence and that they would never know
Speaker 1: work at a Harbor Avery hospital or enter the Harbor
Speaker 1: Avery Awards. And then that's when Meredith talks about how
Speaker 1: her mother fought her whole life for those awards.
Speaker 2: Did you feel like, Arizona, are you kind of pissed
Speaker 2: that she doesn't have a Harper Avery? Well, again, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I just really was playing her like
Speaker 2: the most confident woman in the world. But I feel
Speaker 2: like she'd be like harpar Avery, smart Bravery. Maybe I
Speaker 2: actually already have.
Speaker 1: Oh she was just she was always position like one
Speaker 1: of those people who like graduated high school by the
Speaker 1: time she was fourteen and like finished med school at
Speaker 1: twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm just I just on our show. The
Speaker 2: Harper Avery is the very thing was the thing, right,
Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering if you ever looked in Arizona's
Speaker 2: house and so to see if she had a shelf,
Speaker 2: and you're like, I'm gonna go with, yeah, she had one.
Speaker 2: Oh she already We got up, whichuld we text Meg?
Speaker 2: We need to text our show run and just let
Speaker 2: her give her heads up. Robins has a Harpor Avery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't even care about it before.
Speaker 2: But hold on because I thought that I thought that
Speaker 2: this part was very, very good.
Speaker 1: This is where the writers get so tricky and clever.
Speaker 1: So she's Meredith and Catherine are talking about what the
Speaker 1: exchange was, right, like what the woman need to do,
Speaker 1: and it come it's brought up that they could never
Speaker 1: enter the Harp Bravery Awards, and that's when Meredith has
Speaker 1: the thought if to ask if Murray Sarone rings a back, yes, right,
Speaker 1: because ye, she was one of the women. And now
Speaker 1: Meredith understands that that's why Ellis took Marie's name off
Speaker 1: the paper, which was a.
Speaker 2: Big story point and seemed so horrible. Yeah, and again
Speaker 2: this is this is not just this is the beginning
Speaker 2: of the mess of all of it, right, because it
Speaker 2: does not this does not get wrapped up in a
Speaker 2: bow at all this episode. This storyline continues as a
Speaker 2: big one through the season. And then I wrote down
Speaker 2: in my notes because it got my little notes saw
Speaker 2: me that we did an exterior cut, which means that
Speaker 2: we did a shot of outside. And I just want
Speaker 2: to explain that anytime we do shots of outside or
Speaker 2: shots of Seattle, these are these are stock footage that
Speaker 2: not stock footage, but like footage that we have taken
Speaker 2: at some point on a trip to Seattle when the
Speaker 2: film crew has gone right mm hmm is my understanding.
Speaker 2: And because we film in Los Angeles, so those cuts
Speaker 2: are not like the phone crew didn't you know, bounce
Speaker 2: to Seattle just to get this one shot. We have
Speaker 2: all these sort of saved up. But I will say,
Speaker 2: because we show a little shot of the hospital, I
Speaker 2: will say that every time that we do outside scenes,
Speaker 2: it's super rare that they don't take a hose to
Speaker 2: the pavement and just wet it down, even if it's
Speaker 2: not a raining scene. And I remember, like I think
Speaker 2: it's in this shot too. You'll see the pavements wet.
Speaker 1: That is all.
Speaker 2: We just always, always, always will be walking, especially at
Speaker 2: night on like a nice wet pavement, so it looks Seattle.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just rain because it rains all the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I also put that Meredith says, son of
Speaker 2: a bitch.
Speaker 1: Why did you put them?
Speaker 2: Because I didn't know that we could say the word
Speaker 2: bitch on the show. It like shocked me. I was like,
Speaker 2: wait what, I think it's Meredith's that said it. It's
Speaker 2: network TV, so you can. Yeah, So I was just
Speaker 2: I was I have never heard since anyone say bitch.
Speaker 2: I think I think I've heard.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard bitch an ass on network television.
Speaker 2: Ass is not the same as bitch.
Speaker 1: There's a list things. Oh, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could get if you get
Speaker 1: away with saying like you bitch, but maybe the son.
Speaker 2: Of the bitch.
Speaker 1: Mm so not my bitch.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe it's the contact. People don't know this,
Speaker 2: but like in the movies, sometimes you're only allowed to
Speaker 2: say the F You're like given a number of times
Speaker 2: you're allowed to say the F word.
Speaker 1: Well that's for the rating system, which I wonder how
Speaker 1: much people care anymore. Yeah, maybe not, but you get
Speaker 1: like one. Otherwise you're like bumped to an R. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can see seventeen for ten of them, so you're improvising.
Speaker 2: You have to really watch yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh anyway, eh me way, okay, So now we're back
Speaker 1: to Vick and Richard, which we weren't there for. But
Speaker 1: the storyline is the Vix like, I'm in trouble. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, can I please? Can I do surgery again?
Speaker 1: Will I ever have a Richard says absolutely not because
Speaker 1: his toxicen came back positive. Even the Victor Night how
Speaker 1: To eating a cookie and then Vix is half the
Speaker 1: attendings eight cookies, but Richard says, yeah, they were. They did,
Speaker 1: and they were honest and they acted responsibility because the
Speaker 1: problem was not in eating the cookies. The problem was
Speaker 1: in being dishonest about how to eat the cookies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you put patients at risk, so you know,
Speaker 1: back to the move on the back, and then Richard
Speaker 1: gets rid of them. And then on their way out.
Speaker 1: Now that you think okay, Jackson and Catherine are gonna
Speaker 1: they're they're armored up and they're on the same page
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get out ahead of this story. They
Speaker 1: look up to one of those little TVs that's in
Speaker 1: the waiting rooms and it's playing breaking news.
Speaker 2: It's breaking news about the Harper the Harper Avery.
Speaker 1: Misconduct and the Harper Avery of it all.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I saw that and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that actually has we use that little TV. Those TVs,
Speaker 2: I feel like a running utually the same, like they're
Speaker 2: on a loop story. They're on a loop. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: on a loop. You guys don't notice it, but it's
Speaker 2: like the same three It's like there's a plot in Seattle,
Speaker 2: but you know it's always from like nineteen seventy eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's it's the same news stories running those TVs
Speaker 2: that I've seen for like thirteen years, but we actually
Speaker 2: used it. I want to use it for this is perfect.
Speaker 1: So then it goes back to Arizona and she goes
Speaker 1: into the lounge to get her stuff. I actually love
Speaker 1: this because now she's not high anymore and she's confronted
Speaker 1: all these things that a different.
Speaker 2: Vibration brought to her.
Speaker 1: It's different, a different set of a different perspective. And
Speaker 1: when Karina comes in, I thought it was so sweet.
Speaker 1: She was almost like that she waited for. And then
Speaker 1: she's you know, she offers her a ride home, and
Speaker 1: Arizona's so happy, and then created it's like boll I
Speaker 1: wouldn't leave without saying goodbye, and then they kid it's cute.
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you, I was watching the scene
Speaker 2: and I had forgotten, you know how this storyline all
Speaker 2: goes in this episode, and I was expecting you to
Speaker 2: break up with her. Oh yeah, I was waiting for
Speaker 2: a moment of almost like things are too com like
Speaker 2: I'm too complicated right now, like I got to figure
Speaker 2: out my own stuff. And the fact that you said
Speaker 2: Callie's name, I was expecting her to come in and
Speaker 2: you have that conversation. So I was actually surprised by
Speaker 2: the kiss.
Speaker 1: I think she was. My take on it was that
Speaker 1: she was confronted with an alternate reality of being revisiting
Speaker 1: being left and not having someone, yeah and all that,
Speaker 1: and she was really grateful to have someone. Drugs were off,
Speaker 1: She didn't want to be alone, she wanted to be
Speaker 1: with someone, and I think she was grateful to have someone.
Speaker 2: Waiting for her. Yeah, yeah, no, I just I think
Speaker 2: it could have gone. It's one of those interesting moments
Speaker 2: as an audience member because like it could maybe go
Speaker 2: both ways, and sometimes you really don't know, and that well,
Speaker 2: and that's what's fun because I was like, oh, with
Speaker 2: the breakups and they're like, oh my god, they're kissing. Oh,
Speaker 2: she likes, okay, great, we're back on. We're back on.
Speaker 1: Oh where do we back on?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, we're back on. Okay, great, good, good good, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We're back in business. I did laugh at this moment.
Speaker 2: We go to Amelia and Owen's house and she's packing.
Speaker 2: Amelia's packing up a baggie of snacks for Alex to
Speaker 2: take home and gives them to Joe like Joe's his mom.
Speaker 1: Which is really funny.
Speaker 2: It's really funny. It's very funny. And again Amelia and Owen,
Speaker 2: I gotta say they, I mean, Katerina and Kevin. They've
Speaker 2: great chemistry because it's a party.
Speaker 1: She was staying when she was like, oh, I guess
Speaker 1: i'll go now, and he's like, oh, the baby's asleep.
Speaker 2: Of course she was staying. Yes, she was gonna stay.
Speaker 2: But I was like, what are you gonna stay?
Speaker 1: Stay?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I know, I know, And I did have some intrusive
Speaker 1: thoughts that were a little judgmental. You want to hear
Speaker 1: what they were, Yeah, tell me. I was like, wait
Speaker 1: a second, Owen, you signed up for this, and you
Speaker 1: signed up for this on your own, right if you weren't,
Speaker 1: you're not part of a couple, you don't have a partner,
Speaker 1: And then when you find out it's really happening, you
Speaker 1: call your lady friend who it's little complicated with that
Speaker 1: feels like a tether to you, and like, of course
Speaker 1: she's gonna stay. It's a baby.
Speaker 2: In Owen's defense, he signed up for it, but he
Speaker 2: could have gone any age, right, So I think he
Speaker 2: probably wasn't thinking like a baby, baby, baby, But it's
Speaker 2: it's that's what you're right, That's what he signed up for,
Speaker 2: and that's and he got the baby.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 2: But I I don't know the chemistry between those two
Speaker 2: is so good that you're a kind of like, where
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Fine?
Speaker 1: Oh fine, whatever, okay. So then they cut a leo
Speaker 1: and then they go to Andrew, who is downing go
Speaker 1: to gold a glass of water and lying down on
Speaker 1: the couch at Meredith, and then Maggie covers them up
Speaker 1: with the blankets. The end of the high everyone's come.
Speaker 2: Back to normal, I know, and she's got that cheese
Speaker 2: born yep.
Speaker 1: And Maggie has found out about the Harper Avery too,
Speaker 1: and then Meredith tells her Jackson didn't know, and the
Speaker 1: Meredith reading her mom's journal again and she doesn't know
Speaker 1: what to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not surprised. I gotta say, I'm not
Speaker 2: surprised that the fans picked this episode. There's so much
Speaker 2: going on, and I forgot because I remember all the
Speaker 2: funny moments, but I forgot like that the Harper Avery
Speaker 2: part of it. We might damn good TV over at
Speaker 2: Graze now, I mean, come on, I mean it really
Speaker 2: does deserve a rewatch. M hm, no doubt. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is why when Jessica and I meet people, they
Speaker 2: come up to us in you know, real life on
Speaker 2: the street and stuff. They all it's rare that someone's
Speaker 2: not like I've watched every season five hundred times and
Speaker 2: I get it. Oh, because I was sucked in and
Speaker 2: we were in it. I was like, where is this going?
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: I think that they also, I think this episode might
Speaker 2: have been chosen because not.
Speaker 1: All the time that the show really makes use of
Speaker 1: the whole cast, Like a lot of times they'll be,
Speaker 1: you know, just concentrate storylines on this person or that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that everybody uses them, and in this particular
Speaker 1: episode really truly, Yeah, almost everyone is used.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's own individual. Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think you get like a real sense
Speaker 1: of the community. I mean, that's what's so interesting. Oh,
Speaker 1: I might be saying something controversial, guys saying something controversial
Speaker 1: my friends. You know, the show wasn't always called Grey's Anatomy.
Speaker 1: When the show was first made as a pilot, it
Speaker 1: was called Surgeons. The show was never actually intended to
Speaker 1: solely revolve.
Speaker 2: Around a one surgeon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was meant to be about you know,
Speaker 1: the whole the whole shebang, the whole ensemble. So Gray's
Speaker 1: Anatomy was originally called Doctors. That's a very simple title.
Speaker 1: Then it was called Surgeons, and then finally it was
Speaker 1: called Complications. So it had a couple of names, but
Speaker 1: none of them was great. None of them were Grey's Anatomy,
Speaker 1: and obviously Grey's Anatomy singled out one of those doctor's
Speaker 1: Surgeons or Complications. And I think my point in bringing
Speaker 1: this up is that I while Meredith Gray is absolutely
Speaker 1: you know, I think as as people know the show,
Speaker 1: the central character in in the in the series, I
Speaker 1: don't know it's really an ensemble you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's controversial. I think that
Speaker 2: that's that's always No, I think it's controversy.
Speaker 1: Is it not contro osh, So it's not controversial to
Speaker 1: say that I actually don't think that it completely revolves
Speaker 1: around Meredith Gray. I think that it actually has always
Speaker 1: been an ensemble show.
Speaker 2: No, because I think that that's there are I can
Speaker 2: think of TV shows like Mayor of East Town and
Speaker 2: you're really seeing almost all of it through say Kate
Speaker 2: Winslet's point of view right on the show. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of point of views on this show. And then
Speaker 2: I so I think that it I think what you're
Speaker 2: saying is creatively correct. Yeah, because it's not just from
Speaker 2: her pav Yeah, I mean like we're seeing it from
Speaker 2: sort of everybody's well, this is and this is a
Speaker 2: great example of an episode that does that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it feels like it's really an ensemble. It's
Speaker 1: not just and I think that maybe that's I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing it out there. I think that maybe that's why
Speaker 1: it might be. You know, one of the favorites is
Speaker 1: that it's that it's very inclusive of all the different characters. No,
Speaker 1: I mean you and I get to, you know, be
Speaker 1: around people all the time who are super fans, and
Speaker 1: I always love hearing from them which characters they feel
Speaker 1: the you know, that they see themselves in, or that
Speaker 1: they that they find the most amusing, or that they
Speaker 1: are just so inspired by, or they think is you know,
Speaker 1: just they're in awe of and and everybody has different
Speaker 1: favorite characters. So the ensemble part of it gives some
Speaker 1: thing for everyone. There's like a there's a there's a
Speaker 1: there's a hook for anyone and everyone that loves a show.
Speaker 2: I also think, though, what was really smart about having
Speaker 2: some of the doctors take weed cookies or eatweed cookies
Speaker 2: is that everyone had to sort of drop. Everyone was
Speaker 2: forced to drop their any sort of holding any cards
Speaker 2: close to their chest, and they're just like raw everyone's
Speaker 2: viewing raw honesty, right, Like everyone's just saying exactly what
Speaker 2: that's on their mind and the moment. And there's a
Speaker 2: lot of times that the characters don't don't want to
Speaker 2: do that for good reason, and so it sort of
Speaker 2: was a great way to expose exactly where everyone's mindset
Speaker 2: was at m hm. Super smart. We have the smartest writers.
Speaker 2: I'm biased, but like we we have the best, Julie,
Speaker 2: we have the best. Well, first off, I think we
Speaker 2: have to do we do have to discuss whether we
Speaker 2: have ever had a weed cookie. I'm gonna say this
Speaker 2: right now. And by the way, it's legal in California,
Speaker 2: and it's also legal in Seattle, which is why we
Speaker 2: did the episode. I have never had an edible out
Speaker 2: of fear of my life. I had a friend that
Speaker 2: took I had this story of a friend that had
Speaker 2: eaten what she thought was a small piece of a
Speaker 2: b and it was like half a brownie and she
Speaker 2: didn't realize how much was in and she literally thought
Speaker 2: she was dying. There was a whole situation where she
Speaker 2: had to knock on her neighbor's door and say, like,
Speaker 2: I think I'm dying. You need to call nine one one.
Speaker 1: That would be embarrassing when they got there.
Speaker 2: It sucks. It sucks so bad. So no, I've never
Speaker 2: even had an edible, So it's not my jam. No
Speaker 2: judgment on anyone who's whose jam it is, But no,
Speaker 2: I'm too scared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a little anxiety around it, like you
Speaker 1: think it's not gonna go.
Speaker 2: Well, and yeah, yeah, I think it's gonna go horribly.
Speaker 2: I think I would be the person that would be
Speaker 2: running down the street screaming that I'm dying from.
Speaker 1: Like one bummy usually the profile of THHC and how
Speaker 1: it affects you, but I all.
Speaker 2: All the power to you.
Speaker 1: That would be me. You would I given like, Oh.
Speaker 2: It's not like.
Speaker 1: It's not a stimulant. I don't think right, But I
Speaker 1: think that there's a point where you could get my friend,
Speaker 1: your paranoia.
Speaker 2: Yes, you get high, and then it's like it's not
Speaker 2: like if you get drunk, you know, like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: gotta drink a lot of water, I'll eat some food,
Speaker 2: I'll sleep. It's like if you're too high, I don't
Speaker 2: know what you do if you're too high, it's hard
Speaker 2: to roll it back. You gotta you can't, and you
Speaker 2: don't know how long it's gonna last. There's no rollbacks.
Speaker 2: There's no rollbacks. You gotta see it in. That's gonna
Speaker 2: give me anxiety. That's going to give me anxiety too.
Speaker 2: I will think that I'm dying. Yeah, you're so. This
Speaker 2: is not for us, is the point.
Speaker 1: But I'm really really happy for anybody who it's fantastic for.
Speaker 1: I have loved watching rewatching. I'm so. I'm actually really
Speaker 1: psyched that this was something that it was technically work
Speaker 1: for me. I know we're going to do another one.
Speaker 1: Please hit us up with whatever is you know, we'll
Speaker 1: tell you what the second, the second most popular option was,
Speaker 1: but maybe we'll throw it out to you again before
Speaker 1: we actually do one, to make sure that it really
Speaker 1: is the one that you want to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and at some point we may have you know,
Speaker 2: guests from the episode on so that they can sort
Speaker 2: of give us some of the intel do a rewatch
Speaker 2: with someone. Yeah, you guys, this is very exciting to us.
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Again, Hopefully you didn't listen to
Speaker 2: this and not this one first, but if you did accidentally,
Speaker 2: go back, listen to the other episode and tell us
Speaker 2: what you want us to do next.
Speaker 1: Yes, please, yes please. I have loved spending this time
Speaker 1: with you, and for now I think we should call
Speaker 1: it Please and thesisode