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Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello, hello, hello, hello everybody, and welcome to our

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Speaker 2: Part two episode of Call It.

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Speaker 1: A Rewatch So nice. We had to do it twice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. We just did it. We didn't know,

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Speaker 2: we didn't know how long we were going to take,

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Speaker 2: and we were in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we were, yeah, we were really, we're taking this seriously.

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Speaker 2: We mean business.

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Speaker 1: We're not trifling with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, we're not. We're not missing around. No. No.

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Speaker 2: For those that are catching up, please go back and

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Speaker 2: listen to our episode that just aired on Sunday, February second.

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Speaker 2: It is our very first rewatch that we rewatch on

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Speaker 2: the pot. And we asked, we asked everybody, the crew

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Speaker 2: what they wanted us to review. What did you want?

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Speaker 2: What's your vibes? And you guys sit for you. I'll

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Speaker 2: take some weed. It takes a week.

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Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, I want to get high.

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Speaker 2: So we we want to get high with us. And

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Speaker 2: so we started that and and this is part two.

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Speaker 2: So if you need to go back listen, do that first.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think it's necessary if you haven't, I actually

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Speaker 1: think I'm debating I'm insisting that you go back and listen,

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Speaker 1: because if you don't, then I mean, just how will

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Speaker 1: this all make sense?

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we left off with, uh, Maggie, Yeah, Maggie

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Speaker 1: and DeLuca and I in the room and we don't

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Speaker 1: have a name for we.

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Speaker 2: What we talked about was that you guys were in

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Speaker 2: certain weed jails, right, so you're in you're you're sort

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Speaker 2: of been sequestered to certain areas of the hospital, and

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Speaker 2: you and Maggie and de Luca, way, de Luca are

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Speaker 2: in silent DeLuca silent la. He's I know, but it's

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Speaker 2: so sad and it works or in that room. I

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Speaker 2: don't even know what that do we ever figure out

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Speaker 2: what that real? That's what I just said. I don't

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Speaker 2: know the name I thought. Okay, yeah, we called it.

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Speaker 1: So Maggie's standing there with the kind of touch screen

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Speaker 1: body and she's panicking because she's high and she thinks

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Speaker 1: she's lost the patient's liver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were talking, you were talking about CALLI

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Speaker 2: and you're a little bit sad about.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mistakenly said the name Cally and stuff. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: and uh, and then that's when we were talking about

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Speaker 1: how it was sort of new for me in my

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Speaker 1: character because I'd never experienced Arizona as being super insecure.

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Speaker 1: But she goes on to say that everyone eventually leaves her, which.

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Speaker 2: Is so sad. That is sad? Is it true? Even

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Speaker 2: though that I think it's true, Yeah, in that moment,

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Speaker 2: she felt.

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Speaker 1: Like it was true. Well, listen, this would be probably

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Speaker 1: for another day, but you know, it was always very heroic.

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Speaker 1: This was another episode that was asked to be a rewatch.

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Speaker 1: Is when Arizona and Kelly go to court and Arizona

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Speaker 1: actually wins. Well, I mean who wins in this sort

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Speaker 1: makes the last minute choice to let Sophia go with Calli,

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Speaker 1: And I always thought, gosh, that's she let her go.

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Speaker 1: bit like how she let her daughter go. So anyways,

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Speaker 1: this is going back to her saying that everyone eventually

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, this is why we're doing the rewatches because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But so she says, So she says that maybe

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Speaker 2: So I have a question for you, because we're gonna

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Speaker 2: deep dive into these episodes. Do you remember meeting Stefania

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Speaker 2: I don't even know why.

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Speaker 1: I thought she really just was there for like an

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Speaker 2: Did you think wows of Browser what a bombshell?

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Speaker 2: the show and Stefandi walks in, I'm like, they're like, hi, hello, Hey,

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Speaker 2: know her in real life too. She's truly if you

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Speaker 2: ough and so kind. She's the best. She really is.

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Speaker 1: But that's because I feel that those you know, I know,

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Speaker 1: And she's a dancer, did you know that. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: this episode, and in real life, Stefani is like dream casting, yeah,

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Speaker 2: She you know, she's still with us. She's artist the

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Speaker 2: universe now and so beloved. Okay, the next thing we

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Speaker 2: cut to that I really am excited to talk about

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Speaker 2: is that really funny moment there's April Bailey on the

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Speaker 2: Meredith walks in and they're doing that. Really they're doing

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Speaker 2: They're having a funeral, is what they said.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with that very funny thing that they did with

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Speaker 2: So the story behind that that people don't know is

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of every season we would have this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't even remember being asked.

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Speaker 2: the musical episode. It's been enough. And but what people

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Speaker 2: lo and behold in this episode, they're like, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: But when she said, she's like, I never got to

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Speaker 1: but also there's the piece where Bailey reveals that she

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Speaker 2: Yes, a sex toy she signed to. Okay, what's the

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Speaker 2: story behind that again, it's like, produce the Trailblazer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yes, bring the Trailblazer back, the Trailblazer. I I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: you could even do that on television. That happens between

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Speaker 1: nine and ten PM.

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Speaker 2: were on ten to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Now that that's true, I guess, yeah, I guess I

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Speaker 2: After Meredith walks in and then April tells.

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Speaker 1: Her yes, but Bailey keeps talking to her about the

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Speaker 1: deal that she made with the sex company which has

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Speaker 1: this which has items that are similar to her device,

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Speaker 1: and then she says she got the idea when Meredith

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. This is what we do in Craz's anatomy.

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Speaker 2: We do we do comedy. We do do comedy really well.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I just got to Obviously, these are scenes

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Speaker 1: I just watched them with deep amusement. And so then

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Speaker 1: we go back to Levi, who's transporting. He's gotten the

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Speaker 1: And that, you know, Grays likes to give you a

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Speaker 1: just a double click onto real investment in high stakes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, well you keep a daddy alive. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Harper Avery is the very thing was the thing, right,

435
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Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering if you ever looked in Arizona's

436
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: house and so to see if she had a shelf,

437
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 2: and you're like, I'm gonna go with, yeah, she had one.

438
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: Oh she already We got up, whichuld we text Meg?

439
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 2: We need to text our show run and just let

440
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 2: her give her heads up. Robins has a Harpor Avery.

441
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't even care about it before.

442
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Speaker 2: But hold on because I thought that I thought that

443
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: this part was very, very good.

444
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: This is where the writers get so tricky and clever.

445
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: So she's Meredith and Catherine are talking about what the

446
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: exchange was, right, like what the woman need to do,

447
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: and it come it's brought up that they could never

448
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: enter the Harp Bravery Awards, and that's when Meredith has

449
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: the thought if to ask if Murray Sarone rings a back, yes, right,

450
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: because ye, she was one of the women. And now

451
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: Meredith understands that that's why Ellis took Marie's name off

452
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: the paper, which was a.

453
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: Big story point and seemed so horrible. Yeah, and again

454
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 2: this is this is not just this is the beginning

455
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: of the mess of all of it, right, because it

456
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: does not this does not get wrapped up in a

457
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: bow at all this episode. This storyline continues as a

458
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 2: big one through the season. And then I wrote down

459
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: in my notes because it got my little notes saw

460
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: me that we did an exterior cut, which means that

461
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: we did a shot of outside. And I just want

462
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: to explain that anytime we do shots of outside or

463
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: shots of Seattle, these are these are stock footage that

464
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: not stock footage, but like footage that we have taken

465
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Speaker 2: at some point on a trip to Seattle when the

466
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Speaker 2: film crew has gone right mm hmm is my understanding.

467
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: And because we film in Los Angeles, so those cuts

468
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: are not like the phone crew didn't you know, bounce

469
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: to Seattle just to get this one shot. We have

470
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: all these sort of saved up. But I will say,

471
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: because we show a little shot of the hospital, I

472
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: will say that every time that we do outside scenes,

473
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: it's super rare that they don't take a hose to

474
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Speaker 2: the pavement and just wet it down, even if it's

475
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Speaker 2: not a raining scene. And I remember, like I think

476
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Speaker 2: it's in this shot too. You'll see the pavements wet.

477
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Speaker 1: That is all.

478
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: We just always, always, always will be walking, especially at

479
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: night on like a nice wet pavement, so it looks Seattle.

480
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just rain because it rains all the time.

481
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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I also put that Meredith says, son of

482
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Speaker 2: a bitch.

483
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Speaker 1: Why did you put them?

484
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: Because I didn't know that we could say the word

485
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Speaker 2: bitch on the show. It like shocked me. I was like,

486
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: wait what, I think it's Meredith's that said it. It's

487
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: network TV, so you can. Yeah, So I was just

488
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 2: I was I have never heard since anyone say bitch.

489
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: I think I think I've heard.

490
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard bitch an ass on network television.

491
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Speaker 2: Ass is not the same as bitch.

492
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: There's a list things. Oh, I don't know, I don't know.

493
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you could get if you get

494
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: away with saying like you bitch, but maybe the son.

495
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Speaker 2: Of the bitch.

496
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: Mm so not my bitch.

497
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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe it's the contact. People don't know this,

498
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: but like in the movies, sometimes you're only allowed to

499
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: say the F You're like given a number of times

500
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Speaker 2: you're allowed to say the F word.

501
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: Well that's for the rating system, which I wonder how

502
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: much people care anymore. Yeah, maybe not, but you get

503
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: like one. Otherwise you're like bumped to an R. Yeah,

504
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: you can see seventeen for ten of them, so you're improvising.

505
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: You have to really watch yourself.

506
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh anyway, eh me way, okay, So now we're back

507
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: to Vick and Richard, which we weren't there for. But

508
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: the storyline is the Vix like, I'm in trouble. Oh

509
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: my gosh, can I please? Can I do surgery again?

510
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: Will I ever have a Richard says absolutely not because

511
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: his toxicen came back positive. Even the Victor Night how

512
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: To eating a cookie and then Vix is half the

513
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: attendings eight cookies, but Richard says, yeah, they were. They did,

514
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: and they were honest and they acted responsibility because the

515
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: problem was not in eating the cookies. The problem was

516
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: in being dishonest about how to eat the cookies. Yeah,

517
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: and then you put patients at risk, so you know,

518
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: back to the move on the back, and then Richard

519
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: gets rid of them. And then on their way out.

520
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Speaker 1: Now that you think okay, Jackson and Catherine are gonna

521
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: they're they're armored up and they're on the same page

522
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get out ahead of this story. They

523
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: look up to one of those little TVs that's in

524
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: the waiting rooms and it's playing breaking news.

525
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: It's breaking news about the Harper the Harper Avery.

526
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Misconduct and the Harper Avery of it all.

527
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Speaker 2: It's funny because I saw that and I was like, oh,

528
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: that actually has we use that little TV. Those TVs,

529
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Speaker 2: I feel like a running utually the same, like they're

530
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: on a loop story. They're on a loop. Yeah, they're

531
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 2: on a loop. You guys don't notice it, but it's

532
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: like the same three It's like there's a plot in Seattle,

533
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: but you know it's always from like nineteen seventy eight. Yeah,

534
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: and it's it's the same news stories running those TVs

535
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: that I've seen for like thirteen years, but we actually

536
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: used it. I want to use it for this is perfect.

537
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: So then it goes back to Arizona and she goes

538
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: into the lounge to get her stuff. I actually love

539
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: this because now she's not high anymore and she's confronted

540
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: all these things that a different.

541
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: Vibration brought to her.

542
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: It's different, a different set of a different perspective. And

543
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: when Karina comes in, I thought it was so sweet.

544
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: She was almost like that she waited for. And then

545
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: she's you know, she offers her a ride home, and

546
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: Arizona's so happy, and then created it's like boll I

547
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't leave without saying goodbye, and then they kid it's cute.

548
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you, I was watching the scene

549
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: and I had forgotten, you know how this storyline all

550
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: goes in this episode, and I was expecting you to

551
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: break up with her. Oh yeah, I was waiting for

552
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: a moment of almost like things are too com like

553
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm too complicated right now, like I got to figure

554
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: out my own stuff. And the fact that you said

555
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: Callie's name, I was expecting her to come in and

556
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: you have that conversation. So I was actually surprised by

557
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: the kiss.

558
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: I think she was. My take on it was that

559
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: she was confronted with an alternate reality of being revisiting

560
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: being left and not having someone, yeah and all that,

561
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: and she was really grateful to have someone. Drugs were off,

562
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: She didn't want to be alone, she wanted to be

563
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: with someone, and I think she was grateful to have someone.

564
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: Waiting for her. Yeah, yeah, no, I just I think

565
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: it could have gone. It's one of those interesting moments

566
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: as an audience member because like it could maybe go

567
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: both ways, and sometimes you really don't know, and that well,

568
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: and that's what's fun because I was like, oh, with

569
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: the breakups and they're like, oh my god, they're kissing. Oh,

570
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: she likes, okay, great, we're back on. We're back on.

571
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh where do we back on?

572
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

573
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Yes, we're back on. Okay, great, good, good good, Yeah.

574
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: We're back in business. I did laugh at this moment.

575
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: We go to Amelia and Owen's house and she's packing.

576
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: Amelia's packing up a baggie of snacks for Alex to

577
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: take home and gives them to Joe like Joe's his mom.

578
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Which is really funny.

579
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: It's really funny. It's very funny. And again Amelia and Owen,

580
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: I gotta say they, I mean, Katerina and Kevin. They've

581
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: great chemistry because it's a party.

582
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: She was staying when she was like, oh, I guess

583
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: i'll go now, and he's like, oh, the baby's asleep.

584
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: Of course she was staying. Yes, she was gonna stay.

585
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: But I was like, what are you gonna stay?

586
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Stay?

587
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

588
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: I know, I know, And I did have some intrusive

589
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: thoughts that were a little judgmental. You want to hear

590
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: what they were, Yeah, tell me. I was like, wait

591
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: a second, Owen, you signed up for this, and you

592
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: signed up for this on your own, right if you weren't,

593
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: you're not part of a couple, you don't have a partner,

594
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: And then when you find out it's really happening, you

595
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: call your lady friend who it's little complicated with that

596
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: feels like a tether to you, and like, of course

597
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: she's gonna stay. It's a baby.

598
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: In Owen's defense, he signed up for it, but he

599
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: could have gone any age, right, So I think he

600
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: probably wasn't thinking like a baby, baby, baby, But it's

601
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: it's that's what you're right, That's what he signed up for,

602
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: and that's and he got the baby.

603
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Baby.

604
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 2: But I I don't know the chemistry between those two

605
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: is so good that you're a kind of like, where

606
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: is this?

607
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Okay?

608
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: Fine?

609
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Oh fine, whatever, okay. So then they cut a leo

610
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: and then they go to Andrew, who is downing go

611
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: to gold a glass of water and lying down on

612
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: the couch at Meredith, and then Maggie covers them up

613
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: with the blankets. The end of the high everyone's come.

614
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: Back to normal, I know, and she's got that cheese

615
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: born yep.

616
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: And Maggie has found out about the Harper Avery too,

617
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: and then Meredith tells her Jackson didn't know, and the

618
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Meredith reading her mom's journal again and she doesn't know

619
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: what to do.

620
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not surprised. I gotta say, I'm not

621
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: surprised that the fans picked this episode. There's so much

622
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: going on, and I forgot because I remember all the

623
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: funny moments, but I forgot like that the Harper Avery

624
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: part of it. We might damn good TV over at

625
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: Graze now, I mean, come on, I mean it really

626
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: does deserve a rewatch. M hm, no doubt. I mean,

627
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: this is why when Jessica and I meet people, they

628
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: come up to us in you know, real life on

629
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: the street and stuff. They all it's rare that someone's

630
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: not like I've watched every season five hundred times and

631
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: I get it. Oh, because I was sucked in and

632
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: we were in it. I was like, where is this going?

633
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: It's great.

634
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: I think that they also, I think this episode might

635
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: have been chosen because not.

636
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: All the time that the show really makes use of

637
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: the whole cast, Like a lot of times they'll be,

638
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, just concentrate storylines on this person or that. Yeah,

639
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: I think that everybody uses them, and in this particular

640
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: episode really truly, Yeah, almost everyone is used.

641
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's own individual. Yes.

642
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think you get like a real sense

643
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: of the community. I mean, that's what's so interesting. Oh,

644
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: I might be saying something controversial, guys saying something controversial

645
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: my friends. You know, the show wasn't always called Grey's Anatomy.

646
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: When the show was first made as a pilot, it

647
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: was called Surgeons. The show was never actually intended to

648
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: solely revolve.

649
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: Around a one surgeon.

650
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was meant to be about you know,

651
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Speaker 1: the whole the whole shebang, the whole ensemble. So Gray's

652
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Speaker 1: Anatomy was originally called Doctors. That's a very simple title.

653
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Speaker 1: Then it was called Surgeons, and then finally it was

654
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Speaker 1: called Complications. So it had a couple of names, but

655
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Speaker 1: none of them was great. None of them were Grey's Anatomy,

656
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: and obviously Grey's Anatomy singled out one of those doctor's

657
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Speaker 1: Surgeons or Complications. And I think my point in bringing

658
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Speaker 1: this up is that I while Meredith Gray is absolutely

659
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Speaker 1: you know, I think as as people know the show,

660
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Speaker 1: the central character in in the in the series, I

661
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Speaker 1: don't know it's really an ensemble you know.

662
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's controversial. I think that

663
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Speaker 2: that's that's always No, I think it's controversy.

664
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Speaker 1: Is it not contro osh, So it's not controversial to

665
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Speaker 1: say that I actually don't think that it completely revolves

666
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Speaker 1: around Meredith Gray. I think that it actually has always

667
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Speaker 1: been an ensemble show.

668
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Speaker 2: No, because I think that that's there are I can

669
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Speaker 2: think of TV shows like Mayor of East Town and

670
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Speaker 2: you're really seeing almost all of it through say Kate

671
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Speaker 2: Winslet's point of view right on the show. There's a

672
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Speaker 2: lot of point of views on this show. And then

673
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Speaker 2: I so I think that it I think what you're

674
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Speaker 2: saying is creatively correct. Yeah, because it's not just from

675
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Speaker 2: her pav Yeah, I mean like we're seeing it from

676
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Speaker 2: sort of everybody's well, this is and this is a

677
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Speaker 2: great example of an episode that does that.

678
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it feels like it's really an ensemble. It's

679
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Speaker 1: not just and I think that maybe that's I'm just

680
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Speaker 1: throwing it out there. I think that maybe that's why

681
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Speaker 1: it might be. You know, one of the favorites is

682
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Speaker 1: that it's that it's very inclusive of all the different characters. No,

683
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Speaker 1: I mean you and I get to, you know, be

684
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Speaker 1: around people all the time who are super fans, and

685
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: I always love hearing from them which characters they feel

686
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Speaker 1: the you know, that they see themselves in, or that

687
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Speaker 1: they that they find the most amusing, or that they

688
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: are just so inspired by, or they think is you know,

689
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: just they're in awe of and and everybody has different

690
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: favorite characters. So the ensemble part of it gives some

691
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: thing for everyone. There's like a there's a there's a

692
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: there's a hook for anyone and everyone that loves a show.

693
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Speaker 2: I also think, though, what was really smart about having

694
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Speaker 2: some of the doctors take weed cookies or eatweed cookies

695
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: is that everyone had to sort of drop. Everyone was

696
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: forced to drop their any sort of holding any cards

697
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Speaker 2: close to their chest, and they're just like raw everyone's

698
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: viewing raw honesty, right, Like everyone's just saying exactly what

699
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: that's on their mind and the moment. And there's a

700
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Speaker 2: lot of times that the characters don't don't want to

701
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: do that for good reason, and so it sort of

702
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: was a great way to expose exactly where everyone's mindset

703
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Speaker 2: was at m hm. Super smart. We have the smartest writers.

704
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Speaker 2: I'm biased, but like we we have the best, Julie,

705
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Speaker 2: we have the best. Well, first off, I think we

706
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: have to do we do have to discuss whether we

707
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Speaker 2: have ever had a weed cookie. I'm gonna say this

708
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Speaker 2: right now. And by the way, it's legal in California,

709
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: and it's also legal in Seattle, which is why we

710
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Speaker 2: did the episode. I have never had an edible out

711
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: of fear of my life. I had a friend that

712
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Speaker 2: took I had this story of a friend that had

713
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Speaker 2: eaten what she thought was a small piece of a

714
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Speaker 2: b and it was like half a brownie and she

715
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: didn't realize how much was in and she literally thought

716
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Speaker 2: she was dying. There was a whole situation where she

717
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: had to knock on her neighbor's door and say, like,

718
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: I think I'm dying. You need to call nine one one.

719
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Speaker 1: That would be embarrassing when they got there.

720
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Speaker 2: It sucks. It sucks so bad. So no, I've never

721
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: even had an edible, So it's not my jam. No

722
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: judgment on anyone who's whose jam it is, But no,

723
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm too scared.

724
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a little anxiety around it, like you

725
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: think it's not gonna go.

726
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: Well, and yeah, yeah, I think it's gonna go horribly.

727
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: I think I would be the person that would be

728
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: running down the street screaming that I'm dying from.

729
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: Like one bummy usually the profile of THHC and how

730
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Speaker 1: it affects you, but I all.

731
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Speaker 2: All the power to you.

732
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: That would be me. You would I given like, Oh.

733
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: It's not like.

734
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: It's not a stimulant. I don't think right, But I

735
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: think that there's a point where you could get my friend,

736
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: your paranoia.

737
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: Yes, you get high, and then it's like it's not

738
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: like if you get drunk, you know, like, Okay, I

739
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: gotta drink a lot of water, I'll eat some food,

740
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: I'll sleep. It's like if you're too high, I don't

741
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: know what you do if you're too high, it's hard

742
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: to roll it back. You gotta you can't, and you

743
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: don't know how long it's gonna last. There's no rollbacks.

744
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: There's no rollbacks. You gotta see it in. That's gonna

745
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: give me anxiety. That's going to give me anxiety too.

746
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: I will think that I'm dying. Yeah, you're so. This

747
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 2: is not for us, is the point.

748
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: But I'm really really happy for anybody who it's fantastic for.

749
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Speaker 1: I have loved watching rewatching. I'm so. I'm actually really

750
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: psyched that this was something that it was technically work

751
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: for me. I know we're going to do another one.

752
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: Please hit us up with whatever is you know, we'll

753
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: tell you what the second, the second most popular option was,

754
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: but maybe we'll throw it out to you again before

755
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: we actually do one, to make sure that it really

756
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: is the one that you want to talk about.

757
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and at some point we may have you know,

758
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: guests from the episode on so that they can sort

759
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: of give us some of the intel do a rewatch

760
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: with someone. Yeah, you guys, this is very exciting to us.

761
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Again, Hopefully you didn't listen to

762
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: this and not this one first, but if you did accidentally,

763
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: go back, listen to the other episode and tell us

764
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: what you want us to do next.

765
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: Yes, please, yes please. I have loved spending this time

766
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Speaker 1: with you, and for now I think we should call

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Speaker 1: it Please and thesisode