WEBVTT - Ep. 127: THIS COUNTRY LIFE - Know Your Trees!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this Country Life. I'm your host, Brent Reeves

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<v Speaker 1>from coon hunting to trot lining and just general country living.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to stay a while as I share

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<v Speaker 1>my stories and the country skills that will help you

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<v Speaker 1>beat the system. This Country Life is proudly presented as

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<v Speaker 1>part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network, bringing you the best

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor podcast the airways have to offer. All right, friends,

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<v Speaker 1>pull you up a chair or drop that tailgate. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got a thing or two to teach you

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<v Speaker 1>know your trees. Tree identification is more important than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some folks think, and being able to tell the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between a red oak and a white oak could be

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<v Speaker 1>the difference in going hungry or coming home with a

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<v Speaker 1>sackful of supper. Trees on the landscape tell a story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never too late to learn the difference, says, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's never been easier to do it right now. Why

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy right now because right now is when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, and the amount of information available has

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<v Speaker 1>never been greater. I'm challenging you to know the woods

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<v Speaker 1>you're rambling around in. The more you know, the better

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to help you in every pursuit that you

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<v Speaker 1>have that takes place in the woods. No, you trees

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<v Speaker 1>us up next. But first I'm going to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a story. In high school at Warren, Arkansas, I took

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<v Speaker 1>a two year forestry class at the Votech campus along

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<v Speaker 1>with my old watermelon stealing buddy Greg Hayes. I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to think this guy may have been a bad influence.

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<v Speaker 1>But our teacher was a bona fide of registered forester

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<v Speaker 1>and his name was Fred Burnett. It's still Fred Burnett anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The Warren Votech took students from all over southeast Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>and offered welding, construction, trade, nursing, business courses, and forestry.

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<v Speaker 1>The forestry class was absolutely outstanding. It was also hard.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to learn to identify seventy five different species

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<v Speaker 1>of trees that grew in Arkansas along with their scientific names,

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to identify them by their leaves and

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<v Speaker 1>the characteristics of their bark, limbs, and twigs. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>it and everything about it. The majority of the instruction

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<v Speaker 1>weather permitting was always outside, which is where I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be anyway. There were around on fifteen of us

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in the class from four different area high schools,

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<v Speaker 1>and like little Turkey polts following a mother hen we

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<v Speaker 1>trailed mister Burnett all over the school campus learned about

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<v Speaker 1>all the aspects of trees and where they grew. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember exactly where we were standing a week into school

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<v Speaker 1>when he looked at me and told me to identify

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<v Speaker 1>a tree and give him the scientific name. We had

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<v Speaker 1>just are studying this stuff, and we were at the

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<v Speaker 1>south entrance to the school campus that doesn't even exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Beside the driveway where the votech bus was parked was

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<v Speaker 1>a tree, and everyone in the class was waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>me to screw it up when I said American sweet

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<v Speaker 1>gum liquid AMBARSTI rest of Fleua, correct, said mister Burnett.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was forty one years ago, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it like it was this morning. Lucky for me, it

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<v Speaker 1>was also the first one that I had learned. I

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<v Speaker 1>could tell you about ten different trees before I started

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<v Speaker 1>that class, but the scientific names, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>gravy of the tree ied game. We were also blessed

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<v Speaker 1>to have a school forest about fifteen acres of mixed

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<v Speaker 1>pine and hardwood, and that was our real classroom. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where we made money to finance school projects and trips.

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<v Speaker 1>Those woods are gone now and have been for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, but back then, selling firewood was our mission.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine this kind of curriculum in schools now.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm wrong, but we had chainsaws and we used them.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of us had used them at home before

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<v Speaker 1>we ever got to high school, and those that hadn't,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Burnette taught him how to do it. We'd take

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<v Speaker 1>turns notching and cutting trees, trimming the limbs, cutting the

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<v Speaker 1>log into firewood links, and then take a bolting axe

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<v Speaker 1>or splitting them all, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>and split the wood for stacking. At school. Chainsaws, bolton axes,

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<v Speaker 1>sledge hammers, steel wedges, single and double bit axes were

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<v Speaker 1>all at our disposal. It looked like a children's prison

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<v Speaker 1>gang out there, and mister Burnett was the warden. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Having kids from different schools, especially those from rival schools,

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<v Speaker 1>always put an extra dynamic of competition amongst the students.

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<v Speaker 1>Terry was a guy from just such a school. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a good guy, a good athlete, but always competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was a competition to him. Terry told me that

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<v Speaker 1>while I was pretty good with a chainsaw, that there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a cut off section of wood that he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>split with a double bit axe. He then proceeded to

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate it by easily splitting a cut red oak and

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<v Speaker 1>the pieces ready for the fireplace. Terry was a show off,

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<v Speaker 1>but Brent was diabolical, and when he said there ain't

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<v Speaker 1>a cut off piece of wood out here that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't split, being at my limit of having to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to him say how good he was at everything, I

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<v Speaker 1>accepted his challenge and rolled him up a two foot

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<v Speaker 1>in diameter and beautifully round cut of sweet coat. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who knows anything about splitting wood and burning wood

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<v Speaker 1>knows that oak cut offs split good when they're green,

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<v Speaker 1>and great when they've been put up to dry. Sweet gum,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, do not. The twisted woven grain

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<v Speaker 1>of the sweet gum is terrible for splitting, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically useless as firewood. Whoever cut it down that day

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<v Speaker 1>must have just been practicing, because I can assure you

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<v Speaker 1>mister Burnett wasn't about to have us split it up

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<v Speaker 1>and stack it for sale. But that wasn't Terry's challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>He said there wasn't a cutoff out there that he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't split with a double bit axe. Well, remember Greg Hayes,

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<v Speaker 1>my partner in Watermelon Crime, my lifelong to this very

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<v Speaker 1>day friend, that's more like a brother. That guy, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I blame him for what happened next, because he should

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<v Speaker 1>have stopped me. He knew just as well as I

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<v Speaker 1>did that he wasn't going to be able to split that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with an axe. You could have loaded that thing

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<v Speaker 1>up in a cannon and shot it through a fire

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<v Speaker 1>truck and not knocked the bark off of it. Sweet

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<v Speaker 1>gum doesn't split well. But Terry, he was a competitor.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew the challenge that lay before him, and he

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<v Speaker 1>walked around that end table size cut off, sizing it

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<v Speaker 1>up and looking for a weak spot. He was toting

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<v Speaker 1>that double bit axe like thor toased his hammer as

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to stare it down. He stopped and looked

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<v Speaker 1>up at each of us like he knew something we didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>and he grinned and he spit on that cutoff, marking

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<v Speaker 1>his spot. I looked at Gregg and we smiled. Then

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<v Speaker 1>that cat slowly raised that axe above his head and

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<v Speaker 1>with one mighty stroke, he landed that axe blade precisely

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<v Speaker 1>where he'd planned, and was as surprised as that both

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<v Speaker 1>of us when the axe bounced straight back, hitting him

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<v Speaker 1>with the opposite side blade on the forehead above his

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<v Speaker 1>left eye. It was a bang bang play. None of

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<v Speaker 1>us had time to react. Before the love of humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't trying to kill him. The amount of litigation

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<v Speaker 1>that would take place in these times makes me shudder

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine what would happen. But those times were different.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a two hitch cut on his head that

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<v Speaker 1>bled pretty good for a few minutes. Mister Burnett applied

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<v Speaker 1>some galls from the first daid kit that he kept

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<v Speaker 1>with us and took him to the school nurse and

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<v Speaker 1>the nursing students got to work on a real live

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<v Speaker 1>dummy instead of a plastic one. He came out of

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<v Speaker 1>there smiling after having all those gals fussing over him

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<v Speaker 1>and wrapped up like he been loaded in a cannon

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<v Speaker 1>and shot through a fire truck. But that was all.

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<v Speaker 1>No one got sued, No one got in trouble, not

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<v Speaker 1>bad trouble. Anyway, mister Burnett had what I'd call a

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful exchange of ideas with all three of us, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was it. This wouldn't be the last adventure in

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<v Speaker 1>that class, but that's for another time. But before someone

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<v Speaker 1>writes in it says anything negative about the supervision or

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a lack of it, let me remind

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<v Speaker 1>you that we had all gone through safety training and

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<v Speaker 1>chose to ignore what we knew were tried and true

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<v Speaker 1>practices of safety in that setting, Mister Burnett couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere at once to keep idiots from causing their own calamity,

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<v Speaker 1>just like a coach can't be to prevent an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>from injuring themselves, or or my high school a teacher

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I filled a pipe full of stlene

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<v Speaker 1>stuffed full of wet paper towels, lit it and shot

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<v Speaker 1>them across the shop and agg class like a Roman candle.

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<v Speaker 1>That was all on us, nobody else. Mister Burnett will

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<v Speaker 1>go on to become the forester at a Central Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>military base and eventually retire as the fire management officer

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<v Speaker 1>for the Arkansas Forestry Commission. You don't rise to those

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<v Speaker 1>positions being inattentive or characters. He's a grandpa now, and

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<v Speaker 1>a good man and a great influence on me, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's just how that happened. It's been said the best

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<v Speaker 1>deer killers probably don't know what kind of tree they're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in, So why does it matter. It matters because

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<v Speaker 1>all animals operate on the three necessities of life, food, water,

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<v Speaker 1>and shelter. Food and shelter can be provided by trees

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<v Speaker 1>and water. Well that can be located by the types

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<v Speaker 1>of trees that you observe. Trees are also a static

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<v Speaker 1>identifier for a whole bunch of stuff. They'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the potential wildlife that lives there. They can tell the

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<v Speaker 1>air you're entering or leaving as different species grow in

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<v Speaker 1>different terrain types. They can tell you the general health

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<v Speaker 1>of the ecosystem you're operating in, and possibly be a

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<v Speaker 1>barometer for your potential success in that space, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least the opportunity for success. Healthy trees usually dictate healthy wildlife,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for all wildlife. Sometimes the absence of trees

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<v Speaker 1>is even more beneficial, or at least in that same area.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay with me, there's no one that likes an

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<v Speaker 1>open hardwood bottom more than me. Seeing that grand overstory

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<v Speaker 1>of giant oak trees is both peaceful and nostalgic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>our nature to love things and to have order, and

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<v Speaker 1>the neat defined contrast between an open hardwood flat and

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<v Speaker 1>a briar laden thicket is a prime example of how

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<v Speaker 1>predators in prey coexist in the same space. One time,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad and I was squirrel hunting and sleaning over

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<v Speaker 1>bottoms where I grew up. Peanup was treated, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to him by cutting across a thicket from

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<v Speaker 1>one spot of timber to the next. I was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>behind him on our big buckskin horse with the toes

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<v Speaker 1>of my boots dug in behind the bend of his knees,

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<v Speaker 1>and my hands were running deep in his pockets of

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<v Speaker 1>his old army green hunting coat, and I was squeezing

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<v Speaker 1>him as hard as I could to hang on with

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<v Speaker 1>my face buried in the middle of his back, as

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<v Speaker 1>we rode through a patch of briers so thick a

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit would have had the toe to hatchet with him

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<v Speaker 1>to get around in. We busted out on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side and I could relax and look around. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>telling him how much I hated those thickets, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I wished all of it could look like the open

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<v Speaker 1>timber we were riding in now. And I never will

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<v Speaker 1>forget how he described it looking when he was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just something. When I was your age, I could

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<v Speaker 1>run barefoot from Mount Eby to the Califorard. Y'all just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to trust me on that one. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>long way from down the river through the woods from

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<v Speaker 1>those two places. But he said, I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about stepping on briars, getting hung up in BlackBerry thickets,

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<v Speaker 1>or even slowing down to look at deer tracks. When

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<v Speaker 1>I asked why he wouldn't slow down to look at

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<v Speaker 1>deer tracks, he said, because there wasn't any deer in

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<v Speaker 1>here to make them. Now, don't get me wrong. They

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<v Speaker 1>were deer in Arkansas way before my dad was a

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<v Speaker 1>little boy. Fernando de Soto was trapsing around here for

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<v Speaker 1>about a year starting in fifteen forty one, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was trading goods and visiting with the Caddo Indians who

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<v Speaker 1>were wearing buckskins that came from here, and the meat

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<v Speaker 1>that they ate was a large part of their diet,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can dig it. Less than an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexis had me lay out a package of burger to

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<v Speaker 1>throw out for supper tonight. Those folks knew what was good,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do too. His point to why of the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>the open woods looked so good to me was because

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<v Speaker 1>we were out there to catch stuff and eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's another side note. He was making a point

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<v Speaker 1>about predators. But don't anyone think for a minute that

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<v Speaker 1>he was about to eat one of the squirrels we'd

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<v Speaker 1>kill that day or any other day. He wouldn't at

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<v Speaker 1>one if he'd have been starving, slapped to death. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>help me skin them and even cook them for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but eat them, not buddy reeves, and not for any

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money. He gave them away to neighbors, traded

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<v Speaker 1>them to a man down the road for snake bite medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>and anyone that wanted them. But he wouldn't eat one.

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<v Speaker 1>And why he wouldn't eat one, that's a whole other story. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>He told me, the better that we could see, the

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<v Speaker 1>better chance we had of slipping around and getting close

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<v Speaker 1>enough to something to catch it. It worked the same

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<v Speaker 1>way with animals, And while that didn't endear me the thickets,

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<v Speaker 1>it did make me realize that, you know, they were important.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the necessities of life. We talked about shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>Those thickets are where deer lay up to have their

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<v Speaker 1>phones hidden from any and everything that was running around

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make a bamb sandwich out of them. They

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<v Speaker 1>also hold the brows and a million other goodies and

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why they're beneficials to a multitude of animals found

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<v Speaker 1>in and around them. Maybe we'll talk about thickets one day,

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<v Speaker 1>but this day ain't it. We're talking about trees and

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<v Speaker 1>importance of knowing the difference. You don't have to know

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<v Speaker 1>the scientific names of trees, but it's important. It's hunters

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<v Speaker 1>and observers, the wildlife that we understand as best we can,

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<v Speaker 1>the environment that we find ourselves operating in. Being able

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the difference in mass producing trees, evergreens and

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<v Speaker 1>decideous trees that's the ones that lose their leaves in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall is one of the best eras in your quiver.

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<v Speaker 1>And not all decidus trees lose their leaves at the

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<v Speaker 1>same rate or begin at the same time. If your

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<v Speaker 1>summer scouting and you looking to hang a stand in

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<v Speaker 1>that perfect spot where trails come together, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be there for an October bow hunt in Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>and you choose a tree with limbs that come out

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<v Speaker 1>at a ninety degree angle with great leaf cover, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be shining like a diamond and a coach. But by

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<v Speaker 1>the time that October gets here, because the tree you

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<v Speaker 1>select is more than likely a black gum. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>Nissa silvatica. It's one of the first trees in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods to lose its leaves, and usually by October it's

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<v Speaker 1>as barren as a ten year old dough. However, the

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<v Speaker 1>fruit of a black gum can be made into jelly

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<v Speaker 1>for us to eat, and animals from turkeys to songbirds.

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<v Speaker 1>The coons, bears and squirrels and a bunch of others

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<v Speaker 1>love them. Deer not so much. They'll feed on the

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<v Speaker 1>seedlings and the leaves up to a point. Then, as

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<v Speaker 1>the sample of matures the leaves lose they're attraction, the

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<v Speaker 1>deer bove on to something else, and the other animals

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned take advantage of what the deer crossed off

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<v Speaker 1>their menu. Also, the black gum tree is very susceptible

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<v Speaker 1>to heart rots, which can cause them to become hollow

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<v Speaker 1>over time, but with there wood being so strong, they

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<v Speaker 1>can still live for a long long time. This creates

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<v Speaker 1>shelter and dens for mammals, birds, tree dwelling critters, bats,

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<v Speaker 1>and spaces for honey bee hives. All of that in

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<v Speaker 1>one tree. That's just one of more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>different species of trees that are native to Arkansas. In

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana and Kansas, you're looking at about the same number. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you say to yourself, I hunt out west, and there

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<v Speaker 1>ain't many trees out there anyway, and thanks, you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>enough to make a different to any kind of plans

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to make when I hunt out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well guess what it should make a difference. Because New

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico and Arizona they sport over one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>different species. In Utah that's close to two hundred and fifty. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them ain't providing food for game. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember that shelter is just as important, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those three basic requirements for life. So

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<v Speaker 1>keep that in mind. Speaking of shelter, my friend MARAE. Means,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the Large Carnivore Program Coordinator for the Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>Game and Fish he told me once when they were

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<v Speaker 1>due and some bearden studies now bearding studies, when they

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<v Speaker 1>locate a breeding age seals that have been radio collared

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<v Speaker 1>and they hit them with the old razzle dazzle knockout

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<v Speaker 1>shot and get all the biological data they can muster

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<v Speaker 1>from her in any cubs she may have betta and

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<v Speaker 1>I went on one this past March, and man, what

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<v Speaker 1>an experience it was. Anyway, Myron and his merry band

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<v Speaker 1>of biologists, veterinarians, and technicians tracked a collared sound down

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<v Speaker 1>in South Arkansas, where it's common for mama bears to

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<v Speaker 1>use tree cavities to den in since the areas are

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<v Speaker 1>prone to flood. I guess this old gal was prepping

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<v Speaker 1>for the big one, because Myron said she was located

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<v Speaker 1>over eighty feet high in a huge bald cypress tree.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tax odium to stitch them for you folks keeping score,

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<v Speaker 1>and just some more gibbers for those that ain't. But

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<v Speaker 1>bears are funny creatures and I dig them. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't speak much about the trees out west, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about those I find here. Orcus alba, the

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<v Speaker 1>white oak Man. It's a blessing and a curse all

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<v Speaker 1>rolled up in one. Now. How could something that produces

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<v Speaker 1>nature's best acorn, preferred by animals and humans alike be

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<v Speaker 1>a curse. Wait a minute, did I say humans? I

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<v Speaker 1>sure did. I mentioned the Caddo Indians earlier. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just one tribe of Native Americans that were trading deerskins

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<v Speaker 1>and others such plunder to the Sodo and his crew

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<v Speaker 1>while towding a lunch bucket full of acorn based groceries

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<v Speaker 1>to the meet and greet. My friend Rick Spicer is

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<v Speaker 1>a flint napping, acorn eating bushcraft teaching guru. If there

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<v Speaker 1>was such a thing as a human Swiss Army knife,

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<v Speaker 1>mine would have a Rick Spicer blade in it. Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>check out Rick's Instagram page at packrat Bushcraft and give

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<v Speaker 1>it a fallow. I'll share a link to it on

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<v Speaker 1>mine and post up his step by step method in

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<v Speaker 1>the recipe he uses to make cinnamon acorn bread Cinnamon

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<v Speaker 1>acren bread. Y'all know I'm gonna try tow, so you

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<v Speaker 1>might as well join me, all right. The Curse of

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<v Speaker 1>the White Oak Acorn is mainly to bear hunters hunting

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<v Speaker 1>over bait. I don't have the energy to fuss with

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<v Speaker 1>folks about baiting or not baiting. I ain't what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. Save it for another day and somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about is how white oak acorns can

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely ruin a baited bear hunt. Simply put, when they

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<v Speaker 1>start falling, a black bear will crawl over a mountain

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<v Speaker 1>of doughnuts to eat one acre. Your bait will die

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<v Speaker 1>deader than disco literally overnight. Knowing the trees in your

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<v Speaker 1>bear hunt area is crucial. If the acrons start falling early,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have to swap it up and change up

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<v Speaker 1>your tactics from standing hunting to more of a spot

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<v Speaker 1>and stalk. By knowing tree I D. Knowing your trees,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look for a stand of white oaks, check

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<v Speaker 1>for bear sign, focus your efforts where you're likely to

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<v Speaker 1>cross paths with the bear or the bears that have

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned your bait. Now, I know I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>bears and and white oaks, but that's only example. Your

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<v Speaker 1>target species could be focusing on the acorns of red oaks,

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<v Speaker 1>pinoaks for salmon fruit, or beech tree masts whatever. Late winter,

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<v Speaker 1>when the acorns are all but gone and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>frogs or crawfish or bugs around for coons to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go to areas where we know there are groups

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<v Speaker 1>of deciduous holly trees. That one's called alex decidua. Some

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<v Speaker 1>folks call it apossum haul or a winterberry tree. That's

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best name for it, because they'll have fruit

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<v Speaker 1>when everything else is gone, and when that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be treating in those spots on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of you may know that before I turned

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<v Speaker 1>to a life of fighting crime that I worked in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods managing timber. For those that didn't, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to work in the woods managing timber. Tree I d

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<v Speaker 1>was crucial and allowed me to do my job cruising timber,

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<v Speaker 1>which is taking a survey of the mertionable timber on

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<v Speaker 1>a particular property, either by measuring every tree on it

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<v Speaker 1>or through a measured sampling of designated intervals. Required me

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<v Speaker 1>to tally the different types of trees to estimate the

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<v Speaker 1>value of the timber on that land. You should be

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same now every time you hit the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for removing timber, but for removing whatever you're

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<v Speaker 1>chasing out there, or at least finding what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone I hunt with is always looking for sign, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the same. But maybe just as important as a

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<v Speaker 1>sign you're seeing is where it's located and what's around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they just passing through to get to an area

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<v Speaker 1>of food or shelter. The shelter doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a place where they sleep. Shelter can be described as

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<v Speaker 1>a secure place in which you know they breed or

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<v Speaker 1>they rest. How about a like a big oak flat

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<v Speaker 1>or a pine ridge where a gobbler has a strutting

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<v Speaker 1>zone or white tails bed during the middle of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you can substitute elk and deer or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you're after. All I'm saying is to observe the terrain,

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<v Speaker 1>what's growing there, the environment, the wind, everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>can file in the old noodle data bank for retrieval

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<v Speaker 1>when you run across it again, you know somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Being able to easily identify the trees and what uses

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<v Speaker 1>them will make your scouting quicker and more effective. When

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<v Speaker 1>all things are the same, it may be the difference

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<v Speaker 1>in setting up in a sweet gum grove or a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of white oaks. Now, I'll close out with this

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<v Speaker 1>story here that demonstrates the necessity of tree I d

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<v Speaker 1>Back in my timber management days, me and mister Leon

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<v Speaker 1>were marking timber to be cut and We're half a

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<v Speaker 1>mile from the truck when I found a forty pound

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<v Speaker 1>pine knot covered in dried gray mud. For those unfamiliar

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<v Speaker 1>with a pine knot, it's the rich heart or sapwood

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<v Speaker 1>of a pine tree. Some folks call a lighter fine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's used for killing and starting fires. And where I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up it was gold. Everyone that had a fireplace

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<v Speaker 1>picked it up all year long, regardless of where they were.

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<v Speaker 1>See a pine knot, pick up a pine knot and

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<v Speaker 1>told it home. It was common practice and basically the

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<v Speaker 1>law of the land. A man with a fireplace or

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<v Speaker 1>any reason to build a fire was judged by the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of pine knots that he had piled up at home.

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<v Speaker 1>This one was a monster, and it was all mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Leon had eyes like a hawk when it came

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<v Speaker 1>to find the pine knots, and it was like he

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<v Speaker 1>had a radar. He'd find them, and I'd wind up

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<v Speaker 1>being the one that towed them back to the truck

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<v Speaker 1>for him. After all, I was the youngster and the crew,

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<v Speaker 1>and I respected him for his age and his service

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<v Speaker 1>in World War Two. This day, it was hot, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'd been in the woods all day long. We were

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<v Speaker 1>still a half a mile walk through a sea of

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<v Speaker 1>briars from the truck. I'd taken the lead shot in

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<v Speaker 1>the asthmus with my compass and was breaking a trail

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<v Speaker 1>for both of us when I spied the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the mother of all pine knots poking up from a

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<v Speaker 1>patch of green briars. Mister Leon saw me pull it

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<v Speaker 1>up and throw it over my shoulder. We'd walked from

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<v Speaker 1>minute or two when he stopped whistling and said, what

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<v Speaker 1>you got there, son. Luckily he was behind me and

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see me rolling my eyes and making a face

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<v Speaker 1>at the dumbest question I was going to hear all day,

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<v Speaker 1>my pine knot? Oh? Is that right? With a hen sarcasm,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I believe it is, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>end that with old man, but I didn't. He started

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<v Speaker 1>back whistling, and we kept walking and fighting through the

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<v Speaker 1>briers and the heat toward the truck. Now, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you that pine knot was killing me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was swapping shoulders more than I was walking. It was

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred degrees in that thicket, and the only

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<v Speaker 1>air turning in there was when I was walking, swapping

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders with my prize or mister Leon's whistling. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to check, but I knew he'd pick it up and

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<v Speaker 1>told it about fifty yards before my conscience made me

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<v Speaker 1>take it away from him and told it for him anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Still a quarter from the truck, he stopped whistling again.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you really gonna tote that all the way out? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he think I couldn't do it? I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>As bad as I wanted to fling that pine knot

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<v Speaker 1>past his ear and almost miss him, I was bound

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<v Speaker 1>and determined to have it at the truck. When I

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<v Speaker 1>got there. The last one hundred yards was the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you. Rain would have had a problem hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the ground in there, it was so thick. But we

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<v Speaker 1>broke out of it right beside the truck, and I

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<v Speaker 1>immediately dropped that pine knot. He stopped whistling and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you run a good line back to the truck. Soh

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<v Speaker 1>nob he had to say that. Mister Leon wasn't very

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<v Speaker 1>complimentary to anyone about anything. His usual response to a

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<v Speaker 1>question or observation was usually negative. But I always tried

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<v Speaker 1>to look past that because of all that he'd been

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<v Speaker 1>through in the war. He was a genuine hero to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden I felt real bad about

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<v Speaker 1>the way I'd been thinking and acting. As we walked out,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he couldn't see it, he poured and handed

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<v Speaker 1>me the first drink from our water keg. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at him and said, mister Leon, do you want this

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<v Speaker 1>pine knot? He took a big long drink of water

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<v Speaker 1>and he filled his cup again. He drank it down.

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<v Speaker 1>He turned away from me and chunked it back over

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<v Speaker 1>his shoulder, hitting me dead in the chest with a

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<v Speaker 1>watered up paper cup, and said, that ain't no pine knot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big red oak. Lim turn it over and

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<v Speaker 1>look at the bark that was on the end you

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<v Speaker 1>had pointing towards me. He was whistling again when he

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<v Speaker 1>sat down in the cab of the truck. It pays

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<v Speaker 1>to know your trees. Thank y'all so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly appreciate you allowed me a little time to

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<v Speaker 1>run around in your head. Every week, I promised to

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<v Speaker 1>do my dead level best not step on anything import

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<v Speaker 1>This is Brent Reeves, sign it all. I'll be careful