WEBVTT - Episode 485 w/ Papoose 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.160 He is drinks chess, motherfucking podcast man. He's a legendary 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.400 Queens rapper. He ain't agree as your boy in O 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.479 r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Put up 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.200 his DJ e f N. Together they drink it up 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.560 with some of the biggest players you me and the 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:31.120 most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.880 drunk drinks chans mother Postcavery Days New Year. See listen, 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:44.040 It's time for drink champions. Drink up, motherfuck? Would it 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:45.879 good be? It should be? This is your boy n 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:47.600 A O N A A. What up is d J 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:54.720 E f N? This MILITEPA crazy World radio mix? Sure? Now, 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.760 I just listened to this brother album this morning. I 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:04.320 can't believe how great, how refreshing, how we're fine, how 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:10.280 much powerful it sounds. Sounds like like like him himself 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:13.120 belongs in the era of the nineties, but the music 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.119 that he made right now is right now. Like I'm 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.160 listening to this album, I'm like, Wow, this is an 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.039 album was an ep EP because it's seven songs. I 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.319 wanted to say thank you, but I wanted to let 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:29.840 you get it on ok so Yo. I'm listening and 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.560 I'm like, Yo, this is real hip hop. This is 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.399 really what we need. You know what I mean this? 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:40.400 This brother is a lyrical genius. He's a bar for ball. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.960 No one can fuck with him. He's a he's a legend, 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.839 and he came in through this game to a legend, 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:48.880 and we're gonna salute him. We won't give him his 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.680 flowers today because this year is something that we got 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.080 to talk about. Thank you. In case you don't know 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.880 who we're talking about, come up to one. The only 0:01:54.960 --> 0:02:01.400 motherfucker I appreciate at that bro. The album is like 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.480 that ship is that shit is something like I was like, 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.280 we were just sitting there like this, like I ain't 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.079 been like we ain't been quiet like this, and the 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:13.280 album come on, like right, So how did you make that? 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.320 I took my time, man, you know what I'm saying, 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.160 a lot of time, you know, I'm more trying to 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.400 be consistent, but with this one, me and my brother 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.800 Sean too, Man, I really took my time. I probably 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.440 was working on it, no bullshit for like a year 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.400 and a half, and not because it took that long, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.000 but I wanted to take baby steps, you know what 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.160 I'm saying, And what I like about it is. Honestly, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.440 I say that this project is the best one of 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.440 my projects ever was ever received by the people. Right. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.480 Sometimes when you created, you see a certain way and 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.680 then when you put it out, they'd be like, huh right, 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.960 the envision did they didn't get together it for us. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.520 But this ship, like it really resonated with the people. Man, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:47.519 you know what I mean? So here you say that 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.799 men not okay. So, so now let me ask you 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.480 that question again. Is this considered that EP or this 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.880 It's definitely seven songs because it's sure, it's five, it's 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.079 five and a bonus, you know. Okay, So I would 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.120 say it's an EP slash short film though, Okay, So 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.880 I wanted to do something that was never done before. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:06.920 You know what I mean when I when I did 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.640 it like that? Okay, damn, I'm doing a short film too, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.000 So I want you to. But you know what, Let's 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.240 let's let's get it out the way right now. Right 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.800 let's go. Let's let's break down each song. I'm I'm 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.440 gonna ask you and let's break it. Let's break it down. Okay. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.240 First of what's the name of the album. The name 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.440 of the album is bars On Wheels, Bars on Wheel 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:31.800 A journey to save hip hop. Now listen, listen to 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.480 me before we get into this. If you're a person 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.440 that love, here's what's good about this. It's not just bars. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.640 You pick the right fucking beasts. Like I'm listening to 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.280 this ship and no bullshit, I'm not trying to glaze you, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.960 but no bullshit. I've listened to the beats and I 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.080 was like, yo, Pap could have probably picked beats for 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:54.280 me and ma beat back. Then that's how all these 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.160 beats sounding. We're going with the lyrics, but let's go 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:03.240 Okay for Speed, Yes, need for Speed is the opening track, 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.200 you know what I mean. So you got to remember 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.560 the audio is very consistent with the visual. So in 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.680 the opening scene, you see me driving in the Rose 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.880 Royce and you know, I mean, of course, my producers 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.359 in the back seat. So I'm bringing back that that 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.360 I want to say, I'm bringing it. I want to 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:19.840 say I'm bringing back because you know a lot of 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.760 people don't do it here and there, but artists and 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.360 producer like really in the studio together, really working together, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.880 really getting that chemistry. So you see my brother Sean 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.680 two in the back seat, and I mean he doing 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.279 the beat and yes, okay in the visual individual to 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:41.560 Need for Speed were in the Rose Royce and were 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.840 in the double lof eventually the police pull us over. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.200 You know what I'm saying. So it's basically self explanatory. Man. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.200 You know, if you if you follow me on Instagram 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.960 over the years, you always see me wrapping in the car. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.400 And then you got certain people going to comments you 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.520 know how it is. They're like, Okay, he's spend five, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.520 but where he's going? You know what I'm saying. So 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.360 I'm want to I'm on the journey to save hip hop. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.400 So that's what That's how this project was birth. So 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.080 Need for Speed is just to open the scene to 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.479 that of me me driving and I got the need 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.880 for Speed because you know, nowadays it's just the way 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.960 hip hop is going. You know, I don't. I don't 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.320 really like it, damn. So there is some good ship 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.320 in hip hop. Absolutely, we got who we got? Do 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.680 we name people or we can move on? We can't. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.359 We got some good people. What a lot of people. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:24.800 It's not just artists either, man. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.520 Remember, I think when we have these conversations about hip hop, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.039 we just talk about just the MC's or the rappers, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.600 and there's so many different facets and elements to hip 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:33.880 hop that we forget everything else. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:35.479 Hip hop is not just talking. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.440 I'm saying like there's the graffiti artists, the DJs, the breakdances, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.120 like there's a lot of people that go unmentioned when we. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:43.120 Have these conversations. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.120 Hip hop is in a good place or a bad place, right, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:47.600 you know what I'm saying, right, of. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.080 Course, Well it's five elements, you know. I mean, case Ling 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.200 told us that, right, So it's not just wrap one 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.279 hundred percent right about that. But that's why I always 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.040 also wanted to incorporate my producer, you know what I'm saying, 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.840 equally as incorporated myself being rock. Yeah he did through 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.160 the whole time, through the whole visual. You see him 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.200 there with me, you know what I mean. Okay, So 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.479 now so the Big Three, Yes, the second joint, we 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.400 get pulled over by the police. You know what I'm saying. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.160 So the Big Three another track that self explained it 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.240 to me. You know what I mean? You got they 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:16.720 say that the Big Three? Who's the Big Three? And 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:23.960 guin these guys pause? Yeah, well okay, okay, Well yeah, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:25.280 it's a line in there where I say, you know, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:31.080 it's Kevin Garnet, ray Allen and who else? Poor Pierce, 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.279 And then it was I believe they even Lebron and 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.960 them right Lebron, Wade and Bosh and Bosh and so 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.719 it's a lot of it right well. And it's a 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.479 line in there where I say, I respect the Big Three, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.520 but they're like kids to me. I've been nicer to 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.640 know these niggas since Big was three. So that's that's 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.160 the line right there. You know what I'm saying, Like 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.320 it kind of speaks for itself, the Big Three, you 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.320 know what I mean? Right right there? Boom And then 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:55.800 you saying that, you say in the Big Three, you 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.360 said you can't return once you cross burn the bridge? Absolutely, man, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.279 it's no coming back that Yeah. A lot of times, man, 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.840 you know, people cross you and you know, they think 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.880 the grass is greener and they get over there and 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.440 it is greener because it's fake, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:16.280 that's right aft. And when when they realized that, then 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.840 they try to come back, they try to bust that. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.280 You turn and it's like, nah, okay, you know what 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.360 I mean. So that's what that's what that's about but 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.800 the entire project. If you pay attention, it's me on 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.280 the journey to save hip Hop. So when I get 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.640 pulled over, the police come to the car, Hey, you know, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.080 why are you pulling me over for driving while black? 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.880 He goes on, I tell him about you. I got 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.520 an injured man in the back seat. That's hip Hop. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.160 So I'm taking hip Hop to the hospital. You know 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:44.160 what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got So this 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.360 is the concept. You know, I get pulled over. I'm 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:48.840 on my way to take hip Hop to the to 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.200 the hospital because it's injured. He pulled me over, he 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:53.480 locked me up, and now you see me in the 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.760 cop car. That's the second track. The third track, the 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.880 paramedics come transport hip Hop to the hospital. I'm driving 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:02.760 a paramedic truck. You know what I'm saying As I'm 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.520 driving the paramedic truck. Eventually we go to the to 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.000 the robbery scene where in the process we're trying to 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.840 get money to finance our rap careers. So we ended up, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.239 you know, hijacking the Brinks truck. It's a short film. 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.000 Now you see me driving the Brinks truck doing that track. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.360 The next track is the hearts hip hop passed away? 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.320 Couldn't save it? You know what I'm saying, which is 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.640 a fetanold hold one hold on, You're going through fast 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.720 because fronting off. Yes, as soon as I heard that, 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.319 I immediately got the feeling of I gave you power 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.719 like you know that. You know what I'm saying. This 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:43.319 is a metaphors right right Boa, How did you come 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.400 up with that? A lot of if you look at 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.440 at our culture, men, a lot of the young artists 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.640 and just a lot of the younger generation, they losing 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.040 their lives to feed, you know what I'm saying. So 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.280 I feel like all of these different things contributed to 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.679 the demise of hip hop as well, but also the 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.160 demise of our people and just us as a people. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.839 You know what I'm saying. So if you listen to 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.800 the song, I named a couple of people, a couple 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.480 of young artists and a couple of individuals, Mat Miller, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.679 you know who loft their lives to fetanoel Damn. I 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.600 can't remember who else I did. I did Mac Miller, 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.200 I did my God well, Coolio Coolio, I did mac Miller, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.280 I did Coolio, I did that the actor I can't 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.360 remember his name right now. I broke down his story 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.679 as well, But you got to listen to it, man, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.080 And I'm just breaking down how you know a lot 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.319 of people losing their lives to fetanol, how dangerous and 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.240 how serious that ship is. Man. Now you said something 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.880 in the song that you said even and we find 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.079 and all could be in there. Oh yeah, but I 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.839 thought findon was the white ship. Man. It comes to it. 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:43.439 They putting it, They're putting it in a lot of 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.599 different things, and we don't know it. That's why you 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.959 gotta be careful. Like the red number die. You know 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.959 that the ship food. Yeah, man, it's worse, way worse, 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.480 twenty many times worse than that. And the ship is 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.240 dangerous and a lot of people don't know they slipping 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.120 it in there. Next thing, you know, you know what 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.440 I mean, You got a bet situation, all right, and some. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.880 People doing it on purpose too, all right, they actually 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.040 do fending off all right, exactly crazy, which is real crazy, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:08.679 playing with your life. So that track is about that 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.199 man just creating a weirdness about you know, how fat 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.280 noise deshowing a lot of lives. Okay, Now the next 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.559 one I said, what I said, yeah, definitely, man, another 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.320 joint man, self explanatory, just breaking down. Man, I'm an executive, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.559 back to back business moves consecutive positive by everything you 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.200 doing is negative. My residence is on the throne where 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.600 all the legends live. Is evident that you reside where 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.079 all the peasants live. Never give to the ungrateful what 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.400 is imperative. Don't appreciate it because they don't got no 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.240 respect to give. Some say family ain't everything, but yes 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.080 it is. The lesson is it don't make us family 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:41.760 just because we relatives. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:49.400 On the noise. Man, Okay, chill back, no chill button. Man. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.480 You know anybody who know me? Man, I've been doing 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.559 this for a long time. But when they put the 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.439 lights on me, and they shine that light on me, 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.040 I said black love. What I'm saying, I come from 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.600 the street. But when when when he really paid attention 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.280 to me? I represented black love, man, which is black empowerment, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.640 which is everything about us as people. But once you 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.679 cross that line, you get a different version of me. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.040 And I don't got no chill, but I'm gonna go in. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.800 So so that's what that song is about. What I'm saying, 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.839 it's about getting pushed that limit. Now now I don't 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:23.640 got no chill button. Okay Green count Green, we getting 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.000 no No, I was spoken at the Okay count Green, 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.360 we getting money. Man, it's the better day. Man. We 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.679 eat and we're doing good out here. You know what 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.520 I'm saying. Shout the shout to Win Records, man, shout 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.200 to my Win Records family. Man, we're getting a lot 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:39.560 of money. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:39.760 Man. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.319 Now that's on Tom call. No okay, no, so so 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.720 explain that before we cant Green. Yeah, well there are 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.320 you still yeah? No, no, no more okay, no son 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.839 doing moved on? Okay, I Win Records, Win Records, Yes, 0:11:55.480 --> 0:12:00.360 w w Y yes, yes, like the hotel and Vegas. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.760 Well he might he might come at you. No he can't. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.120 He can't. Man. We we we've been incorporated a long time. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.679 When I see that, I can see that now my 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.120 Win Records family. Man, we're doing a lot of big things. Man. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.640 We do a lot of concerts. A lot of the 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.280 concerts you see. You might not know what it's us. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:18.760 All right, Okay, you know what I mean. We did 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.679 Legis at the West Uh. We did some concert down 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.160 in Hawaii. We had the Mally's and a bunch of 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.040 people down there too, where you are. Africa. We did 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.400 we did some tours down in Africa and we're doing 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.920 a lot of big things. We just did the big 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.839 deal with my lady, Clarisa Shills with teams. That was 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.880 the leading promotions. You know what I'm saying. She got 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.480 that eight million dollar deal. So I was able to 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.959 make that happen. Man, just let you know. I'm just 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.800 letting you know. You know what I mean. I see 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.920 our guest hosts came in the building. He gonna be 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:58.719 our guest hosts. Grab yeah, grab cheer Yeah yeah. How's 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:05.640 you got the mic? Then that's crazy over there. That's 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:15.800 what's up man already still can't you well over there? 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:21.680 Ye yeah, yeah, that's about to say that. Given extra, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.240 let's do what you know. You're good. I'm telling man's 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.800 Brian and my huh yeah, man, my man over here 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:36.880 a mother Connecticut. You called me last you can make 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.800 it to drinks doing that. I'm doing the bird help me, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.360 he said. See that's how you know my you know, 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:51.000 we started at one. Didn't get in there. What I 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.559 told me was said, yo, Pap Pop coming through. I said, no, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:59.520 I'm I'm jumping on the bird on the So all right, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.480 so I I just want to reiterate that. So you 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.719 dropped this project on your own label. I dropped it 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.319 on Win Records, but I'm actually an executive at Win Records. Okay, now, 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.040 is that so Win has distribution as well? Is it 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.439 a one stop shop or they have no no empire? No, no, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.120 no empire. We actually distributed it's Win Records distributed through 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.960 United Masters. Okay, I'm over there. Yeah, that's his that's 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.600 his movement. Yeah, okay, So we actually distributed this project 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.120 over there, and we wanted to do it like that 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:30.880 because we wanted to take a very unique approach. Like 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.000 I said, it's a short fum. It's not just about 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.120 the EP. I mean, music is my passion, but I 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.600 just wanted to really give them a visual of myself 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.000 on the journey to save hip hop. Okay, now, it's 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.600 one of my favorite questions. You know what I'm going 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:52.640 you know, one of my favorite questions the major Look, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.200 you got a chance to do both and you was 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.640 on Job Records with that big budget. That's the fact. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.720 I remember that was the biggest movement in the hip hop, 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.840 but it in the room where it was the truth like, 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.320 you know what I'm saying. I believe Buster was a 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.480 part of that. Yeah, Yeah, Buster was locked in with Yeah, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:12.080 we all came together. Chris Lighty, Chris Lighty violated. Obviously, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.880 you got a chance to deal with the majors. You 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.080 got a chance to deal with the Independence. I'm not 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:19.680 gonna lead the witness. I'm gonna tell you what I 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:26.840 what I but what do you prefer? Independent? I know 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.560 I just wanted to change. Oh no, I still I 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.320 still stick to it, you know what I'm saying. Like 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:37.080 the majors, you know, I like the major different type 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:41.360 of major doesn't even exist exist no more. You was 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:55.960 happy with them from the era the major Buster romes, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.560 he said around he wait for a distributive deal, like 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.240 even though he's super indipend it right now, like he's like, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.720 we're scarred, man, Like you know what I mean, Like 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.160 they just don't want to set want to go back 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:12.880 to the Like, man, I think I think if Independent 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.440 is done right, you know what I'm saying, it could 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.200 feel like like a major. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.400 What made me, you know what made me really respect 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.080 the independent game when I started with Tech Now, that's 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:30.400 when I seen the kind of bread they made. They 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.600 killing that. So hold on you since silly prefer independence, 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.880 tell me about because you got first of all, you 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.200 got freedom. You don't got nobody sitting in the office. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.320 You got to bring the music. Could you imagine me 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.840 bringing balls on wheels to the office. We need a 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:48.760 radio record. They would they would have turned me around 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.520 like you got you got creative control, You got your 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:55.400 own freedom. And you know old boy, yeah, man, oh boy, 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.000 they just got he was you know they was, they 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.960 were doing us cool. You was a boy, he Bro, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:08.080 he Bro, I want to get straight into the wing 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:15.280 like damn being packed some drinks yea at the same time. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.639 And so we both we knew what it was like 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.040 during that erar to mixtapeund now she was not making 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.000 me naive right now, because I'm gonna be honest with you, 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:30.000 I have never suffered the wrath of he Bro like 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.520 I have never if there was a wrap, I'm not. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.720 I'm not accusing him of something. You know what I'm saying. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:43.960 You haven't come on, come on work, But I swear 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.600 to God, so like hearing you say that just now, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:52.920 you made a face. I hate what happened. I was 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:53.960 gonna yeah, yeah, I seen your. 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:55.679 Right. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.520 At the point, I was like, I'm killing this motherfucker 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:03.440 like got I wasn't it was that bad because you 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.520 gotta look at it like this, right when you work 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.119 something something your whole life. I've been rappings how ten 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.359 years old, working my whole life, not even really to 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.480 get a deal at first. But then once I was like, damn, 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.920 I'm good at this shit. I started imprisoning my whole bed. 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.360 Stay off of the ship. I'm in there rapping this time. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:19.960 I'm getting through my time. So I'm like damn, I 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.000 thinking I'm good enough to really make something happen. I 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.359 come home. I'm bumping in the pack in front of 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.600 High ninety seven. We're like you, I was here first 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.199 outside case later come that wait for anybody to give up. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.280 I was talking to two tone. He's like, yo, remember 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.040 you sold me your CD in Crown Heights and ship 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:39.560 you came up and you came here and sow men 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.639 the CDs. So me and me and son had the 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:43.720 same ground. So we try and try and work on 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.119 our ass to get a deal. We finally get here 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.280 and the nigga could just come sweep all that shit 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.440 from under the ruck because he's in the position of power. 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.640 I was on Atlantic. They are radio driven label. If 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.480 you banned from the radio, they not gonna put a penny. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.000 Once the nigga bamed me, they said, we're not investing 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.639 another cent. That's crazy. And me and Ebro was friends. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.159 I'm calling this nigga like, please, man, this is my 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.560 shot or my whole life to get here. I got 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.199 a j Z record in it can We're gonna make 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.040 the record look like it's blowing up so bad Jay 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.960 jumped on. We had the whole rollout, just Blade saying 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.040 when that nigga bamed me, just stopped picking up the 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.119 phole nigger niggas crash out and they ready thought I 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.159 was a crash out already, so it made him look like, Oh, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.080 this niggas just a fuck up. We ain't gonna invest 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.080 no money in them. I'm like, yo, e bro, But 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.720 nobody got hurt, nobody got shot, nobody, no police came. 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.080 Why the fuck would you ban me for right? Yeah, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:38.840 nigga says, it's my policy. My g that's crazy. Now, 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:40.840 how about you. My kids saved that nigga life. Now, 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.160 did you have as a discrepancy with Hebro. Listen, man, 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.760 my thing is this man, It's no secret that it 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.080 was real challenging getting music played, whether you hot or not. 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.399 I mean I'm talking like you could be on fire, 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.639 and getting records played was just like some fuck. We 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.080 always going on like it's it's videos to me up 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.479 there telling he Bro like, Yo, you know, when I'm 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.800 in the South, I hit South artists right, and I'm 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.520 on the West, I hear West artists when I come 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.399 to New York. You know what I'm saying, gumbo, So 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.320 so you know a lot to you. I've been hearing 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.160 Miami step it up. But ahead, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.359 but nah, I mean definitely, I don't think it should 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.040 have been like that. I do think New York City 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:21.520 would have been in a better place if it was, 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.359 you know, if we was letting the people dictated instead 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.879 of the politics dictate. Who you know, who gets that 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:29.520 fish shot? Like like Sagon was saying, you know what 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:33.360 I'm saying, get a moment. At one point, we were 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.879 so being denied I can't say it was Ebos for it, 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.160 but we were so being denied New York getting played 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.159 on New York stations that New York artists started to 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.480 try to sound that's what happened to the South. They 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.200 tried to start to act like what's happening. You agree 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.359 with that? Yeah, I agree with that. You agree. And 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.600 it's funny because Rosenberg, they just Rosenberg is posted something. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.680 He's saying, Oh, ween't fuck up New York hip hop 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.760 and fucked up when niggas start trying to copycat, trying 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:04.840 to he said that one motherfuckers trying to sound like 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.359 the South and started trying to. I'm like, because dudes 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.240 felt like they had to make them kind of records 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.320 to get on the radio. So the dudes started feeling like, damn, oh, 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.399 they're playing a bunch of ship, they playing Nelly, they 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.920 playing all these these records that not from our region. 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.600 So maybe we got to switch our little drawl and 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.400 our ship to start doing collaborations with dudes from out 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.200 because we felt like that's what we needed to do 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.960 get on the radio. Because that's the I think. I think. 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.800 I think they was playing it for so long that 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.879 when a younger generation came up, that's only her now. 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.119 That's what drill is, so they't have a chance to 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.359 get inspired by you know what I'm saying, what does 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.520 that What is it called drill? That's one I think 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:42.520 that's one of the styles on them. So that's what 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.320 it's kind of like New York trap. 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:48.159 Yeah, like but but there's also the side of the 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.879 pendulum swinging the whole way the other way, because the 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.119 South and other regions felt they couldn't penetrate in New 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.119 York at all, So it felt like it went all 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:56.040 the way to the other side. 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.080 You know what you mean when you say couldn't couldn't 0:21:58.080 --> 0:21:59.280 I mean, I don't want to use that word. You 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:05.480 other regions. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.119 The mecca of everything hip hop industry and culturally was 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:10.520 New York. 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:12.880 Has always been New York from the birth to when 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.760 you'll started hip hop. So what I'm saying so I 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.240 felt like, Bro, this is I'm gonna be honest and 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.720 everybody know, I just debate. Let's go. Everybody know I 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.680 love every every city, every state. I traveled freely, you 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.480 know what I'm saying. But and not all places, but 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:28.720 some places they kind of mad at us because we 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:45.240 created hip hop. No, but nobody part of it. I 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.840 always say, I don't know, because he's created hip hop. 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:49.960 That's a different man. That's probably the reason why. But 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.159 you didn't let me. Let me just finish right, And 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.280 I want to tell y'all, it's not our fault. 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:55.480 Bro. 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.600 Like niggas is like mad at New York niggas. It's 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.240 not like you know what I'm saying. And because they 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:06.720 mad what the executives digit them. I think they kind 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.680 of mad because at one point of time, since hip 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.200 hop started in New York City, and it's a beautiful 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.479 thing that everybody do it everywhere now, but at one 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:16.240 point in time, they had to look to the city 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.879 for hip hop, they had to look and they kind 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.200 of felt like they were taking a back seat. I 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.280 don't really know. Let me rebuttal to that, I think 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:23.560 I don't. I don't think that's the case. 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.639 I don't think people were mad because it started in 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.280 New York because if you think about it, everybody that 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.520 was hip hop from everywhere they went on a pilgrimage 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:32.000 to New York. 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:34.440 We all would go to New York. As a DJ, 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:35.800 I would go drive. 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:37.800 At sixteen drive all the way up to the East Coast, 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.439 all the way to get to New York to buy records. 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.240 I saw people from all different states and cities doing that. 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:43.560 I don't think that was the case. 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.480 What it is that the industry, a lot of the 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.040 industry was there because that's where it started. So the 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.080 culture in the industry was there, so in order to 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.840 get deals, to get signed, you had to go through there. 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:54.680 So a lot of the A and R. 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:56.680 I would full them, No, it's not your it's not 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:58.800 your fault, always told them it's if there was an. 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:00.480 Artist for so why do they hate because of that? 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:08.040 A long time? Give me example of hate my nigga, 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.600 my nigga, pirst of all all that timberling jokes. It 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:22.000 is hate my niggat comedy. But I'm just saying it's 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.400 hate disguise that's coming. You know. He had to hate 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:24.960 the man. 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.119 People clowning on the South and because it's nobody was 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.000 clowning listen, calling people country it was happening. 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:42.360 I don't like that, nah, bro, I'm telling you man, 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.040 niggas is mad because of the pop started them. I 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.600 don't think tell you man, I don't think that's telling you. 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.040 It was always like a disconnect with down South from 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.959 New Yorkers. Because I seen the dude the other day. 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.000 He was like young Joe was better than rock kim 0:24:55.080 --> 0:25:00.240 I said this nigga smoke like I'm like, yo, he's smoke. Okay. 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.359 I like the guy. He's better, man better. But by 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.159 the way you comparing apples the arms. Even back then, 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.560 back in the day, there was a disconnecting. But aside 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:11.920 from music, like when we used to come down, like 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.320 we all have family in the South, Black family in 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.359 the South. So when we would come down here we 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.080 was young. They look at us like we was from 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.200 the future type ship. You know what I'm saying, Like, yah, 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.960 that's another thing to yo, yo, what the is those 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.639 niagas or what's the new music or because not to 0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.240 say they were slow with you know, New York is 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.040 New York City, city in the world everything. So back then, 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.760 I think once they got on once they once once, 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.600 once the South started rocking, they was like, yah, niggas 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:44.880 now he said the South to say everywhere everywhere people 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:49.840 from the ship with the Wests literally said when I 0:25:50.840 --> 0:26:01.200 say the niggas like yeah, they't make it all better. Yeah, 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.120 Camp did the interview your New York niggas go everywhere 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.600 they think they they think they whatever the he said, 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.560 niggas running with that ship. We should have never said 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:13.120 that boy, like, come on, man, they gotta stop hating 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.199 this man, let us live. Man. Yeah, man, you know, listen, bro, 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.600 we can't we can't say it. We just said it ourselves, right. 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:20.680 A lot of the artists that was coming up would 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.320 sounded like they was from where out of New York 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:26.639 right right, So we love the South, bro, we embrace y'all. Man, 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.639 but don't be mad at us because hip hop started, 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.160 you know, not for real. So like, I don't agree 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.200 with that. We love, we love you. Just see like 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.520 I like future music, and I'm saying I like t 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:37.600 I I bump a lot of South audists. You know, 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.800 I'm saying, like I funk with their music. So again, 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:41.800 it goes back in reverse. 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.720 If you listen to a lot of the artists in 0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.239 the late eighties early nineties from anywhere else, they were 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:47.320 all trying to sound like New York art. 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.040 Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you like this right now, 0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.520 the artist right now was well, listen to your project though. 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:54.920 You see how I said, this is a breath of 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.920 fresh air. This so it's lyricol the beast is doing it. 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.680 A lot of people they it's so fucked up in 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.439 the music business, right now I see people frowning upon lyricism. 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:09.560 They're like, oh, like what They're like, Yo, the facill 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.879 he's running like I like, and I'm like, yo, we 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.800 fucked up? Man, Like like when they when they justing 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:22.000 lyrical and people ain't stepping up because when you saw 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.399 this in Liverpool, that shit has no geographic to it. 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.840 Well everybody artists everywhere, right, I tell you what what 0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.280 I think, man. I think like when when sayon going 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.320 to poost is on top poles, Like what I mean, bro, 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.639 A lot of niggas ain't gonna have jumps because they 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.440 need the ball to be low. They needed not to 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:42.399 be teaching through the music, not to have concepts, not 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.359 to have lyricism. Like you said, I was reading the 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.439 fake pretend like they hating on the livers. But niggas 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.720 consume music different because that NAS album right now, NAS 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.640 and Primo album. I'm like just saying the album you're 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.000 gonna get on one listen. Niggas sit down listening to 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.240 some ship one time like oh it's trash or it's 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.919 a classic, or they have music work. Man, you got 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:02.679 to sit there and digest that ship. I ain't up 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.160 from my first listen I was like, I don't know, man. 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:07.480 Then I went back. I said, nah, this is nas 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.240 in Primo. Maybe I'm missing something. I listened again. By 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.080 the fourth listen, I was like, this might be one 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:19.760 of my tops like this. That's why I'm like, we 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.880 don't we consume music different than these? They first time 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:25.959 mother fuckers know the words of the whole song. We're 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.040 here in it once because it's so simple. It's a 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.200 it's a catchphrase or huck something simple, something jingle to 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.920 catch on to. Niggas had to push that pin. Back 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:35.520 in the day, you had to go push them. Nigga 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.040 had to be like ooh ah when you rap. 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.440 You guys, don't think that the labels had a hand 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.600 in dumb and down the music, because of course now 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.400 you have less talented artists that you could cycle out whenever. 0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.240 We get the ring the ring tone ship took us 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:51.680 to put us oute of this, I would say, But 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.400 I would say it was artists following artists. Like if 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:58.560 an artist see that, I mean, how many different versions 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:02.400 of a record you would hear like, oh okay, utter something, 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.400 another record would sound just like it, and another label 0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:12.880 that was illegal back just the hip hops, When did 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.800 that become cool though. Yeah, but you know what it 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.240 is when uh and I probably had something to do 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.720 with this, like when you have people like Paral like 0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.280 giving me like super Doug and then oh no, it 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.640 didn't sound the same, but you could tell that was 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:30.920 the same producers in that area that I think mister 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:32.360 Cool had a record, and then j Z had a 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.560 regular sounding just like it that time, you know what 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.720 I'm saying. So that's like back in the day. Remember 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:46.720 I got the power Ship Niggas the same concepts though 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:55.000 even came and stepping, and they still didn't sound like 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.440 each other. And then that's one thing about back then, 0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.360 anybody sounded different. Like eighties, you have to come with 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.880 your own style. Do you think you belong in the nineties, 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.320 Like you know, if you could pick yourself where like 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.600 let me replace my music, what era, what era? Where ever? 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.040 Would you pick? Oh yeah, I would have definitely came 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.880 and yeah, yeah, I was. It seemed more authentic, you 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.080 know what I'm saying. It was cool, substance was there. 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.840 Everything was did I like y'all just having mad fun? 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.480 We checked the wein checked the budget. If we're going 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.240 you have to be with you, right It was. It 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.920 was dope crazy. I thought about this the other day, 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:37.440 and ship the dmxans is just check into a hotel 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.800 room and just smoke a bobie. You know, you know 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.120 I fouled that ship is now smoke a cigarette DM 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:47.560 Mexicans crazy. But you gotta you gotta actual record dedicated 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.080 to d MX. Yeah I did. What made you do that? Man? 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.040 I met x a couple of times. Man, you know, 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.280 I mean, solid individual, and it was just a sad situation. Man. 0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:57.920 So I honestly, I just want to distribute him and 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.960 show them some love. Okay, that's what you didn't include 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.040 him in the fence and all record? No, I didn't, Okay, 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:04.680 I didn't. I didn't even know that that's what happened 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.520 to him. I don't know neither I was fishing right 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.800 now or not. I didn't put him in there now. 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:14.320 But yeah, recipes to XO. So let's let's describe your 0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:18.920 relationship with case Slay. Yeah. I think I believe I 0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:20.200 spoke to you the other day, and I want to 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.800 get into this too. I believe you said you and 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.240 Bust have never had an argument. No, we didn't, And 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.640 I don't know if you said you and Kate had 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.600 an argument. Of course, I used to argue all the time. 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.959 Before we get into the argument's let's talk about the beginning. 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:43.280 How did you meet? Oh yeah, it's a long story, man. 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.640 All I say is I was in a space of 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.640 my life at that particular time. It wasn't really a 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.120 good space, and I knew that I had to make 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.120 a decision if I wanted to do music, which is 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.880 something positive, or go to negative route, and I just 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:00.480 would have been sucked up, you know what I'm saying. 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.000 And I decided. And at that time, you wasn't getting 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.000 in the game. If you wasn't on Rockefeller, Murder Inc. 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.440 Or rough Rider, you just wasn't coming in. That's all 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.320 you heard. But one day I was listening to the 0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.160 radio and I heard this this dude on the radio 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.520 and he was playing new artists on the radio. I 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.760 couldn't believe it when he's saying street slocking, Yeah, he 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.600 was just doing this ship and I'm like, oh shit, 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.080 this nigga. Did he just play somebody outside of one 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.680 of those entities I just named. So I'm like, yo, 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:27.160 I got to meet this dude. So I always kept 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.240 that in the back of my mind and you know, 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:30.640 I was in the street at the time. I found 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.880 myself in a bad situation, and I said, Yo, when 0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:35.560 I get out of this situation, I'm going to meet 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.880 that dude. You know what I'm saying. I looked up 0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:39.600 at the address HIG ninety seven, and I went up 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.200 there and waited for him outside the radar. Yeah, I 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:47.000 went up to the did I recorded a CD? Bro? 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.239 I recorded, I think it was seven tracks. I had 0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:51.560 a mic in one hand and a gun in the 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.720 other hand, and I recorded. I used to sell it 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.120 out my trunk. But I went to the radio and 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.120 I just waited for slave Bro. I looked at what 0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.000 time he came out, you know, I mean, I think 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.040 I probably looked him up in the fellow page. You 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.120 had a CD in one hand and a gun on 0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:10.120 the on the cover. Oh, I think you take the 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:14.720 CD or you get what you want. The name of 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.280 the CD was in war. So I recorded, you know 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:18.920 what I'm saying myself the whole ship. And I went 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.200 up there and I waited for him, and Slake came out. 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:22.720 You know what I'm saying. You know, how was to 0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.120 me the fly ship and I gave him the city. 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.640 He was all right, kept moving Win in the building. 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:29.840 So I went back to the hook like you was 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.480 going down. I'm about to be on the radio. I'm 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.920 listening to everybody on the on the sidewalk. We got 0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.120 the system up and he ain't play the ship. Wow. 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:39.920 I'm like, damn, this is this is the next day 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.760 after you gave him the CD. No, no, no, remember 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.040 Slay come on twelve midnight. Okay, he's going in the radio. 0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.120 I think he's like, Yo, this nigga is going to 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.920 play my song. Now we pull over, were listening. Oh 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.640 it's two hours. He was going back then, so he 0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.360 didn't play. I said, damn, I'm gonna go back next 0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.240 week and do it again. I come back next week, 0:33:59.480 --> 0:33:59.960 same ship. 0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:00.760 Yo. 0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.720 Here you go, bropun, here you go. Man. My name 0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:03.400 is Pat Postman. 0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:03.640 He go. 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.600 He's like, all right, you know Slay serious, dude, man, 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.520 he just kept it moving. I did it again. I 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.120 listened again. He ain't play the shit again. I said, damn, man, 0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.600 next time this nigga. I get this nigga a CD. 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.719 I'm not gonna leave. I'm a wait. So when he 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.200 come out, you wanna to explain to me why ain't 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.359 playing my ship? Right? So I did that. I gave 0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.880 him the joint. I'm listening. It's like it's like one 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.759 o'clock right. He still ain't played, but he like, yo, 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:31.279 one hundred two two three ninety seven ninety seven number 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.759 two Dad. I'm like, yo, I'm sitting in the car 0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.560 like your fuck that. I'm gonna call up. I calls 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.960 up and as soon as he heard my voice, he 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:41.600 knew it was me. I was like, yo, man, why 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.360 do you play that? Nigga starts spashing over me on 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.239 the radio. We're going matter of fact, it's not on 0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.279 the radio. Were going back and forth. It's on the 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.640 hot line. What's on the hot line? But he ain't 0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.279 even know. He thought he was shipping on me. But 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.480 he didn't even know. He made my day because while 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.880 we're arguing, he came out of commercial and the argument 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.000 filed onto the end waves. So I hear this ship. 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:08.560 I'm in the car. I'm like, oh or somehow, So 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.400 he begs the joint. He's like, yo, everybody can't be 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.640 a rapper. Some people got to be a fire man. 0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.120 And he going in on him to retire. He's spash. 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.680 I ain't even get started yet. He like he's pasting 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.480 on the edge. So I'm like, damn, this nigga just violated. 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.479 When this nigga come down, it's lit. So I'm waiting 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.840 in the middle street and ship he come down. He 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.880 see me. I see him walking dead towards each other. 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.120 As soon as we get like face to face, the 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.040 nigga that was with him came in between us and 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:37.680 he took the CD from me. He was like, yo, 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.880 I got you. For some reason, I believed him. I mean, 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:42.879 I just left. I ain't gonna I feel defeated. Man. 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.439 I went back to the hood, like, damn, man, it's over. 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.600 The rap sh it ain't working, man. Niggas. Niggas just 0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.440 shit it on me, the whole ship. So now I'm 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:54.880 back in the hood. At the time, the individual by 0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:56.279 the name of Born True. You know what I'm saying. 0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.200 He was managing me, very well respected, very well known. 0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:03.000 He didn't won, who gave me yourself? And he had 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.239 passed away. So I was going through a lot of 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.720 things in my life at that time, and I actually 0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.040 attended his funeral that particular day. I got into a 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.080 real bad situation and right when I'm about to throw 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.200 my life away, this is no bullshit. I can't make 0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.279 this up. I jump in the car and we're trying 0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.040 to get out of there. My phone ringing in the 0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.880 process of the ship and I picked up the phone. 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:26.879 It was Slate. I had my number on the CD. 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.440 He was like, Yo, I heard your CD. You on 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:32.520 the show next week? Well, I mean the rest was history. Bro. 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.120 When he said you on the show, he meant playing 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.480 the record that he invited me. He was like, I 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.200 want you to come up to the radio station live 0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.440 wrap on the edd A whole ship, I mean. So 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.920 that shit was like life changed the moment for me, Bro, 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.600 like all right, world, because I was just about to 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.439 throw my life away. Man. He called in the midst 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.719 of that and inviting me on the radio, which was 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:54.239 a dream for me, you know what I'm saying. So 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.400 I went on the radio and rest in peace. Prodigy 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.440 was there. Prodigy and somebody else was did like you 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.040 know what I'm saying, and we all was spitting live 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.800 on the air. Queen's niggas, put your brooks niggas. I 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:14.480 did that same ship for fath. I remember that we 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.520 was rapping on the man. But like I said, but 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.440 for me, like I know nowadays they take this ship 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:21.920 for granted, but this music ship, I'm not ashamed to 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.000 say it was a dream for me. Bro So so 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:30.040 boom from Casey who gets involved from there, Buster Rhymes 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.160 or Chris Lightning. We kept grinding me and Slaye kept 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.000 grinding for the loans. If you listen to the mixtape, 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:36.120 Slave was fash and at the end of the air 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.839 mixing better sign my nigga. So he took you under 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.200 his wing right from that first, under his wing, from 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.960 from from the from that moment on some better term 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.600 me coping from Queens. What I feel like what Slade 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.200 did for you was kind of like what Clue did 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.520 for Nature, right, like you know, Nas had got that 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.440 route and then I don't know if you remember, but 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.600 Nature was when Nation was on the beginning of the 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.359 Bobby and like I felt like he was on every 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.840 Slave tape and that's how he was doing. So you 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.239 agree with that, Oh yeah, yeah, I would. I would 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.640 definitely say that, but I would say, like, to Nature's credit, 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.800 you know what I'm saying, he still had to deliver. 0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.040 If they would have put a wat nigga in get 0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.920 him out of here, you on a Clue tape especially, 0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.080 you know, what I mean, So one hundred percent, you're right. 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.800 He gave me a golden opportunity and I knew I 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:26.520 had to run with it. So then you said, y'all 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.440 was grinding, So how did y'all go? He was grinding? Man, 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.919 I was putting out a mixtape every every like every 0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:32.680 other month. Bro. Me and Slave was just putting out 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.640 a mixtape after mixtape, And honestly, niggas don't notice. But 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.360 I met Slaying oh four, I caught a buzz. I 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.320 didn't get signed to like six o seven, So I 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.879 was just doing mixtapes keeping my name going all that time. 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.839 But within that time frame, like you said, Buster had 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.279 wound up hearing me and he reached out the Slave 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.000 mixtape and he went on the air waves. He picked 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:55.400 me up over the air. You know how Bus is 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.920 like he he he paused, he give it up if 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.000 he respect what you do. And we started working together. 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.239 Me and Bus started doing joints and eventually they so 0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.080 they did a joint venture with Street Sweepers Flip Mode, 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.759 but just to both push me at the same time. 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.720 You know what I'm saying that that company Street Street 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:14.759 Swip Sweepers, Flip Flip Mode does not exist. Only they 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.879 only came together for fat pools because Buster really wanted 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:21.480 to sign me. Nas wanted to sign me at the time. Yeah, 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.000 I took a meeting with No Slay want me to 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.239 take that meeting, But I took that meeting. Really why 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.719 because they didn't get along at the time. Bro, No, 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.359 Slay always kind of held nads down, even even Nah 0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:31.960 with the Yeah, but that's why they didn't get along, 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.680 because Slay held him down, Okay, and then he felt 0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:38.600 like No, what happened was rest in peace of slate 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.080 and shout out the nads. You know what I'm saying. 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:41.960 I really don't get in between that, but I can 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.000 tell you what happened was this, and it's from my brother. 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.000 Slave Slay held him down. You know what I'm saying. 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:49.799 It's a battle of the beach, especially what to eat 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:54.400 the ship beat. Yeah, they had the situation they had 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.239 to decide and vote. I heard, and I heard he 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.440 also made sure people was being fair. Not only he 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:02.480 was just shop coming there. They were saying the facts 0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.200 said something else, but the facts said another thing. Right. 0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.080 I did hear that slave slave slaves they kept the 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.120 buck heard it held it down. He held it down. Okay. 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.719 Boom Slay had a single that now is featured on him. 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.600 Okay wow, and he had to video shoot the whole ship. 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.080 And now they showed up to the video. Remember this, 0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.040 this is the video. The video got shot up though, 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:26.600 or I don't know about that. I don't know about it. 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.799 Maybe it's the woman I hear about no shots flying 0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:30.920 the video. Maybe it's the woman Foxy on it. Now 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.040 I know it slays single okay. And that's why Slave 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:34.959 was he felt like, damn, I held you down, my nigga, 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.080 you know, saying you ain't do the joint. So long 0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:38.960 story short. Around that time, I had the bidding war 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.480 going on and Buster stepped up to the to the place. 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:44.560 Shots to my brother, Buster rhymes, man, one of the 0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:46.759 realist dudes in this play. Let's make some lights from 0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:53.320 Man shot the Buster so so Jungle one of my 0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:56.120 people's had new Jungle and he hit me. He said, yo, bro, 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.000 you know what I mean, Jungle, my man. Now I 0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.640 just want to meet you. Were cool. I go back 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.400 to Slave, I said, Yo, Slave, Niggas is telling me 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.440 at the time, I don't know nothing about this history 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.120 to be for nothing, Niggas is telling me Nas on 0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.640 the on the meeting say was like, hell no man, 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.400 nah man, like, you know what I'm saying. He you know, 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:17.640 slay man, I don't even get into it. But I'm like, 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.240 Slave's nas my nigga, I gotta take exactly, man, exactly. 0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.160 And he like, Yo, don't funk with it. He had 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.120 his reasons. I took the meeting. We met at like 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.440 a piece of shop in little Manhattan and ship. We 0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.640 sat down and Nas was cool, man like. He was like, Yo, 0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.960 tell Slave play a record, man like. But Slave was 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.040 still felt the way about that ship. But he was. 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:38.759 Nas was telling me he said, Yo, man, I'm about 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.800 to go to death Gym soon with jay Z. You 0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:41.920 know what I mean. I want you to come with 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.440 me m. And we spoke back and forth. You know 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.680 what I'm saying. He basically acknowledged what I was doing 0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.719 at the time, and he agreed to send over the offer, 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.560 which was which was a deaf jym offer. I went 0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:55.359 back to Slagh, I said, your slave, he's gonna send 0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.560 an office slay like man. All right, we wait, we'll see. 0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.239 You know what I'm saying. He sent the offer. It 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.640 was a low number at the time, so Slave was like, nah, 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.600 I'm signed the slag at this time. So we passed 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.960 on that, you know what I mean, And we kept grinding. 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:11.520 My brother Buster Ron's put me on the record that 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:16.040 changed my life. Make sure Buster put me on that record. 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.320 I couldn't go to the mall no more, for it 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.480 was crazy, you know what I'm saying. One time when 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.799 I did that record, Buster he was the long Holly said, Yo, 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:25.879 I want you to come out. I'm doing the show. 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.839 So I come out on my part and the whole 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.880 fucking building is pandemonium. I'm looking around. If anybody got 0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.759 the footage, I'm confused why they're screaming. But it was 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:42.600 for me, you know what I'm saying. And then at 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.120 the time was we were trying to pick the right deal. 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:49.440 Swiss Beats had an offer, uh and the Scope had 0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:53.719 a had an offer, and and job, you know what 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.960 I'm saying. Dave Lighty, was there no Chris Lighty? Okay, 0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.360 Chris Chris rest piece, but well Chris did kind of 0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:04.640 kind of fucked us over though, Okay, really rest in 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.439 peace to Chris, though he got you the million Nah. 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.480 Well yeah, no, what happened was this we had a 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.919 lot of different labels to choose from. But I'm under 0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.960 violated management and Chris Lighty is the president of the 0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.279 Job Record, like a conflict of no, no, no, not 0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.000 even that. I'm gonna tell you what happened. We're like, Yo, 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.400 we need to sign with Job one. They give them 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:27.359 the most money. No two, they giving the most money, 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:31.000 and number one, the nigga that we fuck with is 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:32.440 the president of the label. We're gonna be good. We 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.759 ain't gonna have no issues them as a manager. Not 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.319 even that. I tell you what happened. As soon as 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:42.759 I signed the fucking deal, news goes out everywhere. Chris 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.080 Lighty is no longer the president of the job Records. 0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.560 This ship is an R and B label, So you 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.319 Chris was like, Yo, sign over here. I'm telling y'all. 0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:51.719 Remember it's a beening one for me at the time, 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.320 right right. I mean, I'm doing what I do. So 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:58.319 everybody got interests and we decide and were like, all right, 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:02.080 Chris is in our AA, Yo, come over here, got y'all, Okay, 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.480 I'm here. It's a no brain. As soon as we signed, nigga, 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:06.919 what do you think he already knew he was leaving. 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.400 I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that's what happened. 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.680 So a young nigga from the other We've been working, 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:13.839 like my brother was saying, early, been working his whole 0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.640 life for this. You finally get in that position that 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:21.920 kind of Sleigh was pissed that Steve out here, but 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.000 we kept it moving and eventually we ran into trouble, which, 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.520 like I said before, the worst decision ever. What I'm 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.080 saying to sign it signed into Job Records for the 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.799 one point five million. Okay, all right, let me let 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:34.840 me ask you two part questions. Yeah, if you had 0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.160 a chance to do it over, which major would you 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:41.400 sign to? If not? Y'all? First of all, if I 0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:42.840 had a chance to do it over, I would have 0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:44.680 put my album off from the gate instead of doing 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.520 all those mixtapes number one and number two. To answer 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:49.799 your question, I would have definitely took that death Jam 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:54.080 deal with NOAs Okay, death jam with nos you would 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.200 have been. I would have took that because what was it? 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.880 It wasn't I Will Jam was no No. Whatever the 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:00.480 fuck he did when he went over there with jay Z, 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:04.200 his own wasn't quite master Pill yet it wasn't well, 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.080 I don't forget what it was. I think it might 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.160 have been a well slay. Slay looked at it like, yo, 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.719 pat Nah's never blew nobody up but itself. You know 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.279 what I'm saying. Really, that was just slave. I'm just saying, Okay, 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.520 rest in peace. That's my brother, you know what I mean. 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.920 And I'm a I'm a big supporting fan of now, 0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:20.520 but I don't take nothing away from none of them. 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.320 This is what happened me. I don't look at it 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:24.759 like that. I look at it like it's like if 0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:26.680 a player go to a certain team, the team might 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.840 be trash, but when he go there, you know what 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:30.600 I'm saying, You don't. Yeah, I know what I would 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.920 have did with that given but you can't cry for 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:35.239 spilt milk. I'm here, man, but you know that's that's 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.520 what happened. That would have been crazy though. So then 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.839 how do you get out of this deal? The job? Yeah? Well, 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:46.480 thank god. When we negotiated it, we negotiated that if 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.120 they didn't do the right thing bias, we get to 0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.200 leave with the money. With the money, yeah, so we 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.879 left with the bread mean slant at the time, which 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:59.759 was yeah, goddamn goddamn. We didn't get to get to 0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.719 that marking the budget though. We had like a big 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.640 ass marketing budget that we didn't get to tap into. 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:06.680 We was mad about that, but we did get the 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.320 one point five you know, you, Me and Slay. We 0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.040 got out of there and back to the ground. So 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.879 how far did you did you throw out singles with them? 0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:17.960 How far did you go? We didn't even get a chance. 0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.600 It was a whole stabatarge. What happened. What happened that 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:24.759 job was Okay, when I was in the process of 0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:28.520 signing there, I got a I got a message. Back 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.000 then we had the side kicks, right of course, so 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.480 a nigga hit me on the side kick. It's when 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.600 I just signed. As a matter of fact, I was 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.600 in the process of the whole ship. Nigga hit me up. 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.880 He said, your pat They mad at the label. A 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.080 lot of people that work at the label they pissed 0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.480 off because what happened was Barry Whiss and p A 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:52.640 and Peter Thea. They signed me. The bosses signed me directly. 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:54.640 So when me and Slay took the meeting to do 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.000 the deal, he said, you know the reason why I'm 0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:57.560 signing you was because my son is a fan of 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.320 Little Library. So the people at the label, who was 0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.719 saying that bad right? Yeah, okay, he telling me that 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.760 at the at the meeting. So the people at the label, 0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:11.000 y'all know, I'm sure y'all can agree to this. They 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.399 didn't have nothing to do with like, I skip past 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:15.040 all of them niggas and went straight to the to 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.160 the boss. So they didn't like it. They didn't like 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.279 me because of that. They couldn't put their hands in 0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:22.080 my budget. They couldn't do nothing me and Slay was 0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.040 dealing directly with their boss. So somebody that hit me 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.040 up and they say your path I was at job. 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.759 I hope iheard a meeting them niggas was pissed off 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.520 that you signed to the label, and they saying ship 0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:33.839 like yo, as soon as you put out a single, 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:35.520 but don't go, we're gonna get them off the label. 0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:38.000 But what they did was that was that wasn't really 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:41.759 what you know, what what transpired. What happened was back then, 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:43.799 you know you needed the one two punch, you caught 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:45.520 a bus. Then you did the single with the R 0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.080 and B artists, get the street record, Street record, get 0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:49.520 the single with the R and B artists. You out 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.239 of here. All the R and B artists was on job. 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.400 So they blocked all the R and B artist from 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.920 getting on my project. You know what I'm saying. Yeah 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.279 they did. They did big like a motherfucker Like me 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.000 and Slay was fighting. You know what I'm saying. We 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:04.919 tried to get all Kelly, but I'm glad I didn't 0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:14.000 do that ship. You know what I'm saying, Go yeah, 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.200 but I mean, you know in the love brother, it's like, yeah, 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.759 they blocked him. They blocked t Pain. Listen to the 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.880 R and B artists they have. They blocked Chris Brown. 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:24.400 You know what I'm saying. Chris Brown is on the 0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.120 job too, that's you know what I'm saying. So all 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:28.640 and these artists were showing love, saying they wanted to 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:32.480 do pain. This might about, you know, controversy. Yeah, so 0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.400 they blocked all the R and B artist from the project. 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:36.880 Eventually that shi adin't work out. Me and Slay was like, 0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.920 all right, we got to exercise that close. Now I 0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.560 had to get out of them. So they asked you 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.279 a question, No, I didn't. Matter of fact, I did 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.960 get a single off, but my single was out two 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.680 weeks when it deal folded. Wow, I had Snoop Dog 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:57.200 won the single get out. Yeah, that's the fact was 0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:02.920 let's go you got something us? What's that is that? 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:10.319 I shaid, I gotta look up my glasses. All right, 0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.480 old man, ship it's a drinking game, but we're not drinking. Yeah, 0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:18.319 I mean y'all want to drink. Yeah, celebrating the album. 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:26.040 Then you go, man produce Fire Fire, Thank you saw 0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.759 hit me up to about it? Man, Look like I 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:33.040 was like, whoa, that's fire. I ain't even realize how 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:37.480 how it's like, Yo, that's no one can skip you put. 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.560 I just hated, like, if you're a fan of hip hop, 0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:44.480 you skip that. They're just mad people shock. My brother 0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:46.640 Sean too in the production. They had a mad day. 0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:48.680 My brother right here produced that whole project. You know 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:53.800 that fire I killed. I killed that ship. No, we 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.160 we did the We did the in the studio together 0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.399 like no emailing. You know what I'm saying, Like every 0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:01.520 question in the studio did you did you? Because when 0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:05.600 I first heard when you first introduced the project, I 0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.080 thought it was gonna because you know, to do the 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.960 freestyles in the car that inspire you to do the 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:11.680 Balls it did it did? 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:11.960 Man? 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:13.920 Because I was like, yeah, how's this gonna come out? 0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:15.720 Is he just gonna have like, oh that's white Balls 0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:20.840 did because so many people just hit me up like 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.319 you need to turn into a project. But I ain't 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:24.560 just want to do it. I wanted to make sure 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:27.120 I like, did it right? You know what I'm saying. Bro, 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:30.879 that showed me. That's a good project, man, good looking show. 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.560 Definitely got definitely gonna do part two. Man, Yeah, I 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:42.920 hit you. I'm like, I know the bro individuals to yeah, 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:45.279 oh yes, each time. It's gonna come with a short film. 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:46.960 You know what I'm saying. So, who's the girl on 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:51.400 the project? O Kadija that's under Artists. She underwent records, 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:54.320 so she signed to Win Records. I'm saying, that's family 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.120 right there. When when when now she killing it? She 0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.279 killing it? She from Cali man, she from Leone, but 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.120 she in calad of the Diamonds is up. Yeah, yeah, 0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:04.520 you know what I'm saying. But she's based in. 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:11.520 Yeah, yes Diamonds, shout the Cadijo. All right, we're gonna 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:13.400 do quick time with Slim. We're gonna give you two choices. 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.120 If you pick one, we're not drinking. If you say both, 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.080 you know want you you're playing, You're alumni. 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:25.480 Wanta drink? I'll be drinking a lot. Man. Great time 0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:31.319 with Slim getting my must time. I heard you crash 0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:35.120 into a police car? Did oh ship? Last time I 0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:43.719 left the last time? You gotta use that you ain't 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:47.360 gonna lie. This is a funny ship son, because I 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:49.600 knew I was twisted right. So the nigga was like 0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.760 he was par my dumb ass on the phone bomb. 0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:58.399 I look, it's a fucking cop call. I'm like, wow, 0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:03.200 ship itself like yo, I'm like, chill, chill, chill. I 0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:05.759 got this, and I started giving them all information. Yo, 0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.600 just the flight. But I'm going to jail. I'm like 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:11.919 going to jail and fucking Florida. I'm like yo, because 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:13.839 I booked every dud, did everything. You know what I'm saying. 0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:17.399 So police get out, step out of the car, sir, 0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:19.600 I styled the car. How much did you have to drink? 0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:25.000 I don't drink, right, I don't drink. I smell it 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.160 all over you. I don't know what you smell. I 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.960 don't drink. So they doing this ship with the eye tept. 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.279 I beat off I passed all that ship. Well, there's 0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:40.880 a plaque on the fucking ship says drinking. I'm like, 0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:44.480 is this nigga looking the car? I'm going, what you mean? 0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.799 Give me somebody flowers? Got them be drunk? Yo. I'm 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:53.520 looking like yo, yo hod that fucking drink Championships because 0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.640 he's got the flash light in the car. I'm like, 0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.160 they put two and two Togetheriggas be like, Yo, you 0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:04.239 definitely drink. Yeah exactly, they definitely. Why that's my son. 0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.080 I'm like, yeah, I'm eaven drinking. Like yeah, I'm a 0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:12.319 fan for both of y'all. Case Slay or Clark cat 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:21.680 Oh ship like both of those. I would, but come on, 0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:25.000 Kise slay man, y'all gotta drink that. I mean unless 0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:31.879 y'all want to. I ain't driving the sign loud and clear, 0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:38.000 driving the time motherfuckers Cain or jay z Oh ships 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:41.040 playing horrible with me. I'm gonna say king. I think 0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.759 jay z would say king. Yeah, that's King. I'm gonna 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:51.359 say both. Let's say both the drinking Okay shun price 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:56.359 or O d B. Damn. I'm gonna go, Sean, I'm 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:58.080 gonna go rest in peace. You know what I'm saying, 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.840 but definitely O d B. Man, you create Brooklyn's was crazy. 0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:07.000 I ain't gonna lie so monkey ball wealth card like 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:10.040 so effect they broke the draft for you know. You 0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:16.719 know what's funny? They similar similar. I mean like as 0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.800 far as not giving them like so many people in 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.759 the hip hop, they have something like like they're they're 0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:26.040 they're like have pride like what they were both they're 0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.120 both messages I don't give you. I mean like I'm on, 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.160 I'm on, I keep getting the EPT. But my ever, 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:37.160 we call the wealth welfare straight up welfare and I'm 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.480 I'm Sean saying I'm the Brokes rap. You know, like 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:42.239 that's just kind of like the same message in a 0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:45.640 certain way. Yeah, human had similar humor. It's something about O. 0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:46.040 D B. 0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:49.320 Like his energy, bro like it makes you want to 0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.080 fight as soon as you hit it. Come on. It's 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:59.320 just like dang. I was standing and I seen them like, 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.200 yeah that ship wasn't. Let me tell you the funny 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:06.160 ship about B. I invite him to a barbecue. He 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.239 goes to the barbecue, he got he got gatorade in 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.560 his head and then I'm like, here, you don't want 0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.320 to eat? He goes No, it's Ramadan. I like a 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:23.040 lot of barbecue. You just see him like you know, 0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:25.680 I don't belong here. I said, Yo, what part of 0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:30.920 the barbecue you didn't understand? Like that's what crazy people? 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:38.120 Brooklyn Both Brooklyn both Brooklyn. Ye seen there to live. 0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.480 I like how you pronounced live. I gotta go with that. 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:47.919 I've seen that. I'm going with Tyler. See I gotta 0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:50.879 drink because it's like that's different. I'm going to Okay, 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:54.000 my bad bad all this is, this is gonna be 0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:58.040 easy for y'all. Biggie or big al Biggie, that ship 0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:02.680 ain't easy man for me. Well, I'm Brooklyn biased anyway. Yeah, 0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:05.719 I know all y'all if you don't say biggie's something wrong. 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.319 But big l was crazy. That's the piece of hell. 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:13.880 But yeah, I gotta say big Okay, uncle murder or 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:21.520 man on oh ship crazy? Does I mean there's those 0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:23.400 guys over there, they write it. I just I just 0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:29.840 read it. What we ask you get whatever there you 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:33.720 want whatever, I'm gonna say, both Okay, I mean Brooklyn 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:41.520 man Brooklyn, Brooklyn looking for the wind okay asy or 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:48.759 fab ship. I'm taking a sip man Okay, cool, all right, 0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:53.120 Yeah you take this one joy badass of Rome Streets. 0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:59.400 Oh ship, that's tough like Rome Streets kids, get it shocked. No, 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:01.960 I like both of them, like both yeah, man, but 0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:04.279 he knew what he knew it and Joey you know 0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:08.800 what deliricis a species? Now? Yeah? Yeah, you know what 0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:15.719 I'm saying. Shot the both of them, MTV raps or 0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:20.960 rap City. I'm wan rap City rap City? That was 0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:27.000 easy master Ace or Ja Rule the Dammager master. Ay 0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:32.840 they both dopes me man, I think that was a problem. 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:43.120 Yeah it was Yeah, yeah, I'm I think was jay 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:46.120 U arguably the first rapp of the rep East New York. 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:49.600 I think no fat boys fat boys from East New 0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:53.160 York back. I did not know that fat boys, that's 0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:53.480 a fact. 0:57:54.120 --> 0:58:03.640 Okay, just a killer priest, just a that Jesus is 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:05.920 insane though very underrated. 0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.840 Yeah but I like killing but but he ain't got 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.840 the project that that that liquid swords like that's what 0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:16.160 gives them that they both deadly with the pen. You 0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:21.200 gotta have that body of work, liquid body of work 0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:27.400 them niggas. Jesus was crazy skazoo or to mm hmm. 0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:31.360 I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go ska Zoo. Okay, 0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:41.120 they like a group is an artist, but he also 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:49.439 put out guys. Well okay, that's probably that's broke that Yeah, 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:56.360 I ain't know that Lola Brook or Scarlet Lola. Yeah, Brooklyn, 0:58:56.400 --> 0:59:00.800 I gotta go broken, lolaire she got energy. Yeah, shout 0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:04.000 the load of brook the team eate man, I want 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.720 to see. I want to see. I ask you predominantly first, 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:11.600 and then I'm coming to the dominantly. It's Crazy next 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:14.760 or the nets nixt that's easy, okay, like it's not 0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:19.240 Brooklyn in all. Okay, you got you gotta New York, Brian, 0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:23.600 New York. Now you too, nigga. I don't either think 0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:31.000 let's big up to the next organization just one. I 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:36.360 don't know what the help that we want, I don't matter. 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:44.280 That's how we celebrated every single wining weekend. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:49.760 I don't know. I know how he is crazy man 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:55.560 said what the we can done? That win? Goddamn it? 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:58.920 But yeah, yeah, just like I don't know what happened, 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:08.600 but everybody celebrated. Yeah, I think said they won the 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.520 World Cup. I said I thought that would socker bro 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:13.400 I think that's what they're doing. I'm like, drag out 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:15.960 the league, to drag out the league. I can't he 1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:20.760 just give me the eighty game. I ain't gonna lie. 1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:22.720 When I see all the celebrated, I was like, fuck 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:26.000 that we're up. We won. I'm like, I don't know 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:29.320 what the fun that we won? Hey, that's crazy. Okay, 1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:34.120 this is a good one. MC Light or Laurence Hill. Damn, 1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:40.200 I'm sipping. I'm going I'm going Light. This is a rock. 1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:44.520 I'm going with light Man Wow, because I feel like 1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:47.200 she influenced Lauren Hill. You know what I'm saying. So 1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:49.760 I feel like the same thing he said earlier. Jay 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:51.400 Z would say king you know what I mean. So 1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:55.520 it's like it's kind of tough to put her over Light, 1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:58.040 you know what I'm saying. For me, I like that. 1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:00.800 I like that too. I'm anay with thin Light as 1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:07.080 a rock, smooth hustler or sort some money. Both of 1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:10.440 my guys Man too, Man too Brownsville, So both of 1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:14.840 it's both Brooklyn member for smooth smooth. It's like them 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:25.480 that's my guyrigged my god, that's my period crew from 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:28.200 That's where I come from. Bro Like I gotta go smooth. 1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:31.919 I love so sources my god too, though, I gotta 1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:34.480 shout the source of money, shout. I just saw some money, 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:38.120 but I'm gonna go. I gotta go smooth. Though broken 1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:44.200 languages still still one of the Yeah, the beat and 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:49.680 actually everything the source source my nigga too. Man, you drinking, No, 1:01:49.840 --> 1:01:53.520 I took smooth smooth, Okay, smooth smooth, Okay, beat Street 1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:57.880 or Crush grew, Rush grew. It's the time, man, Damn yeah, yeah, 1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:02.200 I got into that bugging. I thought he said breaking 1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:06.560 for a second, like breaking B Street and Crush grew 1:02:07.200 --> 1:02:11.560 Eighties crazy okay saying no, I'm just kidding. Eighties hip 1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:18.520 hop or nineties hip hop, that's tough. So it's easy, man, 1:02:18.880 --> 1:02:21.200 that's a tough one. Come on, Pat what you said 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:23.680 you Pat poop? Nineties bro, It's no, that's for me, 1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:26.479 nineties man, because you know what eighties you got, she rapped, 1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:30.360 you got sucking Kane, you got rock. Yeah, g wrapped 1:02:30.360 --> 1:02:33.160 in the nineties too, Il Street, black l Street Blues 1:02:33.640 --> 1:02:37.040 in the nineties. He was in the nineties to the nineties, 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:40.880 but eighties g was a different g though. Yeah, jeez, jeez, 1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:43.160 I'm gonna take you sip on that because to me, 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:45.320 speaking a cool g rap the first time I heard 1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:48.040 him was Rooster Evil. That's the fact to me. To me, 1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:52.000 I'm like, eighties hip hop was on coke and nineties 1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:56.800 hip hop. So I'm telling it, yeah, you hip hop 1:02:56.880 --> 1:02:59.840 was in the back of the seat. I was doing 1:02:59.920 --> 1:03:02.800 them songs was out. I didn't even know they was 1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:10.080 talking about coke. Back the White Line had spikes and 1:03:10.120 --> 1:03:16.400 ship Carrol. I had to tell there was a nigga 1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:19.439 prison trying to convince me, Yo, there was a nigga 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:21.200 in prison, man, and this how you know jail? You 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:24.000 know jail niggas will tell you anything. Did they get you? 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:25.800 Some wool tang came out. I was in jail. He 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:27.640 tried to tell me that the wool tang was because 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:30.240 they smoked wolves, and I was like, man, you bugging huh. 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:33.640 They got a little truth to it, because he was 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:36.439 I'm like a little truth. But then he started breaking 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:38.880 down the set. He was like, think about it, no question, 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:44.360 that was feed cracks weed combination. I was like, damn na, bro, 1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:47.800 niggas wasn't smoking wolves. I ain't realized wolves was a 1:03:47.880 --> 1:03:49.720 cool thing back in the day, like, oh, they still 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:53.840 do it out here right now? What did you call it? Dirty? Dirty? Yeah, 1:03:54.120 --> 1:03:57.880 well crack they love it out here. That's filtering the 1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:04.200 My nigga took that shout out. Listen to me, I 1:04:04.360 --> 1:04:06.520 did love. I did a fucking love of hip hop. 1:04:06.600 --> 1:04:10.680 See with Daddy and he's there, he's just a bagg 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:16.080 and we're just sitting there looking at each other like 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:27.920 this character. The whole time, it was kept going, I 1:04:28.080 --> 1:04:30.600 love these niggas out there, these niggas crazy. I'm sorry. 1:04:32.360 --> 1:04:36.240 Rockefeller Rough Riders kept going, it's crazy. I should go on. 1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:39.280 So that's all or too. If I had it was 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:41.800 being I had my chance when they was in the peak, 1:04:41.880 --> 1:04:45.280 I probably would have chose Rockefeller. Yeah, I gotta go 1:04:45.320 --> 1:04:50.040 to Brooklyn a fella. Okay, Okay, I forgot, but rough 1:04:50.080 --> 1:04:52.720 Father's got a couple of Brooklyn CEO's in there. Okay. 1:04:53.320 --> 1:04:56.880 The rough Riders man crazy. The Yankees are the Mets 1:04:57.120 --> 1:05:05.280 Yankees Yankees one Queen's niggas Queen. I like when the 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:07.800 Yankees winning. But I always got to wear that. And 1:05:07.920 --> 1:05:09.960 it's like wearing the Knicks colors too. You're right, it's 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:14.480 really the next colors too, right, Okay Smith and Wesson 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:19.439 or m O p oh Man mass policy. I'm going. 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:24.120 I'm going with them, going with billion fang all billion fang. 1:05:24.240 --> 1:05:26.720 I love both of them, both of them, My brothers 1:05:27.120 --> 1:05:29.640 both got legend that w jointed both of them thing 1:05:30.400 --> 1:05:33.120 both of them in sing bro. Words can't describe it, 1:05:33.680 --> 1:05:34.800 you know what I'm saying. But I got to take 1:05:34.840 --> 1:05:41.280 a drink. Okay special ad or father MC special special Bro. 1:05:41.640 --> 1:05:48.600 I got it man, shout the father C Man. He's 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:52.920 still touring. No, no, no, right now we're doing that. 1:05:53.080 --> 1:06:00.720 If you do for dude, now now now off finished. 1:06:00.920 --> 1:06:03.320 I'm not sure how much he's dancing on stage, but 1:06:03.480 --> 1:06:06.720 he's on stage like every week, Like, well I see him. Yeah, 1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:10.600 Like that's what I love about our old school brothers. 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:12.440 When I see them on the road, that ship makes 1:06:12.520 --> 1:06:14.760 me feel real, very real good. You know what I'm saying. 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:17.280 Like one of the best hip hop records. I got 1:06:17.360 --> 1:06:19.240 it man, How start? How start to see if we 1:06:19.360 --> 1:06:19.960 hip hop? Let's go. 1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:25.120 I'm your title nu Puerto Rican speaking so that you know, 1:06:28.640 --> 1:06:32.080 listen to see something when we say you she was 1:06:32.200 --> 1:06:32.760 meant to be. 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:40.919 In the handcut that it was a fake. Big Daddy 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:45.520 came come. I always looked at that. I can't let 1:06:45.560 --> 1:06:50.000 Brook crown Daddy Kane. I was like, yo, all the 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:57.400 big Daddy Cane got the head. Yeah, and he blonded it. Yeah. Yeah, 1:06:57.880 --> 1:07:02.120 he was wrapping the video music box that he was. Okay, 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:04.360 and you're gonna get back to the interview. That's funny 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:08.160 Town Records was doing it. They was doing it heavy 1:07:08.240 --> 1:07:09.160 down with heavy d y. 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:09.600 Yeah. 1:07:09.680 --> 1:07:14.400 They had the animals to heavy. Don't he dive? It 1:07:14.520 --> 1:07:17.240 was no heavy deed. It might not have been big, 1:07:17.520 --> 1:07:21.160 no big, no big pun. That boy was about it. 1:07:21.440 --> 1:07:27.000 Boys before having no big pun followed the style. Yeah, yeah, 1:07:27.320 --> 1:07:30.120 I don't bad boys was big that he wanted to 1:07:30.160 --> 1:07:32.800 be heavy boys. I forgot the fat boy first. I 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:37.240 thought I thought they was kind of like the same era. Man. Okay, yeah, 1:07:37.240 --> 1:07:44.080 you're right, you're right right, Yeah. I used to like 1:07:44.160 --> 1:07:48.560 Muffy that you know what then he was doing I 1:07:48.600 --> 1:07:55.000 was like, this ship is fire and they made movies too. 1:07:55.240 --> 1:07:56.360 They broke down those barriers. 1:07:57.520 --> 1:07:57.720 Yeah. 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:01.000 So this is the last Quesson that we gonna get 1:08:01.040 --> 1:08:04.480 back into the interview and close it out. Loyalty or 1:08:04.520 --> 1:08:13.440 respect mm hmmmm, I'm gonna say I would say both 1:08:13.760 --> 1:08:16.360 both I think they go hand in hand. Yeah is 1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:18.479 the time if it's that you should drink this is 1:08:18.760 --> 1:08:25.160 this is the actual time. Last time we got to check. Yeah, 1:08:25.160 --> 1:08:28.040 I got you can't have one without the other. That's 1:08:28.080 --> 1:08:29.760 what I believe. You know what I mean, if you 1:08:29.880 --> 1:08:31.680 loyal to him, probably if you don't have to pick, 1:08:31.720 --> 1:08:33.479 why would you pick one? Is what I'm saying. You 1:08:33.560 --> 1:08:39.920 know I want so not. You got the uh situation. Job. 1:08:42.080 --> 1:08:44.320 You got got to fill the industry. You got to 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:47.280 got gotta get a couple of dollars. What makes you 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:52.720 say I want to I'm gonna do love and hip hop? Oh? 1:08:54.040 --> 1:08:59.600 You called me? He called me one time. He was like, 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:01.600 did it and they made me look horrible? He was 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:05.240 like fun, they called it love and hip hop? And 1:09:05.400 --> 1:09:07.800 I said, you're fam He was like, I seen, I 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:10.040 seen your experience up there where you think. I don't 1:09:10.040 --> 1:09:12.200 know if you remember this conversation. He was like what 1:09:12.280 --> 1:09:15.840 do you think? And I was like, I'm like, you're 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:18.120 doing it with his ex wife. And I was like, 1:09:19.080 --> 1:09:21.000 I think you should do it because number one, they're 1:09:21.000 --> 1:09:23.720 not gonna play with her. The bitches over there, they're 1:09:23.720 --> 1:09:25.439 not gonna they'll play with us because they ain't much 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:27.519 we could do. They're not gonna play with her, and 1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:29.680 that's what they was doing. They're like, how we make 1:09:29.760 --> 1:09:31.320 this nigga look like an ass? So they did the 1:09:31.360 --> 1:09:33.439 beat up and they did they just make I'm like, 1:09:33.479 --> 1:09:35.439 why y'all doing this shit to me when they don't 1:09:35.479 --> 1:09:36.800 fuck with you. They don't fuck with you, and they 1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:39.160 need ratings. They was like, if we could make you 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:42.360 look like a fucking buffoon and it brings, and we 1:09:42.439 --> 1:09:44.439 could throw you up on that screen and people gonna 1:09:44.439 --> 1:09:47.040 tap in, we're gonna do it. But I told Pap, 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:49.160 I say, your situation is different, bro, like you looked 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:51.479 at as a totally different I don't even know if 1:09:51.479 --> 1:09:52.080 you remember this coming. 1:09:52.160 --> 1:09:52.680 No, I do. 1:09:52.800 --> 1:09:56.040 I do remember so because you had. So what happened 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:58.800 was it was a point when when she was away, 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:02.760 they was actually reaching out to me, to you. Yeah, 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:04.160 they was reaching out to us to do the show 1:10:04.160 --> 1:10:06.679 while she was incarcerated, and we was like, you would 1:10:06.680 --> 1:10:08.360 have been on Love after lock. Yeah. I was like, man, 1:10:08.400 --> 1:10:11.120 this shit is like they over there, they throwing drinks 1:10:11.200 --> 1:10:12.920 on each other and like that shit ain't gonna work. 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:16.000 Turned it down. But then when she came home, they 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:20.200 came with the offer again, and you know, we both 1:10:20.280 --> 1:10:21.920 kind of had like a bad rep, you know what 1:10:21.920 --> 1:10:24.360 I'm saying. She had one, of course what she went through, 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:27.000 and I had a bunch of situations man that that 1:10:27.360 --> 1:10:28.800 went on behind the scenes, you know what I'm saying. 1:10:29.320 --> 1:10:31.920 And people people knew me as an artist, but they 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:33.559 an't know Pap Poosta person, you know what I'm saying. 1:10:34.080 --> 1:10:36.200 So we we talked and at that point when she 1:10:36.320 --> 1:10:38.800 came home, we decided to do it. But around that time, 1:10:38.880 --> 1:10:40.760 that's when I started making them calls. I'm like, damn, 1:10:40.760 --> 1:10:42.040 all right, I know my nigga was on it. Let 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:44.040 me come up and see checked the tip, you know 1:10:44.080 --> 1:10:45.560 what I'm saying, Cause I kind of seem like I 1:10:45.680 --> 1:10:47.800 know him, but I seen how they depicted him on 1:10:47.840 --> 1:10:49.400 the screen. I was like, that's not who we are, 1:10:50.680 --> 1:10:52.720 you know what I mean, some real ship, but that's 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:57.320 why I have Yeah. Yeah, so I called them whatever, 1:10:57.360 --> 1:10:58.680 and you know what I mean, just people that I 1:10:58.800 --> 1:11:00.559 know that was on the show that I think will 1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:02.920 give me an honest opinion. But me and Hus spoke 1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:06.160 and we decided to do it. And it was crazy 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:09.639 when I did that shit though, because I was expecting 1:11:09.680 --> 1:11:12.360 to get clowned. I was like, I was like, they 1:11:12.400 --> 1:11:17.320 about to kill me, man, They about to kill me. First. First, 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:20.720 it kind of started when when she first caught the 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:25.439 situation or whatever they was clowning me. They was it 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:27.679 was killing me back then. You know what I'm saying. 1:11:27.720 --> 1:11:29.320 It was killing me back in the beginning. It was 1:11:29.360 --> 1:11:31.479 like Yo, they had the mentality like yo, you know 1:11:31.520 --> 1:11:33.040 what I mean with somebody, will she do that for you? 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:34.840 You know what I'm saying. Because I was going to 1:11:34.920 --> 1:11:37.160 visit her and all of that shit, and you know, 1:11:37.200 --> 1:11:40.400 I would post certain things. But one time when it 1:11:40.479 --> 1:11:42.280 kind of changed, Double Excel reached out and they wanted 1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:43.400 to do an interview. They was like, yeah, we just 1:11:43.439 --> 1:11:45.960 want to follow you for the day. And my routine 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:48.880 was go to the supermarket, get thirty one pounds of 1:11:48.880 --> 1:11:51.760 food and didn't go to the jail, drop the food 1:11:51.760 --> 1:11:53.439 off and going to visit. So they came actually with 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:56.280 me to the supermarket. And then it came with me 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:59.320 on the Double Sell magazine. You probably could pull it up, 1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:01.280 and they sent on a visit with us and they 1:12:01.360 --> 1:12:03.160 put the article out. When they put the article out, 1:12:03.160 --> 1:12:05.599 that's when it changed and they kind of stopped clowning 1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:07.600 me at the time because I didn't see those algorithms. 1:12:07.600 --> 1:12:09.599 Are people clowning you? So but yeah, in the beginning, 1:12:09.640 --> 1:12:11.479 I can show you ship. It's certain niggas that I 1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:13.599 wanted to slap from back then, like I see them now. 1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:15.880 But they was like when she caught the case, they 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:18.080 thought it was funny. You know, I didn't think that 1:12:18.320 --> 1:12:22.000 was funny. I got another story. It was funny that 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:24.000 you was being Lloyd. They thought it was funny that 1:12:24.920 --> 1:12:26.800 she caught the case. She went to jail, and they 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:29.320 thought I was an idiot for holding it down. One 1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:31.400 of the reasons why I got minds on that plane 1:12:31.560 --> 1:12:33.880 you called me last night and I'm in Connecticut and 1:12:34.920 --> 1:12:36.960 you got to be in Miami by noon, is because 1:12:37.000 --> 1:12:38.880 it was him, because I got stories. He don't even 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:43.160 remember speaking of Remy, right, the first be et site 1:12:43.200 --> 1:12:46.519 from it was me, you, the first one. When they 1:12:46.600 --> 1:12:51.760 first started them ships, Me, you, Ron Fast, Remy. It 1:12:51.920 --> 1:12:54.360 was a couple and they would only give us eight bars. 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:56.400 Back then. You couldn't go like niggas. They was like, no, 1:12:56.640 --> 1:12:59.320 everybody do look full little bars. So I remember me 1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:01.600 and you talking because me and you knew Remy is 1:13:01.600 --> 1:13:05.040 already a star. Me and Son is under up and coming. 1:13:05.760 --> 1:13:07.880 So I remember, I remember me and you speaking. I'm like, yo, 1:13:08.360 --> 1:13:10.240 re mey be looking at you. Was like, yeah, I'm like, 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:14.280 y'all holler. He was like, but meanwhile, I didn't know 1:13:14.439 --> 1:13:16.479 you probably had backed her. This is brand new, this 1:13:16.560 --> 1:13:21.479 is the first. This is two thousand and Because I'm 1:13:21.520 --> 1:13:24.160 like yo, He's like, I'm like, nah, she's too big 1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:25.920 of a star. She ain't. She ain't a fucking what. 1:13:26.120 --> 1:13:27.960 She ain't suing with neither one of us. But we 1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:31.080 just talking being niggas. And then the next thing, you know, 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:34.120 there in a relationship. I'm like, did he bag it 1:13:34.200 --> 1:13:38.800 that day? Because you I wasn't together at the time. 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:42.320 This was the first bet site for Ron. I think 1:13:42.360 --> 1:13:44.360 they split us up. Yeah, they did. They had me 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:46.960 and Ron face and they was on four the time 1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:51.960 we was. We was on the first double XL freshman 1:13:52.040 --> 1:13:58.680 cover we did, the first being the first. Yeah, we 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:02.799 paved a lot. He was the New York next supposed 1:14:02.800 --> 1:14:06.040 to be Saviors after y'all, After y'all. It was like Pat, 1:14:06.120 --> 1:14:10.200 there's two guys and Ship Brooklyn niggas Saigon and Me 1:14:10.280 --> 1:14:12.880 and Son at the beginning, it was like, we'll be 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:15.200 going with this bro, and Kate Slay was the glue 1:14:15.479 --> 1:14:19.439 Slave Man recipes of my brother Slave ten records Niggers. 1:14:19.479 --> 1:14:21.479 Though we didn't like each other, I was like, that's 1:14:21.520 --> 1:14:23.760 one of my favorite rappers. That's the fact, I think 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:27.240 one of my favorite rabbits. You po, I seen niggas 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:30.400 used to make Pat Punk Patpoo's Versus Sagon mixtapes. That's 1:14:30.400 --> 1:14:32.439 the fact, Like DJ used to make Pat Poo's Verse 1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:34.960 Sagon you look google them since to this day. And 1:14:35.520 --> 1:14:37.920 Kate Slay because Kate Slay put me in the game too. 1:14:38.560 --> 1:14:42.120 So Slave was like, nah, I mean your nigga y Yeah, 1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:46.439 that's the fact, that's the first one. Yeah, and Blue 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:51.200 paid for Jasco SOLDI your boys shit right now, your 1:14:51.280 --> 1:14:56.479 first So but when y'all got together, I always wondered, 1:14:56.560 --> 1:15:00.559 like did it start that day because me, I can't 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:02.680 even remember if it was around the same around that 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:06.760 same time, you know what I mean. But yeah, going 1:15:06.840 --> 1:15:09.120 back to that man, like I said in the beginning, 1:15:09.160 --> 1:15:10.360 it was a clown show, you know what I'm saying. 1:15:10.520 --> 1:15:12.800 But that was like they're in the bid And then, 1:15:12.880 --> 1:15:16.200 like I said, when XXL did that interview. Everything changed 1:15:16.720 --> 1:15:18.880 from from there on. People started to be like, damn, 1:15:19.000 --> 1:15:21.599 like you know what I mean. They kind of respected 1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:23.880 it and it just went from there. But when we 1:15:23.960 --> 1:15:26.080 did the show, the reason why I was expecting to 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:28.880 get clown because you didn't see that on there. You 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:32.519 didn't see like a man actually being there for his family, 1:15:32.520 --> 1:15:35.080 you know what I'm saying. So we shot that. She 1:15:35.160 --> 1:15:37.120 remember I was on one knee proposing the whole ship. 1:15:37.840 --> 1:15:39.639 So I was like, yeah, they got married in the cast, 1:15:39.760 --> 1:15:42.680 They're about to kill they about to kill me. It 1:15:42.760 --> 1:15:45.000 was crazy when it came out. I really felt like 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:47.120 our people was tired of seeing us to pick it 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:50.120 like down the screen. I believe so too real, bro, 1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.280 because the love was creaty. I couldn't believe it. You 1:15:52.400 --> 1:15:54.400 did it right though it was nothing but love. The 1:15:54.479 --> 1:15:57.160 opportunity made it right and it was organic, you know 1:15:57.200 --> 1:15:59.320 what I'm saying. Like it was it was really organic 1:15:59.360 --> 1:16:04.360 at the time. I believe you represent it for every 1:16:04.560 --> 1:16:07.960 street dude that want to come home at night, you 1:16:08.000 --> 1:16:09.759 know what I'm saying. Like, there's a lot of street 1:16:09.840 --> 1:16:11.840 dudes who don't want to come home at night, or 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:14.439 street people who's not going to come home at night. 1:16:14.760 --> 1:16:16.840 But then there's people that want to come home at night. 1:16:16.880 --> 1:16:19.479 They want to come home at night, not only uh 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:23.240 to safety, but to their women and their family. And 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:26.200 I believe everybody was like rooting for you, like you 1:16:26.240 --> 1:16:27.800 know what I'm saying, just as a man, like you 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:31.240 know what I'm saying regardless, and I'm just saying, you 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:35.280 represent manhood in a great, great way, man like, like 1:16:35.320 --> 1:16:36.439 you know what I'm saying. So I just want to 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:41.400 personally give you a round. Thank you. We got like 1:16:41.560 --> 1:16:43.160 I got an aunt. I got an aunt, she like 1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:45.759 sixty eight. She was like, I need me a pat poos. 1:16:45.840 --> 1:16:54.720 I said, Yo. It was a crazy time back. Yeah, 1:16:54.720 --> 1:17:02.240 I don't want your old ass. I need yo, like 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:06.160 an years old. But the imagery you put out there 1:17:06.280 --> 1:17:09.080 was amazing, bro, Noah, it was. It was so crazy, man, 1:17:09.200 --> 1:17:11.679 Like I knew what it was like at that time, 1:17:11.880 --> 1:17:15.519 Like it was cool to be, you know, moving around 1:17:15.560 --> 1:17:17.720 with different chicks and all that ship. So that's what 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:21.080 everybody was putting out there. I feel like when at 1:17:21.120 --> 1:17:24.320 that time, after that came out, you started to see 1:17:24.360 --> 1:17:27.160 it more because it exists. But it's like, I don't know, 1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:28.640 Nigga was hot and it what the fuck. You know 1:17:28.640 --> 1:17:31.400 what I'm saying. But I feel like I think the 1:17:31.439 --> 1:17:33.200 world was tired of seeing us throwing drinks on each 1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:35.719 other on the screen and all that ship throwing throwing 1:17:35.840 --> 1:17:42.120 bags on yeah, like guilty on the roof and sh yeah. 1:17:43.960 --> 1:17:45.400 And I was like, Yo, they ain't they ain't. This 1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:49.360 ain't my niggas. It really depicted you crazy like that. 1:17:49.680 --> 1:17:51.960 What I don't watch none of that like that. It 1:17:52.080 --> 1:17:54.280 got so bad My real friends that really knew me, 1:17:55.000 --> 1:17:57.320 like I go, We'll go to a you know, an 1:17:57.439 --> 1:17:59.360 event or something, and they like pulled me to the side, 1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:01.280 like Y're gonnaell my wife don't funk with you, son. 1:18:01.960 --> 1:18:04.400 I'm like, I don't even know your wife. Bro, she 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:07.240 watched the show, son, she don't like you. Yeah, I'm like, 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:12.160 you ain't tell her like the real me like that. 1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:16.040 You people's perception of what they see and what they believe. Yeah, yeah, 1:18:16.200 --> 1:18:17.400 Like they pushed narratives. 1:18:17.439 --> 1:18:20.320 Nowadays, it's some wicked ship, bro, But you didn't have 1:18:20.439 --> 1:18:23.879 that happened during year like Prince Charming. 1:18:28.840 --> 1:18:30.280 Let me tell you something. It was like it was 1:18:30.360 --> 1:18:32.760 crazy back then, right when that ship came out, Like 1:18:32.880 --> 1:18:35.280 I would get mixed reactions like like like you said, 1:18:35.760 --> 1:18:39.280 your like, I would go somewhere and the older women 1:18:39.400 --> 1:18:42.599 like different, they would go crazy. But I'll be going 1:18:42.640 --> 1:18:45.160 through the tobo. Back then, they didn't have the easy 1:18:45.200 --> 1:18:47.880 path and the nigga. I'll pull up and get a 1:18:47.920 --> 1:18:50.639 nigga my money, like, oh, you fucking up my house. 1:18:56.040 --> 1:18:58.000 You're fucking up niggas house on too. I see that too. 1:19:04.880 --> 1:19:12.320 I can see that. I'm just asking, is there anything 1:19:12.400 --> 1:19:14.600 you ever regret about doing the show? Not not not 1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:18.120 your relationship the show. I don't because they just, honestly, 1:19:18.200 --> 1:19:21.000 like I said, they actually let you leave. They followed. 1:19:21.160 --> 1:19:23.680 They followed me like I said, on the visit and 1:19:23.720 --> 1:19:26.280 all that ship. That's when it started. So it was organic. 1:19:26.400 --> 1:19:28.040 So I would have to regret my life if I 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:31.360 regret it, because honestly, they just documented what was going on. 1:19:31.600 --> 1:19:33.320 I'll give moaning them credit for that, like they did 1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:36.559 a good job at just recalling what was happening at 1:19:36.600 --> 1:19:43.160 the time. That's what you know. I regret it like 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:47.720 a motherfucker. I don't regret mine what you know well, 1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:50.120 but you ain't going there half a season like a 1:19:50.360 --> 1:19:53.040 season and a half. I didn't once I did no drama, 1:19:53.080 --> 1:20:00.280 they got no drama. You know everka, Okay, I did mist. 1:20:11.640 --> 1:20:12.240 So uh. 1:20:14.520 --> 1:20:16.320 So you didn't. You don't regret that. But I remember 1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:18.640 one time you was, uh I believe you said you 1:20:18.760 --> 1:20:21.200 went to go on a visit and you said, the 1:20:21.240 --> 1:20:23.479 one thing that you don't see is other men, Like 1:20:23.840 --> 1:20:27.280 like how you see women visiting men, You didn't see 1:20:27.680 --> 1:20:30.880 men reciprocating that you you didn't see a lot of them. Nah, 1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:33.000 what happened is I used to go to rik As 1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:35.200 Island and visit like a lot of my homies, and 1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:37.200 there be snow outside. You see women out there with 1:20:37.240 --> 1:20:40.960 strollers and the snow. Bro getting on the bus going 1:20:41.000 --> 1:20:42.760 to see dudes get on the visiting floor. You can't 1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:44.479 even get in because they're fighting to get in. There 1:20:44.560 --> 1:20:53.240 a lot of big joints to visit dudes girls, but 1:20:53.840 --> 1:20:57.080 they it's crowded, Bro, it's crowded. But then when you 1:20:57.160 --> 1:20:58.960 go when I used to go to the women's facility, 1:20:59.000 --> 1:21:01.160 that ship was empty. It'd be like me and two 1:21:01.200 --> 1:21:04.080 other dudes, like we know each other. And I used 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:06.559 to be like, I started comparing it too, like damn 1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:09.880 niggas is leaving it the chicks for the women for 1:21:10.000 --> 1:21:13.800 dad in here because they got visited every day a while. 1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:17.880 Deserve it, bro, Wow, they got visits every day every day. 1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:20.040 When when when you're on top, Yeah, okay, every day 1:21:20.360 --> 1:21:20.720 every day. 1:21:22.760 --> 1:21:23.479 So I. 1:21:28.040 --> 1:21:34.040 Y'all got married in jail. Yeah okay, so that was 1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:36.560 the real marriage. But then when y'all came home, it 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:39.439 was the castle wedding. Yeah, the whole the whole thing. 1:21:39.600 --> 1:21:41.600 That was like the fly ship have a bro like 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:43.880 that was like that was like that was like, yo, 1:21:43.960 --> 1:21:46.920 you gave hope to everybody. It was like it was 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:49.519 like was that something you you wanted to do? Like 1:21:49.600 --> 1:21:52.679 that big like like that was like a fairy tale 1:21:52.720 --> 1:21:55.200 wedding for lack of a better term. Yeah, no, that 1:21:55.360 --> 1:21:57.840 was something that happened. It happened naturally because initially, like 1:21:57.920 --> 1:21:59.960 you said, it happened on the inside, so you know, 1:22:00.960 --> 1:22:03.240 it didn't get to happen the correct way. So you know, 1:22:03.280 --> 1:22:04.960 you always want to make sure you do it right. 1:22:06.200 --> 1:22:08.519 Can I ask you a question? Because ask somebody who 1:22:08.560 --> 1:22:12.200 knows you personally, somebody who respects you highly respects you, 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:15.799 and you know, your life is playing out in public 1:22:16.120 --> 1:22:17.960 just like mine did. It's like we all once we 1:22:18.040 --> 1:22:20.680 sign up for this ship, we public were in the public, Right, 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:24.559 how's it been co parenting since since you're split? Because 1:22:24.600 --> 1:22:27.639 that's the problem I have with the mothers and my children, 1:22:27.720 --> 1:22:31.640 Like sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not, like because a 1:22:31.720 --> 1:22:34.519 woman a woman could sometimes use to use a child 1:22:34.680 --> 1:22:37.599 to really when they know you love your child, they like, oh, 1:22:37.640 --> 1:22:40.160 I got something you love more than yourself, so I 1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:43.160 could use that. How's co parenting been with your ex since? Since? 1:22:43.720 --> 1:22:45.560 I Just make the best out of it, you know 1:22:45.600 --> 1:22:46.920 what I'm saying, And making the best out of it. 1:22:47.040 --> 1:22:50.040 You know, you my child is the most important thing fact, 1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:52.240 you know what I mean, Just putting put my kid 1:22:52.320 --> 1:22:54.560 first and making the best out of you. You know 1:22:54.560 --> 1:22:56.439 what I mean, getting canting do it because that's the 1:22:56.479 --> 1:22:59.680 ship for the most part. When you don't get, when 1:22:59.680 --> 1:23:01.200 you don't walk with somebody, you got to kill with them. 1:23:01.280 --> 1:23:03.040 That sh it is torture. When you love your kids 1:23:03.040 --> 1:23:05.000 and you're like, damn, I got to go through. That's 1:23:05.040 --> 1:23:07.200 why my kids are teenagers now, so I ain't they 1:23:07.280 --> 1:23:08.960 got their own phones. I ain't got to go through 1:23:09.040 --> 1:23:12.400 mom from ship. It's easy breezy now. But when you 1:23:12.479 --> 1:23:14.240 got to go through somebody you don't deal with, you 1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:17.360 get to this person you love. Ship is is torture. 1:23:17.400 --> 1:23:19.640 I don't know how many fathers is out there who 1:23:19.680 --> 1:23:22.240 really they kids lives, but that shit is could be. 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:24.320 That's one of the hardest things I've ever had to 1:23:24.360 --> 1:23:26.840 deal with in my life. Harder than prison, harder than 1:23:26.920 --> 1:23:30.800 getting shot, stabby and all. That ship was really having 1:23:30.880 --> 1:23:32.560 to deal with a woman who I didn't want to 1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:35.600 deal with at all because she got my baby. You know, 1:23:35.760 --> 1:23:39.479 there's an episode of Larry David right, it's called Kirby 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:42.320 Enthusiasm right with him and this girl break up and 1:23:42.360 --> 1:23:45.160 they make everyone kind of like choose a side like 1:23:45.240 --> 1:23:57.760 it's almost like the like, so, so you know that 1:23:58.520 --> 1:24:00.479 is not known for this ship. They on to go 1:24:00.560 --> 1:24:03.880 online and do this so no one sees them since 1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:06.479 this happens, and we see each other at Rock the Bells, 1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:08.320 Hold on before you finish? Can I bring my brother 1:24:08.360 --> 1:24:11.760 show on to it? Yeah? I got, I got, I got, 1:24:12.960 --> 1:24:14.680 I need to get my brother. See the man rock 1:24:14.760 --> 1:24:18.360 the bell I got got you got your gother? So 1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:20.400 I see the man walking the bells, I come out, 1:24:22.040 --> 1:24:25.800 mm hmm, I see I see the child. So I'm like, 1:24:26.000 --> 1:24:30.080 holy ship, I did I see left happens right there? 1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:37.000 I'm like, holy going on, yo. That was probably the 1:24:37.080 --> 1:24:40.679 most openest moment. It's like one of the most because 1:24:40.720 --> 1:24:43.400 I'm like, holy ship, who do I say how to first? 1:24:44.840 --> 1:24:46.360 If I say how, the one is, the other one 1:24:46.479 --> 1:24:48.760 is gonna. But that was so amicable. It was the 1:24:48.880 --> 1:24:52.720 exact opposite of what took place on the internet. Let 1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:56.160 me say something. What's something you said? My choosing sides? 1:24:56.200 --> 1:24:58.679 You know what I'm saying, and you ain't saying about yourself. 1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:00.880 You just said like people had to do with that's 1:25:00.920 --> 1:25:05.880 fake ship though when people do that, man, First of all, 1:25:07.240 --> 1:25:09.639 there's no size, bro, it's right and wrong. Right, that's 1:25:09.680 --> 1:25:13.160 one thing. And number two instead of choosing the side 1:25:13.200 --> 1:25:16.960 man like me me, I don't choose sides with family, 1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:19.479 especially if you're family. I don't choose sides with family. 1:25:19.840 --> 1:25:23.719 I try to fix it. If I can't, I'm manya business. 1:25:24.840 --> 1:25:27.479 If you if you call yourself family, you either fix 1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:30.080 it or maya. But you don't choose a side. How 1:25:30.120 --> 1:25:31.680 the funk? I look like choosing the side with my 1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:36.920 family members. And it's no size, it's right or wrong. Like, 1:25:37.080 --> 1:25:39.040 that's fake ship, bro. When you because when you choose 1:25:39.040 --> 1:25:40.800 the side, you know what you're about to do. You're 1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:42.679 about to try to call yourself rolling with the strength 1:25:43.680 --> 1:25:46.960 the fuck got here? Man, I mean that's weak ship, 1:25:48.000 --> 1:25:50.080 all right, you hold me in. Come on, come on 1:25:53.840 --> 1:26:06.360 grave my nigga see shoots on last should Yeah, you're 1:26:06.360 --> 1:26:08.800 gonna have to share. I ain't gonna the camera, Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah, 1:26:09.000 --> 1:26:12.240 it's good man. My nigga locked in the studio with me, 1:26:12.600 --> 1:26:16.519 recorded that whole project. Man super producer, Man Easy do 1:26:16.760 --> 1:26:25.320 either do Man Win Records. Man. Man, it's a movement. 1:26:25.760 --> 1:26:32.880 There's getting a lot of money over there. My brother 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:36.439 came up. So let me ask you before we get 1:26:36.479 --> 1:26:39.920 into dig back into the album and the beat. So, like, 1:26:40.120 --> 1:26:42.759 to me, your last relationship like if y'all had an argument, 1:26:43.200 --> 1:26:47.439 y'all a rap battle. No, man, I never happened in 1:26:47.560 --> 1:26:49.639 your mind. That's what you in my mind and my mind. 1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:52.560 So to me, in my mind and this new relationship, 1:26:52.640 --> 1:26:55.840 you can't even are you Like, I ain't gonna lie. 1:26:56.080 --> 1:27:12.360 You can't even you got that's shout to my queen. Man, 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:15.360 that's my best friend right there. I love a lot man, 1:27:16.160 --> 1:27:19.320 real bro, like real talk. She did you too, bro, 1:27:20.640 --> 1:27:26.400 Make some noise for that man, she makeing she make 1:27:26.479 --> 1:27:30.800 it known. Let it be known like he running the show, 1:27:31.320 --> 1:27:33.200 like you know, I mean women in that position ain't 1:27:33.200 --> 1:27:35.040 gonna do that. Let it be known like now I 1:27:35.120 --> 1:27:39.599 follow his lead as a woman, but should and I'll 1:27:39.600 --> 1:27:41.280 be talking like me, it's not gonna talk. You know 1:27:41.280 --> 1:27:43.960 what I'm saying. He tells me everything he said, tell 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:46.240 me behind the scenes. It's a good thing when you 1:27:46.360 --> 1:27:48.240 see it. But when you check the temperature of people 1:27:48.320 --> 1:27:50.400 that knew you for a long time, they saying the 1:27:50.479 --> 1:27:54.720 same thing out instart looking out. So he outside looking 1:27:54.760 --> 1:27:57.000 at he like your pattern the way she you know 1:27:57.040 --> 1:27:58.960 what I'm saying, The way she like everything he just said. 1:27:59.439 --> 1:28:02.000 I want like you was on your phone in the airport. 1:28:02.040 --> 1:28:03.920 I was on my phone too, and I was just 1:28:03.960 --> 1:28:06.600 scrolling and the first thing the person said was you 1:28:06.680 --> 1:28:09.439 gotta you gotta tattoo a pool. She said, yeah, on 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:20.360 my tity. She surprised me with that. She surprised when 1:28:20.600 --> 1:28:22.360 she was doing the interview to my said, yo, did 1:28:22.400 --> 1:28:28.200 you get tap pattern? You're gonna get tapoos tattered on breaking. 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:31.280 I got you, I got you. I'm come on here. 1:28:32.439 --> 1:28:34.080 She was like, yeah, I got it on my titty, 1:28:34.160 --> 1:28:39.760 Like skip a beat, like yeah, that was you don't 1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:41.720 remember when she was weighing in and the little kid 1:28:41.880 --> 1:28:45.240 kept looking at her. Oh yeah, yeah, it's crazy out there. 1:28:46.600 --> 1:28:50.479 It's crazy. One day I came out to gym and 1:28:50.560 --> 1:28:52.479 me I was on FaceTime. I got a video of 1:28:52.479 --> 1:28:56.519 that ship too. Since you and Bro, I'm talking to 1:28:56.560 --> 1:28:58.639 the FaceTime she just flashed it. I was like, Oh, 1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:01.920 I was like totally surprised, like that ship right did? Though, 1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:14.000 that's fine. It needed Let me tell you something for real, bro, 1:29:14.479 --> 1:29:17.599 like a brotherfreshir in my life. So I don't tell 1:29:17.840 --> 1:29:20.640 how do you like? My best is different? Bro? So 1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:23.639 how do you bounce back? Though? Like? Right again, I'm 1:29:23.680 --> 1:29:25.600 not trying to get any your information, but this is 1:29:25.600 --> 1:29:28.559 the first time I kind of like stepped out publicly, right, 1:29:28.720 --> 1:29:30.759 and this is a big story, like as a journalist, 1:29:31.000 --> 1:29:33.600 So how do you go from from like from a 1:29:33.640 --> 1:29:36.880 place I'm I'm assuming a place of hurt to a 1:29:36.960 --> 1:29:42.080 place of joy? So like so quickly I didn't. It 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:45.760 just happened, Bro, Okay, I didn't plan it or nothing, man, 1:29:45.840 --> 1:29:47.360 It just it just happened at a you know what 1:29:47.400 --> 1:29:50.599 I'm saying, a duk time of my life, to be honest. 1:29:50.600 --> 1:29:54.280 You know what, I mean, you know, I don't got nothing. 1:29:54.280 --> 1:29:55.880 I don't got nothing bad to say. Man, I wish, 1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:58.040 I wish you are the best, you know what I mean? 1:29:58.120 --> 1:30:01.880 But you know I moved on and the man she 1:30:02.200 --> 1:30:05.200 came in my life, bro, and just like, definitely man, 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:07.560 one of the best things that ever happened to me, 1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:09.400 you know what I mean. But to answer your question, 1:30:09.840 --> 1:30:12.080 I didn't. I can't even tell you because it happened 1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:14.880 so natural and organic and it wasn't playing like we 1:30:15.000 --> 1:30:16.680 just met after I was at a fight. I went 1:30:16.720 --> 1:30:19.639 to the Chicall fight in Jersey, and when I came 1:30:19.680 --> 1:30:21.000 in the building. First of all, I was always a 1:30:21.000 --> 1:30:22.960 fan of I'm a big boxing fan, you know what 1:30:23.000 --> 1:30:25.280 I mean. So I gotta tell you that. Sean too 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:27.439 will tell you that. I mean. I'm a big boxing fan. 1:30:27.520 --> 1:30:29.519 So I always watched her coming up. But one day 1:30:29.520 --> 1:30:30.800 I went to the Cha Court fight and as I'm 1:30:30.800 --> 1:30:33.000 going to sit down, I see her over it and 1:30:33.040 --> 1:30:35.439 I'm like, oh shit, because it's the ship. But you know, 1:30:35.479 --> 1:30:36.720 you keep it in your mind. You don't want to 1:30:36.760 --> 1:30:39.760 be grouped out, you know what I'm saying. And a 1:30:39.800 --> 1:30:41.439 lot of people was asking me for pictures and ship, 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:42.559 but I went up to her. I was like, hey, 1:30:42.640 --> 1:30:44.320 know how you doing. I shook her hand and when 1:30:44.320 --> 1:30:46.439 I sat down when she had to fight, she loud 1:30:46.439 --> 1:30:49.080 as a motherfucker because runs shod. They like family. So 1:30:49.200 --> 1:30:51.439 she she's screaming and ship and were talking about the fight. 1:30:51.800 --> 1:30:54.120 So when we leaving, people like rushing out for pictures 1:30:54.160 --> 1:30:57.040 and shit, and she by herself. So I'm like, hold on, man, like, 1:30:57.240 --> 1:31:08.360 hold on, man, take time, you know, security, immediately reflict 1:31:08.400 --> 1:31:10.640 and she's like, yo, come to my next fight. So 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:15.920 like you ain't get the number now, okay, I want 1:31:15.960 --> 1:31:17.639 you to come to my next fight, and then made 1:31:17.720 --> 1:31:21.200 you work for it, talking about she sent me information 1:31:21.320 --> 1:31:23.559 to the fights them me and info to the fight, 1:31:23.960 --> 1:31:26.880 and I went to the fight, and leading up to 1:31:26.960 --> 1:31:28.439 it though we some kind of way when we DM 1:31:28.560 --> 1:31:30.920 we changed numbers and yo, bro, I'll tell you we 1:31:31.000 --> 1:31:33.439 text every day. We never called each other. But let 1:31:33.479 --> 1:31:35.280 me ask you, just texting, what happened if you went 1:31:35.320 --> 1:31:38.040 to the fight and she lost, but you have kept going. 1:31:38.080 --> 1:31:38.920 We're not gonna lose, bro. 1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:40.559 It's like. 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:47.840 I'm telling what she lost, Like would you I'm gonna 1:31:47.880 --> 1:32:00.360 keep going? Absolutely, I would have kept going. Roman was right. 1:32:00.720 --> 1:32:04.519 One Bros. Clarissa ships like she don't lose. That's one 1:32:05.160 --> 1:32:07.479 and then the second thing, Hell, yah ain't no sucker, man, 1:32:07.560 --> 1:32:10.519 you take it. I'm leaving now. We don't do that. 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:17.800 That's real ship. That's funny question for what you said something. 1:32:18.160 --> 1:32:24.439 Yeah I did, but he made me maybe. But let's 1:32:24.439 --> 1:32:26.800 get into this album man. The creation of this album yeah, 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:27.840 Sean two. 1:32:28.360 --> 1:32:31.280 Yeah, the album man, it's crazy. You know, the process 1:32:31.439 --> 1:32:34.280 was dope, it was organic. You know, I'm a big 1:32:34.360 --> 1:32:38.120 fan of hip hop. I'm from Mississippi, but I say, 1:32:38.240 --> 1:32:40.679 you know, you know, I always wanted to hear pap 1:32:40.800 --> 1:32:43.240 on Jay Diller type of be you know what I'm saying, 1:32:43.280 --> 1:32:46.479 because he always been lyricals. So that's what Chill Button 1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:48.960 was like. You know, I was like, Yo, you got 1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:53.160 wing though the shout out left him, man, shout that 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:56.040 my brother left from Compton. Man, come from Mississippi, but 1:32:56.080 --> 1:32:59.280 he based in Kelly. You know, so my brother left 1:32:59.360 --> 1:33:00.519 you from the West coast. 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:04.000 Man. That's a solid individual. Man. He basically introduced us. 1:33:04.080 --> 1:33:05.519 He came to me one day because you know, I 1:33:05.640 --> 1:33:09.479 was doing the executive thing. But no in New York 1:33:09.640 --> 1:33:11.720 like Lefty flow out here. He like y'all want you 1:33:11.760 --> 1:33:14.160 to meet this artist, which was Kadisha, the one who 1:33:14.240 --> 1:33:16.439 you asked me about that on my project, Like, y'all 1:33:16.479 --> 1:33:18.120 want you to meet this artist, And we took the meeting. 1:33:18.120 --> 1:33:19.880 I went to Brooklyn chop House that's my second home, 1:33:20.240 --> 1:33:22.400 and they met me the chop House in Miami as well. 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:27.439 And make a long story, shure I said. When I 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:29.680 came to the meeting, it was my brother Sean too, 1:33:29.800 --> 1:33:32.559 my brother Big Rube in Kadija and we sat down 1:33:32.600 --> 1:33:34.760 and we talked. Because I was always I'm always helping 1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:37.120 new artists out. Man, like the ship that we've been through, 1:33:37.439 --> 1:33:40.040 I tried to prevent them from going through the same shit, bro, 1:33:40.840 --> 1:33:42.880 and whatever advice I could give, I was just giving 1:33:42.920 --> 1:33:45.360 them genuine advice. And we started to work together. And 1:33:45.400 --> 1:33:46.559 I've seen that a lot of things that they were 1:33:46.600 --> 1:33:48.880 trying to do, I knew how to do it. So 1:33:49.000 --> 1:33:50.840 it's all about adding on it if you got knowledge 1:33:50.880 --> 1:33:52.479 of SELP. So I just started adding on to what 1:33:52.560 --> 1:33:55.000 they was doing and we locked in. We just started 1:33:55.040 --> 1:33:57.000 elevating winning records and here we all, man, we're doing 1:33:57.240 --> 1:33:59.880 concerts across the planet. We got the short fume out. 1:34:00.000 --> 1:34:02.000 We just did a big deal with Clarissa. You know 1:34:02.000 --> 1:34:04.519 what I'm saying, eight million dollar deal. I'm not bragging, 1:34:04.600 --> 1:34:11.000 but yeah. Well, basically, Clarissa found herself man in a 1:34:11.120 --> 1:34:13.400 position where she was in the bidding war because her 1:34:13.479 --> 1:34:16.560 contract ended with the previous entity that she was signed to. 1:34:17.080 --> 1:34:18.439 So I want to say this to you and make 1:34:18.479 --> 1:34:23.680 it clear every boxing entity may offers to her, from 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:26.080 the biggest to the smallest. I literally set in these 1:34:26.160 --> 1:34:29.840 meetings with her and my team. I see what we've 1:34:29.840 --> 1:34:32.320 been doing. We put a lot of asses in seats 1:34:32.360 --> 1:34:34.360 with these concerts, Like you know what I'm saying. So 1:34:34.439 --> 1:34:36.320 I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like, damn, oh, 1:34:36.479 --> 1:34:38.840 so that was young. Yeah, I'm like, yo, game in 1:34:38.880 --> 1:34:42.520 boxing people don't yo, bro. I'm sitting there, I'm brainstorming. 1:34:42.520 --> 1:34:54.880 I'm like, I'm brainstorm I'm like yo. But anyway, I'm 1:34:54.920 --> 1:34:56.920 looking at how were able to put asses and seats, 1:34:56.920 --> 1:34:58.559 and I'm looking at what she doing as a fighter. 1:34:58.640 --> 1:35:01.080 I'm like, yo, if we come to together, it'd be crazy. 1:35:01.960 --> 1:35:05.000 So her last fight, which was in Detroit, we came 1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:10.080 together and we saw that motherfuck out. So that was confirmation. Yeah, 1:35:10.400 --> 1:35:12.240 I said, we're gonna do this one right, and let's 1:35:12.240 --> 1:35:14.280 see what happened. So a lot of times when I 1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:16.800 hate giving games to these niggas, but but I'm gonna 1:35:16.800 --> 1:35:19.360 give it to him a lot of times when you watched, 1:35:19.479 --> 1:35:21.639 when you go to fights, our artists just pop out 1:35:22.479 --> 1:35:24.439 and you never knew they was gonna be there, so 1:35:25.280 --> 1:35:27.240 you don't get the opportunity for their fan base to 1:35:27.320 --> 1:35:30.080 come out. So what we did the last event shot 1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:32.560 to my brother Rick Ross. We added Rick Ross to 1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:34.479 the to the event, and we was able to promote 1:35:34.520 --> 1:35:36.559 him with the event and one of his strongest markets, 1:35:36.600 --> 1:35:40.320 which is Detroit. So we got Rick Ross, we got Flissa, 1:35:40.400 --> 1:35:43.280 we got myself and her opponent was that shit so 1:35:43.400 --> 1:35:45.799 loud of what sold that mother fuck out to capacity? 1:35:45.880 --> 1:35:48.160 You know what I'm saying. So but I was about that. 1:35:48.320 --> 1:35:51.400 So the next tiebout to sing February twenty second, Little 1:35:51.439 --> 1:35:53.479 Seasons a ringa Clarissa will be stepping back in the 1:35:53.560 --> 1:36:00.519 ring her debut pro debut debut. Yeah yeah, yeah, already 1:36:00.560 --> 1:36:04.439 make woman. She's a good box, she can fight. And 1:36:04.560 --> 1:36:07.040 so Little Seesuons is where it's in the traits. Little 1:36:07.080 --> 1:36:09.960 Sesus is called Little Seesons Arena. Yeah, a piece of shop, 1:36:10.400 --> 1:36:13.080 not this arena, man, we would love to have yea 1:36:13.160 --> 1:36:16.760 yea yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Can you 1:36:16.840 --> 1:36:28.960 make sure the crowd with the six niggas in the crowd, 1:36:30.720 --> 1:36:33.920 six niggas throw your hands up, but not February twenty 1:36:33.960 --> 1:36:35.320 seconds she stepped back in the ring. You don't want 1:36:35.320 --> 1:36:37.880 to miss it. Get your tickets there. So I want 1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:42.000 to go jog miles with a workout with her. Oh 1:36:42.080 --> 1:36:44.200 yeah yeah yeah, yeah, she's a beast. So what what 1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:48.080 do you like more? Making the record or performing the record? Oh? 1:36:48.960 --> 1:36:52.599 I would have to say. That's a tough one. Man. 1:36:53.479 --> 1:37:08.840 That's tough, right you Like that's tough as fuck'mna say 1:37:09.000 --> 1:37:11.080 I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say creating the record. Okay, 1:37:11.360 --> 1:37:13.720 creating the record, I want to know how about you? 1:37:13.880 --> 1:37:15.400 Let me let me ask you. That's a hall like 1:37:15.760 --> 1:37:17.680 that's a hard one because you love to hear your 1:37:17.680 --> 1:37:20.120 own once you once you finished with the record, you know, 1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:23.080 it's fire like all that nigga, you pat patch yourself 1:37:23.120 --> 1:37:25.080 on the back. But when you see the reaction from 1:37:25.120 --> 1:37:30.600 other people, it's like the confirmation like energy, Yeah, that 1:37:30.800 --> 1:37:34.200 that energy different Like I love performing, I love before 1:37:34.240 --> 1:37:37.559 I would divide the edge, I say performing because because 1:37:37.600 --> 1:37:39.599 nobody's in there when you make it's only your peoples 1:37:39.640 --> 1:37:41.560 in the producer. But when you you give it to 1:37:41.640 --> 1:37:44.559 the world and they're like oh, but when you hear back, 1:37:44.640 --> 1:37:49.320 you be like, oh, I did that? Like kill about 1:37:49.800 --> 1:37:52.800 that because of course, like when I'm working like Has, 1:37:52.880 --> 1:37:55.000 Like when I work with Has, it has to do 1:37:55.120 --> 1:37:57.559 some ship like he'll go, he'll mix it and he'll 1:37:57.600 --> 1:38:01.720 go in the car and help play it from the car. 1:38:02.040 --> 1:38:03.600 And the only time I ever see somebody do that 1:38:03.680 --> 1:38:06.160 it was Swiss Beasts. Swiss Beasts used to come and 1:38:06.280 --> 1:38:08.200 this is before a bootlegging, you know what I'm saying. 1:38:08.280 --> 1:38:10.320 So every record I ever kind of did with Swiss Beat, 1:38:10.360 --> 1:38:11.960 Swiss Beast would take this ship and he was like, 1:38:12.000 --> 1:38:13.680 you're coming me to a club and I'm like for 1:38:13.840 --> 1:38:16.360 what and he like, we're gonna test this motherfucker out. 1:38:16.360 --> 1:38:20.800 I'm like, mix, mixed, it's not nothing. And Swiss will 1:38:20.800 --> 1:38:22.880 go in the club and he wouldn't announce it. He 1:38:23.040 --> 1:38:24.720 just play the record and just look at people. And 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:28.000 I'm like, it's before bootlegs, just before the phones and 1:38:28.040 --> 1:38:31.400 all that. So I said, have to say, I wouldn't 1:38:31.400 --> 1:38:35.160 be able to pick because from like the method that 1:38:35.280 --> 1:38:37.200 has does when he goes in the car, he listens 1:38:37.360 --> 1:38:39.640 to the record as opposed the Swiss goes and he 1:38:39.720 --> 1:38:42.760 goes and see the people live in real action. It's 1:38:42.800 --> 1:38:45.479 like loading a gun. For me, It's like the gun 1:38:45.640 --> 1:38:49.040 is dope, it's beautiful. I like the bullet is in it, 1:38:49.320 --> 1:38:51.800 but I'm not gonna love it till I pull that 1:38:51.880 --> 1:39:02.160 trigger and I feel that. So that's what it is like, 1:39:02.880 --> 1:39:05.840 Like I would have never I would have never loved 1:39:05.880 --> 1:39:10.240 super Doug because I sorry to get into my artists 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:14.200 right the War Report to tell you the truth and 1:39:14.280 --> 1:39:17.160 this is real ship the War Report, every beat was 1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:20.160 t o n why in they and why multiply? So 1:39:20.960 --> 1:39:24.960 I purposely wanted I wanted to be like, yo, you 1:39:25.000 --> 1:39:27.000 know what I'm saying, like we we we we we 1:39:27.160 --> 1:39:29.479 hype in New York too, like we just and you know, 1:39:29.560 --> 1:39:31.560 we gotta realize, Na, this is the corporate at this 1:39:31.640 --> 1:39:33.720 time used to head. So everybody wants to kind of 1:39:33.840 --> 1:39:36.640 like and that's where killing what came from, kind of 1:39:36.720 --> 1:39:40.479 like to because like these Queensbridge dudes who I was 1:39:40.600 --> 1:39:42.880 signed to, they're not smooth people. I don't know why 1:39:42.960 --> 1:39:51.400 it was on the mic like everybody around them, it's 1:39:51.520 --> 1:39:54.120 just not lading the pavement, and everybody kind of like 1:39:54.200 --> 1:39:57.240 had to follow that. And that's why I was just 1:39:57.280 --> 1:39:57.840 like what what what? 1:39:58.040 --> 1:39:58.320 What what? 1:39:58.520 --> 1:39:59.840 Because that was different, you know what I'm saying. But 1:40:00.760 --> 1:40:03.120 if I had to, as long as the record is 1:40:03.160 --> 1:40:08.040 that half a hit, I'll picked performance. I remember this 1:40:08.200 --> 1:40:11.080 actual footage of this super Dog, this actual footage of 1:40:11.080 --> 1:40:13.280 This super Dog when it first came out and the 1:40:13.400 --> 1:40:16.519 number one market was Philadelphia, and I go out there, 1:40:16.520 --> 1:40:19.120 I go, I perform everything to you why they love it? 1:40:19.200 --> 1:40:21.960 And r E they love it? Before Super Doug has 1:40:22.000 --> 1:40:25.880 never came out? What what what? You know? What the 1:40:26.920 --> 1:40:29.680 I got to come back three months later? Boy, it's 1:40:29.720 --> 1:40:33.400 a different thing. Number one record, That's what I like. 1:40:33.640 --> 1:40:36.000 Sometimes you you you bust, you bust. Let me not 1:40:36.080 --> 1:40:38.960 pointed that nobody. Sometimes you bust a gun and and 1:40:39.240 --> 1:40:41.600 and you missed totally, so you want to bust it 1:40:41.640 --> 1:40:43.800 against That's the reason why I performance. I'm gonna leave 1:40:43.840 --> 1:40:46.240 a little bit more towards performance. But once the record 1:40:46.320 --> 1:40:48.120 is a hit, because if you gotta you know so. 1:40:48.320 --> 1:40:51.679 I remember one time I did the show with David 1:40:51.760 --> 1:40:54.760 Banner and you know, all my records like you said, 1:40:55.360 --> 1:40:59.080 Oh yeah, pain in my Life and it's day in 1:40:59.160 --> 1:41:03.040 the South. I don't know why they had me headlining 1:41:03.160 --> 1:41:13.200 over this and Nigga wan the Boy, the whole crowd is. 1:41:13.880 --> 1:41:15.639 I'm like, we might as well just leave. I'm telling 1:41:15.720 --> 1:41:20.519 niggas we ain't got nothing. I don't got nothing in 1:41:20.560 --> 1:41:25.360 the change. I got no kind of energy. Song was 1:41:25.479 --> 1:41:28.120 where was your We was in fucking like North Carolina. 1:41:28.240 --> 1:41:32.200 Something nigga set me up. I said, Yo, what the 1:41:32.520 --> 1:41:35.599 And that's why I remember one time I sent pat 1:41:35.640 --> 1:41:38.840 Poosa song. It was some kids like roll By, I 1:41:38.880 --> 1:41:50.960 did it. He was like, nah, Son Nigga was like, nah, 1:41:51.800 --> 1:41:57.360 this killing yourself right now. But I'm like, in my mind, 1:41:57.400 --> 1:42:00.559 I'm thinking now I need something everything big. They booked 1:42:00.560 --> 1:42:07.559 me for a birthday party just do the didn't advantage 1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:09.640 of that ship, and I was like, I'll never let 1:42:09.680 --> 1:42:11.960 a nigga do this to me again. I had. I 1:42:12.040 --> 1:42:13.600 really had to get my back end. I had to 1:42:13.720 --> 1:42:16.680 go on after that ship. He just and I called 1:42:16.720 --> 1:42:19.720 him like pain in my life. Young Police was on, 1:42:20.560 --> 1:42:26.360 get the fun out of here, like, nah, we gotta 1:42:26.360 --> 1:42:26.960 be equipped. 1:42:27.040 --> 1:42:27.240 Man. 1:42:28.400 --> 1:42:30.320 Hip hop is a beautiful thing. Bro. You ever got 1:42:30.360 --> 1:42:35.000 bull hand though, thank god I got. I ain't gonna lie. 1:42:35.040 --> 1:42:37.240 I did it, bro, I take. I would be honest 1:42:37.760 --> 1:42:41.400 versus getting bulled. You know, it's worse getting nothing nothing 1:42:42.280 --> 1:42:52.560 nothing nothing, you know some kind of motion yo that 1:42:54.840 --> 1:42:58.320 when I get to steal, I do cut the meat off. 1:42:58.800 --> 1:43:07.840 I just do alphabetical if I would just keep going 1:43:07.920 --> 1:43:19.000 like yaf so so what what? What? What is something 1:43:19.040 --> 1:43:21.559 that you can't live without in the game, in the game, 1:43:21.800 --> 1:43:25.000 and like making an album? Excuse me? Oh both for 1:43:25.120 --> 1:43:31.800 y'all gonna go first. That's tough. Mm hmm. I would 1:43:31.840 --> 1:43:34.639 say that I can't live without one in the studio, 1:43:34.800 --> 1:43:38.000 like in the studio, yes, amazing, Okay, I gotta have 1:43:38.080 --> 1:43:41.479 a keyboard man. Time to time to think, man. I 1:43:41.840 --> 1:43:44.640 like to think my ship through. Unfortunately, I want to 1:43:44.720 --> 1:43:46.280 be trying to change that like some people like your pa. 1:43:46.520 --> 1:43:48.400 Just you know what I'm saying, Let it flow, But 1:43:48.479 --> 1:43:50.280 I like to think it through. I think if I 1:43:50.320 --> 1:43:52.240 go to the studio and I and I'm rushed, like 1:43:52.280 --> 1:43:54.720 I didn't have time to think about my ship, I don't. 1:43:54.960 --> 1:43:57.840 I'm not crazy about the outcome. I would just say 1:43:57.880 --> 1:44:02.439 a peace of mind, man, I personally can't I don't 1:44:02.520 --> 1:44:05.360 like people in the studio when I record, like exactly 1:44:06.640 --> 1:44:09.320 you want the people there. I don't want nobody more 1:44:09.360 --> 1:44:11.559 than just a couple of people, you know, one person 1:44:11.720 --> 1:44:14.000 for face. If I'm in the booth, they might not 1:44:14.080 --> 1:44:16.439 even be listening, but you know how you could see 1:44:16.520 --> 1:44:19.240 outside the booth and what you're doing your It could 1:44:19.240 --> 1:44:22.160 be one nigga who throw me off like he ain't 1:44:22.200 --> 1:44:25.800 feeling it, and I'm thinking it ain't it ain't working. 1:44:26.280 --> 1:44:27.840 That's why I started saying, you know what, I'd better 1:44:28.000 --> 1:44:31.120 just do it how I like it, And then didn't 1:44:31.160 --> 1:44:34.040 see because this nigga fucked me up just in the studio. 1:44:34.520 --> 1:44:36.360 He might be on his phone mine in his business 1:44:36.680 --> 1:44:38.840 and I'm like, why he ain't bopping his head. I 1:44:40.240 --> 1:44:48.920 don't like niggas like that studio like that. You want 1:44:48.960 --> 1:44:50.400 to be on the stage with you and you just 1:44:50.840 --> 1:45:02.640 standing there too, act like you like this shit. I 1:45:02.720 --> 1:45:06.360 heard Premiere say recently. He said thirty years ago that 1:45:06.479 --> 1:45:08.840 he recorded with nas and there's thirty people in the 1:45:08.880 --> 1:45:11.000 studio and now you be causing no, its just him, 1:45:11.000 --> 1:45:14.120 and you know it's so funny twenty five years ago, 1:45:14.320 --> 1:45:16.240 twenty five years ago. If you listen to blood Money. 1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:19.599 I got people in the background. That's if you listened 1:45:19.600 --> 1:45:21.400 to me in the studio last week. I got people 1:45:21.479 --> 1:45:25.360 in the fucking background. It makes me I'm organized chaos. 1:45:25.880 --> 1:45:28.080 I like it. I like it very organized, but I 1:45:28.240 --> 1:45:31.960 like it to be very unorganized. Your comfort zone. But 1:45:32.040 --> 1:45:34.400 you don't go a lot though, because these niggas don't 1:45:34.400 --> 1:45:36.120 show up all the time. No, no, no, every time 1:45:36.160 --> 1:45:38.720 I go to the studio, I've never been to make sure. Yeah, yeah, 1:45:39.120 --> 1:45:42.400 it's very seldomly like maybe I went to the rest 1:45:43.040 --> 1:45:47.519 studio for myself. Your music is organized chaos, yes, what 1:45:47.640 --> 1:45:47.800 it is? 1:45:48.080 --> 1:45:48.400 What it is? 1:45:49.680 --> 1:45:54.160 Actually? Yeah? Yeah. Have you ever seen a kid online 1:45:54.160 --> 1:46:05.080 who you Yeah? Absolutely your body you know. It was 1:46:05.120 --> 1:46:10.320 his da was his name? Something about bro. I love that. 1:46:10.760 --> 1:46:15.960 Take a lot of niggasn't probably know what you came 1:46:16.800 --> 1:46:21.320 he he does, Man pop can't want that nigga. Yeah 1:46:22.960 --> 1:46:27.680 that's and then now he put niggas you know you 1:46:32.400 --> 1:46:42.800 again said all the many like that us you mocking 1:46:42.840 --> 1:46:44.960 the drake, But no, you're doing good. You know it's 1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:50.439 it's great. It's homage to what I'm saying. This one right, 1:46:50.840 --> 1:46:55.000 you keep watching it. He didn't use the AI face 1:46:55.080 --> 1:46:58.120 because I robbed it the first time. This is his 1:46:58.240 --> 1:46:59.679 fourth time. Yeah, you're. 1:47:04.600 --> 1:47:04.760 Got. 1:47:04.840 --> 1:47:08.080 I got it, they were saying it to all of us. 1:47:09.360 --> 1:47:12.320 I got When I go on the booth, I always 1:47:12.320 --> 1:47:16.320 turn the light out. Oh yeah, no judgment. No see, 1:47:16.439 --> 1:47:17.720 I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know. 1:47:17.720 --> 1:47:21.559 I don't know how I developed that. Oh yeah, but okay, 1:47:21.640 --> 1:47:23.920 so we both named the one thing you ain't name yours. 1:47:24.200 --> 1:47:27.200 You said, you said instruments, said I need a piece 1:47:27.240 --> 1:47:29.639 of mind, need to piece of mind, and you said 1:47:29.800 --> 1:47:37.400 no nobody. In the end, nobody exactly. That's all I need. 1:47:39.400 --> 1:47:41.600 You know, it's crazy, and I'm sorry to change the 1:47:41.640 --> 1:47:47.559 subject a little bit. One didn't even have the luxury 1:47:48.000 --> 1:47:50.240 of not having anybody in the studio. You know, they 1:47:50.280 --> 1:47:53.880 still have to bring a couch, so his breath control, 1:47:54.760 --> 1:47:56.519 he had to have that breath control, you know what 1:47:56.520 --> 1:47:58.760 I'm saying, because he's sitting down in order for him, 1:47:58.800 --> 1:48:00.800 you know what I mean, Like big I've seen big 1:48:00.880 --> 1:48:05.760 lads vocals standing up. You must have some good engineers, 1:48:05.880 --> 1:48:07.960 because you would never know he was punching that much. 1:48:09.320 --> 1:48:13.760 Yeah yeah, and he was none electics for the most part. 1:48:14.160 --> 1:48:15.760 I don't think none of us could punch it in 1:48:15.920 --> 1:48:18.960 back then, like so he had to like tape because yeah, yeah, 1:48:19.520 --> 1:48:21.360 I feel like he had to do it, do the 1:48:21.439 --> 1:48:24.040 whole verse and then go in and then double it 1:48:24.160 --> 1:48:26.240 up and then go in and do it take the 1:48:26.280 --> 1:48:29.479 best part take Yeah. But you know, Pat, you know, 1:48:29.680 --> 1:48:32.120 our show was about giving people their flowers. Wanted to 1:48:32.160 --> 1:48:34.479 give your flowers. Wanted to tell you not only for 1:48:34.880 --> 1:48:37.479 being one of the greatest MC's, but you know, one 1:48:37.520 --> 1:48:40.080 of the greatest father figures, one of the greatest husbands, 1:48:40.320 --> 1:48:42.240 one of the greatest men on earth. We wanted to 1:48:42.320 --> 1:48:51.160 just give your flowers face to face man, and that 1:48:51.320 --> 1:48:56.479 project is phenomenal. Yeah, you don't drink and drive with us. Look, man, 1:48:56.520 --> 1:48:58.280 I just want to say thank you. May like being 1:48:58.320 --> 1:49:00.519 in this game a long time. I can't say I 1:49:00.560 --> 1:49:02.960 want a lot of awards, yes, and knowledgement, so I 1:49:03.000 --> 1:49:10.120 appreciate that. Yeah, I do want to create project. I 1:49:10.160 --> 1:49:13.880 think we deserve it. Do you got nominate me so 1:49:13.920 --> 1:49:17.880 I can say Grammy nominated. That's enough. You have to 1:49:17.920 --> 1:49:21.639 present your album to be Grammy nominated. Still, it's still 1:49:21.720 --> 1:49:25.120 like that, and you have to advocate forward to get 1:49:25.160 --> 1:49:27.200 somebody holler at me from the Grammys. I think I 1:49:27.320 --> 1:49:33.000 deserve it, Man ninth neither. So as a kid watching 1:49:33.040 --> 1:49:35.160 that ship, man, you know, it's just a childhood dream 1:49:35.160 --> 1:49:37.679 for me to win a Grammy. Grammy. Yeah, it ain't 1:49:37.680 --> 1:49:40.280 really no hip hop ship, but shout to the Grammys though, 1:49:43.320 --> 1:49:46.840 So how did you make these beasts? Man? You know what, 1:49:47.920 --> 1:49:50.400 I got a studio, I lock in and I just 1:49:51.640 --> 1:49:52.360 these particular beat. 1:49:53.000 --> 1:49:56.840 Okay, Papa give me, Papa, give me a direction, Like, yo, 1:49:57.040 --> 1:49:57.639 check this out. 1:49:57.960 --> 1:50:00.040 I'm like, okay, hold on, So you wrote the you 1:50:00.040 --> 1:50:01.760 wrote to rhymes first, and then you wanted him to 1:50:01.840 --> 1:50:04.960 match the beat. He's so dope that I said, damn 1:50:05.000 --> 1:50:06.560 it if I could just give him you know you 1:50:06.680 --> 1:50:08.800 hear producer and you be like that was dope, you 1:50:08.800 --> 1:50:10.680 know what I'm saying. But I just was like, Yo, 1:50:10.920 --> 1:50:12.720 if I could give him a little direction, it'd be 1:50:12.800 --> 1:50:16.040 fucking crazy, right. That was right, Bro was giving a 1:50:16.040 --> 1:50:18.000 little direction and he never felt. 1:50:18.280 --> 1:50:21.640 Yeah, you know, I'm a geminis, so my production is 1:50:21.680 --> 1:50:22.360 the same way. 1:50:26.280 --> 1:50:27.880 Everything person out of. 1:50:32.200 --> 1:50:34.040 So ship, I just like in like that, you know 1:50:34.080 --> 1:50:36.200 what I mean, Papa, give me a direction. I'm like okay, 1:50:36.800 --> 1:50:39.320 and I just go into that zone. You know, I 1:50:39.439 --> 1:50:41.240 never spent a lot of time in New York. Only 1:50:41.320 --> 1:50:43.960 when I'm like with him, besar, you know, but I 1:50:44.160 --> 1:50:45.960 just got into the zone that he was in the 1:50:46.040 --> 1:50:49.759 boom boom back. You know, I got respect for that genre, 1:50:50.160 --> 1:50:53.080 hip hop. You know, I got mad love for West 1:50:53.160 --> 1:50:55.240 Coast hip hop. Of course I'm from the South. 1:50:55.360 --> 1:50:55.880 You know what I mean. 1:50:55.960 --> 1:50:59.280 But like going in that era, it was a it 1:50:59.400 --> 1:51:02.000 was a it was a it was adult challenge because 1:51:02.000 --> 1:51:02.960 I ain't never went there. 1:51:03.120 --> 1:51:07.880 I'll tell you a funny story. So we got the project. 1:51:07.920 --> 1:51:10.040 We're working on the project. We got the big video 1:51:10.120 --> 1:51:15.280 shooting right well, actually we shooting Calling Green video. Okay, 1:51:18.280 --> 1:51:21.080 So the director we flew. We flew him in from Cali, 1:51:21.120 --> 1:51:22.960 everybody from everybody in from Canty. So I can get 1:51:22.960 --> 1:51:24.760 to the video. It's in New York. I get to 1:51:24.840 --> 1:51:26.960 the video. I'm looking around the ship. I don't see 1:51:26.960 --> 1:51:30.840 the director. So I said, yo, too, what the director 1:51:30.920 --> 1:51:35.000 is that? He's like, Yo, it's men, I see what happened. 1:51:35.200 --> 1:51:39.040 The fucking director he forgot he had his gun and 1:51:39.240 --> 1:51:45.080 got locked up. He got a gun license, but you 1:51:45.120 --> 1:51:47.800 don't give a and he locked him up. So this nigga, 1:51:47.840 --> 1:51:54.600 he directed the motherfucking video never did. He controlled the 1:51:54.640 --> 1:51:58.160 whole scene, so shocking to my niggas. You know, right, 1:51:58.600 --> 1:52:02.040 speaking of director Yoa, I was Pat Poos. You know 1:52:02.160 --> 1:52:05.040 we see him acting in his new joint. But our 1:52:05.160 --> 1:52:07.400 video was the first time we did the joy with 1:52:07.479 --> 1:52:13.360 Omar called Senner Bread. That's a fact had him. We 1:52:13.439 --> 1:52:15.680 had him acting with Omar like he was like, I 1:52:15.720 --> 1:52:17.880 ain't no fucking actor. I was like, these my nigga, 1:52:17.880 --> 1:52:19.280 we just got to get through this ship. That's the 1:52:19.360 --> 1:52:22.600 fact we're working with. He was a season actor and 1:52:22.680 --> 1:52:24.800 this nigga sitting there and looking real. I'm like, this 1:52:24.920 --> 1:52:30.639 nigga looks like he's serious. He's like words like you said, 1:52:33.320 --> 1:52:35.600 and I'm like, and the ship came out amazing, Like 1:52:35.640 --> 1:52:38.519 that's what I said. This is not real man, Pat Right, 1:52:38.880 --> 1:52:41.920 We like I said, we go. We got a history 1:52:42.000 --> 1:52:45.400 to goet New York mixtape, mixtape, that's a fact, mixtape DVD. 1:52:45.520 --> 1:52:48.280 Ever gonna know one thing that you told me one time, 1:52:48.439 --> 1:52:50.160 rest in Pac your uncle. I was about to just 1:52:50.200 --> 1:52:55.920 say that, Yeah, we did the first song case Slay 1:52:56.000 --> 1:52:57.920 did this ship. We did a song called head of 1:52:58.000 --> 1:53:01.040 State and he was like, your niggas ain't gonna beef 1:53:01.040 --> 1:53:03.640 your niggasnna work together like, which I wish New York 1:53:03.680 --> 1:53:06.240 could do more now because we could have easily went 1:53:06.320 --> 1:53:08.479 down that bro because I've seen a beef with other 1:53:08.560 --> 1:53:10.640 niggas from the town and I'm like, nah no, a 1:53:10.680 --> 1:53:13.680 lot more unity in New York now. Yeah, But back 1:53:13.720 --> 1:53:16.760 then it wasn't cool to you know, especially when when 1:53:16.800 --> 1:53:20.240 the tsunami came and so me and son working so 1:53:21.080 --> 1:53:23.439 years later we did that song. We did many many men. 1:53:23.479 --> 1:53:26.439 We did a bunch of songs. But his uncles in 1:53:26.520 --> 1:53:28.800 rest in Headston peace man. Yeah, he said, Yo, you 1:53:28.840 --> 1:53:32.360 know that was my uncle's favorite songs I did. My 1:53:32.560 --> 1:53:35.040 life was a wild dude. Man rest in peace, my uncle. 1:53:35.080 --> 1:53:37.760 But it's so crazy anytime you see that nigga, he 1:53:37.840 --> 1:53:40.840 busts out and singing a song, but he's singing sagon verse. 1:53:47.720 --> 1:53:50.760 I'm happy for my You don't understand being sung like. 1:53:51.240 --> 1:53:52.840 It was to the point where I'm like, damn, me 1:53:52.960 --> 1:53:55.320 and Son because I had abandon nation, he had Nation 1:53:55.439 --> 1:54:00.519 and thug ocation like nigga were too similar and we've 1:54:00.560 --> 1:54:03.200 got the Brooklyn everything was like. But then it was like, 1:54:03.520 --> 1:54:06.360 you know what this niggas stand up nigga like Pat 1:54:06.680 --> 1:54:09.640 and easy to block clamp one thing, the easy to 1:54:09.680 --> 1:54:11.720 block ship because I've seen you hit that punching bag 1:54:11.880 --> 1:54:15.880 that you know what I said, if he one of 1:54:15.920 --> 1:54:22.600 them ships couldn't have been one of them that you 1:54:22.720 --> 1:54:26.759 have seen it. You know that you see the numbers 1:54:26.800 --> 1:54:34.520 come up. I don't want to hit to a thousand. 1:54:36.800 --> 1:54:43.360 That all that all rope, that all rope crazy. So 1:54:43.480 --> 1:54:45.200 you guys said there's a part two to this already 1:54:45.960 --> 1:54:48.080 you're working on it now. It's going to crazy. Man. 1:54:48.120 --> 1:54:49.400 I would tell you to open the scene, but I 1:54:49.400 --> 1:54:51.040 don't want to give it away. So where can they 1:54:51.120 --> 1:54:55.720 find a project and videos? A yeah? Well, the the 1:54:56.240 --> 1:54:59.320 actual project is of course Spotify, Apple Music. The visual 1:54:59.440 --> 1:55:03.360 was on to be million right now you millions million? 1:55:03.760 --> 1:55:07.280 So the visuals one short film? Right like a short film? Yeah, man, 1:55:07.360 --> 1:55:09.960 Like I'm telling you, bro, like really, I was really 1:55:10.000 --> 1:55:11.760 trying to get that ship. Like when I permitted, I 1:55:11.800 --> 1:55:14.560 permitted in the movie did like I wanted to do 1:55:14.680 --> 1:55:16.800 something different, bro, and just add on to to what 1:55:16.880 --> 1:55:18.160 we do in hip hop. You know what I'm saying. 1:55:18.720 --> 1:55:20.320 We took our time, We took baby steps, like a 1:55:20.400 --> 1:55:22.240 year and a half working on the acting more. Bro 1:55:22.480 --> 1:55:24.840 should act more. Bro, Well you're good at You're good 1:55:24.880 --> 1:55:26.640 at that ship, like even when we doing Siner's Prayer, 1:55:27.000 --> 1:55:28.760 because you know, I'm on a new show with Shock. 1:55:29.080 --> 1:55:31.080 I got to know you want to throw that out 1:55:31.120 --> 1:55:44.440 there myself more to a couple of y'all. Y'all seen like, yeah, 1:55:44.560 --> 1:55:48.880 main things on it. Big Daddy came, Yeah, and it's 1:55:49.080 --> 1:55:51.480 it's the Mob show. It ain't. You don't let's sho 1:55:51.600 --> 1:56:00.839 grab your head though. Hell God, kept want no nonse 1:56:03.800 --> 1:56:08.120 another side something, But yeah, man, Like like I said earlier, Man, 1:56:08.520 --> 1:56:10.800 I'm real happy about how to wait and I tell 1:56:10.840 --> 1:56:13.200 him tell them this behind the scenes, like the way 1:56:13.240 --> 1:56:14.360 they're receiving the project. 1:56:14.440 --> 1:56:14.520 Bro. 1:56:14.640 --> 1:56:18.360 Pause you know what I'm saying. Sometimes as creatives we 1:56:18.480 --> 1:56:20.720 have a vision when we make our music and like, yeah, 1:56:20.760 --> 1:56:22.560 wait till they hear this and you put it out 1:56:22.680 --> 1:56:24.800 and they don't receive it that way. Man, the love 1:56:24.840 --> 1:56:27.840 I'm getting off this project, I feel real good. Deserve it. 1:56:28.240 --> 1:56:31.240 I'm happy about it. Man. So like I said, it's 1:56:31.280 --> 1:56:35.040 independent but distributed through United Mass distributed to the United 1:56:35.120 --> 1:56:38.840 Masters slash Win Records. I mean, we we a machine, man. 1:56:38.920 --> 1:56:41.160 You know, I'm tired of being humble. We wanted the 1:56:41.200 --> 1:56:43.640 best doing it right now. We wanted the best on 1:56:43.720 --> 1:56:46.560 the music side. On the sports side, we signed a 1:56:46.640 --> 1:56:49.520 lot of new fighters to win slash selet the promotions, 1:56:49.520 --> 1:56:52.560 so y'all will see me promoting fighters. Congratulations to the 1:56:52.600 --> 1:56:55.000 love of my life, Florissa Shields eight million dollar deal again. 1:56:55.600 --> 1:56:59.160 I gotta say it. You know what I'm saying. I'm 1:56:59.240 --> 1:57:02.840 just happy to be there positive things. Man, I talked 1:57:02.880 --> 1:57:06.440 my shirt and you're gonna cut me off here for 1:57:06.720 --> 1:57:14.560 I'm not allowed to talk. He called me last look ahead, 1:57:16.400 --> 1:57:20.200 no way, no go ahead. Now ever more arcade like 1:57:20.280 --> 1:57:21.960 I'm in a tech You know I've been in the tech. 1:57:22.040 --> 1:57:23.760 That's a fact. That hip hop my way, hip hop 1:57:23.840 --> 1:57:26.000 my way. Yuh. I got music my Way. The new 1:57:26.040 --> 1:57:30.000 app about to drop January. It's for it's for director consumer. 1:57:30.040 --> 1:57:32.440 I believe if you got to get a million streams 1:57:32.480 --> 1:57:34.680 to make three thousand dollars, you might as well just 1:57:34.760 --> 1:57:38.480 go get three hundred niggas's gonna give you one hundred dollars. Yeah, 1:57:38.640 --> 1:57:40.200 you know what I'm saying. You might you better off 1:57:40.240 --> 1:57:41.960 doing it like that. Go get some three niggas who 1:57:42.000 --> 1:57:44.880 really believe in you, if you talented, Because I look 1:57:44.920 --> 1:57:47.560 at streaming even me and monthly listeners and all that shit. 1:57:47.600 --> 1:57:50.600 I'm like, I got sixty thousand, seventy things. I know, 1:57:50.640 --> 1:57:52.640 I got weight. I don't sold one hundreds of thousands 1:57:52.640 --> 1:57:55.960 of records independently. Right, it's a it's a it's a 1:57:56.360 --> 1:57:58.640 you know, it is what it is. But what I 1:57:58.760 --> 1:58:01.520 want to say is evermore Okay, Like I'm in at Tech, 1:58:02.240 --> 1:58:07.080 Shot to Suit, shout Up, mars A Cash, all these guys, 1:58:07.120 --> 1:58:10.240 they got these platforms. That's really showing artists how to 1:58:10.320 --> 1:58:12.880 be a business. Like really an I p O, like 1:58:12.960 --> 1:58:15.120 you can go you as Nori could be like funk 1:58:15.160 --> 1:58:17.960 that you want to buy some stock and Norri you 1:58:18.040 --> 1:58:19.920 could buy stock and Norrid they can put you on 1:58:20.000 --> 1:58:22.320 an I p O. Your a legal entity as a 1:58:22.760 --> 1:58:26.040 public business. I like that with individual music too, Like 1:58:26.160 --> 1:58:28.120 l Russell's was doing that, it's doing that now he's 1:58:28.160 --> 1:58:31.200 doing That's something. It's something different. It's something way different. 1:58:31.240 --> 1:58:33.880 I know, but I'm saying there's different ways of doing it. 1:58:34.000 --> 1:58:35.880 Now he's not on the stock saying no, no, no, no, 1:58:36.080 --> 1:58:38.440 that's crazy, that's crazy. Like you can go public like 1:58:39.160 --> 1:58:41.360 so my man said some ship up my man soup. 1:58:42.120 --> 1:58:44.640 You might know soup. You know slow bucks he started 1:58:44.640 --> 1:58:47.840 slow bucking. Oh yeah, no soup, yeah, soup, my guy, 1:58:48.200 --> 1:58:51.080 yeah shot soup, so and a cash. They put the 1:58:51.080 --> 1:58:53.600 ship together and my man, Mike's I ain't gonna say 1:58:53.640 --> 1:58:56.080 his last name. This is the third time on on 1:58:56.280 --> 1:58:59.760 drink chance y'all clown me for saying mike' semen, Mike 1:59:00.280 --> 1:59:13.360 like you more attention to you just said, but now 1:59:13.480 --> 1:59:16.040 evermore not gonna lie. He's one of the smartest people 1:59:16.080 --> 1:59:18.560 I know ever more r K. He got this. They 1:59:18.600 --> 1:59:21.200 give our million dollars a year or for playing fucking 1:59:21.280 --> 1:59:24.720 app like the technology. Ship is where the money's at. Money. 1:59:24.880 --> 1:59:28.920 Tech is the new oil. Tech is oil. Technology content 1:59:29.080 --> 1:59:31.360 is oil. That's why these streamer kids look at us 1:59:31.400 --> 1:59:34.440 like we dinosaurs. They do something called I r L 1:59:34.560 --> 1:59:36.680 in real life. They don't even record something and put 1:59:36.680 --> 1:59:38.760 it up if it ain't happen. When it happened, it 1:59:38.840 --> 1:59:42.320 ain't happen, and then they clip it so they don't 1:59:42.320 --> 1:59:46.440 sit there and recorded edited. They shoot me live like 1:59:46.560 --> 1:59:48.680 you should have streaming head and shooting this ship live, 1:59:49.040 --> 1:59:54.120 then clip it up on kid. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's 1:59:54.200 --> 1:59:56.240 what these that's how and it's so it's so mid 1:59:56.240 --> 1:59:59.440 because everything is ad based. If you can get eyeballs, 1:59:59.600 --> 2:00:02.000 that's what you YouTube is doing. That's why Netflix just 2:00:02.240 --> 2:00:04.720 did that deal with our heart. You're getting that. They're 2:00:04.720 --> 2:00:07.600 saying fuck you to we have to cut that niggas 2:00:07.720 --> 2:00:09.920 next all. It's a lot of it's a lot of 2:00:10.000 --> 2:00:12.200 things that we got to be privy to because we 2:00:12.320 --> 2:00:14.040 are the oil and the engine. Were the ones that 2:00:14.120 --> 2:00:16.680 make this ship cool. We're the cool factor. Without us, 2:00:16.800 --> 2:00:19.040 none of this ship works, you know what I'm saying. 2:00:20.440 --> 2:00:22.640 You see the only niggas making the big money. We 2:00:22.800 --> 2:00:25.360 think a few ms is money. And then they look like, 2:00:25.480 --> 2:00:27.520 oh they lick. They think they think they lick because 2:00:27.600 --> 2:00:30.320 they made a few ms. Meanwhile we made the hundreds 2:00:30.320 --> 2:00:32.880 of million. We make a hundreds of millions. That's why 2:00:32.920 --> 2:00:35.879 those billionaire part Yeah. 2:00:35.800 --> 2:00:37.960 That's why they're making billionaires a regular thing. 2:00:38.080 --> 2:00:41.400 Yeah they're going for trillion exactly. Noigas trying to hit 2:00:41.440 --> 2:00:47.640 a trillion like a couple of niggas. And yeah, I 2:00:47.720 --> 2:00:50.600 think it's a double sword, believe So I think I 2:00:50.680 --> 2:00:52.160 think it's I think it's it's evolution. 2:00:52.360 --> 2:00:55.280 It's awesome for the creator. There's a lot that we 2:00:55.360 --> 2:00:57.120 could do with it. But I think we don't really 2:00:57.160 --> 2:01:00.840 fully understand the long term like a gun. 2:01:01.400 --> 2:01:03.040 Like a gun, you could use a gun for good 2:01:03.120 --> 2:01:04.920 or you can use it for bad. You can use 2:01:04.920 --> 2:01:08.480 a gun to protect your family, but shoot itself unless 2:01:08.480 --> 2:01:13.760 you drop it. This AI can shoot itself. Said about 2:01:14.080 --> 2:01:18.600 somebody got pro that's not what the creators about AI 2:01:20.160 --> 2:01:23.360 you think about. I just think I think it's it's evolution. 2:01:23.520 --> 2:01:27.040 I think it's it's it's definitely evolution. It's technology. 2:01:27.120 --> 2:01:27.240 Bro. 2:01:27.640 --> 2:01:29.800 The thing about it is with with how far do 2:01:29.880 --> 2:01:30.360 you let it go? 2:01:31.880 --> 2:01:34.320 I think the creed is the part that's gonna exactly 2:01:34.880 --> 2:01:35.560 where it's gonna go. 2:01:35.840 --> 2:01:40.480 Left isn't putting the guardrails. I think. First of all, 2:01:40.480 --> 2:01:43.000 I want to say shout out to because you talk 2:01:43.000 --> 2:01:44.920 about music or just over I'm just going to music 2:01:45.000 --> 2:01:48.840 right now, we're talking about talking about more. I'm just 2:01:48.880 --> 2:01:51.280 talking about the music aspect of it. I was able 2:01:51.360 --> 2:01:55.640 to do to make a nice sized bag with Google 2:01:55.760 --> 2:01:58.000 like do an AI project, so they had me, John 2:01:58.080 --> 2:01:59.760 Legend and a bunch of people, so I see where 2:01:59.760 --> 2:02:03.040 it could be productive. That's sure feeding your family. But 2:02:03.600 --> 2:02:05.920 I'm just saying this. As far as the music, I 2:02:06.000 --> 2:02:10.200 think the wack rappers in trouble. I think niggas that 2:02:10.280 --> 2:02:12.680 really could rap, they're good because A I can't do 2:02:12.800 --> 2:02:15.880 it real, I don't know. Ye're hearing them fifty so 2:02:16.040 --> 2:02:18.680 many men songs, like when they do the old school. 2:02:18.440 --> 2:02:28.320 One reggae version, the original version and more. You're saying 2:02:28.400 --> 2:02:32.040 for originality, I'm saying. I'm saying, like deliriousis they can't. 2:02:32.200 --> 2:02:33.880 I haven't seen the AI do that. 2:02:34.600 --> 2:02:39.200 I don't know, so Jo it's crazy. I'm gonna tell 2:02:39.200 --> 2:02:41.240 you what to dude, both of y'all go to chat 2:02:41.360 --> 2:02:43.680 g B team be like, do a dis record against 2:02:43.800 --> 2:02:46.120 Norri and you go there, I did that ship that 2:02:46.160 --> 2:02:52.800 ships flaming megas, you record nigga disrecord against Sago. This 2:02:52.880 --> 2:02:56.160 ship new my whole life that this ship was flaming. 2:02:56.800 --> 2:02:59.280 I was like, and that's not even the crazy, not 2:02:59.320 --> 2:02:59.680 the crazy. 2:03:00.200 --> 2:03:03.720 That's what I'm saying, Like we under educated with AI, 2:03:03.920 --> 2:03:06.040 and sometimes we think we sound cool by talking about 2:03:06.080 --> 2:03:10.720 AI without really knowing what really can potentially happen with AI. 2:03:11.200 --> 2:03:12.800 Like when I'm telling I'm looking, you gotta look at 2:03:12.840 --> 2:03:14.120 the CEOs and the people that create AI. 2:03:14.440 --> 2:03:17.800 They're warning they're they're scared of it if they created it, 2:03:17.800 --> 2:03:18.520 and they're scared of it. 2:03:18.600 --> 2:03:20.680 Then I don't know what then, so let me ask you, 2:03:20.800 --> 2:03:26.000 let me ask you. No Ai, but God comes down, 2:03:27.840 --> 2:03:32.000 God says, Pat, you gotta make a record for humanity. 2:03:32.640 --> 2:03:38.000 Nobody here. You can't pick nobody here. You get one 2:03:38.080 --> 2:03:43.960 producer and one feature. This record is gonna save your manity. 2:03:44.320 --> 2:03:52.240 Nine content just whatever? Who this Pat? Pick feature? Yep, 2:03:52.560 --> 2:03:56.200 that're all live? Okay, Okay, I made it easier for 2:03:56.280 --> 2:03:59.880 you when you said that I'm not impressive. I do it. 2:04:03.440 --> 2:04:06.960 The one, the one feature. I will have to say big. 2:04:08.440 --> 2:04:10.480 And the producer beat my brother Sean to no, no, no, 2:04:10.560 --> 2:04:14.320 what not not here? I can't he took him out. 2:04:15.040 --> 2:04:21.560 I didn't winness that. Okay, I'm gonna go honestly, I'm 2:04:21.600 --> 2:04:25.680 gonna go, doctor Drake. Oh that's all, Doctor Drake. Okay. 2:04:25.760 --> 2:04:28.320 Now I'm flippit of bouncing on you. Now the feature 2:04:28.840 --> 2:04:34.160 has to be alive. And now the producer it's passed away. Okay, 2:04:34.840 --> 2:04:37.680 the feature, I will say, nas you know what I'm 2:04:37.680 --> 2:04:41.800 saying somewhere to be honest, man, okay, and the producer 2:04:41.840 --> 2:04:54.920 gotta be deceased. Yes, I'm gonna say, John, I won't 2:04:54.960 --> 2:04:59.840 take you question. I missed the question, he repeating, who 2:05:00.360 --> 2:05:01.440 who's your favorite ducer? 2:05:01.720 --> 2:05:06.080 My favorite producers is uh Curtis Mayfield. 2:05:06.480 --> 2:05:08.400 Okay, hold on, that was that was the question. He 2:05:08.440 --> 2:05:11.800 answered different Yeah, a whole different things. It was a 2:05:11.840 --> 2:05:18.120 crazy scenario. Yeah, damn man, Curtis Mayfield Mayfield. I can 2:05:18.240 --> 2:05:20.080 hear that. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't very I 2:05:20.120 --> 2:05:23.040 didn't even know Curtis Mayfield. But neither. Yeah, I ain't. 2:05:23.840 --> 2:05:30.040 I ain't. Never been stuck like that. Yeah, m you 2:05:30.080 --> 2:05:32.240 know us was the genius on the low. I'll be sure. 2:05:32.920 --> 2:05:38.440 I'll be sure still a genie. I'll be sure. Still musically, 2:05:38.520 --> 2:05:45.720 what's the last ship? Man? I don't believe. I don't believe. 2:05:46.200 --> 2:05:48.800 Being a genius is like playing basketball, like you don't 2:05:48.800 --> 2:05:51.120 get older and it's like stop being you know what 2:05:51.120 --> 2:05:53.440 I'm saying. You don't lose it. You don't lose it, 2:05:53.600 --> 2:05:55.880 like yeah, like you don't lose your knees achilles, don't 2:05:55.880 --> 2:05:59.800 break out on your geniusness, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 2:05:59.840 --> 2:06:02.240 he's illegenious. He just gotta like he put in the 2:06:02.320 --> 2:06:07.800 right run using it no more. Yeah, I know. To me, 2:06:07.920 --> 2:06:09.280 you got to be put in the right room, like 2:06:09.320 --> 2:06:12.000 you know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying, 2:06:12.080 --> 2:06:14.000 Like the credit he don't like he did all that 2:06:14.120 --> 2:06:17.120 Tevin Camp. He was writing the nigga pen and his insdruction. 2:06:17.240 --> 2:06:20.200 He produced his first album like the ineffect Mode or 2:06:20.240 --> 2:06:23.160 like Night and Day, all them songs they raised us 2:06:23.240 --> 2:06:26.320 and Ship. He was producing them Ships, Night and Day. 2:06:26.400 --> 2:06:30.360 I want to get on your nigga was writing them 2:06:30.400 --> 2:06:34.520 songs all. I'll be sure he brung the light Skin 2:06:34.600 --> 2:06:38.440 Brothers back out back out. It was out of style, 2:06:38.520 --> 2:06:46.960 and he brought the darkskin niggas back. Come on, who 2:06:47.000 --> 2:06:49.200 brought the niggas back after that? Because it goes back 2:06:49.240 --> 2:06:52.680 and forth going. Chris Brown got it right now, no, no, 2:06:52.760 --> 2:06:55.280 no after. I'll be sure. I would have to say 2:06:55.920 --> 2:07:00.400 about default nas Now's is in the middle son Nah 2:07:00.600 --> 2:07:05.800 he likes Nah, he likes Alien back t y, Yeah, 2:07:07.960 --> 2:07:15.240 I remember that. Can Wesley Snipe West Snipe. Biggie Big, bigger, bigger, 2:07:15.720 --> 2:07:20.200 different type big different. You know, every fat nigga got 2:07:20.240 --> 2:07:22.960 something fat in their name, like Biggie Small, chub Rock, 2:07:23.560 --> 2:07:27.960 fat Boys, heavy d You gotta acknowledge it. Every little 2:07:28.000 --> 2:07:33.760 nigga got little in their name. Too then, but every 2:07:33.880 --> 2:07:36.920 fat rapper you have to that's marketing without even realizing it, 2:07:37.160 --> 2:07:39.440 because you really have to acknowledge the fact that you know, 2:07:39.520 --> 2:07:44.080 you fat, a big dude that's already without without the extra, 2:07:44.360 --> 2:07:46.880 the largest, the biggest, the largest with that nigga name 2:07:47.760 --> 2:07:51.000 big asked the plug. It's another nigga. No that's not 2:07:51.080 --> 2:07:54.360 his name. His name he reminds me of pun. There's 2:07:54.360 --> 2:07:56.520 a couple of them that sits down on the couch 2:07:56.680 --> 2:08:00.160 when he performs oh drinking beef and when they by 2:08:00.600 --> 2:08:12.440 yeah yeah, I think shout out, I ain't this you man? 2:08:15.640 --> 2:08:17.120 Like he want all the action? 2:08:17.320 --> 2:08:17.480 Man? 2:08:18.320 --> 2:08:21.520 What some of Peter fifthest on one on one right 2:08:21.600 --> 2:08:25.520 now like that kind of a k on the roof. 2:08:28.000 --> 2:08:32.000 Anybody can get it right now? Two fifty oh yeah 2:08:32.520 --> 2:08:40.720 right yeah? So what was your favorite summer jam? I 2:08:40.800 --> 2:08:43.880 mean shameless plugged the woman Buster brought me out back 2:08:44.120 --> 2:08:48.200 like seven man come true? Who was that? Who else 2:08:48.280 --> 2:08:51.800 was out there with y'all? It was a crazy lineup. 2:08:51.840 --> 2:08:54.120 I don't remember the whole lineup, but everybody performed that 2:08:54.160 --> 2:08:56.680 there everybody was when the record came out. I'm mistaken 2:08:57.040 --> 2:09:00.600 or most of us. But besides that, I ain't gonna lie, 2:09:00.680 --> 2:09:03.200 bro I'm gonna keep it real. I'm a not fan. 2:09:03.320 --> 2:09:07.240 When jay Z did that take over, well that really 2:09:07.360 --> 2:09:10.480 was that nas That was really more towards his prodigy. Yeah, 2:09:10.480 --> 2:09:13.360 but at the end, look how you ended it. One 2:09:13.440 --> 2:09:15.160 of the whole son, you know what it was like 2:09:15.240 --> 2:09:17.200 for Maybe he shouldn't have said that because the can 2:09:17.360 --> 2:09:18.560 I know, but you know what it was like he 2:09:18.680 --> 2:09:21.160 did want to nig to say that though I thought 2:09:21.200 --> 2:09:25.040 it was a typo, you know what I mean. That 2:09:25.200 --> 2:09:26.640 was one of the things I don't believe that I 2:09:26.760 --> 2:09:31.200 was here, said New York City history, like was like 2:09:31.320 --> 2:09:34.520 when like like like when they actually like indulged, like 2:09:35.120 --> 2:09:37.160 because we always thought we got a lot of girls 2:09:37.160 --> 2:09:40.360 little Jude, no of y'all do you always thought that? 2:09:40.520 --> 2:09:42.240 And then like it was going back and forth. But 2:09:42.880 --> 2:09:44.880 you know what's the crazy shit about that Prodigy picture. 2:09:46.720 --> 2:09:49.000 We all went to that studio, We all saw the 2:09:49.160 --> 2:09:51.839 picture and never looked at it as a war tactics 2:09:52.520 --> 2:09:55.800 like that was his grandmother's studio, like we all have, 2:09:55.920 --> 2:10:00.120 Michael Jackson. So one of your niggas gave that nigga. No, no, 2:10:00.800 --> 2:10:02.720 I mean like when you walked into a lot of 2:10:02.720 --> 2:10:05.160 people saw it. It was like an S I R. Studio. 2:10:05.200 --> 2:10:08.560 For lack of a better how did get it? Anybody have? 2:10:11.480 --> 2:10:13.800 You couldn't take a picture of them, but anybody could have. 2:10:13.880 --> 2:10:16.320 That's like anybody somebody walking in right now taking a 2:10:16.320 --> 2:10:21.040 picture of the drink already. But no one looked at 2:10:21.080 --> 2:10:23.240 it like war tactics. You know what I'm saying, because 2:10:23.680 --> 2:10:26.200 like one, we didn't put too and two together that 2:10:27.440 --> 2:10:31.680 because he was a ballerina was hated. It wasn't you. 2:10:31.960 --> 2:10:36.000 It was like it was I'm not allowed to say 2:10:36.040 --> 2:10:39.560 bad about Pete because the Internet gonna kill me anything 2:10:39.600 --> 2:10:43.920 I said about Pridy to me. But the picture didn't 2:10:43.920 --> 2:10:46.240 look like it looked like a young nigga would like 2:10:46.480 --> 2:10:49.680 it was dancing. It was strategic on Jay's side. He said. 2:10:51.240 --> 2:10:53.640 A ballerine. It was no one ever actually looks and 2:10:53.680 --> 2:10:57.360 says that's side of hey man, Hey, it was the 2:10:57.400 --> 2:11:04.320 way he said it. You the picture, Yeah, yeah, dropped 2:11:04.320 --> 2:11:04.880 ship one. 2:11:04.840 --> 2:11:11.160 Swishing like some ship like you addressing piece of po. 2:11:11.240 --> 2:11:14.080 P was one of the only niggas who post would 2:11:14.080 --> 2:11:18.560 get into jay Z skin Man constantly that nigga break 2:11:18.640 --> 2:11:21.320 that down. For breaking down, bro, jay Z knows everybody 2:11:21.920 --> 2:11:24.880 I ain't prodigy. That Nigga respawned Prodigy and Jim Jones 2:11:26.400 --> 2:11:29.240 fifty two fifty Curtis got him. Yeah, but I'm talking 2:11:29.240 --> 2:11:32.400 about like I'm about a dollar lost fifty fifty seved 2:11:32.400 --> 2:11:36.040 when he said that, I was mad that right, it 2:11:36.200 --> 2:11:39.600 was no denying fifty. But just like niggas, everybody game 2:11:39.680 --> 2:11:43.920 cruising that Nigga always responded to Pedo. Wow, I didn't 2:11:43.920 --> 2:11:46.760 realize that. Yeah, pople A, he had a mean run 2:11:46.840 --> 2:11:49.680 at one time. It's Peno. I'm gonna tell you something 2:11:49.720 --> 2:11:53.240 about Prodigy, right, He probably the most sampled voice in 2:11:53.400 --> 2:11:56.080 hip hop ever that nigga. Might I thot I used 2:11:56.080 --> 2:12:01.080 to I used to go between Guru method man, they 2:12:01.200 --> 2:12:04.400 all deep the l voice niggas that nigga Prodigy. Think 2:12:04.480 --> 2:12:07.480 about all the songs they sample for his songs, even 2:12:07.560 --> 2:12:13.360 jay Z jay Z sample. You know, I Illuminati. When 2:12:13.400 --> 2:12:15.800 my mind sold him about pun I gave you fair 2:12:15.880 --> 2:12:19.600 warning beware like that Nigga's voice is so sampled. He 2:12:20.400 --> 2:12:23.640 he had, he had a golden tone bro like. Yeah, 2:12:24.000 --> 2:12:26.720 he didn't even have to be crazy. Prodigy didn't have 2:12:26.800 --> 2:12:31.200 to be super duper duper like technically lyrical because his presidence. 2:12:31.400 --> 2:12:35.120 He has something that it's so hard to bite. His style, 2:12:35.640 --> 2:12:40.640 his that was unbiteable. Nigga couldn't bite Prodigy Nigga that 2:12:40.640 --> 2:12:42.840 could go for like Peter Gold, like four balls and 2:12:42.920 --> 2:12:50.600 nothing wrong and it's still wasn't infamous album. P That 2:12:50.800 --> 2:12:54.000 was afterwards he developed that like he was just thinking 2:12:54.800 --> 2:12:58.480 that Nigga went on the run his ship and nobody 2:12:58.520 --> 2:13:01.600 couldn't funk with him. He's glass tables and all that. Yeah, 2:13:01.640 --> 2:13:04.680 I throw a TV at you TV. He was saying. 2:13:04.680 --> 2:13:07.080 It was like better than the round for man, like 2:13:07.160 --> 2:13:09.600 the nigga with your rest places said I break red 2:13:10.080 --> 2:13:13.840 ribs one hundred dollars. His first lines is, so was 2:13:13.880 --> 2:13:15.720 the record come on catch you coming out your fucking 2:13:15.800 --> 2:13:21.840 crag nigga? All the killers in one hundred dollars that 2:13:21.960 --> 2:13:24.600 niggas is new with the saving for the ship ones 2:13:24.840 --> 2:13:28.120 was she wasn't a record. That ship was a move movement, 2:13:28.480 --> 2:13:30.400 Like I remember everything that happened in my life when 2:13:30.440 --> 2:13:32.680 that was coming. He too had the big stupid north 2:13:32.720 --> 2:13:37.760 face on jumping off the fran playing that more deep ship. Nigga, 2:13:37.880 --> 2:13:40.600 Yeah that was serious. You had a hell of a 2:13:40.680 --> 2:13:48.880 ton to let me. It was crazy I think I've 2:13:48.920 --> 2:13:56.240 seen another interview with the Homeboy the Thugs. Calm down, No, yeah, 2:13:56.800 --> 2:13:59.880 he did come again seeing my bigger probably my big 2:14:00.200 --> 2:14:10.480 record float. He's a monster. He's like one of the 2:14:10.640 --> 2:14:14.000 other producers. Like you can't you can't like listen to 2:14:14.120 --> 2:14:17.720 his sound and say that's him. Yeah, he can come 2:14:17.760 --> 2:14:20.160 in like you know, he got a sound though, but 2:14:20.280 --> 2:14:22.520 you gotta be yeah. I mean you, I mean yeah, yeah. 2:14:22.800 --> 2:14:24.000 What is he do? 2:14:24.480 --> 2:14:28.000 Yeah, I think so, I mean yell like he did. 2:14:28.080 --> 2:14:30.280 Sometimes it's the snare. 2:14:30.960 --> 2:14:38.040 Sometimes sometimes George pro is dope. Rock is crazy. To 2:14:38.040 --> 2:14:41.400 see the Award a War show A l A Yeah, 2:14:41.720 --> 2:14:44.080 l A recently and they was break dancing like that's it. 2:14:44.240 --> 2:14:46.200 So when we were talking earlier, excuse me, I was 2:14:46.400 --> 2:14:48.080 pointing you. When we were talking earlier about the New 2:14:48.160 --> 2:14:52.000 York ship, I can't lie. I can't lie. L A 2:14:52.120 --> 2:14:55.800 gave it up, like they gave a whole little ceremony 2:14:55.880 --> 2:14:58.280 and they were breakdancing. You can tell there was no 2:14:58.440 --> 2:15:00.560 separation that night, that ship that you we're talking about, 2:15:00.600 --> 2:15:02.320 because I suffered from that too. That's like, damn. Why 2:15:02.360 --> 2:15:04.360 they always like kind of like like I don't want 2:15:04.360 --> 2:15:06.320 to say, look down l A wasn't like that though 2:15:06.920 --> 2:15:09.320 I'm talking about this. This was a party. Risin was 2:15:09.400 --> 2:15:15.120 there and everyone here South. We were talking about we 2:15:15.200 --> 2:15:17.640 were saying earlier is I let pat say because I 2:15:17.680 --> 2:15:20.200 don't want all about the situation, like we were talking 2:15:20.200 --> 2:15:24.240 about how he was here. He came at the end. 2:15:24.280 --> 2:15:29.480 I think he came towards the New York. We were 2:15:29.520 --> 2:15:31.320 just talking about how niggas behaving on New York. But 2:15:31.400 --> 2:15:35.080 that was the South South, and the West was different 2:15:35.320 --> 2:15:37.680 the West. I'm gonna tell you when the West started 2:15:37.760 --> 2:15:41.560 not liking niggas, when niggas was like you over there 2:15:41.640 --> 2:15:44.880 second or that New York did ice Cube, but ice 2:15:44.920 --> 2:15:47.440 col left n w A and went to the bombs 2:15:47.440 --> 2:15:49.960 Squas like no, no, no, no, n w A. But 2:15:50.040 --> 2:15:51.160 what are you saying? Ice Cube? 2:15:51.280 --> 2:15:55.400 Left wing wanted specific So. 2:15:55.520 --> 2:15:58.080 You remember when they just here's what they think about you. 2:15:58.160 --> 2:16:00.400 Here's what they think about since you over there sucking 2:16:00.440 --> 2:16:02.080 to so much New York, dick, don't you come east 2:16:02.160 --> 2:16:04.680 of that Chicago pussy? You don't remember that skit on 2:16:04.840 --> 2:16:07.680 n w AS album but produced by New York producers. No, 2:16:07.840 --> 2:16:10.400 that was n w AS. That was w A's rebuttal 2:16:10.440 --> 2:16:13.240 when he left the group when yeah, you're right, Nigga, 2:16:13.280 --> 2:16:17.600 when you're right. When he left the when Niggas for 2:16:17.680 --> 2:16:20.560 Life came out, that's when it because Ice Q came 2:16:20.600 --> 2:16:22.360 over here. When he left n w A, he came 2:16:22.440 --> 2:16:24.360 to the East Coast and started working with Bomb Squad 2:16:24.480 --> 2:16:27.600 was Public Enemy producers. They did the whole America's Most Wanting. 2:16:27.680 --> 2:16:29.960 That's why it sounds a lot like Public Enemy albums. 2:16:30.440 --> 2:16:33.320 So there's a skit on that. Here's what they thinking 2:16:33.440 --> 2:16:35.920 on Niggas for Life. Since you're over there sucking so 2:16:36.000 --> 2:16:37.800 much New York, Dick, won't you come east of the 2:16:37.879 --> 2:16:41.080 Chicago pussy? Some girl called up like the caller and 2:16:41.240 --> 2:16:44.680 them niggas they funk with us. Since then that really started. 2:16:46.000 --> 2:16:51.520 It wasn't its Ice come, yeah, look at you. 2:16:52.160 --> 2:17:00.640 I don't know, tell I remember, I know that's called 2:17:00.680 --> 2:17:04.119 I think Benedic Donalds was like, yeah, exactly. 2:17:04.000 --> 2:17:04.360 I mean. 2:17:05.879 --> 2:17:09.720 Niggas for Life. The album Nigga's Life was so like 2:17:09.800 --> 2:17:12.120 the West Coast had a mean they had run just 2:17:12.160 --> 2:17:14.640 like the South. Bro know Niggas for No of course 2:17:14.640 --> 2:17:16.920 it had a run before this, maybe longer or just 2:17:17.000 --> 2:17:21.039 as long, Ja quick J. The city Ship was old 2:17:21.080 --> 2:17:23.880 West Coast battle Cat DJ Quick. You gotta think that 2:17:24.040 --> 2:17:27.320 these niggas was killing doctor and Dope Man and Ship 2:17:27.400 --> 2:17:29.720 came out eighty eight. Bro, that's not the same time 2:17:29.760 --> 2:17:32.640 as Caane like Dope Man, Dope Man. Yeah, that's me. 2:17:33.360 --> 2:17:36.000 You cannot get a j and Icy and right and 2:17:36.240 --> 2:17:39.039 in that whole movement that she was eighties my brother Icy, 2:17:39.120 --> 2:17:42.680 that's family. They came to the Premier Man six, my 2:17:42.800 --> 2:17:46.520 brother that Ship was eight. That's eighties. Icey was playing 2:17:46.560 --> 2:17:49.480 the same character for thirty seven years. They finally cand 2:17:49.520 --> 2:17:53.880 them done what yeah they got. They ain't can't go 2:17:54.040 --> 2:17:56.640 Google Google's do the Icy Man. I ain't gonna lie that. 2:17:56.800 --> 2:17:59.720 That's family, Bro, I ain't gonna lie. Shout the Ice 2:17:59.800 --> 2:18:04.560 Man nigga. Yeah, Ice a real solid, that's a real 2:18:05.160 --> 2:18:08.120 down the ice before I knew she wrapped anybody. Bro. 2:18:08.720 --> 2:18:10.959 That's why he comes out here and helps New York artists. 2:18:11.160 --> 2:18:17.920 He loves literacy. Paint the pain, yeah, pain like Ice Teams. 2:18:18.080 --> 2:18:20.240 One of the first ones of Coach signed him. Ice 2:18:20.280 --> 2:18:22.400 Ty came out of co signing Mad Dude. Now that's 2:18:22.440 --> 2:18:24.920 how he is, bro. He embraced real hip hop. He 2:18:25.040 --> 2:18:29.400 embraced me as a young and he was smoothing. Yes, yeah, 2:18:29.440 --> 2:18:31.400 them niggas individual. When I was I'm like, is that 2:18:31.480 --> 2:18:33.760 Ice team? That's the fact. Just then when I did 2:18:33.879 --> 2:18:36.080 for me for my project, the nigga Ice pulled up. 2:18:36.120 --> 2:18:36.240 Bro. 2:18:37.560 --> 2:18:40.680 He always shows a solid just a real individual because 2:18:40.680 --> 2:18:44.600 of that, just because that's what he is exactly. Shout 2:18:44.640 --> 2:18:46.760 the last Pro man larst Pro did some beats for me, 2:18:46.879 --> 2:18:49.760 man and that ship like that mean, I was real 2:18:49.840 --> 2:18:50.440 happy about that. 2:18:50.560 --> 2:18:50.680 Man. 2:18:50.800 --> 2:18:53.160 I grew up listening to Large Bro. He mixed them 2:18:53.240 --> 2:18:55.560 down the whole ship, sent them to me like quality man. 2:18:55.640 --> 2:18:58.040 So I just want to shout him out. I love 2:18:58.120 --> 2:19:02.880 telling the story, telling a story. I'll go Toby, that 2:19:03.000 --> 2:19:06.880 Large Pro went to way Quan show and sat in 2:19:06.920 --> 2:19:14.520 the front, comes out and he have no so Bro 2:19:14.959 --> 2:19:17.320 left the show. He was like, I can't see the 2:19:17.400 --> 2:19:18.480 guard and not beating the guard. 2:19:19.000 --> 2:19:19.160 You know. 2:19:21.280 --> 2:19:24.080 I imagine. I imagine he don't even know how to 2:19:24.200 --> 2:19:29.640 order breakfast. I imagine Large Pro like, yo, you got 2:19:29.680 --> 2:19:34.920 the turkey bacon, like he's so hip high, like I 2:19:35.000 --> 2:19:37.040 don't know, I don't think he knows how to be 2:19:37.240 --> 2:19:40.080 like like normal, Like I don't know if you've seen 2:19:40.160 --> 2:19:45.359 that ship in La where Riz giving him an Award. 2:19:46.240 --> 2:19:48.320 He's so much like like how you did with us 2:19:48.360 --> 2:19:51.040 with the flowers. He's so much not used to like 2:19:51.760 --> 2:19:54.400 taking credit. He's sitting there the whole time is Riz 2:19:54.560 --> 2:19:59.440 is making him up. He's making like and I'm like, yo, 2:19:59.600 --> 2:20:05.520 take your He's so much hip hop like he can't 2:20:05.560 --> 2:20:09.680 see who, he can only see the image of the 2:20:09.760 --> 2:20:12.560 person that you are as a hip hop like. I 2:20:12.600 --> 2:20:16.600 don't think he'll ever call you like, I'm like, I 2:20:16.640 --> 2:20:18.200 wan't to ever call l L by his world name. 2:20:18.200 --> 2:20:19.920 I remember I was coming around and he was like 2:20:20.160 --> 2:20:23.200 Tard and and then people were violated, was like tell 2:20:23.280 --> 2:20:26.840 Tard and I was like, ta is tall, Like I'm 2:20:26.879 --> 2:20:30.920 like that man name is l my motheruck, I don't 2:20:30.920 --> 2:20:34.480 even give He tells me call me TA call me Jane, No, 2:20:35.040 --> 2:20:39.240 I refuse Yo, who jay to me? L L one 2:20:39.280 --> 2:20:41.440 of the only dudes that showed up with my brother 2:20:41.520 --> 2:20:44.600 K slave funeral man shot to l L. Also also 2:20:44.680 --> 2:20:46.040 when they was fronting you know what I'm saying, when 2:20:46.040 --> 2:20:47.680 I was trying to carry you on Slave Radio show 2:20:48.120 --> 2:20:50.040 and a lot of platforms was fronting because when he 2:20:50.120 --> 2:20:52.120 first died, they wanted to fake celebrate and all that 2:20:52.600 --> 2:20:55.200 l L gave me the Drama Hour every Friday. You know, 2:20:55.240 --> 2:20:57.480 I'm saying nine pm. I'm carrying on the legacy my 2:20:57.520 --> 2:21:00.240 brother case So l L is the solid individ. Yeah, 2:21:00.480 --> 2:21:06.960 speaks of Rock the Bells. Definitely, it's last time I 2:21:07.040 --> 2:21:12.120 seen you. And uh yeah, Rocky Bell's cruise. Yeah, I 2:21:12.160 --> 2:21:14.039 think about the Rock the Bells Cruise. It's a big deal. 2:21:14.040 --> 2:21:15.920 I ain't make one yet, but I do want to show. 2:21:15.959 --> 2:21:20.520 I've never been drink champs. Not perfect. Maybe I've never 2:21:20.600 --> 2:21:23.040 been in those summer jam that he's been. I've never 2:21:23.080 --> 2:21:26.840 been the first summer jam I tried like another first 2:21:27.040 --> 2:21:29.840 Nah had this limma with stickers on. It was ninety four. 2:21:30.320 --> 2:21:33.640 Nineteen ninety four was the first summer jam and we 2:21:33.800 --> 2:21:36.160 niggas ain't had no take. We was kids anyway, and 2:21:36.360 --> 2:21:38.720 niggas is just like oh ship, they go such you 2:21:38.840 --> 2:21:41.280 never performed that. I've never even been in the building 2:21:41.360 --> 2:21:43.040 when it was having a summer while I went to 2:21:43.120 --> 2:21:46.400 every one when I was never been there. I've never 2:21:46.520 --> 2:21:49.200 been inside in those bands. Now, I wanted to know 2:21:49.360 --> 2:21:51.280 Pleaser every summer jam before I got on, I was 2:21:51.320 --> 2:21:55.760 there every year. I've never been. He's like everyone, Yeah 2:21:55.800 --> 2:21:57.640 I was and when I performed. It was thanks to 2:21:57.720 --> 2:21:59.320 my brother Buster Man. Shout out the Buster. You know 2:21:59.320 --> 2:22:00.840 what I'm saying. He he brought me out. Man, that 2:22:00.879 --> 2:22:04.040 was a dreaming. Think is over? He thinks over. That's 2:22:04.120 --> 2:22:08.320 my next question. Somebody said, definitely not the same. It's not. 2:22:08.480 --> 2:22:10.320 It doesn't mean I think I think. If I think 2:22:10.400 --> 2:22:12.520 Flex is going to fight to the death, I ain't 2:22:12.560 --> 2:22:14.360 gonna lie. Let me just tell you something. Let's taking 2:22:14.680 --> 2:22:20.840 more this show. Wow. Yeah, let me tell you something, Peter, 2:22:21.760 --> 2:22:26.480 let me tell you something. Man, say something. Let me 2:22:26.520 --> 2:22:29.480 tell you Flex. You know, Flex is you know when 2:22:29.600 --> 2:22:33.360 the Titanic was going down and the guy is like this, 2:22:33.720 --> 2:22:38.120 hold on, he's that guy. He's also the guy on 2:22:38.200 --> 2:22:45.000 the plan and he's also the captain. He'll go out 2:22:45.000 --> 2:22:47.960 of this. Let me tell you something, Man was not 2:22:48.040 --> 2:22:57.680 even everybody, yo, every artist even, and Flex never played 2:22:57.680 --> 2:23:00.160 your record. He never played it as much you as 2:23:00.160 --> 2:23:02.760 you wanted them to play or whatever. Yo, my nigga, 2:23:02.800 --> 2:23:04.760 you want to sit back. I sat back a long 2:23:04.840 --> 2:23:07.560 time ago. I said, this motherfucker is on the radio 2:23:08.120 --> 2:23:12.879 every day for five hours. My whole life. Man flexed 2:23:13.040 --> 2:23:15.680 drive and his grind and his dedication to this DJ 2:23:15.840 --> 2:23:20.040 ship is to be studied. Say what you want niggas 2:23:20.040 --> 2:23:24.480 is ninety seven new location. They got roaches in the building. 2:23:24.560 --> 2:23:26.600 When I heard that, they come up with that's just 2:23:26.680 --> 2:23:28.920 like nigga, we standing on your ship. You see this 2:23:29.040 --> 2:23:31.440 loal Flex he said, we're going down with the shiro 2:23:32.840 --> 2:23:39.120 me pull over, yo, man, throw your head out the window. 2:23:42.600 --> 2:23:50.480 It's crazy, bro. Recently going that's staring the cat stop. 2:23:50.600 --> 2:23:53.720 So I just went out a new song recently where 2:23:54.120 --> 2:23:56.080 I'm paying you know the niggas. You gotta pay to 2:23:56.160 --> 2:23:59.280 do the mix show. So staying that on your phone? No, no, no, 2:24:00.080 --> 2:24:05.160 know you're paying that yeah, up the pet radio promo. 2:24:05.520 --> 2:24:08.720 So I'm like, I need Flex. At least I had 2:24:08.760 --> 2:24:11.000 a new song, right. So Flex was like I want 2:24:11.040 --> 2:24:12.880 to get on the phone with him. This is like 2:24:13.240 --> 2:24:17.000 literally three three four weeks ago weeks. So I'm like, 2:24:17.240 --> 2:24:19.280 why do you like? So I'm like, fuck it if 2:24:19.280 --> 2:24:20.440 you want to get on the phone more than like, 2:24:20.520 --> 2:24:22.760 he's gonna play the record. But I don't understand what 2:24:22.840 --> 2:24:25.320 the issue is. So he gets on the phone. He's like, Yo, 2:24:26.280 --> 2:24:28.720 it's been more to my attention. You have some niggative 2:24:28.760 --> 2:24:33.320 things you said. I'm like, Flex, you could scatter the 2:24:33.360 --> 2:24:37.280 whole internet. I ain't never said no. Fact, I respect 2:24:37.480 --> 2:24:39.920 niggas don't like you. Flex does not take no he don't. 2:24:40.400 --> 2:24:42.080 I said, Yo, he don't take no money. I said, 2:24:42.280 --> 2:24:45.320 he want to make sure y'all good like Nigga. I 2:24:45.320 --> 2:24:47.560 ain't about to be sitting here celebrating the nigga to 2:24:47.640 --> 2:24:49.560 be shipping on me. He was like, I don't know, 2:24:50.080 --> 2:24:56.560 I don't know. I don't know. It's like Nigga's been 2:24:56.640 --> 2:25:01.520 telling me some things. I'm like, yo, fam, I'm like, yo, 2:25:01.680 --> 2:25:04.160 I ain't never said nothing bad about it. I said, Yo, 2:25:04.320 --> 2:25:07.320 this is ship called chet GBT Nigga. That ship was 2:25:07.360 --> 2:25:12.240 scoured the whole world. And then play and then he 2:25:12.280 --> 2:25:14.160 played the record. And he started playing the record and 2:25:14.200 --> 2:25:16.920 I was like, nah, most dedicated, one of the most 2:25:16.959 --> 2:25:21.200 dedicated DJs I've seen besides slave like slave man talk. Yes, 2:25:23.920 --> 2:25:25.840 how many jail people come up to you ask you 2:25:25.840 --> 2:25:31.040 about law library? Oh? I can't even count it, bro, 2:25:31.240 --> 2:25:33.320 Like I had dudes come up to me like, and 2:25:33.440 --> 2:25:36.000 I can tell they who they say to y'all and 2:25:36.000 --> 2:25:38.680 they're like, yo, bro, it wasn't for you. I wouldn't 2:25:38.680 --> 2:25:40.840 have got through my bed. I wouldn't have knew about 2:25:40.879 --> 2:25:43.320 the technicality. That helped me come home. You know what 2:25:43.320 --> 2:25:44.879 I'm saying. Like, Yo, when I was locked up, law 2:25:44.959 --> 2:25:50.000 library saved me. So that besides alphabetical, that's another express 2:25:50.040 --> 2:25:53.640 That ship, right, y'a took me going in that should 2:25:53.640 --> 2:25:57.680 be another one of those visuals and everything visual. It's 2:25:57.760 --> 2:25:59.680 content thing, it is visual. Now you did a lot. 2:25:59.760 --> 2:26:02.440 You know my ship was charaised though oh yeah, my 2:26:02.560 --> 2:26:05.840 ship was raised. Who am I like? That ship was 2:26:06.680 --> 2:26:09.039 that concept? That's when I was like, that was slaves. 2:26:09.080 --> 2:26:11.040 They gave me that beat man and never forget it. 2:26:11.240 --> 2:26:15.720 He's like something that live from the hood. That was 2:26:15.800 --> 2:26:19.120 my ship, bro, and it forced men. I need to 2:26:19.240 --> 2:26:21.720 put that out to me. Man, you ever got criticism 2:26:21.760 --> 2:26:27.000 for alphabetic No, I got a lot of copy cats, 2:26:27.080 --> 2:26:30.360 though I ain't getting called me a copy cat when 2:26:30.400 --> 2:26:33.080 I did letter P so I didn't let her with 2:26:33.240 --> 2:26:37.120 coolgie rat. I'm like Nigga. I did one letter this 2:26:37.280 --> 2:26:47.760 nigga person that I remember that Nigga did the whole Outmit. 2:26:47.879 --> 2:26:51.199 This ship ain't nothing, nah, I hear him on that poof. 2:26:52.680 --> 2:26:54.040 I told you, bro, if I'm on the stay and 2:26:54.080 --> 2:26:57.680 I'm getting a steal, I go sorter bag when I 2:26:57.760 --> 2:26:59.480 used to battle on the street a nigga. If a 2:26:59.520 --> 2:27:05.320 nigga went about alphabetical slow time, that sh saved my 2:27:05.400 --> 2:27:08.680 life world. And the way I came up with that 2:27:08.879 --> 2:27:10.920 was I remember when I was a kid and I 2:27:11.000 --> 2:27:13.360 read that they said Malcolm Mix read the whole dictionary 2:27:13.360 --> 2:27:15.320 when he was in jail. I was like, damn, you 2:27:15.400 --> 2:27:19.840 read the whole dictionary. I never forgets autobiography, I'll tell you. Yeah, 2:27:19.879 --> 2:27:21.800 he said that. Yeah, so I wouldn't have got it 2:27:21.879 --> 2:27:24.520 was the Webster's Third World College Edition. I never forget it. 2:27:24.800 --> 2:27:27.120 And I read that I started doing it. When I 2:27:27.160 --> 2:27:28.840 started doing it. While I'm doing it, I'm like, yo, 2:27:29.640 --> 2:27:31.280 I could make a rap about this ship, and I 2:27:31.280 --> 2:27:37.000 started doing the noise for that ain't gonna. I thought 2:27:37.080 --> 2:27:39.640 Malcolm was out of his making mind. I never messed upody. 2:27:39.680 --> 2:27:42.000 You really read the whole diction? Yeah? When I I 2:27:42.040 --> 2:27:44.080 got it for Malcolm Mixed though, yeah. Yeah. When I 2:27:44.120 --> 2:27:46.000 seen that, I was like, I'm copying that ship. Okay, 2:27:46.400 --> 2:27:48.800 do you write rhymes down? Or I used to when 2:27:48.840 --> 2:27:50.560 I was young, but as I got older, if I 2:27:50.800 --> 2:27:53.000 if I write around them, I might wrap about the paper. 2:27:53.800 --> 2:27:57.080 So like, through the course of my real talk, real ship. 2:27:57.160 --> 2:27:59.440 I might trap about the so like this right here 2:27:59.520 --> 2:28:01.400 is inspired and I'll make a verse out of this 2:28:01.560 --> 2:28:03.520 right here, just sitting here with you'll, like, throughout the 2:28:03.560 --> 2:28:06.000 course of my day, my experiences, I'm always thinking of 2:28:06.240 --> 2:28:11.600 lines and ship. Wow you right, well, yeah, you're right right, Yeah, 2:28:11.879 --> 2:28:16.000 me too, because I have to memorize. It's like smoke marijuana. 2:28:16.320 --> 2:28:18.640 You know what happened. You know what happened When Biggie 2:28:18.640 --> 2:28:20.959 said he didn't write, everybody started saying it right right. 2:28:21.080 --> 2:28:25.360 But some of these books to write, I'm gonna tell 2:28:25.360 --> 2:28:28.640 you what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you 2:28:28.640 --> 2:28:30.640 about gimmick because most of them be in the studio 2:28:30.680 --> 2:28:33.080 when they make, when they creating. So whether I write 2:28:33.120 --> 2:28:35.080 it down or say it in the mic, it's the 2:28:35.160 --> 2:28:38.120 same ship and recording it. So whether I write it down, 2:28:38.800 --> 2:28:42.040 I'm recording it. But whether I think and I just 2:28:42.080 --> 2:28:43.720 say instead of writing it, I'm just gonna say it 2:28:43.720 --> 2:28:45.320 and then I'm gonna go wait and then come up 2:28:45.320 --> 2:28:48.199 with the next line. Niggas build a rhyme up. Niggas 2:28:48.240 --> 2:28:52.879 don't for me, but yeah, right, Niggas act like niggas 2:28:52.920 --> 2:28:55.200 going and and be like and then go freestyle the 2:28:55.280 --> 2:28:58.840 whole ship. Nah. Only certain niggas caund do that. But 2:28:59.200 --> 2:29:01.119 for me, that there not right. And Shane Wayne could 2:29:01.160 --> 2:29:05.560 do that. Yeah, Wayne Wayne cooked as dope as shout 2:29:05.600 --> 2:29:07.480 the Wayne he jumped on. I did ready. I did 2:29:07.600 --> 2:29:10.880 ready with Wayne, and I thought I was nice cooked Me. 2:29:13.600 --> 2:29:19.560 Wayne is insane dope lyricists. That's one of the lyricists. 2:29:19.560 --> 2:29:21.400 Bro Like for real, I didn't know he do that 2:29:21.480 --> 2:29:23.800 in the studio. He sent me the verse that he 2:29:23.840 --> 2:29:26.720 did for me. Yeah, he centers to you fast but 2:29:27.040 --> 2:29:29.280 not writing ship. What happened with me was when I, 2:29:29.440 --> 2:29:31.560 like I said, I might wrap about the paper, So 2:29:31.640 --> 2:29:33.800 I got to find another way to write, like and 2:29:33.879 --> 2:29:36.320 I get inspired to experience it. So I got to 2:29:36.400 --> 2:29:39.360 a space where I couldn't write. So by default I 2:29:39.440 --> 2:29:42.160 didn't write for years. But like I said, Biggie made 2:29:42.160 --> 2:29:45.120 it cool. Every rapper claimed they don't write. I don't know. 2:29:45.520 --> 2:29:46.920 Let me ask you a question. I'm familiar with the 2:29:47.000 --> 2:29:50.720 art named d one. Yeah, we just had. He was 2:29:52.400 --> 2:29:57.160 after and he showed up because he reminds me of 2:29:57.640 --> 2:29:59.640 him before me. Huh, I met him. I got a 2:29:59.680 --> 2:30:02.240 new song coming out, my new songs when okay, and 2:30:02.280 --> 2:30:05.320 I ain't like he's like positivity. I got a lot 2:30:05.360 --> 2:30:09.840 of respect, but his skill level still like when you 2:30:09.959 --> 2:30:12.560 put yourself in a bubble where you can't talk about niggas. 2:30:13.120 --> 2:30:15.840 He don't curse, you don't nigga, you don't say is old. 2:30:16.240 --> 2:30:18.600 So he puts itself in a little bubble like you 2:30:18.640 --> 2:30:20.480 ain't got a lot of room. I don't think that's 2:30:20.480 --> 2:30:21.880 the problem. You know what I think is a problem. 2:30:22.080 --> 2:30:23.680 I don't think he's got a problem. I think that 2:30:24.400 --> 2:30:26.520 the little problem is is when he gets through to 2:30:26.600 --> 2:30:28.360 a brother. Let's suppose he got through to g Z 2:30:28.600 --> 2:30:30.960 or whatever, right and he says, yo, man, geez, like 2:30:31.040 --> 2:30:36.640 how you taking your approach and you you're doing a 2:30:36.720 --> 2:30:39.880 new leaf and then you know it whatever. But then 2:30:39.959 --> 2:30:41.920 he'll go, but I want you to go undo what 2:30:42.080 --> 2:30:44.400 you did. And that's just you just can't take it back. 2:30:44.800 --> 2:30:47.880 I don't just can't punch. I never heard him like yeah, 2:30:48.200 --> 2:30:50.640 he'll say like, yeah he said that, I forget who 2:30:50.720 --> 2:30:54.280 it was. What like all the damage you called? Yeah, yeah, 2:30:54.640 --> 2:30:57.039 he wants people to renounce it in the damn. Don't 2:30:58.200 --> 2:31:01.240 telling niggas sell coke, Telling niggas destroy the community. Tell 2:31:01.360 --> 2:31:06.000 niggas yo, push keys, but you can't undo that. You 2:31:06.080 --> 2:31:10.879 can't you could grow. I never heard him say that though. Yeah, 2:31:11.040 --> 2:31:13.240 I forget who it was, and I wanted to call 2:31:13.320 --> 2:31:15.840 him personally and be like because I believe he like 2:31:16.280 --> 2:31:17.720 was trying to get through to a artist. I forget 2:31:17.720 --> 2:31:19.960 who it was, and he got through to him. He 2:31:20.080 --> 2:31:21.480 was like, Yo, So all I want you to do 2:31:21.680 --> 2:31:24.240 is like you know, telling people that you sorry. Yeah, 2:31:26.000 --> 2:31:28.480 I don't may have called I don't. I don't think 2:31:28.520 --> 2:31:31.960 if I remember the game Maddics Madix when you like 2:31:32.040 --> 2:31:35.880 you got something in your hand, I don't think you 2:31:36.000 --> 2:31:38.360 ever forgive me for that, Like you know what I mean? 2:31:38.520 --> 2:31:40.000 Like I could do that to you in third grade. 2:31:40.240 --> 2:31:42.320 You could be fucking sixty three years old. It's like 2:31:44.360 --> 2:31:48.200 I need to give him back. Imagine nigga giving you 2:31:48.240 --> 2:31:55.760 a wedgiety is unforgivable. If you picked me up on 2:31:55.920 --> 2:32:06.640 my throw, what you got to the unforgivable we got 2:32:06.760 --> 2:32:11.800 be for I don't think. I don't think that. I 2:32:11.800 --> 2:32:15.080 don't blame hip hop stuff like that, right, Like you 2:32:15.120 --> 2:32:17.520 know what I mean? It's bro, you got Smith and Wesson, 2:32:19.879 --> 2:32:23.160 you got all these different guns, skip past them and 2:32:23.240 --> 2:32:27.440 blame hip hop Jones talked the other day Earn your 2:32:27.520 --> 2:32:29.920 Legia was saying that we all kind of need to 2:32:29.959 --> 2:32:34.320 take responsibility because hip hop has gave a lot of positivity, 2:32:34.400 --> 2:32:36.040 but it gave a lot of negativity. What do you 2:32:36.120 --> 2:32:40.040 say to that? I disagree? Okay, I disagree. Do you 2:32:40.120 --> 2:32:41.920 know how many, bro we wouldn't be sitting here without 2:32:41.959 --> 2:32:44.359 hip hop exactly? Do you know what I mean? Jobs 2:32:44.440 --> 2:32:47.320 hip hop created? How many lives hip hop has saved? 2:32:48.160 --> 2:32:50.480 Like I don't understand probably shooting at each other in 2:32:50.560 --> 2:32:54.040 the probably like my only way out when I was 2:32:54.080 --> 2:32:55.760 going through that type of ship in my life, the 2:32:55.840 --> 2:32:57.360 only thing I had to look forward to with you 2:32:57.440 --> 2:32:59.480 one day, I'm I'm gonna be successful in hip hop, 2:33:00.040 --> 2:33:01.840 Like that's something to look forward to when it's creating 2:33:01.959 --> 2:33:04.280 jobs and it's doing a lot of things. We live 2:33:04.320 --> 2:33:08.640 in America, man, America is built on balance and set 2:33:08.800 --> 2:33:11.760 and raping pillage. So you can't just blame hip hop. 2:33:12.320 --> 2:33:15.200 You skip past all of these more smith and Western hecking, 2:33:15.280 --> 2:33:17.920 the cotch, all of these different mother fuckers who distributed 2:33:18.440 --> 2:33:21.720 distributed fire rooms, and you blame hip hop for the 2:33:21.800 --> 2:33:25.240 balance in America. No, no, no, it don't make sense. 2:33:25.640 --> 2:33:27.480 I don't think. I don't think. I don't blame hip 2:33:27.520 --> 2:33:31.200 hop no no, no, I met before. I think I 2:33:31.280 --> 2:33:35.040 think creed their own taking ownership. That d one you 2:33:35.120 --> 2:33:45.080 gotta talk about shameless plug Well wishes you like I 2:33:45.200 --> 2:33:49.280 want dope though he's dope, definitely Like one thing that 2:33:49.400 --> 2:33:51.280 one thing a nigga won't do is try to test 2:33:51.320 --> 2:33:53.080 this pandemic. That's one thing I'm gonna point out to you. 2:33:53.440 --> 2:33:58.840 A nigga won't try. I don't say more than you counted. 2:34:00.080 --> 2:34:04.960 I'm very long, very boor yes you do. I was 2:34:05.040 --> 2:34:09.200 watching you. I was like, I'm counting. I'm like this 2:34:09.320 --> 2:34:18.800 nigga not because I'm trying to be better with my 2:34:18.840 --> 2:34:21.520 own self. So like that, how do we what's the 2:34:21.560 --> 2:34:23.480 word to replace it? Ain't I tried to replace it 2:34:23.560 --> 2:34:30.440 with slime. That ain't it. That's my thigh. You know 2:34:30.480 --> 2:34:32.640 what I'm saying, because I was trying to, like, you know, 2:34:33.480 --> 2:34:37.960 one everybody ain't yet in word and to everybody ancient 2:34:38.040 --> 2:34:40.520 slime like the way they use slime right now, from 2:34:40.600 --> 2:34:43.160 Young Doug to the gang members. It's like, I'm kind 2:34:43.160 --> 2:34:44.800 of mad. Did I get y'all that? You know what 2:34:44.800 --> 2:34:47.080 I'm saying? Like that was on the first person. That 2:34:47.240 --> 2:34:51.440 was me trying to actually replace the in world, trying 2:34:51.480 --> 2:34:55.160 to say something else. But then I realized slime itself 2:34:55.360 --> 2:34:58.320 is also a negative kind of you know what I mean, 2:34:58.360 --> 2:35:02.680 because it's like, yo, nobody flim right like, So yeah, 2:35:02.760 --> 2:35:04.400 that was I think what I think what happened was 2:35:04.640 --> 2:35:08.480 and everybody ain't your brother neither. I hate that's the fact. 2:35:08.560 --> 2:35:12.120 Let me just say this. A lot of people in 2:35:12.240 --> 2:35:14.280 this industry that I that I love and that I 2:35:14.440 --> 2:35:17.840 call brother, right, but then I see who they call brother, 2:35:18.120 --> 2:35:20.440 and it's like, it kind of doubts me of my 2:35:20.560 --> 2:35:23.480 brotherhood with you because that dude that you just said 2:35:23.680 --> 2:35:26.680 my brother ain't your brother. You ever had a white 2:35:26.760 --> 2:35:31.480 dude call you brother? And it felt racist? Like logan 2:35:31.760 --> 2:35:40.000 like yeah, bro, you like come on, bro, like like 2:35:41.360 --> 2:35:46.960 to say, what are you saying? You're being funny? You know, 2:35:47.560 --> 2:35:50.600 let me say this. We got to go to Let 2:35:50.640 --> 2:35:52.840 me say this real quick. First of all, I want 2:35:52.879 --> 2:35:55.200 to salute you on the end world, Okay. I love that. 2:35:55.879 --> 2:35:57.440 I respect the growth of it because you saw me 2:35:57.640 --> 2:35:59.200 on the phone to it and I respect it. But 2:35:59.320 --> 2:36:02.240 I think what happened was, you know, one of the 2:36:02.360 --> 2:36:04.720 last things our people heard when they was throwing in 2:36:04.760 --> 2:36:07.560 the self getting that cell. Nigga right or die nigga 2:36:07.680 --> 2:36:10.320 and slavery. That word was used against us so bad. 2:36:10.400 --> 2:36:13.640 I think in modern times our people kind of flipped 2:36:13.640 --> 2:36:16.120 it like and use it more as a term of 2:36:16.280 --> 2:36:19.400 endem it. You that nigga or my nigga. You know 2:36:19.400 --> 2:36:21.440 what I'm saying expression to show up. Maybe we had 2:36:21.440 --> 2:36:24.720 the wrong direction, So I salute you on what you can. 2:36:24.760 --> 2:36:31.080 I say one thing forcuse you're about to cut my ship, yo. 2:36:31.520 --> 2:36:33.400 One thing we do that with not just that word. 2:36:33.480 --> 2:36:35.120 Look at what we did with dope. That ship is 2:36:35.160 --> 2:36:40.119 dope like them sniggers is crack, But dope is not offensive. 2:36:40.520 --> 2:36:43.480 You said dope was something that destroyed our community. There's 2:36:43.520 --> 2:36:46.160 there's people who can who can get into this room 2:36:46.240 --> 2:36:49.360 and you say dope like like my a fiend, go 2:36:49.720 --> 2:36:55.480 go and recovery. Want somebody, want somebody you know what, 2:36:56.080 --> 2:36:57.920 somebody grew up in a cane or they might say, 2:36:57.959 --> 2:37:01.160 oh they might dig you fresh. But nigga is offensive. 2:37:01.360 --> 2:37:04.160 Like it's like like we go on only the only 2:37:04.200 --> 2:37:06.440 the other. Because I wasn't to say something to me 2:37:07.120 --> 2:37:10.880 to me, I went out to clip one day and 2:37:11.720 --> 2:37:17.039 I was with a person that it's half and half, 2:37:17.680 --> 2:37:20.240 but the way they were saying it in this restaurant, 2:37:20.800 --> 2:37:22.720 it was like I was offended even though I know 2:37:22.840 --> 2:37:25.039 that they have too, and I was just like, yo, bro, 2:37:25.160 --> 2:37:27.640 can we keep this down like like like like when 2:37:27.680 --> 2:37:33.440 you like my nigga, I was and my nigga and 2:37:33.680 --> 2:37:37.160 like every other race ever study Have you ever study 2:37:37.200 --> 2:37:38.200 the word niggas n. 2:37:38.200 --> 2:37:38.640 E g u. 2:37:38.720 --> 2:37:41.080 I don't want to make out of it because I 2:37:41.120 --> 2:37:44.440 was at and yeah, I don't want to. Somebody was 2:37:44.520 --> 2:37:46.080 using it and I was like you, I'm like because 2:37:46.080 --> 2:37:48.440 I'm thinking they using it because I don't mean it. 2:37:48.600 --> 2:37:50.080 I know what it means in America. I know what 2:37:50.160 --> 2:37:52.560 it means to our grandmothers. I know what it means 2:37:52.600 --> 2:37:54.320 to our grand but I don't think that means that 2:37:54.440 --> 2:37:56.080 to us. I think it just means I see a 2:37:56.160 --> 2:37:58.520 cat like that nigga try to scratch me. I'm not 2:37:58.680 --> 2:38:01.920 thinking about it. Just means, man, just just I love 2:38:02.000 --> 2:38:04.760 this thing. And then I like, I like the growth 2:38:05.160 --> 2:38:07.560 respect because I do. I do respect you. I mean, 2:38:07.600 --> 2:38:10.199 we are cocky those people. We're gonna beat those people. 2:38:10.280 --> 2:38:11.880 Right Like the other day on the internet, it was 2:38:11.920 --> 2:38:16.000 this white Cuban guy talking about he's white of the kid. 2:38:16.160 --> 2:38:18.200 The kid white and he walked out and he was 2:38:18.200 --> 2:38:20.080 like yo. He was like yo, my nigga, my nigga. 2:38:20.160 --> 2:38:22.000 And the black dude just checked him, was like are 2:38:22.040 --> 2:38:24.080 you black like like and he was like no, but 2:38:24.120 --> 2:38:29.640 I'm Cuban and it was like yeah, but your persona 2:38:29.720 --> 2:38:32.640 doesn't indicate your Cuban. I see no Cuban bees. I 2:38:32.879 --> 2:38:34.400 thought you was just white and I just hug hooked 2:38:34.400 --> 2:38:37.480 off on you. It wouldn't have been wrong, right, So 2:38:37.640 --> 2:38:39.920 I'm sorry to get deep on this, but I just 2:38:40.000 --> 2:38:41.800 wanted to say that we was tormented by that world 2:38:41.879 --> 2:38:43.720 so much. I feel like we flipped it. Yeah, no, 2:38:44.280 --> 2:38:46.320 it don't bother us. Yeah, term of endement, you know 2:38:46.360 --> 2:38:49.320 what I'm saying. You'll get words power. You get words 2:38:49.360 --> 2:38:53.840 their power. We give words the power. Like like when 2:38:53.879 --> 2:38:57.600 I was in prison, all the god bodies turned into bloods, 2:38:57.720 --> 2:39:01.600 right I was around in that timebody was godbody around 2:39:01.680 --> 2:39:05.960 around ninety four ninety Bluddy Larry, they went, we went 2:39:06.040 --> 2:39:10.440 from god. They wanted to Larry. If you're calling your something, 2:39:10.520 --> 2:39:12.960 I'm the guard. I'm a dog. Like you just want 2:39:13.040 --> 2:39:16.080 to call yourselfing from a God to a dog, something 2:39:16.120 --> 2:39:20.600 that walks on that balls but anything else parton me. No, No, 2:39:20.760 --> 2:39:22.960 I just want to say, man, thanks to y'all. You 2:39:22.959 --> 2:39:26.400 know what I mean. Let me. I want to write 2:39:26.440 --> 2:39:29.280 that balls on wheels The Journey to Save Hip Hop 2:39:29.360 --> 2:39:32.080 the short filmed the album out there on all digital platforms, 2:39:32.160 --> 2:39:33.520 and I just want to salute you real quick, and 2:39:33.600 --> 2:39:35.320 to be too right on to me real quick. I 2:39:35.360 --> 2:39:36.760 want to salute you because I seen when you first 2:39:36.760 --> 2:39:40.920 started this and now everybody doing it. Everybody why? And 2:39:41.040 --> 2:39:43.280 also you know what you was up to it first? 2:39:43.400 --> 2:39:45.880 What is he doing? Now? You're one of the biggest platforms. 2:39:49.120 --> 2:39:56.440 You know what shut the tiger bone? 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