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Speaker 1: I just listened to this brother album this morning. I
Speaker 1: can't believe how great, how refreshing, how we're fine, how
Speaker 1: much powerful it sounds. Sounds like like like him himself
Speaker 1: belongs in the era of the nineties, but the music
Speaker 1: that he made right now is right now. Like I'm
Speaker 1: listening to this album, I'm like, Wow, this is an
Speaker 1: album was an ep EP because it's seven songs. I
Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you, but I wanted to let
Speaker 1: you get it on ok so Yo. I'm listening and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this is real hip hop. This is
Speaker 1: really what we need. You know what I mean this?
Speaker 1: This brother is a lyrical genius. He's a bar for ball.
Speaker 1: No one can fuck with him. He's a he's a legend,
Speaker 1: and he came in through this game to a legend,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna salute him. We won't give him his
Speaker 1: flowers today because this year is something that we got
Speaker 1: to talk about. Thank you. In case you don't know
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Speaker 1: motherfucker I appreciate at that bro. The album is like
Speaker 1: that ship is that shit is something like I was like,
Speaker 1: we were just sitting there like this, like I ain't
Speaker 1: been like we ain't been quiet like this, and the
Speaker 1: album come on, like right, So how did you make that?
Speaker 1: I took my time, man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: a lot of time, you know, I'm more trying to
Speaker 1: be consistent, but with this one, me and my brother
Speaker 1: Sean too, Man, I really took my time. I probably
Speaker 1: was working on it, no bullshit for like a year
Speaker 1: and a half, and not because it took that long,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to take baby steps, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And what I like about it is. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I say that this project is the best one of
Speaker 1: my projects ever was ever received by the people. Right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you created, you see a certain way and
Speaker 1: then when you put it out, they'd be like, huh right,
Speaker 1: the envision did they didn't get together it for us.
Speaker 1: But this ship, like it really resonated with the people. Man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So here you say that
Speaker 1: men not okay. So, so now let me ask you
Speaker 1: that question again. Is this considered that EP or this
Speaker 1: It's definitely seven songs because it's sure, it's five, it's
Speaker 1: five and a bonus, you know. Okay, So I would
Speaker 1: say it's an EP slash short film though, Okay, So
Speaker 1: I wanted to do something that was never done before.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean when I when I did
Speaker 1: it like that? Okay, damn, I'm doing a short film too,
Speaker 1: So I want you to. But you know what, Let's
Speaker 1: let's let's get it out the way right now. Right
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's let's break down each song. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you and let's break it. Let's break it down. Okay.
Speaker 1: First of what's the name of the album. The name
Speaker 1: of the album is bars On Wheels, Bars on Wheel
Speaker 1: A journey to save hip hop. Now listen, listen to
Speaker 1: me before we get into this. If you're a person
Speaker 1: that love, here's what's good about this. It's not just bars.
Speaker 1: You pick the right fucking beasts. Like I'm listening to
Speaker 1: this ship and no bullshit, I'm not trying to glaze you,
Speaker 1: but no bullshit. I've listened to the beats and I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Pap could have probably picked beats for
Speaker 1: me and ma beat back. Then that's how all these
Speaker 1: beats sounding. We're going with the lyrics, but let's go
Speaker 1: Okay for Speed, Yes, need for Speed is the opening track,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you got to remember
Speaker 1: the audio is very consistent with the visual. So in
Speaker 1: the opening scene, you see me driving in the Rose
Speaker 1: Royce and you know, I mean, of course, my producers
Speaker 1: in the back seat. So I'm bringing back that that
Speaker 1: I want to say, I'm bringing it. I want to
Speaker 1: say I'm bringing back because you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't do it here and there, but artists and
Speaker 1: producer like really in the studio together, really working together,
Speaker 1: really getting that chemistry. So you see my brother Sean
Speaker 1: two in the back seat, and I mean he doing
Speaker 1: the beat and yes, okay in the visual individual to
Speaker 1: Need for Speed were in the Rose Royce and were
Speaker 1: in the double lof eventually the police pull us over.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's basically self explanatory. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you follow me on Instagram
Speaker 1: over the years, you always see me wrapping in the car.
Speaker 1: And then you got certain people going to comments you
Speaker 1: know how it is. They're like, Okay, he's spend five,
Speaker 1: but where he's going? You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm want to I'm on the journey to save hip hop.
Speaker 1: So that's what That's how this project was birth. So
Speaker 1: Need for Speed is just to open the scene to
Speaker 1: that of me me driving and I got the need
Speaker 1: for Speed because you know, nowadays it's just the way
Speaker 1: hip hop is going. You know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: really like it, damn. So there is some good ship
Speaker 1: in hip hop. Absolutely, we got who we got? Do
Speaker 1: we name people or we can move on? We can't.
Speaker 1: We got some good people. What a lot of people.
Speaker 1: It's not just artists either, man.
Speaker 2: Remember, I think when we have these conversations about hip hop,
Speaker 2: we just talk about just the MC's or the rappers,
Speaker 2: and there's so many different facets and elements to hip
Speaker 2: hop that we forget everything else.
Speaker 1: Hip hop is not just talking.
Speaker 2: I'm saying like there's the graffiti artists, the DJs, the breakdances,
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of people that go unmentioned when we.
Speaker 1: Have these conversations.
Speaker 2: Hip hop is in a good place or a bad place, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, right, of.
Speaker 1: Course, Well it's five elements, you know. I mean, case Ling
Speaker 1: told us that, right, So it's not just wrap one
Speaker 1: hundred percent right about that. But that's why I always
Speaker 1: also wanted to incorporate my producer, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: equally as incorporated myself being rock. Yeah he did through
Speaker 1: the whole time, through the whole visual. You see him
Speaker 1: there with me, you know what I mean. Okay, So
Speaker 1: now so the Big Three, Yes, the second joint, we
Speaker 1: get pulled over by the police. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So the Big Three another track that self explained it
Speaker 1: to me. You know what I mean? You got they
Speaker 1: say that the Big Three? Who's the Big Three? And
Speaker 1: guin these guys pause? Yeah, well okay, okay, Well yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a line in there where I say, you know,
Speaker 1: it's Kevin Garnet, ray Allen and who else? Poor Pierce,
Speaker 1: And then it was I believe they even Lebron and
Speaker 1: them right Lebron, Wade and Bosh and Bosh and so
Speaker 1: it's a lot of it right well. And it's a
Speaker 1: line in there where I say, I respect the Big Three,
Speaker 1: but they're like kids to me. I've been nicer to
Speaker 1: know these niggas since Big was three. So that's that's
Speaker 1: the line right there. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it kind of speaks for itself, the Big Three, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right right there? Boom And then
Speaker 1: you saying that, you say in the Big Three, you
Speaker 1: said you can't return once you cross burn the bridge? Absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: it's no coming back that Yeah. A lot of times, man,
Speaker 1: you know, people cross you and you know, they think
Speaker 1: the grass is greener and they get over there and
Speaker 1: it is greener because it's fake, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right aft. And when when they realized that, then
Speaker 1: they try to come back, they try to bust that.
Speaker 1: You turn and it's like, nah, okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's what that's what that's about but
Speaker 1: the entire project. If you pay attention, it's me on
Speaker 1: the journey to save hip Hop. So when I get
Speaker 1: pulled over, the police come to the car, Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: why are you pulling me over for driving while black?
Speaker 1: He goes on, I tell him about you. I got
Speaker 1: an injured man in the back seat. That's hip Hop.
Speaker 1: So I'm taking hip Hop to the hospital. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got So this
Speaker 1: is the concept. You know, I get pulled over. I'm
Speaker 1: on my way to take hip Hop to the to
Speaker 1: the hospital because it's injured. He pulled me over, he
Speaker 1: locked me up, and now you see me in the
Speaker 1: cop car. That's the second track. The third track, the
Speaker 1: paramedics come transport hip Hop to the hospital. I'm driving
Speaker 1: a paramedic truck. You know what I'm saying As I'm
Speaker 1: driving the paramedic truck. Eventually we go to the to
Speaker 1: the robbery scene where in the process we're trying to
Speaker 1: get money to finance our rap careers. So we ended up,
Speaker 1: you know, hijacking the Brinks truck. It's a short film.
Speaker 1: Now you see me driving the Brinks truck doing that track.
Speaker 1: The next track is the hearts hip hop passed away?
Speaker 1: Couldn't save it? You know what I'm saying, which is
Speaker 1: a fetanold hold one hold on, You're going through fast
Speaker 1: because fronting off. Yes, as soon as I heard that,
Speaker 1: I immediately got the feeling of I gave you power
Speaker 1: like you know that. You know what I'm saying. This
Speaker 1: is a metaphors right right Boa, How did you come
Speaker 1: up with that? A lot of if you look at
Speaker 1: at our culture, men, a lot of the young artists
Speaker 1: and just a lot of the younger generation, they losing
Speaker 1: their lives to feed, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I feel like all of these different things contributed to
Speaker 1: the demise of hip hop as well, but also the
Speaker 1: demise of our people and just us as a people.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So if you listen to
Speaker 1: the song, I named a couple of people, a couple
Speaker 1: of young artists and a couple of individuals, Mat Miller,
Speaker 1: you know who loft their lives to fetanoel Damn. I
Speaker 1: can't remember who else I did. I did Mac Miller,
Speaker 1: I did my God well, Coolio Coolio, I did mac Miller,
Speaker 1: I did Coolio, I did that the actor I can't
Speaker 1: remember his name right now. I broke down his story
Speaker 1: as well, But you got to listen to it, man,
Speaker 1: And I'm just breaking down how you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people losing their lives to fetanol, how dangerous and
Speaker 1: how serious that ship is. Man. Now you said something
Speaker 1: in the song that you said even and we find
Speaker 1: and all could be in there. Oh yeah, but I
Speaker 1: thought findon was the white ship. Man. It comes to it.
Speaker 1: They putting it, They're putting it in a lot of
Speaker 1: different things, and we don't know it. That's why you
Speaker 1: gotta be careful. Like the red number die. You know
Speaker 1: that the ship food. Yeah, man, it's worse, way worse,
Speaker 1: twenty many times worse than that. And the ship is
Speaker 1: dangerous and a lot of people don't know they slipping
Speaker 1: it in there. Next thing, you know, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, You got a bet situation, all right, and some.
Speaker 2: People doing it on purpose too, all right, they actually
Speaker 2: do fending off all right, exactly crazy, which is real crazy,
Speaker 2: playing with your life. So that track is about that
Speaker 2: man just creating a weirdness about you know, how fat
Speaker 2: noise deshowing a lot of lives. Okay, Now the next
Speaker 2: one I said, what I said, yeah, definitely, man, another
Speaker 2: joint man, self explanatory, just breaking down. Man, I'm an executive,
Speaker 2: back to back business moves consecutive positive by everything you
Speaker 2: doing is negative. My residence is on the throne where
Speaker 2: all the legends live. Is evident that you reside where
Speaker 2: all the peasants live. Never give to the ungrateful what
Speaker 2: is imperative. Don't appreciate it because they don't got no
Speaker 2: respect to give. Some say family ain't everything, but yes
Speaker 2: it is. The lesson is it don't make us family
Speaker 2: just because we relatives.
Speaker 1: On the noise. Man, Okay, chill back, no chill button. Man.
Speaker 1: You know anybody who know me? Man, I've been doing
Speaker 1: this for a long time. But when they put the
Speaker 1: lights on me, and they shine that light on me,
Speaker 1: I said black love. What I'm saying, I come from
Speaker 1: the street. But when when when he really paid attention
Speaker 1: to me? I represented black love, man, which is black empowerment,
Speaker 1: which is everything about us as people. But once you
Speaker 1: cross that line, you get a different version of me.
Speaker 1: And I don't got no chill, but I'm gonna go in.
Speaker 1: So so that's what that song is about. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's about getting pushed that limit. Now now I don't
Speaker 1: got no chill button. Okay Green count Green, we getting
Speaker 1: no No, I was spoken at the Okay count Green,
Speaker 1: we getting money. Man, it's the better day. Man. We
Speaker 1: eat and we're doing good out here. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Shout the shout to Win Records, man, shout
Speaker 1: to my Win Records family. Man, we're getting a lot
Speaker 1: of money.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Now that's on Tom call. No okay, no, so so
Speaker 1: explain that before we cant Green. Yeah, well there are
Speaker 1: you still yeah? No, no, no more okay, no son
Speaker 1: doing moved on? Okay, I Win Records, Win Records, Yes,
Speaker 1: w w Y yes, yes, like the hotel and Vegas.
Speaker 1: Well he might he might come at you. No he can't.
Speaker 1: He can't. Man. We we we've been incorporated a long time.
Speaker 1: When I see that, I can see that now my
Speaker 1: Win Records family. Man, we're doing a lot of big things. Man.
Speaker 1: We do a lot of concerts. A lot of the
Speaker 1: concerts you see. You might not know what it's us.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, you know what I mean. We did
Speaker 1: Legis at the West Uh. We did some concert down
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. We had the Mally's and a bunch of
Speaker 1: people down there too, where you are. Africa. We did
Speaker 1: we did some tours down in Africa and we're doing
Speaker 1: a lot of big things. We just did the big
Speaker 1: deal with my lady, Clarisa Shills with teams. That was
Speaker 1: the leading promotions. You know what I'm saying. She got
Speaker 1: that eight million dollar deal. So I was able to
Speaker 1: make that happen. Man, just let you know. I'm just
Speaker 1: letting you know. You know what I mean. I see
Speaker 1: our guest hosts came in the building. He gonna be
Speaker 1: our guest hosts. Grab yeah, grab cheer Yeah yeah. How's
Speaker 1: you got the mic? Then that's crazy over there. That's
Speaker 1: what's up man already still can't you well over there?
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, yeah, that's about to say that. Given extra,
Speaker 1: let's do what you know. You're good. I'm telling man's
Speaker 1: Brian and my huh yeah, man, my man over here
Speaker 1: a mother Connecticut. You called me last you can make
Speaker 1: it to drinks doing that. I'm doing the bird help me,
Speaker 1: he said. See that's how you know my you know,
Speaker 1: we started at one. Didn't get in there. What I
Speaker 1: told me was said, yo, Pap Pop coming through. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm jumping on the bird on the So all right,
Speaker 1: so I I just want to reiterate that. So you
Speaker 1: dropped this project on your own label. I dropped it
Speaker 1: on Win Records, but I'm actually an executive at Win Records. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: is that so Win has distribution as well? Is it
Speaker 1: a one stop shop or they have no no empire? No, no,
Speaker 1: no empire. We actually distributed it's Win Records distributed through
Speaker 1: United Masters. Okay, I'm over there. Yeah, that's his that's
Speaker 1: his movement. Yeah, okay, So we actually distributed this project
Speaker 1: over there, and we wanted to do it like that
Speaker 1: because we wanted to take a very unique approach. Like
Speaker 1: I said, it's a short fum. It's not just about
Speaker 1: the EP. I mean, music is my passion, but I
Speaker 1: just wanted to really give them a visual of myself
Speaker 1: on the journey to save hip hop. Okay, now, it's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite questions. You know what I'm going
Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite questions the major Look,
Speaker 1: you got a chance to do both and you was
Speaker 1: on Job Records with that big budget. That's the fact.
Speaker 1: I remember that was the biggest movement in the hip hop,
Speaker 1: but it in the room where it was the truth like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I believe Buster was a
Speaker 1: part of that. Yeah, Yeah, Buster was locked in with Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all came together. Chris Lighty, Chris Lighty violated. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you got a chance to deal with the majors. You
Speaker 1: got a chance to deal with the Independence. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lead the witness. I'm gonna tell you what I
Speaker 1: what I but what do you prefer? Independent? I know
Speaker 1: I just wanted to change. Oh no, I still I
Speaker 1: still stick to it, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: the majors, you know, I like the major different type
Speaker 1: of major doesn't even exist exist no more. You was
Speaker 1: happy with them from the era the major Buster romes,
Speaker 1: he said around he wait for a distributive deal, like
Speaker 1: even though he's super indipend it right now, like he's like,
Speaker 1: we're scarred, man, Like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: they just don't want to set want to go back
Speaker 1: to the Like, man, I think I think if Independent
Speaker 1: is done right, you know what I'm saying, it could
Speaker 1: feel like like a major. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What made me, you know what made me really respect
Speaker 1: the independent game when I started with Tech Now, that's
Speaker 1: when I seen the kind of bread they made. They
Speaker 1: killing that. So hold on you since silly prefer independence,
Speaker 1: tell me about because you got first of all, you
Speaker 1: got freedom. You don't got nobody sitting in the office.
Speaker 1: You got to bring the music. Could you imagine me
Speaker 1: bringing balls on wheels to the office. We need a
Speaker 1: radio record. They would they would have turned me around
Speaker 1: like you got you got creative control, You got your
Speaker 1: own freedom. And you know old boy, yeah, man, oh boy,
Speaker 1: they just got he was you know they was, they
Speaker 1: were doing us cool. You was a boy, he Bro,
Speaker 1: he Bro, I want to get straight into the wing
Speaker 1: like damn being packed some drinks yea at the same time.
Speaker 1: And so we both we knew what it was like
Speaker 1: during that erar to mixtapeund now she was not making
Speaker 1: me naive right now, because I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I have never suffered the wrath of he Bro like
Speaker 1: I have never if there was a wrap, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not accusing him of something. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You haven't come on, come on work, But I swear
Speaker 1: to God, so like hearing you say that just now,
Speaker 1: you made a face. I hate what happened. I was
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, yeah, I seen your.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: At the point, I was like, I'm killing this motherfucker
Speaker 1: like got I wasn't it was that bad because you
Speaker 1: gotta look at it like this, right when you work
Speaker 1: something something your whole life. I've been rappings how ten
Speaker 1: years old, working my whole life, not even really to
Speaker 1: get a deal at first. But then once I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm good at this shit. I started imprisoning my whole bed.
Speaker 1: Stay off of the ship. I'm in there rapping this time.
Speaker 1: I'm getting through my time. So I'm like damn, I
Speaker 1: thinking I'm good enough to really make something happen. I
Speaker 1: come home. I'm bumping in the pack in front of
Speaker 1: High ninety seven. We're like you, I was here first
Speaker 1: outside case later come that wait for anybody to give up.
Speaker 1: I was talking to two tone. He's like, yo, remember
Speaker 1: you sold me your CD in Crown Heights and ship
Speaker 1: you came up and you came here and sow men
Speaker 1: the CDs. So me and me and son had the
Speaker 1: same ground. So we try and try and work on
Speaker 1: our ass to get a deal. We finally get here
Speaker 1: and the nigga could just come sweep all that shit
Speaker 1: from under the ruck because he's in the position of power.
Speaker 1: I was on Atlantic. They are radio driven label. If
Speaker 1: you banned from the radio, they not gonna put a penny.
Speaker 1: Once the nigga bamed me, they said, we're not investing
Speaker 1: another cent. That's crazy. And me and Ebro was friends.
Speaker 1: I'm calling this nigga like, please, man, this is my
Speaker 1: shot or my whole life to get here. I got
Speaker 1: a j Z record in it can We're gonna make
Speaker 1: the record look like it's blowing up so bad Jay
Speaker 1: jumped on. We had the whole rollout, just Blade saying
Speaker 1: when that nigga bamed me, just stopped picking up the
Speaker 1: phole nigger niggas crash out and they ready thought I
Speaker 1: was a crash out already, so it made him look like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this niggas just a fuck up. We ain't gonna invest
Speaker 1: no money in them. I'm like, yo, e bro, But
Speaker 1: nobody got hurt, nobody got shot, nobody, no police came.
Speaker 1: Why the fuck would you ban me for right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: nigga says, it's my policy. My g that's crazy. Now,
Speaker 1: how about you. My kids saved that nigga life. Now,
Speaker 1: did you have as a discrepancy with Hebro. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: my thing is this man, It's no secret that it
Speaker 1: was real challenging getting music played, whether you hot or not.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking like you could be on fire,
Speaker 1: and getting records played was just like some fuck. We
Speaker 1: always going on like it's it's videos to me up
Speaker 1: there telling he Bro like, Yo, you know, when I'm
Speaker 1: in the South, I hit South artists right, and I'm
Speaker 1: on the West, I hear West artists when I come
Speaker 1: to New York. You know what I'm saying, gumbo, So
Speaker 1: so you know a lot to you. I've been hearing
Speaker 1: Miami step it up. But ahead, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but nah, I mean definitely, I don't think it should
Speaker 1: have been like that. I do think New York City
Speaker 1: would have been in a better place if it was,
Speaker 1: you know, if we was letting the people dictated instead
Speaker 1: of the politics dictate. Who you know, who gets that
Speaker 1: fish shot? Like like Sagon was saying, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, get a moment. At one point, we were
Speaker 1: so being denied I can't say it was Ebos for it,
Speaker 1: but we were so being denied New York getting played
Speaker 1: on New York stations that New York artists started to
Speaker 1: try to sound that's what happened to the South. They
Speaker 1: tried to start to act like what's happening. You agree
Speaker 1: with that? Yeah, I agree with that. You agree. And
Speaker 1: it's funny because Rosenberg, they just Rosenberg is posted something.
Speaker 1: He's saying, Oh, ween't fuck up New York hip hop
Speaker 1: and fucked up when niggas start trying to copycat, trying
Speaker 1: to he said that one motherfuckers trying to sound like
Speaker 1: the South and started trying to. I'm like, because dudes
Speaker 1: felt like they had to make them kind of records
Speaker 1: to get on the radio. So the dudes started feeling like, damn, oh,
Speaker 1: they're playing a bunch of ship, they playing Nelly, they
Speaker 1: playing all these these records that not from our region.
Speaker 1: So maybe we got to switch our little drawl and
Speaker 1: our ship to start doing collaborations with dudes from out
Speaker 1: because we felt like that's what we needed to do
Speaker 1: get on the radio. Because that's the I think. I think.
Speaker 1: I think they was playing it for so long that
Speaker 1: when a younger generation came up, that's only her now.
Speaker 1: That's what drill is, so they't have a chance to
Speaker 1: get inspired by you know what I'm saying, what does
Speaker 1: that What is it called drill? That's one I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the styles on them. So that's what
Speaker 1: it's kind of like New York trap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like but but there's also the side of the
Speaker 2: pendulum swinging the whole way the other way, because the
Speaker 2: South and other regions felt they couldn't penetrate in New
Speaker 2: York at all, So it felt like it went all
Speaker 2: the way to the other side.
Speaker 1: You know what you mean when you say couldn't couldn't
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to use that word. You
Speaker 1: other regions.
Speaker 2: The mecca of everything hip hop industry and culturally was
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 1: Has always been New York from the birth to when
Speaker 1: you'll started hip hop. So what I'm saying so I
Speaker 1: felt like, Bro, this is I'm gonna be honest and
Speaker 1: everybody know, I just debate. Let's go. Everybody know I
Speaker 1: love every every city, every state. I traveled freely, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But and not all places, but
Speaker 1: some places they kind of mad at us because we
Speaker 1: created hip hop. No, but nobody part of it. I
Speaker 1: always say, I don't know, because he's created hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's a different man. That's probably the reason why. But
Speaker 1: you didn't let me. Let me just finish right, And
Speaker 1: I want to tell y'all, it's not our fault.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Like niggas is like mad at New York niggas. It's
Speaker 1: not like you know what I'm saying. And because they
Speaker 1: mad what the executives digit them. I think they kind
Speaker 1: of mad because at one point of time, since hip
Speaker 1: hop started in New York City, and it's a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing that everybody do it everywhere now, but at one
Speaker 1: point in time, they had to look to the city
Speaker 1: for hip hop, they had to look and they kind
Speaker 1: of felt like they were taking a back seat. I
Speaker 1: don't really know. Let me rebuttal to that, I think
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 2: I don't think people were mad because it started in
Speaker 2: New York because if you think about it, everybody that
Speaker 2: was hip hop from everywhere they went on a pilgrimage
Speaker 2: to New York.
Speaker 1: We all would go to New York. As a DJ,
Speaker 1: I would go drive.
Speaker 2: At sixteen drive all the way up to the East Coast,
Speaker 2: all the way to get to New York to buy records.
Speaker 1: I saw people from all different states and cities doing that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the case.
Speaker 2: What it is that the industry, a lot of the
Speaker 2: industry was there because that's where it started. So the
Speaker 2: culture in the industry was there, so in order to
Speaker 2: get deals, to get signed, you had to go through there.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the A and R.
Speaker 2: I would full them, No, it's not your it's not
Speaker 2: your fault, always told them it's if there was an.
Speaker 1: Artist for so why do they hate because of that?
Speaker 1: A long time? Give me example of hate my nigga,
Speaker 1: my nigga, pirst of all all that timberling jokes. It
Speaker 1: is hate my niggat comedy. But I'm just saying it's
Speaker 1: hate disguise that's coming. You know. He had to hate
Speaker 1: the man.
Speaker 2: People clowning on the South and because it's nobody was
Speaker 2: clowning listen, calling people country it was happening.
Speaker 1: I don't like that, nah, bro, I'm telling you man,
Speaker 1: niggas is mad because of the pop started them. I
Speaker 1: don't think tell you man, I don't think that's telling you.
Speaker 1: It was always like a disconnect with down South from
Speaker 1: New Yorkers. Because I seen the dude the other day.
Speaker 1: He was like young Joe was better than rock kim
Speaker 1: I said this nigga smoke like I'm like, yo, he's smoke. Okay.
Speaker 1: I like the guy. He's better, man better. But by
Speaker 1: the way you comparing apples the arms. Even back then,
Speaker 1: back in the day, there was a disconnecting. But aside
Speaker 1: from music, like when we used to come down, like
Speaker 1: we all have family in the South, Black family in
Speaker 1: the South. So when we would come down here we
Speaker 1: was young. They look at us like we was from
Speaker 1: the future type ship. You know what I'm saying, Like, yah,
Speaker 1: that's another thing to yo, yo, what the is those
Speaker 1: niagas or what's the new music or because not to
Speaker 1: say they were slow with you know, New York is
Speaker 1: New York City, city in the world everything. So back then,
Speaker 1: I think once they got on once they once once,
Speaker 1: once the South started rocking, they was like, yah, niggas
Speaker 1: now he said the South to say everywhere everywhere people
Speaker 1: from the ship with the Wests literally said when I
Speaker 1: say the niggas like yeah, they't make it all better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Camp did the interview your New York niggas go everywhere
Speaker 1: they think they they think they whatever the he said,
Speaker 1: niggas running with that ship. We should have never said
Speaker 1: that boy, like, come on, man, they gotta stop hating
Speaker 1: this man, let us live. Man. Yeah, man, you know, listen, bro,
Speaker 1: we can't we can't say it. We just said it ourselves, right.
Speaker 1: A lot of the artists that was coming up would
Speaker 1: sounded like they was from where out of New York
Speaker 1: right right, So we love the South, bro, we embrace y'all. Man,
Speaker 1: but don't be mad at us because hip hop started,
Speaker 1: you know, not for real. So like, I don't agree
Speaker 1: with that. We love, we love you. Just see like
Speaker 1: I like future music, and I'm saying I like t
Speaker 1: I I bump a lot of South audists. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I funk with their music. So again,
Speaker 1: it goes back in reverse.
Speaker 2: If you listen to a lot of the artists in
Speaker 2: the late eighties early nineties from anywhere else, they were
Speaker 2: all trying to sound like New York art.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you like this right now,
Speaker 1: the artist right now was well, listen to your project though.
Speaker 1: You see how I said, this is a breath of
Speaker 1: fresh air. This so it's lyricol the beast is doing it.
Speaker 1: A lot of people they it's so fucked up in
Speaker 1: the music business, right now I see people frowning upon lyricism.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, like what They're like, Yo, the facill
Speaker 1: he's running like I like, and I'm like, yo, we
Speaker 1: fucked up? Man, Like like when they when they justing
Speaker 1: lyrical and people ain't stepping up because when you saw
Speaker 1: this in Liverpool, that shit has no geographic to it.
Speaker 1: Well everybody artists everywhere, right, I tell you what what
Speaker 1: I think, man. I think like when when sayon going
Speaker 1: to poost is on top poles, Like what I mean, bro,
Speaker 1: A lot of niggas ain't gonna have jumps because they
Speaker 1: need the ball to be low. They needed not to
Speaker 1: be teaching through the music, not to have concepts, not
Speaker 1: to have lyricism. Like you said, I was reading the
Speaker 1: fake pretend like they hating on the livers. But niggas
Speaker 1: consume music different because that NAS album right now, NAS
Speaker 1: and Primo album. I'm like just saying the album you're
Speaker 1: gonna get on one listen. Niggas sit down listening to
Speaker 1: some ship one time like oh it's trash or it's
Speaker 1: a classic, or they have music work. Man, you got
Speaker 1: to sit there and digest that ship. I ain't up
Speaker 1: from my first listen I was like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: Then I went back. I said, nah, this is nas
Speaker 1: in Primo. Maybe I'm missing something. I listened again. By
Speaker 1: the fourth listen, I was like, this might be one
Speaker 1: of my tops like this. That's why I'm like, we
Speaker 1: don't we consume music different than these? They first time
Speaker 1: mother fuckers know the words of the whole song. We're
Speaker 1: here in it once because it's so simple. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a catchphrase or huck something simple, something jingle to
Speaker 1: catch on to. Niggas had to push that pin. Back
Speaker 1: in the day, you had to go push them. Nigga
Speaker 1: had to be like ooh ah when you rap.
Speaker 2: You guys, don't think that the labels had a hand
Speaker 2: in dumb and down the music, because of course now
Speaker 2: you have less talented artists that you could cycle out whenever.
Speaker 1: We get the ring the ring tone ship took us
Speaker 1: to put us oute of this, I would say, But
Speaker 1: I would say it was artists following artists. Like if
Speaker 1: an artist see that, I mean, how many different versions
Speaker 1: of a record you would hear like, oh okay, utter something,
Speaker 1: another record would sound just like it, and another label
Speaker 1: that was illegal back just the hip hops, When did
Speaker 1: that become cool though. Yeah, but you know what it
Speaker 1: is when uh and I probably had something to do
Speaker 1: with this, like when you have people like Paral like
Speaker 1: giving me like super Doug and then oh no, it
Speaker 1: didn't sound the same, but you could tell that was
Speaker 1: the same producers in that area that I think mister
Speaker 1: Cool had a record, and then j Z had a
Speaker 1: regular sounding just like it that time, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's like back in the day. Remember
Speaker 1: I got the power Ship Niggas the same concepts though
Speaker 1: even came and stepping, and they still didn't sound like
Speaker 1: each other. And then that's one thing about back then,
Speaker 1: anybody sounded different. Like eighties, you have to come with
Speaker 1: your own style. Do you think you belong in the nineties,
Speaker 1: Like you know, if you could pick yourself where like
Speaker 1: let me replace my music, what era, what era? Where ever?
Speaker 1: Would you pick? Oh yeah, I would have definitely came
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, I was. It seemed more authentic, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was cool, substance was there.
Speaker 1: Everything was did I like y'all just having mad fun?
Speaker 1: We checked the wein checked the budget. If we're going
Speaker 1: you have to be with you, right It was. It
Speaker 1: was dope crazy. I thought about this the other day,
Speaker 1: and ship the dmxans is just check into a hotel
Speaker 1: room and just smoke a bobie. You know, you know
Speaker 1: I fouled that ship is now smoke a cigarette DM
Speaker 1: Mexicans crazy. But you gotta you gotta actual record dedicated
Speaker 1: to d MX. Yeah I did. What made you do that? Man?
Speaker 1: I met x a couple of times. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, solid individual, and it was just a sad situation. Man.
Speaker 1: So I honestly, I just want to distribute him and
Speaker 1: show them some love. Okay, that's what you didn't include
Speaker 1: him in the fence and all record? No, I didn't, Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even know that that's what happened
Speaker 1: to him. I don't know neither I was fishing right
Speaker 1: now or not. I didn't put him in there now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, recipes to XO. So let's let's describe your
Speaker 1: relationship with case Slay. Yeah. I think I believe I
Speaker 1: spoke to you the other day, and I want to
Speaker 1: get into this too. I believe you said you and
Speaker 1: Bust have never had an argument. No, we didn't, And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you said you and Kate had
Speaker 1: an argument. Of course, I used to argue all the time.
Speaker 1: Before we get into the argument's let's talk about the beginning.
Speaker 1: How did you meet? Oh yeah, it's a long story, man.
Speaker 1: All I say is I was in a space of
Speaker 1: my life at that particular time. It wasn't really a
Speaker 1: good space, and I knew that I had to make
Speaker 1: a decision if I wanted to do music, which is
Speaker 1: something positive, or go to negative route, and I just
Speaker 1: would have been sucked up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I decided. And at that time, you wasn't getting
Speaker 1: in the game. If you wasn't on Rockefeller, Murder Inc.
Speaker 1: Or rough Rider, you just wasn't coming in. That's all
Speaker 1: you heard. But one day I was listening to the
Speaker 1: radio and I heard this this dude on the radio
Speaker 1: and he was playing new artists on the radio. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it when he's saying street slocking, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was just doing this ship and I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: this nigga. Did he just play somebody outside of one
Speaker 1: of those entities I just named. So I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I got to meet this dude. So I always kept
Speaker 1: that in the back of my mind and you know,
Speaker 1: I was in the street at the time. I found
Speaker 1: myself in a bad situation, and I said, Yo, when
Speaker 1: I get out of this situation, I'm going to meet
Speaker 1: that dude. You know what I'm saying. I looked up
Speaker 1: at the address HIG ninety seven, and I went up
Speaker 1: there and waited for him outside the radar. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: went up to the did I recorded a CD? Bro?
Speaker 1: I recorded, I think it was seven tracks. I had
Speaker 1: a mic in one hand and a gun in the
Speaker 1: other hand, and I recorded. I used to sell it
Speaker 1: out my trunk. But I went to the radio and
Speaker 1: I just waited for slave Bro. I looked at what
Speaker 1: time he came out, you know, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I probably looked him up in the fellow page. You
Speaker 1: had a CD in one hand and a gun on
Speaker 1: the on the cover. Oh, I think you take the
Speaker 1: CD or you get what you want. The name of
Speaker 1: the CD was in war. So I recorded, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying myself the whole ship. And I went
Speaker 1: up there and I waited for him, and Slake came out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, how was to
Speaker 1: me the fly ship and I gave him the city.
Speaker 1: He was all right, kept moving Win in the building.
Speaker 1: So I went back to the hook like you was
Speaker 1: going down. I'm about to be on the radio. I'm
Speaker 1: listening to everybody on the on the sidewalk. We got
Speaker 1: the system up and he ain't play the ship. Wow.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this is this is the next day
Speaker 1: after you gave him the CD. No, no, no, remember
Speaker 1: Slay come on twelve midnight. Okay, he's going in the radio.
Speaker 1: I think he's like, Yo, this nigga is going to
Speaker 1: play my song. Now we pull over, were listening. Oh
Speaker 1: it's two hours. He was going back then, so he
Speaker 1: didn't play. I said, damn, I'm gonna go back next
Speaker 1: week and do it again. I come back next week,
Speaker 1: same ship.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 1: Here you go, bropun, here you go. Man. My name
Speaker 1: is Pat Postman.
Speaker 3: He go.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, you know Slay serious, dude, man,
Speaker 1: he just kept it moving. I did it again. I
Speaker 1: listened again. He ain't play the shit again. I said, damn, man,
Speaker 1: next time this nigga. I get this nigga a CD.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna leave. I'm a wait. So when he
Speaker 1: come out, you wanna to explain to me why ain't
Speaker 1: playing my ship? Right? So I did that. I gave
Speaker 1: him the joint. I'm listening. It's like it's like one
Speaker 1: o'clock right. He still ain't played, but he like, yo,
Speaker 1: one hundred two two three ninety seven ninety seven number
Speaker 1: two Dad. I'm like, yo, I'm sitting in the car
Speaker 1: like your fuck that. I'm gonna call up. I calls
Speaker 1: up and as soon as he heard my voice, he
Speaker 1: knew it was me. I was like, yo, man, why
Speaker 1: do you play that? Nigga starts spashing over me on
Speaker 1: the radio. We're going matter of fact, it's not on
Speaker 1: the radio. Were going back and forth. It's on the
Speaker 1: hot line. What's on the hot line? But he ain't
Speaker 1: even know. He thought he was shipping on me. But
Speaker 1: he didn't even know. He made my day because while
Speaker 1: we're arguing, he came out of commercial and the argument
Speaker 1: filed onto the end waves. So I hear this ship.
Speaker 1: I'm in the car. I'm like, oh or somehow, So
Speaker 1: he begs the joint. He's like, yo, everybody can't be
Speaker 1: a rapper. Some people got to be a fire man.
Speaker 1: And he going in on him to retire. He's spash.
Speaker 1: I ain't even get started yet. He like he's pasting
Speaker 1: on the edge. So I'm like, damn, this nigga just violated.
Speaker 1: When this nigga come down, it's lit. So I'm waiting
Speaker 1: in the middle street and ship he come down. He
Speaker 1: see me. I see him walking dead towards each other.
Speaker 1: As soon as we get like face to face, the
Speaker 1: nigga that was with him came in between us and
Speaker 1: he took the CD from me. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I got you. For some reason, I believed him. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just left. I ain't gonna I feel defeated. Man.
Speaker 1: I went back to the hood, like, damn, man, it's over.
Speaker 1: The rap sh it ain't working, man. Niggas. Niggas just
Speaker 1: shit it on me, the whole ship. So now I'm
Speaker 1: back in the hood. At the time, the individual by
Speaker 1: the name of Born True. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was managing me, very well respected, very well known.
Speaker 1: He didn't won, who gave me yourself? And he had
Speaker 1: passed away. So I was going through a lot of
Speaker 1: things in my life at that time, and I actually
Speaker 1: attended his funeral that particular day. I got into a
Speaker 1: real bad situation and right when I'm about to throw
Speaker 1: my life away, this is no bullshit. I can't make
Speaker 1: this up. I jump in the car and we're trying
Speaker 1: to get out of there. My phone ringing in the
Speaker 1: process of the ship and I picked up the phone.
Speaker 1: It was Slate. I had my number on the CD.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I heard your CD. You on
Speaker 1: the show next week? Well, I mean the rest was history. Bro.
Speaker 1: When he said you on the show, he meant playing
Speaker 1: the record that he invited me. He was like, I
Speaker 1: want you to come up to the radio station live
Speaker 1: wrap on the edd A whole ship, I mean. So
Speaker 1: that shit was like life changed the moment for me, Bro,
Speaker 1: like all right, world, because I was just about to
Speaker 1: throw my life away. Man. He called in the midst
Speaker 1: of that and inviting me on the radio, which was
Speaker 1: a dream for me, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I went on the radio and rest in peace. Prodigy
Speaker 1: was there. Prodigy and somebody else was did like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and we all was spitting live
Speaker 1: on the air. Queen's niggas, put your brooks niggas. I
Speaker 1: did that same ship for fath. I remember that we
Speaker 1: was rapping on the man. But like I said, but
Speaker 1: for me, like I know nowadays they take this ship
Speaker 1: for granted, but this music ship, I'm not ashamed to
Speaker 1: say it was a dream for me. Bro So so
Speaker 1: boom from Casey who gets involved from there, Buster Rhymes
Speaker 1: or Chris Lightning. We kept grinding me and Slaye kept
Speaker 1: grinding for the loans. If you listen to the mixtape,
Speaker 1: Slave was fash and at the end of the air
Speaker 1: mixing better sign my nigga. So he took you under
Speaker 1: his wing right from that first, under his wing, from
Speaker 1: from from the from that moment on some better term
Speaker 1: me coping from Queens. What I feel like what Slade
Speaker 1: did for you was kind of like what Clue did
Speaker 1: for Nature, right, like you know, Nas had got that
Speaker 1: route and then I don't know if you remember, but
Speaker 1: Nature was when Nation was on the beginning of the
Speaker 1: Bobby and like I felt like he was on every
Speaker 1: Slave tape and that's how he was doing. So you
Speaker 1: agree with that, Oh yeah, yeah, I would. I would
Speaker 1: definitely say that, but I would say, like, to Nature's credit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, he still had to deliver.
Speaker 1: If they would have put a wat nigga in get
Speaker 1: him out of here, you on a Clue tape especially,
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, So one hundred percent, you're right.
Speaker 1: He gave me a golden opportunity and I knew I
Speaker 1: had to run with it. So then you said, y'all
Speaker 1: was grinding, So how did y'all go? He was grinding? Man,
Speaker 1: I was putting out a mixtape every every like every
Speaker 1: other month. Bro. Me and Slave was just putting out
Speaker 1: a mixtape after mixtape, And honestly, niggas don't notice. But
Speaker 1: I met Slaying oh four, I caught a buzz. I
Speaker 1: didn't get signed to like six o seven, So I
Speaker 1: was just doing mixtapes keeping my name going all that time.
Speaker 1: But within that time frame, like you said, Buster had
Speaker 1: wound up hearing me and he reached out the Slave
Speaker 1: mixtape and he went on the air waves. He picked
Speaker 1: me up over the air. You know how Bus is
Speaker 1: like he he he paused, he give it up if
Speaker 1: he respect what you do. And we started working together.
Speaker 1: Me and Bus started doing joints and eventually they so
Speaker 1: they did a joint venture with Street Sweepers Flip Mode,
Speaker 1: but just to both push me at the same time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that that company Street Street
Speaker 1: Swip Sweepers, Flip Flip Mode does not exist. Only they
Speaker 1: only came together for fat pools because Buster really wanted
Speaker 1: to sign me. Nas wanted to sign me at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I took a meeting with No Slay want me to
Speaker 1: take that meeting, But I took that meeting. Really why
Speaker 1: because they didn't get along at the time. Bro, No,
Speaker 1: Slay always kind of held nads down, even even Nah
Speaker 1: with the Yeah, but that's why they didn't get along,
Speaker 1: because Slay held him down, Okay, and then he felt
Speaker 1: like No, what happened was rest in peace of slate
Speaker 1: and shout out the nads. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I really don't get in between that, but I can
Speaker 1: tell you what happened was this, and it's from my brother.
Speaker 1: Slave Slay held him down. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a battle of the beach, especially what to eat
Speaker 1: the ship beat. Yeah, they had the situation they had
Speaker 1: to decide and vote. I heard, and I heard he
Speaker 1: also made sure people was being fair. Not only he
Speaker 1: was just shop coming there. They were saying the facts
Speaker 1: said something else, but the facts said another thing. Right.
Speaker 1: I did hear that slave slave slaves they kept the
Speaker 1: buck heard it held it down. He held it down. Okay.
Speaker 1: Boom Slay had a single that now is featured on him.
Speaker 1: Okay wow, and he had to video shoot the whole ship.
Speaker 1: And now they showed up to the video. Remember this,
Speaker 1: this is the video. The video got shot up though,
Speaker 1: or I don't know about that. I don't know about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the woman I hear about no shots flying
Speaker 1: the video. Maybe it's the woman Foxy on it. Now
Speaker 1: I know it slays single okay. And that's why Slave
Speaker 1: was he felt like, damn, I held you down, my nigga,
Speaker 1: you know, saying you ain't do the joint. So long
Speaker 1: story short. Around that time, I had the bidding war
Speaker 1: going on and Buster stepped up to the to the place.
Speaker 1: Shots to my brother, Buster rhymes, man, one of the
Speaker 1: realist dudes in this play. Let's make some lights from
Speaker 1: Man shot the Buster so so Jungle one of my
Speaker 1: people's had new Jungle and he hit me. He said, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Jungle, my man. Now I
Speaker 1: just want to meet you. Were cool. I go back
Speaker 1: to Slave, I said, Yo, Slave, Niggas is telling me
Speaker 1: at the time, I don't know nothing about this history
Speaker 1: to be for nothing, Niggas is telling me Nas on
Speaker 1: the on the meeting say was like, hell no man,
Speaker 1: nah man, like, you know what I'm saying. He you know,
Speaker 1: slay man, I don't even get into it. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: Slave's nas my nigga, I gotta take exactly, man, exactly.
Speaker 1: And he like, Yo, don't funk with it. He had
Speaker 1: his reasons. I took the meeting. We met at like
Speaker 1: a piece of shop in little Manhattan and ship. We
Speaker 1: sat down and Nas was cool, man like. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: tell Slave play a record, man like. But Slave was
Speaker 1: still felt the way about that ship. But he was.
Speaker 1: Nas was telling me he said, Yo, man, I'm about
Speaker 1: to go to death Gym soon with jay Z. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I want you to come with
Speaker 1: me m. And we spoke back and forth. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He basically acknowledged what I was doing
Speaker 1: at the time, and he agreed to send over the offer,
Speaker 1: which was which was a deaf jym offer. I went
Speaker 1: back to Slagh, I said, your slave, he's gonna send
Speaker 1: an office slay like man. All right, we wait, we'll see.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He sent the offer. It
Speaker 1: was a low number at the time, so Slave was like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm signed the slag at this time. So we passed
Speaker 1: on that, you know what I mean, And we kept grinding.
Speaker 1: My brother Buster Ron's put me on the record that
Speaker 1: changed my life. Make sure Buster put me on that record.
Speaker 1: I couldn't go to the mall no more, for it
Speaker 1: was crazy, you know what I'm saying. One time when
Speaker 1: I did that record, Buster he was the long Holly said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I want you to come out. I'm doing the show.
Speaker 1: So I come out on my part and the whole
Speaker 1: fucking building is pandemonium. I'm looking around. If anybody got
Speaker 1: the footage, I'm confused why they're screaming. But it was
Speaker 1: for me, you know what I'm saying. And then at
Speaker 1: the time was we were trying to pick the right deal.
Speaker 1: Swiss Beats had an offer, uh and the Scope had
Speaker 1: a had an offer, and and job, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Dave Lighty, was there no Chris Lighty? Okay,
Speaker 1: Chris Chris rest piece, but well Chris did kind of
Speaker 1: kind of fucked us over though, Okay, really rest in
Speaker 1: peace to Chris, though he got you the million Nah.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, what happened was this we had a
Speaker 1: lot of different labels to choose from. But I'm under
Speaker 1: violated management and Chris Lighty is the president of the
Speaker 1: Job Record, like a conflict of no, no, no, not
Speaker 1: even that. I'm gonna tell you what happened. We're like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we need to sign with Job one. They give them
Speaker 1: the most money. No two, they giving the most money,
Speaker 1: and number one, the nigga that we fuck with is
Speaker 1: the president of the label. We're gonna be good. We
Speaker 1: ain't gonna have no issues them as a manager. Not
Speaker 1: even that. I tell you what happened. As soon as
Speaker 1: I signed the fucking deal, news goes out everywhere. Chris
Speaker 1: Lighty is no longer the president of the job Records.
Speaker 1: This ship is an R and B label, So you
Speaker 1: Chris was like, Yo, sign over here. I'm telling y'all.
Speaker 1: Remember it's a beening one for me at the time,
Speaker 1: right right. I mean, I'm doing what I do. So
Speaker 1: everybody got interests and we decide and were like, all right,
Speaker 1: Chris is in our AA, Yo, come over here, got y'all, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm here. It's a no brain. As soon as we signed, nigga,
Speaker 1: what do you think he already knew he was leaving.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that's what happened.
Speaker 1: So a young nigga from the other We've been working,
Speaker 1: like my brother was saying, early, been working his whole
Speaker 1: life for this. You finally get in that position that
Speaker 1: kind of Sleigh was pissed that Steve out here, but
Speaker 1: we kept it moving and eventually we ran into trouble, which,
Speaker 1: like I said before, the worst decision ever. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying to sign it signed into Job Records for the
Speaker 1: one point five million. Okay, all right, let me let
Speaker 1: me ask you two part questions. Yeah, if you had
Speaker 1: a chance to do it over, which major would you
Speaker 1: sign to? If not? Y'all? First of all, if I
Speaker 1: had a chance to do it over, I would have
Speaker 1: put my album off from the gate instead of doing
Speaker 1: all those mixtapes number one and number two. To answer
Speaker 1: your question, I would have definitely took that death Jam
Speaker 1: deal with NOAs Okay, death jam with nos you would
Speaker 1: have been. I would have took that because what was it?
Speaker 1: It wasn't I Will Jam was no No. Whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck he did when he went over there with jay Z,
Speaker 1: his own wasn't quite master Pill yet it wasn't well,
Speaker 1: I don't forget what it was. I think it might
Speaker 1: have been a well slay. Slay looked at it like, yo,
Speaker 1: pat Nah's never blew nobody up but itself. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Really, that was just slave. I'm just saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: rest in peace. That's my brother, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I'm a I'm a big supporting fan of now,
Speaker 1: but I don't take nothing away from none of them.
Speaker 1: This is what happened me. I don't look at it
Speaker 1: like that. I look at it like it's like if
Speaker 1: a player go to a certain team, the team might
Speaker 1: be trash, but when he go there, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You don't. Yeah, I know what I would
Speaker 1: have did with that given but you can't cry for
Speaker 1: spilt milk. I'm here, man, but you know that's that's
Speaker 1: what happened. That would have been crazy though. So then
Speaker 1: how do you get out of this deal? The job? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: thank god. When we negotiated it, we negotiated that if
Speaker 1: they didn't do the right thing bias, we get to
Speaker 1: leave with the money. With the money, yeah, so we
Speaker 1: left with the bread mean slant at the time, which
Speaker 1: was yeah, goddamn goddamn. We didn't get to get to
Speaker 1: that marking the budget though. We had like a big
Speaker 1: ass marketing budget that we didn't get to tap into.
Speaker 1: We was mad about that, but we did get the
Speaker 1: one point five you know, you, Me and Slay. We
Speaker 1: got out of there and back to the ground. So
Speaker 1: how far did you did you throw out singles with them?
Speaker 1: How far did you go? We didn't even get a chance.
Speaker 1: It was a whole stabatarge. What happened. What happened that
Speaker 1: job was Okay, when I was in the process of
Speaker 1: signing there, I got a I got a message. Back
Speaker 1: then we had the side kicks, right of course, so
Speaker 1: a nigga hit me on the side kick. It's when
Speaker 1: I just signed. As a matter of fact, I was
Speaker 1: in the process of the whole ship. Nigga hit me up.
Speaker 1: He said, your pat They mad at the label. A
Speaker 1: lot of people that work at the label they pissed
Speaker 1: off because what happened was Barry Whiss and p A
Speaker 1: and Peter Thea. They signed me. The bosses signed me directly.
Speaker 1: So when me and Slay took the meeting to do
Speaker 1: the deal, he said, you know the reason why I'm
Speaker 1: signing you was because my son is a fan of
Speaker 1: Little Library. So the people at the label, who was
Speaker 1: saying that bad right? Yeah, okay, he telling me that
Speaker 1: at the at the meeting. So the people at the label,
Speaker 1: y'all know, I'm sure y'all can agree to this. They
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing to do with like, I skip past
Speaker 1: all of them niggas and went straight to the to
Speaker 1: the boss. So they didn't like it. They didn't like
Speaker 1: me because of that. They couldn't put their hands in
Speaker 1: my budget. They couldn't do nothing me and Slay was
Speaker 1: dealing directly with their boss. So somebody that hit me
Speaker 1: up and they say your path I was at job.
Speaker 1: I hope iheard a meeting them niggas was pissed off
Speaker 1: that you signed to the label, and they saying ship
Speaker 1: like yo, as soon as you put out a single,
Speaker 1: but don't go, we're gonna get them off the label.
Speaker 1: But what they did was that was that wasn't really
Speaker 1: what you know, what what transpired. What happened was back then,
Speaker 1: you know you needed the one two punch, you caught
Speaker 1: a bus. Then you did the single with the R
Speaker 1: and B artists, get the street record, Street record, get
Speaker 1: the single with the R and B artists. You out
Speaker 1: of here. All the R and B artists was on job.
Speaker 1: So they blocked all the R and B artist from
Speaker 1: getting on my project. You know what I'm saying. Yeah
Speaker 1: they did. They did big like a motherfucker Like me
Speaker 1: and Slay was fighting. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: tried to get all Kelly, but I'm glad I didn't
Speaker 1: do that ship. You know what I'm saying, Go yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know in the love brother, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they blocked him. They blocked t Pain. Listen to the
Speaker 1: R and B artists they have. They blocked Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Chris Brown is on the
Speaker 1: job too, that's you know what I'm saying. So all
Speaker 1: and these artists were showing love, saying they wanted to
Speaker 1: do pain. This might about, you know, controversy. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: they blocked all the R and B artist from the project.
Speaker 1: Eventually that shi adin't work out. Me and Slay was like,
Speaker 1: all right, we got to exercise that close. Now I
Speaker 1: had to get out of them. So they asked you
Speaker 1: a question, No, I didn't. Matter of fact, I did
Speaker 1: get a single off, but my single was out two
Speaker 1: weeks when it deal folded. Wow, I had Snoop Dog
Speaker 1: won the single get out. Yeah, that's the fact was
Speaker 1: let's go you got something us? What's that is that?
Speaker 1: I shaid, I gotta look up my glasses. All right,
Speaker 1: old man, ship it's a drinking game, but we're not drinking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean y'all want to drink. Yeah, celebrating the album.
Speaker 1: Then you go, man produce Fire Fire, Thank you saw
Speaker 1: hit me up to about it? Man, Look like I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, that's fire. I ain't even realize how
Speaker 1: how it's like, Yo, that's no one can skip you put.
Speaker 1: I just hated, like, if you're a fan of hip hop,
Speaker 1: you skip that. They're just mad people shock. My brother
Speaker 1: Sean too in the production. They had a mad day.
Speaker 1: My brother right here produced that whole project. You know
Speaker 1: that fire I killed. I killed that ship. No, we
Speaker 1: we did the We did the in the studio together
Speaker 1: like no emailing. You know what I'm saying, Like every
Speaker 1: question in the studio did you did you? Because when
Speaker 1: I first heard when you first introduced the project, I
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna because you know, to do the
Speaker 1: freestyles in the car that inspire you to do the
Speaker 1: Balls it did it did?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Because I was like, yeah, how's this gonna come out?
Speaker 1: Is he just gonna have like, oh that's white Balls
Speaker 1: did because so many people just hit me up like
Speaker 1: you need to turn into a project. But I ain't
Speaker 1: just want to do it. I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: I like, did it right? You know what I'm saying. Bro,
Speaker 1: that showed me. That's a good project, man, good looking show.
Speaker 1: Definitely got definitely gonna do part two. Man, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hit you. I'm like, I know the bro individuals to yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yes, each time. It's gonna come with a short film.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, who's the girl on
Speaker 1: the project? O Kadija that's under Artists. She underwent records,
Speaker 1: so she signed to Win Records. I'm saying, that's family
Speaker 1: right there. When when when now she killing it? She
Speaker 1: killing it? She from Cali man, she from Leone, but
Speaker 1: she in calad of the Diamonds is up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But she's based in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes Diamonds, shout the Cadijo. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 2: do quick time with Slim. We're gonna give you two choices.
Speaker 2: If you pick one, we're not drinking. If you say both,
Speaker 2: you know want you you're playing, You're alumni.
Speaker 1: Wanta drink? I'll be drinking a lot. Man. Great time
Speaker 1: with Slim getting my must time. I heard you crash
Speaker 1: into a police car? Did oh ship? Last time I
Speaker 1: left the last time? You gotta use that you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. This is a funny ship son, because I
Speaker 1: knew I was twisted right. So the nigga was like
Speaker 1: he was par my dumb ass on the phone bomb.
Speaker 1: I look, it's a fucking cop call. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: ship itself like yo, I'm like, chill, chill, chill. I
Speaker 1: got this, and I started giving them all information. Yo,
Speaker 1: just the flight. But I'm going to jail. I'm like
Speaker 1: going to jail and fucking Florida. I'm like yo, because
Speaker 1: I booked every dud, did everything. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So police get out, step out of the car, sir,
Speaker 1: I styled the car. How much did you have to drink?
Speaker 1: I don't drink, right, I don't drink. I smell it
Speaker 1: all over you. I don't know what you smell. I
Speaker 1: don't drink. So they doing this ship with the eye tept.
Speaker 1: I beat off I passed all that ship. Well, there's
Speaker 1: a plaque on the fucking ship says drinking. I'm like,
Speaker 1: is this nigga looking the car? I'm going, what you mean?
Speaker 1: Give me somebody flowers? Got them be drunk? Yo. I'm
Speaker 1: looking like yo, yo hod that fucking drink Championships because
Speaker 1: he's got the flash light in the car. I'm like,
Speaker 1: they put two and two Togetheriggas be like, Yo, you
Speaker 1: definitely drink. Yeah exactly, they definitely. Why that's my son.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm eaven drinking. Like yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: fan for both of y'all. Case Slay or Clark cat
Speaker 1: Oh ship like both of those. I would, but come on,
Speaker 1: Kise slay man, y'all gotta drink that. I mean unless
Speaker 1: y'all want to. I ain't driving the sign loud and clear,
Speaker 1: driving the time motherfuckers Cain or jay z Oh ships
Speaker 1: playing horrible with me. I'm gonna say king. I think
Speaker 1: jay z would say king. Yeah, that's King. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say both. Let's say both the drinking Okay shun price
Speaker 1: or O d B. Damn. I'm gonna go, Sean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go rest in peace. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but definitely O d B. Man, you create Brooklyn's was crazy.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie so monkey ball wealth card like
Speaker 1: so effect they broke the draft for you know. You
Speaker 1: know what's funny? They similar similar. I mean like as
Speaker 1: far as not giving them like so many people in
Speaker 1: the hip hop, they have something like like they're they're
Speaker 1: they're like have pride like what they were both they're
Speaker 1: both messages I don't give you. I mean like I'm on,
Speaker 1: I'm on, I keep getting the EPT. But my ever,
Speaker 1: we call the wealth welfare straight up welfare and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm Sean saying I'm the Brokes rap. You know, like
Speaker 1: that's just kind of like the same message in a
Speaker 1: certain way. Yeah, human had similar humor. It's something about O.
Speaker 5: D B.
Speaker 1: Like his energy, bro like it makes you want to
Speaker 1: fight as soon as you hit it. Come on. It's
Speaker 1: just like dang. I was standing and I seen them like,
Speaker 1: yeah that ship wasn't. Let me tell you the funny
Speaker 1: ship about B. I invite him to a barbecue. He
Speaker 1: goes to the barbecue, he got he got gatorade in
Speaker 1: his head and then I'm like, here, you don't want
Speaker 1: to eat? He goes No, it's Ramadan. I like a
Speaker 1: lot of barbecue. You just see him like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't belong here. I said, Yo, what part of
Speaker 1: the barbecue you didn't understand? Like that's what crazy people?
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Both Brooklyn both Brooklyn. Ye seen there to live.
Speaker 1: I like how you pronounced live. I gotta go with that.
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I'm going with Tyler. See I gotta
Speaker 1: drink because it's like that's different. I'm going to Okay,
Speaker 1: my bad bad all this is, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: easy for y'all. Biggie or big al Biggie, that ship
Speaker 1: ain't easy man for me. Well, I'm Brooklyn biased anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know all y'all if you don't say biggie's something wrong.
Speaker 1: But big l was crazy. That's the piece of hell.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I gotta say big Okay, uncle murder or
Speaker 1: man on oh ship crazy? Does I mean there's those
Speaker 1: guys over there, they write it. I just I just
Speaker 1: read it. What we ask you get whatever there you
Speaker 1: want whatever, I'm gonna say, both Okay, I mean Brooklyn
Speaker 1: man Brooklyn, Brooklyn looking for the wind okay asy or
Speaker 1: fab ship. I'm taking a sip man Okay, cool, all right,
Speaker 1: Yeah you take this one joy badass of Rome Streets.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, that's tough like Rome Streets kids, get it shocked. No,
Speaker 1: I like both of them, like both yeah, man, but
Speaker 1: he knew what he knew it and Joey you know
Speaker 1: what deliricis a species? Now? Yeah? Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Shot the both of them, MTV raps or
Speaker 1: rap City. I'm wan rap City rap City? That was
Speaker 1: easy master Ace or Ja Rule the Dammager master. Ay
Speaker 1: they both dopes me man, I think that was a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was Yeah, yeah, I'm I think was jay
Speaker 1: U arguably the first rapp of the rep East New York.
Speaker 1: I think no fat boys fat boys from East New
Speaker 1: York back. I did not know that fat boys, that's
Speaker 1: a fact.
Speaker 3: Okay, just a killer priest, just a that Jesus is
Speaker 3: insane though very underrated.
Speaker 1: Yeah but I like killing but but he ain't got
Speaker 1: the project that that that liquid swords like that's what
Speaker 1: gives them that they both deadly with the pen. You
Speaker 1: gotta have that body of work, liquid body of work
Speaker 1: them niggas. Jesus was crazy skazoo or to mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go ska Zoo. Okay,
Speaker 1: they like a group is an artist, but he also
Speaker 1: put out guys. Well okay, that's probably that's broke that Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't know that Lola Brook or Scarlet Lola. Yeah, Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: I gotta go broken, lolaire she got energy. Yeah, shout
Speaker 1: the load of brook the team eate man, I want
Speaker 1: to see. I want to see. I ask you predominantly first,
Speaker 1: and then I'm coming to the dominantly. It's Crazy next
Speaker 1: or the nets nixt that's easy, okay, like it's not
Speaker 1: Brooklyn in all. Okay, you got you gotta New York, Brian,
Speaker 1: New York. Now you too, nigga. I don't either think
Speaker 1: let's big up to the next organization just one. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the help that we want, I don't matter.
Speaker 1: That's how we celebrated every single wining weekend. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know how he is crazy man
Speaker 1: said what the we can done? That win? Goddamn it?
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, just like I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: but everybody celebrated. Yeah, I think said they won the
Speaker 1: World Cup. I said I thought that would socker bro
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're doing. I'm like, drag out
Speaker 1: the league, to drag out the league. I can't he
Speaker 1: just give me the eighty game. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: When I see all the celebrated, I was like, fuck
Speaker 1: that we're up. We won. I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what the fun that we won? Hey, that's crazy. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. MC Light or Laurence Hill. Damn,
Speaker 1: I'm sipping. I'm going I'm going Light. This is a rock.
Speaker 1: I'm going with light Man Wow, because I feel like
Speaker 1: she influenced Lauren Hill. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I feel like the same thing he said earlier. Jay
Speaker 1: Z would say king you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's like it's kind of tough to put her over Light,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. For me, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that too. I'm anay with thin Light as
Speaker 1: a rock, smooth hustler or sort some money. Both of
Speaker 1: my guys Man too, Man too Brownsville, So both of
Speaker 1: it's both Brooklyn member for smooth smooth. It's like them
Speaker 1: that's my guyrigged my god, that's my period crew from
Speaker 1: That's where I come from. Bro Like I gotta go smooth.
Speaker 1: I love so sources my god too, though, I gotta
Speaker 1: shout the source of money, shout. I just saw some money,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go. I gotta go smooth. Though broken
Speaker 1: languages still still one of the Yeah, the beat and
Speaker 1: actually everything the source source my nigga too. Man, you drinking, No,
Speaker 1: I took smooth smooth, Okay, smooth smooth, Okay, beat Street
Speaker 1: or Crush grew, Rush grew. It's the time, man, Damn yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got into that bugging. I thought he said breaking
Speaker 1: for a second, like breaking B Street and Crush grew
Speaker 1: Eighties crazy okay saying no, I'm just kidding. Eighties hip
Speaker 1: hop or nineties hip hop, that's tough. So it's easy, man,
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. Come on, Pat what you said
Speaker 1: you Pat poop? Nineties bro, It's no, that's for me,
Speaker 1: nineties man, because you know what eighties you got, she rapped,
Speaker 1: you got sucking Kane, you got rock. Yeah, g wrapped
Speaker 1: in the nineties too, Il Street, black l Street Blues
Speaker 1: in the nineties. He was in the nineties to the nineties,
Speaker 1: but eighties g was a different g though. Yeah, jeez, jeez,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you sip on that because to me,
Speaker 1: speaking a cool g rap the first time I heard
Speaker 1: him was Rooster Evil. That's the fact to me. To me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, eighties hip hop was on coke and nineties
Speaker 1: hip hop. So I'm telling it, yeah, you hip hop
Speaker 1: was in the back of the seat. I was doing
Speaker 1: them songs was out. I didn't even know they was
Speaker 1: talking about coke. Back the White Line had spikes and
Speaker 1: ship Carrol. I had to tell there was a nigga
Speaker 1: prison trying to convince me, Yo, there was a nigga
Speaker 1: in prison, man, and this how you know jail? You
Speaker 1: know jail niggas will tell you anything. Did they get you?
Speaker 1: Some wool tang came out. I was in jail. He
Speaker 1: tried to tell me that the wool tang was because
Speaker 1: they smoked wolves, and I was like, man, you bugging huh.
Speaker 1: They got a little truth to it, because he was
Speaker 1: I'm like a little truth. But then he started breaking
Speaker 1: down the set. He was like, think about it, no question,
Speaker 1: that was feed cracks weed combination. I was like, damn na, bro,
Speaker 1: niggas wasn't smoking wolves. I ain't realized wolves was a
Speaker 1: cool thing back in the day, like, oh, they still
Speaker 1: do it out here right now? What did you call it? Dirty? Dirty? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well crack they love it out here. That's filtering the
Speaker 1: My nigga took that shout out. Listen to me, I
Speaker 1: did love. I did a fucking love of hip hop.
Speaker 1: See with Daddy and he's there, he's just a bagg
Speaker 1: and we're just sitting there looking at each other like
Speaker 1: this character. The whole time, it was kept going, I
Speaker 1: love these niggas out there, these niggas crazy. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Rockefeller Rough Riders kept going, it's crazy. I should go on.
Speaker 1: So that's all or too. If I had it was
Speaker 1: being I had my chance when they was in the peak,
Speaker 1: I probably would have chose Rockefeller. Yeah, I gotta go
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn a fella. Okay, Okay, I forgot, but rough
Speaker 1: Father's got a couple of Brooklyn CEO's in there. Okay.
Speaker 1: The rough Riders man crazy. The Yankees are the Mets
Speaker 1: Yankees Yankees one Queen's niggas Queen. I like when the
Speaker 1: Yankees winning. But I always got to wear that. And
Speaker 1: it's like wearing the Knicks colors too. You're right, it's
Speaker 1: really the next colors too, right, Okay Smith and Wesson
Speaker 1: or m O p oh Man mass policy. I'm going.
Speaker 1: I'm going with them, going with billion fang all billion fang.
Speaker 1: I love both of them, both of them, My brothers
Speaker 1: both got legend that w jointed both of them thing
Speaker 1: both of them in sing bro. Words can't describe it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I got to take
Speaker 1: a drink. Okay special ad or father MC special special Bro.
Speaker 1: I got it man, shout the father C Man. He's
Speaker 1: still touring. No, no, no, right now we're doing that.
Speaker 1: If you do for dude, now now now off finished.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much he's dancing on stage, but
Speaker 1: he's on stage like every week, Like, well I see him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's what I love about our old school brothers.
Speaker 1: When I see them on the road, that ship makes
Speaker 1: me feel real, very real good. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like one of the best hip hop records. I got
Speaker 1: it man, How start? How start to see if we
Speaker 1: hip hop? Let's go.
Speaker 4: I'm your title nu Puerto Rican speaking so that you know,
Speaker 4: listen to see something when we say you she was
Speaker 4: meant to be.
Speaker 1: In the handcut that it was a fake. Big Daddy
Speaker 1: came come. I always looked at that. I can't let
Speaker 1: Brook crown Daddy Kane. I was like, yo, all the
Speaker 1: big Daddy Cane got the head. Yeah, and he blonded it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was wrapping the video music box that he was. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get back to the interview. That's funny
Speaker 1: Town Records was doing it. They was doing it heavy
Speaker 1: down with heavy d y.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They had the animals to heavy. Don't he dive? It
Speaker 1: was no heavy deed. It might not have been big,
Speaker 1: no big, no big pun. That boy was about it.
Speaker 1: Boys before having no big pun followed the style. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't bad boys was big that he wanted to
Speaker 1: be heavy boys. I forgot the fat boy first. I
Speaker 1: thought I thought they was kind of like the same era. Man. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right right, Yeah. I used to like
Speaker 1: Muffy that you know what then he was doing I
Speaker 1: was like, this ship is fire and they made movies too.
Speaker 1: They broke down those barriers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this is the last Quesson that we gonna get
Speaker 1: back into the interview and close it out. Loyalty or
Speaker 1: respect mm hmmmm, I'm gonna say I would say both
Speaker 1: both I think they go hand in hand. Yeah is
Speaker 1: the time if it's that you should drink this is
Speaker 1: this is the actual time. Last time we got to check. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you can't have one without the other. That's
Speaker 1: what I believe. You know what I mean, if you
Speaker 1: loyal to him, probably if you don't have to pick,
Speaker 1: why would you pick one? Is what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know I want so not. You got the uh situation. Job.
Speaker 1: You got got to fill the industry. You got to
Speaker 1: got gotta get a couple of dollars. What makes you
Speaker 1: say I want to I'm gonna do love and hip hop? Oh?
Speaker 1: You called me? He called me one time. He was like,
Speaker 1: did it and they made me look horrible? He was
Speaker 1: like fun, they called it love and hip hop? And
Speaker 1: I said, you're fam He was like, I seen, I
Speaker 1: seen your experience up there where you think. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember this conversation. He was like what
Speaker 1: do you think? And I was like, I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: doing it with his ex wife. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I think you should do it because number one, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna play with her. The bitches over there, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna they'll play with us because they ain't much
Speaker 1: we could do. They're not gonna play with her, and
Speaker 1: that's what they was doing. They're like, how we make
Speaker 1: this nigga look like an ass? So they did the
Speaker 1: beat up and they did they just make I'm like,
Speaker 1: why y'all doing this shit to me when they don't
Speaker 1: fuck with you. They don't fuck with you, and they
Speaker 1: need ratings. They was like, if we could make you
Speaker 1: look like a fucking buffoon and it brings, and we
Speaker 1: could throw you up on that screen and people gonna
Speaker 1: tap in, we're gonna do it. But I told Pap,
Speaker 1: I say, your situation is different, bro, like you looked
Speaker 1: at as a totally different I don't even know if
Speaker 1: you remember this coming.
Speaker 3: No, I do.
Speaker 1: I do remember so because you had. So what happened
Speaker 1: was it was a point when when she was away,
Speaker 1: they was actually reaching out to me, to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they was reaching out to us to do the show
Speaker 1: while she was incarcerated, and we was like, you would
Speaker 1: have been on Love after lock. Yeah. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this shit is like they over there, they throwing drinks
Speaker 1: on each other and like that shit ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: Turned it down. But then when she came home, they
Speaker 1: came with the offer again, and you know, we both
Speaker 1: kind of had like a bad rep, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. She had one, of course what she went through,
Speaker 1: and I had a bunch of situations man that that
Speaker 1: went on behind the scenes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And people people knew me as an artist, but they
Speaker 1: an't know Pap Poosta person, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we we talked and at that point when she
Speaker 1: came home, we decided to do it. But around that time,
Speaker 1: that's when I started making them calls. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: all right, I know my nigga was on it. Let
Speaker 1: me come up and see checked the tip, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Cause I kind of seem like I
Speaker 1: know him, but I seen how they depicted him on
Speaker 1: the screen. I was like, that's not who we are,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, some real ship, but that's
Speaker 1: why I have Yeah. Yeah, so I called them whatever,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, just people that I
Speaker 1: know that was on the show that I think will
Speaker 1: give me an honest opinion. But me and Hus spoke
Speaker 1: and we decided to do it. And it was crazy
Speaker 1: when I did that shit though, because I was expecting
Speaker 1: to get clowned. I was like, I was like, they
Speaker 1: about to kill me, man, They about to kill me. First. First,
Speaker 1: it kind of started when when she first caught the
Speaker 1: situation or whatever they was clowning me. They was it
Speaker 1: was killing me back then. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was killing me back in the beginning. It was
Speaker 1: like Yo, they had the mentality like yo, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean with somebody, will she do that for you?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because I was going to
Speaker 1: visit her and all of that shit, and you know,
Speaker 1: I would post certain things. But one time when it
Speaker 1: kind of changed, Double Excel reached out and they wanted
Speaker 1: to do an interview. They was like, yeah, we just
Speaker 1: want to follow you for the day. And my routine
Speaker 1: was go to the supermarket, get thirty one pounds of
Speaker 1: food and didn't go to the jail, drop the food
Speaker 1: off and going to visit. So they came actually with
Speaker 1: me to the supermarket. And then it came with me
Speaker 1: on the Double Sell magazine. You probably could pull it up,
Speaker 1: and they sent on a visit with us and they
Speaker 1: put the article out. When they put the article out,
Speaker 1: that's when it changed and they kind of stopped clowning
Speaker 1: me at the time because I didn't see those algorithms.
Speaker 1: Are people clowning you? So but yeah, in the beginning,
Speaker 1: I can show you ship. It's certain niggas that I
Speaker 1: wanted to slap from back then, like I see them now.
Speaker 1: But they was like when she caught the case, they
Speaker 1: thought it was funny. You know, I didn't think that
Speaker 1: was funny. I got another story. It was funny that
Speaker 1: you was being Lloyd. They thought it was funny that
Speaker 1: she caught the case. She went to jail, and they
Speaker 1: thought I was an idiot for holding it down. One
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I got minds on that plane
Speaker 1: you called me last night and I'm in Connecticut and
Speaker 1: you got to be in Miami by noon, is because
Speaker 1: it was him, because I got stories. He don't even
Speaker 1: remember speaking of Remy, right, the first be et site
Speaker 1: from it was me, you, the first one. When they
Speaker 1: first started them ships, Me, you, Ron Fast, Remy. It
Speaker 1: was a couple and they would only give us eight bars.
Speaker 1: Back then. You couldn't go like niggas. They was like, no,
Speaker 1: everybody do look full little bars. So I remember me
Speaker 1: and you talking because me and you knew Remy is
Speaker 1: already a star. Me and Son is under up and coming.
Speaker 1: So I remember, I remember me and you speaking. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: re mey be looking at you. Was like, yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: y'all holler. He was like, but meanwhile, I didn't know
Speaker 1: you probably had backed her. This is brand new, this
Speaker 1: is the first. This is two thousand and Because I'm
Speaker 1: like yo, He's like, I'm like, nah, she's too big
Speaker 1: of a star. She ain't. She ain't a fucking what.
Speaker 1: She ain't suing with neither one of us. But we
Speaker 1: just talking being niggas. And then the next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: there in a relationship. I'm like, did he bag it
Speaker 1: that day? Because you I wasn't together at the time.
Speaker 1: This was the first bet site for Ron. I think
Speaker 1: they split us up. Yeah, they did. They had me
Speaker 1: and Ron face and they was on four the time
Speaker 1: we was. We was on the first double XL freshman
Speaker 1: cover we did, the first being the first. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: paved a lot. He was the New York next supposed
Speaker 1: to be Saviors after y'all, After y'all. It was like Pat,
Speaker 1: there's two guys and Ship Brooklyn niggas Saigon and Me
Speaker 1: and Son at the beginning, it was like, we'll be
Speaker 1: going with this bro, and Kate Slay was the glue
Speaker 1: Slave Man recipes of my brother Slave ten records Niggers.
Speaker 1: Though we didn't like each other, I was like, that's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite rappers. That's the fact, I think
Speaker 1: one of my favorite rabbits. You po, I seen niggas
Speaker 1: used to make Pat Punk Patpoo's Versus Sagon mixtapes. That's
Speaker 1: the fact, Like DJ used to make Pat Poo's Verse
Speaker 1: Sagon you look google them since to this day. And
Speaker 1: Kate Slay because Kate Slay put me in the game too.
Speaker 1: So Slave was like, nah, I mean your nigga y Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the fact, that's the first one. Yeah, and Blue
Speaker 1: paid for Jasco SOLDI your boys shit right now, your
Speaker 1: first So but when y'all got together, I always wondered,
Speaker 1: like did it start that day because me, I can't
Speaker 1: even remember if it was around the same around that
Speaker 1: same time, you know what I mean. But yeah, going
Speaker 1: back to that man, like I said in the beginning,
Speaker 1: it was a clown show, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that was like they're in the bid And then,
Speaker 1: like I said, when XXL did that interview. Everything changed
Speaker 1: from from there on. People started to be like, damn,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. They kind of respected
Speaker 1: it and it just went from there. But when we
Speaker 1: did the show, the reason why I was expecting to
Speaker 1: get clown because you didn't see that on there. You
Speaker 1: didn't see like a man actually being there for his family,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we shot that. She
Speaker 1: remember I was on one knee proposing the whole ship.
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, they got married in the cast,
Speaker 1: They're about to kill they about to kill me. It
Speaker 1: was crazy when it came out. I really felt like
Speaker 1: our people was tired of seeing us to pick it
Speaker 1: like down the screen. I believe so too real, bro,
Speaker 1: because the love was creaty. I couldn't believe it. You
Speaker 1: did it right though it was nothing but love. The
Speaker 1: opportunity made it right and it was organic, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it was it was really organic
Speaker 1: at the time. I believe you represent it for every
Speaker 1: street dude that want to come home at night, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, there's a lot of street
Speaker 1: dudes who don't want to come home at night, or
Speaker 1: street people who's not going to come home at night.
Speaker 1: But then there's people that want to come home at night.
Speaker 1: They want to come home at night, not only uh
Speaker 1: to safety, but to their women and their family. And
Speaker 1: I believe everybody was like rooting for you, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just as a man, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying regardless, and I'm just saying, you
Speaker 1: represent manhood in a great, great way, man like, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I just want to
Speaker 1: personally give you a round. Thank you. We got like
Speaker 1: I got an aunt. I got an aunt, she like
Speaker 1: sixty eight. She was like, I need me a pat poos.
Speaker 1: I said, Yo. It was a crazy time back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want your old ass. I need yo, like
Speaker 1: an years old. But the imagery you put out there
Speaker 1: was amazing, bro, Noah, it was. It was so crazy, man,
Speaker 1: Like I knew what it was like at that time,
Speaker 1: Like it was cool to be, you know, moving around
Speaker 1: with different chicks and all that ship. So that's what
Speaker 1: everybody was putting out there. I feel like when at
Speaker 1: that time, after that came out, you started to see
Speaker 1: it more because it exists. But it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Nigga was hot and it what the fuck. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I feel like I think the
Speaker 1: world was tired of seeing us throwing drinks on each
Speaker 1: other on the screen and all that ship throwing throwing
Speaker 1: bags on yeah, like guilty on the roof and sh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, they ain't they ain't. This
Speaker 1: ain't my niggas. It really depicted you crazy like that.
Speaker 1: What I don't watch none of that like that. It
Speaker 1: got so bad My real friends that really knew me,
Speaker 1: like I go, We'll go to a you know, an
Speaker 1: event or something, and they like pulled me to the side,
Speaker 1: like Y're gonnaell my wife don't funk with you, son.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know your wife. Bro, she
Speaker 1: watched the show, son, she don't like you. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you ain't tell her like the real me like that.
Speaker 1: You people's perception of what they see and what they believe. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like they pushed narratives.
Speaker 2: Nowadays, it's some wicked ship, bro, But you didn't have
Speaker 2: that happened during year like Prince Charming.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. It was like it was
Speaker 1: crazy back then, right when that ship came out, Like
Speaker 1: I would get mixed reactions like like like you said,
Speaker 1: your like, I would go somewhere and the older women
Speaker 1: like different, they would go crazy. But I'll be going
Speaker 1: through the tobo. Back then, they didn't have the easy
Speaker 1: path and the nigga. I'll pull up and get a
Speaker 1: nigga my money, like, oh, you fucking up my house.
Speaker 1: You're fucking up niggas house on too. I see that too.
Speaker 1: I can see that. I'm just asking, is there anything
Speaker 1: you ever regret about doing the show? Not not not
Speaker 1: your relationship the show. I don't because they just, honestly,
Speaker 1: like I said, they actually let you leave. They followed.
Speaker 1: They followed me like I said, on the visit and
Speaker 1: all that ship. That's when it started. So it was organic.
Speaker 1: So I would have to regret my life if I
Speaker 1: regret it, because honestly, they just documented what was going on.
Speaker 1: I'll give moaning them credit for that, like they did
Speaker 1: a good job at just recalling what was happening at
Speaker 1: the time. That's what you know. I regret it like
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. I don't regret mine what you know well,
Speaker 1: but you ain't going there half a season like a
Speaker 1: season and a half. I didn't once I did no drama,
Speaker 1: they got no drama. You know everka, Okay, I did mist.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 1: So you didn't. You don't regret that. But I remember
Speaker 1: one time you was, uh I believe you said you
Speaker 1: went to go on a visit and you said, the
Speaker 1: one thing that you don't see is other men, Like
Speaker 1: like how you see women visiting men, You didn't see
Speaker 1: men reciprocating that you you didn't see a lot of them. Nah,
Speaker 1: what happened is I used to go to rik As
Speaker 1: Island and visit like a lot of my homies, and
Speaker 1: there be snow outside. You see women out there with
Speaker 1: strollers and the snow. Bro getting on the bus going
Speaker 1: to see dudes get on the visiting floor. You can't
Speaker 1: even get in because they're fighting to get in. There
Speaker 1: a lot of big joints to visit dudes girls, but
Speaker 1: they it's crowded, Bro, it's crowded. But then when you
Speaker 1: go when I used to go to the women's facility,
Speaker 1: that ship was empty. It'd be like me and two
Speaker 1: other dudes, like we know each other. And I used
Speaker 1: to be like, I started comparing it too, like damn
Speaker 1: niggas is leaving it the chicks for the women for
Speaker 1: dad in here because they got visited every day a while.
Speaker 1: Deserve it, bro, Wow, they got visits every day every day.
Speaker 1: When when when you're on top, Yeah, okay, every day
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 3: So I.
Speaker 1: Y'all got married in jail. Yeah okay, so that was
Speaker 1: the real marriage. But then when y'all came home, it
Speaker 1: was the castle wedding. Yeah, the whole the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That was like the fly ship have a bro like
Speaker 1: that was like that was like that was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you gave hope to everybody. It was like it was
Speaker 1: like was that something you you wanted to do? Like
Speaker 1: that big like like that was like a fairy tale
Speaker 1: wedding for lack of a better term. Yeah, no, that
Speaker 1: was something that happened. It happened naturally because initially, like
Speaker 1: you said, it happened on the inside, so you know,
Speaker 1: it didn't get to happen the correct way. So you know,
Speaker 1: you always want to make sure you do it right.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Because ask somebody who
Speaker 1: knows you personally, somebody who respects you highly respects you,
Speaker 1: and you know, your life is playing out in public
Speaker 1: just like mine did. It's like we all once we
Speaker 1: sign up for this ship, we public were in the public, Right,
Speaker 1: how's it been co parenting since since you're split? Because
Speaker 1: that's the problem I have with the mothers and my children,
Speaker 1: Like sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not, like because a
Speaker 1: woman a woman could sometimes use to use a child
Speaker 1: to really when they know you love your child, they like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got something you love more than yourself, so I
Speaker 1: could use that. How's co parenting been with your ex since? Since?
Speaker 1: I Just make the best out of it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And making the best out of it.
Speaker 1: You know, you my child is the most important thing fact,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just putting put my kid
Speaker 1: first and making the best out of you. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, getting canting do it because that's the
Speaker 1: ship for the most part. When you don't get, when
Speaker 1: you don't walk with somebody, you got to kill with them.
Speaker 1: That sh it is torture. When you love your kids
Speaker 1: and you're like, damn, I got to go through. That's
Speaker 1: why my kids are teenagers now, so I ain't they
Speaker 1: got their own phones. I ain't got to go through
Speaker 1: mom from ship. It's easy breezy now. But when you
Speaker 1: got to go through somebody you don't deal with, you
Speaker 1: get to this person you love. Ship is is torture.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many fathers is out there who
Speaker 1: really they kids lives, but that shit is could be.
Speaker 1: That's one of the hardest things I've ever had to
Speaker 1: deal with in my life. Harder than prison, harder than
Speaker 1: getting shot, stabby and all. That ship was really having
Speaker 1: to deal with a woman who I didn't want to
Speaker 1: deal with at all because she got my baby. You know,
Speaker 1: there's an episode of Larry David right, it's called Kirby
Speaker 1: Enthusiasm right with him and this girl break up and
Speaker 1: they make everyone kind of like choose a side like
Speaker 1: it's almost like the like, so, so you know that
Speaker 1: is not known for this ship. They on to go
Speaker 1: online and do this so no one sees them since
Speaker 1: this happens, and we see each other at Rock the Bells,
Speaker 1: Hold on before you finish? Can I bring my brother
Speaker 1: show on to it? Yeah? I got, I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I need to get my brother. See the man rock
Speaker 1: the bell I got got you got your gother? So
Speaker 1: I see the man walking the bells, I come out,
Speaker 1: mm hmm, I see I see the child. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy ship, I did I see left happens right there?
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy going on, yo. That was probably the
Speaker 1: most openest moment. It's like one of the most because
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy ship, who do I say how to first?
Speaker 1: If I say how, the one is, the other one
Speaker 1: is gonna. But that was so amicable. It was the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of what took place on the internet. Let
Speaker 1: me say something. What's something you said? My choosing sides?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and you ain't saying about yourself.
Speaker 1: You just said like people had to do with that's
Speaker 1: fake ship though when people do that, man, First of all,
Speaker 1: there's no size, bro, it's right and wrong. Right, that's
Speaker 1: one thing. And number two instead of choosing the side
Speaker 1: man like me me, I don't choose sides with family,
Speaker 1: especially if you're family. I don't choose sides with family.
Speaker 1: I try to fix it. If I can't, I'm manya business.
Speaker 1: If you if you call yourself family, you either fix
Speaker 1: it or maya. But you don't choose a side. How
Speaker 1: the funk? I look like choosing the side with my
Speaker 1: family members. And it's no size, it's right or wrong. Like,
Speaker 1: that's fake ship, bro. When you because when you choose
Speaker 1: the side, you know what you're about to do. You're
Speaker 1: about to try to call yourself rolling with the strength
Speaker 1: the fuck got here? Man, I mean that's weak ship,
Speaker 1: all right, you hold me in. Come on, come on
Speaker 1: grave my nigga see shoots on last should Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to share. I ain't gonna the camera, Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good man. My nigga locked in the studio with me,
Speaker 1: recorded that whole project. Man super producer, Man Easy do
Speaker 1: either do Man Win Records. Man. Man, it's a movement.
Speaker 1: There's getting a lot of money over there. My brother
Speaker 1: came up. So let me ask you before we get
Speaker 1: into dig back into the album and the beat. So, like,
Speaker 1: to me, your last relationship like if y'all had an argument,
Speaker 1: y'all a rap battle. No, man, I never happened in
Speaker 1: your mind. That's what you in my mind and my mind.
Speaker 1: So to me, in my mind and this new relationship,
Speaker 1: you can't even are you Like, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You can't even you got that's shout to my queen. Man,
Speaker 1: that's my best friend right there. I love a lot man,
Speaker 1: real bro, like real talk. She did you too, bro,
Speaker 1: Make some noise for that man, she makeing she make
Speaker 1: it known. Let it be known like he running the show,
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean women in that position ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do that. Let it be known like now I
Speaker 1: follow his lead as a woman, but should and I'll
Speaker 1: be talking like me, it's not gonna talk. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He tells me everything he said, tell
Speaker 1: me behind the scenes. It's a good thing when you
Speaker 1: see it. But when you check the temperature of people
Speaker 1: that knew you for a long time, they saying the
Speaker 1: same thing out instart looking out. So he outside looking
Speaker 1: at he like your pattern the way she you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, The way she like everything he just said.
Speaker 1: I want like you was on your phone in the airport.
Speaker 1: I was on my phone too, and I was just
Speaker 1: scrolling and the first thing the person said was you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta tattoo a pool. She said, yeah, on
Speaker 1: my tity. She surprised me with that. She surprised when
Speaker 1: she was doing the interview to my said, yo, did
Speaker 1: you get tap pattern? You're gonna get tapoos tattered on breaking.
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. I'm come on here.
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, I got it on my titty,
Speaker 1: Like skip a beat, like yeah, that was you don't
Speaker 1: remember when she was weighing in and the little kid
Speaker 1: kept looking at her. Oh yeah, yeah, it's crazy out there.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. One day I came out to gym and
Speaker 1: me I was on FaceTime. I got a video of
Speaker 1: that ship too. Since you and Bro, I'm talking to
Speaker 1: the FaceTime she just flashed it. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I was like totally surprised, like that ship right did? Though,
Speaker 1: that's fine. It needed Let me tell you something for real, bro,
Speaker 1: like a brotherfreshir in my life. So I don't tell
Speaker 1: how do you like? My best is different? Bro? So
Speaker 1: how do you bounce back? Though? Like? Right again, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to get any your information, but this is
Speaker 1: the first time I kind of like stepped out publicly, right,
Speaker 1: and this is a big story, like as a journalist,
Speaker 1: So how do you go from from like from a
Speaker 1: place I'm I'm assuming a place of hurt to a
Speaker 1: place of joy? So like so quickly I didn't. It
Speaker 1: just happened, Bro, Okay, I didn't plan it or nothing, man,
Speaker 1: It just it just happened at a you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, a duk time of my life, to be honest.
Speaker 1: You know what, I mean, you know, I don't got nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't got nothing bad to say. Man, I wish,
Speaker 1: I wish you are the best, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But you know I moved on and the man she
Speaker 1: came in my life, bro, and just like, definitely man,
Speaker 1: one of the best things that ever happened to me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I can't even tell you because it happened
Speaker 1: so natural and organic and it wasn't playing like we
Speaker 1: just met after I was at a fight. I went
Speaker 1: to the Chicall fight in Jersey, and when I came
Speaker 1: in the building. First of all, I was always a
Speaker 1: fan of I'm a big boxing fan, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I gotta tell you that. Sean too
Speaker 1: will tell you that. I mean. I'm a big boxing fan.
Speaker 1: So I always watched her coming up. But one day
Speaker 1: I went to the Cha Court fight and as I'm
Speaker 1: going to sit down, I see her over it and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, because it's the ship. But you know,
Speaker 1: you keep it in your mind. You don't want to
Speaker 1: be grouped out, you know what I'm saying. And a
Speaker 1: lot of people was asking me for pictures and ship,
Speaker 1: but I went up to her. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: know how you doing. I shook her hand and when
Speaker 1: I sat down when she had to fight, she loud
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker because runs shod. They like family. So
Speaker 1: she she's screaming and ship and were talking about the fight.
Speaker 1: So when we leaving, people like rushing out for pictures
Speaker 1: and shit, and she by herself. So I'm like, hold on, man, like,
Speaker 1: hold on, man, take time, you know, security, immediately reflict
Speaker 1: and she's like, yo, come to my next fight. So
Speaker 1: like you ain't get the number now, okay, I want
Speaker 1: you to come to my next fight, and then made
Speaker 1: you work for it, talking about she sent me information
Speaker 1: to the fights them me and info to the fight,
Speaker 1: and I went to the fight, and leading up to
Speaker 1: it though we some kind of way when we DM
Speaker 1: we changed numbers and yo, bro, I'll tell you we
Speaker 1: text every day. We never called each other. But let
Speaker 1: me ask you, just texting, what happened if you went
Speaker 1: to the fight and she lost, but you have kept going.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna lose, bro.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 1: I'm telling what she lost, Like would you I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep going? Absolutely, I would have kept going. Roman was right.
Speaker 1: One Bros. Clarissa ships like she don't lose. That's one
Speaker 1: and then the second thing, Hell, yah ain't no sucker, man,
Speaker 1: you take it. I'm leaving now. We don't do that.
Speaker 1: That's real ship. That's funny question for what you said something.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, but he made me maybe. But let's
Speaker 1: get into this album man. The creation of this album yeah,
Speaker 1: Sean two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the album man, it's crazy. You know, the process
Speaker 6: was dope, it was organic. You know, I'm a big
Speaker 6: fan of hip hop. I'm from Mississippi, but I say,
Speaker 6: you know, you know, I always wanted to hear pap
Speaker 6: on Jay Diller type of be you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: because he always been lyricals. So that's what Chill Button
Speaker 6: was like. You know, I was like, Yo, you got
Speaker 6: wing though the shout out left him, man, shout that
Speaker 6: my brother left from Compton. Man, come from Mississippi, but
Speaker 6: he based in Kelly. You know, so my brother left
Speaker 6: you from the West coast.
Speaker 1: Man. That's a solid individual. Man. He basically introduced us.
Speaker 1: He came to me one day because you know, I
Speaker 1: was doing the executive thing. But no in New York
Speaker 1: like Lefty flow out here. He like y'all want you
Speaker 1: to meet this artist, which was Kadisha, the one who
Speaker 1: you asked me about that on my project, Like, y'all
Speaker 1: want you to meet this artist, And we took the meeting.
Speaker 1: I went to Brooklyn chop House that's my second home,
Speaker 1: and they met me the chop House in Miami as well.
Speaker 1: And make a long story, shure I said. When I
Speaker 1: came to the meeting, it was my brother Sean too,
Speaker 1: my brother Big Rube in Kadija and we sat down
Speaker 1: and we talked. Because I was always I'm always helping
Speaker 1: new artists out. Man, like the ship that we've been through,
Speaker 1: I tried to prevent them from going through the same shit, bro,
Speaker 1: and whatever advice I could give, I was just giving
Speaker 1: them genuine advice. And we started to work together. And
Speaker 1: I've seen that a lot of things that they were
Speaker 1: trying to do, I knew how to do it. So
Speaker 1: it's all about adding on it if you got knowledge
Speaker 1: of SELP. So I just started adding on to what
Speaker 1: they was doing and we locked in. We just started
Speaker 1: elevating winning records and here we all, man, we're doing
Speaker 1: concerts across the planet. We got the short fume out.
Speaker 1: We just did a big deal with Clarissa. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, eight million dollar deal. I'm not bragging,
Speaker 1: but yeah. Well, basically, Clarissa found herself man in a
Speaker 1: position where she was in the bidding war because her
Speaker 1: contract ended with the previous entity that she was signed to.
Speaker 1: So I want to say this to you and make
Speaker 1: it clear every boxing entity may offers to her, from
Speaker 1: the biggest to the smallest. I literally set in these
Speaker 1: meetings with her and my team. I see what we've
Speaker 1: been doing. We put a lot of asses in seats
Speaker 1: with these concerts, Like you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like, damn, oh,
Speaker 1: so that was young. Yeah, I'm like, yo, game in
Speaker 1: boxing people don't yo, bro. I'm sitting there, I'm brainstorming.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm brainstorm I'm like yo. But anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at how were able to put asses and seats,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at what she doing as a fighter.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, if we come to together, it'd be crazy.
Speaker 1: So her last fight, which was in Detroit, we came
Speaker 1: together and we saw that motherfuck out. So that was confirmation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna do this one right, and let's
Speaker 1: see what happened. So a lot of times when I
Speaker 1: hate giving games to these niggas, but but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it to him a lot of times when you watched,
Speaker 1: when you go to fights, our artists just pop out
Speaker 1: and you never knew they was gonna be there, so
Speaker 1: you don't get the opportunity for their fan base to
Speaker 1: come out. So what we did the last event shot
Speaker 1: to my brother Rick Ross. We added Rick Ross to
Speaker 1: the to the event, and we was able to promote
Speaker 1: him with the event and one of his strongest markets,
Speaker 1: which is Detroit. So we got Rick Ross, we got Flissa,
Speaker 1: we got myself and her opponent was that shit so
Speaker 1: loud of what sold that mother fuck out to capacity?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So but I was about that.
Speaker 1: So the next tiebout to sing February twenty second, Little
Speaker 1: Seasons a ringa Clarissa will be stepping back in the
Speaker 1: ring her debut pro debut debut. Yeah yeah, yeah, already
Speaker 1: make woman. She's a good box, she can fight. And
Speaker 1: so Little Seesuons is where it's in the traits. Little
Speaker 1: Sesus is called Little Seesons Arena. Yeah, a piece of shop,
Speaker 1: not this arena, man, we would love to have yea
Speaker 1: yea yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Can you
Speaker 1: make sure the crowd with the six niggas in the crowd,
Speaker 1: six niggas throw your hands up, but not February twenty
Speaker 1: seconds she stepped back in the ring. You don't want
Speaker 1: to miss it. Get your tickets there. So I want
Speaker 1: to go jog miles with a workout with her. Oh
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, yeah, she's a beast. So what what
Speaker 1: do you like more? Making the record or performing the record? Oh?
Speaker 1: I would have to say. That's a tough one. Man.
Speaker 1: That's tough, right you Like that's tough as fuck'mna say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say creating the record. Okay,
Speaker 1: creating the record, I want to know how about you?
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you. That's a hall like
Speaker 1: that's a hard one because you love to hear your
Speaker 1: own once you once you finished with the record, you know,
Speaker 1: it's fire like all that nigga, you pat patch yourself
Speaker 1: on the back. But when you see the reaction from
Speaker 1: other people, it's like the confirmation like energy, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: that energy different Like I love performing, I love before
Speaker 1: I would divide the edge, I say performing because because
Speaker 1: nobody's in there when you make it's only your peoples
Speaker 1: in the producer. But when you you give it to
Speaker 1: the world and they're like oh, but when you hear back,
Speaker 1: you be like, oh, I did that? Like kill about
Speaker 1: that because of course, like when I'm working like Has,
Speaker 1: Like when I work with Has, it has to do
Speaker 1: some ship like he'll go, he'll mix it and he'll
Speaker 1: go in the car and help play it from the car.
Speaker 1: And the only time I ever see somebody do that
Speaker 1: it was Swiss Beasts. Swiss Beasts used to come and
Speaker 1: this is before a bootlegging, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So every record I ever kind of did with Swiss Beat,
Speaker 1: Swiss Beast would take this ship and he was like,
Speaker 1: you're coming me to a club and I'm like for
Speaker 1: what and he like, we're gonna test this motherfucker out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, mix, mixed, it's not nothing. And Swiss will
Speaker 1: go in the club and he wouldn't announce it. He
Speaker 1: just play the record and just look at people. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's before bootlegs, just before the phones and
Speaker 1: all that. So I said, have to say, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to pick because from like the method that
Speaker 1: has does when he goes in the car, he listens
Speaker 1: to the record as opposed the Swiss goes and he
Speaker 1: goes and see the people live in real action. It's
Speaker 1: like loading a gun. For me, It's like the gun
Speaker 1: is dope, it's beautiful. I like the bullet is in it,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna love it till I pull that
Speaker 1: trigger and I feel that. So that's what it is like,
Speaker 1: Like I would have never I would have never loved
Speaker 1: super Doug because I sorry to get into my artists
Speaker 1: right the War Report to tell you the truth and
Speaker 1: this is real ship the War Report, every beat was
Speaker 1: t o n why in they and why multiply? So
Speaker 1: I purposely wanted I wanted to be like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like we we we we we
Speaker 1: hype in New York too, like we just and you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta realize, Na, this is the corporate at this
Speaker 1: time used to head. So everybody wants to kind of
Speaker 1: like and that's where killing what came from, kind of
Speaker 1: like to because like these Queensbridge dudes who I was
Speaker 1: signed to, they're not smooth people. I don't know why
Speaker 1: it was on the mic like everybody around them, it's
Speaker 1: just not lading the pavement, and everybody kind of like
Speaker 1: had to follow that. And that's why I was just
Speaker 1: like what what what?
Speaker 3: What what?
Speaker 1: Because that was different, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: if I had to, as long as the record is
Speaker 1: that half a hit, I'll picked performance. I remember this
Speaker 1: actual footage of this super Dog, this actual footage of
Speaker 1: This super Dog when it first came out and the
Speaker 1: number one market was Philadelphia, and I go out there,
Speaker 1: I go, I perform everything to you why they love it?
Speaker 1: And r E they love it? Before Super Doug has
Speaker 1: never came out? What what what? You know? What the
Speaker 1: I got to come back three months later? Boy, it's
Speaker 1: a different thing. Number one record, That's what I like.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you you you bust, you bust. Let me not
Speaker 1: pointed that nobody. Sometimes you bust a gun and and
Speaker 1: and you missed totally, so you want to bust it
Speaker 1: against That's the reason why I performance. I'm gonna leave
Speaker 1: a little bit more towards performance. But once the record
Speaker 1: is a hit, because if you gotta you know so.
Speaker 1: I remember one time I did the show with David
Speaker 1: Banner and you know, all my records like you said,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, pain in my Life and it's day in
Speaker 1: the South. I don't know why they had me headlining
Speaker 1: over this and Nigga wan the Boy, the whole crowd is.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we might as well just leave. I'm telling
Speaker 1: niggas we ain't got nothing. I don't got nothing in
Speaker 1: the change. I got no kind of energy. Song was
Speaker 1: where was your We was in fucking like North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Something nigga set me up. I said, Yo, what the
Speaker 1: And that's why I remember one time I sent pat
Speaker 1: Poosa song. It was some kids like roll By, I
Speaker 1: did it. He was like, nah, Son Nigga was like, nah,
Speaker 1: this killing yourself right now. But I'm like, in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking now I need something everything big. They booked
Speaker 1: me for a birthday party just do the didn't advantage
Speaker 1: of that ship, and I was like, I'll never let
Speaker 1: a nigga do this to me again. I had. I
Speaker 1: really had to get my back end. I had to
Speaker 1: go on after that ship. He just and I called
Speaker 1: him like pain in my life. Young Police was on,
Speaker 1: get the fun out of here, like, nah, we gotta
Speaker 1: be equipped.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Hip hop is a beautiful thing. Bro. You ever got
Speaker 1: bull hand though, thank god I got. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I did it, bro, I take. I would be honest
Speaker 1: versus getting bulled. You know, it's worse getting nothing nothing
Speaker 1: nothing nothing, you know some kind of motion yo that
Speaker 1: when I get to steal, I do cut the meat off.
Speaker 1: I just do alphabetical if I would just keep going
Speaker 1: like yaf so so what what? What? What is something
Speaker 1: that you can't live without in the game, in the game,
Speaker 1: and like making an album? Excuse me? Oh both for
Speaker 1: y'all gonna go first. That's tough. Mm hmm. I would
Speaker 1: say that I can't live without one in the studio,
Speaker 1: like in the studio, yes, amazing, Okay, I gotta have
Speaker 1: a keyboard man. Time to time to think, man. I
Speaker 1: like to think my ship through. Unfortunately, I want to
Speaker 1: be trying to change that like some people like your pa.
Speaker 1: Just you know what I'm saying, Let it flow, But
Speaker 1: I like to think it through. I think if I
Speaker 1: go to the studio and I and I'm rushed, like
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to think about my ship, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about the outcome. I would just say
Speaker 1: a peace of mind, man, I personally can't I don't
Speaker 1: like people in the studio when I record, like exactly
Speaker 1: you want the people there. I don't want nobody more
Speaker 1: than just a couple of people, you know, one person
Speaker 1: for face. If I'm in the booth, they might not
Speaker 1: even be listening, but you know how you could see
Speaker 1: outside the booth and what you're doing your It could
Speaker 1: be one nigga who throw me off like he ain't
Speaker 1: feeling it, and I'm thinking it ain't it ain't working.
Speaker 1: That's why I started saying, you know what, I'd better
Speaker 1: just do it how I like it, And then didn't
Speaker 1: see because this nigga fucked me up just in the studio.
Speaker 1: He might be on his phone mine in his business
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why he ain't bopping his head. I
Speaker 1: don't like niggas like that studio like that. You want
Speaker 1: to be on the stage with you and you just
Speaker 1: standing there too, act like you like this shit. I
Speaker 1: heard Premiere say recently. He said thirty years ago that
Speaker 1: he recorded with nas and there's thirty people in the
Speaker 1: studio and now you be causing no, its just him,
Speaker 1: and you know it's so funny twenty five years ago,
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. If you listen to blood Money.
Speaker 1: I got people in the background. That's if you listened
Speaker 1: to me in the studio last week. I got people
Speaker 1: in the fucking background. It makes me I'm organized chaos.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it very organized, but I
Speaker 1: like it to be very unorganized. Your comfort zone. But
Speaker 1: you don't go a lot though, because these niggas don't
Speaker 1: show up all the time. No, no, no, every time
Speaker 1: I go to the studio, I've never been to make sure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very seldomly like maybe I went to the rest
Speaker 1: studio for myself. Your music is organized chaos, yes, what
Speaker 1: it is?
Speaker 2: What it is?
Speaker 1: Actually? Yeah? Yeah. Have you ever seen a kid online
Speaker 1: who you Yeah? Absolutely your body you know. It was
Speaker 1: his da was his name? Something about bro. I love that.
Speaker 1: Take a lot of niggasn't probably know what you came
Speaker 1: he he does, Man pop can't want that nigga. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's and then now he put niggas you know you
Speaker 1: again said all the many like that us you mocking
Speaker 1: the drake, But no, you're doing good. You know it's
Speaker 1: it's great. It's homage to what I'm saying. This one right,
Speaker 1: you keep watching it. He didn't use the AI face
Speaker 1: because I robbed it the first time. This is his
Speaker 1: fourth time. Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Got.
Speaker 1: I got it, they were saying it to all of us.
Speaker 1: I got When I go on the booth, I always
Speaker 1: turn the light out. Oh yeah, no judgment. No see,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I developed that. Oh yeah, but okay,
Speaker 1: so we both named the one thing you ain't name yours.
Speaker 1: You said, you said instruments, said I need a piece
Speaker 1: of mind, need to piece of mind, and you said
Speaker 1: no nobody. In the end, nobody exactly. That's all I need.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy, and I'm sorry to change the
Speaker 1: subject a little bit. One didn't even have the luxury
Speaker 1: of not having anybody in the studio. You know, they
Speaker 1: still have to bring a couch, so his breath control,
Speaker 1: he had to have that breath control, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because he's sitting down in order for him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like big I've seen big
Speaker 1: lads vocals standing up. You must have some good engineers,
Speaker 1: because you would never know he was punching that much.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and he was none electics for the most part.
Speaker 1: I don't think none of us could punch it in
Speaker 1: back then, like so he had to like tape because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like he had to do it, do the
Speaker 1: whole verse and then go in and then double it
Speaker 1: up and then go in and do it take the
Speaker 1: best part take Yeah. But you know, Pat, you know,
Speaker 1: our show was about giving people their flowers. Wanted to
Speaker 1: give your flowers. Wanted to tell you not only for
Speaker 1: being one of the greatest MC's, but you know, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest father figures, one of the greatest husbands,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest men on earth. We wanted to
Speaker 1: just give your flowers face to face man, and that
Speaker 1: project is phenomenal. Yeah, you don't drink and drive with us. Look, man,
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you. May like being
Speaker 1: in this game a long time. I can't say I
Speaker 1: want a lot of awards, yes, and knowledgement, so I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yeah, I do want to create project. I
Speaker 1: think we deserve it. Do you got nominate me so
Speaker 1: I can say Grammy nominated. That's enough. You have to
Speaker 1: present your album to be Grammy nominated. Still, it's still
Speaker 1: like that, and you have to advocate forward to get
Speaker 1: somebody holler at me from the Grammys. I think I
Speaker 1: deserve it, Man ninth neither. So as a kid watching
Speaker 1: that ship, man, you know, it's just a childhood dream
Speaker 1: for me to win a Grammy. Grammy. Yeah, it ain't
Speaker 1: really no hip hop ship, but shout to the Grammys though,
Speaker 1: So how did you make these beasts? Man? You know what,
Speaker 1: I got a studio, I lock in and I just
Speaker 1: these particular beat.
Speaker 6: Okay, Papa give me, Papa, give me a direction, Like, yo,
Speaker 6: check this out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, hold on, So you wrote the you
Speaker 1: wrote to rhymes first, and then you wanted him to
Speaker 1: match the beat. He's so dope that I said, damn
Speaker 1: it if I could just give him you know you
Speaker 1: hear producer and you be like that was dope, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I just was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: if I could give him a little direction, it'd be
Speaker 1: fucking crazy, right. That was right, Bro was giving a
Speaker 1: little direction and he never felt.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm a geminis, so my production is
Speaker 6: the same way.
Speaker 1: Everything person out of.
Speaker 6: So ship, I just like in like that, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Papa, give me a direction. I'm like okay,
Speaker 6: and I just go into that zone. You know, I
Speaker 6: never spent a lot of time in New York. Only
Speaker 6: when I'm like with him, besar, you know, but I
Speaker 6: just got into the zone that he was in the
Speaker 6: boom boom back. You know, I got respect for that genre,
Speaker 6: hip hop. You know, I got mad love for West
Speaker 6: Coast hip hop. Of course I'm from the South.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: But like going in that era, it was a it
Speaker 6: was a it was a it was adult challenge because
Speaker 6: I ain't never went there.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a funny story. So we got the project.
Speaker 1: We're working on the project. We got the big video
Speaker 1: shooting right well, actually we shooting Calling Green video. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the director we flew. We flew him in from Cali,
Speaker 1: everybody from everybody in from Canty. So I can get
Speaker 1: to the video. It's in New York. I get to
Speaker 1: the video. I'm looking around the ship. I don't see
Speaker 1: the director. So I said, yo, too, what the director
Speaker 1: is that? He's like, Yo, it's men, I see what happened.
Speaker 1: The fucking director he forgot he had his gun and
Speaker 1: got locked up. He got a gun license, but you
Speaker 1: don't give a and he locked him up. So this nigga,
Speaker 1: he directed the motherfucking video never did. He controlled the
Speaker 1: whole scene, so shocking to my niggas. You know, right,
Speaker 1: speaking of director Yoa, I was Pat Poos. You know
Speaker 1: we see him acting in his new joint. But our
Speaker 1: video was the first time we did the joy with
Speaker 1: Omar called Senner Bread. That's a fact had him. We
Speaker 1: had him acting with Omar like he was like, I
Speaker 1: ain't no fucking actor. I was like, these my nigga,
Speaker 1: we just got to get through this ship. That's the
Speaker 1: fact we're working with. He was a season actor and
Speaker 1: this nigga sitting there and looking real. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: nigga looks like he's serious. He's like words like you said,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and the ship came out amazing, Like
Speaker 1: that's what I said. This is not real man, Pat Right,
Speaker 1: We like I said, we go. We got a history
Speaker 1: to goet New York mixtape, mixtape, that's a fact, mixtape DVD.
Speaker 1: Ever gonna know one thing that you told me one time,
Speaker 1: rest in Pac your uncle. I was about to just
Speaker 1: say that, Yeah, we did the first song case Slay
Speaker 1: did this ship. We did a song called head of
Speaker 1: State and he was like, your niggas ain't gonna beef
Speaker 1: your niggasnna work together like, which I wish New York
Speaker 1: could do more now because we could have easily went
Speaker 1: down that bro because I've seen a beef with other
Speaker 1: niggas from the town and I'm like, nah no, a
Speaker 1: lot more unity in New York now. Yeah, But back
Speaker 1: then it wasn't cool to you know, especially when when
Speaker 1: the tsunami came and so me and son working so
Speaker 1: years later we did that song. We did many many men.
Speaker 1: We did a bunch of songs. But his uncles in
Speaker 1: rest in Headston peace man. Yeah, he said, Yo, you
Speaker 1: know that was my uncle's favorite songs I did. My
Speaker 1: life was a wild dude. Man rest in peace, my uncle.
Speaker 1: But it's so crazy anytime you see that nigga, he
Speaker 1: busts out and singing a song, but he's singing sagon verse.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for my You don't understand being sung like.
Speaker 1: It was to the point where I'm like, damn, me
Speaker 1: and Son because I had abandon nation, he had Nation
Speaker 1: and thug ocation like nigga were too similar and we've
Speaker 1: got the Brooklyn everything was like. But then it was like,
Speaker 1: you know what this niggas stand up nigga like Pat
Speaker 1: and easy to block clamp one thing, the easy to
Speaker 1: block ship because I've seen you hit that punching bag
Speaker 1: that you know what I said, if he one of
Speaker 1: them ships couldn't have been one of them that you
Speaker 1: have seen it. You know that you see the numbers
Speaker 1: come up. I don't want to hit to a thousand.
Speaker 1: That all that all rope, that all rope crazy. So
Speaker 1: you guys said there's a part two to this already
Speaker 1: you're working on it now. It's going to crazy. Man.
Speaker 1: I would tell you to open the scene, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to give it away. So where can they
Speaker 1: find a project and videos? A yeah? Well, the the
Speaker 1: actual project is of course Spotify, Apple Music. The visual
Speaker 1: was on to be million right now you millions million?
Speaker 1: So the visuals one short film? Right like a short film? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you, bro, like really, I was really
Speaker 1: trying to get that ship. Like when I permitted, I
Speaker 1: permitted in the movie did like I wanted to do
Speaker 1: something different, bro, and just add on to to what
Speaker 1: we do in hip hop. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We took our time, We took baby steps, like a
Speaker 1: year and a half working on the acting more. Bro
Speaker 1: should act more. Bro, Well you're good at You're good
Speaker 1: at that ship, like even when we doing Siner's Prayer,
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm on a new show with Shock.
Speaker 1: I got to know you want to throw that out
Speaker 1: there myself more to a couple of y'all. Y'all seen like, yeah,
Speaker 1: main things on it. Big Daddy came, Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: it's the Mob show. It ain't. You don't let's sho
Speaker 1: grab your head though. Hell God, kept want no nonse
Speaker 1: another side something, But yeah, man, Like like I said earlier, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm real happy about how to wait and I tell
Speaker 1: him tell them this behind the scenes, like the way
Speaker 1: they're receiving the project.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Pause you know what I'm saying. Sometimes as creatives we
Speaker 1: have a vision when we make our music and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: wait till they hear this and you put it out
Speaker 1: and they don't receive it that way. Man, the love
Speaker 1: I'm getting off this project, I feel real good. Deserve it.
Speaker 1: I'm happy about it. Man. So like I said, it's
Speaker 1: independent but distributed through United Mass distributed to the United
Speaker 1: Masters slash Win Records. I mean, we we a machine, man.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm tired of being humble. We wanted the
Speaker 1: best doing it right now. We wanted the best on
Speaker 1: the music side. On the sports side, we signed a
Speaker 1: lot of new fighters to win slash selet the promotions,
Speaker 1: so y'all will see me promoting fighters. Congratulations to the
Speaker 1: love of my life, Florissa Shields eight million dollar deal again.
Speaker 1: I gotta say it. You know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just happy to be there positive things. Man, I talked
Speaker 1: my shirt and you're gonna cut me off here for
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to talk. He called me last look ahead,
Speaker 1: no way, no go ahead. Now ever more arcade like
Speaker 1: I'm in a tech You know I've been in the tech.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That hip hop my way, hip hop
Speaker 1: my way. Yuh. I got music my Way. The new
Speaker 1: app about to drop January. It's for it's for director consumer.
Speaker 1: I believe if you got to get a million streams
Speaker 1: to make three thousand dollars, you might as well just
Speaker 1: go get three hundred niggas's gonna give you one hundred dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You might you better off
Speaker 1: doing it like that. Go get some three niggas who
Speaker 1: really believe in you, if you talented, Because I look
Speaker 1: at streaming even me and monthly listeners and all that shit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got sixty thousand, seventy things. I know,
Speaker 1: I got weight. I don't sold one hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of records independently. Right, it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. But what I
Speaker 1: want to say is evermore Okay, Like I'm in at Tech,
Speaker 1: Shot to Suit, shout Up, mars A Cash, all these guys,
Speaker 1: they got these platforms. That's really showing artists how to
Speaker 1: be a business. Like really an I p O, like
Speaker 1: you can go you as Nori could be like funk
Speaker 1: that you want to buy some stock and Norri you
Speaker 1: could buy stock and Norrid they can put you on
Speaker 1: an I p O. Your a legal entity as a
Speaker 1: public business. I like that with individual music too, Like
Speaker 1: l Russell's was doing that, it's doing that now he's
Speaker 1: doing That's something. It's something different. It's something way different.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying there's different ways of doing it.
Speaker 1: Now he's not on the stock saying no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, that's crazy. Like you can go public like
Speaker 1: so my man said some ship up my man soup.
Speaker 1: You might know soup. You know slow bucks he started
Speaker 1: slow bucking. Oh yeah, no soup, yeah, soup, my guy,
Speaker 1: yeah shot soup, so and a cash. They put the
Speaker 1: ship together and my man, Mike's I ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: his last name. This is the third time on on
Speaker 1: drink chance y'all clown me for saying mike' semen, Mike
Speaker 1: like you more attention to you just said, but now
Speaker 1: evermore not gonna lie. He's one of the smartest people
Speaker 1: I know ever more r K. He got this. They
Speaker 1: give our million dollars a year or for playing fucking
Speaker 1: app like the technology. Ship is where the money's at. Money.
Speaker 1: Tech is the new oil. Tech is oil. Technology content
Speaker 1: is oil. That's why these streamer kids look at us
Speaker 1: like we dinosaurs. They do something called I r L
Speaker 1: in real life. They don't even record something and put
Speaker 1: it up if it ain't happen. When it happened, it
Speaker 1: ain't happen, and then they clip it so they don't
Speaker 1: sit there and recorded edited. They shoot me live like
Speaker 1: you should have streaming head and shooting this ship live,
Speaker 1: then clip it up on kid. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: what these that's how and it's so it's so mid
Speaker 1: because everything is ad based. If you can get eyeballs,
Speaker 1: that's what you YouTube is doing. That's why Netflix just
Speaker 1: did that deal with our heart. You're getting that. They're
Speaker 1: saying fuck you to we have to cut that niggas
Speaker 1: next all. It's a lot of it's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that we got to be privy to because we
Speaker 1: are the oil and the engine. Were the ones that
Speaker 1: make this ship cool. We're the cool factor. Without us,
Speaker 1: none of this ship works, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You see the only niggas making the big money. We
Speaker 1: think a few ms is money. And then they look like,
Speaker 1: oh they lick. They think they think they lick because
Speaker 1: they made a few ms. Meanwhile we made the hundreds
Speaker 1: of million. We make a hundreds of millions. That's why
Speaker 1: those billionaire part Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's why they're making billionaires a regular thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're going for trillion exactly. Noigas trying to hit
Speaker 1: a trillion like a couple of niggas. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's a double sword, believe So I think I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's it's evolution.
Speaker 2: It's awesome for the creator. There's a lot that we
Speaker 2: could do with it. But I think we don't really
Speaker 2: fully understand the long term like a gun.
Speaker 1: Like a gun, you could use a gun for good
Speaker 1: or you can use it for bad. You can use
Speaker 1: a gun to protect your family, but shoot itself unless
Speaker 1: you drop it. This AI can shoot itself. Said about
Speaker 1: somebody got pro that's not what the creators about AI
Speaker 1: you think about. I just think I think it's it's evolution.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's definitely evolution. It's technology.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: The thing about it is with with how far do
Speaker 1: you let it go?
Speaker 2: I think the creed is the part that's gonna exactly
Speaker 2: where it's gonna go.
Speaker 1: Left isn't putting the guardrails. I think. First of all,
Speaker 1: I want to say shout out to because you talk
Speaker 1: about music or just over I'm just going to music
Speaker 1: right now, we're talking about talking about more. I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about the music aspect of it. I was able
Speaker 1: to do to make a nice sized bag with Google
Speaker 1: like do an AI project, so they had me, John
Speaker 1: Legend and a bunch of people, so I see where
Speaker 1: it could be productive. That's sure feeding your family. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this. As far as the music, I
Speaker 1: think the wack rappers in trouble. I think niggas that
Speaker 1: really could rap, they're good because A I can't do
Speaker 1: it real, I don't know. Ye're hearing them fifty so
Speaker 1: many men songs, like when they do the old school.
Speaker 5: One reggae version, the original version and more. You're saying
Speaker 5: for originality, I'm saying. I'm saying, like deliriousis they can't.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen the AI do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, so Jo it's crazy. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what to dude, both of y'all go to chat
Speaker 1: g B team be like, do a dis record against
Speaker 1: Norri and you go there, I did that ship that
Speaker 1: ships flaming megas, you record nigga disrecord against Sago. This
Speaker 1: ship new my whole life that this ship was flaming.
Speaker 1: I was like, and that's not even the crazy, not
Speaker 1: the crazy.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like we under educated with AI,
Speaker 2: and sometimes we think we sound cool by talking about
Speaker 2: AI without really knowing what really can potentially happen with AI.
Speaker 1: Like when I'm telling I'm looking, you gotta look at
Speaker 1: the CEOs and the people that create AI.
Speaker 2: They're warning they're they're scared of it if they created it,
Speaker 2: and they're scared of it.
Speaker 1: Then I don't know what then, so let me ask you,
Speaker 1: let me ask you. No Ai, but God comes down,
Speaker 1: God says, Pat, you gotta make a record for humanity.
Speaker 1: Nobody here. You can't pick nobody here. You get one
Speaker 1: producer and one feature. This record is gonna save your manity.
Speaker 1: Nine content just whatever? Who this Pat? Pick feature? Yep,
Speaker 1: that're all live? Okay, Okay, I made it easier for
Speaker 1: you when you said that I'm not impressive. I do it.
Speaker 1: The one, the one feature. I will have to say big.
Speaker 1: And the producer beat my brother Sean to no, no, no,
Speaker 1: what not not here? I can't he took him out.
Speaker 1: I didn't winness that. Okay, I'm gonna go honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go, doctor Drake. Oh that's all, Doctor Drake. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now I'm flippit of bouncing on you. Now the feature
Speaker 1: has to be alive. And now the producer it's passed away. Okay,
Speaker 1: the feature, I will say, nas you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying somewhere to be honest, man, okay, and the producer
Speaker 1: gotta be deceased. Yes, I'm gonna say, John, I won't
Speaker 1: take you question. I missed the question, he repeating, who
Speaker 1: who's your favorite ducer?
Speaker 6: My favorite producers is uh Curtis Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, that was that was the question. He
Speaker 1: answered different Yeah, a whole different things. It was a
Speaker 1: crazy scenario. Yeah, damn man, Curtis Mayfield Mayfield. I can
Speaker 1: hear that. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't very I
Speaker 1: didn't even know Curtis Mayfield. But neither. Yeah, I ain't.
Speaker 1: I ain't. Never been stuck like that. Yeah, m you
Speaker 1: know us was the genius on the low. I'll be sure.
Speaker 1: I'll be sure still a genie. I'll be sure. Still musically,
Speaker 1: what's the last ship? Man? I don't believe. I don't believe.
Speaker 1: Being a genius is like playing basketball, like you don't
Speaker 1: get older and it's like stop being you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You don't lose it. You don't lose it,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like you don't lose your knees achilles, don't
Speaker 1: break out on your geniusness, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's illegenious. He just gotta like he put in the
Speaker 1: right run using it no more. Yeah, I know. To me,
Speaker 1: you got to be put in the right room, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like the credit he don't like he did all that
Speaker 1: Tevin Camp. He was writing the nigga pen and his insdruction.
Speaker 1: He produced his first album like the ineffect Mode or
Speaker 1: like Night and Day, all them songs they raised us
Speaker 1: and Ship. He was producing them Ships, Night and Day.
Speaker 1: I want to get on your nigga was writing them
Speaker 1: songs all. I'll be sure he brung the light Skin
Speaker 1: Brothers back out back out. It was out of style,
Speaker 1: and he brought the darkskin niggas back. Come on, who
Speaker 1: brought the niggas back after that? Because it goes back
Speaker 1: and forth going. Chris Brown got it right now, no, no,
Speaker 1: no after. I'll be sure. I would have to say
Speaker 1: about default nas Now's is in the middle son Nah
Speaker 1: he likes Nah, he likes Alien back t y, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that. Can Wesley Snipe West Snipe. Biggie Big, bigger, bigger,
Speaker 1: different type big different. You know, every fat nigga got
Speaker 1: something fat in their name, like Biggie Small, chub Rock,
Speaker 1: fat Boys, heavy d You gotta acknowledge it. Every little
Speaker 1: nigga got little in their name. Too then, but every
Speaker 1: fat rapper you have to that's marketing without even realizing it,
Speaker 1: because you really have to acknowledge the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: you fat, a big dude that's already without without the extra,
Speaker 1: the largest, the biggest, the largest with that nigga name
Speaker 1: big asked the plug. It's another nigga. No that's not
Speaker 1: his name. His name he reminds me of pun. There's
Speaker 1: a couple of them that sits down on the couch
Speaker 1: when he performs oh drinking beef and when they by
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I think shout out, I ain't this you man?
Speaker 1: Like he want all the action?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 1: What some of Peter fifthest on one on one right
Speaker 1: now like that kind of a k on the roof.
Speaker 1: Anybody can get it right now? Two fifty oh yeah
Speaker 1: right yeah? So what was your favorite summer jam? I
Speaker 1: mean shameless plugged the woman Buster brought me out back
Speaker 1: like seven man come true? Who was that? Who else
Speaker 1: was out there with y'all? It was a crazy lineup.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the whole lineup, but everybody performed that
Speaker 1: there everybody was when the record came out. I'm mistaken
Speaker 1: or most of us. But besides that, I ain't gonna lie,
Speaker 1: bro I'm gonna keep it real. I'm a not fan.
Speaker 1: When jay Z did that take over, well that really
Speaker 1: was that nas That was really more towards his prodigy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but at the end, look how you ended it. One
Speaker 1: of the whole son, you know what it was like
Speaker 1: for Maybe he shouldn't have said that because the can
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what it was like he
Speaker 1: did want to nig to say that though I thought
Speaker 1: it was a typo, you know what I mean. That
Speaker 1: was one of the things I don't believe that I
Speaker 1: was here, said New York City history, like was like
Speaker 1: when like like like when they actually like indulged, like
Speaker 1: because we always thought we got a lot of girls
Speaker 1: little Jude, no of y'all do you always thought that?
Speaker 1: And then like it was going back and forth. But
Speaker 1: you know what's the crazy shit about that Prodigy picture.
Speaker 1: We all went to that studio, We all saw the
Speaker 1: picture and never looked at it as a war tactics
Speaker 1: like that was his grandmother's studio, like we all have,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. So one of your niggas gave that nigga. No, no,
Speaker 1: I mean like when you walked into a lot of
Speaker 1: people saw it. It was like an S I R. Studio.
Speaker 1: For lack of a better how did get it? Anybody have?
Speaker 1: You couldn't take a picture of them, but anybody could have.
Speaker 1: That's like anybody somebody walking in right now taking a
Speaker 1: picture of the drink already. But no one looked at
Speaker 1: it like war tactics. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: like one, we didn't put too and two together that
Speaker 1: because he was a ballerina was hated. It wasn't you.
Speaker 1: It was like it was I'm not allowed to say
Speaker 1: bad about Pete because the Internet gonna kill me anything
Speaker 1: I said about Pridy to me. But the picture didn't
Speaker 1: look like it looked like a young nigga would like
Speaker 1: it was dancing. It was strategic on Jay's side. He said.
Speaker 7: A ballerine. It was no one ever actually looks and
Speaker 7: says that's side of hey man, Hey, it was the
Speaker 7: way he said it. You the picture, Yeah, yeah, dropped
Speaker 7: ship one.
Speaker 1: Swishing like some ship like you addressing piece of po.
Speaker 1: P was one of the only niggas who post would
Speaker 1: get into jay Z skin Man constantly that nigga break
Speaker 1: that down. For breaking down, bro, jay Z knows everybody
Speaker 1: I ain't prodigy. That Nigga respawned Prodigy and Jim Jones
Speaker 1: fifty two fifty Curtis got him. Yeah, but I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like I'm about a dollar lost fifty fifty seved
Speaker 1: when he said that, I was mad that right, it
Speaker 1: was no denying fifty. But just like niggas, everybody game
Speaker 1: cruising that Nigga always responded to Pedo. Wow, I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that. Yeah, pople A, he had a mean run
Speaker 1: at one time. It's Peno. I'm gonna tell you something
Speaker 1: about Prodigy, right, He probably the most sampled voice in
Speaker 1: hip hop ever that nigga. Might I thot I used
Speaker 1: to I used to go between Guru method man, they
Speaker 1: all deep the l voice niggas that nigga Prodigy. Think
Speaker 1: about all the songs they sample for his songs, even
Speaker 1: jay Z jay Z sample. You know, I Illuminati. When
Speaker 1: my mind sold him about pun I gave you fair
Speaker 1: warning beware like that Nigga's voice is so sampled. He
Speaker 1: he had, he had a golden tone bro like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't even have to be crazy. Prodigy didn't have
Speaker 1: to be super duper duper like technically lyrical because his presidence.
Speaker 1: He has something that it's so hard to bite. His style,
Speaker 1: his that was unbiteable. Nigga couldn't bite Prodigy Nigga that
Speaker 1: could go for like Peter Gold, like four balls and
Speaker 1: nothing wrong and it's still wasn't infamous album. P That
Speaker 1: was afterwards he developed that like he was just thinking
Speaker 1: that Nigga went on the run his ship and nobody
Speaker 1: couldn't funk with him. He's glass tables and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I throw a TV at you TV. He was saying.
Speaker 1: It was like better than the round for man, like
Speaker 1: the nigga with your rest places said I break red
Speaker 1: ribs one hundred dollars. His first lines is, so was
Speaker 1: the record come on catch you coming out your fucking
Speaker 1: crag nigga? All the killers in one hundred dollars that
Speaker 1: niggas is new with the saving for the ship ones
Speaker 1: was she wasn't a record. That ship was a move movement,
Speaker 1: Like I remember everything that happened in my life when
Speaker 1: that was coming. He too had the big stupid north
Speaker 1: face on jumping off the fran playing that more deep ship. Nigga,
Speaker 1: Yeah that was serious. You had a hell of a
Speaker 1: ton to let me. It was crazy I think I've
Speaker 1: seen another interview with the Homeboy the Thugs. Calm down, No, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did come again seeing my bigger probably my big
Speaker 1: record float. He's a monster. He's like one of the
Speaker 1: other producers. Like you can't you can't like listen to
Speaker 1: his sound and say that's him. Yeah, he can come
Speaker 1: in like you know, he got a sound though, but
Speaker 1: you gotta be yeah. I mean you, I mean yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What is he do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, I mean yell like he did.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the snare.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes George pro is dope. Rock is crazy. To
Speaker 1: see the Award a War show A l A Yeah,
Speaker 1: l A recently and they was break dancing like that's it.
Speaker 1: So when we were talking earlier, excuse me, I was
Speaker 1: pointing you. When we were talking earlier about the New
Speaker 1: York ship, I can't lie. I can't lie. L A
Speaker 1: gave it up, like they gave a whole little ceremony
Speaker 1: and they were breakdancing. You can tell there was no
Speaker 1: separation that night, that ship that you we're talking about,
Speaker 1: because I suffered from that too. That's like, damn. Why
Speaker 1: they always like kind of like like I don't want
Speaker 1: to say, look down l A wasn't like that though
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this. This was a party. Risin was
Speaker 1: there and everyone here South. We were talking about we
Speaker 1: were saying earlier is I let pat say because I
Speaker 1: don't want all about the situation, like we were talking
Speaker 1: about how he was here. He came at the end.
Speaker 1: I think he came towards the New York. We were
Speaker 1: just talking about how niggas behaving on New York. But
Speaker 1: that was the South South, and the West was different
Speaker 1: the West. I'm gonna tell you when the West started
Speaker 1: not liking niggas, when niggas was like you over there
Speaker 1: second or that New York did ice Cube, but ice
Speaker 1: col left n w A and went to the bombs
Speaker 1: Squas like no, no, no, no, n w A. But
Speaker 1: what are you saying? Ice Cube?
Speaker 2: Left wing wanted specific So.
Speaker 1: You remember when they just here's what they think about you.
Speaker 1: Here's what they think about since you over there sucking
Speaker 1: to so much New York, dick, don't you come east
Speaker 1: of that Chicago pussy? You don't remember that skit on
Speaker 1: n w AS album but produced by New York producers. No,
Speaker 1: that was n w AS. That was w A's rebuttal
Speaker 1: when he left the group when yeah, you're right, Nigga,
Speaker 1: when you're right. When he left the when Niggas for
Speaker 1: Life came out, that's when it because Ice Q came
Speaker 1: over here. When he left n w A, he came
Speaker 1: to the East Coast and started working with Bomb Squad
Speaker 1: was Public Enemy producers. They did the whole America's Most Wanting.
Speaker 1: That's why it sounds a lot like Public Enemy albums.
Speaker 1: So there's a skit on that. Here's what they thinking
Speaker 1: on Niggas for Life. Since you're over there sucking so
Speaker 1: much New York, Dick, won't you come east of the
Speaker 1: Chicago pussy? Some girl called up like the caller and
Speaker 1: them niggas they funk with us. Since then that really started.
Speaker 1: It wasn't its Ice come, yeah, look at you.
Speaker 8: I don't know, tell I remember, I know that's called
Speaker 8: I think Benedic Donalds was like, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: Niggas for Life. The album Nigga's Life was so like
Speaker 1: the West Coast had a mean they had run just
Speaker 1: like the South. Bro know Niggas for No of course
Speaker 1: it had a run before this, maybe longer or just
Speaker 1: as long, Ja quick J. The city Ship was old
Speaker 1: West Coast battle Cat DJ Quick. You gotta think that
Speaker 1: these niggas was killing doctor and Dope Man and Ship
Speaker 1: came out eighty eight. Bro, that's not the same time
Speaker 1: as Caane like Dope Man, Dope Man. Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 1: You cannot get a j and Icy and right and
Speaker 1: in that whole movement that she was eighties my brother Icy,
Speaker 1: that's family. They came to the Premier Man six, my
Speaker 1: brother that Ship was eight. That's eighties. Icey was playing
Speaker 1: the same character for thirty seven years. They finally cand
Speaker 1: them done what yeah they got. They ain't can't go
Speaker 1: Google Google's do the Icy Man. I ain't gonna lie that.
Speaker 1: That's family, Bro, I ain't gonna lie. Shout the Ice
Speaker 1: Man nigga. Yeah, Ice a real solid, that's a real
Speaker 1: down the ice before I knew she wrapped anybody. Bro.
Speaker 1: That's why he comes out here and helps New York artists.
Speaker 1: He loves literacy. Paint the pain, yeah, pain like Ice Teams.
Speaker 1: One of the first ones of Coach signed him. Ice
Speaker 1: Ty came out of co signing Mad Dude. Now that's
Speaker 1: how he is, bro. He embraced real hip hop. He
Speaker 1: embraced me as a young and he was smoothing. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: them niggas individual. When I was I'm like, is that
Speaker 1: Ice team? That's the fact. Just then when I did
Speaker 1: for me for my project, the nigga Ice pulled up.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: He always shows a solid just a real individual because
Speaker 1: of that, just because that's what he is exactly. Shout
Speaker 1: the last Pro man larst Pro did some beats for me,
Speaker 1: man and that ship like that mean, I was real
Speaker 1: happy about that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to Large Bro. He mixed them
Speaker 1: down the whole ship, sent them to me like quality man.
Speaker 1: So I just want to shout him out. I love
Speaker 1: telling the story, telling a story. I'll go Toby, that
Speaker 1: Large Pro went to way Quan show and sat in
Speaker 1: the front, comes out and he have no so Bro
Speaker 1: left the show. He was like, I can't see the
Speaker 1: guard and not beating the guard.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I imagine. I imagine he don't even know how to
Speaker 1: order breakfast. I imagine Large Pro like, yo, you got
Speaker 1: the turkey bacon, like he's so hip high, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't think he knows how to be
Speaker 1: like like normal, Like I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 1: that ship in La where Riz giving him an Award.
Speaker 1: He's so much like like how you did with us
Speaker 1: with the flowers. He's so much not used to like
Speaker 1: taking credit. He's sitting there the whole time is Riz
Speaker 1: is making him up. He's making like and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: take your He's so much hip hop like he can't
Speaker 1: see who, he can only see the image of the
Speaker 1: person that you are as a hip hop like. I
Speaker 1: don't think he'll ever call you like, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: wan't to ever call l L by his world name.
Speaker 1: I remember I was coming around and he was like
Speaker 1: Tard and and then people were violated, was like tell
Speaker 1: Tard and I was like, ta is tall, Like I'm
Speaker 1: like that man name is l my motheruck, I don't
Speaker 1: even give He tells me call me TA call me Jane, No,
Speaker 1: I refuse Yo, who jay to me? L L one
Speaker 1: of the only dudes that showed up with my brother
Speaker 1: K slave funeral man shot to l L. Also also
Speaker 1: when they was fronting you know what I'm saying, when
Speaker 1: I was trying to carry you on Slave Radio show
Speaker 1: and a lot of platforms was fronting because when he
Speaker 1: first died, they wanted to fake celebrate and all that
Speaker 1: l L gave me the Drama Hour every Friday. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying nine pm. I'm carrying on the legacy my
Speaker 1: brother case So l L is the solid individ. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaks of Rock the Bells. Definitely, it's last time I
Speaker 1: seen you. And uh yeah, Rocky Bell's cruise. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think about the Rock the Bells Cruise. It's a big deal.
Speaker 1: I ain't make one yet, but I do want to show.
Speaker 1: I've never been drink champs. Not perfect. Maybe I've never
Speaker 1: been in those summer jam that he's been. I've never
Speaker 1: been the first summer jam I tried like another first
Speaker 1: Nah had this limma with stickers on. It was ninety four.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety four was the first summer jam and we
Speaker 1: niggas ain't had no take. We was kids anyway, and
Speaker 1: niggas is just like oh ship, they go such you
Speaker 1: never performed that. I've never even been in the building
Speaker 1: when it was having a summer while I went to
Speaker 1: every one when I was never been there. I've never
Speaker 1: been inside in those bands. Now, I wanted to know
Speaker 1: Pleaser every summer jam before I got on, I was
Speaker 1: there every year. I've never been. He's like everyone, Yeah
Speaker 1: I was and when I performed. It was thanks to
Speaker 1: my brother Buster Man. Shout out the Buster. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He he brought me out. Man, that
Speaker 1: was a dreaming. Think is over? He thinks over. That's
Speaker 1: my next question. Somebody said, definitely not the same. It's not.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean I think I think. If I think
Speaker 1: Flex is going to fight to the death, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Let me just tell you something. Let's taking
Speaker 1: more this show. Wow. Yeah, let me tell you something, Peter,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Man, say something. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you Flex. You know, Flex is you know when
Speaker 1: the Titanic was going down and the guy is like this,
Speaker 1: hold on, he's that guy. He's also the guy on
Speaker 1: the plan and he's also the captain. He'll go out
Speaker 1: of this. Let me tell you something, Man was not
Speaker 1: even everybody, yo, every artist even, and Flex never played
Speaker 1: your record. He never played it as much you as
Speaker 1: you wanted them to play or whatever. Yo, my nigga,
Speaker 1: you want to sit back. I sat back a long
Speaker 1: time ago. I said, this motherfucker is on the radio
Speaker 1: every day for five hours. My whole life. Man flexed
Speaker 1: drive and his grind and his dedication to this DJ
Speaker 1: ship is to be studied. Say what you want niggas
Speaker 1: is ninety seven new location. They got roaches in the building.
Speaker 1: When I heard that, they come up with that's just
Speaker 1: like nigga, we standing on your ship. You see this
Speaker 1: loal Flex he said, we're going down with the shiro
Speaker 1: me pull over, yo, man, throw your head out the window.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, bro. Recently going that's staring the cat stop.
Speaker 1: So I just went out a new song recently where
Speaker 1: I'm paying you know the niggas. You gotta pay to
Speaker 1: do the mix show. So staying that on your phone? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: know you're paying that yeah, up the pet radio promo.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I need Flex. At least I had
Speaker 1: a new song, right. So Flex was like I want
Speaker 1: to get on the phone with him. This is like
Speaker 1: literally three three four weeks ago weeks. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: why do you like? So I'm like, fuck it if
Speaker 1: you want to get on the phone more than like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna play the record. But I don't understand what
Speaker 1: the issue is. So he gets on the phone. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it's been more to my attention. You have some niggative
Speaker 1: things you said. I'm like, Flex, you could scatter the
Speaker 1: whole internet. I ain't never said no. Fact, I respect
Speaker 1: niggas don't like you. Flex does not take no he don't.
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, he don't take no money. I said,
Speaker 1: he want to make sure y'all good like Nigga. I
Speaker 1: ain't about to be sitting here celebrating the nigga to
Speaker 1: be shipping on me. He was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's like Nigga's been
Speaker 1: telling me some things. I'm like, yo, fam, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I ain't never said nothing bad about it. I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is ship called chet GBT Nigga. That ship was
Speaker 1: scoured the whole world. And then play and then he
Speaker 1: played the record. And he started playing the record and
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, most dedicated, one of the most
Speaker 1: dedicated DJs I've seen besides slave like slave man talk. Yes,
Speaker 1: how many jail people come up to you ask you
Speaker 1: about law library? Oh? I can't even count it, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I had dudes come up to me like, and
Speaker 1: I can tell they who they say to y'all and
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, bro, it wasn't for you. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have got through my bed. I wouldn't have knew about
Speaker 1: the technicality. That helped me come home. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, Yo, when I was locked up, law
Speaker 1: library saved me. So that besides alphabetical, that's another express
Speaker 1: That ship, right, y'a took me going in that should
Speaker 1: be another one of those visuals and everything visual. It's
Speaker 1: content thing, it is visual. Now you did a lot.
Speaker 1: You know my ship was charaised though oh yeah, my
Speaker 1: ship was raised. Who am I like? That ship was
Speaker 1: that concept? That's when I was like, that was slaves.
Speaker 1: They gave me that beat man and never forget it.
Speaker 1: He's like something that live from the hood. That was
Speaker 1: my ship, bro, and it forced men. I need to
Speaker 1: put that out to me. Man, you ever got criticism
Speaker 1: for alphabetic No, I got a lot of copy cats,
Speaker 1: though I ain't getting called me a copy cat when
Speaker 1: I did letter P so I didn't let her with
Speaker 1: coolgie rat. I'm like Nigga. I did one letter this
Speaker 1: nigga person that I remember that Nigga did the whole Outmit.
Speaker 1: This ship ain't nothing, nah, I hear him on that poof.
Speaker 1: I told you, bro, if I'm on the stay and
Speaker 1: I'm getting a steal, I go sorter bag when I
Speaker 1: used to battle on the street a nigga. If a
Speaker 1: nigga went about alphabetical slow time, that sh saved my
Speaker 1: life world. And the way I came up with that
Speaker 1: was I remember when I was a kid and I
Speaker 1: read that they said Malcolm Mix read the whole dictionary
Speaker 1: when he was in jail. I was like, damn, you
Speaker 1: read the whole dictionary. I never forgets autobiography, I'll tell you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said that. Yeah, so I wouldn't have got it
Speaker 1: was the Webster's Third World College Edition. I never forget it.
Speaker 1: And I read that I started doing it. When I
Speaker 1: started doing it. While I'm doing it, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I could make a rap about this ship, and I
Speaker 1: started doing the noise for that ain't gonna. I thought
Speaker 1: Malcolm was out of his making mind. I never messed upody.
Speaker 1: You really read the whole diction? Yeah? When I I
Speaker 1: got it for Malcolm Mixed though, yeah. Yeah. When I
Speaker 1: seen that, I was like, I'm copying that ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you write rhymes down? Or I used to when
Speaker 1: I was young, but as I got older, if I
Speaker 1: if I write around them, I might wrap about the paper.
Speaker 1: So like, through the course of my real talk, real ship.
Speaker 1: I might trap about the so like this right here
Speaker 1: is inspired and I'll make a verse out of this
Speaker 1: right here, just sitting here with you'll, like, throughout the
Speaker 1: course of my day, my experiences, I'm always thinking of
Speaker 1: lines and ship. Wow you right, well, yeah, you're right right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, because I have to memorize. It's like smoke marijuana.
Speaker 1: You know what happened. You know what happened When Biggie
Speaker 1: said he didn't write, everybody started saying it right right.
Speaker 1: But some of these books to write, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: about gimmick because most of them be in the studio
Speaker 1: when they make, when they creating. So whether I write
Speaker 1: it down or say it in the mic, it's the
Speaker 1: same ship and recording it. So whether I write it down,
Speaker 1: I'm recording it. But whether I think and I just
Speaker 1: say instead of writing it, I'm just gonna say it
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go wait and then come up
Speaker 1: with the next line. Niggas build a rhyme up. Niggas
Speaker 1: don't for me, but yeah, right, Niggas act like niggas
Speaker 1: going and and be like and then go freestyle the
Speaker 1: whole ship. Nah. Only certain niggas caund do that. But
Speaker 1: for me, that there not right. And Shane Wayne could
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, Wayne Wayne cooked as dope as shout
Speaker 1: the Wayne he jumped on. I did ready. I did
Speaker 1: ready with Wayne, and I thought I was nice cooked Me.
Speaker 1: Wayne is insane dope lyricists. That's one of the lyricists.
Speaker 1: Bro Like for real, I didn't know he do that
Speaker 1: in the studio. He sent me the verse that he
Speaker 1: did for me. Yeah, he centers to you fast but
Speaker 1: not writing ship. What happened with me was when I,
Speaker 1: like I said, I might wrap about the paper, So
Speaker 1: I got to find another way to write, like and
Speaker 1: I get inspired to experience it. So I got to
Speaker 1: a space where I couldn't write. So by default I
Speaker 1: didn't write for years. But like I said, Biggie made
Speaker 1: it cool. Every rapper claimed they don't write. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. I'm familiar with the
Speaker 1: art named d one. Yeah, we just had. He was
Speaker 1: after and he showed up because he reminds me of
Speaker 1: him before me. Huh, I met him. I got a
Speaker 1: new song coming out, my new songs when okay, and
Speaker 1: I ain't like he's like positivity. I got a lot
Speaker 1: of respect, but his skill level still like when you
Speaker 1: put yourself in a bubble where you can't talk about niggas.
Speaker 1: He don't curse, you don't nigga, you don't say is old.
Speaker 1: So he puts itself in a little bubble like you
Speaker 1: ain't got a lot of room. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the problem. You know what I think is a problem.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got a problem. I think that
Speaker 1: the little problem is is when he gets through to
Speaker 1: a brother. Let's suppose he got through to g Z
Speaker 1: or whatever, right and he says, yo, man, geez, like
Speaker 1: how you taking your approach and you you're doing a
Speaker 1: new leaf and then you know it whatever. But then
Speaker 1: he'll go, but I want you to go undo what
Speaker 1: you did. And that's just you just can't take it back.
Speaker 1: I don't just can't punch. I never heard him like yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll say like, yeah he said that, I forget who
Speaker 1: it was. What like all the damage you called? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he wants people to renounce it in the damn. Don't
Speaker 1: telling niggas sell coke, Telling niggas destroy the community. Tell
Speaker 1: niggas yo, push keys, but you can't undo that. You
Speaker 1: can't you could grow. I never heard him say that though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I forget who it was, and I wanted to call
Speaker 1: him personally and be like because I believe he like
Speaker 1: was trying to get through to a artist. I forget
Speaker 1: who it was, and he got through to him. He
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, So all I want you to do
Speaker 1: is like you know, telling people that you sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't may have called I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: if I remember the game Maddics Madix when you like
Speaker 1: you got something in your hand, I don't think you
Speaker 1: ever forgive me for that, Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I could do that to you in third grade.
Speaker 1: You could be fucking sixty three years old. It's like
Speaker 1: I need to give him back. Imagine nigga giving you
Speaker 1: a wedgiety is unforgivable. If you picked me up on
Speaker 1: my throw, what you got to the unforgivable we got
Speaker 1: be for I don't think. I don't think that. I
Speaker 1: don't blame hip hop stuff like that, right, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's bro, you got Smith and Wesson,
Speaker 1: you got all these different guns, skip past them and
Speaker 1: blame hip hop Jones talked the other day Earn your
Speaker 1: Legia was saying that we all kind of need to
Speaker 1: take responsibility because hip hop has gave a lot of positivity,
Speaker 1: but it gave a lot of negativity. What do you
Speaker 1: say to that? I disagree? Okay, I disagree. Do you
Speaker 1: know how many, bro we wouldn't be sitting here without
Speaker 1: hip hop exactly? Do you know what I mean? Jobs
Speaker 1: hip hop created? How many lives hip hop has saved?
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand probably shooting at each other in
Speaker 1: the probably like my only way out when I was
Speaker 1: going through that type of ship in my life, the
Speaker 1: only thing I had to look forward to with you
Speaker 1: one day, I'm I'm gonna be successful in hip hop,
Speaker 1: Like that's something to look forward to when it's creating
Speaker 1: jobs and it's doing a lot of things. We live
Speaker 1: in America, man, America is built on balance and set
Speaker 1: and raping pillage. So you can't just blame hip hop.
Speaker 1: You skip past all of these more smith and Western hecking,
Speaker 1: the cotch, all of these different mother fuckers who distributed
Speaker 1: distributed fire rooms, and you blame hip hop for the
Speaker 1: balance in America. No, no, no, it don't make sense.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. I don't blame hip
Speaker 1: hop no no, no, I met before. I think I
Speaker 1: think creed their own taking ownership. That d one you
Speaker 1: gotta talk about shameless plug Well wishes you like I
Speaker 1: want dope though he's dope, definitely Like one thing that
Speaker 1: one thing a nigga won't do is try to test
Speaker 1: this pandemic. That's one thing I'm gonna point out to you.
Speaker 1: A nigga won't try. I don't say more than you counted.
Speaker 1: I'm very long, very boor yes you do. I was
Speaker 1: watching you. I was like, I'm counting. I'm like this
Speaker 1: nigga not because I'm trying to be better with my
Speaker 1: own self. So like that, how do we what's the
Speaker 1: word to replace it? Ain't I tried to replace it
Speaker 1: with slime. That ain't it. That's my thigh. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I was trying to, like, you know,
Speaker 1: one everybody ain't yet in word and to everybody ancient
Speaker 1: slime like the way they use slime right now, from
Speaker 1: Young Doug to the gang members. It's like, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of mad. Did I get y'all that? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like that was on the first person. That
Speaker 1: was me trying to actually replace the in world, trying
Speaker 1: to say something else. But then I realized slime itself
Speaker 1: is also a negative kind of you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's like, yo, nobody flim right like, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was I think what I think what happened was
Speaker 1: and everybody ain't your brother neither. I hate that's the fact.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this. A lot of people in
Speaker 1: this industry that I that I love and that I
Speaker 1: call brother, right, but then I see who they call brother,
Speaker 1: and it's like, it kind of doubts me of my
Speaker 1: brotherhood with you because that dude that you just said
Speaker 1: my brother ain't your brother. You ever had a white
Speaker 1: dude call you brother? And it felt racist? Like logan
Speaker 1: like yeah, bro, you like come on, bro, like like
Speaker 1: to say, what are you saying? You're being funny? You know,
Speaker 1: let me say this. We got to go to Let
Speaker 1: me say this real quick. First of all, I want
Speaker 1: to salute you on the end world, Okay. I love that.
Speaker 1: I respect the growth of it because you saw me
Speaker 1: on the phone to it and I respect it. But
Speaker 1: I think what happened was, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: last things our people heard when they was throwing in
Speaker 1: the self getting that cell. Nigga right or die nigga
Speaker 1: and slavery. That word was used against us so bad.
Speaker 1: I think in modern times our people kind of flipped
Speaker 1: it like and use it more as a term of
Speaker 1: endem it. You that nigga or my nigga. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying expression to show up. Maybe we had
Speaker 1: the wrong direction, So I salute you on what you can.
Speaker 1: I say one thing forcuse you're about to cut my ship, yo.
Speaker 1: One thing we do that with not just that word.
Speaker 1: Look at what we did with dope. That ship is
Speaker 1: dope like them sniggers is crack, But dope is not offensive.
Speaker 1: You said dope was something that destroyed our community. There's
Speaker 1: there's people who can who can get into this room
Speaker 1: and you say dope like like my a fiend, go
Speaker 1: go and recovery. Want somebody, want somebody you know what,
Speaker 1: somebody grew up in a cane or they might say,
Speaker 1: oh they might dig you fresh. But nigga is offensive.
Speaker 1: Like it's like like we go on only the only
Speaker 1: the other. Because I wasn't to say something to me
Speaker 1: to me, I went out to clip one day and
Speaker 1: I was with a person that it's half and half,
Speaker 1: but the way they were saying it in this restaurant,
Speaker 1: it was like I was offended even though I know
Speaker 1: that they have too, and I was just like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: can we keep this down like like like like when
Speaker 1: you like my nigga, I was and my nigga and
Speaker 1: like every other race ever study Have you ever study
Speaker 1: the word niggas n.
Speaker 5: E g u.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make out of it because I
Speaker 1: was at and yeah, I don't want to. Somebody was
Speaker 1: using it and I was like you, I'm like because
Speaker 1: I'm thinking they using it because I don't mean it.
Speaker 1: I know what it means in America. I know what
Speaker 1: it means to our grandmothers. I know what it means
Speaker 1: to our grand but I don't think that means that
Speaker 1: to us. I think it just means I see a
Speaker 1: cat like that nigga try to scratch me. I'm not
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Just means, man, just just I love
Speaker 1: this thing. And then I like, I like the growth
Speaker 1: respect because I do. I do respect you. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are cocky those people. We're gonna beat those people.
Speaker 1: Right Like the other day on the internet, it was
Speaker 1: this white Cuban guy talking about he's white of the kid.
Speaker 1: The kid white and he walked out and he was
Speaker 1: like yo. He was like yo, my nigga, my nigga.
Speaker 1: And the black dude just checked him, was like are
Speaker 1: you black like like and he was like no, but
Speaker 1: I'm Cuban and it was like yeah, but your persona
Speaker 1: doesn't indicate your Cuban. I see no Cuban bees. I
Speaker 1: thought you was just white and I just hug hooked
Speaker 1: off on you. It wouldn't have been wrong, right, So
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to get deep on this, but I just
Speaker 1: wanted to say that we was tormented by that world
Speaker 1: so much. I feel like we flipped it. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it don't bother us. Yeah, term of endement, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You'll get words power. You get words
Speaker 1: their power. We give words the power. Like like when
Speaker 1: I was in prison, all the god bodies turned into bloods,
Speaker 1: right I was around in that timebody was godbody around
Speaker 1: around ninety four ninety Bluddy Larry, they went, we went
Speaker 1: from god. They wanted to Larry. If you're calling your something,
Speaker 1: I'm the guard. I'm a dog. Like you just want
Speaker 1: to call yourselfing from a God to a dog, something
Speaker 1: that walks on that balls but anything else parton me. No, No,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, man, thanks to y'all. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Let me. I want to write
Speaker 1: that balls on wheels The Journey to Save Hip Hop
Speaker 1: the short filmed the album out there on all digital platforms,
Speaker 1: and I just want to salute you real quick, and
Speaker 1: to be too right on to me real quick. I
Speaker 1: want to salute you because I seen when you first
Speaker 1: started this and now everybody doing it. Everybody why? And
Speaker 1: also you know what you was up to it first?
Speaker 1: What is he doing? Now? You're one of the biggest platforms.
Speaker 1: You know what shut the tiger bone? You know, Tobe Kobe.
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