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Speaker 1: with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg Radio, and I'm Jeanie Schanzano

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Speaker 1: in for Kevin Sirelli and joining me is Bloomberg contributor

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Speaker 1: Rick Davis, And we were here. Carol just summarized listening

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Speaker 1: to President Biden discuss some of the very act you know,

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Speaker 1: let's just hear a little bit about what he had

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Speaker 1: to say. One factional favor runs hot when slender majorities

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Speaker 1: speaker have called for. Well, we have to get it done, Genie.

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Speaker 1: The American people are crying out for it. And what

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Speaker 1: So we'll have to keep working on it until we

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Speaker 1: get it right. Congressman levin this, Rick Davis, I thought

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Speaker 1: it was interesting that the Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell said

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Speaker 1: and that's that's his new guard rail. Uh. The last

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Speaker 1: have been uh. Arizona, I would like to ask you,

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Speaker 1: because we've been talking all day today about the coronavirus

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Speaker 1: um and and this one point nine trillion dollars that

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Speaker 1: process in the House of Representatives. But if you could

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Speaker 1: just uh take yourself out of the COVID for a moment,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of other priorities in Congress, infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: You've been a big advocate for medicare for all. If

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Speaker 1: if you've got a one pot nine trillion dollars for COVID,

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Speaker 1: those priorities, Well, for sure, Rick. So you know, this

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Speaker 1: got a climate change crisis, we've got a crisis of

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Speaker 1: deliver for the American people. And in fact, I think

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Speaker 1: ability of their government to deliver for them. So let's

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Speaker 1: get them a fifteen hour minimum wage. Let's rebuild the

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Speaker 1: roads and bridges and sewer systems for this country and

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Speaker 1: move on to building green infrastructure, mass employment of solar

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Speaker 1: good paying union jobs. That I mean, we just have

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Speaker 1: to do that or people are going to lose faith

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Speaker 1: in government altogether. So Representative eleven, yesterday we heard from

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Speaker 1: administration's decision in terms of Keystone. And you were just

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Speaker 1: all agree on that. What is the Democrats plan to

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Speaker 1: not only protect the environment but also to protect those jobs.

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Speaker 1: You know, unless we put the most affected workers, fossil

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Speaker 1: able to make this change. So we've got to involve

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Speaker 1: But here's the opportunity. My Electric Vehicle Freedom Act or

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Speaker 1: And the new Secretary of Energy is my colleague from Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Granholm. I used to work in her administration, but

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Speaker 1: U S. Highway system, not just the interstate. That would

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Speaker 1: create tens and hundreds of thousands of jobs for I

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Speaker 1: DW members, for union electricians, for utility workers. If you

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Speaker 1: you need a new substation there to handle all that juice.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be a tremendous job creating proposition

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Speaker 1: to tackle our energy crisis, and it's going to create

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Speaker 1: good jobs. We have to let workers form unions again

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Speaker 1: by passing the pro acts and let them take their

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Speaker 1: can do to bring the American dream back into view

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Speaker 1: for the workers of this country, because basically, for forty

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Speaker 1: they don't want to put up with it any longer.

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Speaker 1: And for one, I don't blame them. Congressman Brian D's,

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Speaker 1: who you know well, had actually headed up the Obama

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Speaker 1: administration's rescue efforts with the auto workers Michigan. Uh. Successfully

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Speaker 1: government intervention in private sector that worked out pretty well. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about whether or not we should be looking

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Speaker 1: issues around climate. You just talk very specifically about being

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Speaker 1: able to tackle the climate uh situation, being able to

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Speaker 1: Economic Council chair say maybe we maybe we should do

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Speaker 1: what Donald Trump did and use that term in government,

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Speaker 1: was a national emergency to go after our mitigation of

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Speaker 1: climate efforts. Well, I think any eighth grade science student

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Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of other species are

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Speaker 1: is an emergency that's going to be with us for years.

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Speaker 1: People who live in our cities on the coasts. People

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Speaker 1: who live in places where their wildfires and hurricanes are

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Speaker 1: and floods are going to be in greater and greater danger.

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Speaker 1: And we've got to tackle with this. You can call

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Speaker 1: massive proportions. But it's also a tremendous opportunity to create

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Speaker 1: new jobs. Look, are we America or not? Are we

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Speaker 1: the place of ingenuity and creativity or not? We are

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Speaker 1: we going to let the Chinese build all the solar

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Speaker 1: Let all the other countries eat our lunch. We need

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Speaker 1: an industrial policy to say, you know what, America is

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Speaker 1: going to lead the way to tackling this climate crisis.

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Speaker 1: We're going to create a lot of jobs here. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna make things here, and we're gonna export them around

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Speaker 1: the world and have a renaissance of American manufacturing by

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Speaker 1: dealing with climate change head on. So I'm I find

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Speaker 1: it's a big crisis, but I'm as a as a

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Speaker 1: Midwestern guy, I'm very excited about the prospect of it.

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Speaker 1: If we step up to the plate and tackle it

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Speaker 1: on the level that the moment requires, and representative Levin.

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Speaker 1: It has been such a pleasure to talk to you

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Speaker 1: here here to a renaissance of manufacturing. Hope to have

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Speaker 1: you back and talk to you again soon. I want

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Speaker 1: to thank my guest Representative Andy Levin of Michigan's ninth District,

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Speaker 1: Rick Davis of Bloomberg Politics, and Joe Crowley, former Congressman

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Speaker 1: from New York. I am Jeanie Schanzano in per Kevin Sorelli,

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Speaker 1: and this is Bloomberg