1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of I Heart Radio 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: and Grim and Mild from Aaron Minky. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: In the summer of I was sitting around a pleasant 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: dining table in a beautiful old home in Rhode Island, 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: watching a family reminisce about what it was like to 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: grow up there. They spoke of all the birthday parties 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: and holidays they had. They talked about where their rooms 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: were and where they put the Christmas tree every year. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: In that moment, the room was filled with laughter and joy, 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: and you would never look at these folks and think 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: anything traumatic had happened to them there. That was until 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: one of the women who spent her childhood in the 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: home softly touched my arm and whispered in my ear. 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you something, Yes, I replied, smiling. 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: She said, I forgot to tell you that every night 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I would go to bed and hear this in my ear, 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: seven soldiers in the wall, seven soldiers in the wall, 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: seven soldiers in the wall, seven soldiers in the wall. 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: She then proceeded to whisper a harsh stream of sounds 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: and gibberish in my ear that was absolutely terrifying. She 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: rocked back and looked at me with tears in her eyes. 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: At some point during this moment of merriment, this sweet 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: woman walked outside and got into the car and waited 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: for her family. She declared that this would be the 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: last time she would ever set foot in that house. 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm Amy Bruney and this is Haunted Road on six 27 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: seventy seven Roundtop Road in Burrowville, Rhode Island. There's a 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: plot of land that seems much too small to hold 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: all the contention and controversy surrounding it. Some folks refer 30 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: to the house as being in Harrisville, which is also correct. 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Harrisville is a small town known for its historic homes, 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: but it's part of the larger Burrowville. The house has 33 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: been called the Old Arnold Estate, the Sutcliffe House, the 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: Old Brook Farm, the Dexter Richardson House, the Harrisville farm House, 35 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: the Farm on Roundtop Road, and most notoriously, the Conjuring House. 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: People can't really settle on when the farm house came 37 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: into existence. Having personally been in the town Clerk's office 38 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: and after pulling the deeds myself, they go back incredibly far. 39 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: But it's not quite clear when the house in its 40 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: current form took shape. Some say seventeen thirty six, others 41 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: say eighteen thirty six. Having been in the home numerous 42 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: times in being pretty familiar with New England historic houses, 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: my best guess is sometime in the seventeen hundreds. But 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: the house fell into the hands of the parent family 45 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy. They purchased it, along with two hundred 46 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: acres from a gentleman named Mr Kenyon. Mr Kenyon had 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: lived in the home for two decades and had no 48 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: reason to warn the family of the incredible paranormal trauma 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: they were about to experience, because in his twenty years 50 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: there he never claimed to experience anything strange. Now, don't 51 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: let that dissuade you from what the parents claim to 52 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: have gone through. I've been on plenty of cases where 53 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: one family has nothing happened in a home, only to 54 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: have the next family move into a paranormal hotbed. I 55 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: firmly believe some people either bring that energy with them 56 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: or feed that sometimes long dormant energy into manifesting. The 57 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: parent family consisted of parents Caroline and Roger parent and 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: their children Andrea, Nancy, Christine Cindy and April. Andrea has 59 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: been the most willing to engage the public about the 60 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: family's experiences in the home, and has written three books 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: on the subject. I know Andrea personally, and she is 62 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: one of the most warm and incredible people you could meet. 63 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: She's very passionate about what on in that farm, and 64 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: she also has some pretty amazing UFO stories, but those 65 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: are for another day. The family claims that paranormal activity 66 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: began just minutes after arriving. At first, it was just 67 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: piles of dust or other things moving around on their own. 68 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: It escalated to terrible smells, mysterious failures of the heating system, 69 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: and objects thrown in glass shattered. They also reported that 70 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: their beds would shake every morning at five AM. That's 71 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: not an alarm clock, I want to wake up too. 72 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy three, the parents invited famed paranormal investigators 73 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Ed and Lorraine Warren into their home. Members of the 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: Catholic Church, Ed was a paranormal investigator and self taught demonologist, 75 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: and Lorraine professed to be a clairvoyant and light worker. 76 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Together they formed the New England Society for Psychic Research 77 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty two if you're wondering if the experiences 78 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: in the home or anything like the Conjuring film. When 79 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: being inner View to promote the film, Lorraine attested to 80 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: the clock stopping at three oh seven am, birds flying 81 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: into windows, and the family dog being found dead in 82 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: the yard after it refused to go inside the house. However, 83 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: the exorcism included in the film did not take place, 84 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: though Lorreene did hold a seance during which Caroline began 85 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: speaking in tongues, and along with the chair, she was 86 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: seated and floated into the air before being thrown. It 87 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: was at that point the Warrens were asked to leave, 88 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Andrea tells me there was even a bit of a 89 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: physical altercation between Ed and Roger following the seance as well. 90 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: The parents could simply not afford to leave the home, 91 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: so did not do so until nineteen eighty. In the meantime, 92 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the two acre lot was reduced to eight acres when 93 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: the parents were forced to sell land to pay for 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: flooding that occurred in their place of business. Eventually, Norma 95 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: and Jerry Sutcliffe purchased the home and it remained with 96 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: the Sutcliffs until twenty nineteen, though Jerry passed in seen. Initially, 97 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: Norma and Jerry claimed there were paranormal happenings in the house, 98 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: even calling in the TV show ghost Hunters, which I 99 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: used to be on, but this was before my time 100 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: to investigate. In two thousand five, they said they experienced 101 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: banging doors, voices chatting in the other room, footsteps leading 102 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: to the opening of a door, chairs that vibrated, a 103 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: fog inside the home, and once they saw a blue 104 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: light flash across their bedroom. But since the Conjuring movie 105 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: was released in ten, Norma has been dedicated to downplaying 106 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and denying any claims of the paranormal within the house. 107 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: It could be because of how disruptive the constant stream 108 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: of people driving by the home or trying to actually 109 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: break into the property became once the movie was released, 110 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: or some claim it's because the Sutcliffs never received any 111 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: compensation from the production of the film. None of the 112 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: filming happened on the property, by the way, all I 113 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: know is when we filmed an episode of Kindred Spirits 114 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: there in twenty nineteen, after Norma had sold the property 115 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: to the most recent owners, Norma showed up in the 116 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: driveway extremely upset. Still defensive of the home she had 117 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: sold months before, and before she had any knowledge of 118 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: who we were or how we operate. I'm sure she 119 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: has years of pent up frustration with all the court proceedings, 120 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: et cetera, and hopefully by now she has seen that 121 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: the current owners aren't about misinformation now. Despite whether or 122 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: not the Sutcliffs experienced anything paranormal in the home, Norma 123 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: did operate a daycare there for twenty years. I'd like 124 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: to think she wouldn't have done so if she thought 125 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: anything there was dangerous. Norma sold the home to Corey 126 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: and Jennifer Heinesen, paranormal investigators and friends of mine, who 127 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: we will be interviewing in a little bit. They bought 128 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: the home in the summer of twenty nineteen and immediately 129 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: began investigating. They've had a slew of activity since they 130 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: moved in, so much so that their teenage son is 131 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: reluctant to stay there alone. Before you decide to pop 132 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: by the home yourself, know that the Heinzen's have ad 133 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: on her more security cameras running on the property. Watching 134 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: those cameras really puts into perspective just how many people 135 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: drive by that house and how many people actually have 136 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: the audacity to walk onto the property or try the 137 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: front door. This is a residence, folks. The great news 138 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: is the Hinzens have the full confidence of the remaining 139 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: parent family members. We even brought them back to the 140 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: property for our episode of Kindred Spirits we filmed there. 141 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: It was surreal walking the grounds with them that first day. 142 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: But I'll never forget walking with Cindy, who I spoke 143 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: of in the intro to the show. She really seemed 144 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: to be the most affected. She was relating to me 145 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: some memories of them as children playing in the yard, 146 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: and I told her that my own daughter had been 147 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: there earlier in the day to visit on our lunch break, 148 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: and she had loved running around the grounds and exploring 149 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: the little maze of rooms inside the house. Cindy was 150 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: still looking in the distance when she mat her of 151 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: factly said that's wonderful, but this is no place for 152 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: children and walked away from me. After the break, let's 153 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: discuss who we think is haunting the farmhouse, and we'll 154 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: also dispel some historical myths long associated with the home, 155 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: and later on we'll talk to Corey and Jen Hinzen, 156 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: the current owners of the house and talk about a 157 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: new theory they have developed on who could be causing 158 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: the haunting. Now, as far as desk go at the house, 159 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: there are a few that have been documented. In nineteen 160 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: o one, a Jarvis Smith died of exposure on the property. 161 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: Jarvis had been tried and acquitted of a murder in 162 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: eighteen nine, which may or may not be relevant, but 163 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: was apparently his claim to fame. In nineteen o three, 164 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Edwin Arnold was walking home from an event back to 165 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: the house where he lived at the time, and decided 166 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: to take a short cut and disappeared. He disappeared on 167 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: October and was not found until Saturday, December seven, a 168 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: full seven weeks later. A hunter found the remains leaning 169 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: against a stone wall, as though he laid down to 170 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: rest and just never resumed his journey. There is a 171 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: claim that there are a lot of suicides nearby. While 172 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't have numbers of suicides versus population, I can 173 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: say that as I looked through newspapers trying to find 174 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: relevant occurrences nearby that could lead to a haunting, there 175 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: definitely were more articles about folks taking their own lives 176 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: than on any case I've researched enough that I mentioned 177 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: it to Adam. I was not aware this was something 178 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: that was brought up about the property at the time. 179 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: There is a little book called the Black Book that 180 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: records all sorts of unusual deaths in the area. Many 181 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: historical areas have these. That's also probably where the parents 182 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: and others got the idea for strange deaths nearby. Now, 183 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: Bathsheba Sherman. That's a name anyone who has seen the 184 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: original Conjuring movie is extremely familiar with. Unfortunately, just about 185 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: everything you've heard about her is completely untrue. Bathsheba was 186 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: the wife of a farmer whose land adjoined the original 187 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: plot of land that is now where the house sits. 188 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: We're not sure exactly how her name became mixed up 189 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: in the lore of the house. Originally, some say Lorraine 190 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: Warren said the name during her time investigating the house. 191 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: Others claim Caroline Parrin found the name in historic records somewhere. Regardless, 192 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: at some point in recent history, people began declaring that 193 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: Bathsheba had been a witch. They even went so far 194 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,359 Speaker 1: as to say that she murdered an infant. In reality, 195 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: Bathsheba died in eighty five and was buried beside her 196 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: first husband in a nearby cemetery. The burial was presided 197 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: over by a reverend, which is hardly something that would 198 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: have happened if she was an accused witch and child murderer. 199 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: Nowhere in history is her name associated with any of 200 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: the rumors about her. And I can tell you the 201 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: history of Burrowville is pretty well documented. I poured through 202 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: old newspapers myself. You couldn't even visit a neighbor up 203 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: the road without it being reported in the local paper. 204 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: To this day, the local historical society has fought against 205 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: this misinformation about Bathsheba. Her gravestone has been desecrated and 206 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: knocked over so many times they have now removed it 207 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: and put it in a safe location. Even Andrea Parent 208 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: has declared that the information passed around about Sherman is 209 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: completely inaccurate, yet the damage has been done. It's the 210 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: perfect example of why in the world of paranormal investigation, 211 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: you've got to get your historical facts as straight as 212 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: you can. Ghosts may be hard to prove the existence of, 213 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: but history is not now, believe it or not, This 214 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: was actually a very high level overview of the history 215 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: of the farmhouse. I think it's best if we have 216 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: a little chat with the new owners and get an 217 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: idea of the activity level there. Now, coming up, we'll 218 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: talk to Corey and jen Hinzen parent them investigators, friends 219 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: of mine and the most recent owners of the farm. Alright, 220 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: so I am now joined by Corey and Jennifer Heinzen, 221 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: who are the very brave couple who actually purchased the farmhouse, 222 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: and they're here to tell us their story and tell 223 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: us what's going on there now. So welcome guys, Thank 224 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: you for having us, Thank you for having us. Full disclosure. 225 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: When we were setting up this interview, we had to 226 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: reschedule at a number of times because something was always 227 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: going wrong. And I told Corey I blamed the house, 228 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: and he said, everyone blames the house. They do. It 229 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: seems to be the default answer. So I mean it 230 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: makes sense, I guess. I mean, if I lived in 231 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: the do you guys call it the farmhouse, the conjuring house? 232 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: What do you refer to it as whatever? We won't 233 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: get sued before. I guess we usually just refer to 234 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: it as the farm, the farm. Okay, Well, I feel 235 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: like if I had bought the farm, I too would 236 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: just blame everything on it. I think you haven't out 237 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: for life at this point. So true, very true. So 238 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: can you just kind of tell us how you came 239 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: to own the house and why would you buy such 240 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: a place? Honestly, it was a Facebook post at like 241 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning that I came across. It 242 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: was in a random uh I t C group that 243 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: I was a member of at the time, and it 244 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: was the first post in a while, and I was 245 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: just like, well, that's kind of funny. And we had 246 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: friends down in this area that actually knew the owner 247 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: and got us in touch with the realtor, and the 248 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: realtor said, yes, in fact, she was going to be 249 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: putting it up for sale, and she didn't want to 250 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: put it on the market because there were certain people 251 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: that she didn't want to have bidding on it and 252 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So they actually had us sit down 253 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: with her. We were sitting down with the owner before 254 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: we were even sitting down with the realtor and getting 255 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: tours of the house and stuff, and basically it was 256 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: like for sale by owner, if you will. That's interesting, 257 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: And so what was the talk like between you two 258 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: when you made this decision to buy the house. What 259 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: have your plans been for it? We planned to move in. 260 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean it was like kind of a family decision. 261 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: We were going to move in. It would have been 262 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: Jen and I and our son Tyler. He would have 263 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: been starting his junior year of high school. Yeah, Maddie 264 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: was in Maine in college. You know. He thought he 265 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: would be like the king of the high school. Yeah, 266 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: the cool kid. Yeah, the cool kid. And he ended 267 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: up having an incident, and it just I guess I 268 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: kind of overlooked it because him being an investigator with us. Yeah, 269 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: he'd been doing it for a long time. It's not 270 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: like none of this was brand new to him. Yeah, 271 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: but I guess being totally immersed and it would be 272 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: a different story. Yeah, And he just kind of tapped 273 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: out and he's like, I can't do it, and injury 274 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: gave him a walk through the house is well, And 275 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I think watching the emotion on her face and everything 276 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: that she went through tapped into the reality of living 277 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: here would be totally different than investigating a location, right, 278 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: that makes sense. It's one thing to go into a place, 279 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, for a night or two and investigate, but 280 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: she gets to leave doing nothing follows you home, but 281 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's totally different to kind of move into 282 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: one of the most notoriously haunted homes in the world, really, 283 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: and so I could see that being tough. So is 284 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: he going back and forth between Maine or is he's 285 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: living there now or he's still up in Maine. It 286 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: took him a long time before he'd come back here, 287 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: and then when he finally did come back, he would 288 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: travel here and there, not as much as we did. 289 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: But then once COVID hit, it was too hard for 290 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: him to travel with other regulations and work in school, 291 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and so he's not here as often as we are. 292 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: But I think he kind of likes it that way. 293 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: I think he's okay with that. So what was the 294 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: breaking point for him? What happened to him? He um, 295 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: we were sleeping in one of the rooms. We slept 296 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: in two main rooms for like the first four months 297 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: that we were down here, kind of getting a field 298 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: for the place and letting the spirits get used to us. 299 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: Everybody thinks we're crazy, but that's just how we did it. 300 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: And he was sleeping in the room with us, sleeping 301 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: in between Jen and I, and he said he heard 302 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: footsteps coming down the stairway, and he said he ended 303 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: up seeing this black mist, and like the way he 304 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: described it, I know for a fact he saw it 305 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: because my friend and I witnessed the same thing a 306 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: few weeks prior, and he didn't mention it to us 307 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: until later on. Yeah. It was the weekend of the 308 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: para con here on Rhode Island and he was supposed 309 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: to be here with us for the entire weekend. And 310 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: after the first night he left before his sister was 311 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: driving from New York back up towards Maine, and he 312 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: asked her to stop in and pick him up and 313 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: bring him back up to Maine with her. So we 314 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: didn't really know why. He just kind of said he 315 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: was ready to go home. He didn't tell us why. Yeah, 316 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: oh that's right. Yeah, I remember that weekend because I 317 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: think that's when you first came up to me and 318 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: you were like, guess what we did. Yeah, it was 319 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: still new to us. We've only been here for a 320 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Three weeks, three weeks. Yeah, So Andrea 321 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: was here that weekend as well, and she's the one 322 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: that walked him through the house. I think everything just 323 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: hit him all at once that weekend and seeing visually 324 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: seeing that black mass himself, was that was it for him? Well? 325 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: I also think that for our episode of Kindred, we 326 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: brought the parents back into the house as many of 327 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: them as we could, you know, some of them had 328 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: passed on, and it was it really did something to 329 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the energy in the house. And so I could almost 330 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: see having Andrea back for the first time and so 331 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: long could have definitely caused a shift that would, you know, 332 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: kind of wake something up. Do you think that probably 333 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: was part of it? I think it was part of it. Yeah, Okay, Well, 334 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: so what's going on in the house currently, what's the 335 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: activity level? Like, I mean, the teams that have been 336 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: coming in have been getting some extraordinary stuff. For us, 337 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: it's just it's normal stuff. It's like, if you see it, 338 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: you see it. If not, you don't. You know, the 339 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: teams event just getting some phenomenal catches. But for us, 340 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: like I think the last time we had something happens 341 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: when the door opened as we were watching TV. We 342 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: just had and watched it open. It's like, if you 343 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: want to come in watch TV, come and watch me. 344 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: That's fine. It's just you know, it's it is what 345 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: it is. You just kind of get used to it. 346 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: So you guys, basically at this point, do you teams 347 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: rented out for the night or how do you work 348 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: that you have a lot of investigators coming in and out. 349 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: I see them posting quite often. Yet we were doing 350 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: overnight investigations where we do allow teams to come in 351 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: as a group and investigate overnight. We have a lot 352 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: of people reaching out trying to do day tours, but 353 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: we COVID it's so hard to regulate. Like the teams 354 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: that come in at night, they booked together, they stay together, 355 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: they already know each other, they've already been exposed to 356 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: each other, so that no strangers are being next. But 357 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: most weekends we have people here they are investigating and 358 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: yeah we just knew Friday, Saturday and Sundays. Yeah, that 359 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: makes sense. And do you kind of give them a 360 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: little rundown beforehand of things that are off limits or 361 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: do you feel like everyone's been mostly respectful? Oh? Absolutely, 362 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: you know. We we tell them, you know, treat our 363 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: house as you'd want your house treated, because regardless of 364 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: what you think, we we have to deal with the 365 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: consequences of whatever you do during your time here. So 366 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: no seances, no trying to cross over. Spirits and stuff 367 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: like that can't come in here under the influence of 368 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: alcohol and drugs, and we do keep an eye on 369 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: them with the cameras and stuff like that. If we 370 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: see something stupid going on, which surprisal we never have 371 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: would put the nicks on that real quick. So I mean, 372 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: ultimately you're the one that has to live with whatever 373 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: happens there. Overall, the paranormal community has kind of made 374 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: a shift in the last few years to being a 375 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: lot more respectful. I know when I first started investigating, 376 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: and Corey you know too, because Coria a long time 377 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: ago help me with events up in New Hampshire, and 378 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: you can attest to you know, when people investigate for 379 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: the first time or they get into groups, they get 380 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: very excited and sometimes they have this inclination to start 381 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: provoking and getting rough to get spirits agitated. Have you 382 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: had any indication and all these investigations going on, have 383 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: you had any indication or clues as to who you 384 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: think is haunting the farm? Oh? God, we still don't. 385 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Like we still get multiple names. I mean, I guess 386 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: we could say we we know for sure that there's 387 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: at least a man. Yeah, there's a man that he's 388 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: very very prevalent when we have all female teams here, 389 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: and from what some of the psychics on the teams 390 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: have described him as is like a just a giant 391 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: man like Quaker outfit, and he gives the all female 392 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: teams a hard time kind of like because he's very 393 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: very proper, like where's the men? Why am I talking 394 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: to females kind of thing, And that's really the only 395 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: one we've really noticed. Yeah, I mean, I'm eager to 396 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: kind of get back there at some point because I know, 397 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, we kind of finished up our investigation with Kindred. 398 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: I felt went really well. I felt like we've provided 399 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: a lot of closure for the parents, which was pretty great. 400 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: But I always go back to, like I think of 401 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Edwin Arnold a lot, just because he was walking home 402 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: to his family and then died and it wasn't found 403 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: for weeks, and that to me is like that's kind 404 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: of a classic spirit. I feel like that would come 405 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: back to the house like never made it home, was 406 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: found seven weeks later, leaning up against the fence, like 407 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: he just kind of sat down to rest and didn't 408 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: wake up. I just I don't know, there's something about 409 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: that death to me, that resonates and I'm so curious 410 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: if it's him. No, I mean it most definitely could be. 411 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, circumstances like that, that's what you 412 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: look for. There's all with the Crooked Neck woman. A 413 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: lot of people have said it was Susan Arnold, but 414 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: it's the wrong Susan Arnold, because there was a John 415 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: and Susan Arnold that lived here, and then there's a 416 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: John and Susan Arnold lived in Uxbridge. She was the 417 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: one that hung herself. She gets associated with the property, 418 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Crooked Neck and stuff like that. Well, there's actually something 419 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: came out recently in the news that there was a 420 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: giant that had been on earth near this property, and 421 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying that's actually what it 422 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: is that we're seeing is just a giant person trying 423 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: to fit through the hallways of this house. That is 424 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: so interesting. I had no idea you're gonna have to 425 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: send me that info because that makes complete sense. Yeah, 426 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: because when we were investigating for Kindred and you guys 427 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: pointed out to us too, like so the previous owner 428 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: had a daycare center in the holm for twenty years, 429 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: which I'd like to think if she thought it was dangerous, 430 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: she probably wouldn't have done that. But we found these 431 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: drawings that the kids drew of an actual woman or 432 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: person with their neck crooked, and it reminded me so 433 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: much of the Haunting of Hill House, you know, and 434 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: it was really bizarre. And it's just these multiple drawings 435 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: of this kind of crooked neck person, which is so strange. 436 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: It's interesting. No, it's definitely makes you scratch your head. Yeah, 437 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: you're like, where who draws that? Especially? This was pree 438 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: Haunting of Hill House. Obviously this was years ago. So 439 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: what do you think has been the craziest experience you 440 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: guys have had since you purchased the house? I would 441 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: probably say still to the day. Is the shadow figure 442 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: that we saw, So that's the one that you had 443 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: seen before your son saw the miss. I think he 444 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: saw the miss first. Well, that was probably a few 445 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: weeks before. Like this was like a full bodied shadow figure, 446 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: like well defined, and Jen and I saw both at 447 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: the same time, which made it even more awesome because 448 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: usually like it's a personal experience because we didn't catch 449 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: it on camera. Was this during an investigation or was 450 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: this just in the middle of the day or when 451 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: did this happen? It was actually at night. We're both 452 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: sleeping on the same cot for some reason, I don't 453 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: know why, but she was restless. She woke me up, 454 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: just moving around and I woke up and it was 455 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: actually I think it was the first night that we 456 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: had left the door open into the adjoining room. Yes, 457 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: it was the first night that we left the door open. 458 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: And because for some reason we would think, you know, 459 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: closing the door, we keep ghosts out closing and locking it. Yeah, 460 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: it's just like when you as long as your feet 461 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: and hands are under the blanket, nothing bad can happen 462 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: to you, exactly. But I woke up and I just 463 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: see this thing looking around the corner of the doorway 464 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: looking at us. And I didn't freak out because I 465 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: had seen shadow figures before, but just not as well 466 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: defined as this. And I'm like, okay, i know what 467 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: i'm seeing. I know I'm awake, and I'm not saying anything. 468 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: And then Jen was the one that's like, tell me 469 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: you're seeing this, and she said it out loud, and 470 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: as she talked, it scurried out of the way real fast, 471 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, that was a shadow figure and 472 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: we just high fived each other, were like, that was 473 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: so awesome. It wasn't like we were freaking out or 474 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: it was upset and we didn't catch it on camera, right, 475 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: but it was still cool that we both started at 476 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: the same time. You guys are definitely paranormal investigators because 477 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: most people would have run screaming from the home and 478 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: would never return. I love ire. Like we high fived. 479 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: It was cool. We went back to sleep. It was great. 480 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: That was nice. I mean it, honest to God, just 481 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: didn't give us like a scary feeling. It didn't the 482 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: house doesn't give us a bad vibe. Yeah, having been 483 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 1: in their multiple days, I definitely do not get a 484 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: bad vibe from the house until I get into the basement. 485 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: Like there's just a very different feeling down there. And 486 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just because it really is 487 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: like a textbook spooky New England basement or if there 488 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: is actually something else down there. How do you guys 489 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: feel about the basement. It's been weird, like it's hit 490 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: or miss. Sometimes sometimes you'll go down there and like, 491 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: I won't feel anything. Then sometimes you go down it's 492 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of a heavy feeling but still at 493 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: the same time, it's not the typical heavy feeling you 494 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: would associate with something that's malevolent or something, you know, 495 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. It's just, you know, there's something there. 496 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: You're kind of tapping into that sensitivity thing, and it's 497 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: still it's making you aware that it's there. And it's like, 498 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: we just started upkeep of the house maintenance. Thank you 499 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: and everything that we've done. Everybody that was here working 500 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: with us, I was like, look, before you swing a hammer, 501 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: before you do anything, you explain to these spirits what 502 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: you're doing. I don't care how stupid you feel. That's 503 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: just being respectful. And we haven't had no problems. I'm 504 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: sure those contractors are like, this is new, this is 505 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: a new instruction. But you know, actually, I've never heard 506 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: of someone kind of instructing people beforehand to kind of 507 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: like talk the spirits through a renovation or and I 508 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: think that might be a good idea for people who 509 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: think their house might be on it, like actually show 510 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: them what you're doing and why, because that tends to 511 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: really stir up activities. So I bet you guys were 512 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: concerned about that, right, Oh, absolutely. I mean a lot 513 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: of the residential cases I dealt with, Like back when 514 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: I was on a team, it was always seemed to 515 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: revolve around renovations and things like that. So it was like, 516 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: just let them know we're doing this because you know, 517 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: the house has been here almost three hundred years. We 518 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: wanted here for another three hundred years. It's just fixing 519 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: it up a bit. You know, we're not making any changes, 520 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: just reinforce and stuff. I mean, it's a beautiful house 521 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: and the property is beautiful, and like, obviously I felt safe. 522 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: I brought my daughter there when we were filming. You know, 523 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: one of the nice things when we're local because I 524 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: live in Rhode Island, is that I can bring the 525 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: babysitter and my daughter out for dinner or something for 526 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: our dinner break. And so Charlotte loved it, Like I remember, 527 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: I have a picture of her just running on the 528 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: lawn and she felt very comfortable there and very safe. 529 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: And so it's just so interesting that you have this 530 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: house with this kind of crazy reputation, but then you 531 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: can sit there on the porch in the summer and 532 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: just feel completely at ease. Have you had any people 533 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: come in who felt otherwise, like any of the teams 534 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: or anything. Has anybody had to leave or anybody felt 535 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: like something bad happened to them there. Yeah, we've had 536 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: multiple teams that can't stay overnight. The majority of them 537 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: that can't stay are psychic mediums that feel like they're 538 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: personally being attacked or targeted. Targeted, I should say, not 539 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: necessarily attacked, because nobody's ever I don't believe anybody's ever 540 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: felt attacked, but they feel like whatever is here knows 541 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: that their psychic mediums and they're just being picked on. 542 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people come here just too 543 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with the movie Yeah, and they're like, oh my god, 544 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, we're walking into walking into hell. And we 545 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: explained to him it's not that at all. I'm like, 546 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: it's a classic haunting. It's intelligent. You know. You treat 547 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: them with respect and you're going to get the same 548 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: in return. We haven't had anything say otherwise, right, although 549 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: at the same time, we've had multiple people tell us 550 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: to be aware that it's drawing us in, it's making 551 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: us feel comfortable, So we always have that in the 552 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: back of our mind. We know enough paranormal people that 553 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: we do have people that look out for us, that 554 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: watch our movements that watch our body language. That can 555 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, tell if we're acting funny. Yeah, I wonder 556 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: if whatever is there maybe has a distrust for mediums 557 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: or something, just because I mean, Lorraine Warren was really 558 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of the catalyst for the whole Bathsheba Sherman story beginning. However, 559 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: well meaning they may have been or wherever that came from. 560 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: You know, I don't ever want to say that someone 561 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: did something purposefully. I don't think anybody spread that story 562 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: on purpose, you know, in a negative way, But it happened, 563 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: and I won or if they are very aware of 564 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: everything that went on in the house kind of with 565 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: Edan Lorraine. And so now when someone comes in and 566 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: says their psychic, the energy there automatically kind of recoils 567 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: or goes on guard kind of do you think that 568 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: could be a possibility. It could definitely be a possibility. 569 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is the whole reason we're here 570 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: is because and Lorraine Warren we're here. Something definitely did 571 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: happen here. You had Pyro, which was Keith and Carl 572 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: Johnson's team. They called in the Warrens. The Warrens came in, 573 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: they witnessed things and for us to sit there and say, well, 574 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't believe that happened. That's kind of foolish because 575 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: unless you have there to personally experience something, how can 576 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: you tell somebody what their experience. And I saw it 577 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: in the parents eyes when they came with the show 578 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: with Kindred, they went through something absolutely like, I definitely think, 579 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, something definitely happened there. I felt like Cindy 580 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: in particular, was having this kind of throwback moment when 581 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: she was there where she was shaking. She didn't even 582 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: like she couldn't wait to get out of here. She 583 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: ended up just going and waiting in the car and 584 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: was like, I'm done never coming back here. So I 585 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: think that there was definitely something there happening. And I 586 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: wonder if the parents energy. They have a really great 587 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: energy about them, especially Andrew, Like she walks in the 588 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: room and you can just feel her presence. There's a 589 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: reason why that woman everywhere she goes people just end 590 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: up hugging her and confiding every bit of their being 591 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: to her, Like she's just this very warm energy. There's 592 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: something about her and them, you know. Obviously like Bathsheba 593 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: was not in that house, and I think that was 594 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: the biggest story that came from that, regardless of what happened. 595 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 1: And so I'm just wondering if maybe the spirits are 596 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: kind of weird. I can't imagine what the energy was 597 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: like in the house, like you have the parents and 598 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: the warrants together. I wish I could be a fly 599 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: on the wall of what that was like. Like that 600 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: is like a perfect storm of energy, you know, and 601 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: then whatever spirits are, they're reacting like that must have 602 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: just been the most tumultuous moment for that house. I 603 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: could see the house almost being scarred from it. If 604 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, no, it makes sense too. It's 605 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: interesting to look back and look at the different dynamics 606 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: and look at the different situations and what we know 607 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: now compared to what we knew then, and and I 608 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: think that's one of the greatest things you guys are doing, 609 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: is that you're saying the house has spirits, that it 610 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: is haunted, and you're very cautious about it, but you're 611 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: also working hard to kind of figure out why, getting 612 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: the history right and everything. And I know the Historical 613 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: Society watched the episode with us at the home and 614 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: they were really thrilled. And I think that is such 615 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: an important message for the field in general, Like just 616 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: because you're correcting history doesn't mean a place isn't haunted. 617 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: It's important to at least get that part right as 618 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: much as we can. And I think we're so lucky 619 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: right now too, because we have so many resources that 620 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: I know, when I first started investigating, we did not have. 621 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: I remember just going into the town clerk's office in 622 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: your town and just going back through those deeds all 623 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: the way to where I couldn't even read them anymore 624 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: because they were like old English cursive. Yes, we've seen that, 625 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: and I have a hard time deciphering. Yeah. So that's 626 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: a great message, and I think it's really awesome of 627 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: you guys to open the house up the way you have. 628 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: I feel like some people might look at that like 629 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: you're trying to make up business out of it or something, 630 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: but I think that there's a way to do it respectfully. 631 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: And so how how are you guys kind of navigating that? 632 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: It's really hard because if you want to consider it 633 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: like supply and demand, especially with the new movie coming out, 634 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: people like I don't really say demanding dates, but we're 635 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: just always constantly getting emails it's like wanting to book this, 636 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: wanting the book, that people wanting to have weddings here, 637 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: and it's like, uh, definitely, don't want to turn it 638 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: into a circus. And that's what we've said from day one. 639 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: And we love that there are so many people interested 640 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: in it, but it honestly has been really hard to 641 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: try and navigate the two to be able to let 642 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: people in and the right people in and the people 643 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: that want to be here for the right reasons, and 644 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: to not go overboard and be like, Okay, this is 645 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: way too overwhelming. Yeah, I mean, I said earlier before 646 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I started interview, you guys kind of reminded the audience 647 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: that it's a residence. It's a house, people live there. 648 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: You know. When I was there, you guys have multiple 649 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: security cameras up, and I remember on breaks we would 650 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: just sit and just watch car after car just pull 651 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: up and people almost feeling like they have every right 652 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: to just walk up to your door. I mean, I 653 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: know that our crew had to stop multiple people, and 654 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: it's so strange to me, like that people actually feel 655 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: like they can just roll on up. And I think 656 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: actually at one point I just walked right in and 657 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: we were like, Hi, we're working here and this is 658 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: a house, but it has that reputation. What is that like? 659 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: Living around that? Most days aren't too too bad. I 660 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: feel like most people have been pretty respectful, but we 661 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: definitely find from right now until fall time is the 662 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: worst and people. I don't know why, but for the 663 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: last probably two three weeks, maybe it's because the trailer 664 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: for the new movie, people are pulling onto the property 665 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: all the time. Now, last night we had somebody pull 666 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: into the end of the driveway at what twelve thirty 667 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: this morning, and they were parked out there for like 668 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: a good fifteen minutes before Corey went out there. Last 669 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: night was the first time it felt like an evasion. 670 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: Who just does that on somebody's property in the middle 671 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: of the night. Yeah, that's bold. So I'll just once 672 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: again spread that message to the audience that this is 673 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: a house and you can contact their website and book 674 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: like everyone else if you wanted to take a chance 675 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: with that. Do you guys have to ever call the 676 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: police or anything? I feel like you must have them 677 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: on speed dial. Yeah I haven't yet. Is That's one 678 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: thing that Jen and I agreed upon was we knew 679 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: what we were getting ourselves into as far as having 680 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: to deal with that sort of element. But at the 681 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: same time, it's like, if we've given them access, if 682 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: they go through the proper channels, which with the previous 683 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: owner that was never an option. But if we've given 684 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: them that option, as long as they go through the 685 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: profit channels, it's like, hopefully it will cut it down, 686 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: and then we'll cut it down. We understand there's always 687 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: going to be that element we have to deal with, 688 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: but as long as that remaining respectful and stuff like that. 689 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: But like last night, there was no need of like 690 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: what transpired last night, I mean that kind of got 691 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: out of hand. Yeah, they then threw something at Corey. 692 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: We thought it was water, but I think it might 693 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: have been a red bull. Yeah, it was a red 694 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: bull or something like that. It's like, seriously, is this 695 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: what it's come? You know, they're dressed up like ninjas. 696 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fighting out here with like five ninjas 697 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: in a car. And if you hadn't gone out there, 698 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: what was their plan or they going to get out 699 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: of the car and try to get in the house. 700 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: You know, that's most of the time, I'm sure it's 701 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: pretty relaxing and chill, but there's got to always be 702 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: that kind of little bit in your mind where you're like, 703 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: anyone could just roll up here. Everyone knows where this 704 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: house is, especially locally, everyone knows where the house is, 705 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: you know. I feel like I constantly see stories about 706 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: the house, and you guys are very generous with your 707 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: time and with the information and with opening the doors, 708 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: So I think you're right. Hopefully over time it will 709 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: kind of peter out and people will realize that they 710 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: can have access in some way. Now that being said, 711 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: if people do want to visit the house or get 712 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: in touch with you guys, what can they do? They 713 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: can visit our website which is the Conjuring House dot com. 714 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: I know it's very original, or on Facebook page which 715 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: is the Farm on Round Top Road because the Conjuring 716 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: House was taken well. As always, it's a pleasure talking 717 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: to you guys. I'm hoping to see you in person 718 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: again soon since things seem to be kind of improving 719 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: and I'm vaccinated, I'm ready to take on the world. 720 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: So you guys are welcome any time. Yeah, we would 721 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: love that. Well, thank you so much, and again, anyone 722 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: who is interested in the barn please go check out 723 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: their website and their Facebook. And these are two very 724 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: lovely people who also happen to be paranormal investigators. And 725 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: I think of, you know, whenever I say what I 726 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: do for a living at like a dinner party or something, 727 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: how everyone asks me so many questions. But I think 728 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: you guys might one up me on that. I feel 729 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: like the second you tell people you own the Conjuring House, 730 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: like that's it. Some people don't. I love it all right. Well, 731 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: thank you so much, guys, and I hope to visit soon. 732 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for having to me. The farm stands as 733 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: one of the most iconic paranormal locations in the world. 734 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: The lore, legends, and ghost stories surrounding it cannot be 735 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: denied and will forever be associated with that property. It's 736 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: also a place that has taught us so many lessons 737 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: in the paranormal field. It's shown us what happens when 738 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: a haunt becomes commercialized and sensationalized, and what happens when 739 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: the history is reported incorrectly. It's pretty clear how that 740 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: has affected the living who are associated with the farm, 741 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: but let's not forget how it affects the dead as well. 742 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: Not just their spirits, but their memory. I'll be watching 743 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: and probably investigating that house as the years go by, 744 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: and while I think it's in very good hands at 745 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: the moment, I'm incredibly interested to see how the activity evolves. 746 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: I very strongly believe haunt responds directly to the living 747 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: who surround it, and I think we're just a few 748 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: chapters in what's going to be quite the story of 749 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: the farm on round Top Road. I'm Amy Bruney, and 750 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: this was Haunted Road. Haunted Road is a production of 751 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Mankey. 752 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: The podcast is written and hosted by Amy Bruney. Executive 753 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: producers include Aaron Mankey, Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. The 754 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: show is produced by rema Ill Kali and Trevor Young. 755 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: Taylor Haggerdorn is the show's researcher. For more podcasts from 756 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 757 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.