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Speaker 1: first segment, but let's get you ready for the NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals throughout the show. But also let's talk about what

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Speaker 1: the Suns done. Okay, so two different stories in one.

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Speaker 1: The Sons hired Jordan Ought and it looks like they're

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Speaker 1: going to trade, Kevin Durant, So why does this all

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Speaker 1: make sense? First, Kevin Rant, I mean you have topped

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Speaker 1: fell short in the playoffs, and again, part of that

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Speaker 1: is the NIXT story. And I think one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons that Knicks made their change was in their mind

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Speaker 1: So you're not exactly matching up with the best of

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Speaker 1: but that's the philosophy. Ott used to work for Michigan

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Speaker 1: how we try and make things about what they're not about,

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Speaker 1: Which is why you know Karl, Anthony Towns and Jalen

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Speaker 1: they were Leon Rose clients. And so when Leon Rose

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson. So when things go bad with Carl Towns

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Speaker 1: For aut he now has the relationship, and because he's

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Speaker 1: reforming the Phoenix Suns. You know, I was told a

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Speaker 1: But could you have picked him out of a lineup? No,

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Speaker 1: Let me get to the NBA Finals, So team minus

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Speaker 1: I don't love this guy's got to get this many

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Speaker 1: upon how these two teams are built, they have multiple scores, weapons,

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Speaker 1: That's what happens in business. If somebody is successful, then

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Speaker 1: they copy what somebody has done to be successful, right.

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Speaker 1: And there'll be some people that copy that. That's how

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Speaker 1: Pacers win this thing, not because I don't. I think

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Speaker 1: the Thunder will win it. I think the Thunder are better,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are single handedly responsible for his research.

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Speaker 6: He's exercised his demon. And then last night was the

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Speaker 6: night that Tanner Scott exercised his demon. And by exercise demon,

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Speaker 6: got the win. Last night, we're or the save. I

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Speaker 6: don't know Tanner picked it up. But could we pay

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So the group text is Isaac, Sam, Doug and me.

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Speaker 6: Before the show, I threw out the idea for the midway.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm going to ask you, Doug, just give me

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Speaker 6: your honest answer. Don't google it, don't look it up.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what no s ferratu is, Isaac?

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Speaker 6: I just thought It was that part in a group

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Speaker 6: As per Adam Silver saying this on Breakfast Ball today.

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Speaker 6: And Sam goes to the group text and says, nos ferrutu,

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Speaker 5: have you ever heard of nos Faratu?

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Speaker 5: All right, it was lost on you, guys. I just

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Speaker 6: He back for Brad Stevens. Man, you have to listen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you're thinking of Uncle Fester. Well, Lurch had hair.

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Speaker 7: It is clear that Adam Silver might need some more

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Speaker 7: He might need to take a Vitamin C supplement is

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Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, he might need some zinc and some protein.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, right, I'll just take your word for it.

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Speaker 5: But okay, Yeah, and you know, Adam Silver Silver probably

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's so. We're just we're just cracking. Why is

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Speaker 5: The original is not obscure. It's a pretty well known

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Speaker 1: I am because you're saying you basically said, we're a

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Speaker 5: And Mike is sending us a text where someone compares

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Speaker 8: Mike.

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Speaker 1: Of course he is, because he's the one who's You're

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Speaker 8: It's time for the.

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Speaker 6: Two people in the world refer to him as nose Faratu,

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Speaker 9: Nobody would Those would be storied franchises. People wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: That part is fair. That part is fair, and I

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Speaker 6: So your answer is no, the NBA Finals could never

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Speaker 5: No, No, I think it's in the summer.

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Speaker 5: Yep, it's not a single day. No, it's not on

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I there was a world there where

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Speaker 7: Should lou Hols just take over your body for a

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Speaker 7: second there, I'm sorry, No, I just.

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Speaker 1: Had a yawn and I'm not tired. I apologize. Chase

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Speaker 5: You just got the green light to do a lou

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Speaker 7: Hey, you know, I'm sorry guys.

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Speaker 1: And super Bowl, but you did you know you take

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Speaker 1: Dame and you make me Oh that's cub I'll.

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Speaker 6: Just quote somebody that we all are very intimately aware of.

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Speaker 6: My man, if you're followed to sleep in the year,

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Speaker 7: No, he was Hols. Hey, here's what what you actually

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Speaker 7: In a good way for compare and purposes. What previous

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Speaker 7: the Bengo That's exactly where I was going. That kind

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Speaker 7: It was Game six of the Bulls Utah Jazz Series

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Speaker 7: And the last dance sure.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, it was. It was They knew it was

435
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Speaker 7: the last dance at the time or at the very

436
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Speaker 7: least it was most likely the last dance.

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Speaker 1: Most likely, but you know, I don't I don't remember

438
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Speaker 1: tuning into that finals going like this is the last

439
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Speaker 1: time I'm going to see you. You know again. Most

440
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Speaker 1: people thought it was likely, but we didn't know.

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Speaker 7: So what parameters would be needed to give the best

442
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Speaker 7: possible shot of the NBA rivaling the Super Bowl hype?

443
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Speaker 7: It would be a great compelling superstar on each team,

444
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Speaker 7: a great compelling story haven't won it in fifty years

445
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 7: like the Knicks, a raucous home crowd. Maybe that's maybe

446
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 7: that's not as important, but you're looking at you're looking

447
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Speaker 7: at basically two things, superstars and storylines.

448
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Speaker 6: I just think I think it's a complete fools errand

449
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Speaker 6: to ever, if you're a commissioner of a sport compare

450
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Speaker 6: yourself to the NFL. The way the NFL resonates with

451
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Speaker 6: Americans will never be matched. And if I think it

452
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Speaker 6: was wish at him to go to the comparison, because

453
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Speaker 6: now talk radio is making the comparison, and I would

454
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Speaker 6: say ten out of ten talk radio hosts and analysts

455
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Speaker 6: are saying it'll never become the super Bowl. People love

456
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Speaker 6: gambling on football. Wives love sitting with their husbands and

457
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Speaker 6: watching football. There just are there are little things that

458
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Speaker 6: this intangible things that will never be able to grasp

459
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Speaker 6: for why this sport is so popular and the NBA

460
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Speaker 6: is woefully in second place in that And.

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Speaker 7: Would you guys feel that perhaps you could even make

462
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Speaker 7: the argument that NBA All Star Weekend is a closer

463
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Speaker 7: super Bowl esque vibe than the NBA Finals are, not

464
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Speaker 7: in terms of TV ratings, but as a destination, almost

465
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Speaker 7: like an event, a convention and an event. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if this has been brought up yet.

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Speaker 5: I apologize if it has. But also Adam Silver talked

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Speaker 5: about quote unquote small markets like Pittsburgh Green Bay. Uh,

469
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Speaker 5: those two franchises in the NFL have a combined like

470
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Speaker 5: how many championships between them? And said so that oh

471
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Speaker 5: you did, okay, I must have been xated on. A

472
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Speaker 5: commissioner knows, we'll clean it up.

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't the one that I wasn't the one

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Speaker 1: who was sleeping.

475
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Speaker 2: I was.

476
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Speaker 5: I wasn't sleeping.

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Speaker 8: I was.

478
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Speaker 5: I was so excited.

479
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Speaker 8: And Adam sober he's been I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I'll do a twick man cope on nos fat.

481
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Speaker 1: One hundred and one million dollars is nothing to uh

482
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Speaker 1: to thumb your nose fara at clever look again I

483
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Speaker 1: have I actually truly appreciate Jay Stu's honesty because he's

484
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Speaker 1: in search of whatever the opposite of b S is.

485
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Speaker 1: He carried with him a huge negative bias towards the

486
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Speaker 1: NBA into the season, and I didn't plead with him,

487
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Speaker 1: but I made the case that it's a much better

488
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Speaker 1: watch than you think, just like baseball is a way

489
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Speaker 1: better watch. Now the numbers have not turned around to

490
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Speaker 1: match that, although they were better last year because you

491
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Speaker 1: had Yankees and Dodgers, right, So I again, it won't

492
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Speaker 1: be We're not gonna have obviously this year super Bowl

493
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Speaker 1: like numbers. I don't think in the near future. There

494
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Speaker 1: is the only way you get there is if you

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Speaker 1: have the biggest names in the sport, probably in some

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Speaker 1: with the historical franchises, right, historical franchises, and you need

497
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Speaker 1: to have an epic series. Because if I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: will the World Series ever be a Super Bowl? You

499
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Speaker 1: would say, no, you idiot, it's not close. But I've

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Speaker 1: been doing sports radio long enough so to have I

501
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Speaker 1: know Jay stew you and Ilo when the when I

502
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Speaker 1: first started doing it, Yankees Red Sox was everything. It

503
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Speaker 1: was even the World Series, it was everything. And every

504
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: game for those two years, oh yeah, was everything. So

505
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Speaker 1: you can absolutely have that type of it'll never be

506
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Speaker 1: the corporate thing because it's you know, the weekend set

507
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Speaker 1: what blah blah blah blah. But you can be gigantic.

508
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Speaker 1: But we never got Kobe and Lebron. That would have

509
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Speaker 1: been this generation's Jordan.

510
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Speaker 7: Bird now magic Bird too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Magic Bird. And we also, you know,

512
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Speaker 1: we also don't have college rivalries in basketball anymore because

513
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Speaker 1: nobody says long enough in college and the European players

514
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Speaker 1: are are leaving. So if you had you did have

515
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Speaker 1: Lebron and Steph and KD multiple years in a row,

516
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Speaker 1: that was as close as you would have gotten. But

517
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Speaker 1: I think it's never going to happen, at least in

518
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Speaker 1: the very near future.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Doug. For comparison purposes, Oh right.

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Speaker 1: Now you can comparison go ahead, well.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, real quick. For comparison purposes, Let's say that

522
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Speaker 7: from a basketball standpoint, this year's NBA Finals is superb

523
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Speaker 7: go seven games, great individual performances, buzzer beaters. Will that

524
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Speaker 7: help make it respectable in the ratings? Or is the

525
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Speaker 7: rioting already on the wall, Because I'll go back to

526
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Speaker 7: this nineteen ninety one World Series, the Twins and Braves

527
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Speaker 7: to at least one, you know, relatively mid or small

528
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Speaker 7: market team, not a lot of super duper stars, although

529
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Speaker 7: they were stars, but they are the best top one

530
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Speaker 7: of the best, top to bottom seven game World series

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Speaker 7: ever wound up averaging thirty five million viewers. If this

532
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Speaker 7: year's NBA Finals from a basketball standpoint, completely sells out

533
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Speaker 7: in terms of excitement and individual performances and goes seven,

534
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Speaker 7: will that make a difference in the ratings nationally? Or

535
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Speaker 7: has that basically already been set?

536
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Speaker 1: And I think it's already been set me too. It's

537
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Speaker 1: already been set, and that is the Midway.

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Speaker 1: There's some new reporting on the next firing of Tom

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Speaker 1: Sibido right, and uk, I think all this stuff is

545
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Speaker 1: super interesting. You know, I did read what set Davis tweeted.

546
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Speaker 1: I've been working with Jay Wright on TV for three years.

547
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Speaker 1: Based on every conversation we've had, I would say that

548
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Speaker 1: there's a greater chance that I will be the Knicks

549
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Speaker 1: head coach than him. The difference is if they call me,

550
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Speaker 1: I will say yes, Uh, that sounds great and I

551
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: love Seth. But if you're if you're a basketball guy,

552
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: if you're an East Coast guy. The idea and it

553
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: has lured many people before. The guy who wins the

554
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Speaker 1: title with the Knicks will be celebrated, unlike any head

555
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Speaker 1: coach in the NBA, any head coach in the NBA.

556
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Speaker 1: And I agree. I've talked to Jay as well. I

557
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Speaker 1: think Jay likes his life. I think it's a great life,

558
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: but he doesn't. We don't want to go back to

559
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Speaker 1: college because college is not the same, right, College is

560
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: not the same, and it's just it's not what it

561
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Speaker 1: used to be when he was there. Doesn't mean he

562
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Speaker 1: wouldn't win, and the guy win no matter what he does.

563
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Speaker 1: But he also can make fifteen or twenty million dollars

564
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: a year like there's no salary cap on coaches. You know,

565
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Speaker 1: I have to like Jim Dolan, but he's a billionaire

566
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: and he can write whatever check he wants, per league sources,

567
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: NIXT relieved Tom Thibodeau of his duties after the team

568
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: reces from conference finals for the first time in twenty

569
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Speaker 1: five years, but failed to defance the NBA Finals with

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Speaker 1: the goal of winning a championship. League sources told The

571
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Athletic that this organization needed a new voice and it was

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Speaker 1: the first step in the process of reaching those heights.

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Speaker 1: Those sources said it was a decision made by team

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Speaker 1: president Leon Rose with the backing of owner James Dolan. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've had people ask me all the time, like, well,

576
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: what did you think of TIB's rotations? Look, Tom Thibodeau's

577
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Speaker 1: coach in the NBA for as long as I've been alive,

578
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: and I get that. It's really cool to sit here

579
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: and go like, why'd you sub this guy? And why

580
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: did you love that guy? And this guy had success?

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Speaker 1: And Okay, if you didn't know that Tibbs doesn't play

582
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Speaker 1: his bench, I don't know what to tell you. I

583
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Speaker 1: know he has not won an NBA title yet he's

584
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Speaker 1: also not had an NBA championship caliber team, and this

585
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: one was a flawed team as well. Did he do

586
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Speaker 1: the perfect coaching job? No, but they they had gotten

587
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Speaker 1: better every year, They went further in the playoffs every year,

588
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Speaker 1: and they got to the first teams conference finals in

589
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Speaker 1: twenty five years. So I'm not exactly sure what we're

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Speaker 1: looking for in terms of some sort of magic cure,

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Speaker 1: magic elixer. Did Jay Wright thing makes sense because he's

592
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Speaker 1: got three former villainov A wild Cats, three guys that'll

593
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Speaker 1: immediately buy in. And that's what you got to be

594
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Speaker 1: worried about, because no matter who they bring in, everyone

595
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Speaker 1: else was brought in under Tibb's watch, and Tibbs signed

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Speaker 1: off on it. So now you got a new guy,

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Speaker 1: new people, and is he gonna bring his own players

598
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Speaker 1: per se, just like we're talking about James Ott, right,

599
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Speaker 1: he's a Michigan State guy. He was brought in because

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Speaker 1: the owners of Michigan State guy, and everybody brings in

601
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Speaker 1: their own people, and you have a really good chance

602
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Speaker 1: of upsetting the apple cart when you have a new

603
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Speaker 1: head coach that brings in his own people. When he

604
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Speaker 1: signed Jay Wright, he doesn't have to bring in his

605
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Speaker 1: I still think Jeff Van Gundy is out there as

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Speaker 1: a candidate. Obviously, Mike Malone's a possible candidate. Those are

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Speaker 1: three really good candidates. Van Gundy coach in the league.

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Speaker 1: This year covered the league forever been in New York,

614
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Speaker 1: went to it, He went went to a finals. Malone

615
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Speaker 1: won a championship, and Jay Wright won to national championships.

616
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Speaker 1: Has three former players on the team and is beloved

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Speaker 1: in basketball. And you know, again the offense in the

618
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: style would be different, but the simplicity of how he

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Speaker 1: does things. Now, the one thing that Jay would run

620
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Speaker 1: into is, you know, he's so big on attitude. If

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Speaker 1: you've ever been to their practices, they're like machines. It's

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Speaker 1: an amazing practice. I don't think that works in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: and I'd be interested to see how it would be

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Speaker 1: implemented in terms of how they're kind of programmed to act,

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Speaker 1: to act, to work and to play together as a team.

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Speaker 1: That part would be really interesting.

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Speaker 5: Hm.

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Speaker 1: And I can't think of anybody else who is a

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Speaker 1: candid because you can't fire a coach because he hasn't

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Speaker 1: been successful in the NBA playss for a coach that

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Speaker 1: hasn't been successful in the NBA plass or in championship basketball?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Sammy, what about like Brad Stevens. They could lure

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Speaker 5: him away from the Celtics front office.

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Speaker 1: So he's the president, he makes all the decisions, and

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Speaker 1: he wants to be the coach and work for somebody else.

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Speaker 5: Who I'm just throwing it out there. That's why the

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Speaker 5: offers of analysis I wanted from you.

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Speaker 1: He's just saying, would I hire Would I hire Brad

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Speaker 1: Stevens if I get him? Yes? But why would Brad Stevens,

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Speaker 1: who kicked himself upstairs to the presidency and won an

641
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: NBA championship and probably feels like you're healthy, they could

642
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: have won another one? Why would he Why would that

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Speaker 1: be the job that he takes.

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Speaker 5: That's not a New Yorker point.

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Speaker 1: We are you gonna say Therese too.

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Speaker 6: I know you've had experience, whether it be in your

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Speaker 6: coaches room or in your your own business broadcast business.

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Speaker 6: But when the leader of the meeting says, hey, I'm

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Speaker 6: taking all ideas here, no such thing is a bad idea.

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Speaker 6: I think Sam just proved like sometimes there is such

651
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Speaker 6: thing as that, and you know, maybe it's just not

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Speaker 6: worthy of discussion.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's not worthy of discussion. No, no, I

654
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Speaker 1: don't think that's not worth of discussion. I'm not and

655
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Speaker 1: and and Sam. I know sometimes I appear and dismissive.

656
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, no.

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Speaker 5: You were listed all the reasons why he wouldn't leave.

658
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 5: He's always a name that comes up, so I I

659
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Speaker 5: just thought.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's always name. It comes up at Indiana because

661
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: he's from Indiana, and people who are like, what's Indiana?

662
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: So of course you want to coach Indiana And he's like, yeah,

663
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: coach the butler went to two National Championship games, like

664
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Speaker 1: NBA is way better and the other part too. It

665
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: is like he's a legit husband, father. He likes to

666
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Speaker 1: be home. That's one of the reasons he didn't want

667
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: to coach anymore. So I don't think he wants the

668
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: noise in the nonsense of being a next coach. I

669
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Speaker 1: could be wrong.

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Speaker 5: He has a nine to five job. Yeah, he makes

671
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 5: plenty of money, he's winning championships.

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Speaker 1: I think he's good.

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Speaker 5: He just the only thing I can think of is

674
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Speaker 5: that he has like a thirsty desire to coach players again.

675
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: But he kind of does.

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Speaker 1: If he has the thirst desire to coach players again, yeah,

677
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: that's possible. I don't think that would be the place

678
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Speaker 1: to do it, but I could be wrong.

679
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Speaker 8: I just can't.

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Speaker 6: The cliche there's no such thing as bad ideas, I

681
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 6: think is oh yeah, I think there's always is such

682
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Speaker 6: thing as.

683
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: Though, there's definitely such thing as bad ideas.

684
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Speaker 6: And then also the people that say doesn't hurt to ask, No,

685
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 6: it actually does hurt to ask, Like if if you're

686
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Speaker 6: if your relationship with the person becomes compromised because you

687
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 6: just asked them to do something, was it worth it? No,

688
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 6: it does hurt to ask, Like, hey, doesn't hurt to ask,

689
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Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden when they are being

690
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 6: called in and compromised relationships and no, I'm never gonna

691
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 6: buy it doesn't hurt to ask.

692
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: I don't think anything was injured or damage because I

693
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 5: threw Brad Stevens's name out.

694
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Speaker 8: No, no, no, I'm onto.

695
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: A totally different he's on a whole different time.

696
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Speaker 8: I'm way off on the subject.

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Speaker 1: What you did was it's like a personal no. No,

698
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: it's like the lawyer who says, like, basically like you

699
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: open the door with that line of questioning. Oh, you

700
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: open the door, your honor. Yeah, so you open the

701
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: door to the discussion about brainstorming brainstorming sessions where somebody says,

702
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: no such thing as a bad idea, and then the

703
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: second they say that, somebody raised their hands says, hey,

704
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: what about it's just outside the box. What about colonizing uranus? Right,

705
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: which of course makes people say uranus, which makes everybody laugh,

706
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: which the hand't actually happened because it's not anyway, there

707
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: are bad ideas.

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Speaker 6: And then the second one was was a totally different topic.

709
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 6: And recently the guy, the kid from Penn State that

710
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 6: was drafted second overall, he asked Lawrence Taylor for his number,

711
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 6: and he probably did it under the premise of, hey,

712
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 6: doesn't hurt to ask, doesn'tsk But it does because your

713
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 6: reputation for you look foolish for asking kid.

714
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 5: But you don't get what you don't ask for you

715
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: have to try it.

716
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 6: Obviously Sam is a proponent of it doesn't hurt to ask,

717
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 6: which is fine.

718
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this. Let uh, let's circle back to this.

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Speaker 1: We got a good midway coming up as well. Big

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Speaker 1: Shot Bob, I believe is calling in here momentarily for

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Speaker 1: me that Let's get you a quick update here on

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Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Isaac, It's

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And there

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Speaker 1: is no man on earth more synonymous with Championship NBA

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Speaker 1: Basketball than our next guest. He's known as Big Shot Bob.

726
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Speaker 1: We'll just call it Robert or we'll get formal. Seven

727
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: time NBA champion, two with the Rockets, three with the Lakers,

728
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Speaker 1: two with the Spurs. And he's here courtesy of bet Online.

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Speaker 1: She got bet online for updated NBA Finals series and

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Speaker 1: MVP odds, along with game by game lines and props. Uh, Robert,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking time. Your first NBA Finals

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00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: was against two.

733
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Speaker 2: New York Knicks.

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Speaker 1: So was that the oj.

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Speaker 10: One Game three?

736
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Speaker 1: So okay, so let's go before the series right because

737
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: because that was the no Jordan in the league year

738
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: New York finally broke through. Okay, you had you had Dream,

739
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Kenny Smith, what do you remember about getting ready for

740
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 1: that series?

741
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: I just remember how tough it was.

742
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 10: You then we went down two to the Phoenix Suns

743
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 10: and we had to come back and go in the

744
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 10: road and win. And it was just the way we

745
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 10: were constructed. Was a defensive team. And I think we're

746
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 10: the only team that's probably won the NBA Championship that

747
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 10: at the time that only had one All Star, you know,

748
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 10: that was Dream. But we played really good defense. I

749
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 10: think we were top three defensively.

750
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: In the league, and we were able to shut people down.

751
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 10: And we had one of the best players in the league,

752
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 10: you know, MVP and a Chema Lodgemon. We just kind

753
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 10: of rolle his coattail to a championship. So it was

754
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 10: an amazing run.

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00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what's

756
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Speaker 1: it likes? What was that first championship like? To win?

757
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: It was weird because when I wanted I just kind

758
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: of like, oh, is.

759
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Speaker 10: This what the NBA about? Because I was in my

760
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 10: second year and I was happy because you know, the

761
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 10: season was over. I can get some rest and then

762
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 10: I looked around and I realized I never even touched

763
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 10: the trophy, and I was like, oh crap, I.

764
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: Need to get back here and get so I can

765
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: touch the trophy.

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Speaker 10: And it was just one of those moments where you

767
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 10: was you was so proud of yourself, but I was

768
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 10: more the type like, Oh, this is what dream played for,

769
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 10: this is what otis played for. You know, you know

770
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 10: Kenny Smith, Randon Maxley, these guys have been in the

771
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 10: league way longer than me. I just I just took

772
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 10: a step back and let them enjoy the moment. I

773
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 10: just watched because I just feel like I really deserved

774
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 10: to touch it because I hadn't been doing that long.

775
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 10: It was just one of those experiences that could just

776
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 10: be shocked and you're just like, you don't know what

777
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 10: to do.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, what was the most What was the

779
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: one that you won that if you look back, you're like,

780
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't think we were that good, yet we still

781
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: won the title.

782
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 10: It was ninety five, you know when we started. When

783
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 10: we started, I'm saying this a three or four times.

784
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 10: When we started small ball, we went down three runs

785
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 10: to the Phoenix Suns, and they moved me to small forward,

786
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 10: and then we won the series and went on to

787
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 10: sweep Orlando in the finals, and you look back and

788
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 10: you said, Okay, we had two great players in Clyde

789
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 10: Dresser and chem Olajae, and the way they played in

790
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 10: the couple series, you know, both of them having forty

791
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 10: points against the Utah Jazz to win a game, and

792
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 10: the way we went down three to one, the scenes

793
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 10: and getting the way we just annihilated the Spurs. After

794
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 10: David Robinson won MVP and then we swept Orlando, He's like, like,

795
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 10: were we really that good? And you look back and

796
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 10: everybody self, Jordan would have been there, you wouldn't have one.

797
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 10: I'm like, y'all, forget Jordan got his butt beat by

798
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Speaker 10: this by Orlando.

799
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Speaker 2: Matter it. He was back. He dropped the double nickel

800
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: that year on New York, so he was back. So

801
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: for us, just look at that year.

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00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 10: I was like, oh, we won that. But every other year,

803
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 10: you know, with the Lakers were just beast and we

804
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 10: beat everybody. And the same thing with the Spurs, we

805
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 10: just betting everybody. So if I have to pick one,

806
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 10: is the ninety five?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the Lakers, right, I mean, the

808
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: shot against the Kings is one that There's lots of

809
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: shots you maybe the spurs and shots you made, but

810
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it feels like the one against the

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Speaker 1: Kings is a one that people point to the most.

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00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: Why do you think that.

813
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 10: Is because they felt like we were if we lose

814
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 10: this game, we go down three one to the Kings,

815
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 10: and Kings had the best record in basketball that year.

816
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 10: You know, it was right there with Chris Webber, Doug Chrissy,

817
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 10: and Mike Bibbott. They had a really good team. You know,

818
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 10: they could beat anyone. We knew whoever won that game

819
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 10: was going to win win the NBA title. And I

820
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 10: think for us and the pill was a game game

821
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 10: four knocking down that shot at home. Now you think

822
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 10: about it, the way I played against the Pistons in

823
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 10: two thousand and five, I didn't even talk about that

824
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 10: in the second half, but because I made a shot

825
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 10: in the Laker uniform in Staples at the time, it's

826
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Speaker 10: going to be talked about because one of the greatest

827
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Speaker 10: franchise in all of sports, and at home, you know,

828
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 10: it was very significant in the world of sports.

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Speaker 1: I should say, what's that like for everybody to know

830
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: you as big Shot Bop. I mean, honestly, what does

831
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: that feel like When people shout that out to you

832
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: and they see you walking by.

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00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 10: It feels great, man, Because when you're a kid growing up,

834
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 10: you said you wanted the nickname, and when you you know,

835
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Speaker 10: you don't just come out and say, I'm calling myself

836
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 10: big shot. And if someone gives you the name and

837
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 10: it sticks, it.

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Speaker 2: Means a lot because it made it.

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Speaker 10: Bits you know, you made it. You think about how

840
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 10: many songs my name has been mentioned, all the titles them,

841
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 10: and people, oh, bit chat, what's happening? You know, it

842
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 10: makes you feel good because there's a lot of guys

843
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 10: that I passed by and I'm like, damn, what's his

844
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 10: name again? But when you got a nickname that sticks,

845
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 10: you know. So now that I got a nickname that

846
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 10: kind of sticks, and I'm on the minds of a

847
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 10: lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get rid of For this NBA Finals, you

849
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: got the thunder who they're a super young team, but

850
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: obviously super talented team, deep athletic, and I do think

851
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: it benefits them that they're going against a pacer team

852
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: that they're not super young, but they're they're not. It's

853
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: not like they're going against Lebron, Grizzly Vetts, guys that

854
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: have been there, guys that get benefit of debt with calls.

855
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: What just tell me what your overall early thoughts are

856
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: on the matchup between the two teams.

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00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 10: I think they're very similar. You know, if you put them,

858
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 10: you line them up, you think about who they have

859
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 10: and what team they're all similar. You know, check Honngery

860
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 10: shoots a lot of threes, and you got Miles Turner

861
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 10: who shoots a lot of threes. You got Obi Topping

862
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 10: who can jump out to gym. Then you got you know,

863
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 10: Jayalen Williams you can jump out of the down. You

864
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 10: got Lou Dorkin who played good defense. You got Siakam

865
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 10: that can play defense. It's like you go down this

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00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 10: list of players, they're all pretty much evenly matching.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 10: Okay, see just gets more fanfare because of the commercials

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Speaker 10: because SGA got you know, MVP, and they playing in

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Speaker 10: the West, and you always think the West is better,

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Speaker 10: but don't created this spacer team manters Hallibron who's playing

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Speaker 10: with a chip on this summer. You got nim Hart

873
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Speaker 10: who stepped into a role who can knock down some

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Speaker 10: big shots. A lot of guys on this team that

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Speaker 10: are really good. You think about what Nie Smith did

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Speaker 10: and we hit like what eight nine threes against the Knicks,

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Speaker 10: So you never know what can happen. And I think

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Speaker 10: this space of team they played the best as far

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Speaker 10: as team orient and basketball. Someone every night is the leading score.

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Speaker 10: I think they play better than even okay see because

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00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 10: okay see, each and every night, you know who their

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Speaker 10: leading scorer is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: You know, you do you do?

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Speaker 2: How?

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about how he's officiated?

886
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Speaker 2: I hate it, I really do.

887
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 10: I hate it because I hate when when when refs

888
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 10: give the benefit of the doubt to the offensive player.

889
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 10: If you come down and you bump into me and

890
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 10: all of a sudden's the foul. I do have a right.

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00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: You know.

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00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 10: It's no different than verticality. If I'm running along and

893
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 10: all of a sudden you run into me or something

894
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 10: of that nature. It's it's just bad Basketball's teaching kids.

895
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 10: It's like it's okay to bail yourself out. You know,

896
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 10: work for your shot, get your shot, you know, learn

897
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 10: how to get away from the player. And it's it's

898
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Speaker 10: just I just know that's the way he's been officiated.

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Speaker 10: It's no you know, you think about he's just James

900
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 10: hard to borrow, you know how he's able to manipulate

901
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 10: the reps and get to the regail line. But I

902
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Speaker 10: do hope that they figure out a way not to

903
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 10: just give these guys, you know, the line to the

904
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Speaker 10: free throw line because it's bad basketball. You know, you

905
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 10: always talk about you want the game to be fast paced.

906
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 10: All these bogus calls, and some of these players get

907
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 10: it's not just SGA. You know, you can go down

908
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 10: a list to people, and so they need to find

909
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 10: some way to give the defense a little bit more

910
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 10: credit than taking it away from them.

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00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: Okay, so all you have to do is check out

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Speaker 1: go to bed online for updated NBA Finals series and

913
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Speaker 1: MVP odds, along with game by game lines and props.

914
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Speaker 1: Right now, the Thunder are minus sixty seventy the Pacers

915
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: are plus four ninety, so the Thunder are prohibitive favorites

916
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: to win this series. Robert Man, it's like any time

917
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: to talk hoop with you, it's awesome. But now we

918
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Speaker 1: get ready for the NBA Finals. I mean, that's your time,

919
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: really special, We really appreciate it. Thanks for spending the

920
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Speaker 1: time with us.

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Speaker 10: No man, thank you for always having me on Man

922
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 10: big fan, I appreciate you.

923
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: Man, pleasures all ours. That's a big shotbout Robert Rory

924
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

925
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: You're listening to us now, but you know you can

926
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Speaker 1: see us.

927
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: Hello.

928
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: Be sure check us out in the Fox Sports Radio

929
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Tradio on YouTube and

930
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931
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933
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think in other sports, is there are

934
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Speaker 1: there other Robert Orri's, Jay stew and Sam like uh Ilo?

935
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Speaker 1: Are there other Robert Orri's? By that, I mean guys

936
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Speaker 1: that are synonymous with really good players, but they're known

937
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Speaker 1: for like that guy was. He's almost like a Where's

938
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Speaker 1: Waldo of championship teams? I totally forgot he was on

939
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Speaker 1: those first two Rockets championship teams, and the Spurs teams

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Speaker 1: and the Lakers teams, et cetera. Is there a Is

941
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Speaker 1: there a baseball or football version of that.

942
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Speaker 7: Well, for basketball, Steve Kirr comes to mind, but other sports,

943
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Speaker 7: that's really interesting.

944
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Speaker 6: I would offer up this, and each of them can

945
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Speaker 6: be disputed, so I'm not married to these. But Doug

946
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Speaker 6: gave us ten seconds of notice. Charles Haley, Mark Swareth,

947
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Speaker 6: Bill Romanowski. Good, Yeah, that's those are good.

948
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Speaker 1: Uh, that's pretty good. I did. I did give you

949
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Speaker 1: ten seconds there. That's pretty solid. Well, who are you

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Speaker 1: gonna say? You said Steve Kerr? Steve Kerr won two

951
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Speaker 1: or three?

952
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Speaker 5: Uh?

953
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Speaker 6: He?

954
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Speaker 7: I mean he won at least four because he was

955
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Speaker 7: on the Spurs in ninety nine. I don't remember if

956
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Speaker 7: he was part of their two thousand and three.

957
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Speaker 1: He was on the two thousand and three team.

958
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Speaker 7: Okay, then was five.

959
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: He was on two Bulls teams. I don't think he

960
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: was on all three.

961
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Speaker 8: No, he was.

962
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Speaker 7: He was on the last three. Yeah, so he was

963
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Speaker 7: on three with the Bulls and two with the Spurs.

964
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Speaker 7: So five total, yep.

965
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Speaker 1: Okay, five total? Okay? No base is there a baseball?

966
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: One baseball?

967
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Speaker 7: Well yeah, but all with the Yankees probably.

968
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Speaker 1: Right, But like there's Cheeter and there's my Rever, Like

969
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Speaker 1: those guys are the top line stars. I'm talking about

970
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: a guy who's just a good player. Can't be just

971
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Speaker 1: like a role player?

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Speaker 5: Round wins some championships.

973
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean he's in the Hall of Fame. But

974
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Speaker 7: Yogi Bear. But again, that was with one team.

975
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Speaker 6: I'm not referring to the guy that was cooked by

976
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Speaker 6: his wife and slapped a comedian at the Oscars. But

977
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Speaker 6: there's a reliever named Will Smith. I think, yeah, Executive

978
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Speaker 6: World Series.

979
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Speaker 1: He was on the Dodgers, and then who are the

980
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Speaker 1: other two he's on the Was he on the did

981
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Speaker 1: the Raise win?

982
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Speaker 8: One was on the Dodgers Rangers?

983
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Speaker 1: There was a different Will Smith on the Dodgers.

984
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Speaker 8: Right, he's a catcher.

985
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I did have the right name. I had

986
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Speaker 1: the wrong player.

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Speaker 8: Correct, the reliever Will Smith?

988
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Speaker 7: Actually you could say Reggie Jackson. Three with the A's

989
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 7: and two with the Yankees. Perhaps, But he was also

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Speaker 7: a star Okay.

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Speaker 1: Again, like it's a very unique thing, like a star

992
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Speaker 1: role player.

993
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Speaker 7: How about the likes of Ramiro Mendoza and Chuck Knoblock.

994
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Speaker 7: How about Jeff Nelson.

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Speaker 1: Chuck New Kids on NA Block? You guys think of that?

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