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Speaker 1: This is all most famous Beyond the Bachelor with Susie Evans.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for joining us today on

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Speaker 2: Beyond the Bachelor. This is your host, Susie Evans. Today

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Speaker 2: we are joined by Mike Eli and John Jones from

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Speaker 2: the Eli Young Band, who performed on Sean Love's season

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Speaker 2: of The Bachelor. It's been a few years since you

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Speaker 2: guys were on The Bachelor, is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: It was Sean Lowe's season. I'm curious, reflecting back on

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Speaker 2: your performance during Sewan Loo's season, what was maybe the

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Speaker 2: most memorable or unexpected thing you saw, whether it was

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Speaker 2: like behind the scenes or after the show came out.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I mean, at the time, we had just come

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Speaker 3: off of a big number one for us. It was

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Speaker 3: kind of one of the biggest songs that we had

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Speaker 3: ever had, and even If It Breaks Your Heart was

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Speaker 3: kind of the follow up to that. But we had

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Speaker 3: done all the big shows. We had done all the

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Speaker 3: late nights, all the tonight shows, the things, and then

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Speaker 3: morning shows and all that, and so doing The Bachelor

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Speaker 3: was kind of a new thing for us. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think that we realized the cultural impact that it

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Speaker 3: had already made and how much of an impact it

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Speaker 3: was going to make on us and our songs. And

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Speaker 3: I know that James, our guitar player, has mentioned it

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Speaker 3: quite a few times. But after you do all these

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Speaker 3: really cool things, you play all this cool stuff, you

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Speaker 3: play the Bachelor, and everyone is calling you because they

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Speaker 3: saw you on the Bachelor, and so you know, it

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Speaker 3: was probably one of the most impactful things that we

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Speaker 3: have done at the time.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's really cool. Actually, that was kind of one

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Speaker 2: of my questions later on as well, was like, did

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Speaker 2: this impact your careers in any way? But it sounds

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Speaker 2: like it did kind of take things to another level,

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Speaker 2: or just I think the fandom of Bachelor Nation, like

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Speaker 2: people really underestimate it. And I mean people can either

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Speaker 2: a really positive thing for you. But I'm glad it

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Speaker 2: was a positive thing for you guys. So it sounds

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Speaker 2: like it was a It was a really good thing.

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Speaker 3: I think it moved the needle, even if it breaks

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Speaker 3: your heart, more than anything that we had done at

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Speaker 3: around that time.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just exposure to a wider audience than than

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Speaker 1: just you know, like the country world it was.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: That's really cool. And I know, obviously I'm a country

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Speaker 2: fan as well, but I know a lot of country

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Speaker 2: is love or romantic, but I feel like you guys

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Speaker 2: have some really iconic like love songs. So it really

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Speaker 2: was the perfect mashup between Bachelor and Eli Young bands.

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Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool. When you guys were there, So

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Speaker 2: you were on Ashley Fraser Fraser's date, did you guys

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Speaker 2: was it a live audience or was it a private

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Speaker 2: one on one performance for the two people? For the couple, it.

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Speaker 3: Was a very small audience.

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Speaker 1: So they were at six Flags Magic Mountain and the

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Speaker 1: whole park was closed down for him that day, which

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Speaker 1: park shut down. But they were there with a couple

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Speaker 1: for the day, which made for you know, interesting, kind

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Speaker 1: of a different kind of a date. So the performance

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Speaker 1: It Breaks Your Heart, which isn't. It's not so much

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Speaker 1: a love song, but it's more of like pursue your

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Speaker 1: which I think made more sense and a love song

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Speaker 1: given you know what their their date was all about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually really amazing. So Catherine, Catherine and Sean

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Speaker 2: ended up together on the show. Did you guys watch

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Speaker 2: the season back by chance?

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Speaker 1: Have we watched it since then?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Like when the show aired, did you guys watch

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Speaker 3: We we we casually followed it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to say that we the

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Speaker 1: four of us are down on the bus and watched it,

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Speaker 1: you know, front to back. But we've stayed in touch

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Speaker 1: with with Sean and you know everything, everything turned out

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Speaker 2: That's so cool. Yeah, I'm so curious. Did you guys

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Speaker 2: think after your date did you think that reality dating

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Speaker 2: this was a little bit like script Did it feel scripted?

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's one of the biggest questions people

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Speaker 2: ask me, is is The Bachelor scripted? And it's not scripted?

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Speaker 2: But did it feel more real or less real? After

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Speaker 3: I think it became more real later once we hung

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Speaker 3: out with Sean and Catherine after the fact, after they

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Speaker 3: that that there were actual, real connections that that are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly, I think that the filming that day,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of our job, which in TV

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of hurry up and wait, and so

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of just Joe kind of waiting

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Speaker 1: But it was haphazard enough that it definitely felt like

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Speaker 1: and so we kind of had to be prepared for that.

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Speaker 1: I think we left with a sense of reality. Dating

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Speaker 3: Did feel real. I think that that when when we

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Speaker 3: it did it felt very real to us, you know,

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Speaker 3: but you know, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: That's good insight. I do think that's one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest questions people ask when you've whether you're a producer

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Speaker 2: if you've entertained on the show, people are always like,

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Speaker 2: is it scripted is it real? And obviously it's produced,

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Speaker 2: but it's not scripted, So that's that's cool insight. And

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Speaker 2: were you both married at the time when you perform

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Speaker 2: were you what? This is like a general question for

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Speaker 2: other people, but what is some general advice for people

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Speaker 1: Find someone that gets you and can put up with you.

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Speaker 1: And for us being in a band, I think a

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Speaker 1: find that balance, but always working to find that balance

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Speaker 1: and not like assuming that everything's gonna be fine at

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Speaker 1: and and you know that'd be your life like it's

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Speaker 1: all it's it's it takes dedication from both people and

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Speaker 3: And for me, I would think, without sounding too cliche,

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Speaker 3: but do I think listen and then you listen again,

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Speaker 3: time and then think and then and then talk. I

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Speaker 3: think that there's a lot of thought and care that

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Speaker 3: also when you're twenty years in, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: That's really those are really good. That's really good insight.

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Speaker 2: I feel like with The Bachelor as well, it's so

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Speaker 2: mean they're literally getting a one on one performance from

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Speaker 2: you guys. I feel like people can't emulate that in

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Speaker 2: the real world. But as silly as it isn't kind

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Speaker 2: of cliche. I also think it's like find ways to

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Speaker 2: make life special even when it's mundane or uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're in a routine. I think that The Bachelor's a

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Speaker 2: good reminder of like you can you can find little

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Speaker 2: ways to do something special for your person. I'm curious

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Speaker 2: when you guys are approached to do the show, you

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Speaker 2: did the show, did it did it influence any element

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Speaker 2: of your songwriting? Did that romance like spark anything or

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I think everything we do

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Speaker 3: But but we we we do tend to be sponges,

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Speaker 3: and and our outlook on on reality dating shows changed

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Speaker 3: after we did The Best or so I think that sure,

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Speaker 3: I mean it did. I just don't know if I

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Speaker 1: It is really cool that that Sean kind of introduced

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Speaker 1: is like, oh, that's cool that. I hope that wasn't scripted.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we we live in the Alice Fort

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Speaker 1: so it's kind of you know, it's really cool to

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Speaker 2: That's really cool. Were either of your wives Bachelor fans

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean especially I mean especially around that time.

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Speaker 3: We were surrounded by it. So yeah, so I mean,

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Speaker 1: So and like our guitar player has mentioned many times,

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Speaker 1: And then you're on The Bachelor and you have now

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Speaker 1: That that was the thing. So that let us know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, but like I said, Bachelor Nation, they

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Speaker 2: are wild and it's a good thing. And it's a

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Speaker 2: good thing that Yeah, that they go so hard for

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Speaker 2: the show and stuff like that. And it sounds like

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Speaker 2: you guys have a really great support system. How has

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Speaker 2: your family contributed to the journey of just being in

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Speaker 2: the music industry. It sounds like you guys have been

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Speaker 2: on a wild ride and I can't imagine how hectic

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Speaker 2: So how is your family and wives and loved ones

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Speaker 3: I think it takes a lot of understanding. You know.

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Speaker 3: I know that there's a certain point where they know

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Speaker 3: and understanding to to what comes along with this life

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Speaker 3: we chose of being artists. You know, it is it's

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there's no other choice. I feel like our highs

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Speaker 1: lot of respect for because not having other brothers. You know, yes,

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Speaker 1: sports is and build to bounce off of people to

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Speaker 1: lift you up when you're down, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: that would be one piece of advice if you're out

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Speaker 1: trying to do something like this is don't surround yourself

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Speaker 1: with the y s people, but surround yourself with honest

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Speaker 1: people that will help bring you up when you need

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Speaker 1: it and because they.

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Speaker 3: Care about you, you know. So I think we were

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Speaker 3: always realistic. I think that we always try to when

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Speaker 3: the highs are high, you know, don't don't spend all

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Speaker 3: your money, and when the lows are low, you have

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Speaker 3: money to spend, you know. I think that that one

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Speaker 3: of the biggest things that is a stress to artists

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Speaker 3: is because they run out of money. And that's you know,

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Speaker 3: in the financial side of things. Is like you know,

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Speaker 3: can tear a band apart.

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, I mean it's kind of like I mean,

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Speaker 1: in a way, it's like The Bachelor talking about these

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Speaker 1: you know, extreme dates and the environment and these really

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Speaker 1: great things they get to go do. It's really TV,

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Speaker 1: but it's not real life. Like you look at people

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Speaker 1: you think, you know, celebrities, musicians and the Instagram posts

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Speaker 1: and that's that's a version of life, but it's not

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Speaker 1: real life and people that I think it's it's nice

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Speaker 1: to escape into that and find those little moments like

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Speaker 1: you were talking about, but don't buy into all of

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Speaker 1: it and think that that's what you have to make

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Speaker 1: your life look like all the time, because that that

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Speaker 1: can that's not gonna last very long. And it also

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Speaker 1: doesn't you know, it's great to have these really cool moments,

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Speaker 1: but trying to do all the time doesn't really bring

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Speaker 1: you happiness, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And it sounds like you guys have a really

474
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Speaker 2: solid fan base. Do you guys have a favorite memory

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Speaker 2: with a fan, like a fan encounter or or maybe

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Speaker 2: a Bachelor fan encounter where somebody's knew you from The

477
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Speaker 2: Bachelor and met you in person. Do you guys have

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Speaker 2: a funny moment or a favorite moment like that?

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Speaker 1: So many, but yeah, well I think it was when

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Speaker 1: Sean came out to the first show after the season.

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Speaker 1: It was It's interesting the kind of the different kind

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Speaker 1: of celebrity that you become after being honestre like The Bachelor,

483
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Speaker 1: and so it's like, does the energy in the room

484
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Speaker 1: gravitate towards the band that you're there to see? So

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Speaker 1: much of it gravitates over towards Sean, the guy who's

486
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Speaker 1: famous in The Bachelor, which is really kind of funny,

487
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Speaker 1: and realize that there's different different types of celebrity and

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Speaker 1: we're the kind of guys that we love being on stage,

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Speaker 1: but we don't necessarily always like the spotlight on us.

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Speaker 1: So it's really great and we're sharing that kind of

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Speaker 1: space with someone that oh, oh yeah, no, go over

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Speaker 1: there and talk to him.

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Speaker 3: We're good, We're good. Yeah, he's over there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. Well that's really cool. And do you

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Speaker 2: guys have any projects coming up that you want to

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Speaker 2: share with people, either like personal or professional things that

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Speaker 2: you have on the horizon.

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Speaker 3: Well, we just released a deluxe edition of our ten

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Speaker 3: Thousand Towns record, which has a few songs that hadn't

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Speaker 3: been released before and then you know that song had

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Speaker 3: a drunk last Night and dusk big songs for us,

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Speaker 3: But we released some unreleased songs for the deluxe edition,

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Speaker 3: and it was the first time we've done vinyl on

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Speaker 3: that album. And we released a record not too long

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Speaker 3: ago called Love Talking, which was a really fun record

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Speaker 3: to make because we wrote all those songs during COVID

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Speaker 3: and so it was a very interesting time to try

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Speaker 3: to stay positive. But there's also some really vulnerable moments

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Speaker 3: on the record as well. And we we just started

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Speaker 3: a new record that hopefully we're gonna start releasing songs

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Speaker 3: from here in the next few months. So, oh, and

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Speaker 3: then Tom Petty, we were part of the Tom Petty

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Speaker 3: Tribute record. We did a song called Learning to Fly,

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Speaker 3: which is a song that we've been playing for years

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Speaker 3: in our live show, and so we were able to

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Speaker 3: be a part of the Tom Petty Tribute record, which

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Speaker 3: is really really fun for us. So that's it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have an answer for any of that. It

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Speaker 1: turns out we've got a few things going on.

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Speaker 3: Started coming out.

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Speaker 1: The new music that we're gonna start rolling out. We

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Speaker 1: just started recording back at the studio that we started

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Speaker 1: at in Denton, Texas, where we went to college, and

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Speaker 1: it's a really awesome studio that it feels like home

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Speaker 1: going back there, and we're getting some really neat, really

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Speaker 1: neat stuff out of all that, and we can't wait

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Speaker 1: to share that with the world.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Very cool. Well, thank you guys so much for joining

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Speaker 2: us on Beyond the Bachelor. It's really cool to hear

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Speaker 2: the behind the scenes and just to get to know

532
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Speaker 2: you guys a little bit better. You know your personal

533
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Speaker 2: lives and what you've got going on in your careers.

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Speaker 2: So thank you guys for coming on to chat for

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, See you next time.

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Speaker 2: See you next time.