WEBVTT - Episode 459 w/ Mario 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:13.760 He is drink chess, motherfucking podcast man. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.960 He's a legendary queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.799 He ain't agreed as your boy in O R E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.759 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.279 J e f n. Together they drink it up with 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.560 some of the biggest players you know, me and the 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:31.120 most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.040 drunk drink chans Mosca. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.880 Days New Ye see, that's it's time for drink Champion. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:44.839 Drink up, motherfuck mother? Would it good be holding the 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.720 boy in O R E. D J E. Evan is 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.960 on Pauls right now. Salute to damn. I ain't gonna 0:00:51.000 --> 0:01:02.560 say that crazy more radio make now this man. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.959 Since he come out, he has been a heart throb. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:09.720 He has been taking these ladies hearts. Uh, he has 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.480 been making babies. You know what that's like. It's the 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.160 ultimate like like respect, like when a person can come 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.280 up to you like you know, you know, I meane, 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:17.119 some kids your ship. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:17.920 You know what I'm saying. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:19.840 I know that's what they be doing to them. He 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.640 got two Billboard Awards. He's fresh off a tall He's smell. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.240 Like a gat in Europe because that's that money smells. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.120 Case we're talking about he's here. We don't get into 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.480 all this. We're gonna drink because he got the illest 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:37.680 drink order. He ordered Kmis Kazazu and he said a 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.399 little bit of Chef Parkinet. But he's a legend, he's 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.360 an icon. He's been down, he's been doing this. He 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.040 can can drop an album every five years. It doesn't matter. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.880 His fan's gonna stick with them. Yeah, they're gonna ride 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.440 with him and every time he comes out, they're gonna 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:55.600 come out with him. In case you don't know what 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.200 we're talking about. Were talking about the one Mario. 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.640 Beautiful, Thank you. I appreciate you. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.880 Now you just came off to all Europe. Now all right, now, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.120 this is this is me now my experience when I 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.600 go to Europe. Sometimes I feel like the fans are 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:14.799 more appreciative. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.880 Yes, And it's not even like a thing where it's 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:19.720 like fans here aren't. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.720 The culture is just different. They live different, They think about. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.520 Things different over there, like over here, were like, yo, 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.560 we're going how we get into this bread today we're 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:30.000 trying to become entrepreneurs. Everybody here is is just on 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.320 this hype of you know what I mean, getting to 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.520 it and survival and this and this and that. There 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.560 are people a lot of places they just living like 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.160 they're chilling, like they riding bikes. Yes, you might go 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.200 down the street and it's like a bike like you 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.079 see a couple of cars with sheep, see bikes park, 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:45.840 you know what I'm saying. So it's like they just 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.800 when they come out to enjoy the music, they come 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:48.679 out to really enjoy it. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.320 They get there early. Everybody's injured, everybody's in the building. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.040 You're going to nine, everybody's there by eight o'clock at 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:56.720 they see so setting up, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:57.800 So it's just different. It's different. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.000 The love is different. And they don't see you what 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.120 it's talking to. Go to them all, you know what 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.840 I'm saying. Go to the club and see their favorite 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:04.679 artists every time. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.880 You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, it's just different. Yeah. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.000 The first time I went to Lenox Mall, I remember 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.480 it was like two or three people in Atlanta, the 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.400 Olynics Wall, two or three people in the More. Now 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.440 you go to the Lions Mall, everybody's a star. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:20.000 Nobody gets nobody in America. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So, 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.040 so where's your favorite place to perform? I'm here abroad man, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.680 Australia and Africa bro okay and and a crazy thing 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:33.079 Africa or so South South Africa. Ship let's go. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.160 But no, bro, I would say I would say that 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.480 that that tripp in Africa was crazy because it was 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.400 me Sean Paul Farrell Snoop, my first time going on 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.320 the international tour with like those type of legends before. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.000 But for that it was like I went on tour 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:03.920 Destiny's Child overseason. That was my first like to be doing. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.400 We were doing like fifty thousand seaters, you know what 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.160 I'm saying. So it was just like it introduced me 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:09.880 to African the way I've never seen it before. So 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:11.680 that for me, it was just like a whole culture 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.440 shop just seeing us that many black people in one place, 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.360 right and then also just like the different mixtures of 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:19.920 people and just it was just beautiful. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.320 That was crazy about Yeah you're good, but so you 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:24.160 always wanted to be? 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:25.160 That was that was? 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.120 That was it? Man. I don't think I had a choice, bro. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.839 You know, my mother when I was a kid, right 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.680 from Baltimore, when I was a kid, bro my mother. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.440 She was a single mom, right, so she we did 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.240 everything together. When I was younger, she used to cut 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:38.960 my head, like she didn't take me to start taking 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.320 me to the barber shops. So I was like ten 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.400 right when she first figured out I could sing. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.400 It was actually, did Mama fuck you up? 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:47.200 That? 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:54.520 She was nice? She was nice because haircut with the 0:04:54.600 --> 0:05:00.720 bowl going like that's not really a favor. And she 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.880 used to give me the skin fait like the ball 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.200 fade like she was nice with it. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.880 But like you know, when I was like four years old, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.880 she got me this mic that tuned into the radio 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.320 like remember Mike used to. She was sleep one morning 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.240 she woke up early and I probably had on some 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.960 Missmax socks and I hadn't like some some shorts or something. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.680 I was in the living room just singing, but I 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.520 was holding a note. I was like, you know, singing 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.840 along with the radio. And she was like, yo, he 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:27.800 my son got it, like he can. He can hold 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.360 her tongue like he don't know the words, but he 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.320 in the key. And so from that point on, she 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:33.720 was like, you know, she started. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:34.120 This is what she told me. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.440 She started keeping music around me to keep me away 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.240 from all the other stuff that was in Baltimore. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:40.599 Like you know what I'm saying. My family grew up 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.919 in it. It was you know, we was outside Baltimore, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.440 you know what I'm saying. So it was like, wow, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:45.040 feel me. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.840 And so that was her way of like giving me 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.440 a passion. Like you know, a lot of times you 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.360 grew up with y'all got kids. Happy father Day. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:53.800 Yeah, you know what I'm saying, don't look at it, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:06:00.480 don't look at that work, don't work give yourself a 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:09.400 bullshit damn sorry. And so when you picked up the microphone, 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.040 did you already have some music in? Like pick up 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:12.760 random now. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.720 So my mother used to play keys there you go. 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.480 So when she was pregnant, she was playing the keys. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.040 Obviously I was feeling the frequency of that right, it 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.520 was in there. She could sing a little bit older. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.479 My father sing too, even though we didn't grow up. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.800 I didn't grow up with him, but the talent was there. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.120 But for her, Like I was about to say, it's like, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.400 you know, sometimes you don't know what your kid's gonna 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.520 be into, sports, whatever, whatever. Where you see something that 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:37.200 your kid love, like you want to start You're like cool. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:37.880 Cat, I got one. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.400 You know what I'm saying, let me get them because 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.360 you got to give kids something that because if not, 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.760 they get into you know, the outside, they getting the shipped. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.920 You don't know where we're gonna go anyway. So yeah, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.760 that's when I developed. Now when I turned like nine, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.240 in tense, she started taking me to the barber shop. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.520 The first time I got paid singer was in a barbershop, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.720 you know what I'm saying. So she would take me, 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.080 you know where I was singing birthdays because of birthdays 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.400 all that went to the barbershop and she's like, no, 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.200 you're gonna want you say? She like nah, I'm like nah, 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.040 I don't want to sing. Like I'm sorry. She's like, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.000 listen the same way you sing around your family. Don't 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.280 be scaredy of Freddy. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:08.800 Of talent, you know. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.440 So that's say that day I sung and I got 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.360 paid like twenty thirty hours from East Barboro. So that's 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.120 my first payday as a you know what I'm saying. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:17.680 And so who don't like moneyga? I was like, all 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.360 had cool, this is I'm gonna do this. But that 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.320 was a setup for them to pay you. It was 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:22.880 a set up for you to sing and that pays 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.440 you because you would It was like a little right. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.320 You know what I mean, little homie whatever. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.280 But you know, yeah, bro, I think singing just like 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.200 my grandmother used to play Marvin Gay and gospel music 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.600 and you know all the old school, old school My 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.480 mother used to play hip hop, R and B pop, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.360 biggie you know what I'm saying, Joe R. Kelly Voice 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.320 to men. So I grew up around so much good, 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.600 authentic music, like it's just in me like that. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.800 So you knew that was a microphone. You knew my 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:47.960 show in absolutely one. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.960 But let me ask you, right because coming from Baltimore 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.160 right now at the time, of course, you know, New 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.360 York dominated the music scene for so long, and it 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:00.360 was like, you know, Jersey had run, that Philly had run. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.880 It's like, you know, Baltimore like kind of almost stopped short, 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.560 like you know, after Delaware. Like, so it was was 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.440 it difficult being from Baltimore or was it easier? Because 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.440 you got people like Kevin Lows and Drew Hill and 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.680 they're saying like, okay, I'm following in those footsteps. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.320 So I'm asking you, now, Baltimore got a lot of talent, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.760 a lot of hitting talent. You know, I think back 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.680 then it was even crazy, like in the RMB scene 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.040 because Drew Hill, they obviously they put bottom on the map. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.080 M V wise, I didn't know Kevin Lowes back then, 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:28.640 you know what I'm saying. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.640 I met Kevin once I became, you know, an artist, 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:31.360 and I started. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.360 Moving around, but like he was very instrumental in the 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:34.200 music scene obviously. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.079 But when I did my first talent show in Baltimore, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.960 I didn't even understand the talent that was there until 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:40.360 I seen it. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.080 I'm like, Yo, this is crazy because. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.480 I was the youngest. I was like the youngest artists 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.040 on the talent show. Everybody else was older, you know. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.199 But yeah, I think that the Baltimore talent scene is 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.440 just it's just it's just so far removed from where 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.400 everything is happening at Like if people with the same 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.679 talent whereas in LA or closer to New York, like 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.800 you would see more automore artists, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.440 Or if if niggas actually make it out of the city. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.080 I'm gonna be honest with you, I feel so there's 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.920 a lot of artists that you know, don't make it 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.400 out or you know, it's talented. If I didn't have 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.400 if I didn't get adopted when I was thirteen, I 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:15.959 don't know where I would be today, you know what 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.760 I'm saying, Like I was blessed. I didn't realize it 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.719 was a blessing then, but I was blessed to you know, 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.760 for somebody to see my talent and say, Yo, this 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.160 kid is worth worth investing in. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.920 You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure, I'm asking 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.080 hypothetical questions I got from the Wire. Yeah. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.040 Every time I just watch the Wire and someone get 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.959 locked up, they will always say the Baltimore guys, they say, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.400 if you fuck me, I throw you in there with 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.520 the DC guys right right then vice versa. They would say, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.480 this is kind of like the same thing. Like I 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.640 had to like I grew up thinking Baltimore and DC, 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.240 Like yeah, yeah, kind of like what I saw that 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.160 in Hawaii. I was like, holy shit, is that is 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:56.280 that like a thing out there? 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:57.280 Like Baltimore and DC. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.600 Just don't get It's not a get along thing. It's 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.680 just a differ for the world. You know, d C culture. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.360 D C is more you know, go go politics is 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.480 it's people there are more business minded, you know, people 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.920 are exposed that they're surrounded by a system that's built 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:16.240 on structure and numbers, and so it's just different. But 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.160 you still got the streets, the White House and white Craft, 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:21.080 you know what I'm saying. 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:22.320 You still got the streets. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.760 But yeah, it's just a different culture altogether. Okay, But yeah, 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:27.040 I like DC though. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.079 It's drinking time. I believes little you can't you go 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:33.360 do some flyers chemists. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.680 I'm gonna start with that, you know what I'm saying, 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.360 and then go for. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.760 I'm saying, the only person that just applies you the 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.920 older came was who I forgot, But there was someone 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.600 opens because the first couple of stores that we went 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.520 to only two bottles of opus, and we. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.640 Like, you know, yeah, are you in the old school 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:05.480 of music? 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:05.719 Like that? 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:06.439 Man? 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:11.320 I'm sure's like it's the foundation, bro, Like, it's really 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.000 the foundation, you know. And if you listen to a 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.200 lot of R and B today that's popular or that's 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:20.480 becoming popular, it's infused with you know, old school feelings, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.040 infused with soul's infused with alternatives, you know what I mean. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.439 So yeah, that's the foundation. If it wasn't for I 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.679 wouldn't call myself the R and B Emperor, which is 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.959 something I just started saying this year. If I didn't 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:36.240 have with that, you know what I'm saying, I wouldn't 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.760 call myself that if I didn't have the information. Because 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.800 I have the information, and because I know I can 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.959 go into this pocket in that pocket, you know, and 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.600 still be authentic to who I am today, I can 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.079 call myself the Army. I mean that's because that's because 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.800 I grew up listening to everything from gospel music to 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.679 hip hop to Patty LaBelle, Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.280 and then once, once I got a karaoke machine when 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.920 I was eleven years old. Bro Like, I started going 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.679 and I started stealing my mother CDs. I started stealing 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.160 my gro you know see these you can scratch it 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.760 and get your ass like you know that happened to 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.040 me a couple of times. I go to school, I 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.439 got pennies and candy in my pocket, and Stevie want 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.839 to see I come home, Mario, where is my Stevie 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.280 want to see the I'm like, I don't got it. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:23.880 I don't got it. I tried to go sneaking in there. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.559 It's scratches everywhere all over later on. You know what 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.160 I'm saying, Like, so it's yeah, man, it's it's just 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:30.160 it's in me all the way. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.600 Yeah. Now one of your one of my dope songs, 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.840 it's Brave my Hair. Yes, sir, I gotta say brush 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.720 my hand now, but yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.560 So so I mean I was going to say, how 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.079 did you come up with that song? It's like kind 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.640 of like an oxy man, right, but let's let's get 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:45.920 into it. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:50.000 For show for sure. This was I was in New York. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.120 We recorded Squad Studios, Quad Studios, Home, Qua Studios Studio. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.120 To get home, I'm still. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:02.160 There, I got so. I had just got back from justin. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.720 Firm was already out, I believe, and we was already 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.679 starting moving on the album wasn't out yet. I just 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.720 got back from doing some press runs. But I had 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.559 been away from home for a minutes. So my hair 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.760 was half in and half out, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.719 And normally I would be able to go back home 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.200 get my hair braided by my normal you know girl. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.040 It was like this was me getting used to being 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:24.920 on the road traveler, so I had to get different 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.199 people to do my hair. I bring and I was 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:29.679 just mad that day. I didn't even want to work. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.240 I didn't want to record. I'm like, bro, I'm like, nah, Bro, 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.400 I said, I don't feel like working right now, Like 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:36.080 I got to get. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.080 My hair braided. So herl Lily, he in the studio 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:38.319 with me. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.080 We having this whole conversation shout out to her lady, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.199 realistic writer. And so the whole time I'm talking to 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.559 him how I feel about it, he writing notes in 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.400 his head. I leave the studio, I come back in. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.160 He already got a verse on the chorus when you 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.040 look at me something to let me see. 0:13:56.360 --> 0:14:01.280 A fifteen year old getting his dough back came forth 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:06.720 to the studios, hopping o limbuses, rocking the lake. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.360 Like he already started, like he's he's he illustrates your 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.120 life in a different way, Like he's one of the 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.760 most prolific writers. It just came out of. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.559 Those conversations, bro. Just you know, it was just it 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.280 was just raw, raw energy. Bro, Like my whole first 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.160 album was written like that. That's amazing, except just a Friend. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.880 That was the song I Ain't Gonna Lie. That was 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:25.600 an usher single. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:33.320 Damn you write my interview that was question because First off, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.320 just a friend. Did you ever meet biz biz Mark? 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:36.760 You know? 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.760 I met Biz on the first video shoot. Bro. He 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.200 came to Baltimore. Bro we shot in the video resting 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.520 piece of my own man, biz bro rest piece of swimmer. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.840 You can't. Business said this bad luck if you pour 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:52.280 your own drinks. Oh that's just okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:56.480 my back can't. This is a song, yes, yes, yes 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:03.680 to Canton right wine, So you that's healthier for you, right? Healthy? 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:08.640 Follow my brother solo to you man, Yeah, to you. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.200 You're not for sure. I feel that. I feel that. Okay, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.720 but hold on, so you met Biz because yeah, because 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:21.520 you got sim it. Don't fellow so little my first 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.280 drink in two weeks. Okay, go ahead. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.880 Soz Biz came to the first video shoot. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:28.040 Man. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.480 He flew to Baltimore. You know what I'm saying. He 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.720 flew like to the city. We shot the video in 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.280 the city, like you know. So he really he really 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:41.480 helped me carry this record and co sign it on 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.680 a different level because obviously it was originally his and 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.080 it came out the year I was born, which is 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.640 actually crazy nineteen eighty six. The original justin Friend I 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.440 learned that later, so it was like it was just 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.360 like a full circle moment. But having been a part 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.960 of that record for me was important to like merge 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.880 the generations and it's important. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.840 Did you already knew who Biz was at that moment? 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:00.320 Bro? 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.640 I mean I'm fourteen. Yeah, yeah, I just turned fourteen 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.600 years old, So it was like of course, of course, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.360 but like they put me onto it, but I didn't 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:09.280 know originally for that. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.560 Yeah, but the fact that you listen like that, that 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.280 shows the grown man and you even as a kid, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:14.880 you know what I'm saying. 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.200 Man, I grew up fast. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.320 But I was also around like I had some ghosts 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.920 around me, Bro, Warren, Camel, Herold, Lily. You know, I 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.800 was working with the underdogs back then. There was the 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.840 staple of R and B back then, you know what 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.320 I'm saying. It was like if you ain't have an 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.880 underdog song, it's like he wasn't really making an R 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.680 and B album, you know what. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:33.360 Like you know what I'm saying. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.800 So I just I was around a lot of ghosts, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.000 but I was I was learning so much. I think 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.520 that's a big difference too. Like today it's like not 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.560 a lot of artists have a lot of ghosts around them. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.760 That's kind of putting them on game, right, They just like, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.080 how can we make this person hot? 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:46.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.880 But I was soaking up so much information from everybody 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.000 on top of the fact that I already had my 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.240 own understanding of what real music was, you know what 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.680 I'm saying. So all of that kind of that was 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.920 my artist development, like being in the studio. The first 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:06.520 record I did was on a soundtrack. It was on 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.480 the soundtrack for Doctor Dolittle Too soundtrack. It was called Tamika, 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.639 Me and Fab And my first time going into a 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.280 real session, I was in there for sixteen hours in 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.359 a session. Sixteen hours my first real session. I'm like, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.760 I'm crying in a session. I'm like twelve thirteen at 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.879 the time. I'm like, I don't want to do this 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.600 no more. This ain't for me, right, But you know 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.280 it was. It was those moments of like really being 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.840 broken into like you know what it is to really 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.920 make me you want to do this for real? You 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.119 have to do these hours, put these hours in you 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.440 only you only sixteen hours out of the ten thousand hours. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.520 You need right here. What you're going to do you 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:45.080 know what I'm saying. 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.960 So yeah, it was all of that, bro, Like when 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.640 I listen to certain joints, like listen to Drowning right, Yeah, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.399 I asked you you coldest, right, and I was like, Yo, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:55.560 do your music come out better? 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:59.520 Like when you go through drama. It's like, I mean, I'm. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.680 Asking that because you know, when you listen to a 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.920 hip hop album, right, you see a person For most part, 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.080 ninety percent of us, like this is things that we 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.200 went through, right, these are things that we went through. 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.800 All we're going through at the time, and it's like 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.040 R and B. It's like sometimes we be likeing to 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:17.040 feel y'all pain. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.480 But I think pain is something that connects us all bro. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.359 Like like I'm gonna come back to this, but like 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.120 if you think about pain, like most of the things 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.840 that we that go viral, like if something pop up 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.680 on your feet and it's two people fighting, you're gonna 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.680 watch it versus if you see two people just talking. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.600 Like like like I think that that that destruction is 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:45.280 a part of life. But it's about why is it destructive? 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.240 Is it destructive? Because it's just a storm that lacked 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:51.040 the treat that was a destructive because we're unstable, imbalanced, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:52.720 Like you know what I'm saying. I think pain is 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.119 a part of life, bro, and it's a part of 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.399 life that if it wasn't for my pain, I wouldn't 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.760 be here today sitting at this table with you. 0:18:58.840 --> 0:18:58.959 Bro. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.840 My pain is my light, bro, My darkness is my light. 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.760 I took everything that I went through, everything that I learned, 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.000 even to this day, and I transmitted into energy that's useful. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.880 You got to transmute all your pain into useful energy. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.959 So that's what music is. I think that it's therapeutic too, 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:15.560 for sure. 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.360 But yeah, when I go through Drowning was a song 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:24.000 about you know, being in love with two women, right, yes, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:30.800 and drowning in one you know, ocean of love and 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:31.760 drowning in another. 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:33.120 Tears and pain. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:33.679 Right. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.119 So, as men, especially when you're growing up, you go 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:38.919 through that, like you you know, you have a lot 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.359 of you have more options, right, being an artist, you 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:42.199 got more options. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:42.399 Bro. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.440 It was just a real thing, And I feel like 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:45.879 that's why I felt like that when you listen to it, 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.720 it was like it's easier to write, right when you 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.520 just talk about the truth, the. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:56.200 Drama about how about one one woman man, m Okay, 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.440 now you're going to You're like that. 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.160 That's like you said, like you lawyer, right, like yeah, 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.320 that's like that's my song then, yeah, that's like that's like. 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:11.040 Yeah. But it's saying both. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:15.119 It's saying that that she's a uh like she is 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.440 ready for one man and ready to move into a 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.639 certain period point in her life where she's ready for 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.760 everything all that comes with and you saying that I 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:23.439 recognize that. 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.560 You are and I'm ready to be with one woman. 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:26.160 You know what I'm saying. 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.639 It's like, I think that was just a player on 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.840 words because I was lying, I going to hold you out. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:36.199 I was at that time. I was like, yo, let 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:41.520 me just make a good I was like, sometimes you 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.280 got to be creative, you know. 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.760 I was inspired just by I'm a very imaginative person. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:47.879 Bro. 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:48.600 I'mna be honest. 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:50.320 I feel like a lot of my childhood is stripped 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.199 from me, you know what I'm saying. So a lot 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.919 of times I just imagine love because I didn't grow up. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.359 My grandmother died when I was twelve. Right now, she 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:00.359 was like really like my second mom, it's not my 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.680 first mom in terms of her presence. 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:04.600 You know what I'm saying, yeah, for sure. 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:09.000 And so you know, my idea of love is kind 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.440 of a little I'm still learning what that is, you know, 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.399 I'm still learning like what that is in terms of 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.840 like a partner in life. I look around and I 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.000 see love. Nature is love, you know what I'm saying? 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.440 Self love, you know, fastening and restraining from certain things. 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:23.840 That's self. 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.240 There's so many different versions of love, right, But in 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:30.120 terms of partnership, you know, that's something I'm still I'm still. 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:30.680 Learning about you. 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:32.680 I mean, so music is the way for me to imagine, 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.040 like all right, let me just let me imagine what just. 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:36.760 What it feels like. I didn't let me love you. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:44.280 I didn't know about man, you make me go down. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.400 You ain't gonna watch that week about that's about working 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.119 with Gucci man break up. Yeah, But wasn't that when 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.560 he first came home from or was that? Yeah? Yes, 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:03.640 that's when he first came home. 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:03.840 Bro. 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:06.960 I just got very hard to get this game, for sure. 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.160 I'll be trying to call him now for Nigga pop 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.240 out at this show. You know you can't, Gucci, yeah 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.720 right now? But you know he family man. You know 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.720 what I'm saying doing his thing. I'm proudly gucci, but bro, 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:18.439 that that was. 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:20.080 You know. 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.040 I recorded the record Atlanta with with Sean Garrett. Right, 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:25.880 I was in I was in Baltimore at the time, 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:29.360 and at the time my manager Jay Erin called me. Right, 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.720 He's like, Yo, we were working on this album. I 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.120 think that's on the that's on the DNA album. Right, Yeah, 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:40.440 we're working on DNA and uh, we was just looking 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.280 for a record to lead it off. You We was 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.440 looking for a record to really tie everything in, you know, 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:50.359 something that was like abstract and different and not all 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:51.920 the way down the R and B lane, but just 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.560 a little bit left. And at the time we already 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.240 did like two records with Sean Garrett for the album. 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:02.800 One of another record made it called me, yo, I 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:03.520 think we got it. 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:05.640 Okay. 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:07.480 At the time, he's my manager. He's like, yo, I 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.240 think I think we got we got one. He's like, 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:14.000 you gotta fly to Atlanta like a sap. I said, 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.480 it's worth like find back. I just left Atlanta, Like nah, 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:18.040 you got it. 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:19.919 You gotta come cut this. This this is crazy. 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.639 So I go to atletter go in the studio with Sean. 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.000 He jumping all off the tables. You know, Sean, he 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.680 you know what I mean this he going crazy and 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.240 he pressed play. As soon as I hit the beat drop, 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:35.600 I knew it was. 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:37.639 I knew what it was like. This is one of 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.160 the ones. I knew what breakup was when I first 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:44.480 heard it. Banley, that's produced it, bigger By. 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:48.680 That's sho He sent the record. Yes, well, no, Sean, 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.280 the director ain't gonna lie okay. He wrote the record. 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:57.280 He wrote the record, and this was a specific specifically 0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.520 supposed to be like my single, like they were in 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:01.720 a session to work on my album. 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:02.640 He wrote the record. 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:08.240 When I cut the record, Sean like, I ain't gonna 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:09.720 lie real, like I was gonna keep this. 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:17.399 As you're going to take you back. He came across 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:18.920 his mind to think about taking the best. Want to 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.680 let you know. You gotta understand. But at this time 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:23.840 me and Sean was like that was like my brother, 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:24.560 you know what I'm saying. 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.560 So like a lot of times, you work with writers 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.000 and people and it's very political. You go in, you 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.399 work and it's you know, nice to meet, you do 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.880 the record, you leave. Me and Sean was outside together. 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:36.600 We was going to clubs. We was going to strip 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.520 like we was turning we was turning up, you know 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.800 what I'm saying. So it's like we was having fun. 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.080 So it's like at this point, it's like your homie saying, like, Nigga, 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:46.160 let me just I'm gonna just stand there. 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:51.000 At the time, I'm like, okay, cool, after you dropped 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:56.840 the vocals, Yeah yeah, I can see yeah, that could 0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:01.520 be good. And so you know, and uh and so 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:01.919 I'm like. 0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.159 We're just going back and forth on it because at 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.720 the time, he was also working on the he's working 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.520 on a record for another big artist. I'm going to 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.320 mention the names right now and this moment, but he's 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.280 working with another male artist. At the time, he was 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.879 working on the R and B album hip hop album, 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.119 and there was another record that I wanted that he 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:23.000 had for that person. 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:25.800 And I was like, Yo, let me get this record 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.800 that person. That person was that guy exactly, And. 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.399 So I was like, Nigga, let me get this, Like, 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.040 let me get He's like, Nigga, if I give this 0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:37.040 record this, Nigga killed me. 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:37.199 Bro. 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.920 He's like, I can't give you this record, you know 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.800 what I'm saying, But I'll call make a call for you. 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:47.080 So we was kind of negotiating. I was like, all right, no, no, no, no, no, 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.520 this is about another record. But I said, if I 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.600 get that, then it's like, if I do this, you 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:55.119 got to give me that records. I can't huh the 0:25:55.160 --> 0:26:00.159 person I told you about earlier, so and so for 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.480 so this was you know, this was, but it ain't 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.119 end up happening. I ended up getting that record. I 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.760 ended up staying on the record. It got crazy, right 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:09.320 we you know what I'm saying. We ain't like throw 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.200 hands or none. But we was going back and forth 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.200 and he was like, man, this was my single. And 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:18.120 so when I finished the record, He's like, all right, bet, 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:18.840 I'm gonna. 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.560 Go get Gucci on it for you. I say, Nigga 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:22.399 Gucci like that. He's like, nig he just came home. 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:27.320 Cut, I said, because we was thinking about features, and 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.359 I said, I bet. I said, let's let's let's make 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.399 it happen. You know what I'm saying, Let's let's make 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.000 it happen. You cant Gucci on it, We make the 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:35.960 play and I'll go, I'll go figure it out with 0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:36.440 the label. 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.480 You feel me? Mind you I'm coming from like love 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.359 songs crying out for me. You know what I mean, just. 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.760 Record, you know, no records. But it's like breakup was 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.120 a different. You gotta under stay, you know what it's 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.320 like being signed to a label. You got to convince 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.280 niggas that this is the move. Yeah, I need you 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.600 all to spend some bread and y'all might not believe 0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:58.199 in it, you know. 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.840 What I'm saying. So that's what happened. That's what ended 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:02.600 up happening. I had to fight for that record. I 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.639 had to fight for it, like me and at the 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.440 time ahead of the late like we got into it 0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.159 like like I'm not this was r c A at 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.480 the time, so it's like I'm not putting I'm not 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.479 about to spend money on somebody. That's not like I'm 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:16.920 not about to do like it was just a It 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.160 was a But the record came out and it spoke 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.399 for itself, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, it was. 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.400 It was a crazy little journey. Yeah, Gucci came out, 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.240 he put a verse on it, and I think it 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:31.080 was his first like real mainstream, so the energy around 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.280 it was just crazy. He leaving, he came to Baltimore 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.160 shot the video with me at my carib at the time, 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.160 like it was crazy. 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:37.920 It was. It was a vibe, bro, break up was 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:47.520 a whole Yeah, jeez, what do you like more coming? 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:54.640 Yeah, making the record or performing the record. It's two 0:27:54.680 --> 0:28:02.119 different worlds, Bro, I feel like performing a record. 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:10.040 It's like I said, like this, it depends on who 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.160 I'm working with. I can't say like every. 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.080 Record is saying like when you're working with people that 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.600 you actually enjoy work Like sometimes when you work it's 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.680 not like I said, it's more political. It's more like 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.919 making records. Back then, it was not as fun as 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.000 making records now. Now I'm having more fun. 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.040 Back then, it was like, all right, bro, we got 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:28.720 you set up with this writer, this producer. 0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:35.720 I had fun with Scott Storch Scott stories, but I 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.000 have Yeah, it's like you know, back then it was 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:40.560 a little bit more. I didn't have as much control. 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.040 I wasn't involved in the setting up. I was just 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:47.400 showing up, singing, doing the record. It's like, Okay, Neo 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.160 coming in the right or this person coming the right. 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.360 Had had a great time working with Polo. That's my nigga. 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.840 You know what I'm saying, Like, just it's certain people 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.560 that was like it more fun making the records. 0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.200 And sometimes it's just like you do the records and 0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:00.800 you keep it more. You know what I'm saying. 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:02.440 When I work with Stargay, we did how our breathing 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.680 all those records like they're they're more structured, uh, you know, 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.080 underdogs more structured. 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:09.840 You know what I'm saying. 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.720 They got five writers in a room, two writers or 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.600 whatever whatever, it's two rooms going all right, Mario, were 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.360 ready for you to cut your vocals over here? You 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.400 go over there, you cut the vocals. You you know 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.000 you you you know you in with goats, so you delivering. 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.000 You really focus just on that. It ain't about having fun. 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.560 It ain't about girls in the vibe, it ain't about 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.680 it's just more about the work. So I've been on 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.200 both sides where you know, it was super political and 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.560 just it's just it's cutting dry and then it's like 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.840 we're working for one day, we partying and raging for 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.440 two days. But then when we come back, we about 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.680 to do like ten more records. Right, that's going to 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.400 be off that energy. Right, So I don't know, it 0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:46.440 just depends on who I work with. 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:47.560 Have you ever made a. 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.160 Record particularly like like like like for me, right, my 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.840 first album was a component over Jega, right, and we 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.320 had all these hood records, right yeah, and it were great, right, 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:58.680 but they were like they were slow. 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.000 So going into my solo album, I made What What 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.600 What What? Just for the clubs. You know what I'm saying. 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.800 Did you know what it was when you did it? Yeah? 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.239 I kind of did. I didn't. I didn't know one 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:10.720 hundred but I knew that. 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.400 If it had this reacted the way I wanted to react, 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.480 this would be a hit. But I made that record 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.520 particularly because I needed a club record. Have you ever 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.080 made records like that where you're like, you know what 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.640 I'm I'm gonna do it, like maybe a super Girl 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.360 for the all ballot record, like you. 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:27.840 Break up? Is that for sure? Okay? Break It is 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:29.400 definitely that, bro, because we would look like I said, 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:34.960 we was looking for that energy. I think the main 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.280 one the journ I just deal with with the journal 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:38.120 I deal with Tiger and Wayne. 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.000 That was definitely like, okay, it was that that was 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.240 a it was that was a different thing because originally 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:47.960 Tori was on the record, and then Wayne and Tiger 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:49.680 ended up doing the actual version that we put out 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.080 with the video and everything Toy got locked up, so 0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.520 yes and no, okay, it was it wasn't about him 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.280 being locked up. It was about I wanted to actually 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.480 move the record, Okay, I wanted to shoot video like 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.160 it was like, I wanted to have fun with the record, 0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.239 you know. And it was a hard decision to make, 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.280 bro because that's my nigga, and you know, it's like 0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.800 that was a hard decision to make. But I also 0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:11.360 had history of Wayne, you know what I'm saying, and 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.080 they me and Tiger is the one who went in 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:14.840 and actually. 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:15.440 Did the record together. 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.040 So it was just like, yeah, it was it was 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.200 a tough call, but yeah, you know that that one 0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.000 was definitely one of those like, yo, let's do something 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.280 for the summer. It was another record that was in 0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:29.080 that in that space. I feel like a ballot that 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:29.920 was in that space. 0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.040 And music for love. But that's that's that's not nothing 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.280 you regret, not at all. What was talking about. 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.960 I was asking the way you said it. Yeah, I 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.880 was saying, do you ever have one that you did 0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:41.080 it for the label and you regret it? 0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:42.920 Oh that you said them that I did for the 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:48.360 label that I did for the club. Now you good 0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.560 hey man, you keep going. It's true. 0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.440 One that I cut for the label Know Some Music 0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.840 for Love, Like that was the record that I did 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.600 because I wanted I wanted to do something that was 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:06.520 like R and B baby making record that could also 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:07.600 be played in the clubs. 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:09.080 Music for Love was that. 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.000 It was like, I feel like every R and B 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:12.600 artist got to have if you want to be like 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.240 a golden and ship, like you got to have something 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.600 that can play everywhere. It's like r Kelly was one 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.120 of them, Like he made records that play album. 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:27.680 Oh yeah, he said, you gotta hold away, you got 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.720 you said, I was Kelly elise Y. 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.960 He got It's eight minutes. It was eight min and sold. 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.600 Back then, I just found that it's fifteen minis sold. Man, 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:44.920 I'm going, I'm going to renew. 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:48.680 My black listen It's it's undeniable. It's telling right, you 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:49.120 know what I'm saying. 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.040 So I feel like, yeah, like with music for a 0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.760 certain records, I always try to cover, like having records 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.880 that can work anywhere and then also giving you classics. 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:57.719 I feel like a great R and B artist can 0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.560 do all of that, and I that's what I've been 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.960 trying to create. With my catalog throughout my career. You 0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:05.680 know what I'm saying. So that's that's the goal, bro, 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:06.240 that's the goal. 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.160 Let me ask a quick question because you missus Sean Garrett. 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.360 You see Sean Garrett a Dream going at it like on. 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:17.920 On like in the person not but that's regular. If 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:19.240 you know Sean, that's that's regular. 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:23.280 Let me tell y'all something. R and B y'all been that, 0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:27.560 y'all gangsters a long time. Bobby Brown told us a 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.600 little bit like we was like, okay, maybe. 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.440 Not everybody, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I go 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.360 backstage and I'll be like, damn, these motherfuckers don't have fights. 0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:42.640 They got popa ree smelling, yeah, smell good. Ship like 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:47.560 school motherfuckers is justice Gags. There is USA Sean Garrett 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.120 and Dream. I feel like we you know, we. 0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:51.800 Our emotions be, we let our emotions out. 0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:53.520 And the music and ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.280 But then when she gets real, get. 0:33:55.160 --> 0:34:03.640 Real about giving people their flowers or they can smell them, 0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:05.800 they thoughts while they can think them, and they drink 0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.120 while they can drink them. Brother, what you have done 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.560 to this game? You have been relentless. You have dominated 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.440 you have and you have never I've never seen you complain. 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.239 I don't think you have the stress day in your life, 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:17.200 you know what I mean? 0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:28.560 Like, bro, let me give your hours gold flowers. Yes, yes, God, 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:32.960 I love gold go oh, there was offences idea. 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:32.960 But. 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:42.200 For real man, you know it's rich. It's rich. So 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:52.840 so you look like nothing really bother as you because 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.680 I mean is in the two things that that means. 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.160 It means you like real good at how. 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.560 Oh you're real good at blowing it off like it 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.759 probably does bother you. But it's better than Lorie to 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.440 not address it from you from Queens. That's why left 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:16.000 Rock City, Come on Queens, nine thirty, came on to 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:17.200 New York one one three six eight. 0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:23.200 That's right. No, no, no, no, no no. But I'm 0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.839 are you ready for me asking my question? My bet? 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:27.600 You know I want you to ask question. Yes, you 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.239 from Queens. Bro, you've been through a lot of things 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.719 that people know, Yes, but you've been through a lot 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.480 of things that people don't know. Mm hmm. And I'm 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.319 almost certain that the things that they don't know. 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.000 Has been the foundation of your character and your decisions 0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:45.160 and who you decided to become. 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.560 Today more than the things they do. Know, all right, 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.440 you're not gone. Yeah yeah, that makes your noise for 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:51.759 that though. 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:57.000 In that whole journey, then you have your observation of 0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:02.680 other people and the things that they've done and ended 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.880 up in situations that you don't want. Like you, you know, 0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.200 whether you ended up in bass situation that you got 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:08.960 out of it. You here now, but you've been able 0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:10.839 to observe your world and to side how you're gonna 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.560 fit into it on your terms. 0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:15.040 I learned early on. 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:19.280 I grew up around killers, drug dealers, gangsters, drug addicts. 0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.360 My grandmother was a god loving person. My great grandmother 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.120 went to church every three days. My grandma went to 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:26.759 church and pray for my family every day days. It 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:27.439 still ain't work. 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:30.160 I seen. 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.560 I've been seeing death since I was four years old. Wow, wow, 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.439 I've been burying family members since I was five years old. 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:38.480 Listen. 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.560 I buried my mother in twenty seventeen. Oh oh bless, 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.000 I fought demons with her. She died from a heroine 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.840 and fitting not overdose. Like I really grew up in 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.960 this shit. I don't talk about it because why do 0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.759 I need to talk about it? You know what I'm saying, 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.960 I don't you know, I came up in a town 0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:02.120 where it's like, nigga chasing on the internet wasn't a 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.160 thing like that's not even to me, that's not I 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.880 don't mind when people do it for whatever reason they 0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.560 do it. I just personally, I got to look in 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.520 the mirror at night and go to sleep and be like, 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.600 proud of who I am as a man and know 0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.759 that I got. Anything that came to me is because 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.480 I work for it, because I personally planned for this 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.480 to happen this way, and it did. That make me 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:28.719 feel as a man, more grounded and more powerful and 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.080 more understanding of who I am. 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.400 And it builds a bond, my bond with myself. 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.279 You know, when I was in the darkest moments of 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.080 my life and me and God talking to me, talking 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:39.920 to myself, I'm. 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:41.720 Like, Yo, you are you got? It's just you, nigga, 0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:43.400 It's just you. 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.920 So every decision you make, every person that's around you, 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.160 everything that you do, you got to be able to 0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.239 hold yourself account like every choice you make. So for me, dog, 0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:00.560 I don't just I'm not impulsive on I'm just not 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.600 impossible on shiit like you. It take a lot from me. 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:05.879 If it's not something that's real, I'm not gonna get 0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.600 triggered by it. Like you gotta be real, bro, and 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:09.839 then when it's real, it's real. 0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:11.320 That's it. 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.360 It's that simple. It seems like you don't join the circus, 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.840 like even me. I don't let things bother me, but 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.880 every now and then I joined the circus, like I. 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.000 Got me a scenario, and I can tell you how 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:28.080 we'll respond. Okay, what you mean? Uh? Your album drop? 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.640 One of your artists, your people friends go on Shade 0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:34.920 forty five, They ask them, yo, uh did you did 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:36.720 you hear. 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.920 Mario new album? And he goes, well, I couldn't get 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:40.279 into it. 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.240 One of my piers, one of your peers, the person 0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.879 that you know, Okay, how would you respond to something 0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:47.120 like that? 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.880 Why do I need to respond? That's his opinion? Okay, 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:52.520 but I get it. 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.319 You're saying the cloud chase a version be like making 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:55.680 my albums out ship. 0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.560 Let me if I respond and people will go pay it. 0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.279 I don't think like that, bro, Like I think that 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.400 I think a part of me sometimes a part let 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:05.520 me be honest with I think the real nigga in 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:11.319 me sometimes stunts the I was, I'm gonna say growth, 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.520 but like the attention that I could be getting right. 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.560 But that's the thing is like, Bro, I'll be seeing 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.520 niggas do that and then disappeared two years, So what 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:21.799 the fuck does that even mean? 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.319 What are you standing on? All respect? And he said 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:26.080 one of your peers. 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:30.319 So since let's say the example live on Shady forty five, Yeah, 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:31.400 the comment, so yeah. 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.040 Do you acknowledge that? What kind of comment that he 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.560 wasn't into the album? He just said, okay, but like radio, 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.080 like right now, you see the way he dropped. It 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.040 depends on how it said. It just depends, bro. It 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.400 depends on the energy. 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:44.560 Bro. 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.960 It's like if you like, you don't funk with that nigga, 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.000 Like if it's if it's that energy, if somebody asked 0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:51.480 me about. 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:52.640 It, then I would ask the question. 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.600 But I'm not gonna go if it's if it's I'm 0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:56.800 not gonna go out of my way to be like 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.880 oh he said, like that's like, okay, you has your opinion. 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.400 If he wanted to direct it to me, then it 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:05.640 would be a different conversation and I probably would talk 0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:06.560 to him in person and. 0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.880 On the owner ship. But I don't know. This never happened, bro, 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.759 So I think the question is why people don't let's 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:18.399 just say that. Let's just I think that's the real question. 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:23.880 I'm gonna shot for that. It's cool, bro, that's that's everybody. 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:31.720 What are you trying to? Yeah? Who h'll be the rizard? 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.600 Going to a part of the wine? Please? Okay, where's 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:45.919 the uh at the drink? Okay? You ready drinking drink? 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.160 He said, yes, okay, and you got that burning. I 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.719 see that. I see that. All right, So you're gonna 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.520 play him the game Quick Time of Slim guys. 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.960 Yeah, all right, So Quick Time with Slime is a 0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.680 game where that we ask you either or and you 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:01.760 get can answer truthfully. 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:02.080 Right. 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:03.640 We're not pulling it out of you if you have 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:07.279 a story with either world questions. If you say if 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.160 you say yes, then we don't drink, and say no, 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.120 we don't drink. If you say both, yeah, did. 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.440 We all drink? Let's do it drink? You got cosoo right? 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.120 You want to cast shot? Yeah sho shots? Yeah? 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:19.319 Yeah? 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.799 Yeah? All right? Cool? Okay, cool, two options. I ain't 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:23.160 gonna lie. 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.200 Mario's too smooth man, He's fast smooth. I don't think 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:29.480 I don't think it's gonna work on that. Yeah, yeah, 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.719 yeah sure and he got he got, he got, he 0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:33.239 got twenty twenty five. 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:42.719 Michael Jackson jacket on too. You know Michael, Michael, that's 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.120 my guy, bro, Like Michael one of my biggest inspirations. 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.080 Him and Marvin Gaye, Him, Marvin and Steview, like those 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.840 are my three tops. Like we're not yeah, bro, you 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.359 know they're trying to say. You can see right now, 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:54.560 you know it might be reversing. 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:55.800 Its like you know, he might be he might be 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:57.920 able to like he might be able to a little bit, see. 0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:02.280 Y'all right, right, right right, okay, yeah, ready you explained right, yes, okay, 0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:04.680 this is the great first hold on. We're gonna wait 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:11.640 for Jamie. Okay, okay, shots, Okay, I'm not for sure. Okay, 0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:14.839 this is great what it is at this point. Great 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:19.640 first question Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder Damn, that's crazy 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:29.279 just now yeah they all right, look, okay, I'm gonna 0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.920 be honest. I'm gonna have to go with I love Stevie. 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:36.160 That's Stevee. We just talked recently. I love Stevie. I'm 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.399 gonna go with Marvin I'm not on FaceTime. He will 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:46.280 FaceTime that sidn't got uh, I'm gonna go with Marvin. 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:50.359 Oh wow, you know we're not drinking. Okay, I'm gonna 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:56.120 go with Marvin. Damn. I don't take a shot. Okay, 0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:00.960 take a shot. It makes sense. Yeah. 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.319 No, I've got no story with Marvin. Bro, But I wish, 0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:07.880 I wish I could have met him, you know what 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:12.399 I'm saying. For sure, But no, Stevie is every time 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.719 I see Stevie, he always compliment me on what I'm wearing. 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:21.279 Bro. He always threw me off. He always feel me off. 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:26.160 You know what I'm saying. Stevie, Man, He's just he's 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:29.800 like that uncle that you know. I'm gonna be honest 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:29.960 with you. 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:31.920 I can't tell you all the conversations that I have 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.839 with Stevie because he Stevie's a real nigga little key bro. 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.919 Like he have a conversation like he like he really 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.359 understand things that's going on around him that you don't 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:45.600 think he understands. He understands people's energy so fast. Probably 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.120 his intuition may be better than yours. It's kind of crazy. Yes, 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:51.239 you know, like he'll call like in a room, like 0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.320 he controls the energy in the room around him without 0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.080 even being able to see, because he understands energy. Bro, 0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.840 that's Stevie and he's real. He's he's straight. You know, 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.799 he's a straight shooting you know. I love Stevie man. 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:08.160 You know, he motivated me, grew up listening to his 0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:12.680 intention in his music. You know, I always wondered, like, Okay, 0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.520 he had to go in a different place to find 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:22.080 a way to relate to us right musically. But instead 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.160 of doing that, he took you where he was how 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.640 he saw music. That's why his music is so intricate. 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:31.480 And the colors he used in his music, the concepts 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.479 like nobody's ever done, and said the things that he says, 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.080 you know what I mean, Like it's just a complete 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.240 different world. And I think that's what I respect about 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.240 that man. But Marvin, on the other hand. 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:43.239 I feel like I. 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.560 Understand his life more, you know, not getting in love 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:49.640 that you want from the people you love, being misunderstood 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.480 using music as therapy. 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:55.080 But I think he came out in a time where. 0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.480 You could be versatile and it still be accepted in 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:01.080 a way where it's still mainstream. 0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:01.840 You know. 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.440 Now it's like you kind of got to stay in up. 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.239 You got to give people a pocket, you know what 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.719 I'm saying. But he used his music as a as 0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:10.880 therapy when he did What's going On, Like he left. 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.120 Music that's therapy for me. 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.840 My grandmother used to play that record, Mercy Mercy Me, Like, 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.319 you know, I would love to be able to make 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.440 those types of records because those are I resonate with those. 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.120 I feel like my life is made for me to 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.319 make pay music that liberate people. But I just didn't 0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:30.719 come out like that as an artist. I came out 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:32.439 as you know, a love boy and all that type 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.600 of stuff. That's how I was marketed as a young artist. 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:38.279 And I've been trying to make that transition, you know, because. 0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.640 That's like the next. 0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:43.680 The album that I make, that's like that I have 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:47.720 a name for everything. It's going to be a completely 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.200 different sound and a completely different intention behind it, and 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.400 I feel like it's gonna be something that liberates a 0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:56.239 lot of people musically and lyrically. That's what I'm here 0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:58.000 to do for sure, outside of the R and B shit. 0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.799 You see that as I foresee it like it's it's 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.920 it's the album where my soul is really gonna be 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.560 able to feel like, Okay, we let it out. 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:06.680 Bro. 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:08.400 You know I ain't gonna kock it over. I got it. 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.279 We let it out, Bro. This is this is it? 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:12.360 You know what I mean? Marvin did that. 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.000 That's why I would say Marvin, he did that, he 0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:15.200 was able to do that, and I want to do 0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:17.360 that one day, shot for it. 0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:22.080 So yeah, TUPAC or d m X, whichever criteria you want. 0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.080 Have you ever met either? Oh yeah, I know, I 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:31.520 know X. 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.799 I never met Pop before. Neither X and my uncle 0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:36.799 was actually they were, they were friends. They knew each 0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.000 other very well. My uncle rest in peace. Anthony Hardaway 0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:42.439 rest in peace. 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:52.640 D m X, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Yeah, motherfuckers. Man. Yeah, 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:55.359 you just want to drink. 0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:58.000 I do. 0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:05.200 Recipes, but I never It's hard to pick. It's hard 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.040 to pick to pick. I mean, tell you the truth, 0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.239 if it wasn't for a pocket, wouldn't be a d MX. 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.560 So I guess you can take that angle. But there's 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:14.239 certain people who love DMX and their own right well, 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.160 who didn't even know. 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:16.960 Pak, you know what I mean. 0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.160 So absolutely so I say that I can see the 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.560 synergy of why you say that for sure, you know, 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:24.160 because that's that's that's a big statement. 0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:25.520 But I can see the synergy of why you say 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.759 that just in terms of why do you say that, Well, 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:29.479 because it's the truth. 0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.600 I mean, if it wasn't, if it wasn't, Pot came 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.880 out first and Pop's energy and I'm gonna tell you 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.600 the trade crazy ship when when DMX came out from 0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:40.200 DMX had. 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.080 The band dan on and everything. He wasn't trying to 0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.120 be Pot at all. That was just his style and 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.520 Yonkers that was just how they dressed it at that time. 0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:50.399 And so if you listen to the content of their music, 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:52.239 content doesn't match at all. 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.080 It's just like the like the persona. 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:59.040 But if you listen to DMX really really good, he's 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:03.640 preplaying a doll as supposed Park was actually a black activists. 0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.840 For sure, they had they had they looked similar, they 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:11.000 both had six backs, but they they let they walked. 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.680 They walked the same route, but in the opposite directions. 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:15.680 I get what you said, they walked the same boardwalk, 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:16.400 you know what I mean. 0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:19.680 I feel like later on in his life, DMX did 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:22.840 become more of like he started speaking more on like 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:24.360 yo our power. 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:26.000 You know what I'm saying. He prayed a lot like 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.960 he you know, so he did have that prophetic energy and. 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.080 Like you know, I mean what I would slightly disagree 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:36.440 with say that he became more of God as opposed 0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:39.759 to Park, he became more of the people. So that's 0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.120 the only different for sure, that's the only difference. Like 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:44.840 DMX fell motion love of God. Like you know what, 0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.520 I'm sure like DMX last days his life, he was 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.040 with us almost every day, that's crazy. And he would 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.880 come and this is how he talked to me, Like 0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:57.040 because I just drink wine and champagne, I drink soft 0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:58.680 liquor like you still drink. 0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.480 I'm like, bros. 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:04.520 But that's not the type of person. He was a 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.600 great person, resting piece to him. Both bro Okay, so 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:07.400 let's go to the next one. 0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:14.600 Joe or Tank Man say what up my nigga? Joe Man? Okay, 0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:18.560 Joe Joe explanation? Why I mean. 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.640 For those who like may not understand R and B 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:28.000 all the way like that, I just think Joe he 0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.320 was more instrumental in my upbringing of R and B. 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.600 You know what I'm saying, Like he was really somebody 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.719 I study you know what I'm saying. Thanks amazing. You 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.040 know what I'm saying. I feel like I love that 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.320 he's still here doing his thing and he's incredible. But 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.560 I studied Joe. You know what I'm saying, a lot 0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:44.960 of fans out there call me baby Joe sometimes you 0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:47.200 know what I mean, and certain inflections and certain things I. 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.839 Do in music. But yeah, I would say Joe, Yeah, 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:59.319 I respect that show. New additional Jackson five, Jackson Fox. Okay, 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:03.840 because that Jackson bond is a new addition. Correct, I 0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:04.160 don't know. 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:06.880 I never say without this without that, it's for me, 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:12.759 that's two different time period inspiration for sure, for sure, 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.319 for sure what Jackson Five's is Jackson Five's. 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:20.359 At birth Mike Michael Jackson Bro Birth to Go. That's 0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.840 just that is like, yeah, yeah, you can play that 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.400 right now. You don't even know. If you play that 0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:29.440 to a kid who doesn't they won't know. That's the 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:31.799 true definition of timeless music. Timeless bro. 0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:33.839 And just just like they let you in their life 0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:36.319 in a different way where it's like you you learn 0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:39.080 artists development from Jackson five. You got a chance to 0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.000 see like, Okay, this is what it takes to really 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:44.640 be and you also got a chance to see the growth. Bro, Like, 0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:48.080 there's never been a group in history that I know of. 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:53.759 Please know that you've been able to see them from five, six, 0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.480 seven years old all the way to how old is 0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:57.399 Mike when he passed away? 0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:01.719 Fifty? Bro? Come on, bro, like it's never been it's 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.840 never forbidden. You know that. You know they family, you 0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:06.919 know their history, you know his dad was whatever. 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:07.160 You know. 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:08.160 It's just it's so. 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.160 Much energy and information there that it's like you can't 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:12.560 compare it. It's just crazy. 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:20.759 Yeah, I agree with that. Oh, Bobby Brown or R 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:29.040 Kelly you know that's the cocaine section over there, right, 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:34.880 R Kelly? 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:41.080 Okay, you know y'all picking an interesting artist like that. 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:46.960 That's not me, I say, Kelly, Bro, you know it's 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:52.360 it's a writer, you know, R and B goat again. 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:54.800 It goes back to the Emperor conversation, being able to 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:56.439 go from I believe I can. 0:51:56.440 --> 0:52:03.759 Fly to this is my son because the it's like, 0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.040 it's just it's too many different. 0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.600 If if if these people were generals of armies, who 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.840 would you want to be a general? You would be like, yo, 0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:19.560 you he's gonna teach you how to snipe she with. 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:28.800 The handgun, play with your hands like Bobby. 0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:33.840 But not to take nothing from Bobby. You know what 0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.400 I'm saying this is he's an icon. You know what 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:39.799 I'm saying, He's There would be no Usher without Bobby, right. 0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.680 Everybody say like being an artist like you. 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.879 Got it, Like you know, it's like you gotta kind 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.080 of like crash out a little bit, be a little 0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:50.480 bit of a rock star, be a little bit of 0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.279 a junkie to sucking, be like on top type ship 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:57.200 like bro, Like, nah, Bro, you just got to understand 0:52:57.320 --> 0:52:59.920 darkness and light because I feel like some people that's 0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:03.520 that way of like going to the dark side. My 0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:07.320 way of going to the dark side is like internal 0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:09.120 is mental. It's fucking. 0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:12.600 It's very you know what I mean. I dealt with 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:15.400 it early on, so it was like it's just it's 0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:16.840 more of a mental thing for me. 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:19.480 Like I feel like if I did them type of drugs, 0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:21.040 it wouldn't do nothing to me. 0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:25.200 Wait until you do those drugs and then no, I'm 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:26.560 trying to no, I'll give it. 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:31.319 You say no, no, listen, no, Okay, I've done plant 0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:32.280 medicine before. 0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:35.480 Right, Okay, It's just it's it's just. 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:42.680 It's just a different type of it. I haven't gotten 0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:43.920 that for yet because I might not be here. I 0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:45.920 won't come back. I promise you if I did Aauasca, 0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:47.520 I would You would never hear another R and B 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:48.239 album from me again. 0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:57.800 You would never hear another to heavy metal. No no, 0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.240 but but the constant, the constant, the content would be different. 0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.400 I just it would be a whole of a different situation. 0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.920 I'm not. Yeah, it was kind of like it's like 0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:12.160 it's I said that. Yeah, That's why I said not 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:13.960 for sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying. 0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:16.480 I feel like if I if I, if I did that, 0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.279 I think I would if anything, I would probably just 0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.640 have a crazy episode of like wanting to get it 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:23.799 out of my body quick and then you always see 0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:25.600 me go through some crazy ship in front of you 0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:26.719 and then it would be gone. 0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:30.040 Like it's just yeah, but can you explain further the 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.759 plant medicine you're started with, Oh, yeah, for sure. My 0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:35.600 first one was I started with shrooms. 0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:39.200 The one I've done the Yeah, but it's like but 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:41.680 in a ceremonial sense, it's a different thing when you 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:43.200 do like God, does you know what I mean? 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:45.240 You're secluded in you in your own space. 0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:48.880 You know, it's just a different level of recognition, you know, 0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:52.400 with your soul and recognizing yourself in a completely different 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:56.360 space and understanding, like there's things that's answers questions that 0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:58.200 I had that I was able to answer on plant 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:00.160 medicine for myself that I wasn't able to answer, or 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:03.439 you know, being in the normal state where I'm dealing 0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.920 with life right and it's really healing, bro because it 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:10.080 allows you to, in a short period of time. 0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:16.759 Live like ten years of life, go back, literally go in. 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.719 And heal certain parts of yourself that you hadn't paid 0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:21.360 a since to do because it's because it's coming to 0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:23.719 the forefront in a way where you can't escape it. 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.160 It's like putting everything in front of you. You know, 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:30.359 it's beyond it's like a cosmic therapist, if you will. 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:34.000 That kind of sounds the way Mike Tyson is. It's 0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:34.960 like a cosmic therapist. 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.560 We're interviewing Mike Tyson. We did hroomed too right on 0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:42.040 the interview in live on an interview. I guess who 0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:44.640 gave it to us, Mike Tyson. No one's gonna tell 0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:51.800 Mike Wow, Wow, he just goes like this and we're like, 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:55.640 we're scared, like because who tells no to Mike Tyson? 0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:57.640 Right, and he like kind of like shelves it at us. 0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:03.480 I love it. I love that for ya. That's amazing. 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.960 My wife said that was the happiest he's ever seen me. 0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.600 I was around that, Bro, that's fire. 0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:13.560 I mean if we were to be more like vulnerable 0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:15.960 like that and life, imagine what we be able to 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:20.160 learn from each other if it was that like that's 0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:24.000 you know, but yeah, no, not playing medicine is amazing, bro. 0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:27.040 It definitely changed my life. And it it's almost like 0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:29.879 I know, I understand this realm a lot better because 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:37.880 I understand how I'll say immature, like if I had 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.600 to to to this is an immature real in a 0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:44.239 lot of ways. You know what I'm saying, distractions distractions, 0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:48.520 but it's just like it's running from it runs from 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:51.200 truth in a lot of ways. So everything is like, 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:56.680 you know, it's about magicianship more so than it's about 0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.640 the heart and about like being completely vulnerable, which it 0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:01.399 is hard to do that. You can't do that when 0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:05.200 you have you know, people that are out to take 0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:08.560 advantage of you. And completely misunderstand everything you say because 0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:11.239 they're just not on your level right of understanding at 0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:14.520 some point. But you know, I think if we make 0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:17.080 it the norm, if we continue to like bring out 0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:20.560 the parts of ourselves that we don't really like, if 0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:22.440 I reward you for the better things you do in 0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:23.960 life versus the worst things you do in life on 0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:26.200 a daily basis, even if you go back home in 0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:28.720 the hood, if people will rewarded for like if you 0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:29.880 go to the block and you're like, yo, I just 0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:32.480 did this fast, I just did this, and people are like, Yo, 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:33.360 that's fire, bro. 0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:36.960 We reward you for that versus that's corny or that's this, 0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:38.400 Like just little things like that. 0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:43.000 Rewarding the better parts of ourselves as humanity, that would 0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:46.800 change so much, you know what I'm saying in our society. 0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.880 It really would. But it also comes with just being real, 0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:51.720 you know what I'm saying. 0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.040 It's just like, no one's gonna change overnight, Like shit 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:54.880 don't happen overnight. 0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:58.320 But reward those little steps that people take. That's real. No, 0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:00.000 I've helped people change. 0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:02.200 It's like that by understanding, like all right, cool, like 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.520 reward people for like the things that they do. That's 0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.840 hard for them, bro, because everybody don't have the same struggles. 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:09.880 Some people really struggle with things that's hard for them. 0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:12.840 It's hard for them to break them demons. You reward them, like, 0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:16.200 you know, by seeing them like yo, I see that 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.960 you're working on this instead of shunning it or making 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:21.840 them feel like, oh this that's corny or whatever. 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.200 You know what I mean. I was talking so smart 0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:26.960 in the hood the other day and I was like, yeah, 0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:30.400 what what's homeboys? Yeah? Son, he was like sneaking going 0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:33.600 to college. He thinks he a smart and ship what 0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:37.720 the fun is conversation? What we haven't right now? Like, yeah, 0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:40.280 God's trying to better himself and go to college. 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.720 Yeah, think smart and sh I was like, damn, I 0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:45.240 just don't calibrate on the same level. 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:47.480 Yeah, it's just it's just horrible. But I feel like 0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.960 sometimes even I met people smarter than people that go 0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:52.640 to college. Bro, it's not even about college. 0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:56.720 It's about it's about your own understanding of life and 0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:58.480 how deep you're willing to go down the rabbit hole 0:58:58.520 --> 0:58:59.680 to understand what's going on. 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:03.040 Especially today we live in a completely different world. 0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:08.840 It's like education is very important, absolutely, but It's also 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:12.680 important for you to educate yourself beyond what you learned 0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:15.160 in school, beyond what your parents taught you, beyond your religion, 0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:18.040 beyond everything so you can understand. So the game that 0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:21.360 we plan Monopoly and multi dimensional Chess, this is what's 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:28.320 going on. But yeah, Jada kiss or nas back to 0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:35.800 the script. Yeah, you gotta drink Jada. Yeah, as as 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:40.920 far as you want, y'all set this up. Sons can drink. 0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:43.440 I get it, I get it. 0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:50.880 I give it you guys. Uh damn, I kind of 0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:52.760 got a drink to that. Bro. That's kind of crazy. 0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.760 Can I can I say this something way? This game 0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:59.520 goes that you want some real melicine ship, Yeah, I 0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:02.640 mean you can still sip it, but you got to 1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:04.280 go to the to the Coso Zoo. 1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:07.600 We got it for you, baby, Consoo. Nobody orders cosso 1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:14.720 you the only one classic. I'm in the resource. Okay, 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:19.360 what she got a joint with Jada Kiss? 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:24.520 Jada Kiss is my niggas. It's hard to go, but 1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:28.800 you had a joint when you worked together. Now yeah, yeah, 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:30.640 I worked when I was on this was it? The last? 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:32.360 What album was that? 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:32.600 Bro? 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:35.760 I believe it was the last album that came out right, 1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:39.800 the last album that came out, King's Disease, Ye, King's Disease. 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:40.640 Bro the second one. 1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:42.920 Okay, walked in the studio, him and hit Boy was 1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:44.360 me and hit was supposed to work. He was in 1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:46.760 there working with nas You walk in the studio and 1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:48.320 never know who hip boy want being with. 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:50.080 And I was. 1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:52.520 It was just like he was about to close the 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:55.080 album up and I heard the record. He was like, Bro, 1:00:56.320 --> 1:00:58.760 we started vibing in there. I'm like, put some vocals 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:00.960 on this right now, like one of them things like 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:01.800 I just cleared the guys. 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:03.120 I'm like, yo, I'm in I'm in the studio with 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:08.720 we locked in, put some vocus on the record, and yeah, man, 1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:13.440 like he's just one of his nas Is is just 1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:15.000 a different space. Bro. 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:17.320 You know, he's one of the ghosts of lyricism and 1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:22.560 storytelling and you know he's uh, he's definitely in my 1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:23.280 top four. 1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:28.200 Even five. I like that. I've never heard a niggas 1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:28.680 say top four. 1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:31.680 I'm not gonna gonna bite you, ship gonna get you 1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:35.800 up on the top four, Okay for sure, all right, 1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:37.680 Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock. 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:50.600 Mm hmm. I'm gonna say Dave Chappelle because I feel 1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:52.840 like he took more blows for the culture, Like he 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:54.120 took more blows. 1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:54.520 For the art. 1:01:55.680 --> 1:02:00.440 He's he's he's not he's not scared. He don't got 1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:02.280 no fear of them, you know what I'm saying. Like 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.440 he went to the dark side and came back. I 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:07.720 respect people like that because I understand people like that. 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:11.120 It's just like, yeah, Dave Chappelle, for sure, Okay. 1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:15.480 That was easy a car or T pay wow, order to? Yeah, 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:26.240 it's crazy. I mean I have to go like as 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:30.040 far as what just yeah, no order to. 1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:33.160 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say T pain. Let's say 1:02:33.200 --> 1:02:36.240 tea paining bro shut out the T Yeah yeah, yeah. 1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:39.640 It was a love of the stripper, his first nigga. 1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:41.000 He was a love with the stripper. 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:43.960 He was the first person it's been. He's been in 1:02:44.040 --> 1:02:46.320 love with trippers now, but he was the first one. 1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:49.600 In a minute, he definitely was what. 1:02:51.360 --> 1:02:55.240 I'm still in love right now. I've been in love 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:59.600 with the stripper before. We all been in love stripper before. 1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:00.680 You're playing bro. 1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:06.000 Everybody didn't you know why because they accept me for whatever. 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:08.800 That was. 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:12.200 From the gym balls. They still. 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:18.160 You know, it's crazy, but like some of them like 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:20.960 sometimes like they see so much ship, like they just 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.760 got like they're you know, it's about women. 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:25.120 Interesting about women. 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:28.680 They are women, whether it's a girl who's never been 1:03:28.760 --> 1:03:34.000 touched before or a girl who's fucked a thousand men. Okay, 1:03:35.360 --> 1:03:40.880 I'm being honest. Women have so much they hold. I 1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:42.320 mean we can make a joke about it. When you 1:03:42.800 --> 1:03:48.680 like energetically women are you can learn from both sides, 1:03:49.800 --> 1:03:54.480 like you can you know, a woman who deliberates herself 1:03:54.520 --> 1:03:59.840 from that type of uh world and and and gets 1:03:59.880 --> 1:04:03.200 her light back, like she's going to have a lot 1:04:05.440 --> 1:04:08.800 of I'm not saying do it. I'm just saying that, 1:04:08.960 --> 1:04:11.400 like on both sides of the perence, she's going to 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:18.640 have a lot of She don't have a lot of stories, 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:21.120 she don't have a lot of like spirit experience. 1:04:21.240 --> 1:04:24.040 But like also, no, it's not just experience, bro, she 1:04:24.280 --> 1:04:29.439 does I'm trying to put it in at the worst, 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:35.840 it's just more about it's about the energy that she 1:04:38.560 --> 1:04:40.480 I feel like you're trying to say you can make 1:04:40.600 --> 1:04:43.080 a whoror housewife. No, I'm not trying to say that. 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:46.560 I'm just understood that I just understood that. I apologize. 1:04:47.800 --> 1:04:49.880 I feel like they've just gone deeper in some ways. 1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:53.400 That's necessary for certain types of information. 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:55.840 You know what I'm saying. In life, you know what 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:58.600 I mean. It's not even those who understand understand what 1:04:58.640 --> 1:05:00.360 I'm saying. That's what I'm talking. Let's do I'm saying, 1:05:00.440 --> 1:05:06.000 you know, just as as as powerful in different ways. 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:19.000 I respect that, Okay, Rockefella Rough Riders mm hmm. Damn. 1:05:24.920 --> 1:05:26.919 I feel like they've both made impacts in different ways. 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:35.440 So it's like, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:39.040 with rough Riders on this one. Your head rock rough Riders, 1:05:39.400 --> 1:05:40.640 your head Cutters, Rockefeller. 1:05:42.280 --> 1:05:44.000 I'm gonna go with rough Riders on this one. 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:47.360 Jacket says rough Riders because Michael Jackson toughness. 1:05:47.640 --> 1:05:49.800 You know what I'm saying. So you're going rough Riders. Yeah, 1:05:49.800 --> 1:05:51.600 I'm gona I'm gonna take a shot. I doubted you. 1:05:51.960 --> 1:05:54.840 I thought you were with a Rockefeller someone's you don't 1:05:54.840 --> 1:06:01.280 have to take a shot. I'm gonna tears. Yeah, I'm 1:06:01.280 --> 1:06:02.880 gonna go with I'm gonna go with rough Riders on 1:06:02.920 --> 1:06:04.960 this one. Bro, I swore you to pick Rocking Feller. Bro, 1:06:05.240 --> 1:06:07.800 I feel like when I think about because I'm thinking 1:06:07.800 --> 1:06:09.360 about the ship that we talked about earlier, Like when 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:11.920 I think about Rough Riders, I'm thinking about like the unity, 1:06:11.960 --> 1:06:14.160 I'm thinking about the fact that I don't think I 1:06:14.320 --> 1:06:16.800 ever heard maybe I miss some. I don't think. I 1:06:17.120 --> 1:06:19.760 just feel like they was just they was in the streets. 1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:19.960 Bro. 1:06:20.600 --> 1:06:22.480 I feel like they was like just like really like 1:06:23.960 --> 1:06:26.360 just more like Nigga, we you know what I'm saying, 1:06:26.400 --> 1:06:30.120 we locked in, Whereas though respect to Rockefeller and everything, 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:32.280 I felt like that was more like, I we just 1:06:32.320 --> 1:06:33.120 get money together. 1:06:34.120 --> 1:06:35.480 M hm. You know what I'm saying. 1:06:35.800 --> 1:06:38.400 I feel like Rockefellers was on some like I mean, 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:41.400 Rough Riders was on some and bikes, Like, you know, 1:06:41.560 --> 1:06:42.880 bike culture in Baltimore is big. 1:06:43.040 --> 1:06:45.320 I say you probably I had a bike on. 1:06:45.360 --> 1:06:47.560 My first album. I had a fucking two fifty on it. 1:06:47.720 --> 1:06:49.040 Like so it's like, you know what I'm saying, Like. 1:06:49.080 --> 1:06:53.080 We big in Baltimore. You probably probably see them like 1:06:53.320 --> 1:06:55.920 as a kid. They probably don't even like, yeah. 1:06:55.800 --> 1:06:58.960 Yeah it was lit, Yeah, yeah it was lit. So yeah. 1:06:59.240 --> 1:07:04.760 Yeah that video that's I don't even know that. Yeah 1:07:06.080 --> 1:07:11.440 he shot mad videos there. This one I did not 1:07:11.520 --> 1:07:14.720 write this question, but he keeps is he is he Kevin? 1:07:15.040 --> 1:07:15.640 No no, no, no, no no no. 1:07:16.240 --> 1:07:17.160 I don't even make. 1:07:17.080 --> 1:07:19.600 God they based it off for you. They watched you 1:07:19.720 --> 1:07:22.160 for the first five questions. That's how they watch it. 1:07:22.680 --> 1:07:25.920 So this one is a good one. I wish I 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:28.680 would have wrote this Chris Brown or Usher. 1:07:32.080 --> 1:07:44.320 That's low key easy mhm h nah. I would say, yeah. 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:53.000 I mean, I'm gonna say overall, I'm gonna say c 1:07:53.200 --> 1:07:59.080 B over Usher. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say c 1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:09.400 B okay, And I'm gonna tell you why I'm about 1:08:09.400 --> 1:08:11.080 to take you out down a different that's the path. 1:08:11.400 --> 1:08:11.800 Let's cool. 1:08:18.720 --> 1:08:26.360 Yeah, I can see things that most people don't see 1:08:27.040 --> 1:08:30.280 or choose not to see, and a lot of us can, 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:38.280 but we don't talk about it. You know, some people 1:08:38.360 --> 1:08:42.800 in his life is given paths that are meant to 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:46.040 be studied. H I see these path is is. 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:48.519 It was given a. 1:08:54.080 --> 1:08:55.880 He was just given a different path, bro, And he 1:08:56.000 --> 1:09:00.200 represents something that I feel like, you know, a lot 1:09:00.240 --> 1:09:03.200 of times we overlook because of you know, mistakes that 1:09:03.280 --> 1:09:06.519 he made. You know, not everybody, but a lot of 1:09:06.840 --> 1:09:08.519 the world and a lot of people behind the scenes 1:09:08.520 --> 1:09:10.439 and shit like that. You know, I made some mistakes 1:09:10.439 --> 1:09:12.160 behind the scenes. I know how those does affected me. 1:09:12.200 --> 1:09:14.680 So I can only imagine what BRO deal it. You know, 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:17.800 I fuck with us here. I think like talent wise 1:09:17.840 --> 1:09:20.080 and team wise, and you know, he he got a 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:22.720 different type of army around him, you know. 1:09:23.600 --> 1:09:31.320 And so you know, I feel like when CB or 1:09:31.400 --> 1:09:32.240 if he wants. 1:09:32.040 --> 1:09:36.040 To really like step away focus on himself for like 1:09:36.960 --> 1:09:39.360 three like two a year, I give him a year 1:09:39.360 --> 1:09:41.479 because alien he can do it in a year year and. 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:46.599 A half maybe and really like focus on what God 1:09:46.840 --> 1:09:49.280 gave him all the way. But what do you mean 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:49.519 by that? 1:09:50.200 --> 1:09:50.320 Bro? 1:09:50.560 --> 1:09:54.080 Like just just my nigga felt he don't like he's 1:09:54.160 --> 1:09:55.400 on He's on the runner now you doing? 1:09:55.600 --> 1:09:55.760 You know. 1:09:56.080 --> 1:09:59.439 But it's like sometimes we feel like as artists, we 1:09:59.520 --> 1:10:01.719 gotta I'm not saying is how you feel. I'm saying 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:03.960 looking from the outside of all right, So I've been 1:10:04.000 --> 1:10:05.640 here before, Like we gotta like, we gotta keep the 1:10:05.640 --> 1:10:07.599 ship going, we gotta we gotta stay when it's hot, 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:09.519 we gotta keep but sometimes we also. 1:10:09.400 --> 1:10:10.640 Need to step away and be like, you know what, 1:10:12.640 --> 1:10:15.960 let me get my let me really like tune into 1:10:16.040 --> 1:10:17.519 my guy energy all the way. 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:23.760 If he did that all the way. You would just 1:10:23.800 --> 1:10:28.000 see a different being. You already see it, that being, 1:10:28.640 --> 1:10:31.320 but you see right now. That's why I say C 1:10:31.479 --> 1:10:33.760 B and I'm not saying that. Yeah, that's why I 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:36.120 say CB. You get it, you get it right, you 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:37.720 got it, you got it, you got it, you got it. 1:10:38.240 --> 1:10:40.519 You got to hit that on the note. Look up 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:46.720 to Chris Brown got the clips or dog found Uh, 1:10:50.560 --> 1:10:54.160 that's a good versus, that would be. That's a good vers. 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:04.679 I'm gonna go with Uh. I'mna go with doccowne okay, 1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:08.519 Gucci Man or jeez. 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:14.559 M h. 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:39.000 Motherfuckers yo okay mm hmm. They go to both of 1:11:39.080 --> 1:11:45.760 them to big up, big up, uh, Sam Cook or 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:57.200 Al Green? Al Green? Okay, love Sam Cook, love love 1:11:57.280 --> 1:12:02.200 his soul, love what he represented in terms of. 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:11.080 Making specific records to liberate as people you know, think yeah, 1:12:11.120 --> 1:12:12.639 his his music was just yeah. 1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:14.760 Al Green. 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:20.280 As a musician and as an artist as a writer, 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:24.600 I a would say, you know somebody I resonate with more, But. 1:12:26.240 --> 1:12:32.800 All right, Tory Lanez for the Weekend. Oh that's because 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:36.560 they broke both from Canada. I guess you didn't write this. 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:45.479 I get no publishing. I get no publishing this, it 1:12:45.640 --> 1:12:48.240 just comes out of my label, but I get no publishing. 1:12:49.040 --> 1:12:52.800 Lanes bro Lanes over the weekend. Yeah, bro, what are 1:12:52.800 --> 1:12:56.599 you talking like? No, I'm not gonna lie about talent. Okay, okay, 1:12:56.640 --> 1:13:04.439 we're talking about Tory is one of the most talented niggas. Yes, yes, yes, 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:08.280 obviously the weekend actholeague wise, right, you know. 1:13:08.240 --> 1:13:11.880 What I'm saying, Like, it's interesting to see hear R 1:13:11.920 --> 1:13:14.679 and B perspective, right, because she like when I listen 1:13:14.800 --> 1:13:15.320 to R and B. 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:17.960 All right, Okay, I'm thinking about so when I'm going 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:18.519 about to go. 1:13:18.600 --> 1:13:20.439 Do a festival show, and I'm about to go do 1:13:20.560 --> 1:13:22.680 a show, and I'm like, Okay, I'm looking at my 1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:23.320 team and I'm like. 1:13:23.360 --> 1:13:25.960 This is the production this is I'm like in it. 1:13:26.320 --> 1:13:28.240 Of course, if you would say like production wise and 1:13:28.560 --> 1:13:30.680 like you know, in terms of mainstream and startom and 1:13:30.760 --> 1:13:31.479 like team and this. 1:13:31.560 --> 1:13:32.840 And this what is late the weekend? 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:37.200 Right, we talk about raw talent. Nigga put the mic on, 1:13:37.960 --> 1:13:41.320 play a beat. I'm gonna write a song in fifteen minutes. 1:13:42.560 --> 1:13:43.160 Tory Lanz. 1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:46.760 Yeah, yeah, Now, Tory Lanez. I did a feature with him. 1:13:46.800 --> 1:13:50.720 He sent that ship back in like five minutes, like 1:13:50.800 --> 1:13:52.479 it's like he wrote this shit already, like and then 1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:54.639 like like I didn't send him to beat or nothing. 1:13:54.680 --> 1:13:55.439 I just sent it to him. 1:13:55.479 --> 1:13:57.600 He just he's like like he's like send it to 1:13:57.640 --> 1:13:59.200 him now. And I was just like, all right, who 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:00.640 you one of those guys. I was like all right, 1:14:01.080 --> 1:14:02.840 and like you know, like you know, you know, I'm 1:14:02.960 --> 1:14:05.120 used to every parody in the industry, so I'm thinking, 1:14:05.160 --> 1:14:06.600 like I'm gonna send it to him, and he's just 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:07.479 gonna like ghost me. 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:10.519 Like he was like like I text him and you 1:14:10.560 --> 1:14:13.400 get it, and he asked me and then he's like, yes, 1:14:13.439 --> 1:14:14.960 I got it. And it was like I was like, 1:14:15.040 --> 1:14:19.040 what the fuck? Had vocals in there and everything. Yeah, 1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:20.960 you're right. I never got to do that with The Weekend. 1:14:21.240 --> 1:14:21.599 I'm good. 1:14:21.760 --> 1:14:28.639 I never met The Weekend avaunt or genuine. I ain't 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:31.599 gonna lie about to say that anyway. Come on, nobody 1:14:31.920 --> 1:14:37.160 with the Pony. Come on, Patty LaBelle or LaRita Franklin. 1:14:39.439 --> 1:14:41.360 That's that. This is the first one. I'm like, Okay, 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:46.040 that's good. That's a good one. 1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:57.840 Patty or Aretha frank mm hmm, ship because like me 1:14:57.880 --> 1:15:01.320 and Patty that's like Auntie, Yeah, that's personal. But I 1:15:01.320 --> 1:15:11.040 would go, I would go, I'll go Wreatha only because 1:15:14.760 --> 1:15:17.479 I'm gonna say, without Aretha, that wouldn't be you know, 1:15:17.560 --> 1:15:19.280 without a Resa, that wouldn't be a Patty. But like 1:15:19.760 --> 1:15:23.240 I feel like there was, Like I actually did one 1:15:23.280 --> 1:15:26.040 of her songs on the Mass Singer and you know Glo. 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:30.400 Rilla's I Ain't got no bitch, no nigga ain't got me. 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:32.960 That's from Aretha Franklin. You know that's from Aretha Franklin. 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:40.280 That's crazy. Yeah bro, Yeah Franklin from one of them, 1:15:40.360 --> 1:15:40.960 so crazy. 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:45.360 She so bro her music, like she's saying again, like 1:15:45.560 --> 1:15:47.400 chills through my body listening to her music, like you 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:48.160 hear you can hear. 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:51.720 The pain in her voice, like in a different way. Yeah, Like, yeah, 1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:55.280 go with that's crazy. I't know that though. That's goldy 1:15:55.800 --> 1:16:02.240 for new artists to be doing. That's goldy. Look Tiger 1:16:02.720 --> 1:16:09.240 a little Wayne, Okay, it's going on, Yeah Wayne bro okay. 1:16:09.640 --> 1:16:12.760 Because there's no no way, no Tiger. If there's no 1:16:12.840 --> 1:16:17.000 way no Tiger, I'm just ye coach stad. 1:16:16.920 --> 1:16:19.320 Yeah, yeah, you're talking about right now. Because let me 1:16:19.400 --> 1:16:21.320 change it up a little bit. Tiger or Big Sean 1:16:23.280 --> 1:16:31.840 mhmm uh man. 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:34.160 I wouldn't even compare these artists, but I would say 1:16:35.640 --> 1:16:50.920 just yeah, lyricism wise, big sean. Okay, you know what 1:16:50.920 --> 1:16:51.240 I'm saying. 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:54.040 A couple more go back at the interview. Yeah, okay, 1:16:54.240 --> 1:16:57.840 morning to go back to the interview about you. Okay, 1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:01.160 I want to take that Lloyd or Trey songs. 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:10.840 You're with Lloyd Ben Hold up, I won't go I'm 1:17:10.840 --> 1:17:16.599 gonna go Trey. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. L A or Miami, 1:17:19.160 --> 1:17:24.280 be honest, man, depends on what type of nigga you is. 1:17:24.840 --> 1:17:26.920 But we'll go with uh. 1:17:30.640 --> 1:17:33.280 Miami just doing some fun ship like having fun like 1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:35.280 good energy, Like if you want to be in the 1:17:35.360 --> 1:17:37.479 Devil's then and still go outside and the and the 1:17:37.800 --> 1:17:39.200 environment gives you energy back. 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:41.800 Miami. If you want to be in the Devil's then 1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:43.920 in an environment don't give you energy back. In l A, 1:17:44.600 --> 1:17:48.799 a real ship like I. You know, in Miami. 1:17:48.920 --> 1:17:52.000 I can go out and be on demon time when 1:17:52.040 --> 1:17:56.759 I was or not on anyone, and I go outside 1:17:56.760 --> 1:17:57.439 at six a m. 1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:00.680 And I sitting under the moonlight, and I just I 1:18:00.760 --> 1:18:04.679 get all my energy back. Okay, Okay, you go outside 1:18:05.800 --> 1:18:07.599 this you ain't getting your energy back. 1:18:08.479 --> 1:18:14.280 Don't give it away right right, that's ill Gott Storch 1:18:14.439 --> 1:18:22.000 or Timbaland, oh la, you get. 1:18:21.920 --> 1:18:23.639 Your energy back, but you gotta take it from somebody else. 1:18:23.680 --> 1:18:30.320 That's the crazy brute. But you said what Scott Storch 1:18:30.439 --> 1:18:37.320 or Timbling damn. 1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:38.360 Mm hmm. 1:18:44.040 --> 1:18:50.240 I'm gonna go with Scott Storche It's only two morns 1:18:50.320 --> 1:18:54.080 because that's an interview pits Markey ol dbs mm hmm. 1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:05.400 I love biz. I'm gonna go with o dB. Okay, 1:19:05.960 --> 1:19:19.960 is that a particular reason why? I just feel like 1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:24.320 o dB was just more of a lyricist in a way. 1:19:24.720 --> 1:19:26.120 I feel like he has been a part a part 1:19:26.160 --> 1:19:29.600 of some records, Like I understand him more lyrically in 1:19:29.720 --> 1:19:36.840 some ways, and I feel like, uh, I don't know, bro. 1:19:36.880 --> 1:19:38.160 I look at him and I feel like I see 1:19:38.200 --> 1:19:40.160 somebody that I know from Baltimore. I see somebody that 1:19:40.200 --> 1:19:41.559 I know from where I from. I don't know if 1:19:41.560 --> 1:19:43.479 it's relative. He's definitely everything. 1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:44.400 He's gonna ask me this question. 1:19:44.720 --> 1:19:47.639 Yeah, I've seen o dB somewhere in the bottom line. 1:19:49.000 --> 1:19:52.280 It definitely seems like a piece of biz, love Biz, 1:19:52.640 --> 1:19:56.400 the last one get Yeah, Yeah, this is our favorite. 1:19:56.600 --> 1:19:58.719 It's called it's loyalty or respect. 1:20:01.200 --> 1:20:14.280 Loyalty or respect. Yeah, I take respect, Okay, I take respect. No, 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:15.080 I take loyalsy. 1:20:16.120 --> 1:20:23.160 Let's just take a shot, man, I'm gonna take loyal Okay, 1:20:23.640 --> 1:20:24.080 I'm gonna be. 1:20:24.400 --> 1:20:30.200 Tell you why, cheers. I'll tell you why, bro, Because 1:20:30.760 --> 1:20:34.000 niggas can fake respect. People can fake respect. 1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:35.559 You can they fake loyalty as well. 1:20:37.080 --> 1:20:39.679 Not really, because at some point they can fake respect 1:20:39.720 --> 1:20:42.240 you because at some point the loyalty. 1:20:42.040 --> 1:20:44.639 Like you can you can you feel loyalty? 1:20:44.720 --> 1:20:46.960 I don't know about y'all, but I can. I can see, 1:20:48.320 --> 1:20:50.280 you know what I'm saying. I can see when the loyalty, 1:20:50.439 --> 1:20:55.479 like I feel like loyalty and respect to me kind 1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:57.920 of seeps into like they kind of touch each other. 1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:01.120 That's why I took away, Like you know what I'm yeah, yeah, no, no, no, yeah, 1:21:01.640 --> 1:21:03.640 But like at the root of it, I'll take the 1:21:03.680 --> 1:21:04.679 loyalty over the respect. 1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:06.439 You know what I'm saying, because. 1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:09.840 If you disrespect me, I can disrespect you worse right 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:11.960 then and there, and then you got inside you got 1:21:12.040 --> 1:21:13.639 to decide if you really want to do that again. 1:21:14.280 --> 1:21:17.479 But loyalty wise is like I'd rather you be loyal 1:21:17.560 --> 1:21:19.680 to me because I can fix the respect part, I 1:21:19.760 --> 1:21:24.120 can't fix the loyalty, right, I feel like that. I 1:21:24.200 --> 1:21:26.720 feel like I can fix the respect even if, even 1:21:26.760 --> 1:21:28.880 if like you don't respect me when I'm not around, 1:21:29.520 --> 1:21:30.280 I can't control it. 1:21:30.960 --> 1:21:33.719 But when I'm around, I can control it. How you respecting? 1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:37.200 But the loyalty part is like, you can fuck up 1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:41.479 a whole bag, you can fuck up generational wealth, you 1:21:41.520 --> 1:21:43.400 can fuck up a lot Lloyd's friendship. 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:46.479 You know, Okay? 1:21:46.760 --> 1:21:51.000 They asked me. I said, do you have questions Formorrio 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:56.719 and Rob Marksman? You know Rob Marxman, This Rob Marxmith 1:21:57.520 --> 1:22:00.360 on my face? He said, yeah, ask him if he 1:22:00.479 --> 1:22:05.080 ever got sick of saving the damn princess? Did he 1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:07.360 ever consider just leaving her ass there? 1:22:09.200 --> 1:22:10.960 I have no idea what Bro talking about. I don't 1:22:10.960 --> 1:22:13.200 know what he's talking about. Neither. Should I just call him? 1:22:13.479 --> 1:22:16.640 This is on Twitter? He said? Should you call him? 1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:21.479 You call somebody? Yeah, I know, because what is he 1:22:21.560 --> 1:22:31.000 talking about? Hold on, let's see you're closer to the Rob. 1:22:31.040 --> 1:22:32.679 We don't know what then you're talking about? Your question? 1:22:33.439 --> 1:22:36.320 We got, we got, we got Mario right here. Rob 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:39.600 from XXL magazine used to be x L. 1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:43.599 I'm sorry, man, I just I just wanted to want 1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:46.559 marl or No, Mario has no idea what you're talking about. 1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:49.760 I was joking with you, man, I know you were 1:22:49.760 --> 1:23:05.640 an interview. Now you talk about super Mario. I'm like, 1:23:08.680 --> 1:23:11.640 you got me, you got you got, you got you 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:13.360 gotta be good. Let me take a shop of that. 1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:17.680 Let me take a Yeah, you got another bottle over 1:23:17.760 --> 1:23:22.800 my head too. I see you see you taking my man. 1:23:24.280 --> 1:23:28.960 Come on, man, he said, I was joking. Yeah, okay, okay, 1:23:29.520 --> 1:23:31.680 all right, let's talk about crying out for me? 1:23:32.200 --> 1:23:35.240 Yeah, what was you here when you first heard that record? 1:23:35.280 --> 1:23:37.000 Would you when you first heard it? 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:39.200 What was you like? What was your feelings? I felt 1:23:39.240 --> 1:23:43.240 like she was crying out for me. Yeah, yeah, crying 1:23:43.280 --> 1:23:46.600 out for me. I mean that record is like. 1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:53.760 That was like, you know, if you take Mario and 1:23:54.240 --> 1:23:56.880 Joe to put him in one like that was my 1:23:57.240 --> 1:24:00.280 joy moment. That was like my version of what Joe 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:02.040 to see what it did in R and B at 1:24:02.080 --> 1:24:04.280 the time, you know what I mean, shout out to 1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:06.240 Jasper and pull it and done. 1:24:06.320 --> 1:24:08.840 That was that moment. You know, that was like raw. 1:24:08.920 --> 1:24:11.320 That was like, no, nigga, this last take my voice 1:24:11.320 --> 1:24:18.519 don't got no more but truly truly me like I 1:24:18.680 --> 1:24:19.640 was cracking, like I was. 1:24:19.800 --> 1:24:22.439 It was very wrong, It was unpolished, but that was 1:24:22.560 --> 1:24:24.439 just me, like just really on some real R and 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:28.519 B shit Like yeah, okay, definitely one of my favors 1:24:28.560 --> 1:24:29.479 in the catalog for sure. 1:24:29.720 --> 1:24:35.960 Yeah yeah how about Space? Mmm? Did you literally the space? 1:24:37.840 --> 1:24:40.439 Space was like some of my new album Glad You 1:24:40.479 --> 1:24:42.960 came and just came out what came out in December. 1:24:43.080 --> 1:24:47.439 But Spaces is if you listen to it musically, it's 1:24:47.520 --> 1:24:49.000 really old to like people who. 1:24:48.960 --> 1:24:51.519 Like jazz and you know, jazz and R and B 1:24:51.640 --> 1:24:54.360 fusion music. This album is like a. 1:24:56.120 --> 1:24:59.320 Homage to like music that was inspired by. It reminds 1:24:59.320 --> 1:25:01.680 me of my grandfather. My grandfather used to if my 1:25:01.760 --> 1:25:04.040 grandfather was alive, he would have loved to come to 1:25:04.120 --> 1:25:06.320 this show because he loved to drink and he loved 1:25:06.400 --> 1:25:10.680 jazz music. No, No, my grandfather, he grew up in Baltimore. 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:15.920 He worked at a beer refinery since he was like 1:25:16.000 --> 1:25:18.840 fourteen years old, so like he was really you know, 1:25:18.960 --> 1:25:20.720 he was in that shit like he you know, you 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:23.280 go to his always neat house, neat at a bar 1:25:23.479 --> 1:25:26.400 play Jazz Music Records he put me on the jazz 1:25:26.479 --> 1:25:28.320 early on when I was a kid. The ain't time 1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:29.800 I go over there. It was come to the bar, 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:33.960 listen to jazz and talk about whatever. But you know, 1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:35.920 when I listened to the track that Bini x se me, 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:38.160 it kind of remind me of my grandfather, you know 1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:40.320 what I'm saying, And I just I was inspired by it. 1:25:40.320 --> 1:25:41.599 I'm like, y'all got to put this on the album. 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:44.600 So me and James Follor went in and space is 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:48.120 really just about inviting invite somebody into your space. Is 1:25:48.160 --> 1:25:52.479 like we're creating this space. And you know, I'm big 1:25:52.600 --> 1:25:56.320 on I understand how to control my world my three sixties, 1:25:56.400 --> 1:25:58.120 so like behind the scenes is like it just it 1:25:58.240 --> 1:26:00.000 just relates to my life and how I'm moving general, 1:26:00.920 --> 1:26:02.680 just like you know, controlling your space, bro. 1:26:03.640 --> 1:26:03.800 You know. 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:08.840 So, yeah, it's Mo's the best restaurant in Baltimore, m 1:26:09.640 --> 1:26:14.599 Pless you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Bro, 1:26:14.680 --> 1:26:15.840 it's one. It's definitely one. 1:26:15.880 --> 1:26:17.680 They got my picture up there, they got your pitch 1:26:17.800 --> 1:26:23.400 and yeah, you made it a legend. That's my favorite restaurant. 1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:26.600 Fire But like but Moses, like it's been around for 1:26:26.680 --> 1:26:29.160 a long time. So it's like I get it, you 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:30.680 know what I'm saying. I used to go to the 1:26:30.760 --> 1:26:33.200 more like Captain James. Like Captain James, I used to 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:35.400 go like late night type ship. But like, yeah, Moses 1:26:35.479 --> 1:26:39.040 definitely up there. That's because I ain't gonna lie. I 1:26:39.160 --> 1:26:40.720 can't like drive through. 1:26:40.880 --> 1:26:43.040 Like if I'm driving through, I gotta stop and I 1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:45.080 make sure my picture is still up there. Yeah. Yeah, 1:26:45.320 --> 1:26:50.120 cleaning and ship with some wind decks on there. All right. Yeah, 1:26:50.960 --> 1:26:56.720 you know, I don't Baltimore what you get you when 1:26:56.760 --> 1:26:59.160 you went there, it was just what I get. I 1:26:59.240 --> 1:27:01.800 get the to tell what the cheese on top of it, 1:27:01.960 --> 1:27:04.519 with the with the with the crab, all the crab, 1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:08.240 with the butter. Oh I gained twelve pounds, no problem, 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:11.080 right then and there. We don't have to wait tomorrow 1:27:11.240 --> 1:27:13.800 like it happens right there. Oh, I love it. I 1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:14.519 love Bortimore. 1:27:14.600 --> 1:27:18.519 And by the way, because people just say Baltimore with 1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:22.000 the crabs, yeah, Baltimore actually has some of the best 1:27:22.040 --> 1:27:23.760 seafood in the world. 1:27:24.160 --> 1:27:24.920 Not just the craft. 1:27:25.200 --> 1:27:28.920 I'm a represent for y'all because because you travel. 1:27:28.840 --> 1:27:32.639 Yeah, everyone just just gives you because it's fresh. 1:27:32.720 --> 1:27:32.800 Bro. 1:27:33.080 --> 1:27:35.880 Yes, it's right from the Chesapeake. It's fresh, right, and 1:27:36.080 --> 1:27:38.200 the seasoning everything is theirs, right, the d of. 1:27:38.160 --> 1:27:38.800 The yeah right. 1:27:38.880 --> 1:27:40.919 But everything else I got to get imported certain. 1:27:40.720 --> 1:27:44.800 Times, yes, but Bortimore got seafood is crazy. So all right, 1:27:44.920 --> 1:27:48.240 now this is this is this is one of the 1:27:49.000 --> 1:27:56.759 best records the history of the world and the history 1:27:56.760 --> 1:27:59.240 of the world, in the history of the world. This 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:03.680 is when ever, gosh, when they meet they girl. You know, 1:28:03.840 --> 1:28:06.639 sometimes you just just meet a girl like that's my soulmate, 1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:09.719 even if it was for two seconds, two years, for two. 1:28:09.600 --> 1:28:10.280 Seconds or whatever. 1:28:10.920 --> 1:28:15.840 Sometimes love come on and it's like every day, I'm 1:28:15.840 --> 1:28:16.640 gonna be honest with you. 1:28:16.800 --> 1:28:17.960 Every such a blessing. 1:28:18.080 --> 1:28:20.240 Every day, it's such a blessing, like like that ship 1:28:20.320 --> 1:28:22.120 right there, Like I'm gonna be honest like some artists. 1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:24.439 Yeah, to have a record like that in your catalog, 1:28:24.600 --> 1:28:28.799 it's so unique. And that's when we played every wedding 1:28:28.960 --> 1:28:33.160 it's it's an unidentified object. It's an alien in your catalog, 1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:35.200 every wedding. 1:28:35.680 --> 1:28:40.959 Everywhere this baby shower setting the moves sending them revealing, 1:28:41.040 --> 1:28:42.360 which that it called the revealing. 1:28:42.680 --> 1:28:50.160 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, general gender revealed absolutely, yeah, I 1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:50.760 know what I mean. 1:28:52.400 --> 1:28:56.200 Man, everywhere like listen, listen, there's nothing nowhere that that 1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:59.439 record can't be played. Yes, like like even in the 1:28:59.520 --> 1:29:03.599 ball game, ball game, God proposes to his girl. 1:29:03.920 --> 1:29:08.560 You should let me, like, there's nothing you went in 1:29:08.640 --> 1:29:14.240 atari are you You could sing to your child, your mom, 1:29:14.920 --> 1:29:22.240 your girlfriend? You know, it's just it's just a damno. 1:29:27.880 --> 1:29:29.880 Let me take a shot for that one. I wasn't. 1:29:30.400 --> 1:29:32.720 I wasn't ready for that. But I think it's to 1:29:32.800 --> 1:29:33.280 be studied. 1:29:34.200 --> 1:29:36.160 I think it's definitely gonna be studied as a as 1:29:36.200 --> 1:29:39.000 a writer, as a as somebody who like has been 1:29:39.160 --> 1:29:42.200 more instrumental writing wise, Like I've been studying different types 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:44.320 of records, and I think it's still a record to. 1:29:44.320 --> 1:29:47.040 Be studied in terms of the simplicity and it's impact. 1:29:47.680 --> 1:29:50.960 You know what I'm saying. I love you as it's 1:29:52.920 --> 1:30:01.479 just a classic, bro, It's an omnipresent, spiritual How many 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:03.479 times do you perform it that? Like, do you before 1:30:03.680 --> 1:30:05.920 more than once? Or you just do? I mean like 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:10.280 like yeah, yeah, like bring it back, like like yeah 1:30:10.360 --> 1:30:13.639 it's twice, okay, twice I do one with the record. 1:30:13.439 --> 1:30:17.560 In one agapella. Yeah, that's usually how it happens. And 1:30:17.600 --> 1:30:19.439 that's when the girls go yeah. 1:30:20.240 --> 1:30:22.519 That's when that's when the umbilical court is like. 1:30:29.680 --> 1:30:33.559 Yeah, no, no, that is a real yeah, like it's 1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:36.679 a real universal record, like like it's a global record. 1:30:37.040 --> 1:30:39.160 I don't think I'm gonna be honest with you, Yeah, 1:30:39.360 --> 1:30:42.840 I don't think that record will never die. Every day 1:30:43.040 --> 1:30:46.120 such a blessing because there's someone somewhere that's always to 1:30:46.280 --> 1:30:46.960 let you love them. 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:49.479 You know what I'm saying. Everywhere, like no matter. 1:30:49.360 --> 1:30:52.040 What, you don't know, you need love even you know 1:30:52.160 --> 1:30:57.120 you want it. It's crazy, man, it's I never get 1:30:57.160 --> 1:30:59.840 tired of performing it. I never get tired of seeing 1:30:59.840 --> 1:31:03.960 people like in that space, like no matter what they're 1:31:03.960 --> 1:31:08.040 going through, I've seen, bro, I've been in the biggest 1:31:08.080 --> 1:31:12.120 audiences in the world. I've been in Southern clubs with 1:31:14.160 --> 1:31:16.880 just dark energy, you know what I'm saying. 1:31:17.160 --> 1:31:20.200 And he's still sing seeing like gangster singing the record 1:31:20.320 --> 1:31:21.120 like you still sing. 1:31:22.720 --> 1:31:22.880 You know. 1:31:23.120 --> 1:31:27.200 It's just like love is universal, bro, It's like you 1:31:27.280 --> 1:31:29.479 can't even change, like it's just it's and it's crazy 1:31:29.520 --> 1:31:34.320 because you like, at times, there was a time as 1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:35.560 an R and B artist when you look at the 1:31:35.680 --> 1:31:37.519 charge and you look at the things like damn ducking 1:31:37.520 --> 1:31:37.920 with R and B. 1:31:38.080 --> 1:31:42.000 No more like shit dark out here for us? Why 1:31:42.040 --> 1:31:45.599 the numbers looking like this? Why they offered me only 1:31:46.320 --> 1:31:48.679 for the show? What the fuck is going on? Because 1:31:48.720 --> 1:31:50.200 hip hop is just going so crazy. 1:31:50.320 --> 1:31:52.519 Niggas ain't want to come out, like you know, and 1:31:52.600 --> 1:31:54.320 even if they didn't want to come out, the promoters 1:31:54.360 --> 1:31:54.960 didn't want. 1:31:54.840 --> 1:31:58.360 To pay you for you know what you deserve, you 1:31:58.360 --> 1:31:59.920 know what I'm saying. But like now, this is just 1:32:00.160 --> 1:32:00.719 it's different. 1:32:01.439 --> 1:32:03.559 R and B is like respected again and it's back, 1:32:03.600 --> 1:32:06.320 and it's just you know, I think it's records like 1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:08.000 let Me Love You. That's a part of the reason 1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:10.120 why R and B still love because they still play 1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:11.320 it on mainslaand radio today. 1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:13.320 They still one of the few. 1:32:13.200 --> 1:32:17.320 That they still champion and be proud to play without 1:32:17.400 --> 1:32:18.120 the red tape, you. 1:32:18.120 --> 1:32:19.479 Know what I'm saying, And that's a blessing. I have 1:32:19.640 --> 1:32:21.439 one of those records because not. 1:32:21.479 --> 1:32:23.760 Everybody has that, you know what I'm saying, Especially for 1:32:23.880 --> 1:32:28.240 my my, you know my when I first came out, 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:29.640 like the artists that came out when I came out. 1:32:30.400 --> 1:32:32.800 But you know, I don't plan on stopping anytime soon, bro, 1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:35.479 Like this I was I was meant for this I 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:38.680 was meant for, you know, the resilience that it take 1:32:38.760 --> 1:32:39.360 to be an artist. 1:32:40.200 --> 1:32:43.320 You know, everything that I grew up seeing and been 1:32:43.400 --> 1:32:47.240 through all that. It just it made me a soldier 1:32:48.240 --> 1:32:53.559 for you know, fighting through whatever it takes to keep 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:56.160 your your train moving. You know what I'm saying. You 1:32:56.240 --> 1:32:57.800 got to keep it moving, you know what I mean. 1:32:57.880 --> 1:33:04.040 And obviously those records are a superpower, but the new 1:33:04.120 --> 1:33:09.640 music and having you know, just having the platform and 1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:10.759 having the talent. 1:33:12.600 --> 1:33:15.200 You know, let me tell you through, I used to 1:33:15.200 --> 1:33:17.679 have seen that record still and it's like getting those 1:33:17.720 --> 1:33:19.880 notes some nice is harder than others. 1:33:20.439 --> 1:33:20.880 But it's like. 1:33:23.040 --> 1:33:25.519 I still feel like when I first heard the record, 1:33:25.560 --> 1:33:27.280 I still feel like when I first singing in the studio, 1:33:27.280 --> 1:33:30.800 I still feel at that love for it is still there, 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:32.680 and I'm like, Damn, through everything I've been through, I 1:33:32.760 --> 1:33:33.560 still have to love for it. 1:33:33.640 --> 1:33:36.280 That's all God, bro, Because sometimes you can not, like 1:33:36.400 --> 1:33:38.160 you know, you're getting numb, Like certain points, you're just 1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:40.840 getting numbing. You're just going through. How many buns, nigga, 1:33:41.560 --> 1:33:44.160 how many bunks you got right there? You're still going, 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:45.479 it's still going, still going. 1:33:46.800 --> 1:33:50.720 Still In the role you play as an artist now 1:33:51.280 --> 1:33:53.400 then up and coming artist and they want to redo it, 1:33:53.479 --> 1:33:54.760 is that untouchable. 1:33:55.320 --> 1:34:00.439 If they want to redo the record particular, or doesn't 1:34:00.439 --> 1:34:01.880 sing it over a redoor, doesn't use the. 1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:05.160 I think any classic is kind of untouchable in general. 1:34:05.840 --> 1:34:10.280 But you can, you know, it's like it's like a young. 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:14.400 If you you know, when you date somebody and then 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:16.800 you might like five years later, y'all might have a 1:34:16.840 --> 1:34:19.479 little moment be like it ain't the same, but it's 1:34:19.520 --> 1:34:20.840 still you remember it. 1:34:21.080 --> 1:34:23.280 It's like this ship he was my little love and 1:34:23.320 --> 1:34:25.960 respect that wants to honor you and do that track. 1:34:26.000 --> 1:34:28.800 You know you're not the same. It's never gonna be 1:34:28.800 --> 1:34:31.080 the same. But I think that's the beautiful part about 1:34:31.120 --> 1:34:31.759 making classics. 1:34:31.760 --> 1:34:31.880 Bro. 1:34:32.040 --> 1:34:35.320 The whole point is like, don't touch it. No, no, no, Like, 1:34:35.479 --> 1:34:38.120 if it's done right, it can be a moment for 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:40.760 this generation. Bro, Like I'm not like that's my record, 1:34:40.840 --> 1:34:42.559 but if it's done right, if it's done right. 1:34:43.640 --> 1:34:47.519 I've had at least fifty to seventy artists over the 1:34:47.560 --> 1:34:48.920 course of my career hit me to be like, yo, 1:34:48.960 --> 1:34:51.720 I want you to redo this during woman like no, 1:34:53.840 --> 1:34:56.960 good man, it's got to be it's got to be. 1:34:57.000 --> 1:35:00.360 The right and maybe it doesn't need it, who knows. 1:35:00.680 --> 1:35:02.439 But let me tell you the beauty about that record. 1:35:02.600 --> 1:35:06.680 Like, uh, you know, most of the time when it's 1:35:06.720 --> 1:35:08.920 a hit record, you know, R and B, you know, 1:35:09.200 --> 1:35:12.760 the females claim it, and you know, the females claim 1:35:12.800 --> 1:35:14.840 it like they claim like this is their record. You 1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:17.560 hardly ever get to see like guys step up and 1:35:17.640 --> 1:35:18.960 be like I like this record. 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:19.960 I'm fun with this record. 1:35:20.160 --> 1:35:21.880 That's kind of like the first record that I've ever 1:35:21.960 --> 1:35:30.240 seen like dogs but like everything and everything, like like 1:35:30.360 --> 1:35:32.519 that's the first time I'm kind of seen guys claim 1:35:32.600 --> 1:35:34.479 it like you know what I mean, like like and 1:35:34.720 --> 1:35:40.000 and and except their vulnerability except there, uh what Ralph 1:35:40.400 --> 1:35:43.600 transmits their sensitivity, you know what I'm saying. Accept that, 1:35:43.840 --> 1:35:47.559 like but claim it though, Like you know, that's why 1:35:47.640 --> 1:35:49.080 this record is very very special. 1:35:50.240 --> 1:35:53.920 It's because it's toxic at the root of it. Love 1:35:54.080 --> 1:36:01.400 is toxic. Okay, Okay, the record she forgot that far 1:36:02.880 --> 1:36:07.360 forgot no, but this is. But it's you know, it's 1:36:07.400 --> 1:36:08.760 in love with a little bit of Texas City. 1:36:09.479 --> 1:36:11.479 It's like but it's like I don't know, if you 1:36:11.880 --> 1:36:15.360 it depends on where they're at, you know, in the relationships, 1:36:15.400 --> 1:36:19.080 like you know, mm hmm, yeah, you don't believe his stories. 1:36:19.080 --> 1:36:20.000 You know that they're all lives. 1:36:20.040 --> 1:36:22.840 It's like you catch on her when she's weak, when 1:36:22.880 --> 1:36:24.400 he out of town, even fucked up. 1:36:25.720 --> 1:36:25.880 You know. 1:36:26.040 --> 1:36:28.639 It's like women are interesting creatures. Man. 1:36:28.680 --> 1:36:32.320 I don't know, bro, because like you know, a good 1:36:32.360 --> 1:36:35.160 woman right when she's locked in with her dude all 1:36:35.200 --> 1:36:37.400 the way, she might entertain some ship. 1:36:38.680 --> 1:36:40.240 Some of y'all, some of the lad's gonna look at 1:36:40.280 --> 1:36:41.760 this and be like, now that's not true. A good 1:36:41.760 --> 1:36:45.120 woman will never entertain way. 1:36:46.040 --> 1:36:52.040 It's like her level of entertaining maybe responding back to 1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:54.080 a text that she been the North for fucking. 1:36:53.840 --> 1:36:57.040 The whole year, niggah. Where So another level of. 1:36:57.160 --> 1:36:59.680 Entertaining from a woman could be going out to meet 1:36:59.680 --> 1:37:02.840 the nigg at a gas station. Who knows, right, but 1:37:02.920 --> 1:37:06.160 I'm saying that let me love you the conversation versus 1:37:06.240 --> 1:37:08.160 for those moments when a nigga sucking up in a. 1:37:08.160 --> 1:37:12.280 Relationship or he's just not as president. 1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:18.800 And you you know, was sucking up and like that 1:37:18.960 --> 1:37:22.360 nigga that she's been ghosting for the last six months, 1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:23.479 he slided in for a second. 1:37:29.720 --> 1:37:41.000 Yeah, yeah, whatever, right, you know you you're talking about 1:37:41.000 --> 1:37:41.879 two different scenarios. 1:37:42.760 --> 1:37:46.080 Say, yeah, but yeah, it's that whatever scenario it is, 1:37:47.040 --> 1:37:51.120 it's that little quick space where it's like she might 1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:54.200 do something she wouldn't normally do. You should let me 1:37:54.280 --> 1:37:57.599 love you, right, Or it's just simple like everybody interpret 1:37:57.840 --> 1:38:00.320 interpret music different. It could be a girl that's single, 1:38:01.040 --> 1:38:04.320 that she's been celibrated for whole year. She finally meet 1:38:04.439 --> 1:38:06.280 one out of the hundred guys to try to talk 1:38:06.320 --> 1:38:09.240 to her. It's like, like, what's up, Like like she 1:38:09.439 --> 1:38:12.000 might that he might get that chance, right, you know. 1:38:12.120 --> 1:38:14.640 So it's our relative. It's just that's what makes the 1:38:14.680 --> 1:38:17.160 record crazy. Bro, just represents it can fit in so 1:38:17.280 --> 1:38:21.639 many scenarios. Yeah, but the hook is so universal universe 1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:26.240 it goes good. Bro, you ain't a different type of 1:38:26.320 --> 1:38:30.519 niggas man. Yeah all right, man celebrating like Mario Man. 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:33.519 Shout out to the whole squad. We celebrated you tonight. Bro. 1:38:36.200 --> 1:38:39.720 Yeah some properly thank you brother. You don't want to 1:38:39.760 --> 1:38:42.920 continue to do and we got some more joints. Yeah 1:38:43.720 --> 1:38:44.040 all right. 1:38:45.600 --> 1:38:48.760 As far as like bar for Bar, you wanted the 1:38:48.840 --> 1:38:52.120 top two in New York, Bro, Bar for Bar, Jada 1:38:52.200 --> 1:38:54.000 Kiss for Sure who the other one that in there? 1:38:54.080 --> 1:38:57.240 Bro, I don't even know who the other one is yet. 1:38:57.960 --> 1:39:00.200 I don't know. But Jay's top two bro bar for bar, 1:39:00.400 --> 1:39:02.840 top two in New York and New York like his 1:39:03.080 --> 1:39:07.240 his you know, maybe top top three, top three, top three, 1:39:07.360 --> 1:39:10.280 give me that space. But yeah, Jada, that's my nigga. Bro. 1:39:11.760 --> 1:39:16.280 Yeah, somebody else speaks for a Nicki Minaj? How did 1:39:16.320 --> 1:39:19.760 that come about? That's when she was like first thought, 1:39:19.760 --> 1:39:20.559 bubbling correct. 1:39:21.800 --> 1:39:26.400 She was already lit. Okay, you know. 1:39:28.640 --> 1:39:31.360 This is I was in Atlanta, I was working on 1:39:31.880 --> 1:39:35.120 I was in between albums, and again, I'm always looking 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:38.760 for records to like kind of reinvent my conversation. If 1:39:38.800 --> 1:39:40.880 you look at my catalog, you'll you'll hear just like 1:39:41.200 --> 1:39:46.720 different conversations throughout my career. Tapped in with Polo when 1:39:46.760 --> 1:39:51.760 to see him. He played me this record. I got 1:39:51.800 --> 1:39:53.760 it off the bat. I'm like, okay, And this was 1:39:53.800 --> 1:39:57.360 a time where I was looking to really reconstruct my 1:39:57.439 --> 1:40:01.719 relationship and internally with RCA, like from a creative control aspect, 1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:04.840 and I brought this record to the table. 1:40:07.240 --> 1:40:10.519 We recorded a record Atlanta with Polo. I send it 1:40:10.560 --> 1:40:15.240 to Nikki. She loved it all. Top okay, Mark nah 1:40:16.240 --> 1:40:20.800 and said it. Yeah, we sent it to her. She 1:40:20.880 --> 1:40:23.200 sent the record back in like two three days. She 1:40:23.320 --> 1:40:25.160 loved it one. You know, when Nikki loved the record, 1:40:25.280 --> 1:40:29.960 she she would with her she don't but Bro, it 1:40:30.040 --> 1:40:32.559 was this was. Yeah, it's my first time working with Nikki. Yeah, 1:40:32.640 --> 1:40:34.400 first time, and. 1:40:35.920 --> 1:40:37.800 I felt like the record had a very like it 1:40:37.920 --> 1:40:40.960 just had it had a special conversation in it in 1:40:41.120 --> 1:40:47.160 terms of the lyric, but also energetically and production wise. 1:40:47.200 --> 1:40:49.360 It just it was grungy, but it was also soulful. 1:40:50.479 --> 1:40:51.840 And I'm like, yo, I need it. I want to 1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:54.320 put a female on this record because I feel like 1:40:54.360 --> 1:40:56.640 it's not enough conversations, you know what I mean with 1:40:56.720 --> 1:41:00.120 females and males. It's like classic moments. I said a 1:41:00.160 --> 1:41:02.200 big vision for this record, like huge vision. I had 1:41:02.200 --> 1:41:05.160 the video treatment, done everything done for it, you know. 1:41:06.720 --> 1:41:09.560 And this moment was really the moment that made me 1:41:09.800 --> 1:41:13.439 turn away from like major labels at that time because 1:41:14.160 --> 1:41:14.800 they didn't get it. 1:41:15.760 --> 1:41:17.960 Your label, her label, My label didn't get it at 1:41:18.000 --> 1:41:20.720 the time. And I'm like, Yo, this record is so 1:41:20.920 --> 1:41:26.320 timeless and it's so special, you know. And yeah, bro, 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:28.720 but Nikki came through. Bro. She she killed it. 1:41:28.920 --> 1:41:31.360 And you know, the video that we put out wasn't 1:41:31.360 --> 1:41:33.360 even my concept like that. The video that came out 1:41:33.560 --> 1:41:35.920 was completely different from the concept I had for the 1:41:36.000 --> 1:41:38.280 video and what I wrote for the treatment, because I 1:41:38.360 --> 1:41:40.120 knew that me and her being on a record at 1:41:40.160 --> 1:41:44.160 that time was visually it was important. Everything, the whole 1:41:44.400 --> 1:41:47.560 everything was was super important. So you know, it was 1:41:47.600 --> 1:41:49.560 just one of those moments that and that was the 1:41:49.600 --> 1:41:52.000 last record I put out with RCAA before were independent. 1:41:53.120 --> 1:41:57.880 You know, I literally asked to go independent after that. 1:41:58.400 --> 1:42:01.280 It was one of those moment I just felt like 1:42:01.320 --> 1:42:05.120 it was these type of moments just just don't these 1:42:05.160 --> 1:42:05.960 type of alignments. 1:42:06.080 --> 1:42:08.320 It's like, you know, when the planet line up, but 1:42:08.479 --> 1:42:10.960 the planet, you know, it's like those those things just 1:42:11.000 --> 1:42:11.479 don't happen. 1:42:12.120 --> 1:42:14.320 As artists, we're like different solar systems, and shit, we 1:42:14.360 --> 1:42:15.719 got so much energy moving around. 1:42:15.760 --> 1:42:17.160 It's like not to put us on light. 1:42:17.280 --> 1:42:20.360 But like when planets aligned, you got to respect that 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:23.360 and like put it in perspective and understand what's happening, 1:42:24.360 --> 1:42:24.519 you know. 1:42:24.960 --> 1:42:26.560 And so it was one of those moments where I 1:42:26.640 --> 1:42:28.200 was like, I bet, like I need to I need 1:42:28.240 --> 1:42:30.960 to be able to move how I need to move yeah, 1:42:31.960 --> 1:42:34.439 but none of nevertheand like it's still a special Records, 1:42:34.439 --> 1:42:35.640 still incredible. 1:42:35.200 --> 1:42:38.560 But the impact could have been way bigger than what 1:42:38.680 --> 1:42:40.080 it was, and still to this day is still one 1:42:40.080 --> 1:42:40.400 of the ones. 1:42:40.439 --> 1:42:41.800 I still got it in my show for sure. 1:42:43.040 --> 1:42:48.639 Speaking of being independent, you've been around both era physical copy, 1:42:49.000 --> 1:42:49.960 yeah and streaming. 1:42:50.040 --> 1:42:55.160 What do you think about streaming today? What do I 1:42:55.240 --> 1:43:01.719 think about it? It's if I was in a room 1:43:04.600 --> 1:43:05.200 on both sides. 1:43:05.200 --> 1:43:07.840 I feel like there's one side whereas like the people 1:43:07.880 --> 1:43:10.320 that don't make the music, it's like, oh, yeah, how 1:43:10.360 --> 1:43:12.000 can we eat off of the shit on another level 1:43:12.680 --> 1:43:15.240 before anybody else? And then there's another side that's saying, like, yo, 1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:18.639 how can we protect ourselves from them eating off our shit? 1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:20.880 If I was in this room over here when they like, 1:43:20.960 --> 1:43:23.600 I wish I was in that room amongst that conversation. 1:43:24.360 --> 1:43:30.000 It's just like, bro, I don't know what happened. I 1:43:30.120 --> 1:43:32.479 wasn't in neither one of those rooms. But I wish 1:43:32.560 --> 1:43:37.559 that we would have won the battle from streaming. Yes, 1:43:37.960 --> 1:43:40.040 I wish that we would have won the battle, but 1:43:40.160 --> 1:43:42.280 I feel like we will in the future. I wish 1:43:42.320 --> 1:43:45.000 that we would have won the battle as artists, as 1:43:45.600 --> 1:43:51.120 see as entrepreneurs as people who you know, influence the game, 1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:56.560 influenced the culture. You know, I wish I would I 1:43:56.600 --> 1:43:58.479 would have had the mindset I have, but with the 1:43:58.560 --> 1:44:02.400 power to make the moves back then. Hm, because my 1:44:02.479 --> 1:44:08.360 mindset is global. My mindset is you know, freedom, generational wealth. 1:44:08.479 --> 1:44:11.280 But I didn't have the power to make those types 1:44:11.280 --> 1:44:13.120 of moves. But I know somebody did and it maybe 1:44:13.160 --> 1:44:16.879 it didn't work, but uh, you know, streaming is obviously 1:44:16.960 --> 1:44:19.960 it's something that it's not affects a lot of us. 1:44:20.200 --> 1:44:22.599 Artist It's not in the artist favorite at the moment. 1:44:24.640 --> 1:44:26.880 I don't think it is like even if for independent artists, 1:44:26.880 --> 1:44:27.439 I don't think. 1:44:27.320 --> 1:44:29.599 It is bro cast. It costs too much. 1:44:29.920 --> 1:44:32.240 And this because then you have all the other agencies 1:44:32.280 --> 1:44:35.240 that like became popular. You know, you got like three 1:44:35.320 --> 1:44:37.080 four steps of people that are eating off of you 1:44:37.160 --> 1:44:37.920 putting out a record. 1:44:37.960 --> 1:44:38.519 You know what I'm saying. 1:44:38.520 --> 1:44:40.280 You got all this shit behind the scenes, you got 1:44:40.280 --> 1:44:43.559 all of the agencies and marketing. Like it's just it's 1:44:43.680 --> 1:44:45.760 it created a lot of ways for other people to 1:44:45.840 --> 1:44:49.320 make more money than the artists sometimes make in a sense, 1:44:49.360 --> 1:44:51.880 you know what I'm saying. So some artists, not all arts, 1:44:52.560 --> 1:44:55.479 but you know, the blessing of having like a catalog 1:44:55.640 --> 1:44:58.639 is different because I rather I stream one hundred million 1:44:58.720 --> 1:45:00.200 on the album or not. I still go out and 1:45:00.280 --> 1:45:05.439 tour relevancy is more important than sometimes the streams. If 1:45:05.479 --> 1:45:07.840 you're working and you're moving and you're making the right moves, 1:45:07.920 --> 1:45:09.960 you can still make incredible money. 1:45:10.240 --> 1:45:10.880 That's not the thing. 1:45:11.240 --> 1:45:12.960 But in terms of like fairness or streaming, because you 1:45:13.000 --> 1:45:16.639 asked me about streaming, it's unfair. It's unfair, bro, It's 1:45:16.720 --> 1:45:20.840 raping the game. They raping the game. They for years, 1:45:21.479 --> 1:45:24.599 you know, but I feel like it's going to turn around. 1:45:25.280 --> 1:45:27.920 And then when they turn around, all those companies that 1:45:28.120 --> 1:45:31.599 work a lot of people's publishing and all that ship 1:45:31.640 --> 1:45:34.400 they about to eat crazy and hopefully you kept some 1:45:34.520 --> 1:45:36.280 of it so we can eat. 1:45:38.120 --> 1:45:39.519 So God comes down from earth. 1:45:41.400 --> 1:45:45.719 God did come down. He came down from leaving. Yeah, 1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:51.439 and he said, Mario, you need to make one record, 1:45:54.120 --> 1:45:55.000 save humanity. 1:45:56.520 --> 1:45:57.120 One record. 1:45:58.520 --> 1:46:00.839 I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you one producer. 1:46:01.960 --> 1:46:08.040 We're gonna give you one artist. Damn, Okay, who is 1:46:08.120 --> 1:46:08.599 you picking? 1:46:09.880 --> 1:46:10.040 Dead? 1:46:10.040 --> 1:46:15.840 Are alive? That's the part I was. You're very shocked. 1:46:17.040 --> 1:46:17.479 You can have that. 1:46:17.800 --> 1:46:30.040 I'll give you that, yes, run record Quincy Jones. I'm 1:46:30.080 --> 1:46:33.719 glad for sure. I said one artist, I want a writer. 1:46:33.680 --> 1:46:36.679 Yeah, one artist and one producer, my artist and one producer, 1:46:37.080 --> 1:46:37.880 Quincy Jones. 1:46:41.160 --> 1:46:43.080 You can have a writer too if you want, you gotta. 1:46:43.640 --> 1:46:47.559 You can have a writer to need Quincy Jones as 1:46:47.680 --> 1:46:57.320 production as production Quincy Jones. And I'm gonna say, damn, 1:46:57.720 --> 1:46:59.920 the feature of the writer. And I'm gonna go all 1:47:00.000 --> 1:47:03.960 I'm gonna go to artists and artists Jones and then 1:47:08.360 --> 1:47:10.920 Quincy Jones. Steze want that? 1:47:15.000 --> 1:47:15.120 Now? 1:47:15.280 --> 1:47:15.519 I know. 1:47:19.479 --> 1:47:24.360 It could be Marven two honestly, look because yeah, but 1:47:24.360 --> 1:47:28.479 I'm gonna go Stevie Quincy Stevie, and then you got 1:47:28.560 --> 1:47:38.000 to write her now mm hmm, I'm gonna go Marvin 1:47:38.120 --> 1:47:46.040 is the writer. Yeah, Steve bar sounds like it hit 1:47:46.120 --> 1:47:50.120 to be folks. Yeah, yeah, Stevie. 1:47:50.479 --> 1:47:52.400 So you ain't get another shot. Don't get another shot. 1:47:54.040 --> 1:47:58.120 You just say humanity, what I'm saying, we got you know, 1:47:59.000 --> 1:48:03.160 why would we just think? God damn shut shut? So 1:48:03.880 --> 1:48:11.240 So let me ask you, and boy is there If 1:48:11.280 --> 1:48:16.360 I was ever asked this question back then, I wouldn't 1:48:16.360 --> 1:48:19.040 know how to answer it, right. But you know, as 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:21.360 I'm mature, and you know, I got to different levels 1:48:21.400 --> 1:48:24.080 in life. I realized that this is this, this question 1:48:24.120 --> 1:48:26.479 that I'm about to ask you. I have a lot 1:48:26.560 --> 1:48:29.519 of different answers to this. Is there every anything that 1:48:29.680 --> 1:48:32.240 you wish you you could have did better or like 1:48:32.520 --> 1:48:32.920 didn't do? 1:48:33.680 --> 1:48:35.479 Like you know what I mean? Like, all right, let 1:48:35.520 --> 1:48:36.760 me just let me break it down for you a 1:48:36.800 --> 1:48:37.200 little bit. 1:48:37.320 --> 1:48:40.400 Yeah, all of us coming from the hood at one point, 1:48:40.880 --> 1:48:43.439 we don't think our ship thinks once we start making 1:48:44.000 --> 1:48:47.080 a certain level, right, certain vel and even your friends 1:48:47.160 --> 1:48:50.200 sometimes your friends can kind of tell you, but they're 1:48:50.240 --> 1:48:54.080 not living what you're going through, right, So all of 1:48:54.200 --> 1:48:57.760 us kind of like goes through a certain process that 1:48:57.880 --> 1:49:00.160 we have to kind of learn. Is there anything thing 1:49:00.280 --> 1:49:03.400 that you ever did? But like there's so many things, 1:49:03.520 --> 1:49:09.439 Like for instance, like I'm in the airport with friends 1:49:09.479 --> 1:49:13.960 Tata and says to me, Man, I want I want 1:49:14.000 --> 1:49:17.160 this this girl to do a remix for your for 1:49:17.280 --> 1:49:22.960 your song. I was like yeah, and it's like, yeah, 1:49:23.000 --> 1:49:24.760 don't worry about it. If we just give thirteen grand, 1:49:24.800 --> 1:49:25.439 it should be good. 1:49:25.800 --> 1:49:28.320 And I was like thirteen grand and I was like, no, 1:49:28.479 --> 1:49:30.599 I'm not kidding this. Fifteen grand. You know that girl 1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:43.720 winds up being Rihanna. Yeah, I'm laughing because I know 1:49:43.960 --> 1:49:46.679 how you probably felt. But yeah, like what I'm saying 1:49:46.680 --> 1:49:48.360 is you ever been in your own bag where you're 1:49:48.360 --> 1:49:50.320 sucking up your own bag that much. 1:49:53.000 --> 1:49:54.679 I've probably been in there a couple of times, don't 1:49:54.720 --> 1:49:58.200 know even no aboudty but two yeah, like bro for sure. 1:50:00.080 --> 1:50:05.200 I was. I was living in Jersey at the time. 1:50:06.240 --> 1:50:09.559 Around the time Just a Friend came out, Jay had 1:50:09.640 --> 1:50:11.360 like two shows in Madison Square Garden. 1:50:12.040 --> 1:50:15.000 We said, Jay z okay, yes, and. 1:50:17.240 --> 1:50:19.680 He wanted me to come out on the set and 1:50:19.760 --> 1:50:23.160 would meet me and all that and how whatever. And 1:50:23.280 --> 1:50:25.160 at the time I was I was dating this girl 1:50:25.800 --> 1:50:29.320 in Jersey and the night that they wanted me to 1:50:29.360 --> 1:50:35.640 come out, I had already had plans for her. So 1:50:36.080 --> 1:50:38.320 at the time I managed to hit me like, yo, look, 1:50:38.400 --> 1:50:39.960 you gotta put the s on Jay. 1:50:39.880 --> 1:50:43.840 When you come out. I was like, I can't. 1:50:46.439 --> 1:50:50.479 Is this massive square? It's massive Square? Just a Friend 1:50:50.560 --> 1:50:55.439 is out moving. I just came up promo to so 1:50:55.600 --> 1:50:59.200 you know, I met something, you know, the Minican Puerto 1:50:59.240 --> 1:51:03.960 Rican Vibes type ship Washington Heights Energy but. 1:51:04.000 --> 1:51:16.720 In Jersey though, Jersey just the himporter again yeah, help 1:51:16.760 --> 1:51:20.160 you out. Yeah, appreciate you. But like so, yeah, and 1:51:20.560 --> 1:51:23.879 I passed up on that, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, bro, yeah. 1:51:24.200 --> 1:51:26.240 And it was it was you know, I don't know 1:51:26.320 --> 1:51:27.960 if Jay took that some type of way, you know, 1:51:28.080 --> 1:51:31.920 But I was young. I was young, young bro, having fun. 1:51:32.120 --> 1:51:35.479 But yeah, and certain things, but like I don't know, 1:51:37.000 --> 1:51:44.120 I never got an invite that might be it. I 1:51:44.200 --> 1:51:52.080 think that's the time. Yeah, that was one been a couple, bro, Yeah, 1:51:52.920 --> 1:51:54.960 I was. I was. I was wild when I was younger. 1:51:55.000 --> 1:51:55.080 Bro. 1:51:55.520 --> 1:51:58.280 I was just I didn't care as much I was 1:51:58.360 --> 1:51:59.240 youm bro, I was. 1:51:59.320 --> 1:52:01.160 I had a great I had I was having a 1:52:01.200 --> 1:52:03.240 good time. I was a young artist, you know. But 1:52:03.360 --> 1:52:05.439 I wasn't aware of my power at the time. I 1:52:05.520 --> 1:52:07.640 wasn't aware of who I was in the world. I 1:52:07.680 --> 1:52:09.360 didn't know, you know what I'm saying. 1:52:09.439 --> 1:52:10.960 I didn't know. I made a lot of mistakes, you 1:52:11.040 --> 1:52:11.559 know what I'm saying. 1:52:12.240 --> 1:52:14.760 And uh, sometimes those things do haunt you behind the 1:52:14.760 --> 1:52:17.040 scenes and you don't know, and you know that right 1:52:17.360 --> 1:52:18.599 of course, maybe it does. 1:52:19.040 --> 1:52:20.840 All I know is I learned from my mistakes. I 1:52:20.920 --> 1:52:24.080 keep it moving and I just I'm never stopping what 1:52:24.240 --> 1:52:28.040 I do you know, but you know living you learn, bro. Yes, 1:52:28.479 --> 1:52:33.080 I'm gonna take a shot. Yeah, no, no, no, bro, listen, 1:52:33.520 --> 1:52:35.799 you know, look look at literally. 1:52:35.880 --> 1:52:39.760 This look look look respect for ja. 1:52:39.840 --> 1:52:41.920 Yeah yeah, look at look at that. That's that's that, 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:43.920 that's that socking it. 1:52:43.960 --> 1:52:46.960 Wait, let me let me move over from this. Uh okay, 1:52:47.840 --> 1:52:49.479 I know how to deal with this later. I can 1:52:49.520 --> 1:52:51.519 deal with those thements all but let me uh you 1:52:51.600 --> 1:52:52.120 were trying to. 1:52:52.120 --> 1:52:57.560 Sack you real quick. Let mean what you talking? What 1:52:57.640 --> 1:52:59.760 you got going on over there? I mean, I know 1:52:59.840 --> 1:53:02.040 you drink, how you deal with this, what you're doing 1:53:02.120 --> 1:53:08.400 for your liver? Whist told me what your living people, 1:53:08.720 --> 1:53:13.680 I'm fucked up. But Rizza said, there's only two alcohols 1:53:13.760 --> 1:53:15.280 that's uppers. Mm hmm. 1:53:15.800 --> 1:53:20.400 It's the killer and sockey. Everything else is down this. 1:53:21.080 --> 1:53:23.120 So since you said that, I kind of like makes 1:53:23.160 --> 1:53:26.280 sense to me. Not for sure, I've been like kind 1:53:26.320 --> 1:53:33.360 of like fuck it. Okay, yeah all right. 1:53:33.439 --> 1:53:37.280 Now, by the way, it's an upper. It's like, yeah, 1:53:37.360 --> 1:53:40.320 it's lighter, yeah, lighter, it's lighter. It's like it's still 1:53:40.520 --> 1:53:43.080 it's still good there. Yeah, if you drink enough. 1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:45.720 Of them, right, yeah, And these motherfuckers drinking my ship 1:53:45.760 --> 1:53:50.320 over there. They thought I ain't see them, but I 1:53:50.520 --> 1:53:50.880 chose you. 1:53:51.479 --> 1:53:55.200 I choose you. Okay, yes, yes, let's talk about that. 1:53:55.439 --> 1:53:58.439 This is Babyface introducing me to writing in a different way. Man, 1:53:58.520 --> 1:54:07.639 shout out to Babyface. Man, we work show. 1:54:08.640 --> 1:54:12.400 Baby Face is one of the most simple, Like he 1:54:12.640 --> 1:54:15.479 makes writing sound so simple, but he has over one 1:54:15.600 --> 1:54:16.840 hundred hits, number one hits. 1:54:17.320 --> 1:54:20.960 So it's like I'm asking him questions like, Okay, what 1:54:21.120 --> 1:54:21.559 makes it hit? 1:54:22.000 --> 1:54:24.880 He's keeping it so simple and talking about just the 1:54:25.760 --> 1:54:29.400 simplicity of having a conversation. But then when you see 1:54:29.439 --> 1:54:32.640 him do it, it's like, I think, because of how 1:54:32.680 --> 1:54:36.000 I think, I make it more intricate the way I 1:54:36.080 --> 1:54:38.360 write sometimes, especially on this new album, but like now 1:54:38.400 --> 1:54:43.480 I'm trying to adopt this conversational aspect of writing, because 1:54:43.480 --> 1:54:46.840 writing music is of course, once you get a song written, 1:54:46.840 --> 1:54:50.240 you want to perfect the unit, dude, But it's as simple. 1:54:50.040 --> 1:54:50.959 As having a conversation. 1:54:51.680 --> 1:54:54.440 The best records are you can write the lyrics down 1:54:54.960 --> 1:54:57.640 and read them and it just looks like a conversation. 1:54:58.720 --> 1:55:01.040 But in the studio, with life, you deal with your 1:55:01.080 --> 1:55:04.640 own thoughts. So you got to kind of like you 1:55:04.720 --> 1:55:06.560 gotta yourself in, like. 1:55:08.240 --> 1:55:09.800 You know, you got to open up your mind and 1:55:09.880 --> 1:55:13.160 open up a pathway where it's like, Okay, if I 1:55:13.320 --> 1:55:17.040 was just a normal person, how would I have this 1:55:17.160 --> 1:55:19.400 conversation but then still be genius at the same time. 1:55:20.080 --> 1:55:24.000 So I feel like being an artist. Babyface Master kind 1:55:24.040 --> 1:55:26.560 of like that space Bro. I work with him on 1:55:27.040 --> 1:55:29.760 I Shoose You played. He produced and helped produce it, 1:55:30.080 --> 1:55:32.440 play the guitar on it, and help write the record. 1:55:32.760 --> 1:55:34.640 We work the record in the studio together, Bro, and 1:55:34.760 --> 1:55:37.160 it was just it was one of the best essons 1:55:37.160 --> 1:55:38.560 I've ever had, Bro in terms of R and B. 1:55:40.480 --> 1:55:41.520 And just how easy he. 1:55:44.200 --> 1:55:47.000 Made the process, how funny it was, how easy the 1:55:47.080 --> 1:55:49.360 process was to actually creating a record like I Choose 1:55:49.440 --> 1:55:52.320 You and he just got He's got a gift that 1:55:52.440 --> 1:55:53.960 I feel like, you know what. 1:55:54.080 --> 1:55:55.800 Neo reminds me of that in some ways. 1:55:56.320 --> 1:55:58.400 The way he approached writing music and be honest like 1:55:58.480 --> 1:56:01.200 he kind of is like our generation of what Babyface 1:56:01.320 --> 1:56:04.760 was doing. Always tell him that because this is super simple. 1:56:05.600 --> 1:56:08.640 He writes the records that are conversations, you know what 1:56:08.680 --> 1:56:10.640 I'm saying. But baby Face, I think he was more 1:56:10.760 --> 1:56:14.480 romantic in his approach, which is why I choose. 1:56:14.320 --> 1:56:16.520 You feels like, you know, it feels like that that's 1:56:16.560 --> 1:56:20.120 a record. When I perform, I'm like roses out you 1:56:20.200 --> 1:56:22.240 know on that record? 1:56:22.320 --> 1:56:29.040 Yeah for sure. Yeah, it's one of them records. How 1:56:29.040 --> 1:56:29.680 about Closer? 1:56:33.040 --> 1:56:34.920 So you're telling me records that you like, you listen to? 1:56:34.960 --> 1:56:39.560 These are the records that you because I'm like a 1:56:39.600 --> 1:56:41.200 lot of people don't know about some of these records. 1:56:43.160 --> 1:56:49.520 This blow up Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, listen to that 1:56:50.120 --> 1:56:51.320 play Let's get you right, ladies. 1:56:51.720 --> 1:56:57.960 You know what I'm saying, right, that's right now. Closer 1:56:58.040 --> 1:56:59.800 shout outs to the home inter I also have. 1:56:59.840 --> 1:57:02.800 A record called Closer. Okay, yeah yeah yeah, but mars 1:57:02.880 --> 1:57:05.880 Is nine ninety six. I'm old, you know, I'm sure 1:57:05.920 --> 1:57:07.840 the still go. 1:57:08.080 --> 1:57:11.200 But yeah, closest fire that that that records on the 1:57:11.280 --> 1:57:15.440 album I put out independently actually during the pandemic, bro, 1:57:16.840 --> 1:57:18.800 during the fucking pandemic. You know it was it was 1:57:19.680 --> 1:57:21.200 I'm like, yo, I gotta put it, I gotta put 1:57:21.200 --> 1:57:22.800 a project out. It was I was working on so 1:57:22.920 --> 1:57:25.400 much music, and I was sitting on a lot of music, 1:57:26.240 --> 1:57:28.400 and before the pandemic, I think it was right before 1:57:29.120 --> 1:57:34.680 me uh tron, I went in the studio to make 1:57:34.720 --> 1:57:36.600 it like a few records and I just made an 1:57:36.600 --> 1:57:39.800 EP out of it called Closer to Mars. So a 1:57:39.880 --> 1:57:42.200 couple of really incredible R and B records are on 1:57:42.280 --> 1:57:44.440 the album. If you haven't heard it yet, go check 1:57:44.480 --> 1:57:46.120 it out. Close to Mars. Great R and B album, 1:57:46.680 --> 1:57:49.320 I mean definitely you know one of the bedroom records. Also, 1:57:49.400 --> 1:57:51.200 you can get lit to it is it is, you 1:57:51.280 --> 1:57:54.000 know Mars the record Mars. Mars is my name in Latin. 1:57:54.080 --> 1:57:56.080 So I wrote the record based on like I'm bringing 1:57:56.120 --> 1:57:57.600 you to Mars, like bringing you to my world like 1:57:57.640 --> 1:58:00.880 type ship or whatever, but like it's it's it's a 1:58:01.080 --> 1:58:03.720 very good R and B album, bro, you know. 1:58:03.760 --> 1:58:05.080 And if Noriega bringing it up, you. 1:58:05.080 --> 1:58:07.840 Know what I'm saying, let me let me ask you 1:58:07.960 --> 1:58:13.280 because the biggest thing for me, right I did I 1:58:13.280 --> 1:58:14.320 went through the same transition. 1:58:14.440 --> 1:58:14.520 Right. 1:58:14.560 --> 1:58:16.960 I was on a major label. I love the major labels. 1:58:17.160 --> 1:58:21.000 It was kind of coming down. I went I went independent, 1:58:21.640 --> 1:58:25.240 you know what I mean. Everyone thought of the glits 1:58:25.360 --> 1:58:27.600 and glady, Oh, you know, independent, I'm gonna get all 1:58:27.640 --> 1:58:29.040 my money. But you don't understand is. 1:58:29.240 --> 1:58:31.640 You have to work, Nigga. I waste so much money 1:58:31.720 --> 1:58:36.480 on my first independent album of my own money. I 1:58:36.560 --> 1:58:38.720 went independent when it was just starting to get popping. 1:58:38.880 --> 1:58:41.440 Like the popular you had to be like the example, 1:58:42.080 --> 1:58:47.920 shout out the Gazi man O Nimam Ghazi. 1:58:48.400 --> 1:58:51.200 Nina was Tina wasn't there at the time, Da how 1:58:51.440 --> 1:58:54.400 that's how yeah early, you know what I'm saying. 1:58:54.480 --> 1:58:57.160 But like, man, it was one of the great look 1:58:57.280 --> 1:58:59.320 I look at life like this, bro, Like I'm really 1:58:59.440 --> 1:59:05.400 like that wasn't a waste to me. Me spending. I 1:59:05.520 --> 1:59:08.360 spent four hundred thousand dollars on the album and it 1:59:08.440 --> 1:59:10.560 was distribution though they did. 1:59:10.760 --> 1:59:13.680 Yeah, but you out of my motion through money was 1:59:14.000 --> 1:59:16.560 like four hundred thousand plus on it. Because I was 1:59:16.600 --> 1:59:18.440 still doing ship, I was doing as an artist, Like 1:59:18.440 --> 1:59:20.320 I was still going to the fucking big studios. I 1:59:20.400 --> 1:59:23.840 was still going to you know what I'm saying, a 1:59:24.000 --> 1:59:25.120 paramount still. 1:59:25.320 --> 1:59:25.360 No. 1:59:25.520 --> 1:59:27.080 I was living in La so I was going home 1:59:27.120 --> 1:59:30.440 and going toess Okay the night of the studio twenty 1:59:30.480 --> 1:59:34.560 five hundred dollars. I didn't yet understand that independ I 1:59:34.600 --> 1:59:36.560 didn't understand how to play monopoly with it yet. 1:59:37.360 --> 1:59:40.840 So for me, it was kind of like chess because 1:59:40.880 --> 1:59:41.880 I was like that moment was. 1:59:42.160 --> 1:59:44.840 For me to learn the business of being a boss, 1:59:45.400 --> 1:59:48.400 being your own boss, and so now I understand how 1:59:48.440 --> 1:59:50.400 to play with numbers in a completely different way. So 1:59:50.600 --> 1:59:52.680 it wasn't a loss for me coming out of my 1:59:52.720 --> 1:59:54.520 pocket doing this and this and that, and you know 1:59:54.520 --> 1:59:55.240 what I'm saying. 1:59:55.440 --> 1:59:57.520 Recouping that. So I have to say, you did you 1:59:57.600 --> 2:00:01.320 recoup that? Yeah? Pretty much? Okay, okay too. Took some time. 2:00:02.840 --> 2:00:04.400 You have to look at yourself like what am I doing? 2:00:04.800 --> 2:00:06.200 Like you said, go back to what you say. You 2:00:06.280 --> 2:00:08.160 thinking you independent? You about to get Nah, that's not 2:00:08.200 --> 2:00:08.680 how it works. 2:00:08.680 --> 2:00:08.760 Bro. 2:00:08.920 --> 2:00:11.000 Now you got you gotta you gotta plant the seeds 2:00:11.040 --> 2:00:13.320 before you see it grow, you know what I'm saying. 2:00:13.360 --> 2:00:14.760 And sometimes those seeds take time. 2:00:14.840 --> 2:00:16.800 And then on top of that, you gotta move as 2:00:16.880 --> 2:00:21.920 if you gotta envision it already there. Yeah, you gotta move. 2:00:22.000 --> 2:00:23.800 And you still got money to spend, by the way 2:00:24.880 --> 2:00:27.320 and make you know. But luckily, again, this is the 2:00:27.360 --> 2:00:30.640 beauty of having a catalog because I can still go 2:00:30.720 --> 2:00:32.880 and do shows and make more money to do partnerships 2:00:32.920 --> 2:00:34.720 and then be smart about how I do. 2:00:35.440 --> 2:00:37.120 You know, that's the blessing in it. 2:00:37.640 --> 2:00:41.200 But with total artists, total artists who go through who's 2:00:41.200 --> 2:00:43.040 about to go through with me, and you just went through. 2:00:43.160 --> 2:00:44.560 Right, you had a choice. 2:00:44.680 --> 2:00:47.520 Now, I'm not going to tell you what I'm gonna 2:00:47.520 --> 2:00:49.440 do because I want to hear yours. But if you 2:00:49.520 --> 2:00:54.840 had a choice, I just pivot pivota moment. But you 2:00:54.920 --> 2:00:58.040 said I could either stay independent and I could go 2:00:58.200 --> 2:01:00.640 with such a such or. 2:01:00.720 --> 2:01:03.680 Do it yeah, or I can stay with a major. 2:01:04.640 --> 2:01:07.080 We say stay all right, you're talking about a new artist. 2:01:07.120 --> 2:01:10.720 You're talking about It's different, bro, No, I'm talking about 2:01:10.760 --> 2:01:15.120 season artists. I'm talking about Okay, okay, Like what would 2:01:15.160 --> 2:01:18.920 you have done? Like like now, knowing your experience. 2:01:18.600 --> 2:01:20.200 All right, this is this is this is what I 2:01:20.240 --> 2:01:24.840 would say outside of your your artistry, outside of you 2:01:24.920 --> 2:01:25.680 being an artist? 2:01:25.800 --> 2:01:29.120 Right, what else are you doing outside of music? Are 2:01:29.160 --> 2:01:31.640 you do you have a good team? Do you got 2:01:31.680 --> 2:01:34.600 good credit? You have good you know what I mean? 2:01:34.720 --> 2:01:35.080 Business? 2:01:35.600 --> 2:01:35.640 Like? 2:01:35.720 --> 2:01:36.720 Are you investing in different? 2:01:36.760 --> 2:01:36.800 Like? 2:01:36.840 --> 2:01:38.520 What are you doing? Because I am doing that? 2:01:38.880 --> 2:01:41.560 So you scamming whatever whatever you're doing to make your money? 2:01:42.120 --> 2:01:44.920 Like do you have money to play with outside of that? 2:01:45.440 --> 2:01:47.280 To whereas though you could say, like and you know, 2:01:47.760 --> 2:01:50.560 I bet I'm going to use the machine. I'm not 2:01:50.600 --> 2:01:53.480 gonna take a lot of money. But I'm definitely gonna 2:01:53.520 --> 2:01:55.360 use a machine because I. 2:01:55.400 --> 2:02:00.520 Got a millie over here to live off in another. 2:02:00.360 --> 2:02:04.480 Five hundred whatever your number is, to put into a project. Right, 2:02:04.920 --> 2:02:06.640 if you have that, I would say, don't take a 2:02:06.680 --> 2:02:09.400 lot of money from the label, use the services. 2:02:10.560 --> 2:02:13.120 Take just take enough. I don't even know if I'm 2:02:13.120 --> 2:02:19.360 saying too much. Take enough to where though, It's like, until. 2:02:19.120 --> 2:02:20.960 We get to the point where we one hundred percent 2:02:21.320 --> 2:02:24.560 don't need the politics anymore, because we people say, oh, 2:02:24.640 --> 2:02:26.840 you won't need it's the politics are still there. 2:02:27.320 --> 2:02:30.520 Okay, we ain't there yet. We might be there soon, 2:02:30.680 --> 2:02:33.120 but we ain't there yet. So let me ask you. 2:02:33.280 --> 2:02:35.480 We all know this rumor, right that it takes like 2:02:35.560 --> 2:02:38.640 one hundred thousand to one hundred and seventy five thousand 2:02:38.720 --> 2:02:40.320 to make a record, a hit record. 2:02:41.040 --> 2:02:42.120 I don't even know if that's true. 2:02:42.160 --> 2:02:42.400 No more. 2:02:42.520 --> 2:02:46.120 I think it just depends on your relationship. I'm asking, yo, 2:02:46.280 --> 2:02:48.960 I'm asking because back then, that's how it was. Back then, 2:02:49.000 --> 2:02:49.840 it was cutting drive. 2:02:51.360 --> 2:02:56.880 We know, yeah, yeah, crazy change though, dirty station, crazy 2:02:57.440 --> 2:02:58.000 dirty station? 2:02:58.360 --> 2:02:59.320 Right now, for sure, I. 2:02:59.320 --> 2:03:01.440 Don't know how you pay that one fifty you automatically 2:03:01.480 --> 2:03:04.800 added to the Spotify playlist or you automatically add added 2:03:04.840 --> 2:03:05.520 to the action. 2:03:05.600 --> 2:03:10.680 It's about relationships, bro, Yeah, because money, right, But like 2:03:10.840 --> 2:03:12.960 I think I think it's more about relationships and like, 2:03:13.520 --> 2:03:15.600 you know, the bread, but the relationships too, bro. 2:03:15.920 --> 2:03:17.280 You know because right now, what do you think is 2:03:17.320 --> 2:03:19.960 more about Is it more about the playlist or is 2:03:20.000 --> 2:03:21.880 it more about the actual radio? 2:03:22.040 --> 2:03:25.200 I think it's about your relationship with your fans mixed 2:03:25.240 --> 2:03:29.280 with everything else, how you perceived, how hard you work with, 2:03:29.520 --> 2:03:33.920 how people will receive your music, how people feel about 2:03:33.960 --> 2:03:37.760 you overall, like their relationship with your music. You know 2:03:37.800 --> 2:03:41.040 what I'm saying, Because some artists, I'm like, I'm like, damn, 2:03:41.160 --> 2:03:43.520 Like I can't. I don't know what artists like. Don't 2:03:43.520 --> 2:03:43.760 ask me. 2:03:43.800 --> 2:03:44.640 I'm a little lit right now. 2:03:45.000 --> 2:03:48.640 But like some artists they have the music, but they 2:03:48.680 --> 2:03:50.600 don't have the relationships. And then you go, you know, 2:03:50.680 --> 2:03:52.320 they can sell some of the artists can sell tickets. 2:03:52.600 --> 2:03:57.480 Some artists can strain records. It depends on your relationship 2:03:57.560 --> 2:04:00.240 with overall, with the whole situation. It depends on how 2:04:00.360 --> 2:04:02.760 you bring yourself. It depends on what you've been putting 2:04:02.880 --> 2:04:05.800 energy into. Some artists are great touring artists, but they 2:04:05.800 --> 2:04:08.960 don't necessarily stream. Well, some artists stream great, but then 2:04:09.000 --> 2:04:11.560 they can't go on tour and sell tickets. So you 2:04:11.680 --> 2:04:14.680 got to create your reality and this shit, you know 2:04:14.720 --> 2:04:16.400 what I mean? Like right now we have that chance 2:04:16.440 --> 2:04:16.680 to do that. 2:04:17.480 --> 2:04:19.240 Is radio still necessary. 2:04:22.320 --> 2:04:26.960 If you can afford it, If you can afford it, yeah, 2:04:27.200 --> 2:04:30.080 just for the Yeah, if you can afford the Just 2:04:30.600 --> 2:04:33.480 what are you talking about, like mainstream, you're talking about 2:04:33.680 --> 2:04:34.160 top forty? 2:04:34.200 --> 2:04:34.880 What you talking about? 2:04:35.360 --> 2:04:38.240 I'm talking about period because like like like I guess 2:04:38.280 --> 2:04:39.760 today I went to New York City? 2:04:40.520 --> 2:04:42.640 Was it yesterday? Day before? Yes? 2:04:43.120 --> 2:04:46.520 I think the expectations for major artists is to break 2:04:46.600 --> 2:04:49.880 records at top forty and be on radio, and artists 2:04:49.920 --> 2:04:52.880 major artists like artists that are like artists like myself 2:04:53.000 --> 2:04:54.720 or somebody that's been in the game for a long time. 2:04:54.760 --> 2:04:56.120 It's like, oh, if you don't have a record at 2:04:56.160 --> 2:04:59.360 top forty, then you have him. But for me, I 2:04:59.360 --> 2:05:02.960 identify success with the overall your personal life and your 2:05:03.000 --> 2:05:04.560 business life and your artist's life. 2:05:04.600 --> 2:05:08.800 It's not even about what's going on on the internet 2:05:08.880 --> 2:05:09.160 no more. 2:05:09.320 --> 2:05:09.400 Bro. 2:05:11.280 --> 2:05:14.680 I can promise you that I haven't had a hit 2:05:15.720 --> 2:05:19.760 and I stopped counting the years, but I've had motion 2:05:20.360 --> 2:05:21.520 and the way that I think, in the way that 2:05:21.600 --> 2:05:24.680 I move outside of music, and my relationships and the 2:05:24.720 --> 2:05:27.480 things that I invest in, certain things like I don't 2:05:28.640 --> 2:05:30.880 necessary I love music. I do it because I love it, 2:05:31.040 --> 2:05:32.760 and I do it because it's quick. It's like, to me, 2:05:33.160 --> 2:05:36.200 music is equivalent of street money. I can I can 2:05:36.320 --> 2:05:38.960 leave here tomorrow and go make eighty thousand, one hundred 2:05:39.000 --> 2:05:39.720 thousand of the show. 2:05:41.200 --> 2:05:45.000 But do you feel me? But I don't have to 2:05:45.080 --> 2:05:48.840 hit but then the audience I wish, But I'm so 2:05:49.000 --> 2:05:51.000 grateful for it. Thank you guys, Thank you to the fans. 2:05:51.600 --> 2:05:52.400 Thank you so much. 2:05:52.960 --> 2:05:55.440 Well, I'm saying that to say that, but I'm saying 2:05:55.480 --> 2:05:58.800 that to say, bro, I've evolved as a being. There's 2:05:58.840 --> 2:06:00.560 so many other things that I'm meant to outside of 2:06:00.640 --> 2:06:02.040 music business wise that I don't have. 2:06:02.200 --> 2:06:03.720 But I make the time for it. 2:06:03.920 --> 2:06:05.800 But it's harder because as the artist, you gotta go 2:06:05.880 --> 2:06:07.400 to the show, you got to be present, you got 2:06:07.480 --> 2:06:09.880 to be at the production meetias. You gotta be And 2:06:10.000 --> 2:06:11.800 I wish that's something like I'm like, Damn, I wish 2:06:11.840 --> 2:06:13.320 I had two days of spare sock and folks on 2:06:13.400 --> 2:06:16.600 this other business venture. That's about to make me twenty million, 2:06:16.680 --> 2:06:20.320 that's what and so not for sure one thousand percent. 2:06:20.520 --> 2:06:23.720 And then so it's like it's blessed to have both sides. 2:06:23.760 --> 2:06:26.520 But where I'm at missing now, it's a different place. 2:06:26.600 --> 2:06:29.720 So it's a blessing to have the catalog, you know 2:06:29.720 --> 2:06:32.280 what I'm saying, and to have the work ethic, and 2:06:32.400 --> 2:06:35.880 to also have the self awareness that protects your energy. 2:06:35.920 --> 2:06:38.920 So you got the energy to not sleep for you know, 2:06:39.280 --> 2:06:40.960 a whole night and still get up and come to 2:06:41.040 --> 2:06:43.120 drink tramps from that day. This last three days been crazy. 2:06:43.160 --> 2:06:46.200 I had shows all weekend for juern Tea, Like I 2:06:46.280 --> 2:06:50.320 had shows all weekend, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, bro, 2:06:50.480 --> 2:06:52.800 it's all of it matters. All of it matters. It's 2:06:52.800 --> 2:06:55.920 just your life at this point in time in life. 2:06:56.240 --> 2:07:00.240 It ain't about just being an artist. It's about whole 2:07:00.280 --> 2:07:03.080 setup of life. It's monopoly. It's chess, is like. 2:07:03.480 --> 2:07:06.440 How you're setting your whole life up. About the smoking mirrors, 2:07:06.920 --> 2:07:07.520 real life ship. 2:07:07.600 --> 2:07:09.840 Now I can truly see that that you're a person, 2:07:10.600 --> 2:07:13.520 whether in the beginning or the end or wherever it is, 2:07:13.960 --> 2:07:15.840 that you learn how to play the game, and you 2:07:15.920 --> 2:07:17.920 didn't let the game play you, my brother. 2:07:18.120 --> 2:07:27.800 Man, that's the solid serious man. Listen, you don't understand. 2:07:27.840 --> 2:07:29.760 I've been in this game twenty seven years. I've seen 2:07:31.040 --> 2:07:34.840 like that. Huh. It's called heavily Heavenly Sockey. I don't 2:07:34.840 --> 2:07:39.040 work for them, not yet. I'm throwing my hat in 2:07:39.080 --> 2:07:42.320 the ring. It's nice. Yeah, it's like it's like a 2:07:42.360 --> 2:07:45.480 little it's like a gobby in like a sweet like sweet. 2:07:46.040 --> 2:07:51.200 Yeah, it's Cool's cool, yeah man, But that's the definitely, 2:07:51.200 --> 2:07:53.240 can't let the game play you, nah, because you know why, 2:07:53.320 --> 2:07:55.640 I have a son. One day I'm teaching them Monopoly 2:07:55.720 --> 2:07:58.080 and Chess off top, putting books in front of them 2:07:58.120 --> 2:07:58.480 all top. 2:07:59.080 --> 2:08:01.360 You know you got a daughter though, right, No, I 2:08:01.480 --> 2:08:03.840 got no kids yet. Okay, okay, since you say that 2:08:03.920 --> 2:08:07.160 in the Bropast club, I thought she was shooting the club. Great, Yeah, 2:08:07.720 --> 2:08:10.160 it's great. People been saying have the Fathers Day to 2:08:10.200 --> 2:08:16.520 me too. Maybe it's something bal I don't know. You 2:08:16.840 --> 2:08:22.320 get you an Oh my god, he didn't have it 2:08:22.880 --> 2:08:25.280 in twenty two years. This is this thing. 2:08:27.640 --> 2:08:30.760 Were go, hey, mister Lee, don't laugh too for our 2:08:32.240 --> 2:08:34.840 laugh to you. He's fifty nine. 2:08:35.000 --> 2:08:37.960 This is different. This is different. Shout out to all 2:08:38.000 --> 2:08:39.920 the moms and dad's out there, you know, handling the 2:08:40.040 --> 2:08:44.320 responsibility perspecting these kids. Man, kids, kids is the most 2:08:44.440 --> 2:08:48.640 vulnerable that they're some of the most vulnerable in our societies, 2:08:48.680 --> 2:08:51.480 you know, kids because the world is like you know, 2:08:51.600 --> 2:08:53.880 they don't even understand what's happening in the world all way. 2:08:53.920 --> 2:08:56.600 You know what I'm saying, That we're on the front 2:08:56.640 --> 2:08:59.280 line of standing up or creating the world that they're 2:08:59.280 --> 2:09:01.480 about to exist. You know. So they're to me, the 2:09:01.560 --> 2:09:04.160 most vulnerable in a lot of ways, man, you know, 2:09:04.280 --> 2:09:07.040 so shout out to shout out to the kids, man, 2:09:07.080 --> 2:09:09.560 and all the souls that's choosing the incarnate in this world. 2:09:10.440 --> 2:09:12.560 And we know you like, do we want times? You 2:09:12.600 --> 2:09:13.080 know what I'm saying. 2:09:13.400 --> 2:09:17.560 This was like, no, I ain't gonna lie. You got 2:09:17.600 --> 2:09:21.120 your R and B ship going on right now? What 2:09:21.360 --> 2:09:23.160 this was this a photo you did for this? 2:09:23.560 --> 2:09:25.680 You're about to do it type of he's bringing the 2:09:25.720 --> 2:09:28.480 wrong boxes. I don't know why. That's what I was 2:09:28.480 --> 2:09:34.680 screaming early Okay, photo shoot. You know what I'm saying, 2:09:34.800 --> 2:09:36.320 I get it, bro may hate you know what I'm saying. 2:09:37.400 --> 2:09:41.240 I got done done? Yeah, man, So what's the next? Yeah? Mario. 2:09:41.480 --> 2:09:43.680 What's Mario doing next? Musically? 2:09:45.760 --> 2:09:47.600 Experiments and having fun with it, bro, you know, you 2:09:47.680 --> 2:09:50.320 gotta have fun with it right now. I got some 2:09:50.480 --> 2:09:53.280 music coming out, singles coming out, you know, into my 2:09:53.360 --> 2:09:55.440 next project. I got album out called Glad You Came Up, 2:09:55.440 --> 2:09:57.840 put out in December. But you're just having fun with it, bro, 2:09:58.080 --> 2:10:01.440 you know, really experimenting and working with people that I'm 2:10:01.480 --> 2:10:04.520 having fun with. Acting too, Yeah, no, I got to, Yeah, 2:10:04.720 --> 2:10:06.320 for sure, I got. I got a few things in 2:10:06.360 --> 2:10:11.280 the acting field coming out New Citizen Productions. So I 2:10:11.400 --> 2:10:15.200 created a production company about two years ago, signed a 2:10:15.240 --> 2:10:21.120 few writers, and really just developing behind the scenes some 2:10:21.280 --> 2:10:23.680 really great projects right now that I'm going to be 2:10:23.760 --> 2:10:26.480 pitching and finding the right homess form. What's over the 2:10:26.520 --> 2:10:28.960 next couple of years, You're going to see me step 2:10:29.120 --> 2:10:31.560 into that back you know, acting behind the candle. 2:10:32.080 --> 2:10:32.600 Not just the acting. 2:10:32.600 --> 2:10:34.280 I've done the acting, but just like do you know, 2:10:34.480 --> 2:10:37.120 intellectual property wise, like having my own production, having my 2:10:37.160 --> 2:10:40.320 own screenplays, the ideas that I come up with with 2:10:40.440 --> 2:10:45.200 my team and we build you know, because it's it's yeah, 2:10:45.280 --> 2:10:49.080 it's it's my mind is its constantly moving in that direction. 2:10:49.200 --> 2:10:55.160 I got investments that have made like certain experiences that 2:10:55.200 --> 2:10:57.720 I'm creating. Right now, I can't talk with it. I 2:10:57.760 --> 2:11:00.960 can't say the ideas, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, Bros, 2:11:01.200 --> 2:11:03.160 this next couple of years, you'll probably gonna You're gonna 2:11:03.160 --> 2:11:05.640 see like the entrepreneurs side of what I've been working 2:11:05.640 --> 2:11:08.640 on for the last three four years. And it's it's 2:11:08.680 --> 2:11:10.760 gonna be inspiring, bro, you know, because I think it's 2:11:10.800 --> 2:11:12.280 things that people wouldn't expect. 2:11:12.360 --> 2:11:17.080 Right, Yeah, you got a role for you want my 2:11:17.560 --> 2:11:24.400 acting coach? Coaches don't make enough money, but yeah, bro, 2:11:24.680 --> 2:11:25.080 that bro. 2:11:25.240 --> 2:11:27.720 And you know, of course like taking the music and 2:11:27.960 --> 2:11:30.160 the touring to the next level, you know, really tapping 2:11:30.240 --> 2:11:32.320 back into the performance bag. 2:11:34.160 --> 2:11:37.280 And loving the love the performances. And yeah, bro, just 2:11:37.280 --> 2:11:40.960 stepping back again, rewinding the times, if you will, rewinding 2:11:41.040 --> 2:11:48.120 the times hypothetically speaking, right, Yeah, I said, man, Mario, good. 2:11:48.080 --> 2:11:53.800 Join one group, I guess, joint one group, joint one 2:11:53.880 --> 2:11:54.680 group for one week? 2:11:56.800 --> 2:11:57.720 What group you join? 2:11:57.800 --> 2:12:08.320 Its great question? Uh, let's say the five Heartbeats don't exist. 2:12:10.240 --> 2:12:16.440 We gotta be they gotta exist. Real group right now? 2:12:16.600 --> 2:12:18.840 Liggas don't got groups no more? What groups exist? 2:12:18.960 --> 2:12:23.120 Right now? All right? Just maybe you artists. That's a lot. 2:12:23.840 --> 2:12:26.520 All I'm gonna go with. 2:12:31.400 --> 2:12:36.320 Groops. Damn, that's kind of crazy, all right, I'm gonna say, uh, 2:12:38.680 --> 2:12:39.640 it's between. 2:12:41.600 --> 2:12:46.839 Jagged Edge mm hmm, I say Jagged Edge, bro Jagged 2:12:46.920 --> 2:12:48.000 Edge and who else? 2:12:48.120 --> 2:12:57.080 Who's the other choice? And T G T that's Tank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:12:57.280 --> 2:12:57.960 I can see that. 2:12:58.680 --> 2:13:00.720 Not even on some like I just I feel like 2:13:00.720 --> 2:13:02.840 I could bring something different to the group. Really, you 2:13:02.880 --> 2:13:04.960 know what I'm saying. Uh, you know what I mean, 2:13:05.240 --> 2:13:10.400 fighting and all that is great. I know all three 2:13:10.440 --> 2:13:14.880 of them. You know a lot of d m V ship, 2:13:15.360 --> 2:13:20.400 a couple of West Coast Yeah, okay, cool, jagged As though, Yeah, 2:13:20.520 --> 2:13:22.040 I feel like that would be some ship for sure. 2:13:22.480 --> 2:13:23.160 I ain't gonna lie. 2:13:23.520 --> 2:13:27.120 I will pick new Edition, Okay, I would pick the 2:13:27.200 --> 2:13:31.360 eighties new edition put on my Yeah, for sure, I'm 2:13:31.360 --> 2:13:31.640 gonna be. 2:13:31.680 --> 2:13:33.360 Ready for my propogative. Okay. 2:13:33.920 --> 2:13:39.160 Like if Bobby asks is I'm okay, you got you 2:13:39.200 --> 2:13:41.320 got you want to stop drinking? You gotta stamping it like. 2:13:43.960 --> 2:13:44.480 I forgot that. 2:13:50.280 --> 2:13:54.480 Taking back sounded jagged just on some you know some 2:13:55.280 --> 2:13:57.520 jagged as just on some you know crooning. 2:13:59.240 --> 2:14:01.920 They made classic music records that will play that every wedding. 2:14:02.440 --> 2:14:05.920 They still got Yeah, I drink good all night. They 2:14:05.960 --> 2:14:10.240 could drink. What was that versus experience like with you 2:14:10.560 --> 2:14:11.240 and Marion? 2:14:14.120 --> 2:14:14.320 For me? 2:14:14.440 --> 2:14:15.000 It was great. 2:14:15.760 --> 2:14:19.040 Yes, it's a great experience for me for sure. You 2:14:19.120 --> 2:14:21.880 know that she was crazy, bro, it was dope. I mean, 2:14:21.960 --> 2:14:23.680 I feel like going into it, I already knew. It 2:14:23.800 --> 2:14:26.040 was like you being on the block with the homies 2:14:26.120 --> 2:14:29.000 talking sh and playing good music and singing. It's like karaoke, 2:14:29.840 --> 2:14:31.360 you know what I mean, but you're singing your own music, 2:14:31.640 --> 2:14:35.840 you know. And I don't know what aspect of it 2:14:36.080 --> 2:14:37.560 this is. There was a lot going on. 2:14:38.360 --> 2:14:40.640 It's a pandemic, so of course there's a lot going on. 2:14:41.160 --> 2:14:44.880 People are scared, and then here comes versus entertainment. Everybody's 2:14:44.920 --> 2:14:45.240 at home. 2:14:45.400 --> 2:14:47.200 That's crazy, you say a lot of people don't bring 2:14:47.320 --> 2:14:48.960 up the pandemic part, but it definitely was. 2:14:49.040 --> 2:14:53.800 That's the big part. Yeah, together, it was together. Did 2:14:53.840 --> 2:14:56.280 you see it? I did see it, but I don't 2:14:56.320 --> 2:15:01.200 remember it. That's when that's crazy. You were right, Yeah 2:15:02.640 --> 2:15:02.840 it was. 2:15:03.240 --> 2:15:03.440 It was. 2:15:03.560 --> 2:15:06.560 It was yea, yeah, it was. It was truth, me 2:15:07.040 --> 2:15:14.400 against Mario and his whole army. I had a whole 2:15:14.520 --> 2:15:15.040 army with him. 2:15:15.680 --> 2:15:17.400 It was crazy, bro, I didn't even know he had 2:15:17.440 --> 2:15:24.960 allies like that. I know, at the end of the day, 2:15:24.960 --> 2:15:26.960 it's all, you know, it's all for the love of music. 2:15:27.160 --> 2:15:29.760 But I definitely didn't know he had allies, you know, 2:15:29.920 --> 2:15:32.080 so I had to like it was like I had 2:15:32.120 --> 2:15:36.840 to like take him all down one by one, sniper, 2:15:38.240 --> 2:15:40.840 like my god, like a good snipper. But yeah, it 2:15:40.960 --> 2:15:42.440 was cool, man, it was good. It was a good 2:15:42.520 --> 2:15:44.840 knight for R and B. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, 2:15:48.560 --> 2:15:48.920 arm beat. 2:15:50.680 --> 2:15:54.760 It was at one point, you know, a person you 2:15:54.880 --> 2:15:58.000 know what what what he kept saying, you know, I'm 2:15:58.040 --> 2:15:59.640 gonna make R and B alive again. 2:16:00.040 --> 2:16:03.360 I'm going to make R and B alive again. Where 2:16:03.360 --> 2:16:05.640 else was he saying, huh what else what they're saying, 2:16:06.400 --> 2:16:08.800 that's what they're saying, I'm R and ME back. It 2:16:08.920 --> 2:16:13.440 was basically, uh, you know the guy, yeah, lovey, it's okay. 2:16:13.400 --> 2:16:16.480 All right, But did you ever ever heard that statement 2:16:16.560 --> 2:16:18.960 like where where people felt like, you know, at one point, 2:16:19.000 --> 2:16:22.320 even now, I said that our forefront of one of 2:16:22.400 --> 2:16:26.120 our forefathers, said hip hop is dead. Yeah, and you 2:16:26.200 --> 2:16:28.640 know people have to you know, refute him, and you know, 2:16:28.720 --> 2:16:32.200 he embraced it. And he was like, Okay, well maybe 2:16:32.280 --> 2:16:34.160 hip hop isn't dead. Maybe he lives in the South, 2:16:34.240 --> 2:16:36.280 or maybe he lives in London or whatever whatever is 2:16:36.400 --> 2:16:38.879 ever a time where people were saying that, like, you. 2:16:38.879 --> 2:16:41.360 Know, R and B is dead and you personal. I 2:16:41.520 --> 2:16:43.760 never took a person of Okay, but you heard them 2:16:44.000 --> 2:16:44.280 for sure. 2:16:44.360 --> 2:16:46.440 Okay, I only took a person when they started trying 2:16:46.440 --> 2:16:47.160 to paintings less. 2:16:47.840 --> 2:16:50.160 That's what it was like. Damn, Like okay, now I'm 2:16:50.160 --> 2:16:53.080 taking the person I was personal, you know, but like, nah, 2:16:53.280 --> 2:16:57.120 I think that this is what we do. You know, 2:16:57.400 --> 2:17:03.080 we are we We are innovators, bro. We innovated hip hop. 2:17:03.280 --> 2:17:06.160 R and B. We're the innovators of this culture. 2:17:06.240 --> 2:17:06.320 Bro. 2:17:06.520 --> 2:17:10.640 So it is our conversation. But it's almost like us 2:17:11.080 --> 2:17:12.600 what we're doing on the internet. But if we were 2:17:12.600 --> 2:17:15.320 all sitting at that conference talking about it, like Nigga. 2:17:15.320 --> 2:17:17.320 Army is saying, all right, when you should have did Nigga, 2:17:17.360 --> 2:17:19.600 you're the one that you need to do what you 2:17:19.680 --> 2:17:21.879 need to do. It's just like we. 2:17:23.720 --> 2:17:26.480 Are having this conversation out in the world, you know, 2:17:26.720 --> 2:17:28.280 for the world to get involved in it, you know 2:17:28.320 --> 2:17:30.280 what I'm saying. So, yeah, I'm glad that they have, 2:17:30.360 --> 2:17:32.840 because it's a reason why I feel like, you know, 2:17:33.040 --> 2:17:34.720 it's still here, is because we continue to have the 2:17:34.800 --> 2:17:38.240 conversation and we continue to push the culture forward by 2:17:38.320 --> 2:17:42.160 having a conversation. But also I think that the problem, 2:17:42.440 --> 2:17:45.800 I feel like it's the people that have control over 2:17:45.879 --> 2:17:50.760 what people experience. For example, love BT, thank you, we 2:17:50.879 --> 2:17:53.720 love you all the year, but sometimes the conglomerates of 2:17:53.760 --> 2:17:57.119 whoever's in control don't always make the best decisions as 2:17:57.240 --> 2:17:59.280 to how it's experienced. 2:17:59.800 --> 2:18:04.080 Right. So I went to the BT Awards this past one. Yeah, okay, and. 2:18:06.760 --> 2:18:08.760 You know, I was just coming back from the UK 2:18:09.240 --> 2:18:11.800 and Europe on my tour for Glad You Came album. 2:18:13.440 --> 2:18:16.600 They hit us about, you know, doing the BT Experience. Yeah, 2:18:16.680 --> 2:18:18.920 glad you came for the album. That's that's out. I 2:18:19.040 --> 2:18:23.680 took that wrong. We're bad, You're good, but. 2:18:23.760 --> 2:18:29.720 It's glad you came. Yeah, for sure, we are though, 2:18:29.959 --> 2:18:31.360 you know what I'm saying. We glad you came for 2:18:31.440 --> 2:18:31.959 the experience. 2:18:33.720 --> 2:18:37.040 But it's like they hit us to do the BT Experience. 2:18:37.080 --> 2:18:40.440 I'm so happy, like grateful, But when I didn't even 2:18:40.440 --> 2:18:42.199 know they were doing a one on six in park situation. 2:18:42.840 --> 2:18:45.960 But the timeline of that everybody was on that like 2:18:46.040 --> 2:18:48.000 it was no reason why I should put a pump 2:18:48.120 --> 2:18:50.720 on the Red Carpet show, because that was the moment 2:18:50.800 --> 2:18:53.160 where you should have had a Mario performance in the 2:18:53.280 --> 2:18:56.520 actual show, you know what I'm saying, Like that wasn't 2:18:56.720 --> 2:18:59.800 There was some good, decent performance, but as far as 2:18:59.840 --> 2:19:02.360 what I do and what I represented during that time, 2:19:02.760 --> 2:19:03.960 it was missing from that set. 2:19:05.120 --> 2:19:08.360 And I feel like those are the moments where you know, 2:19:09.160 --> 2:19:11.560 we got to represent R and B and represent our 2:19:11.600 --> 2:19:13.720 culture the right way. We don't do it all the time. 2:19:14.640 --> 2:19:16.520 And this is not even me, Like I speak about 2:19:16.520 --> 2:19:18.560 myself a third person all the time. Bro, I promise 2:19:18.600 --> 2:19:21.039 you that I really I'm so happy in my life, 2:19:21.680 --> 2:19:24.840 like I'm really blessing and I enjoy my life outside 2:19:24.879 --> 2:19:27.760 of just being an artist. But when it comes to 2:19:28.000 --> 2:19:30.879 respecting like what I've done as an artist, I feel 2:19:30.920 --> 2:19:34.160 like sometimes it's not respected in certain in those types 2:19:34.200 --> 2:19:37.400 of cases, right, And I feel like it would have 2:19:37.560 --> 2:19:40.160 helped R and B because I am a true R 2:19:40.160 --> 2:19:42.800 and B artist, Like I'm true to the culture, true 2:19:42.840 --> 2:19:44.360 to the game of RB, true to the to the 2:19:45.120 --> 2:19:46.400 essence of R and B, and. 2:19:46.480 --> 2:19:47.800 It wasn't represented that night. 2:19:47.879 --> 2:19:52.039 I feel like in terms of male artists from that era, 2:19:53.200 --> 2:19:55.000 it was missing from the stage that night, on the 2:19:55.080 --> 2:19:58.879 main stage outside of hold On, even though Jamie Jamie 2:19:58.920 --> 2:20:01.480 Fox is the first of all, Jamie Fox is the goat, 2:20:01.680 --> 2:20:04.560 like you can't even but in that era, I mean, 2:20:04.840 --> 2:20:06.480 like of my you know what I'm saying, the artist 2:20:06.560 --> 2:20:07.320 that was out that time. 2:20:08.400 --> 2:20:10.240 Yeah, but I think. 2:20:11.680 --> 2:20:14.400 One of the things I did see this was one 2:20:14.440 --> 2:20:16.600 of the best bets put together for sure. 2:20:16.760 --> 2:20:22.160 Yeah, one thousand, one thousand percent. It was an incredible show. Yeah, 2:20:22.560 --> 2:20:29.360 one thousand percent, big up, constant, juice Ski Bro, big 2:20:29.480 --> 2:20:29.720 up to. 2:20:29.800 --> 2:20:33.120 The whole new regime of young artists, like it was. 2:20:34.520 --> 2:20:35.800 Can you trying to make it seem like I'm down 2:20:35.800 --> 2:20:36.520 the whole show. 2:20:37.200 --> 2:20:37.760 I did not know. 2:20:38.160 --> 2:20:41.119 I see you look like face because you know, look 2:20:41.160 --> 2:20:41.560 at your face? 2:20:44.320 --> 2:20:48.440 Hold On, be honest, I didn't see the whole Awards show. 2:20:48.680 --> 2:20:52.560 I've seen clips of it, so I'm bro show. Yeah, 2:20:52.640 --> 2:20:54.240 pointing out the clip I saw, Bro, I. 2:20:54.240 --> 2:20:57.240 Don't I never go outside. I went to these BT wards. 2:20:57.240 --> 2:20:59.400 I knew how incredible it was going to be. I'm 2:20:59.480 --> 2:21:01.440 specific talking about should be talking about R and B 2:21:01.560 --> 2:21:19.920 bro specifically. Yeah, I understand, no, Bro, Yeah, it was 2:21:19.920 --> 2:21:22.960 an incredible show, bro, Like I was inspired, like super 2:21:23.040 --> 2:21:24.680 inspired by it, super inspired. 2:21:25.280 --> 2:21:29.600 So everyone, you know, they have their ten year career 2:21:30.200 --> 2:21:32.800 and the new thing is now to venture out and 2:21:32.840 --> 2:21:33.800 do something different. 2:21:33.920 --> 2:21:35.720 We know you do after acting. You know, we got 2:21:35.760 --> 2:21:38.720 the production. But is there anything that you think of 2:21:38.840 --> 2:21:44.880 a podcast? Anything that I think stream like that? I 2:21:44.920 --> 2:21:47.520 would do that? You for yourself? Would you do a park? 2:21:48.600 --> 2:21:52.600 Not yet? Okay, because AI shifting. 2:21:53.000 --> 2:21:55.840 Everything is shifting, money shifting, the way niggas is paid shifting. 2:21:55.959 --> 2:21:59.040 I'm a businessman, so I'm thinking five years ahead. I'm like, Okay, 2:21:59.360 --> 2:22:01.080 what podcasts gonna look like in five years? 2:22:02.440 --> 2:22:04.680 Take home. I'm not saying they would take over, possibly 2:22:04.760 --> 2:22:06.560 in some ways, but like I'm just saying, like the 2:22:06.720 --> 2:22:10.040 structure of it business wise, if I don't show up 2:22:10.320 --> 2:22:12.480 another no, no, no, I'm not saying that. 2:22:12.560 --> 2:22:14.600 I'm saying that the way you get I'm saying that 2:22:14.680 --> 2:22:16.720 the way you getting paid right now may change in the. 2:22:16.760 --> 2:22:20.760 Next three we get mustered together. I know, Bro, I'm 2:22:20.800 --> 2:22:23.600 not saying you had I know, I see you. I 2:22:23.680 --> 2:22:25.880 heard the conversation was having outside who was coming in. 2:22:26.160 --> 2:22:27.040 I was talking about money. 2:22:27.080 --> 2:22:30.039 I respect it, but I'm saying that, Like, I'm like, Okay, 2:22:31.000 --> 2:22:32.160 if I'm gonna do it, I want to do it 2:22:32.200 --> 2:22:35.440 at the highest level possible for me. And then I'm like, okay, well, 2:22:35.480 --> 2:22:37.880 other things can I integrate from the other relationships that 2:22:37.920 --> 2:22:40.400 I have. I'm just thinking, you know, yeah, you put 2:22:40.440 --> 2:22:47.000 it together, time illusion experiences. How do I calculate my 2:22:47.080 --> 2:22:49.320 time with experiences? How do I want to experience things? 2:22:49.400 --> 2:22:52.119 Like I just think about, like, okay, I really cann 2:22:52.800 --> 2:22:55.960 influence the experience I want to have over the next Like, 2:22:56.080 --> 2:22:58.680 so I'm like, I'll be trying to make decisions based 2:22:58.720 --> 2:23:00.119 on what I know it's about to happen. 2:23:00.000 --> 2:23:00.520 In the future. 2:23:01.200 --> 2:23:02.720 So like, Okay, I'm gonna do a podcast right now, 2:23:02.760 --> 2:23:05.960 but like maybe the shifts and changing may happen in 2:23:05.959 --> 2:23:08.360 the next year that make niggas get pay more. Right, 2:23:09.160 --> 2:23:11.080 maybe I should wait a year and just to vet 2:23:11.120 --> 2:23:13.640 the content. But you know what I'm saying, I don't know. 2:23:14.080 --> 2:23:16.119 I just be thinking, like I'll give you one advice 2:23:16.160 --> 2:23:19.320 about the part, bro. That's kind of like it cuts 2:23:19.360 --> 2:23:19.879 through the thing. 2:23:20.720 --> 2:23:23.040 Like I wish when I was making records that I 2:23:23.120 --> 2:23:26.400 had these algorithm numbers, because what I mean by that is, 2:23:26.680 --> 2:23:29.400 you know how you you go on tour, right, and 2:23:29.480 --> 2:23:31.440 you're going to all and you go to these miscellaneous states. 2:23:31.480 --> 2:23:33.240 I'm not going to say a state because I want 2:23:33.280 --> 2:23:34.560 to go back to there because if they pay me, 2:23:34.600 --> 2:23:37.720 I'm going back. But you go to these miscellaneous states 2:23:37.760 --> 2:23:41.360 that don't really matter in your algorithms of selling albums. 2:23:41.560 --> 2:23:41.680 Right. 2:23:42.040 --> 2:23:45.119 So what happens is they'll put you, like the record 2:23:45.160 --> 2:23:47.840 label will put you on this whole toll and it'll 2:23:47.840 --> 2:23:49.840 be a thirty two cities tall because the reason why 2:23:49.840 --> 2:23:52.920 they put you in a thirty two city tour is 2:23:52.959 --> 2:23:54.560 because they have to eat up their budget. 2:23:54.800 --> 2:23:57.959 But you're in places that it doesn't matter. But right 2:23:58.040 --> 2:24:02.680 now I can see exactly actually what thirty two states that, right, 2:24:02.760 --> 2:24:04.440 and they might not be the states that people think. 2:24:04.520 --> 2:24:06.760 It's not gonna be the states. And guess what, We're okay, 2:24:06.800 --> 2:24:09.560 we're going to Little Rock, Arkansas. We're okay with going 2:24:09.600 --> 2:24:12.760 to fucking s outskirts of Delaware. We're okay to go 2:24:12.879 --> 2:24:15.200 on the Sacramento Sure, but I don't want to go 2:24:15.320 --> 2:24:17.760 to Las Vegas because you think there's Las Vegas and. 2:24:17.920 --> 2:24:19.400 No one gives a fuck about it. No one in 2:24:19.520 --> 2:24:22.880 Las Vegas. They're thinking about hookers and fucking his passion. 2:24:22.959 --> 2:24:24.640 Right now, they ain't thinking about hookers and gambling. 2:24:24.800 --> 2:24:27.680 Why the fuck away in Lost Bank? You under stayd 2:24:27.680 --> 2:24:29.560 I'm saying, so I'm thinking about it. So all these 2:24:29.600 --> 2:24:31.080 twenty seven years, I'm looking like that. 2:24:31.200 --> 2:24:31.800 I got jerked. 2:24:31.840 --> 2:24:34.200 For twenty seven years, they sent me to the to 2:24:34.320 --> 2:24:36.520 the places that they wanted them to descend, to eat 2:24:36.560 --> 2:24:39.480 the budget up. But right now I can Lil Wayne 2:24:39.480 --> 2:24:41.400 can do dreams champs, and I can say, Lil Wayne, 2:24:41.480 --> 2:24:43.560 go here here, here, here, here, here, and stay the 2:24:43.600 --> 2:24:46.560 fuck away from here here here. You had four views there. 2:24:47.040 --> 2:24:48.840 What do you do you think those four people are 2:24:48.840 --> 2:24:53.160 gonna come out fifty five times? Let's get the fuck 2:24:53.200 --> 2:24:55.480 away from that state. But I'm saying that's the that's 2:24:55.520 --> 2:24:59.840 the only good thing about AI and these I can say, Mario, man. 2:25:00.160 --> 2:25:00.760 Just tell you something. 2:25:00.800 --> 2:25:04.400 Man say, I'm not gonna say the state away from 2:25:04.440 --> 2:25:08.160 such and such, go over there, go on this whole side, 2:25:08.520 --> 2:25:09.480 This whole side is with. 2:25:13.320 --> 2:25:23.200 That like that one like you hit Holy it's real ship. Though, 2:25:23.400 --> 2:25:24.280 I'm being honest with you. 2:25:25.120 --> 2:25:27.560 When I saw when I saw like, I started to 2:25:27.600 --> 2:25:30.400 study the algorithms of what we're doing here, and I said, 2:25:30.480 --> 2:25:32.720 if I was to drop a record right now, I 2:25:32.760 --> 2:25:33.160 would not. 2:25:34.920 --> 2:25:36.920 I would not any for fifty two states. That's when 2:25:36.959 --> 2:25:39.600 we got fifty two, right, fifty all right, whatever, man, 2:25:40.120 --> 2:25:43.680 I gave you a sex for two all right, so 2:25:43.879 --> 2:25:46.040 fifty states, right, even the fifty states. I would not 2:25:46.160 --> 2:25:46.920 hit fifty states. 2:25:46.959 --> 2:25:49.440 Like if they gave me a budget, I would hit 2:25:49.520 --> 2:25:53.280 the twenty two that I know I can double up 2:25:53.320 --> 2:25:54.440 on me because there was twenty two. 2:25:54.840 --> 2:25:56.520 Okay, let's just. 2:25:56.520 --> 2:25:58.480 Let's break it down. I'm just giving you an example. 2:25:59.000 --> 2:26:03.000 Just say the twenty two is one is Pennsylvania. I 2:26:03.080 --> 2:26:07.000 can break it down from Philly to penn State to Harrisburg. 2:26:07.760 --> 2:26:10.200 Those are three different stops in that same state. And 2:26:10.320 --> 2:26:13.959 I can do the same exact numbers, probably even more 2:26:14.480 --> 2:26:15.440 and didn't move on. 2:26:15.959 --> 2:26:17.440 So it's no wasting time now. 2:26:17.800 --> 2:26:20.400 So now, Leo Colns told me it's the best time 2:26:20.879 --> 2:26:24.680 to drop music in the music industry because you don't 2:26:24.720 --> 2:26:27.480 have to you know, package it and you know do 2:26:27.600 --> 2:26:27.800 all that. 2:26:28.040 --> 2:26:28.640 I agree with that. 2:26:28.760 --> 2:26:30.880 Actually, yeah, I do agree with that. And it's crazy 2:26:30.920 --> 2:26:33.240 because after this album came out, I was like, yo, 2:26:33.240 --> 2:26:34.720 I just I want to do it one more album. 2:26:34.760 --> 2:26:36.960 That's just like a passion project, bro, And then after that, 2:26:37.040 --> 2:26:40.360 I just want to start. I have thousands, like broad I, 2:26:40.440 --> 2:26:42.879 let's say thousand, but I probably got at least eight 2:26:42.959 --> 2:26:46.240 to nine hundred records, if not more. Wow, that's just 2:26:46.360 --> 2:26:50.240 sitting in hard drives. Not to say that those deserve 2:26:50.320 --> 2:26:51.880 to be out. I'm just saying that the rate that 2:26:51.959 --> 2:26:55.400 I record records and don't release is high, and I'm 2:26:55.480 --> 2:26:57.320 just rated. It's changed the way that I do that 2:26:57.400 --> 2:27:00.120 in terms of like music wise. You know, so I 2:27:00.160 --> 2:27:01.680 think you're right, Bro, I definitely think you're right. 2:27:01.720 --> 2:27:03.120 You know, it's it's not even you just got to 2:27:03.120 --> 2:27:05.520 have fun with it and do do what you want 2:27:05.520 --> 2:27:06.840 to do what you love and have fun with it. 2:27:06.879 --> 2:27:06.959 Bro. 2:27:07.040 --> 2:27:08.560 Give the people the music. Stop holding back. You know 2:27:08.560 --> 2:27:10.240 what I'm saying. I'm in that in that vibe right 2:27:10.280 --> 2:27:11.480 now for sure, like you are. 2:27:12.000 --> 2:27:16.400 You are technically the Kevilliles. Now you are technically Leo 2:27:16.560 --> 2:27:17.160 Cohns like you. 2:27:17.520 --> 2:27:18.040 It's crazy. 2:27:18.120 --> 2:27:20.600 You can show like from what you do from here 2:27:20.680 --> 2:27:23.200 on out, yeah, and follow you can show the next 2:27:23.280 --> 2:27:26.240 generation like yo, listen, we could be signed to ourselves, 2:27:26.959 --> 2:27:29.280 not for sure, you know what I'm saying, and move 2:27:29.640 --> 2:27:30.119 and move. 2:27:30.040 --> 2:27:33.360 Ourselves like it. I'm sorry to put the responsibility on 2:27:33.400 --> 2:27:35.880 you like that. That's fine. I've already taken onto it, 2:27:36.040 --> 2:27:38.560 taken on the respons Yeah, for sure, you know exactly. 2:27:39.000 --> 2:27:41.600 For George, I love it. I love hearing it from you. 2:27:41.760 --> 2:27:43.000 You know what I'm saying. You've been in the game 2:27:43.080 --> 2:27:45.240 for a long time, bro, even like the podcast, like 2:27:45.280 --> 2:27:47.720 this is a whole other space. Yeah, I mean, how 2:27:47.760 --> 2:27:49.720 many hours a day do you have to spend on this? 2:27:51.320 --> 2:27:54.240 We're organic, like if a person comes to Miami with it, 2:27:54.440 --> 2:27:57.160 but we don't like have like schedules, and so you. 2:27:57.160 --> 2:27:59.039 Can do a lot of like this, Like you can 2:27:59.120 --> 2:28:01.840 do this and then go do like you don't have 2:28:01.920 --> 2:28:05.120 to like you're not sitting here all days. So yeah, 2:28:05.120 --> 2:28:06.840 I mean it's it's definitely a space that I've thought 2:28:06.840 --> 2:28:08.520 about tapping into, but like it has to be I 2:28:08.600 --> 2:28:10.400 wanted to be a little different, but like, yeah, bro, 2:28:10.680 --> 2:28:12.320 you know it's it's what it is. 2:28:12.440 --> 2:28:16.000 What I'm trying to tell you is it's catering to 2:28:16.080 --> 2:28:19.560 your audience. That's what I say. It's like, you know, 2:28:19.800 --> 2:28:24.080 like sometimes you know, like I stopped doing. 2:28:23.920 --> 2:28:26.880 Shows right after this ship happened because I don't want 2:28:26.920 --> 2:28:29.000 to go to a show and I'm going to I'm 2:28:29.000 --> 2:28:30.279 going to see this guy's fans. 2:28:30.680 --> 2:28:32.720 I'm going to show with this guy's fans, right, Like, so, 2:28:32.800 --> 2:28:34.080 I don't want to be. I don't want to be. 2:28:34.840 --> 2:28:38.040 I'm jealous, like I want, I want my fans, right yeah, 2:28:38.320 --> 2:28:40.600 if I'm not doing it, And then I say the time, 2:28:41.040 --> 2:28:43.200 you know, I've got to realize. Yes, I started to realize, 2:28:43.480 --> 2:28:46.720 holy shit, certain people, all right, let me let me 2:28:46.760 --> 2:28:47.040 give that. 2:28:47.200 --> 2:28:49.000 Let me I'm sucking up this story. Let me let 2:28:49.040 --> 2:28:49.720 me just give them. 2:28:51.160 --> 2:28:54.199 It's only two times in my whole career twenty seven years, 2:28:54.920 --> 2:28:59.039 I felt like I traded fans. It's only two times, 2:28:59.800 --> 2:29:02.840 like me doing records with Redman and method Man. 2:29:02.920 --> 2:29:05.120 God bless them, I love them. We were the fucking 2:29:05.200 --> 2:29:05.920 same fans. 2:29:07.040 --> 2:29:09.560 It's the same exact fans me doing records with Cameron, 2:29:09.600 --> 2:29:11.880 It's the same exact fans me doing records with Mardy. 2:29:12.480 --> 2:29:15.280 It's the same motherfuckers they brought us that. You use 2:29:15.320 --> 2:29:18.480 the same toothbrush they use the same, the same the 2:29:18.560 --> 2:29:20.040 owner man, and the same lotion. Right. 2:29:20.480 --> 2:29:22.880 Only two times I ever felt I traded fans. When 2:29:22.879 --> 2:29:24.920 I did a record with R Kelly and when I 2:29:24.959 --> 2:29:29.119 did the record with Daddy Yankee. Wow, I felt their 2:29:29.240 --> 2:29:33.160 audience followed me, and I was just like, oh, okay, 2:29:33.320 --> 2:29:37.200 that's what a collaboration means. When you collaborating with the 2:29:37.280 --> 2:29:40.160 person with the same audience, that's not collaborations, that's just 2:29:40.240 --> 2:29:41.279 you being Sometimes. 2:29:41.000 --> 2:29:42.400 She's doing it for the culture, if I get it. 2:29:42.480 --> 2:29:45.080 But yeah, I got a hit record, Yeah I got 2:29:45.200 --> 2:29:45.600 this a hit. 2:29:45.760 --> 2:29:48.359 But it's just if it's just if it's just to collaborate, 2:29:48.640 --> 2:29:50.039 that's it kind of doesn't matter. 2:29:50.600 --> 2:29:52.959 I'm just being honest with you. It's it's a classic 2:29:53.040 --> 2:29:53.400 to y'all. 2:29:53.760 --> 2:29:55.680 If it's not a classes to the people who gives 2:29:55.720 --> 2:29:57.440 a fuck, you should have never throw it out, you 2:29:57.480 --> 2:29:58.200 know what I'm saying, So. 2:29:59.120 --> 2:30:02.880 All right, dam coming out, I'll tell you that. Let's 2:30:02.879 --> 2:30:11.680 take a shot, yo, Mario Man, thank you, man, thank 2:30:11.720 --> 2:30:14.080 you for coming for I wanted to ask him something. 2:30:16.320 --> 2:30:18.040 We take a pee though everybody took a peep of me. 2:30:18.840 --> 2:30:21.480 Still ask the question when you come back. 2:30:23.560 --> 2:30:26.160 I know you give it up for writers who have 2:30:26.879 --> 2:30:30.800 done some writing for you on some of your projects. Yeah, 2:30:31.360 --> 2:30:33.320 are you big into the writing? Have you written for 2:30:33.440 --> 2:30:34.160 anybody else? 2:30:35.080 --> 2:30:35.240 You know? 2:30:36.080 --> 2:30:38.800 I've written records that could one thousand percent for other artists, 2:30:38.920 --> 2:30:42.320 But I've been stingy meant like, because I've been more 2:30:42.360 --> 2:30:44.080 instrumental in my own writing, I'm like, yo, I need 2:30:44.160 --> 2:30:45.879 to really like, I want to get some records off 2:30:45.920 --> 2:30:48.840 that I wrote for me versus like other artists writing 2:30:48.879 --> 2:30:50.920 for me. That's what I've been on lately. But one 2:30:50.959 --> 2:30:53.199 thousand percent you'll you'll probably see in the next. 2:30:53.120 --> 2:30:54.640 Couple of years, like records that I wrote for other 2:30:54.720 --> 2:30:56.680 artists for sure that I just haven't used. 2:30:57.080 --> 2:30:58.800 So I definitely got some fire in the in the 2:30:58.920 --> 2:31:01.280 in the chap for sure, in shame. So yeah, I 2:31:01.320 --> 2:31:03.680 got some fire in the chamber that I'm ready to drop. 2:31:03.800 --> 2:31:08.560 So yeah, we're looking forward to that. Yeah, for sure. 2:31:09.080 --> 2:31:20.840 I just not yo, yo, you're taking us at you 2:31:21.840 --> 2:31:29.520 with my whiskey. I seeing you big yeah, with the biggie, 2:31:30.080 --> 2:31:32.240 I see you. Yeah, man. 2:31:32.320 --> 2:31:35.840 You know from here, you know, we level up generational wealth, 2:31:36.600 --> 2:31:41.400 you know, yeah, to make sure we you know, anywheregotiate 2:31:41.520 --> 2:31:46.160 artists for sure. You know, I'm building so the way 2:31:46.200 --> 2:31:49.959 I see it, right, you know how you know Motown 2:31:50.120 --> 2:31:52.960 was back in the day hmm, when the artists would 2:31:52.959 --> 2:31:55.640 get signed, they had a family for them to come to. 2:31:56.600 --> 2:31:57.959 When I say family, I don't mean. 2:31:57.959 --> 2:32:01.000 Like, oh, little, but they had me, like they had producers, 2:32:01.040 --> 2:32:03.160 they had writers, they had songs already had you were 2:32:03.200 --> 2:32:05.720 coming into a system that was already Not that I 2:32:05.800 --> 2:32:09.000 want to make an artist other artist music, but just 2:32:09.120 --> 2:32:11.879 like a community. So right now I'm building a community 2:32:12.520 --> 2:32:15.520 writers and producers before I sign artists. I feel like 2:32:15.560 --> 2:32:18.040 the community is important, you know what I'm saying, and 2:32:18.120 --> 2:32:22.039 like really building like the foundation of what New Citizen 2:32:22.320 --> 2:32:26.040 is on the music side, not rushing into like new Citizen. 2:32:26.080 --> 2:32:29.879 So I got New Citizen labeled New Citizen, publishing New Citizen. 2:32:29.920 --> 2:32:30.600 It was my own brother. 2:32:31.160 --> 2:32:33.080 So New Citizen I started when I did my first 2:32:33.120 --> 2:32:37.720 independent project. And it's crazy that the name new Citizen, 2:32:38.520 --> 2:32:40.800 you know, it's just how it relates to what's going 2:32:40.840 --> 2:32:42.560 on in the world today, like really becoming a new 2:32:42.640 --> 2:32:44.280 citizen of your own personal universe. 2:32:44.640 --> 2:32:48.400 That's what I created for. Well, yeah, bro, you know 2:32:48.520 --> 2:32:49.480 that's that's the thing. 2:32:49.760 --> 2:32:52.520 I got New Citizen investments where I invest in different projects, 2:32:53.080 --> 2:32:54.840 random shit that you would never expect me to be 2:32:55.480 --> 2:32:58.840 that I'm into, not on the actual like me putting 2:32:58.879 --> 2:33:01.440 out coins, but I've invested in companies that have both 2:33:01.720 --> 2:33:05.720 coins and also have tangible assets as well. So yeah, 2:33:05.879 --> 2:33:08.800 and they're doing like ship all across the board like 2:33:08.920 --> 2:33:09.600 so yeah. 2:33:10.959 --> 2:33:19.160 Yeah yeah, He's like yeah yeah yeah yeah. Bro. It's 2:33:19.200 --> 2:33:22.520 not bad though. So one day I heard you say, 2:33:25.480 --> 2:33:28.800 so let's talk about faster. Yeah yeah, okay, Now what 2:33:28.959 --> 2:33:30.240 form of fast than you talking about? 2:33:30.760 --> 2:33:33.320 So the first fast day was for twenty six days, bro, 2:33:34.000 --> 2:33:37.560 water it was it was it was rich I was 2:33:37.600 --> 2:33:40.240 doing it, or organ cleanse Oh wow. 2:33:40.320 --> 2:33:43.040 So there was a there's a guy that I was 2:33:43.080 --> 2:33:44.760 working at the time. He had developed these. 2:33:46.760 --> 2:33:50.640 Organ supplements cleansing supplements, but in order to do them 2:33:50.680 --> 2:33:52.960 you had to not eat, so it's just like a 2:33:53.080 --> 2:33:53.760 water fast. 2:33:54.959 --> 2:33:58.520 And it was like twenty six days. Well that was 2:33:59.000 --> 2:34:01.720 the twenty six days you fix twenty six days. I 2:34:02.520 --> 2:34:05.480 lasted twenty six days. Yeah, okay, wow, I last it. 2:34:05.600 --> 2:34:05.760 Yeah. 2:34:06.600 --> 2:34:10.760 And you know, I think people are more comfortable speaking 2:34:10.760 --> 2:34:11.600 about these things today. 2:34:11.640 --> 2:34:12.200 You hear about it. 2:34:12.280 --> 2:34:15.720 But it's true with what we talk about in terms 2:34:15.760 --> 2:34:19.760 of really getting to that level of connection with God 2:34:20.000 --> 2:34:23.880 and with yourself that it's impossible to do without fasting. 2:34:24.560 --> 2:34:26.560 There's no other way to. 2:34:29.480 --> 2:34:39.920 Experience there's no other way to experience spiritual awareness and 2:34:40.000 --> 2:34:47.680 evolution like fasting. Besides fasting, honestly, because you're want to 2:34:47.720 --> 2:34:49.600 face so many parts of yourself that you didn't even 2:34:49.640 --> 2:34:51.560 know was there. You're gonna face your damer You're gonna 2:34:51.560 --> 2:34:53.640 face your emotions, You're gonna face your fears. You're gonna 2:34:53.640 --> 2:34:58.280 face your desires, your fleshly desires, your human desires. You're 2:34:58.280 --> 2:35:04.040 gonna face all of you know, all of the things 2:35:04.080 --> 2:35:07.520 that you're so used to, your comfort, everything. It's going 2:35:07.600 --> 2:35:11.560 to push you to levels that well, all you have 2:35:11.640 --> 2:35:15.080 to lean on is guy. And that's the key of fasting, right, 2:35:15.360 --> 2:35:19.640 That's the key is to really connect you to a 2:35:19.720 --> 2:35:24.600 space where consumption isn't even something that you need. I 2:35:24.720 --> 2:35:26.280 do believe that at one point we didn't need to 2:35:26.320 --> 2:35:29.480 consume things to even live when we can live off 2:35:29.520 --> 2:35:33.720 of consciousness alone. But that's the whole other conversation obviously, 2:35:33.800 --> 2:35:35.640 But I do believe that we didn't need to eat, 2:35:35.680 --> 2:35:40.400 We didn't need to consume other living where conscious beings 2:35:40.440 --> 2:35:41.760 to actually survive. 2:35:42.080 --> 2:35:44.600 They used to say fast to feast, sat again. 2:35:44.720 --> 2:35:47.680 They used to say faster feast, like you fast for 2:35:47.800 --> 2:35:50.000 three days and then you go feast and then you 2:35:50.120 --> 2:35:50.680 fast again. 2:35:50.720 --> 2:35:52.840 That's what they said. Okay, back in the days. That's 2:35:52.840 --> 2:35:58.840 where okay, fast thing comes from. Okay, okay, faster feast. Yeah, 2:35:58.920 --> 2:35:59.720 I didn't feast. 2:36:00.240 --> 2:36:02.640 I didn't feast on twenty six days. When I did, 2:36:03.000 --> 2:36:05.400 it was all fruits, it was all that. 2:36:05.959 --> 2:36:06.640 It was soups. 2:36:07.320 --> 2:36:10.080 No, No, it was just a huge freeze and raw 2:36:10.120 --> 2:36:13.320 foods like vegetables and raw But this was also during 2:36:13.360 --> 2:36:16.920 the time where the energy on the planet wasn't as intense. Okay, 2:36:18.360 --> 2:36:21.280 there's a little lighter okay, right now. I don't think 2:36:21.320 --> 2:36:23.560 I could do that because I'm I stepped back into music. 2:36:23.600 --> 2:36:27.160 I stepped back into the you know, I stepped back 2:36:27.160 --> 2:36:29.040 into the field in a different way. I wasn't around 2:36:29.080 --> 2:36:31.040 people at the time. I wasn't nobody was feeding off 2:36:31.080 --> 2:36:33.920 my energy. I wasn't having to give my energy because 2:36:33.920 --> 2:36:36.480 it's like, all right, let me try to bypast this 2:36:36.560 --> 2:36:36.879 hold of. 2:36:38.680 --> 2:36:43.440 We shot. No, I'm trying to buy past ship. 2:36:44.120 --> 2:36:44.480 I got it. 2:36:44.560 --> 2:36:57.280 I gotta do that with my business. Yeah, you asked 2:36:57.280 --> 2:37:03.960 me a question, want to I signed up for this show? Nah? 2:37:04.000 --> 2:37:06.920 But yo, it's it's it's it's Bro's it's simple, bro. 2:37:07.080 --> 2:37:10.840 It's you know, when you start the body and the 2:37:10.920 --> 2:37:17.840 physical of all of the things that make us weak, 2:37:19.520 --> 2:37:21.000 then you tap into your true light. 2:37:21.080 --> 2:37:21.200 Bro. 2:37:21.400 --> 2:37:25.280 This is it's it's something that you can't really arguate it. 2:37:25.400 --> 2:37:27.920 Science is something that our ancestors do. Is something that 2:37:29.120 --> 2:37:31.200 you know, we've even practiced that we don't remember. 2:37:31.280 --> 2:37:36.480 We forget because our memory gets white and ship, you know, 2:37:36.800 --> 2:37:39.280 we forget the things that we were born with. 2:37:39.840 --> 2:37:46.039 You know, our ancestors practice, and so those days starts 2:37:46.080 --> 2:37:48.280 to come back to you. The body starts to eat 2:37:48.320 --> 2:37:49.440 away at all of the bullshit. 2:37:49.560 --> 2:37:55.119 I said, Yeah, that's you fastened. And then those who 2:37:55.200 --> 2:37:58.959 choose to take that route and to take that that that. 2:37:59.320 --> 2:38:05.680 Journey, get initiated into their own level of awareness and spiritual. 2:38:07.040 --> 2:38:07.600 Advancement. 2:38:09.120 --> 2:38:12.240 You know what I'm saying. It's one of the best 2:38:12.280 --> 2:38:13.600 things you can ever do for yourself. I see a 2:38:13.600 --> 2:38:15.280 lot more people doing it today than I've ever seen, 2:38:15.320 --> 2:38:16.080 and I love seeing it. 2:38:16.959 --> 2:38:18.760 I've seen Kevin Gates talk about it as well. 2:38:18.959 --> 2:38:21.240 Kevin Gates talk about it, and Eli Chapter talk about it. 2:38:21.360 --> 2:38:24.680 It's a real thing, bro, It's it's Nigga's not just yeah, 2:38:25.760 --> 2:38:26.200 it's real. 2:38:26.800 --> 2:38:26.960 You know. 2:38:28.000 --> 2:38:32.600 Celibacy fasting, whether you're preserving your energy, you're preserving your energy. 2:38:32.360 --> 2:38:35.520 You're tapping back into your your true self, your true light, 2:38:36.440 --> 2:38:39.120 your true powers. 2:38:39.240 --> 2:38:42.040 I did two years, year and a half. Honestly speaking, 2:38:42.040 --> 2:38:43.280 I did the year and a half. I would say 2:38:43.320 --> 2:38:45.920 two years, but I did the year and a half. Celibacy, Yeah, 2:38:46.160 --> 2:38:47.279 no jergging off neither. 2:38:47.320 --> 2:39:00.240 Nothing bro my nigga nothing, bro nothing nothing nothing. Now 2:39:00.320 --> 2:39:05.640 that's discipline, like he can win man. But it's right. 2:39:06.520 --> 2:39:09.080 But again again, now we were. Now we're going to 2:39:09.360 --> 2:39:11.000 a different side of the interview. All right, let's go 2:39:11.080 --> 2:39:17.080 on over here. Okay, this is not anything. All right, 2:39:17.160 --> 2:39:18.800 let's take it. Let's take it to a whole other level. 2:39:19.200 --> 2:39:25.240 Imagine thousands of years ago or hundreds of years ago, what. 2:39:25.240 --> 2:39:25.920 Everyone want to call it. 2:39:27.040 --> 2:39:28.800 You are a man and you're set to go on 2:39:28.879 --> 2:39:33.480 the journey to another part of the land. You got 2:39:33.560 --> 2:39:34.520 to leave your wife and kids. 2:39:36.080 --> 2:39:38.440 You're going on another part of the land that you're 2:39:38.440 --> 2:39:41.800 set out to find, a new space, a new country, 2:39:41.959 --> 2:39:45.039 a new whatever. And you're emperor. Okaying. 2:39:45.120 --> 2:39:47.160 At the time, it's like, Yo, I need you to 2:39:47.200 --> 2:39:50.240 get on this ship with two hundred other men because 2:39:50.240 --> 2:39:50.800 I believe that. 2:39:50.800 --> 2:39:52.640 There's something on the other side of this water. 2:39:53.600 --> 2:39:58.440 Say one of Abo Bakari's you know generals that's on 2:39:58.560 --> 2:40:00.560 one of those ships that you sent over from right, 2:40:02.320 --> 2:40:03.119 you can't have sex. 2:40:03.760 --> 2:40:05.200 You know how long it's gonna take you to get 2:40:05.200 --> 2:40:05.680 to the west. 2:40:07.520 --> 2:40:10.480 Right, But along that journey, all that energy that you 2:40:10.680 --> 2:40:13.520 are holding is giving you the strength to go on 2:40:13.600 --> 2:40:17.600 this journey. I'm just using this as an example. You're 2:40:17.640 --> 2:40:20.800 not thinking about sex while you trying to survive. You're 2:40:20.840 --> 2:40:22.959 not thinking about sex. You're not thinking about You're thinking 2:40:22.959 --> 2:40:25.199 about Okay, I'm on this voyage. I'm on this journey, 2:40:26.120 --> 2:40:27.960 you know. You know, I think that we think about 2:40:28.120 --> 2:40:29.800 all of these things more because we're in the world 2:40:29.800 --> 2:40:34.120 where we're over extimulated, over stimulated by Instagram. It's with 2:40:34.320 --> 2:40:38.360 the x an escape, you know, a way for you 2:40:38.480 --> 2:40:43.000 to you know, it's like, Nigga, we I work hard today. 2:40:43.280 --> 2:40:45.160 You know, I just did a twenty hour shift. I 2:40:45.200 --> 2:40:46.680 always my head, I want some. 2:40:47.000 --> 2:40:47.400 I want some. 2:40:47.879 --> 2:40:50.440 It's like, nah, Like, as men, we got to redefine 2:40:50.920 --> 2:40:54.320 what true power is, especially in this in this where 2:40:54.360 --> 2:40:57.199 we are now. We need as much energy in quarter 2:40:57.240 --> 2:41:00.840 as we can get to get through is happening right now, 2:41:01.400 --> 2:41:03.440 you know what I'm saying. But that's just the way 2:41:03.440 --> 2:41:03.920 I look at it. 2:41:04.000 --> 2:41:07.520 You know what I'm saying but because it's yeah like 2:41:07.600 --> 2:41:09.520 you you like girls will trying to come on to you, 2:41:09.600 --> 2:41:11.560 don't give them to your your number, none of that. 2:41:11.920 --> 2:41:14.120 Facts. They ain't in the room. You're hard to get. 2:41:14.200 --> 2:41:27.160 That's what's up, spun man. You know what I'm saying, 2:41:28.600 --> 2:41:33.959 because she has set you up though, yeah, set up. 2:41:34.040 --> 2:41:35.960 You ain't been in them headlines, that's what you know 2:41:36.000 --> 2:41:39.720 what I'm saying. I understand the game. Yeah, you understand 2:41:39.800 --> 2:41:46.360 the game. Let me take a shot for that. Understand 2:41:46.400 --> 2:41:49.840 the game. It's about longevity. Bro Okay, I got you 2:41:51.040 --> 2:41:53.120 on my own page, Like, you know what I'm saying. 2:41:53.640 --> 2:41:55.000 You've been doing this ship. 2:41:57.480 --> 2:41:59.640 We ain't even doing this for two weeks, man, So 2:41:59.680 --> 2:42:03.240 you got two weeks off, you said two weeks. 2:42:03.400 --> 2:42:08.080 But two weeks before that, I went to Cairns and 2:42:08.120 --> 2:42:11.320 I went to Monaco. Yes, and this this is how 2:42:11.440 --> 2:42:13.640 rich stay was. I had a drone following me and 2:42:13.720 --> 2:42:14.800 nobody even looked at me. 2:42:16.480 --> 2:42:20.640 You know, it's like it is different the white people like, 2:42:20.640 --> 2:42:28.120 who get a fuck? But it's like ship. But I 2:42:28.640 --> 2:42:31.680 just say that, And it's a new world that we're 2:42:31.680 --> 2:42:36.640 going into. You know, I feel like your energy is 2:42:36.680 --> 2:42:40.360 the new currency. And you know what I'm saying energy. 2:42:41.200 --> 2:42:42.680 I think that was very important what you said. You 2:42:42.879 --> 2:42:43.880 could steal your energy. 2:42:44.240 --> 2:42:46.840 The newer that we're going into is just like you know, 2:42:47.000 --> 2:42:51.520 you you gotta be really aware of everything you know 2:42:51.800 --> 2:42:52.400 that's happening. 2:42:52.440 --> 2:42:55.879 As there's like a big there's there's a wave of. 2:42:58.320 --> 2:43:00.920 You know, shifts that's happened that's going to make a 2:43:01.040 --> 2:43:04.119 lot of people rich really quick. And if your mind 2:43:04.200 --> 2:43:06.120 is not on the frequency of like what's happening and 2:43:06.200 --> 2:43:08.400 thinking for it, you might miss out. You might have 2:43:08.480 --> 2:43:10.920 an idea right now that you're sleeping on or not. 2:43:11.120 --> 2:43:13.120 You or somebody might have an idea right now, but 2:43:13.240 --> 2:43:16.240 because they're focused on feeding their senses and they're not 2:43:16.280 --> 2:43:18.240 even thinking about this ship, they're like, I'll get to it, 2:43:18.360 --> 2:43:19.960 Like nah, Like somebody else wanna do that idea and 2:43:20.040 --> 2:43:23.760 become a billionaire because you're not focused right now. This 2:43:23.920 --> 2:43:25.480 is a time of focus. We don't need more time, 2:43:25.520 --> 2:43:29.560 We need more focus exactly. And so that's how I 2:43:29.640 --> 2:43:31.520 think every day. And I know I don't talk about 2:43:31.560 --> 2:43:32.520 this a lot on my socials. 2:43:32.560 --> 2:43:32.800 I don't. 2:43:32.920 --> 2:43:34.560 I don't talk about it a lot because I feel 2:43:34.640 --> 2:43:40.000 like I don't I don't want to. Social media is 2:43:40.040 --> 2:43:45.199 the Matrix and the devil, you know what I'm saying. 2:43:45.280 --> 2:43:47.000 So it's like I don't I don't like to like, 2:43:47.879 --> 2:43:50.760 I want to keep it pure. I want all my blessings. 2:43:51.280 --> 2:43:52.240 I don't want to mess them up. 2:43:52.280 --> 2:43:53.400 So you don't be on social media. 2:43:53.480 --> 2:43:55.440 I am on social media, but I only post like 2:43:55.600 --> 2:43:58.520 artistic things or like pictures of what I'm doing. I 2:43:58.560 --> 2:44:01.600 don't really post a lot about like the things that 2:44:01.680 --> 2:44:04.200 I'm doing right now. Don't really need social media to work. 2:44:04.440 --> 2:44:06.800 That's what I'm saying. You fast for social media as well. 2:44:07.800 --> 2:44:10.520 Back then, Yeah, I wasn't even on social media doing 2:44:10.560 --> 2:44:12.120 that fast. I wasn't on social media at all. 2:44:12.240 --> 2:44:16.080 Okay, Bro, I was BRO. I wasn't around people, Bro, 2:44:16.400 --> 2:44:16.720 I was. 2:44:16.879 --> 2:44:19.720 I was to myself when niggas be like Nigga would 2:44:19.760 --> 2:44:22.720 use that for I was literally in a whole over 2:44:22.800 --> 2:44:26.160 realm of existence really, Like I had just moved to 2:44:26.360 --> 2:44:28.480 La from Baltimore. I moved away from Baltimore because I 2:44:28.480 --> 2:44:30.080 had to or I was on dio B and jail 2:44:30.280 --> 2:44:34.320 right and so I just needed to completely shift my 2:44:34.480 --> 2:44:37.200 perspective on life, you know. 2:44:37.400 --> 2:44:39.680 And I think people think like just because you've had 2:44:39.720 --> 2:44:43.280 success or just because you've had like like, nah, like 2:44:43.400 --> 2:44:44.959 real shit be happening in life where. 2:44:44.840 --> 2:44:47.640 You actually have to preserve yourself in order to survive 2:44:47.760 --> 2:44:49.920 this shit life' is life, real life shit, you know, 2:44:51.520 --> 2:44:51.760 And so. 2:44:53.800 --> 2:45:00.879 So I can be here today, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, 2:45:01.080 --> 2:45:02.400 it's real, bro, It's real. 2:45:02.959 --> 2:45:03.120 You know. 2:45:03.480 --> 2:45:06.160 Don't take for granted all of the people you know, 2:45:06.400 --> 2:45:08.960 like the nine nineteen Keys of the World and all 2:45:09.000 --> 2:45:11.080 these other brothers that are out here, like really like 2:45:11.200 --> 2:45:14.440 trying to like explain to people, like yo, what the 2:45:14.480 --> 2:45:16.039 future is about to look like, because it's real. 2:45:16.120 --> 2:45:20.119 It's a real thing, you know. I just it's it's 2:45:21.240 --> 2:45:21.920 it's real, man. 2:45:21.959 --> 2:45:24.200 You know, if you're called to do something in your 2:45:24.240 --> 2:45:25.920 spirit is calling you to try something new or do 2:45:26.040 --> 2:45:28.280 something new or change your you know, the way you 2:45:28.400 --> 2:45:31.680 live in listen because you might be one of the 2:45:31.760 --> 2:45:35.760 ones that's actually supposed to liberate you're you know, your 2:45:35.840 --> 2:45:36.360 soul family. 2:45:36.480 --> 2:45:38.840 You never know, would you ever do like a country 2:45:38.879 --> 2:45:41.360 album where I do a country album, but I do 2:45:41.440 --> 2:45:42.840 any type of album. I can do any type of 2:45:42.959 --> 2:45:45.520 music if it's with the right producers and the right energy. 2:45:45.879 --> 2:45:49.279 For sure. Yeah. Absolutely, Like say. 2:45:49.160 --> 2:45:52.760 I played it role and like it was like I 2:45:52.840 --> 2:45:58.120 don't know, you know, uh, talking about when the country 2:45:58.200 --> 2:46:00.240 music was first starting to kick off in the black community. 2:46:00.440 --> 2:46:02.200 You know what I'm saying, I would play I were 2:46:02.240 --> 2:46:05.040 playing it in the movies. Yeah for sure. I'm just saying, like, 2:46:05.200 --> 2:46:07.080 way is to tell different you know, because I feel 2:46:07.080 --> 2:46:09.440 like that story haven't been told yet black people in 2:46:09.520 --> 2:46:10.080 country music. 2:46:10.240 --> 2:46:14.080 Yeah, black rock and roll has been told because it's 2:46:14.240 --> 2:46:17.400 actually documented that black people actually invented rock and roll. 2:46:18.120 --> 2:46:24.040 Yeah, it's been told in the movie. Yeah, doubt for sure. Yeah, yeah, 2:46:32.680 --> 2:46:34.160 come on, come on for sure. 2:46:38.600 --> 2:46:38.800 Yeah. 2:46:39.160 --> 2:46:41.080 So anything else you want to tell your fans before 2:46:41.080 --> 2:46:41.840 you get about of here. 2:46:42.160 --> 2:46:47.560 Man, that's bro. I mean, we just celebrated Mario. 2:46:48.640 --> 2:46:48.840 Listen. 2:46:49.520 --> 2:46:52.200 Sometimes be a good shoot on the rais the way 2:46:52.280 --> 2:46:56.360 you take shots. You know why we celebrating the career. 2:46:56.600 --> 2:46:57.520 I appreciate, man. 2:46:57.720 --> 2:46:59.600 Let me just tell you something, man, you appreciate it. 2:47:00.080 --> 2:47:01.920 They say, go where you appreciate it or not where 2:47:01.920 --> 2:47:02.600 you tolerated. 2:47:02.720 --> 2:47:05.840 Yeah, let's let you know. Thank you appreciate it and 2:47:05.920 --> 2:47:09.040 you celebrate. Appreciate you, and you motherfucking appreciate you. 2:47:09.800 --> 2:47:13.680 Late and elevated. I represent us, you know what I'm saying. 2:47:13.800 --> 2:47:17.040 I represent strength, I represent focus. I represent you know 2:47:17.240 --> 2:47:21.040 US alignment, Bro, you know New Citizen, and what I 2:47:21.160 --> 2:47:24.720 plan to do over the next few years hopefully sets 2:47:24.760 --> 2:47:26.119 the standards for like new. 2:47:26.080 --> 2:47:27.080 Artists coming to the game. 2:47:27.160 --> 2:47:27.280 Bro. 2:47:27.760 --> 2:47:29.200 A lot of people about to start making a lot 2:47:29.240 --> 2:47:32.440 of money real fast if they're focused. And I feel like, 2:47:32.520 --> 2:47:35.760 you know, invest your money, you know, make relationships, be 2:47:35.879 --> 2:47:38.680 uncomfortable a little bit. Sometimes sometimes a relationship that you're 2:47:38.720 --> 2:47:41.440 uncomfortable with can can take you into doors that you 2:47:41.520 --> 2:47:44.240 know you normally wouldn't get into. You know, invest your bread, bro, 2:47:44.520 --> 2:47:50.320 be smart things, generational wealth. It's so crazy because I 2:47:50.480 --> 2:47:54.200 had wrote something down on a vision board when I 2:47:54.240 --> 2:47:56.320 came back from the UK, and I had a lot 2:47:56.400 --> 2:47:58.960 of energy that was different. And I believe that whenever 2:47:59.040 --> 2:48:01.680 you have a big shift of energy is a time, 2:48:01.720 --> 2:48:03.560 whether it's negative or positive, it's a time for you 2:48:03.640 --> 2:48:06.480 to manifest something powerful. Then you can transmit that energy 2:48:06.480 --> 2:48:08.560 into something that you want for yourself. And I wrote 2:48:08.600 --> 2:48:10.720 down on this vision board something I wanted, and literally 2:48:10.760 --> 2:48:13.320 the next week it came to fruition, Bro, and I 2:48:13.440 --> 2:48:15.160 was a part of something that was really big. And 2:48:17.800 --> 2:48:20.560 everybody can do it in your own world. 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