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Speaker 3: Since he come out, he has been a heart throb.
Speaker 3: He has been taking these ladies hearts. Uh, he has
Speaker 3: been making babies. You know what that's like. It's the
Speaker 3: ultimate like like respect, like when a person can come
Speaker 3: up to you like you know, you know, I meane,
Speaker 3: some kids your ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I know that's what they be doing to them. He
Speaker 3: got two Billboard Awards. He's fresh off a tall He's smell.
Speaker 1: Like a gat in Europe because that's that money smells.
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Speaker 3: all this. We're gonna drink because he got the illest
Speaker 3: drink order. He ordered Kmis Kazazu and he said a
Speaker 3: little bit of Chef Parkinet. But he's a legend, he's
Speaker 3: an icon. He's been down, he's been doing this. He
Speaker 3: can can drop an album every five years. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: His fan's gonna stick with them. Yeah, they're gonna ride
Speaker 3: with him and every time he comes out, they're gonna
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Speaker 1: Beautiful, Thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Now you just came off to all Europe. Now all right, now,
Speaker 3: this is this is me now my experience when I
Speaker 3: go to Europe. Sometimes I feel like the fans are
Speaker 3: more appreciative.
Speaker 4: Yes, And it's not even like a thing where it's
Speaker 4: like fans here aren't.
Speaker 1: The culture is just different. They live different, They think about.
Speaker 4: Things different over there, like over here, were like, yo,
Speaker 4: we're going how we get into this bread today we're
Speaker 4: trying to become entrepreneurs. Everybody here is is just on
Speaker 4: this hype of you know what I mean, getting to
Speaker 4: it and survival and this and this and that. There
Speaker 4: are people a lot of places they just living like
Speaker 4: they're chilling, like they riding bikes. Yes, you might go
Speaker 4: down the street and it's like a bike like you
Speaker 4: see a couple of cars with sheep, see bikes park,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like they just
Speaker 4: when they come out to enjoy the music, they come
Speaker 4: out to really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: They get there early. Everybody's injured, everybody's in the building.
Speaker 4: You're going to nine, everybody's there by eight o'clock at
Speaker 4: they see so setting up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's just different. It's different.
Speaker 4: The love is different. And they don't see you what
Speaker 4: it's talking to. Go to them all, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Go to the club and see their favorite
Speaker 4: artists every time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, it's just different. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The first time I went to Lenox Mall, I remember
Speaker 3: it was like two or three people in Atlanta, the
Speaker 3: Olynics Wall, two or three people in the More. Now
Speaker 3: you go to the Lions Mall, everybody's a star.
Speaker 1: Nobody gets nobody in America. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: so where's your favorite place to perform? I'm here abroad man,
Speaker 1: Australia and Africa bro okay and and a crazy thing
Speaker 1: Africa or so South South Africa. Ship let's go.
Speaker 4: But no, bro, I would say I would say that
Speaker 4: that that tripp in Africa was crazy because it was
Speaker 4: me Sean Paul Farrell Snoop, my first time going on
Speaker 4: the international tour with like those type of legends before.
Speaker 1: But for that it was like I went on tour
Speaker 1: Destiny's Child overseason. That was my first like to be doing.
Speaker 4: We were doing like fifty thousand seaters, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So it was just like it introduced me
Speaker 4: to African the way I've never seen it before. So
Speaker 4: that for me, it was just like a whole culture
Speaker 4: shop just seeing us that many black people in one place,
Speaker 4: right and then also just like the different mixtures of
Speaker 4: people and just it was just beautiful.
Speaker 1: That was crazy about Yeah you're good, but so you
Speaker 1: always wanted to be?
Speaker 5: That was that was?
Speaker 1: That was it? Man. I don't think I had a choice, bro.
Speaker 4: You know, my mother when I was a kid, right
Speaker 4: from Baltimore, when I was a kid, bro my mother.
Speaker 4: She was a single mom, right, so she we did
Speaker 4: everything together. When I was younger, she used to cut
Speaker 4: my head, like she didn't take me to start taking
Speaker 4: me to the barber shops. So I was like ten
Speaker 4: right when she first figured out I could sing.
Speaker 1: It was actually, did Mama fuck you up?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 1: She was nice? She was nice because haircut with the
Speaker 1: bowl going like that's not really a favor. And she
Speaker 1: used to give me the skin fait like the ball
Speaker 1: fade like she was nice with it.
Speaker 4: But like you know, when I was like four years old,
Speaker 4: she got me this mic that tuned into the radio
Speaker 4: like remember Mike used to. She was sleep one morning
Speaker 4: she woke up early and I probably had on some
Speaker 4: Missmax socks and I hadn't like some some shorts or something.
Speaker 4: I was in the living room just singing, but I
Speaker 4: was holding a note. I was like, you know, singing
Speaker 4: along with the radio. And she was like, yo, he
Speaker 4: my son got it, like he can. He can hold
Speaker 4: her tongue like he don't know the words, but he
Speaker 4: in the key. And so from that point on, she
Speaker 4: was like, you know, she started.
Speaker 1: This is what she told me.
Speaker 4: She started keeping music around me to keep me away
Speaker 4: from all the other stuff that was in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. My family grew up
Speaker 1: in it. It was you know, we was outside Baltimore,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was like, wow,
Speaker 1: feel me.
Speaker 4: And so that was her way of like giving me
Speaker 4: a passion. Like you know, a lot of times you
Speaker 4: grew up with y'all got kids. Happy father Day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, don't look at it,
Speaker 1: don't look at that work, don't work give yourself a
Speaker 1: bullshit damn sorry. And so when you picked up the microphone,
Speaker 1: did you already have some music in? Like pick up
Speaker 1: random now.
Speaker 4: So my mother used to play keys there you go.
Speaker 4: So when she was pregnant, she was playing the keys.
Speaker 4: Obviously I was feeling the frequency of that right, it
Speaker 4: was in there. She could sing a little bit older.
Speaker 4: My father sing too, even though we didn't grow up.
Speaker 4: I didn't grow up with him, but the talent was there.
Speaker 4: But for her, Like I was about to say, it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you don't know what your kid's gonna
Speaker 4: be into, sports, whatever, whatever. Where you see something that
Speaker 4: your kid love, like you want to start You're like cool.
Speaker 1: Cat, I got one.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, let me get them because
Speaker 4: you got to give kids something that because if not,
Speaker 4: they get into you know, the outside, they getting the shipped.
Speaker 4: You don't know where we're gonna go anyway. So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's when I developed. Now when I turned like nine,
Speaker 4: in tense, she started taking me to the barber shop.
Speaker 4: The first time I got paid singer was in a barbershop,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So she would take me,
Speaker 4: you know where I was singing birthdays because of birthdays
Speaker 4: all that went to the barbershop and she's like, no,
Speaker 4: you're gonna want you say? She like nah, I'm like nah,
Speaker 4: I don't want to sing. Like I'm sorry. She's like,
Speaker 4: listen the same way you sing around your family. Don't
Speaker 4: be scaredy of Freddy.
Speaker 1: Of talent, you know.
Speaker 4: So that's say that day I sung and I got
Speaker 4: paid like twenty thirty hours from East Barboro. So that's
Speaker 4: my first payday as a you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And so who don't like moneyga? I was like, all
Speaker 4: had cool, this is I'm gonna do this. But that
Speaker 4: was a setup for them to pay you. It was
Speaker 4: a set up for you to sing and that pays
Speaker 4: you because you would It was like a little right.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, little homie whatever.
Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, bro, I think singing just like
Speaker 4: my grandmother used to play Marvin Gay and gospel music
Speaker 4: and you know all the old school, old school My
Speaker 4: mother used to play hip hop, R and B pop,
Speaker 4: biggie you know what I'm saying, Joe R. Kelly Voice
Speaker 4: to men. So I grew up around so much good,
Speaker 4: authentic music, like it's just in me like that.
Speaker 1: So you knew that was a microphone. You knew my
Speaker 1: show in absolutely one.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you, right because coming from Baltimore
Speaker 3: right now at the time, of course, you know, New
Speaker 3: York dominated the music scene for so long, and it
Speaker 3: was like, you know, Jersey had run, that Philly had run.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Baltimore like kind of almost stopped short,
Speaker 3: like you know, after Delaware. Like, so it was was
Speaker 3: it difficult being from Baltimore or was it easier? Because
Speaker 3: you got people like Kevin Lows and Drew Hill and
Speaker 3: they're saying like, okay, I'm following in those footsteps.
Speaker 4: So I'm asking you, now, Baltimore got a lot of talent,
Speaker 4: a lot of hitting talent. You know, I think back
Speaker 4: then it was even crazy, like in the RMB scene
Speaker 4: because Drew Hill, they obviously they put bottom on the map.
Speaker 1: M V wise, I didn't know Kevin Lowes back then,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I met Kevin once I became, you know, an artist,
Speaker 4: and I started.
Speaker 1: Moving around, but like he was very instrumental in the
Speaker 1: music scene obviously.
Speaker 4: But when I did my first talent show in Baltimore,
Speaker 4: I didn't even understand the talent that was there until
Speaker 4: I seen it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this is crazy because.
Speaker 4: I was the youngest. I was like the youngest artists
Speaker 4: on the talent show. Everybody else was older, you know.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that the Baltimore talent scene is
Speaker 4: just it's just it's just so far removed from where
Speaker 4: everything is happening at Like if people with the same
Speaker 4: talent whereas in LA or closer to New York, like
Speaker 4: you would see more automore artists, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Or if if niggas actually make it out of the city.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you, I feel so there's
Speaker 4: a lot of artists that you know, don't make it
Speaker 4: out or you know, it's talented. If I didn't have
Speaker 4: if I didn't get adopted when I was thirteen, I
Speaker 4: don't know where I would be today, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I was blessed. I didn't realize it
Speaker 4: was a blessing then, but I was blessed to you know,
Speaker 4: for somebody to see my talent and say, Yo, this
Speaker 4: kid is worth worth investing in.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure, I'm asking
Speaker 1: hypothetical questions I got from the Wire. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Every time I just watch the Wire and someone get
Speaker 3: locked up, they will always say the Baltimore guys, they say,
Speaker 3: if you fuck me, I throw you in there with
Speaker 3: the DC guys right right then vice versa. They would say,
Speaker 3: this is kind of like the same thing. Like I
Speaker 3: had to like I grew up thinking Baltimore and DC,
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, kind of like what I saw that
Speaker 3: in Hawaii. I was like, holy shit, is that is
Speaker 3: that like a thing out there?
Speaker 1: Like Baltimore and DC.
Speaker 4: Just don't get It's not a get along thing. It's
Speaker 4: just a differ for the world. You know, d C culture.
Speaker 4: D C is more you know, go go politics is
Speaker 4: it's people there are more business minded, you know, people
Speaker 4: are exposed that they're surrounded by a system that's built
Speaker 4: on structure and numbers, and so it's just different. But
Speaker 4: you still got the streets, the White House and white Craft,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You still got the streets.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's just a different culture altogether. Okay, But yeah,
Speaker 4: I like DC though.
Speaker 3: It's drinking time. I believes little you can't you go
Speaker 3: do some flyers chemists.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and then go for.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, the only person that just applies you the
Speaker 3: older came was who I forgot, But there was someone
Speaker 3: opens because the first couple of stores that we went
Speaker 3: to only two bottles of opus, and we.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, yeah, are you in the old school
Speaker 1: of music?
Speaker 5: Like that?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: I'm sure's like it's the foundation, bro, Like, it's really
Speaker 4: the foundation, you know. And if you listen to a
Speaker 4: lot of R and B today that's popular or that's
Speaker 4: becoming popular, it's infused with you know, old school feelings,
Speaker 4: infused with soul's infused with alternatives, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's the foundation. If it wasn't for I
Speaker 4: wouldn't call myself the R and B Emperor, which is
Speaker 4: something I just started saying this year. If I didn't
Speaker 4: have with that, you know what I'm saying, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: call myself that if I didn't have the information. Because
Speaker 4: I have the information, and because I know I can
Speaker 4: go into this pocket in that pocket, you know, and
Speaker 4: still be authentic to who I am today, I can
Speaker 4: call myself the Army. I mean that's because that's because
Speaker 4: I grew up listening to everything from gospel music to
Speaker 4: hip hop to Patty LaBelle, Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole,
Speaker 4: and then once, once I got a karaoke machine when
Speaker 4: I was eleven years old. Bro Like, I started going
Speaker 4: and I started stealing my mother CDs. I started stealing
Speaker 4: my gro you know see these you can scratch it
Speaker 4: and get your ass like you know that happened to
Speaker 4: me a couple of times. I go to school, I
Speaker 4: got pennies and candy in my pocket, and Stevie want
Speaker 4: to see I come home, Mario, where is my Stevie
Speaker 4: want to see the I'm like, I don't got it.
Speaker 4: I don't got it. I tried to go sneaking in there.
Speaker 4: It's scratches everywhere all over later on. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, so it's yeah, man, it's it's just
Speaker 4: it's in me all the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now one of your one of my dope songs,
Speaker 1: it's Brave my Hair. Yes, sir, I gotta say brush
Speaker 1: my hand now, but yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So so I mean I was going to say, how
Speaker 3: did you come up with that song? It's like kind
Speaker 3: of like an oxy man, right, but let's let's get
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 1: For show for sure. This was I was in New York.
Speaker 1: We recorded Squad Studios, Quad Studios, Home, Qua Studios Studio.
Speaker 1: To get home, I'm still.
Speaker 4: There, I got so. I had just got back from justin.
Speaker 4: Firm was already out, I believe, and we was already
Speaker 4: starting moving on the album wasn't out yet. I just
Speaker 4: got back from doing some press runs. But I had
Speaker 4: been away from home for a minutes. So my hair
Speaker 4: was half in and half out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And normally I would be able to go back home
Speaker 4: get my hair braided by my normal you know girl.
Speaker 4: It was like this was me getting used to being
Speaker 4: on the road traveler, so I had to get different
Speaker 4: people to do my hair. I bring and I was
Speaker 4: just mad that day. I didn't even want to work.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to record. I'm like, bro, I'm like, nah, Bro,
Speaker 4: I said, I don't feel like working right now, Like
Speaker 4: I got to get.
Speaker 1: My hair braided. So herl Lily, he in the studio
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 4: We having this whole conversation shout out to her lady,
Speaker 4: realistic writer. And so the whole time I'm talking to
Speaker 4: him how I feel about it, he writing notes in
Speaker 4: his head. I leave the studio, I come back in.
Speaker 4: He already got a verse on the chorus when you
Speaker 4: look at me something to let me see.
Speaker 6: A fifteen year old getting his dough back came forth
Speaker 6: to the studios, hopping o limbuses, rocking the lake.
Speaker 1: Like he already started, like he's he's he illustrates your
Speaker 1: life in a different way, Like he's one of the
Speaker 1: most prolific writers. It just came out of.
Speaker 4: Those conversations, bro. Just you know, it was just it
Speaker 4: was just raw, raw energy. Bro, Like my whole first
Speaker 4: album was written like that. That's amazing, except just a Friend.
Speaker 1: That was the song I Ain't Gonna Lie. That was
Speaker 1: an usher single.
Speaker 3: Damn you write my interview that was question because First off,
Speaker 3: just a friend. Did you ever meet biz biz Mark?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: I met Biz on the first video shoot. Bro. He
Speaker 1: came to Baltimore. Bro we shot in the video resting
Speaker 1: piece of my own man, biz bro rest piece of swimmer.
Speaker 1: You can't. Business said this bad luck if you pour
Speaker 1: your own drinks. Oh that's just okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: my back can't. This is a song, yes, yes, yes
Speaker 1: to Canton right wine, So you that's healthier for you, right? Healthy?
Speaker 1: Follow my brother solo to you man, Yeah, to you.
Speaker 1: You're not for sure. I feel that. I feel that. Okay,
Speaker 1: but hold on, so you met Biz because yeah, because
Speaker 1: you got sim it. Don't fellow so little my first
Speaker 1: drink in two weeks. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Soz Biz came to the first video shoot.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: He flew to Baltimore. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 4: flew like to the city. We shot the video in
Speaker 4: the city, like you know. So he really he really
Speaker 4: helped me carry this record and co sign it on
Speaker 4: a different level because obviously it was originally his and
Speaker 4: it came out the year I was born, which is
Speaker 4: actually crazy nineteen eighty six. The original justin Friend I
Speaker 4: learned that later, so it was like it was just
Speaker 4: like a full circle moment. But having been a part
Speaker 4: of that record for me was important to like merge
Speaker 4: the generations and it's important.
Speaker 1: Did you already knew who Biz was at that moment?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 4: I mean I'm fourteen. Yeah, yeah, I just turned fourteen
Speaker 4: years old, So it was like of course, of course,
Speaker 4: but like they put me onto it, but I didn't
Speaker 4: know originally for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the fact that you listen like that, that
Speaker 3: shows the grown man and you even as a kid,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Man, I grew up fast.
Speaker 4: But I was also around like I had some ghosts
Speaker 4: around me, Bro, Warren, Camel, Herold, Lily. You know, I
Speaker 4: was working with the underdogs back then. There was the
Speaker 4: staple of R and B back then, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It was like if you ain't have an
Speaker 4: underdog song, it's like he wasn't really making an R
Speaker 4: and B album, you know what.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I just I was around a lot of ghosts,
Speaker 4: but I was I was learning so much. I think
Speaker 4: that's a big difference too. Like today it's like not
Speaker 4: a lot of artists have a lot of ghosts around them.
Speaker 4: That's kind of putting them on game, right, They just like,
Speaker 4: how can we make this person hot?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I was soaking up so much information from everybody
Speaker 4: on top of the fact that I already had my
Speaker 4: own understanding of what real music was, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So all of that kind of that was
Speaker 4: my artist development, like being in the studio. The first
Speaker 4: record I did was on a soundtrack. It was on
Speaker 4: the soundtrack for Doctor Dolittle Too soundtrack. It was called Tamika,
Speaker 4: Me and Fab And my first time going into a
Speaker 4: real session, I was in there for sixteen hours in
Speaker 4: a session. Sixteen hours my first real session. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm crying in a session. I'm like twelve thirteen at
Speaker 4: the time. I'm like, I don't want to do this
Speaker 4: no more. This ain't for me, right, But you know
Speaker 4: it was. It was those moments of like really being
Speaker 4: broken into like you know what it is to really
Speaker 4: make me you want to do this for real? You
Speaker 4: have to do these hours, put these hours in you
Speaker 4: only you only sixteen hours out of the ten thousand hours.
Speaker 1: You need right here. What you're going to do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was all of that, bro, Like when
Speaker 3: I listen to certain joints, like listen to Drowning right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I asked you you coldest, right, and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: do your music come out better?
Speaker 1: Like when you go through drama. It's like, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3: Asking that because you know, when you listen to a
Speaker 3: hip hop album, right, you see a person For most part,
Speaker 3: ninety percent of us, like this is things that we
Speaker 3: went through, right, these are things that we went through.
Speaker 3: All we're going through at the time, and it's like
Speaker 3: R and B. It's like sometimes we be likeing to
Speaker 3: feel y'all pain.
Speaker 1: But I think pain is something that connects us all bro.
Speaker 4: Like like I'm gonna come back to this, but like
Speaker 4: if you think about pain, like most of the things
Speaker 4: that we that go viral, like if something pop up
Speaker 4: on your feet and it's two people fighting, you're gonna
Speaker 4: watch it versus if you see two people just talking.
Speaker 4: Like like like I think that that that destruction is
Speaker 4: a part of life. But it's about why is it destructive?
Speaker 4: Is it destructive? Because it's just a storm that lacked
Speaker 4: the treat that was a destructive because we're unstable, imbalanced,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. I think pain is
Speaker 4: a part of life, bro, and it's a part of
Speaker 4: life that if it wasn't for my pain, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be here today sitting at this table with you.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 1: My pain is my light, bro, My darkness is my light.
Speaker 4: I took everything that I went through, everything that I learned,
Speaker 4: even to this day, and I transmitted into energy that's useful.
Speaker 1: You got to transmute all your pain into useful energy.
Speaker 1: So that's what music is. I think that it's therapeutic too,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 4: But yeah, when I go through Drowning was a song
Speaker 4: about you know, being in love with two women, right, yes,
Speaker 4: and drowning in one you know, ocean of love and
Speaker 4: drowning in another.
Speaker 1: Tears and pain.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: So, as men, especially when you're growing up, you go
Speaker 4: through that, like you you know, you have a lot
Speaker 4: of you have more options, right, being an artist, you
Speaker 4: got more options.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: It was just a real thing, And I feel like
Speaker 4: that's why I felt like that when you listen to it,
Speaker 4: it was like it's easier to write, right when you
Speaker 4: just talk about the truth, the.
Speaker 1: Drama about how about one one woman man, m Okay,
Speaker 1: now you're going to You're like that.
Speaker 4: That's like you said, like you lawyer, right, like yeah,
Speaker 4: that's like that's my song then, yeah, that's like that's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's saying both.
Speaker 4: It's saying that that she's a uh like she is
Speaker 4: ready for one man and ready to move into a
Speaker 4: certain period point in her life where she's ready for
Speaker 4: everything all that comes with and you saying that I
Speaker 4: recognize that.
Speaker 1: You are and I'm ready to be with one woman.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's like, I think that was just a player on
Speaker 4: words because I was lying, I going to hold you out.
Speaker 1: I was at that time. I was like, yo, let
Speaker 1: me just make a good I was like, sometimes you
Speaker 1: got to be creative, you know.
Speaker 4: I was inspired just by I'm a very imaginative person.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 1: I'mna be honest.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of my childhood is stripped
Speaker 4: from me, you know what I'm saying. So a lot
Speaker 4: of times I just imagine love because I didn't grow up.
Speaker 4: My grandmother died when I was twelve. Right now, she
Speaker 4: was like really like my second mom, it's not my
Speaker 4: first mom in terms of her presence.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: And so you know, my idea of love is kind
Speaker 4: of a little I'm still learning what that is, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm still learning like what that is in terms of
Speaker 4: like a partner in life. I look around and I
Speaker 4: see love. Nature is love, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: Self love, you know, fastening and restraining from certain things.
Speaker 1: That's self.
Speaker 4: There's so many different versions of love, right, But in
Speaker 4: terms of partnership, you know, that's something I'm still I'm still.
Speaker 1: Learning about you.
Speaker 4: I mean, so music is the way for me to imagine,
Speaker 4: like all right, let me just let me imagine what just.
Speaker 1: What it feels like. I didn't let me love you.
Speaker 1: I didn't know about man, you make me go down.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna watch that week about that's about working
Speaker 1: with Gucci man break up. Yeah, But wasn't that when
Speaker 1: he first came home from or was that? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's when he first came home.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: I just got very hard to get this game, for sure.
Speaker 4: I'll be trying to call him now for Nigga pop
Speaker 4: out at this show. You know you can't, Gucci, yeah
Speaker 4: right now? But you know he family man. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying doing his thing. I'm proudly gucci, but bro,
Speaker 4: that that was.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I recorded the record Atlanta with with Sean Garrett. Right,
Speaker 4: I was in I was in Baltimore at the time,
Speaker 4: and at the time my manager Jay Erin called me. Right,
Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, we were working on this album. I
Speaker 4: think that's on the that's on the DNA album. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're working on DNA and uh, we was just looking
Speaker 4: for a record to lead it off. You We was
Speaker 4: looking for a record to really tie everything in, you know,
Speaker 4: something that was like abstract and different and not all
Speaker 4: the way down the R and B lane, but just
Speaker 4: a little bit left. And at the time we already
Speaker 4: did like two records with Sean Garrett for the album.
Speaker 4: One of another record made it called me, yo, I
Speaker 4: think we got it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: At the time, he's my manager. He's like, yo, I
Speaker 4: think I think we got we got one. He's like,
Speaker 4: you gotta fly to Atlanta like a sap. I said,
Speaker 4: it's worth like find back. I just left Atlanta, Like nah,
Speaker 4: you got it.
Speaker 1: You gotta come cut this. This this is crazy.
Speaker 4: So I go to atletter go in the studio with Sean.
Speaker 4: He jumping all off the tables. You know, Sean, he
Speaker 4: you know what I mean this he going crazy and
Speaker 4: he pressed play. As soon as I hit the beat drop,
Speaker 4: I knew it was.
Speaker 1: I knew what it was like. This is one of
Speaker 1: the ones. I knew what breakup was when I first
Speaker 1: heard it. Banley, that's produced it, bigger By.
Speaker 4: That's sho He sent the record. Yes, well, no, Sean,
Speaker 4: the director ain't gonna lie okay. He wrote the record.
Speaker 4: He wrote the record, and this was a specific specifically
Speaker 4: supposed to be like my single, like they were in
Speaker 4: a session to work on my album.
Speaker 1: He wrote the record.
Speaker 4: When I cut the record, Sean like, I ain't gonna
Speaker 4: lie real, like I was gonna keep this.
Speaker 1: As you're going to take you back. He came across
Speaker 1: his mind to think about taking the best. Want to
Speaker 1: let you know. You gotta understand. But at this time
Speaker 1: me and Sean was like that was like my brother,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So like a lot of times, you work with writers
Speaker 4: and people and it's very political. You go in, you
Speaker 4: work and it's you know, nice to meet, you do
Speaker 4: the record, you leave. Me and Sean was outside together.
Speaker 4: We was going to clubs. We was going to strip
Speaker 4: like we was turning we was turning up, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So it's like we was having fun.
Speaker 4: So it's like at this point, it's like your homie saying, like, Nigga,
Speaker 4: let me just I'm gonna just stand there.
Speaker 1: At the time, I'm like, okay, cool, after you dropped
Speaker 1: the vocals, Yeah yeah, I can see yeah, that could
Speaker 1: be good. And so you know, and uh and so
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 4: We're just going back and forth on it because at
Speaker 4: the time, he was also working on the he's working
Speaker 4: on a record for another big artist. I'm going to
Speaker 4: mention the names right now and this moment, but he's
Speaker 4: working with another male artist. At the time, he was
Speaker 4: working on the R and B album hip hop album,
Speaker 4: and there was another record that I wanted that he
Speaker 4: had for that person.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, let me get this record
Speaker 1: that person. That person was that guy exactly, And.
Speaker 4: So I was like, Nigga, let me get this, Like,
Speaker 4: let me get He's like, Nigga, if I give this
Speaker 4: record this, Nigga killed me.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: He's like, I can't give you this record, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, But I'll call make a call for you.
Speaker 4: So we was kind of negotiating. I was like, all right, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: this is about another record. But I said, if I
Speaker 4: get that, then it's like, if I do this, you
Speaker 4: got to give me that records. I can't huh the
Speaker 4: person I told you about earlier, so and so for
Speaker 4: so this was you know, this was, but it ain't
Speaker 4: end up happening. I ended up getting that record. I
Speaker 4: ended up staying on the record. It got crazy, right
Speaker 4: we you know what I'm saying. We ain't like throw
Speaker 4: hands or none. But we was going back and forth
Speaker 4: and he was like, man, this was my single. And
Speaker 4: so when I finished the record, He's like, all right, bet,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Go get Gucci on it for you. I say, Nigga
Speaker 1: Gucci like that. He's like, nig he just came home.
Speaker 4: Cut, I said, because we was thinking about features, and
Speaker 4: I said, I bet. I said, let's let's let's make
Speaker 4: it happen. You know what I'm saying, Let's let's make
Speaker 4: it happen. You cant Gucci on it, We make the
Speaker 4: play and I'll go, I'll go figure it out with
Speaker 4: the label.
Speaker 1: You feel me? Mind you I'm coming from like love
Speaker 1: songs crying out for me. You know what I mean, just.
Speaker 4: Record, you know, no records. But it's like breakup was
Speaker 4: a different. You gotta under stay, you know what it's
Speaker 4: like being signed to a label. You got to convince
Speaker 4: niggas that this is the move. Yeah, I need you
Speaker 4: all to spend some bread and y'all might not believe
Speaker 4: in it, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. So that's what happened. That's what ended
Speaker 1: up happening. I had to fight for that record. I
Speaker 1: had to fight for it, like me and at the
Speaker 1: time ahead of the late like we got into it
Speaker 1: like like I'm not this was r c A at
Speaker 1: the time, so it's like I'm not putting I'm not
Speaker 1: about to spend money on somebody. That's not like I'm
Speaker 1: not about to do like it was just a It
Speaker 1: was a But the record came out and it spoke
Speaker 1: for itself, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a crazy little journey. Yeah, Gucci came out,
Speaker 4: he put a verse on it, and I think it
Speaker 4: was his first like real mainstream, so the energy around
Speaker 4: it was just crazy. He leaving, he came to Baltimore
Speaker 4: shot the video with me at my carib at the time,
Speaker 4: like it was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a vibe, bro, break up was
Speaker 1: a whole Yeah, jeez, what do you like more coming?
Speaker 8: Yeah, making the record or performing the record. It's two
Speaker 8: different worlds, Bro, I feel like performing a record.
Speaker 1: It's like I said, like this, it depends on who
Speaker 1: I'm working with. I can't say like every.
Speaker 4: Record is saying like when you're working with people that
Speaker 4: you actually enjoy work Like sometimes when you work it's
Speaker 4: not like I said, it's more political. It's more like
Speaker 4: making records. Back then, it was not as fun as
Speaker 4: making records now. Now I'm having more fun.
Speaker 1: Back then, it was like, all right, bro, we got
Speaker 1: you set up with this writer, this producer.
Speaker 4: I had fun with Scott Storch Scott stories, but I
Speaker 4: have Yeah, it's like you know, back then it was
Speaker 4: a little bit more. I didn't have as much control.
Speaker 4: I wasn't involved in the setting up. I was just
Speaker 4: showing up, singing, doing the record. It's like, Okay, Neo
Speaker 4: coming in the right or this person coming the right.
Speaker 4: Had had a great time working with Polo. That's my nigga.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, just it's certain people
Speaker 4: that was like it more fun making the records.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's just like you do the records and
Speaker 1: you keep it more. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: When I work with Stargay, we did how our breathing
Speaker 4: all those records like they're they're more structured, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: underdogs more structured.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They got five writers in a room, two writers or
Speaker 4: whatever whatever, it's two rooms going all right, Mario, were
Speaker 4: ready for you to cut your vocals over here? You
Speaker 4: go over there, you cut the vocals. You you know
Speaker 4: you you you know you in with goats, so you delivering.
Speaker 4: You really focus just on that. It ain't about having fun.
Speaker 4: It ain't about girls in the vibe, it ain't about
Speaker 4: it's just more about the work. So I've been on
Speaker 4: both sides where you know, it was super political and
Speaker 4: just it's just it's cutting dry and then it's like
Speaker 4: we're working for one day, we partying and raging for
Speaker 4: two days. But then when we come back, we about
Speaker 4: to do like ten more records. Right, that's going to
Speaker 4: be off that energy. Right, So I don't know, it
Speaker 4: just depends on who I work with.
Speaker 1: Have you ever made a.
Speaker 3: Record particularly like like like like for me, right, my
Speaker 3: first album was a component over Jega, right, and we
Speaker 3: had all these hood records, right yeah, and it were great, right,
Speaker 3: but they were like they were slow.
Speaker 1: So going into my solo album, I made What What
Speaker 1: What What? Just for the clubs. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Did you know what it was when you did it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I kind of did. I didn't. I didn't know one
Speaker 1: hundred but I knew that.
Speaker 3: If it had this reacted the way I wanted to react,
Speaker 3: this would be a hit. But I made that record
Speaker 3: particularly because I needed a club record. Have you ever
Speaker 3: made records like that where you're like, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna do it, like maybe a super Girl
Speaker 3: for the all ballot record, like you.
Speaker 1: Break up? Is that for sure? Okay? Break It is
Speaker 1: definitely that, bro, because we would look like I said,
Speaker 1: we was looking for that energy. I think the main
Speaker 1: one the journ I just deal with with the journal
Speaker 1: I deal with Tiger and Wayne.
Speaker 4: That was definitely like, okay, it was that that was
Speaker 4: a it was that was a different thing because originally
Speaker 4: Tori was on the record, and then Wayne and Tiger
Speaker 4: ended up doing the actual version that we put out
Speaker 4: with the video and everything Toy got locked up, so
Speaker 4: yes and no, okay, it was it wasn't about him
Speaker 4: being locked up. It was about I wanted to actually
Speaker 4: move the record, Okay, I wanted to shoot video like
Speaker 4: it was like, I wanted to have fun with the record,
Speaker 4: you know. And it was a hard decision to make,
Speaker 4: bro because that's my nigga, and you know, it's like
Speaker 4: that was a hard decision to make. But I also
Speaker 4: had history of Wayne, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 4: they me and Tiger is the one who went in
Speaker 4: and actually.
Speaker 1: Did the record together.
Speaker 4: So it was just like, yeah, it was it was
Speaker 4: a tough call, but yeah, you know that that one
Speaker 4: was definitely one of those like, yo, let's do something
Speaker 4: for the summer. It was another record that was in
Speaker 4: that in that space. I feel like a ballot that
Speaker 4: was in that space.
Speaker 1: And music for love. But that's that's that's not nothing
Speaker 1: you regret, not at all. What was talking about.
Speaker 3: I was asking the way you said it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was saying, do you ever have one that you did
Speaker 3: it for the label and you regret it?
Speaker 1: Oh that you said them that I did for the
Speaker 1: label that I did for the club. Now you good
Speaker 1: hey man, you keep going. It's true.
Speaker 4: One that I cut for the label Know Some Music
Speaker 4: for Love, Like that was the record that I did
Speaker 4: because I wanted I wanted to do something that was
Speaker 4: like R and B baby making record that could also
Speaker 4: be played in the clubs.
Speaker 1: Music for Love was that.
Speaker 4: It was like, I feel like every R and B
Speaker 4: artist got to have if you want to be like
Speaker 4: a golden and ship, like you got to have something
Speaker 4: that can play everywhere. It's like r Kelly was one
Speaker 4: of them, Like he made records that play album.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he said, you gotta hold away, you got
Speaker 7: you said, I was Kelly elise Y.
Speaker 3: He got It's eight minutes. It was eight min and sold.
Speaker 3: Back then, I just found that it's fifteen minis sold. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm going, I'm going to renew.
Speaker 1: My black listen It's it's undeniable. It's telling right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I feel like, yeah, like with music for a
Speaker 4: certain records, I always try to cover, like having records
Speaker 4: that can work anywhere and then also giving you classics.
Speaker 4: I feel like a great R and B artist can
Speaker 4: do all of that, and I that's what I've been
Speaker 4: trying to create. With my catalog throughout my career. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So that's that's the goal, bro,
Speaker 4: that's the goal.
Speaker 3: Let me ask a quick question because you missus Sean Garrett.
Speaker 3: You see Sean Garrett a Dream going at it like on.
Speaker 1: On like in the person not but that's regular. If
Speaker 1: you know Sean, that's that's regular.
Speaker 3: Let me tell y'all something. R and B y'all been that,
Speaker 3: y'all gangsters a long time. Bobby Brown told us a
Speaker 3: little bit like we was like, okay, maybe.
Speaker 9: Not everybody, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I go
Speaker 9: backstage and I'll be like, damn, these motherfuckers don't have fights.
Speaker 1: They got popa ree smelling, yeah, smell good. Ship like
Speaker 1: school motherfuckers is justice Gags. There is USA Sean Garrett
Speaker 1: and Dream. I feel like we you know, we.
Speaker 4: Our emotions be, we let our emotions out.
Speaker 1: And the music and ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then when she gets real, get.
Speaker 3: Real about giving people their flowers or they can smell them,
Speaker 3: they thoughts while they can think them, and they drink
Speaker 3: while they can drink them. Brother, what you have done
Speaker 3: to this game? You have been relentless. You have dominated
Speaker 3: you have and you have never I've never seen you complain.
Speaker 3: I don't think you have the stress day in your life,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, bro, let me give your hours gold flowers. Yes, yes, God,
Speaker 1: I love gold go oh, there was offences idea.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 1: For real man, you know it's rich. It's rich. So
Speaker 1: so you look like nothing really bother as you because
Speaker 1: I mean is in the two things that that means.
Speaker 1: It means you like real good at how.
Speaker 3: Oh you're real good at blowing it off like it
Speaker 3: probably does bother you. But it's better than Lorie to
Speaker 3: not address it from you from Queens. That's why left
Speaker 3: Rock City, Come on Queens, nine thirty, came on to
Speaker 3: New York one one three six eight.
Speaker 1: That's right. No, no, no, no, no no. But I'm
Speaker 1: are you ready for me asking my question? My bet?
Speaker 1: You know I want you to ask question. Yes, you
Speaker 1: from Queens. Bro, you've been through a lot of things
Speaker 1: that people know, Yes, but you've been through a lot
Speaker 1: of things that people don't know. Mm hmm. And I'm
Speaker 1: almost certain that the things that they don't know.
Speaker 4: Has been the foundation of your character and your decisions
Speaker 4: and who you decided to become.
Speaker 1: Today more than the things they do. Know, all right,
Speaker 1: you're not gone. Yeah yeah, that makes your noise for
Speaker 1: that though.
Speaker 4: In that whole journey, then you have your observation of
Speaker 4: other people and the things that they've done and ended
Speaker 4: up in situations that you don't want. Like you, you know,
Speaker 4: whether you ended up in bass situation that you got
Speaker 4: out of it. You here now, but you've been able
Speaker 4: to observe your world and to side how you're gonna
Speaker 4: fit into it on your terms.
Speaker 1: I learned early on.
Speaker 4: I grew up around killers, drug dealers, gangsters, drug addicts.
Speaker 4: My grandmother was a god loving person. My great grandmother
Speaker 4: went to church every three days. My grandma went to
Speaker 4: church and pray for my family every day days. It
Speaker 4: still ain't work.
Speaker 1: I seen.
Speaker 4: I've been seeing death since I was four years old. Wow, wow,
Speaker 4: I've been burying family members since I was five years old.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: I buried my mother in twenty seventeen. Oh oh bless,
Speaker 4: I fought demons with her. She died from a heroine
Speaker 4: and fitting not overdose. Like I really grew up in
Speaker 4: this shit. I don't talk about it because why do
Speaker 4: I need to talk about it? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I don't you know, I came up in a town
Speaker 4: where it's like, nigga chasing on the internet wasn't a
Speaker 4: thing like that's not even to me, that's not I
Speaker 4: don't mind when people do it for whatever reason they
Speaker 4: do it. I just personally, I got to look in
Speaker 4: the mirror at night and go to sleep and be like,
Speaker 4: proud of who I am as a man and know
Speaker 4: that I got. Anything that came to me is because
Speaker 4: I work for it, because I personally planned for this
Speaker 4: to happen this way, and it did. That make me
Speaker 4: feel as a man, more grounded and more powerful and
Speaker 4: more understanding of who I am.
Speaker 1: And it builds a bond, my bond with myself.
Speaker 4: You know, when I was in the darkest moments of
Speaker 4: my life and me and God talking to me, talking
Speaker 4: to myself, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, Yo, you are you got? It's just you, nigga,
Speaker 1: It's just you.
Speaker 4: So every decision you make, every person that's around you,
Speaker 4: everything that you do, you got to be able to
Speaker 4: hold yourself account like every choice you make. So for me, dog,
Speaker 4: I don't just I'm not impulsive on I'm just not
Speaker 4: impossible on shiit like you. It take a lot from me.
Speaker 4: If it's not something that's real, I'm not gonna get
Speaker 4: triggered by it. Like you gotta be real, bro, and
Speaker 4: then when it's real, it's real.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: It's that simple. It seems like you don't join the circus,
Speaker 3: like even me. I don't let things bother me, but
Speaker 3: every now and then I joined the circus, like I.
Speaker 1: Got me a scenario, and I can tell you how
Speaker 1: we'll respond. Okay, what you mean? Uh? Your album drop?
Speaker 3: One of your artists, your people friends go on Shade
Speaker 3: forty five, They ask them, yo, uh did you did
Speaker 3: you hear.
Speaker 1: Mario new album? And he goes, well, I couldn't get
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 3: One of my piers, one of your peers, the person
Speaker 3: that you know, Okay, how would you respond to something
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 1: Why do I need to respond? That's his opinion? Okay,
Speaker 1: but I get it.
Speaker 4: You're saying the cloud chase a version be like making
Speaker 4: my albums out ship.
Speaker 1: Let me if I respond and people will go pay it.
Speaker 4: I don't think like that, bro, Like I think that
Speaker 4: I think a part of me sometimes a part let
Speaker 4: me be honest with I think the real nigga in
Speaker 4: me sometimes stunts the I was, I'm gonna say growth,
Speaker 4: but like the attention that I could be getting right.
Speaker 4: But that's the thing is like, Bro, I'll be seeing
Speaker 4: niggas do that and then disappeared two years, So what
Speaker 4: the fuck does that even mean?
Speaker 1: What are you standing on? All respect? And he said
Speaker 1: one of your peers.
Speaker 10: So since let's say the example live on Shady forty five, Yeah,
Speaker 10: the comment, so yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you acknowledge that? What kind of comment that he
Speaker 1: wasn't into the album? He just said, okay, but like radio,
Speaker 1: like right now, you see the way he dropped. It
Speaker 1: depends on how it said. It just depends, bro. It
Speaker 1: depends on the energy.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: It's like if you like, you don't funk with that nigga,
Speaker 4: Like if it's if it's that energy, if somebody asked
Speaker 4: me about.
Speaker 1: It, then I would ask the question.
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna go if it's if it's I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna go out of my way to be like
Speaker 4: oh he said, like that's like, okay, you has your opinion.
Speaker 4: If he wanted to direct it to me, then it
Speaker 4: would be a different conversation and I probably would talk
Speaker 4: to him in person and.
Speaker 1: On the owner ship. But I don't know. This never happened, bro,
Speaker 1: So I think the question is why people don't let's
Speaker 1: just say that. Let's just I think that's the real question.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shot for that. It's cool, bro, that's that's everybody.
Speaker 1: What are you trying to? Yeah? Who h'll be the rizard?
Speaker 1: Going to a part of the wine? Please? Okay, where's
Speaker 1: the uh at the drink? Okay? You ready drinking drink?
Speaker 1: He said, yes, okay, and you got that burning. I
Speaker 1: see that. I see that. All right, So you're gonna
Speaker 1: play him the game Quick Time of Slim guys.
Speaker 10: Yeah, all right, So Quick Time with Slime is a
Speaker 10: game where that we ask you either or and you
Speaker 10: get can answer truthfully.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 10: We're not pulling it out of you if you have
Speaker 10: a story with either world questions. If you say if
Speaker 10: you say yes, then we don't drink, and say no,
Speaker 10: we don't drink. If you say both, yeah, did.
Speaker 1: We all drink? Let's do it drink? You got cosoo right?
Speaker 1: You want to cast shot? Yeah sho shots? Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right? Cool? Okay, cool, two options. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie.
Speaker 3: Mario's too smooth man, He's fast smooth. I don't think
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna work on that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah sure and he got he got, he got, he
Speaker 3: got twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson jacket on too. You know Michael, Michael, that's
Speaker 1: my guy, bro, Like Michael one of my biggest inspirations.
Speaker 4: Him and Marvin Gaye, Him, Marvin and Steview, like those
Speaker 4: are my three tops. Like we're not yeah, bro, you
Speaker 4: know they're trying to say. You can see right now,
Speaker 4: you know it might be reversing.
Speaker 1: Its like you know, he might be he might be
Speaker 1: able to like he might be able to a little bit, see.
Speaker 3: Y'all right, right, right right, okay, yeah, ready you explained right, yes, okay,
Speaker 3: this is the great first hold on. We're gonna wait
Speaker 3: for Jamie. Okay, okay, shots, Okay, I'm not for sure. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is great what it is at this point. Great
Speaker 3: first question Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder Damn, that's crazy
Speaker 3: just now yeah they all right, look, okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be honest. I'm gonna have to go with I love Stevie.
Speaker 1: That's Stevee. We just talked recently. I love Stevie. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Marvin I'm not on FaceTime. He will
Speaker 1: FaceTime that sidn't got uh, I'm gonna go with Marvin.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you know we're not drinking. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Marvin. Damn. I don't take a shot. Okay,
Speaker 1: take a shot. It makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I've got no story with Marvin. Bro, But I wish,
Speaker 4: I wish I could have met him, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. For sure, But no, Stevie is every time
Speaker 4: I see Stevie, he always compliment me on what I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: Bro. He always threw me off. He always feel me off.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Stevie, Man, He's just he's
Speaker 1: like that uncle that you know. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 4: I can't tell you all the conversations that I have
Speaker 4: with Stevie because he Stevie's a real nigga little key bro.
Speaker 4: Like he have a conversation like he like he really
Speaker 4: understand things that's going on around him that you don't
Speaker 4: think he understands. He understands people's energy so fast. Probably
Speaker 4: his intuition may be better than yours. It's kind of crazy. Yes,
Speaker 4: you know, like he'll call like in a room, like
Speaker 4: he controls the energy in the room around him without
Speaker 4: even being able to see, because he understands energy. Bro,
Speaker 4: that's Stevie and he's real. He's he's straight. You know,
Speaker 4: he's a straight shooting you know. I love Stevie man.
Speaker 4: You know, he motivated me, grew up listening to his
Speaker 4: intention in his music. You know, I always wondered, like, Okay,
Speaker 4: he had to go in a different place to find
Speaker 4: a way to relate to us right musically. But instead
Speaker 4: of doing that, he took you where he was how
Speaker 4: he saw music. That's why his music is so intricate.
Speaker 4: And the colors he used in his music, the concepts
Speaker 4: like nobody's ever done, and said the things that he says,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it's just a complete
Speaker 4: different world. And I think that's what I respect about
Speaker 4: that man. But Marvin, on the other hand.
Speaker 1: I feel like I.
Speaker 4: Understand his life more, you know, not getting in love
Speaker 4: that you want from the people you love, being misunderstood
Speaker 4: using music as therapy.
Speaker 1: But I think he came out in a time where.
Speaker 4: You could be versatile and it still be accepted in
Speaker 4: a way where it's still mainstream.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Now it's like you kind of got to stay in up.
Speaker 4: You got to give people a pocket, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But he used his music as a as
Speaker 4: therapy when he did What's going On, Like he left.
Speaker 1: Music that's therapy for me.
Speaker 4: My grandmother used to play that record, Mercy Mercy Me, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, I would love to be able to make
Speaker 4: those types of records because those are I resonate with those.
Speaker 4: I feel like my life is made for me to
Speaker 4: make pay music that liberate people. But I just didn't
Speaker 4: come out like that as an artist. I came out
Speaker 4: as you know, a love boy and all that type
Speaker 4: of stuff. That's how I was marketed as a young artist.
Speaker 4: And I've been trying to make that transition, you know, because.
Speaker 1: That's like the next.
Speaker 4: The album that I make, that's like that I have
Speaker 4: a name for everything. It's going to be a completely
Speaker 4: different sound and a completely different intention behind it, and
Speaker 4: I feel like it's gonna be something that liberates a
Speaker 4: lot of people musically and lyrically. That's what I'm here
Speaker 4: to do for sure, outside of the R and B shit.
Speaker 4: You see that as I foresee it like it's it's
Speaker 4: it's the album where my soul is really gonna be
Speaker 4: able to feel like, Okay, we let it out.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 1: You know I ain't gonna kock it over. I got it.
Speaker 1: We let it out, Bro. This is this is it?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Marvin did that.
Speaker 4: That's why I would say Marvin, he did that, he
Speaker 4: was able to do that, and I want to do
Speaker 4: that one day, shot for it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, TUPAC or d m X, whichever criteria you want.
Speaker 1: Have you ever met either? Oh yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: know X.
Speaker 4: I never met Pop before. Neither X and my uncle
Speaker 4: was actually they were, they were friends. They knew each
Speaker 4: other very well. My uncle rest in peace. Anthony Hardaway
Speaker 4: rest in peace.
Speaker 1: D m X, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Yeah, motherfuckers. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just want to drink.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 3: Recipes, but I never It's hard to pick. It's hard
Speaker 3: to pick to pick. I mean, tell you the truth,
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for a pocket, wouldn't be a d MX.
Speaker 3: So I guess you can take that angle. But there's
Speaker 3: certain people who love DMX and their own right well,
Speaker 3: who didn't even know.
Speaker 1: Pak, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So absolutely so I say that I can see the
Speaker 4: synergy of why you say that for sure, you know,
Speaker 4: because that's that's that's a big statement.
Speaker 1: But I can see the synergy of why you say
Speaker 1: that just in terms of why do you say that, Well,
Speaker 1: because it's the truth.
Speaker 3: I mean, if it wasn't, if it wasn't, Pot came
Speaker 3: out first and Pop's energy and I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 3: the trade crazy ship when when DMX came out from
Speaker 3: DMX had.
Speaker 1: The band dan on and everything. He wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: be Pot at all. That was just his style and
Speaker 1: Yonkers that was just how they dressed it at that time.
Speaker 3: And so if you listen to the content of their music,
Speaker 3: content doesn't match at all.
Speaker 1: It's just like the like the persona.
Speaker 3: But if you listen to DMX really really good, he's
Speaker 3: preplaying a doll as supposed Park was actually a black activists.
Speaker 3: For sure, they had they had they looked similar, they
Speaker 3: both had six backs, but they they let they walked.
Speaker 3: They walked the same route, but in the opposite directions.
Speaker 3: I get what you said, they walked the same boardwalk,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I feel like later on in his life, DMX did
Speaker 4: become more of like he started speaking more on like
Speaker 4: yo our power.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He prayed a lot like
Speaker 1: he you know, so he did have that prophetic energy and.
Speaker 3: Like you know, I mean what I would slightly disagree
Speaker 3: with say that he became more of God as opposed
Speaker 3: to Park, he became more of the people. So that's
Speaker 3: the only different for sure, that's the only difference. Like
Speaker 3: DMX fell motion love of God. Like you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm sure like DMX last days his life, he was
Speaker 3: with us almost every day, that's crazy. And he would
Speaker 3: come and this is how he talked to me, Like
Speaker 3: because I just drink wine and champagne, I drink soft
Speaker 3: liquor like you still drink.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bros.
Speaker 3: But that's not the type of person. He was a
Speaker 3: great person, resting piece to him. Both bro Okay, so
Speaker 3: let's go to the next one.
Speaker 1: Joe or Tank Man say what up my nigga? Joe Man? Okay,
Speaker 1: Joe Joe explanation? Why I mean.
Speaker 4: For those who like may not understand R and B
Speaker 4: all the way like that, I just think Joe he
Speaker 4: was more instrumental in my upbringing of R and B.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like he was really somebody
Speaker 4: I study you know what I'm saying. Thanks amazing. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I feel like I love that
Speaker 4: he's still here doing his thing and he's incredible. But
Speaker 4: I studied Joe. You know what I'm saying, a lot
Speaker 4: of fans out there call me baby Joe sometimes you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and certain inflections and certain things I.
Speaker 1: Do in music. But yeah, I would say Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I respect that show. New additional Jackson five, Jackson Fox. Okay,
Speaker 1: because that Jackson bond is a new addition. Correct, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: I never say without this without that, it's for me,
Speaker 4: that's two different time period inspiration for sure, for sure,
Speaker 4: for sure what Jackson Five's is Jackson Five's.
Speaker 1: At birth Mike Michael Jackson Bro Birth to Go. That's
Speaker 1: just that is like, yeah, yeah, you can play that
Speaker 1: right now. You don't even know. If you play that
Speaker 1: to a kid who doesn't they won't know. That's the
Speaker 1: true definition of timeless music. Timeless bro.
Speaker 4: And just just like they let you in their life
Speaker 4: in a different way where it's like you you learn
Speaker 4: artists development from Jackson five. You got a chance to
Speaker 4: see like, Okay, this is what it takes to really
Speaker 4: be and you also got a chance to see the growth. Bro, Like,
Speaker 4: there's never been a group in history that I know of.
Speaker 4: Please know that you've been able to see them from five, six,
Speaker 4: seven years old all the way to how old is
Speaker 4: Mike when he passed away?
Speaker 1: Fifty? Bro? Come on, bro, like it's never been it's
Speaker 1: never forbidden. You know that. You know they family, you
Speaker 1: know their history, you know his dad was whatever.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 1: It's just it's so.
Speaker 4: Much energy and information there that it's like you can't
Speaker 4: compare it. It's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Oh, Bobby Brown or R
Speaker 1: Kelly you know that's the cocaine section over there, right,
Speaker 1: R Kelly?
Speaker 4: Okay, you know y'all picking an interesting artist like that.
Speaker 4: That's not me, I say, Kelly, Bro, you know it's
Speaker 4: it's a writer, you know, R and B goat again.
Speaker 4: It goes back to the Emperor conversation, being able to
Speaker 4: go from I believe I can.
Speaker 1: Fly to this is my son because the it's like,
Speaker 1: it's just it's too many different.
Speaker 4: If if if these people were generals of armies, who
Speaker 4: would you want to be a general? You would be like, yo,
Speaker 4: you he's gonna teach you how to snipe she with.
Speaker 1: The handgun, play with your hands like Bobby.
Speaker 4: But not to take nothing from Bobby. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying this is he's an icon. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, He's There would be no Usher without Bobby, right.
Speaker 1: Everybody say like being an artist like you.
Speaker 4: Got it, Like you know, it's like you gotta kind
Speaker 4: of like crash out a little bit, be a little
Speaker 4: bit of a rock star, be a little bit of
Speaker 4: a junkie to sucking, be like on top type ship
Speaker 4: like bro, Like, nah, Bro, you just got to understand
Speaker 4: darkness and light because I feel like some people that's
Speaker 4: that way of like going to the dark side. My
Speaker 4: way of going to the dark side is like internal
Speaker 4: is mental. It's fucking.
Speaker 1: It's very you know what I mean. I dealt with
Speaker 1: it early on, so it was like it's just it's
Speaker 1: more of a mental thing for me.
Speaker 4: Like I feel like if I did them type of drugs,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't do nothing to me.
Speaker 1: Wait until you do those drugs and then no, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to no, I'll give it.
Speaker 4: You say no, no, listen, no, Okay, I've done plant
Speaker 4: medicine before.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, It's just it's it's just.
Speaker 4: It's just a different type of it. I haven't gotten
Speaker 4: that for yet because I might not be here. I
Speaker 4: won't come back. I promise you if I did Aauasca,
Speaker 4: I would You would never hear another R and B
Speaker 4: album from me again.
Speaker 1: You would never hear another to heavy metal. No no,
Speaker 1: but but the constant, the constant, the content would be different.
Speaker 1: I just it would be a whole of a different situation.
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, it was kind of like it's like
Speaker 1: it's I said that. Yeah, That's why I said not
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I feel like if I if I, if I did that,
Speaker 4: I think I would if anything, I would probably just
Speaker 4: have a crazy episode of like wanting to get it
Speaker 4: out of my body quick and then you always see
Speaker 4: me go through some crazy ship in front of you
Speaker 4: and then it would be gone.
Speaker 1: Like it's just yeah, but can you explain further the
Speaker 1: plant medicine you're started with, Oh, yeah, for sure. My
Speaker 1: first one was I started with shrooms.
Speaker 4: The one I've done the Yeah, but it's like but
Speaker 4: in a ceremonial sense, it's a different thing when you
Speaker 4: do like God, does you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You're secluded in you in your own space.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just a different level of recognition, you know,
Speaker 4: with your soul and recognizing yourself in a completely different
Speaker 4: space and understanding, like there's things that's answers questions that
Speaker 4: I had that I was able to answer on plant
Speaker 4: medicine for myself that I wasn't able to answer, or
Speaker 4: you know, being in the normal state where I'm dealing
Speaker 4: with life right and it's really healing, bro because it
Speaker 4: allows you to, in a short period of time.
Speaker 1: Live like ten years of life, go back, literally go in.
Speaker 4: And heal certain parts of yourself that you hadn't paid
Speaker 4: a since to do because it's because it's coming to
Speaker 4: the forefront in a way where you can't escape it.
Speaker 1: It's like putting everything in front of you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's beyond it's like a cosmic therapist, if you will.
Speaker 1: That kind of sounds the way Mike Tyson is. It's
Speaker 1: like a cosmic therapist.
Speaker 3: We're interviewing Mike Tyson. We did hroomed too right on
Speaker 3: the interview in live on an interview. I guess who
Speaker 3: gave it to us, Mike Tyson. No one's gonna tell
Speaker 3: Mike Wow, Wow, he just goes like this and we're like,
Speaker 3: we're scared, like because who tells no to Mike Tyson?
Speaker 1: Right, and he like kind of like shelves it at us.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that for ya. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: My wife said that was the happiest he's ever seen me.
Speaker 1: I was around that, Bro, that's fire.
Speaker 4: I mean if we were to be more like vulnerable
Speaker 4: like that and life, imagine what we be able to
Speaker 4: learn from each other if it was that like that's
Speaker 4: you know, but yeah, no, not playing medicine is amazing, bro.
Speaker 4: It definitely changed my life. And it it's almost like
Speaker 4: I know, I understand this realm a lot better because
Speaker 4: I understand how I'll say immature, like if I had
Speaker 4: to to to this is an immature real in a
Speaker 4: lot of ways. You know what I'm saying, distractions distractions,
Speaker 4: but it's just like it's running from it runs from
Speaker 4: truth in a lot of ways. So everything is like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's about magicianship more so than it's about
Speaker 4: the heart and about like being completely vulnerable, which it
Speaker 4: is hard to do that. You can't do that when
Speaker 4: you have you know, people that are out to take
Speaker 4: advantage of you. And completely misunderstand everything you say because
Speaker 4: they're just not on your level right of understanding at
Speaker 4: some point. But you know, I think if we make
Speaker 4: it the norm, if we continue to like bring out
Speaker 4: the parts of ourselves that we don't really like, if
Speaker 4: I reward you for the better things you do in
Speaker 4: life versus the worst things you do in life on
Speaker 4: a daily basis, even if you go back home in
Speaker 4: the hood, if people will rewarded for like if you
Speaker 4: go to the block and you're like, yo, I just
Speaker 4: did this fast, I just did this, and people are like, Yo,
Speaker 4: that's fire, bro.
Speaker 1: We reward you for that versus that's corny or that's this,
Speaker 1: Like just little things like that.
Speaker 4: Rewarding the better parts of ourselves as humanity, that would
Speaker 4: change so much, you know what I'm saying in our society.
Speaker 1: It really would. But it also comes with just being real,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's just like, no one's gonna change overnight, Like shit
Speaker 4: don't happen overnight.
Speaker 1: But reward those little steps that people take. That's real. No,
Speaker 1: I've helped people change.
Speaker 4: It's like that by understanding, like all right, cool, like
Speaker 4: reward people for like the things that they do. That's
Speaker 4: hard for them, bro, because everybody don't have the same struggles.
Speaker 4: Some people really struggle with things that's hard for them.
Speaker 4: It's hard for them to break them demons. You reward them, like,
Speaker 4: you know, by seeing them like yo, I see that
Speaker 4: you're working on this instead of shunning it or making
Speaker 4: them feel like, oh this that's corny or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I was talking so smart
Speaker 1: in the hood the other day and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what what's homeboys? Yeah? Son, he was like sneaking going
Speaker 1: to college. He thinks he a smart and ship what
Speaker 1: the fun is conversation? What we haven't right now? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: God's trying to better himself and go to college.
Speaker 4: Yeah, think smart and sh I was like, damn, I
Speaker 4: just don't calibrate on the same level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's just horrible. But I feel like
Speaker 1: sometimes even I met people smarter than people that go
Speaker 1: to college. Bro, it's not even about college.
Speaker 4: It's about it's about your own understanding of life and
Speaker 4: how deep you're willing to go down the rabbit hole
Speaker 4: to understand what's going on.
Speaker 1: Especially today we live in a completely different world.
Speaker 4: It's like education is very important, absolutely, but It's also
Speaker 4: important for you to educate yourself beyond what you learned
Speaker 4: in school, beyond what your parents taught you, beyond your religion,
Speaker 4: beyond everything so you can understand. So the game that
Speaker 4: we plan Monopoly and multi dimensional Chess, this is what's
Speaker 4: going on. But yeah, Jada kiss or nas back to
Speaker 4: the script. Yeah, you gotta drink Jada. Yeah, as as
Speaker 4: far as you want, y'all set this up. Sons can drink.
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: I give it you guys. Uh damn, I kind of
Speaker 1: got a drink to that. Bro. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: Can I can I say this something way? This game
Speaker 1: goes that you want some real melicine ship, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you can still sip it, but you got to
Speaker 1: go to the to the Coso Zoo.
Speaker 3: We got it for you, baby, Consoo. Nobody orders cosso
Speaker 3: you the only one classic. I'm in the resource. Okay,
Speaker 3: what she got a joint with Jada Kiss?
Speaker 1: Jada Kiss is my niggas. It's hard to go, but
Speaker 1: you had a joint when you worked together. Now yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I worked when I was on this was it? The last?
Speaker 1: What album was that?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 1: I believe it was the last album that came out right,
Speaker 1: the last album that came out, King's Disease, Ye, King's Disease.
Speaker 1: Bro the second one.
Speaker 4: Okay, walked in the studio, him and hit Boy was
Speaker 4: me and hit was supposed to work. He was in
Speaker 4: there working with nas You walk in the studio and
Speaker 4: never know who hip boy want being with.
Speaker 1: And I was.
Speaker 4: It was just like he was about to close the
Speaker 4: album up and I heard the record. He was like, Bro,
Speaker 4: we started vibing in there. I'm like, put some vocals
Speaker 4: on this right now, like one of them things like
Speaker 4: I just cleared the guys.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm in I'm in the studio with
Speaker 1: we locked in, put some vocus on the record, and yeah, man,
Speaker 1: like he's just one of his nas Is is just
Speaker 1: a different space. Bro.
Speaker 4: You know, he's one of the ghosts of lyricism and
Speaker 4: storytelling and you know he's uh, he's definitely in my
Speaker 4: top four.
Speaker 1: Even five. I like that. I've never heard a niggas
Speaker 1: say top four.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna gonna bite you, ship gonna get you
Speaker 3: up on the top four, Okay for sure, all right,
Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I'm gonna say Dave Chappelle because I feel
Speaker 4: like he took more blows for the culture, Like he
Speaker 4: took more blows.
Speaker 1: For the art.
Speaker 4: He's he's he's not he's not scared. He don't got
Speaker 4: no fear of them, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 4: he went to the dark side and came back. I
Speaker 4: respect people like that because I understand people like that.
Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, Dave Chappelle, for sure, Okay.
Speaker 1: That was easy a car or T pay wow, order to? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean I have to go like as
Speaker 1: far as what just yeah, no order to.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say T pain. Let's say
Speaker 4: tea paining bro shut out the T Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It was a love of the stripper, his first nigga.
Speaker 1: He was a love with the stripper.
Speaker 3: He was the first person it's been. He's been in
Speaker 3: love with trippers now, but he was the first one.
Speaker 3: In a minute, he definitely was what.
Speaker 1: I'm still in love right now. I've been in love
Speaker 1: with the stripper before. We all been in love stripper before.
Speaker 1: You're playing bro.
Speaker 11: Everybody didn't you know why because they accept me for whatever.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 1: From the gym balls. They still.
Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy, but like some of them like
Speaker 4: sometimes like they see so much ship, like they just
Speaker 4: got like they're you know, it's about women.
Speaker 1: Interesting about women.
Speaker 4: They are women, whether it's a girl who's never been
Speaker 4: touched before or a girl who's fucked a thousand men. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm being honest. Women have so much they hold. I
Speaker 4: mean we can make a joke about it. When you
Speaker 4: like energetically women are you can learn from both sides,
Speaker 4: like you can you know, a woman who deliberates herself
Speaker 4: from that type of uh world and and and gets
Speaker 4: her light back, like she's going to have a lot
Speaker 4: of I'm not saying do it. I'm just saying that,
Speaker 4: like on both sides of the perence, she's going to
Speaker 4: have a lot of She don't have a lot of stories,
Speaker 4: she don't have a lot of like spirit experience.
Speaker 1: But like also, no, it's not just experience, bro, she
Speaker 1: does I'm trying to put it in at the worst,
Speaker 1: it's just more about it's about the energy that she
Speaker 1: I feel like you're trying to say you can make
Speaker 1: a whoror housewife. No, I'm not trying to say that.
Speaker 1: I'm just understood that I just understood that. I apologize.
Speaker 4: I feel like they've just gone deeper in some ways.
Speaker 4: That's necessary for certain types of information.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. In life, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not even those who understand understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm talking. Let's do I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, just as as as powerful in different ways.
Speaker 1: I respect that, Okay, Rockefella Rough Riders mm hmm. Damn.
Speaker 4: I feel like they've both made impacts in different ways.
Speaker 4: So it's like, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: with rough Riders on this one. Your head rock rough Riders,
Speaker 4: your head Cutters, Rockefeller.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with rough Riders on this one.
Speaker 3: Jacket says rough Riders because Michael Jackson toughness.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you're going rough Riders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gona I'm gonna take a shot. I doubted you.
Speaker 1: I thought you were with a Rockefeller someone's you don't
Speaker 1: have to take a shot. I'm gonna tears. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with I'm gonna go with rough Riders on
Speaker 1: this one. Bro, I swore you to pick Rocking Feller. Bro,
Speaker 1: I feel like when I think about because I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about the ship that we talked about earlier, Like when
Speaker 1: I think about Rough Riders, I'm thinking about like the unity,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the fact that I don't think I
Speaker 1: ever heard maybe I miss some. I don't think. I
Speaker 1: just feel like they was just they was in the streets.
Speaker 10: Bro.
Speaker 4: I feel like they was like just like really like
Speaker 4: just more like Nigga, we you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: we locked in, Whereas though respect to Rockefeller and everything,
Speaker 4: I felt like that was more like, I we just
Speaker 4: get money together.
Speaker 1: M hm. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I feel like Rockefellers was on some like I mean,
Speaker 4: Rough Riders was on some and bikes, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: bike culture in Baltimore is big.
Speaker 1: I say you probably I had a bike on.
Speaker 4: My first album. I had a fucking two fifty on it.
Speaker 4: Like so it's like, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: We big in Baltimore. You probably probably see them like
Speaker 3: as a kid. They probably don't even like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was lit, Yeah, yeah it was lit. So yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah that video that's I don't even know that. Yeah
Speaker 1: he shot mad videos there. This one I did not
Speaker 1: write this question, but he keeps is he is he Kevin?
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: I don't even make.
Speaker 3: God they based it off for you. They watched you
Speaker 3: for the first five questions. That's how they watch it.
Speaker 3: So this one is a good one. I wish I
Speaker 3: would have wrote this Chris Brown or Usher.
Speaker 1: That's low key easy mhm h nah. I would say, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna say overall, I'm gonna say c
Speaker 1: B over Usher. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say c
Speaker 1: B okay, And I'm gonna tell you why I'm about
Speaker 1: to take you out down a different that's the path.
Speaker 1: Let's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see things that most people don't see
Speaker 4: or choose not to see, and a lot of us can,
Speaker 4: but we don't talk about it. You know, some people
Speaker 4: in his life is given paths that are meant to
Speaker 4: be studied. H I see these path is is.
Speaker 1: It was given a.
Speaker 4: He was just given a different path, bro, And he
Speaker 4: represents something that I feel like, you know, a lot
Speaker 4: of times we overlook because of you know, mistakes that
Speaker 4: he made. You know, not everybody, but a lot of
Speaker 4: the world and a lot of people behind the scenes
Speaker 4: and shit like that. You know, I made some mistakes
Speaker 4: behind the scenes. I know how those does affected me.
Speaker 4: So I can only imagine what BRO deal it. You know,
Speaker 4: I fuck with us here. I think like talent wise
Speaker 4: and team wise, and you know, he he got a
Speaker 4: different type of army around him, you know.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I feel like when CB or
Speaker 1: if he wants.
Speaker 4: To really like step away focus on himself for like
Speaker 4: three like two a year, I give him a year
Speaker 4: because alien he can do it in a year year and.
Speaker 1: A half maybe and really like focus on what God
Speaker 1: gave him all the way. But what do you mean
Speaker 1: by that?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 1: Like just just my nigga felt he don't like he's
Speaker 1: on He's on the runner now you doing?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: But it's like sometimes we feel like as artists, we
Speaker 4: gotta I'm not saying is how you feel. I'm saying
Speaker 4: looking from the outside of all right, So I've been
Speaker 4: here before, Like we gotta like, we gotta keep the
Speaker 4: ship going, we gotta we gotta stay when it's hot,
Speaker 4: we gotta keep but sometimes we also.
Speaker 1: Need to step away and be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: let me get my let me really like tune into
Speaker 1: my guy energy all the way.
Speaker 4: If he did that all the way. You would just
Speaker 4: see a different being. You already see it, that being,
Speaker 4: but you see right now. That's why I say C
Speaker 4: B and I'm not saying that. Yeah, that's why I
Speaker 4: say CB. You get it, you get it right, you
Speaker 4: got it, you got it, you got it, you got it.
Speaker 4: You got to hit that on the note. Look up
Speaker 4: to Chris Brown got the clips or dog found Uh,
Speaker 4: that's a good versus, that would be. That's a good vers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Uh. I'mna go with doccowne okay,
Speaker 1: Gucci Man or jeez.
Speaker 5: M h.
Speaker 1: Motherfuckers yo okay mm hmm. They go to both of
Speaker 1: them to big up, big up, uh, Sam Cook or
Speaker 1: Al Green? Al Green? Okay, love Sam Cook, love love
Speaker 1: his soul, love what he represented in terms of.
Speaker 4: Making specific records to liberate as people you know, think yeah,
Speaker 4: his his music was just yeah.
Speaker 1: Al Green.
Speaker 4: As a musician and as an artist as a writer,
Speaker 4: I a would say, you know somebody I resonate with more, But.
Speaker 1: All right, Tory Lanez for the Weekend. Oh that's because
Speaker 1: they broke both from Canada. I guess you didn't write this.
Speaker 1: I get no publishing. I get no publishing this, it
Speaker 1: just comes out of my label, but I get no publishing.
Speaker 1: Lanes bro Lanes over the weekend. Yeah, bro, what are
Speaker 1: you talking like? No, I'm not gonna lie about talent. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Tory is one of the most talented niggas. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: obviously the weekend actholeague wise, right, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Like, it's interesting to see hear R
Speaker 3: and B perspective, right, because she like when I listen
Speaker 3: to R and B.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I'm thinking about so when I'm going
Speaker 1: about to go.
Speaker 4: Do a festival show, and I'm about to go do
Speaker 4: a show, and I'm like, Okay, I'm looking at my
Speaker 4: team and I'm like.
Speaker 1: This is the production this is I'm like in it.
Speaker 4: Of course, if you would say like production wise and
Speaker 4: like you know, in terms of mainstream and startom and
Speaker 4: like team and this.
Speaker 1: And this what is late the weekend?
Speaker 4: Right, we talk about raw talent. Nigga put the mic on,
Speaker 4: play a beat. I'm gonna write a song in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Tory Lanz.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Now, Tory Lanez. I did a feature with him.
Speaker 3: He sent that ship back in like five minutes, like
Speaker 3: it's like he wrote this shit already, like and then
Speaker 3: like like I didn't send him to beat or nothing.
Speaker 1: I just sent it to him.
Speaker 3: He just he's like like he's like send it to
Speaker 3: him now. And I was just like, all right, who
Speaker 3: you one of those guys. I was like all right,
Speaker 3: and like you know, like you know, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: used to every parody in the industry, so I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna send it to him, and he's just
Speaker 3: gonna like ghost me.
Speaker 1: Like he was like like I text him and you
Speaker 1: get it, and he asked me and then he's like, yes,
Speaker 1: I got it. And it was like I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Had vocals in there and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. I never got to do that with The Weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 3: I never met The Weekend avaunt or genuine. I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna lie about to say that anyway. Come on, nobody
Speaker 3: with the Pony. Come on, Patty LaBelle or LaRita Franklin.
Speaker 1: That's that. This is the first one. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's good. That's a good one.
Speaker 4: Patty or Aretha frank mm hmm, ship because like me
Speaker 4: and Patty that's like Auntie, Yeah, that's personal. But I
Speaker 4: would go, I would go, I'll go Wreatha only because
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, without Aretha, that wouldn't be you know,
Speaker 4: without a Resa, that wouldn't be a Patty. But like
Speaker 4: I feel like there was, Like I actually did one
Speaker 4: of her songs on the Mass Singer and you know Glo.
Speaker 1: Rilla's I Ain't got no bitch, no nigga ain't got me.
Speaker 1: That's from Aretha Franklin. You know that's from Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah bro, Yeah Franklin from one of them,
Speaker 1: so crazy.
Speaker 4: She so bro her music, like she's saying again, like
Speaker 4: chills through my body listening to her music, like you
Speaker 4: hear you can hear.
Speaker 1: The pain in her voice, like in a different way. Yeah, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: go with that's crazy. I't know that though. That's goldy
Speaker 1: for new artists to be doing. That's goldy. Look Tiger
Speaker 1: a little Wayne, Okay, it's going on, Yeah Wayne bro okay.
Speaker 3: Because there's no no way, no Tiger. If there's no
Speaker 3: way no Tiger, I'm just ye coach stad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're talking about right now. Because let me
Speaker 1: change it up a little bit. Tiger or Big Sean
Speaker 1: mhmm uh man.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even compare these artists, but I would say
Speaker 4: just yeah, lyricism wise, big sean. Okay, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: A couple more go back at the interview. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: morning to go back to the interview about you. Okay,
Speaker 3: I want to take that Lloyd or Trey songs.
Speaker 1: You're with Lloyd Ben Hold up, I won't go I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Trey. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. L A or Miami,
Speaker 1: be honest, man, depends on what type of nigga you is.
Speaker 1: But we'll go with uh.
Speaker 4: Miami just doing some fun ship like having fun like
Speaker 4: good energy, Like if you want to be in the
Speaker 4: Devil's then and still go outside and the and the
Speaker 4: environment gives you energy back.
Speaker 1: Miami. If you want to be in the Devil's then
Speaker 1: in an environment don't give you energy back. In l A,
Speaker 1: a real ship like I. You know, in Miami.
Speaker 4: I can go out and be on demon time when
Speaker 4: I was or not on anyone, and I go outside
Speaker 4: at six a m.
Speaker 1: And I sitting under the moonlight, and I just I
Speaker 1: get all my energy back. Okay, Okay, you go outside
Speaker 1: this you ain't getting your energy back.
Speaker 12: Don't give it away right right, that's ill Gott Storch
Speaker 12: or Timbaland, oh la, you get.
Speaker 1: Your energy back, but you gotta take it from somebody else.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy brute. But you said what Scott Storch
Speaker 1: or Timbling damn.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Scott Storche It's only two morns
Speaker 1: because that's an interview pits Markey ol dbs mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I love biz. I'm gonna go with o dB. Okay,
Speaker 1: is that a particular reason why? I just feel like
Speaker 1: o dB was just more of a lyricist in a way.
Speaker 4: I feel like he has been a part a part
Speaker 4: of some records, Like I understand him more lyrically in
Speaker 4: some ways, and I feel like, uh, I don't know, bro.
Speaker 4: I look at him and I feel like I see
Speaker 4: somebody that I know from Baltimore. I see somebody that
Speaker 4: I know from where I from. I don't know if
Speaker 4: it's relative. He's definitely everything.
Speaker 1: He's gonna ask me this question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen o dB somewhere in the bottom line.
Speaker 4: It definitely seems like a piece of biz, love Biz,
Speaker 4: the last one get Yeah, Yeah, this is our favorite.
Speaker 1: It's called it's loyalty or respect.
Speaker 13: Loyalty or respect. Yeah, I take respect, Okay, I take respect. No,
Speaker 13: I take loyalsy.
Speaker 1: Let's just take a shot, man, I'm gonna take loyal Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be.
Speaker 4: Tell you why, cheers. I'll tell you why, bro, Because
Speaker 4: niggas can fake respect. People can fake respect.
Speaker 1: You can they fake loyalty as well.
Speaker 4: Not really, because at some point they can fake respect
Speaker 4: you because at some point the loyalty.
Speaker 1: Like you can you can you feel loyalty?
Speaker 4: I don't know about y'all, but I can. I can see,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I can see when the loyalty,
Speaker 4: like I feel like loyalty and respect to me kind
Speaker 4: of seeps into like they kind of touch each other.
Speaker 4: That's why I took away, Like you know what I'm yeah, yeah, no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 4: But like at the root of it, I'll take the
Speaker 4: loyalty over the respect.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because.
Speaker 4: If you disrespect me, I can disrespect you worse right
Speaker 4: then and there, and then you got inside you got
Speaker 4: to decide if you really want to do that again.
Speaker 4: But loyalty wise is like I'd rather you be loyal
Speaker 4: to me because I can fix the respect part, I
Speaker 4: can't fix the loyalty, right, I feel like that. I
Speaker 4: feel like I can fix the respect even if, even
Speaker 4: if like you don't respect me when I'm not around,
Speaker 4: I can't control it.
Speaker 1: But when I'm around, I can control it. How you respecting?
Speaker 4: But the loyalty part is like, you can fuck up
Speaker 4: a whole bag, you can fuck up generational wealth, you
Speaker 4: can fuck up a lot Lloyd's friendship.
Speaker 1: You know, Okay?
Speaker 3: They asked me. I said, do you have questions Formorrio
Speaker 3: and Rob Marksman? You know Rob Marxman, This Rob Marxmith
Speaker 3: on my face? He said, yeah, ask him if he
Speaker 3: ever got sick of saving the damn princess? Did he
Speaker 3: ever consider just leaving her ass there?
Speaker 1: I have no idea what Bro talking about. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he's talking about. Neither. Should I just call him?
Speaker 1: This is on Twitter? He said? Should you call him?
Speaker 1: You call somebody? Yeah, I know, because what is he
Speaker 1: talking about? Hold on, let's see you're closer to the Rob.
Speaker 1: We don't know what then you're talking about? Your question?
Speaker 3: We got, we got, we got Mario right here. Rob
Speaker 3: from XXL magazine used to be x L.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I just I just wanted to want
Speaker 1: marl or No, Mario has no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I was joking with you, man, I know you were
Speaker 1: an interview. Now you talk about super Mario. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you got me, you got you got, you got you
Speaker 1: gotta be good. Let me take a shop of that.
Speaker 1: Let me take a Yeah, you got another bottle over
Speaker 1: my head too. I see you see you taking my man.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, he said, I was joking. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about crying out for me?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was you here when you first heard that record?
Speaker 4: Would you when you first heard it?
Speaker 1: What was you like? What was your feelings? I felt
Speaker 1: like she was crying out for me. Yeah, yeah, crying
Speaker 1: out for me. I mean that record is like.
Speaker 4: That was like, you know, if you take Mario and
Speaker 4: Joe to put him in one like that was my
Speaker 4: joy moment. That was like my version of what Joe
Speaker 4: to see what it did in R and B at
Speaker 4: the time, you know what I mean, shout out to
Speaker 4: Jasper and pull it and done.
Speaker 1: That was that moment. You know, that was like raw.
Speaker 1: That was like, no, nigga, this last take my voice
Speaker 1: don't got no more but truly truly me like I
Speaker 1: was cracking, like I was.
Speaker 4: It was very wrong, It was unpolished, but that was
Speaker 4: just me, like just really on some real R and
Speaker 4: B shit Like yeah, okay, definitely one of my favors
Speaker 4: in the catalog for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah how about Space? Mmm? Did you literally the space?
Speaker 4: Space was like some of my new album Glad You
Speaker 4: came and just came out what came out in December.
Speaker 4: But Spaces is if you listen to it musically, it's
Speaker 4: really old to like people who.
Speaker 1: Like jazz and you know, jazz and R and B
Speaker 1: fusion music. This album is like a.
Speaker 4: Homage to like music that was inspired by. It reminds
Speaker 4: me of my grandfather. My grandfather used to if my
Speaker 4: grandfather was alive, he would have loved to come to
Speaker 4: this show because he loved to drink and he loved
Speaker 4: jazz music. No, No, my grandfather, he grew up in Baltimore.
Speaker 4: He worked at a beer refinery since he was like
Speaker 4: fourteen years old, so like he was really you know,
Speaker 4: he was in that shit like he you know, you
Speaker 4: go to his always neat house, neat at a bar
Speaker 4: play Jazz Music Records he put me on the jazz
Speaker 4: early on when I was a kid. The ain't time
Speaker 4: I go over there. It was come to the bar,
Speaker 4: listen to jazz and talk about whatever. But you know,
Speaker 4: when I listened to the track that Bini x se me,
Speaker 4: it kind of remind me of my grandfather, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And I just I was inspired by it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all got to put this on the album.
Speaker 4: So me and James Follor went in and space is
Speaker 4: really just about inviting invite somebody into your space. Is
Speaker 4: like we're creating this space. And you know, I'm big
Speaker 4: on I understand how to control my world my three sixties,
Speaker 4: so like behind the scenes is like it just it
Speaker 4: just relates to my life and how I'm moving general,
Speaker 4: just like you know, controlling your space, bro.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 14: So, yeah, it's Mo's the best restaurant in Baltimore, m
Speaker 14: Pless you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Bro,
Speaker 14: it's one. It's definitely one.
Speaker 1: They got my picture up there, they got your pitch
Speaker 1: and yeah, you made it a legend. That's my favorite restaurant.
Speaker 4: Fire But like but Moses, like it's been around for
Speaker 4: a long time. So it's like I get it, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I used to go to the
Speaker 4: more like Captain James. Like Captain James, I used to
Speaker 4: go like late night type ship. But like, yeah, Moses
Speaker 4: definitely up there. That's because I ain't gonna lie. I
Speaker 4: can't like drive through.
Speaker 1: Like if I'm driving through, I gotta stop and I
Speaker 1: make sure my picture is still up there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cleaning and ship with some wind decks on there. All right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't Baltimore what you get you when
Speaker 1: you went there, it was just what I get. I
Speaker 1: get the to tell what the cheese on top of it,
Speaker 1: with the with the with the crab, all the crab,
Speaker 1: with the butter. Oh I gained twelve pounds, no problem,
Speaker 1: right then and there. We don't have to wait tomorrow
Speaker 1: like it happens right there. Oh, I love it. I
Speaker 1: love Bortimore.
Speaker 3: And by the way, because people just say Baltimore with
Speaker 3: the crabs, yeah, Baltimore actually has some of the best
Speaker 3: seafood in the world.
Speaker 1: Not just the craft.
Speaker 3: I'm a represent for y'all because because you travel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone just just gives you because it's fresh.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's right from the Chesapeake. It's fresh, right, and
Speaker 4: the seasoning everything is theirs, right, the d of.
Speaker 1: The yeah right.
Speaker 4: But everything else I got to get imported certain.
Speaker 3: Times, yes, but Bortimore got seafood is crazy. So all right,
Speaker 3: now this is this is this is one of the
Speaker 3: best records the history of the world and the history
Speaker 3: of the world, in the history of the world. This
Speaker 3: is when ever, gosh, when they meet they girl. You know,
Speaker 3: sometimes you just just meet a girl like that's my soulmate,
Speaker 3: even if it was for two seconds, two years, for two.
Speaker 1: Seconds or whatever.
Speaker 9: Sometimes love come on and it's like every day, I'm
Speaker 9: gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Every such a blessing.
Speaker 3: Every day, it's such a blessing, like like that ship
Speaker 3: right there, Like I'm gonna be honest like some artists.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to have a record like that in your catalog,
Speaker 1: it's so unique. And that's when we played every wedding
Speaker 1: it's it's an unidentified object. It's an alien in your catalog,
Speaker 1: every wedding.
Speaker 3: Everywhere this baby shower setting the moves sending them revealing,
Speaker 3: which that it called the revealing.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, general gender revealed absolutely, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Man, everywhere like listen, listen, there's nothing nowhere that that
Speaker 3: record can't be played. Yes, like like even in the
Speaker 3: ball game, ball game, God proposes to his girl.
Speaker 1: You should let me, like, there's nothing you went in
Speaker 1: atari are you You could sing to your child, your mom,
Speaker 1: your girlfriend? You know, it's just it's just a damno.
Speaker 1: Let me take a shot for that one. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that. But I think it's to
Speaker 1: be studied.
Speaker 4: I think it's definitely gonna be studied as a as
Speaker 4: a writer, as a as somebody who like has been
Speaker 4: more instrumental writing wise, Like I've been studying different types
Speaker 4: of records, and I think it's still a record to.
Speaker 1: Be studied in terms of the simplicity and it's impact.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I love you as it's
Speaker 1: just a classic, bro, It's an omnipresent, spiritual How many
Speaker 1: times do you perform it that? Like, do you before
Speaker 1: more than once? Or you just do? I mean like
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, like bring it back, like like yeah
Speaker 1: it's twice, okay, twice I do one with the record.
Speaker 4: In one agapella. Yeah, that's usually how it happens. And
Speaker 4: that's when the girls go yeah.
Speaker 1: That's when that's when the umbilical court is like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, that is a real yeah, like it's
Speaker 3: a real universal record, like like it's a global record.
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna be honest with you, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think that record will never die. Every day
Speaker 3: such a blessing because there's someone somewhere that's always to
Speaker 3: let you love them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everywhere, like no matter.
Speaker 4: What, you don't know, you need love even you know
Speaker 4: you want it. It's crazy, man, it's I never get
Speaker 4: tired of performing it. I never get tired of seeing
Speaker 4: people like in that space, like no matter what they're
Speaker 4: going through, I've seen, bro, I've been in the biggest
Speaker 4: audiences in the world. I've been in Southern clubs with
Speaker 4: just dark energy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And he's still sing seeing like gangster singing the record
Speaker 1: like you still sing.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 4: It's just like love is universal, bro, It's like you
Speaker 4: can't even change, like it's just it's and it's crazy
Speaker 4: because you like, at times, there was a time as
Speaker 4: an R and B artist when you look at the
Speaker 4: charge and you look at the things like damn ducking
Speaker 4: with R and B.
Speaker 1: No more like shit dark out here for us? Why
Speaker 1: the numbers looking like this? Why they offered me only
Speaker 1: for the show? What the fuck is going on? Because
Speaker 1: hip hop is just going so crazy.
Speaker 4: Niggas ain't want to come out, like you know, and
Speaker 4: even if they didn't want to come out, the promoters
Speaker 4: didn't want.
Speaker 1: To pay you for you know what you deserve, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But like now, this is just
Speaker 1: it's different.
Speaker 4: R and B is like respected again and it's back,
Speaker 4: and it's just you know, I think it's records like
Speaker 4: let Me Love You. That's a part of the reason
Speaker 4: why R and B still love because they still play
Speaker 4: it on mainslaand radio today.
Speaker 1: They still one of the few.
Speaker 4: That they still champion and be proud to play without
Speaker 4: the red tape, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, And that's a blessing. I have
Speaker 1: one of those records because not.
Speaker 4: Everybody has that, you know what I'm saying, Especially for
Speaker 4: my my, you know my when I first came out,
Speaker 4: like the artists that came out when I came out.
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't plan on stopping anytime soon, bro,
Speaker 4: Like this I was I was meant for this I
Speaker 4: was meant for, you know, the resilience that it take
Speaker 4: to be an artist.
Speaker 1: You know, everything that I grew up seeing and been
Speaker 1: through all that. It just it made me a soldier
Speaker 1: for you know, fighting through whatever it takes to keep
Speaker 1: your your train moving. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: got to keep it moving, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And obviously those records are a superpower, but the new
Speaker 1: music and having you know, just having the platform and
Speaker 1: having the talent.
Speaker 4: You know, let me tell you through, I used to
Speaker 4: have seen that record still and it's like getting those
Speaker 4: notes some nice is harder than others.
Speaker 1: But it's like.
Speaker 4: I still feel like when I first heard the record,
Speaker 4: I still feel like when I first singing in the studio,
Speaker 4: I still feel at that love for it is still there,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, Damn, through everything I've been through, I
Speaker 4: still have to love for it.
Speaker 1: That's all God, bro, Because sometimes you can not, like
Speaker 1: you know, you're getting numb, Like certain points, you're just
Speaker 1: getting numbing. You're just going through. How many buns, nigga,
Speaker 1: how many bunks you got right there? You're still going,
Speaker 1: it's still going, still going.
Speaker 10: Still In the role you play as an artist now
Speaker 10: then up and coming artist and they want to redo it,
Speaker 10: is that untouchable.
Speaker 4: If they want to redo the record particular, or doesn't
Speaker 4: sing it over a redoor, doesn't use the.
Speaker 1: I think any classic is kind of untouchable in general.
Speaker 1: But you can, you know, it's like it's like a young.
Speaker 4: If you you know, when you date somebody and then
Speaker 4: you might like five years later, y'all might have a
Speaker 4: little moment be like it ain't the same, but it's
Speaker 4: still you remember it.
Speaker 1: It's like this ship he was my little love and
Speaker 1: respect that wants to honor you and do that track.
Speaker 1: You know you're not the same. It's never gonna be
Speaker 1: the same. But I think that's the beautiful part about
Speaker 1: making classics.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 1: The whole point is like, don't touch it. No, no, no, Like,
Speaker 1: if it's done right, it can be a moment for
Speaker 1: this generation. Bro, Like I'm not like that's my record,
Speaker 1: but if it's done right, if it's done right.
Speaker 4: I've had at least fifty to seventy artists over the
Speaker 4: course of my career hit me to be like, yo,
Speaker 4: I want you to redo this during woman like no,
Speaker 4: good man, it's got to be it's got to be.
Speaker 1: The right and maybe it doesn't need it, who knows.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you the beauty about that record.
Speaker 3: Like, uh, you know, most of the time when it's
Speaker 3: a hit record, you know, R and B, you know,
Speaker 3: the females claim it, and you know, the females claim
Speaker 3: it like they claim like this is their record. You
Speaker 3: hardly ever get to see like guys step up and
Speaker 3: be like I like this record.
Speaker 1: I'm fun with this record.
Speaker 3: That's kind of like the first record that I've ever
Speaker 3: seen like dogs but like everything and everything, like like
Speaker 3: that's the first time I'm kind of seen guys claim
Speaker 3: it like you know what I mean, like like and
Speaker 3: and and except their vulnerability except there, uh what Ralph
Speaker 3: transmits their sensitivity, you know what I'm saying. Accept that,
Speaker 3: like but claim it though, Like you know, that's why
Speaker 3: this record is very very special.
Speaker 1: It's because it's toxic at the root of it. Love
Speaker 1: is toxic. Okay, Okay, the record she forgot that far
Speaker 1: forgot no, but this is. But it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: in love with a little bit of Texas City.
Speaker 4: It's like but it's like I don't know, if you
Speaker 4: it depends on where they're at, you know, in the relationships,
Speaker 4: like you know, mm hmm, yeah, you don't believe his stories.
Speaker 1: You know that they're all lives.
Speaker 4: It's like you catch on her when she's weak, when
Speaker 4: he out of town, even fucked up.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like women are interesting creatures. Man.
Speaker 4: I don't know, bro, because like you know, a good
Speaker 4: woman right when she's locked in with her dude all
Speaker 4: the way, she might entertain some ship.
Speaker 1: Some of y'all, some of the lad's gonna look at
Speaker 1: this and be like, now that's not true. A good
Speaker 1: woman will never entertain way.
Speaker 4: It's like her level of entertaining maybe responding back to
Speaker 4: a text that she been the North for fucking.
Speaker 1: The whole year, niggah. Where So another level of.
Speaker 4: Entertaining from a woman could be going out to meet
Speaker 4: the nigg at a gas station. Who knows, right, but
Speaker 4: I'm saying that let me love you the conversation versus
Speaker 4: for those moments when a nigga sucking up in a.
Speaker 1: Relationship or he's just not as president.
Speaker 4: And you you know, was sucking up and like that
Speaker 4: nigga that she's been ghosting for the last six months,
Speaker 4: he slided in for a second.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, whatever, right, you know you you're talking about
Speaker 11: two different scenarios.
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, but yeah, it's that whatever scenario it is,
Speaker 1: it's that little quick space where it's like she might
Speaker 1: do something she wouldn't normally do. You should let me
Speaker 1: love you, right, Or it's just simple like everybody interpret
Speaker 1: interpret music different. It could be a girl that's single,
Speaker 1: that she's been celibrated for whole year. She finally meet
Speaker 1: one out of the hundred guys to try to talk
Speaker 1: to her. It's like, like, what's up, Like like she
Speaker 1: might that he might get that chance, right, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's our relative. It's just that's what makes the
Speaker 1: record crazy. Bro, just represents it can fit in so
Speaker 1: many scenarios. Yeah, but the hook is so universal universe
Speaker 1: it goes good. Bro, you ain't a different type of
Speaker 1: niggas man. Yeah all right, man celebrating like Mario Man.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the whole squad. We celebrated you tonight. Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah some properly thank you brother. You don't want to
Speaker 1: continue to do and we got some more joints. Yeah
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 4: As far as like bar for Bar, you wanted the
Speaker 4: top two in New York, Bro, Bar for Bar, Jada
Speaker 4: Kiss for Sure who the other one that in there?
Speaker 1: Bro, I don't even know who the other one is yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But Jay's top two bro bar for bar,
Speaker 1: top two in New York and New York like his
Speaker 1: his you know, maybe top top three, top three, top three,
Speaker 1: give me that space. But yeah, Jada, that's my nigga. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody else speaks for a Nicki Minaj? How did
Speaker 3: that come about? That's when she was like first thought,
Speaker 3: bubbling correct.
Speaker 1: She was already lit. Okay, you know.
Speaker 4: This is I was in Atlanta, I was working on
Speaker 4: I was in between albums, and again, I'm always looking
Speaker 4: for records to like kind of reinvent my conversation. If
Speaker 4: you look at my catalog, you'll you'll hear just like
Speaker 4: different conversations throughout my career. Tapped in with Polo when
Speaker 4: to see him. He played me this record. I got
Speaker 4: it off the bat. I'm like, okay, And this was
Speaker 4: a time where I was looking to really reconstruct my
Speaker 4: relationship and internally with RCA, like from a creative control aspect,
Speaker 4: and I brought this record to the table.
Speaker 1: We recorded a record Atlanta with Polo. I send it
Speaker 1: to Nikki. She loved it all. Top okay, Mark nah
Speaker 1: and said it. Yeah, we sent it to her. She
Speaker 1: sent the record back in like two three days. She
Speaker 1: loved it one. You know, when Nikki loved the record,
Speaker 1: she she would with her she don't but Bro, it
Speaker 1: was this was. Yeah, it's my first time working with Nikki. Yeah,
Speaker 1: first time, and.
Speaker 4: I felt like the record had a very like it
Speaker 4: just had it had a special conversation in it in
Speaker 4: terms of the lyric, but also energetically and production wise.
Speaker 4: It just it was grungy, but it was also soulful.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yo, I need it. I want to
Speaker 4: put a female on this record because I feel like
Speaker 4: it's not enough conversations, you know what I mean with
Speaker 4: females and males. It's like classic moments. I said a
Speaker 4: big vision for this record, like huge vision. I had
Speaker 4: the video treatment, done everything done for it, you know.
Speaker 4: And this moment was really the moment that made me
Speaker 4: turn away from like major labels at that time because
Speaker 4: they didn't get it.
Speaker 1: Your label, her label, My label didn't get it at
Speaker 1: the time. And I'm like, Yo, this record is so
Speaker 1: timeless and it's so special, you know. And yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: but Nikki came through. Bro. She she killed it.
Speaker 4: And you know, the video that we put out wasn't
Speaker 4: even my concept like that. The video that came out
Speaker 4: was completely different from the concept I had for the
Speaker 4: video and what I wrote for the treatment, because I
Speaker 4: knew that me and her being on a record at
Speaker 4: that time was visually it was important. Everything, the whole
Speaker 4: everything was was super important. So you know, it was
Speaker 4: just one of those moments that and that was the
Speaker 4: last record I put out with RCAA before were independent.
Speaker 4: You know, I literally asked to go independent after that.
Speaker 4: It was one of those moment I just felt like
Speaker 4: it was these type of moments just just don't these
Speaker 4: type of alignments.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, when the planet line up, but
Speaker 1: the planet, you know, it's like those those things just
Speaker 1: don't happen.
Speaker 4: As artists, we're like different solar systems, and shit, we
Speaker 4: got so much energy moving around.
Speaker 1: It's like not to put us on light.
Speaker 4: But like when planets aligned, you got to respect that
Speaker 4: and like put it in perspective and understand what's happening,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: And so it was one of those moments where I
Speaker 1: was like, I bet, like I need to I need
Speaker 1: to be able to move how I need to move yeah,
Speaker 1: but none of nevertheand like it's still a special Records,
Speaker 1: still incredible.
Speaker 4: But the impact could have been way bigger than what
Speaker 4: it was, and still to this day is still one
Speaker 4: of the ones.
Speaker 1: I still got it in my show for sure.
Speaker 5: Speaking of being independent, you've been around both era physical copy,
Speaker 5: yeah and streaming.
Speaker 1: What do you think about streaming today? What do I
Speaker 1: think about it? It's if I was in a room
Speaker 1: on both sides.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's one side whereas like the people
Speaker 4: that don't make the music, it's like, oh, yeah, how
Speaker 4: can we eat off of the shit on another level
Speaker 4: before anybody else? And then there's another side that's saying, like, yo,
Speaker 4: how can we protect ourselves from them eating off our shit?
Speaker 4: If I was in this room over here when they like,
Speaker 4: I wish I was in that room amongst that conversation.
Speaker 4: It's just like, bro, I don't know what happened. I
Speaker 4: wasn't in neither one of those rooms. But I wish
Speaker 4: that we would have won the battle from streaming. Yes,
Speaker 4: I wish that we would have won the battle, but
Speaker 4: I feel like we will in the future. I wish
Speaker 4: that we would have won the battle as artists, as
Speaker 4: see as entrepreneurs as people who you know, influence the game,
Speaker 4: influenced the culture. You know, I wish I would I
Speaker 4: would have had the mindset I have, but with the
Speaker 4: power to make the moves back then. Hm, because my
Speaker 4: mindset is global. My mindset is you know, freedom, generational wealth.
Speaker 4: But I didn't have the power to make those types
Speaker 4: of moves. But I know somebody did and it maybe
Speaker 4: it didn't work, but uh, you know, streaming is obviously
Speaker 4: it's something that it's not affects a lot of us.
Speaker 4: Artist It's not in the artist favorite at the moment.
Speaker 4: I don't think it is like even if for independent artists,
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 1: It is bro cast. It costs too much.
Speaker 4: And this because then you have all the other agencies
Speaker 4: that like became popular. You know, you got like three
Speaker 4: four steps of people that are eating off of you
Speaker 4: putting out a record.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You got all this shit behind the scenes, you got
Speaker 4: all of the agencies and marketing. Like it's just it's
Speaker 4: it created a lot of ways for other people to
Speaker 4: make more money than the artists sometimes make in a sense,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So some artists, not all arts,
Speaker 4: but you know, the blessing of having like a catalog
Speaker 4: is different because I rather I stream one hundred million
Speaker 4: on the album or not. I still go out and
Speaker 4: tour relevancy is more important than sometimes the streams. If
Speaker 4: you're working and you're moving and you're making the right moves,
Speaker 4: you can still make incredible money.
Speaker 1: That's not the thing.
Speaker 4: But in terms of like fairness or streaming, because you
Speaker 4: asked me about streaming, it's unfair. It's unfair, bro, It's
Speaker 4: raping the game. They raping the game. They for years,
Speaker 4: you know, but I feel like it's going to turn around.
Speaker 4: And then when they turn around, all those companies that
Speaker 4: work a lot of people's publishing and all that ship
Speaker 4: they about to eat crazy and hopefully you kept some
Speaker 4: of it so we can eat.
Speaker 1: So God comes down from earth.
Speaker 3: God did come down. He came down from leaving. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he said, Mario, you need to make one record,
Speaker 3: save humanity.
Speaker 1: One record.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you one producer.
Speaker 3: We're gonna give you one artist. Damn, Okay, who is
Speaker 3: you picking?
Speaker 5: Dead?
Speaker 1: Are alive? That's the part I was. You're very shocked.
Speaker 6: You can have that.
Speaker 4: I'll give you that, yes, run record Quincy Jones. I'm
Speaker 4: glad for sure. I said one artist, I want a writer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one artist and one producer, my artist and one producer,
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones.
Speaker 1: You can have a writer too if you want, you gotta.
Speaker 1: You can have a writer to need Quincy Jones as
Speaker 1: production as production Quincy Jones. And I'm gonna say, damn,
Speaker 1: the feature of the writer. And I'm gonna go all
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to artists and artists Jones and then
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones. Steze want that?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: It could be Marven two honestly, look because yeah, but
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Stevie Quincy Stevie, and then you got
Speaker 4: to write her now mm hmm, I'm gonna go Marvin
Speaker 4: is the writer. Yeah, Steve bar sounds like it hit
Speaker 4: to be folks. Yeah, yeah, Stevie.
Speaker 3: So you ain't get another shot. Don't get another shot.
Speaker 3: You just say humanity, what I'm saying, we got you know,
Speaker 3: why would we just think? God damn shut shut? So
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, and boy is there If
Speaker 3: I was ever asked this question back then, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: know how to answer it, right. But you know, as
Speaker 3: I'm mature, and you know, I got to different levels
Speaker 3: in life. I realized that this is this, this question
Speaker 3: that I'm about to ask you. I have a lot
Speaker 3: of different answers to this. Is there every anything that
Speaker 3: you wish you you could have did better or like
Speaker 3: didn't do?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? Like, all right, let
Speaker 1: me just let me break it down for you a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of us coming from the hood at one point,
Speaker 3: we don't think our ship thinks once we start making
Speaker 3: a certain level, right, certain vel and even your friends
Speaker 3: sometimes your friends can kind of tell you, but they're
Speaker 3: not living what you're going through, right, So all of
Speaker 3: us kind of like goes through a certain process that
Speaker 3: we have to kind of learn. Is there anything thing
Speaker 3: that you ever did? But like there's so many things,
Speaker 3: Like for instance, like I'm in the airport with friends
Speaker 3: Tata and says to me, Man, I want I want
Speaker 3: this this girl to do a remix for your for
Speaker 3: your song. I was like yeah, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. If we just give thirteen grand,
Speaker 3: it should be good.
Speaker 1: And I was like thirteen grand and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding this. Fifteen grand. You know that girl
Speaker 1: winds up being Rihanna. Yeah, I'm laughing because I know
Speaker 1: how you probably felt. But yeah, like what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is you ever been in your own bag where you're
Speaker 1: sucking up your own bag that much.
Speaker 4: I've probably been in there a couple of times, don't
Speaker 4: know even no aboudty but two yeah, like bro for sure.
Speaker 1: I was. I was living in Jersey at the time.
Speaker 4: Around the time Just a Friend came out, Jay had
Speaker 4: like two shows in Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 1: We said, Jay z okay, yes, and.
Speaker 4: He wanted me to come out on the set and
Speaker 4: would meet me and all that and how whatever. And
Speaker 4: at the time I was I was dating this girl
Speaker 4: in Jersey and the night that they wanted me to
Speaker 4: come out, I had already had plans for her. So
Speaker 4: at the time I managed to hit me like, yo, look,
Speaker 4: you gotta put the s on Jay.
Speaker 1: When you come out. I was like, I can't.
Speaker 4: Is this massive square? It's massive Square? Just a Friend
Speaker 4: is out moving. I just came up promo to so
Speaker 4: you know, I met something, you know, the Minican Puerto
Speaker 4: Rican Vibes type ship Washington Heights Energy but.
Speaker 1: In Jersey though, Jersey just the himporter again yeah, help
Speaker 1: you out. Yeah, appreciate you. But like so, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I passed up on that, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, bro, yeah.
Speaker 4: And it was it was you know, I don't know
Speaker 4: if Jay took that some type of way, you know,
Speaker 4: But I was young. I was young, young bro, having fun.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and certain things, but like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I never got an invite that might be it. I
Speaker 1: think that's the time. Yeah, that was one been a couple, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was wild when I was younger.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 1: I was just I didn't care as much I was
Speaker 1: youm bro, I was.
Speaker 4: I had a great I had I was having a
Speaker 4: good time. I was a young artist, you know. But
Speaker 4: I wasn't aware of my power at the time. I
Speaker 4: wasn't aware of who I was in the world. I
Speaker 4: didn't know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I made a lot of mistakes, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And uh, sometimes those things do haunt you behind the
Speaker 4: scenes and you don't know, and you know that right
Speaker 4: of course, maybe it does.
Speaker 1: All I know is I learned from my mistakes. I
Speaker 1: keep it moving and I just I'm never stopping what
Speaker 1: I do you know, but you know living you learn, bro. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot. Yeah, no, no, no, bro, listen,
Speaker 1: you know, look look at literally.
Speaker 3: This look look look respect for ja.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, look at look at that. That's that's that,
Speaker 1: that's that socking it.
Speaker 4: Wait, let me let me move over from this. Uh okay,
Speaker 4: I know how to deal with this later. I can
Speaker 4: deal with those thements all but let me uh you
Speaker 4: were trying to.
Speaker 1: Sack you real quick. Let mean what you talking? What
Speaker 1: you got going on over there? I mean, I know
Speaker 1: you drink, how you deal with this, what you're doing
Speaker 1: for your liver? Whist told me what your living people,
Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. But Rizza said, there's only two alcohols
Speaker 1: that's uppers. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It's the killer and sockey. Everything else is down this.
Speaker 3: So since you said that, I kind of like makes
Speaker 3: sense to me. Not for sure, I've been like kind
Speaker 3: of like fuck it. Okay, yeah all right.
Speaker 1: Now, by the way, it's an upper. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's lighter, yeah, lighter, it's lighter. It's like it's still
Speaker 1: it's still good there. Yeah, if you drink enough.
Speaker 3: Of them, right, yeah, And these motherfuckers drinking my ship
Speaker 3: over there. They thought I ain't see them, but I
Speaker 3: chose you.
Speaker 1: I choose you. Okay, yes, yes, let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: This is Babyface introducing me to writing in a different way. Man,
Speaker 1: shout out to Babyface. Man, we work show.
Speaker 4: Baby Face is one of the most simple, Like he
Speaker 4: makes writing sound so simple, but he has over one
Speaker 4: hundred hits, number one hits.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm asking him questions like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: makes it hit?
Speaker 4: He's keeping it so simple and talking about just the
Speaker 4: simplicity of having a conversation. But then when you see
Speaker 4: him do it, it's like, I think, because of how
Speaker 4: I think, I make it more intricate the way I
Speaker 4: write sometimes, especially on this new album, but like now
Speaker 4: I'm trying to adopt this conversational aspect of writing, because
Speaker 4: writing music is of course, once you get a song written,
Speaker 4: you want to perfect the unit, dude, But it's as simple.
Speaker 1: As having a conversation.
Speaker 4: The best records are you can write the lyrics down
Speaker 4: and read them and it just looks like a conversation.
Speaker 1: But in the studio, with life, you deal with your
Speaker 1: own thoughts. So you got to kind of like you
Speaker 1: gotta yourself in, like.
Speaker 4: You know, you got to open up your mind and
Speaker 4: open up a pathway where it's like, Okay, if I
Speaker 4: was just a normal person, how would I have this
Speaker 4: conversation but then still be genius at the same time.
Speaker 4: So I feel like being an artist. Babyface Master kind
Speaker 4: of like that space Bro. I work with him on
Speaker 4: I Shoose You played. He produced and helped produce it,
Speaker 4: play the guitar on it, and help write the record.
Speaker 4: We work the record in the studio together, Bro, and
Speaker 4: it was just it was one of the best essons
Speaker 4: I've ever had, Bro in terms of R and B.
Speaker 1: And just how easy he.
Speaker 4: Made the process, how funny it was, how easy the
Speaker 4: process was to actually creating a record like I Choose
Speaker 4: You and he just got He's got a gift that
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know what.
Speaker 1: Neo reminds me of that in some ways.
Speaker 4: The way he approached writing music and be honest like
Speaker 4: he kind of is like our generation of what Babyface
Speaker 4: was doing. Always tell him that because this is super simple.
Speaker 4: He writes the records that are conversations, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But baby Face, I think he was more
Speaker 4: romantic in his approach, which is why I choose.
Speaker 1: You feels like, you know, it feels like that that's
Speaker 1: a record. When I perform, I'm like roses out you
Speaker 1: know on that record?
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. Yeah, it's one of them records. How
Speaker 4: about Closer?
Speaker 1: So you're telling me records that you like, you listen to?
Speaker 1: These are the records that you because I'm like a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about some of these records.
Speaker 11: This blow up Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, listen to that
Speaker 11: play Let's get you right, ladies.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, that's right now. Closer
Speaker 1: shout outs to the home inter I also have.
Speaker 3: A record called Closer. Okay, yeah yeah yeah, but mars
Speaker 3: Is nine ninety six. I'm old, you know, I'm sure
Speaker 3: the still go.
Speaker 4: But yeah, closest fire that that that records on the
Speaker 4: album I put out independently actually during the pandemic, bro,
Speaker 4: during the fucking pandemic. You know it was it was
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, I gotta put it, I gotta put
Speaker 4: a project out. It was I was working on so
Speaker 4: much music, and I was sitting on a lot of music,
Speaker 4: and before the pandemic, I think it was right before
Speaker 4: me uh tron, I went in the studio to make
Speaker 4: it like a few records and I just made an
Speaker 4: EP out of it called Closer to Mars. So a
Speaker 4: couple of really incredible R and B records are on
Speaker 4: the album. If you haven't heard it yet, go check
Speaker 4: it out. Close to Mars. Great R and B album,
Speaker 4: I mean definitely you know one of the bedroom records. Also,
Speaker 4: you can get lit to it is it is, you
Speaker 4: know Mars the record Mars. Mars is my name in Latin.
Speaker 4: So I wrote the record based on like I'm bringing
Speaker 4: you to Mars, like bringing you to my world like
Speaker 4: type ship or whatever, but like it's it's it's a
Speaker 4: very good R and B album, bro, you know.
Speaker 1: And if Noriega bringing it up, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, let me let me ask you
Speaker 3: because the biggest thing for me, right I did I
Speaker 3: went through the same transition.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I was on a major label. I love the major labels.
Speaker 3: It was kind of coming down. I went I went independent,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Everyone thought of the glits
Speaker 3: and glady, Oh, you know, independent, I'm gonna get all
Speaker 3: my money. But you don't understand is.
Speaker 4: You have to work, Nigga. I waste so much money
Speaker 4: on my first independent album of my own money. I
Speaker 4: went independent when it was just starting to get popping.
Speaker 1: Like the popular you had to be like the example,
Speaker 1: shout out the Gazi man O Nimam Ghazi.
Speaker 4: Nina was Tina wasn't there at the time, Da how
Speaker 4: that's how yeah early, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But like, man, it was one of the great look
Speaker 1: I look at life like this, bro, Like I'm really
Speaker 1: like that wasn't a waste to me. Me spending. I
Speaker 1: spent four hundred thousand dollars on the album and it
Speaker 1: was distribution though they did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you out of my motion through money was
Speaker 4: like four hundred thousand plus on it. Because I was
Speaker 4: still doing ship, I was doing as an artist, Like
Speaker 4: I was still going to the fucking big studios. I
Speaker 4: was still going to you know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 4: paramount still.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I was living in La so I was going home
Speaker 4: and going toess Okay the night of the studio twenty
Speaker 4: five hundred dollars. I didn't yet understand that independ I
Speaker 4: didn't understand how to play monopoly with it yet.
Speaker 1: So for me, it was kind of like chess because
Speaker 1: I was like that moment was.
Speaker 4: For me to learn the business of being a boss,
Speaker 4: being your own boss, and so now I understand how
Speaker 4: to play with numbers in a completely different way. So
Speaker 4: it wasn't a loss for me coming out of my
Speaker 4: pocket doing this and this and that, and you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Recouping that. So I have to say, you did you
Speaker 1: recoup that? Yeah? Pretty much? Okay, okay too. Took some time.
Speaker 1: You have to look at yourself like what am I doing?
Speaker 4: Like you said, go back to what you say. You
Speaker 4: thinking you independent? You about to get Nah, that's not
Speaker 4: how it works.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: Now you got you gotta you gotta plant the seeds
Speaker 4: before you see it grow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And sometimes those seeds take time.
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, you gotta move as
Speaker 4: if you gotta envision it already there. Yeah, you gotta move.
Speaker 4: And you still got money to spend, by the way
Speaker 4: and make you know. But luckily, again, this is the
Speaker 4: beauty of having a catalog because I can still go
Speaker 4: and do shows and make more money to do partnerships
Speaker 4: and then be smart about how I do.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the blessing in it.
Speaker 3: But with total artists, total artists who go through who's
Speaker 3: about to go through with me, and you just went through.
Speaker 1: Right, you had a choice.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not going to tell you what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do because I want to hear yours. But if you
Speaker 3: had a choice, I just pivot pivota moment. But you
Speaker 3: said I could either stay independent and I could go
Speaker 3: with such a such or.
Speaker 4: Do it yeah, or I can stay with a major.
Speaker 4: We say stay all right, you're talking about a new artist.
Speaker 4: You're talking about It's different, bro, No, I'm talking about
Speaker 4: season artists. I'm talking about Okay, okay, Like what would
Speaker 4: you have done? Like like now, knowing your experience.
Speaker 1: All right, this is this is this is what I
Speaker 1: would say outside of your your artistry, outside of you
Speaker 1: being an artist?
Speaker 4: Right, what else are you doing outside of music? Are
Speaker 4: you do you have a good team? Do you got
Speaker 4: good credit? You have good you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Business?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you investing in different?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Because I am doing that?
Speaker 4: So you scamming whatever whatever you're doing to make your money?
Speaker 4: Like do you have money to play with outside of that?
Speaker 4: To whereas though you could say, like and you know,
Speaker 4: I bet I'm going to use the machine. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna take a lot of money. But I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 4: use a machine because I.
Speaker 1: Got a millie over here to live off in another.
Speaker 4: Five hundred whatever your number is, to put into a project. Right,
Speaker 4: if you have that, I would say, don't take a
Speaker 4: lot of money from the label, use the services.
Speaker 1: Take just take enough. I don't even know if I'm
Speaker 1: saying too much. Take enough to where though, It's like, until.
Speaker 4: We get to the point where we one hundred percent
Speaker 4: don't need the politics anymore, because we people say, oh,
Speaker 4: you won't need it's the politics are still there.
Speaker 1: Okay, we ain't there yet. We might be there soon,
Speaker 1: but we ain't there yet. So let me ask you.
Speaker 3: We all know this rumor, right that it takes like
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand to one hundred and seventy five thousand
Speaker 3: to make a record, a hit record.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's true.
Speaker 6: No more.
Speaker 1: I think it just depends on your relationship. I'm asking, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm asking because back then, that's how it was. Back then,
Speaker 1: it was cutting drive.
Speaker 3: We know, yeah, yeah, crazy change though, dirty station, crazy
Speaker 3: dirty station?
Speaker 1: Right now, for sure, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know how you pay that one fifty you automatically
Speaker 3: added to the Spotify playlist or you automatically add added
Speaker 3: to the action.
Speaker 1: It's about relationships, bro, Yeah, because money, right, But like
Speaker 1: I think I think it's more about relationships and like,
Speaker 1: you know, the bread, but the relationships too, bro.
Speaker 3: You know because right now, what do you think is
Speaker 3: more about Is it more about the playlist or is
Speaker 3: it more about the actual radio?
Speaker 4: I think it's about your relationship with your fans mixed
Speaker 4: with everything else, how you perceived, how hard you work with,
Speaker 4: how people will receive your music, how people feel about
Speaker 4: you overall, like their relationship with your music. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Because some artists, I'm like, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: Like I can't. I don't know what artists like. Don't
Speaker 4: ask me.
Speaker 1: I'm a little lit right now.
Speaker 4: But like some artists they have the music, but they
Speaker 4: don't have the relationships. And then you go, you know,
Speaker 4: they can sell some of the artists can sell tickets.
Speaker 4: Some artists can strain records. It depends on your relationship
Speaker 4: with overall, with the whole situation. It depends on how
Speaker 4: you bring yourself. It depends on what you've been putting
Speaker 4: energy into. Some artists are great touring artists, but they
Speaker 4: don't necessarily stream. Well, some artists stream great, but then
Speaker 4: they can't go on tour and sell tickets. So you
Speaker 4: got to create your reality and this shit, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like right now we have that chance
Speaker 4: to do that.
Speaker 1: Is radio still necessary.
Speaker 4: If you can afford it, If you can afford it, yeah,
Speaker 4: just for the Yeah, if you can afford the Just
Speaker 4: what are you talking about, like mainstream, you're talking about
Speaker 4: top forty?
Speaker 1: What you talking about?
Speaker 3: I'm talking about period because like like like I guess
Speaker 3: today I went to New York City?
Speaker 1: Was it yesterday? Day before? Yes?
Speaker 4: I think the expectations for major artists is to break
Speaker 4: records at top forty and be on radio, and artists
Speaker 4: major artists like artists that are like artists like myself
Speaker 4: or somebody that's been in the game for a long time.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, if you don't have a record at
Speaker 4: top forty, then you have him. But for me, I
Speaker 4: identify success with the overall your personal life and your
Speaker 4: business life and your artist's life.
Speaker 1: It's not even about what's going on on the internet
Speaker 1: no more.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 4: I can promise you that I haven't had a hit
Speaker 4: and I stopped counting the years, but I've had motion
Speaker 4: and the way that I think, in the way that
Speaker 4: I move outside of music, and my relationships and the
Speaker 4: things that I invest in, certain things like I don't
Speaker 4: necessary I love music. I do it because I love it,
Speaker 4: and I do it because it's quick. It's like, to me,
Speaker 4: music is equivalent of street money. I can I can
Speaker 4: leave here tomorrow and go make eighty thousand, one hundred
Speaker 4: thousand of the show.
Speaker 1: But do you feel me? But I don't have to
Speaker 1: hit but then the audience I wish, But I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful for it. Thank you guys, Thank you to the fans.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying that to say that, but I'm saying
Speaker 4: that to say, bro, I've evolved as a being. There's
Speaker 4: so many other things that I'm meant to outside of
Speaker 4: music business wise that I don't have.
Speaker 1: But I make the time for it.
Speaker 4: But it's harder because as the artist, you gotta go
Speaker 4: to the show, you got to be present, you got
Speaker 4: to be at the production meetias. You gotta be And
Speaker 4: I wish that's something like I'm like, Damn, I wish
Speaker 4: I had two days of spare sock and folks on
Speaker 4: this other business venture. That's about to make me twenty million,
Speaker 4: that's what and so not for sure one thousand percent.
Speaker 4: And then so it's like it's blessed to have both sides.
Speaker 4: But where I'm at missing now, it's a different place.
Speaker 4: So it's a blessing to have the catalog, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and to have the work ethic, and
Speaker 4: to also have the self awareness that protects your energy.
Speaker 4: So you got the energy to not sleep for you know,
Speaker 4: a whole night and still get up and come to
Speaker 4: drink tramps from that day. This last three days been crazy.
Speaker 4: I had shows all weekend for juern Tea, Like I
Speaker 4: had shows all weekend, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, bro,
Speaker 4: it's all of it matters. All of it matters. It's
Speaker 4: just your life at this point in time in life.
Speaker 4: It ain't about just being an artist. It's about whole
Speaker 4: setup of life. It's monopoly. It's chess, is like.
Speaker 1: How you're setting your whole life up. About the smoking mirrors,
Speaker 1: real life ship.
Speaker 3: Now I can truly see that that you're a person,
Speaker 3: whether in the beginning or the end or wherever it is,
Speaker 3: that you learn how to play the game, and you
Speaker 3: didn't let the game play you, my brother.
Speaker 1: Man, that's the solid serious man. Listen, you don't understand.
Speaker 1: I've been in this game twenty seven years. I've seen
Speaker 1: like that. Huh. It's called heavily Heavenly Sockey. I don't
Speaker 1: work for them, not yet. I'm throwing my hat in
Speaker 1: the ring. It's nice. Yeah, it's like it's like a
Speaker 1: little it's like a gobby in like a sweet like sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Cool's cool, yeah man, But that's the definitely,
Speaker 4: can't let the game play you, nah, because you know why,
Speaker 4: I have a son. One day I'm teaching them Monopoly
Speaker 4: and Chess off top, putting books in front of them
Speaker 4: all top.
Speaker 1: You know you got a daughter though, right, No, I
Speaker 1: got no kids yet. Okay, okay, since you say that
Speaker 1: in the Bropast club, I thought she was shooting the club. Great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great. People been saying have the Fathers Day to
Speaker 1: me too. Maybe it's something bal I don't know. You
Speaker 1: get you an Oh my god, he didn't have it
Speaker 1: in twenty two years. This is this thing.
Speaker 3: Were go, hey, mister Lee, don't laugh too for our
Speaker 3: laugh to you. He's fifty nine.
Speaker 1: This is different. This is different. Shout out to all
Speaker 1: the moms and dad's out there, you know, handling the
Speaker 1: responsibility perspecting these kids. Man, kids, kids is the most
Speaker 1: vulnerable that they're some of the most vulnerable in our societies,
Speaker 1: you know, kids because the world is like you know,
Speaker 1: they don't even understand what's happening in the world all way.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That we're on the front
Speaker 1: line of standing up or creating the world that they're
Speaker 1: about to exist. You know. So they're to me, the
Speaker 1: most vulnerable in a lot of ways, man, you know,
Speaker 1: so shout out to shout out to the kids, man,
Speaker 1: and all the souls that's choosing the incarnate in this world.
Speaker 1: And we know you like, do we want times? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: This was like, no, I ain't gonna lie. You got
Speaker 4: your R and B ship going on right now? What
Speaker 4: this was this a photo you did for this?
Speaker 1: You're about to do it type of he's bringing the
Speaker 1: wrong boxes. I don't know why. That's what I was
Speaker 1: screaming early Okay, photo shoot. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I get it, bro may hate you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got done done? Yeah, man, So what's the next? Yeah? Mario.
Speaker 1: What's Mario doing next? Musically?
Speaker 4: Experiments and having fun with it, bro, you know, you
Speaker 4: gotta have fun with it right now. I got some
Speaker 4: music coming out, singles coming out, you know, into my
Speaker 4: next project. I got album out called Glad You Came Up,
Speaker 4: put out in December. But you're just having fun with it, bro,
Speaker 4: you know, really experimenting and working with people that I'm
Speaker 4: having fun with. Acting too, Yeah, no, I got to, Yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure, I got. I got a few things in
Speaker 4: the acting field coming out New Citizen Productions. So I
Speaker 4: created a production company about two years ago, signed a
Speaker 4: few writers, and really just developing behind the scenes some
Speaker 4: really great projects right now that I'm going to be
Speaker 4: pitching and finding the right homess form. What's over the
Speaker 4: next couple of years, You're going to see me step
Speaker 4: into that back you know, acting behind the candle.
Speaker 1: Not just the acting.
Speaker 4: I've done the acting, but just like do you know,
Speaker 4: intellectual property wise, like having my own production, having my
Speaker 4: own screenplays, the ideas that I come up with with
Speaker 4: my team and we build you know, because it's it's yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's my mind is its constantly moving in that direction.
Speaker 4: I got investments that have made like certain experiences that
Speaker 4: I'm creating. Right now, I can't talk with it. I
Speaker 4: can't say the ideas, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, Bros,
Speaker 4: this next couple of years, you'll probably gonna You're gonna
Speaker 4: see like the entrepreneurs side of what I've been working
Speaker 4: on for the last three four years. And it's it's
Speaker 4: gonna be inspiring, bro, you know, because I think it's
Speaker 4: things that people wouldn't expect.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you got a role for you want my
Speaker 1: acting coach? Coaches don't make enough money, but yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: that bro.
Speaker 4: And you know, of course like taking the music and
Speaker 4: the touring to the next level, you know, really tapping
Speaker 4: back into the performance bag.
Speaker 1: And loving the love the performances. And yeah, bro, just
Speaker 1: stepping back again, rewinding the times, if you will, rewinding
Speaker 1: the times hypothetically speaking, right, Yeah, I said, man, Mario, good.
Speaker 3: Join one group, I guess, joint one group, joint one
Speaker 3: group for one week?
Speaker 1: What group you join?
Speaker 3: Its great question? Uh, let's say the five Heartbeats don't exist.
Speaker 4: We gotta be they gotta exist. Real group right now?
Speaker 4: Liggas don't got groups no more? What groups exist?
Speaker 1: Right now? All right? Just maybe you artists. That's a lot.
Speaker 1: All I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 4: Groops. Damn, that's kind of crazy, all right, I'm gonna say, uh,
Speaker 4: it's between.
Speaker 1: Jagged Edge mm hmm, I say Jagged Edge, bro Jagged
Speaker 1: Edge and who else?
Speaker 9: Who's the other choice? And T G T that's Tank. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: I can see that.
Speaker 1: Not even on some like I just I feel like
Speaker 1: I could bring something different to the group. Really, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: fighting and all that is great. I know all three
Speaker 1: of them. You know a lot of d m V ship,
Speaker 1: a couple of West Coast Yeah, okay, cool, jagged As though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be some ship for sure.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I will pick new Edition, Okay, I would pick the
Speaker 3: eighties new edition put on my Yeah, for sure, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be.
Speaker 1: Ready for my propogative. Okay.
Speaker 3: Like if Bobby asks is I'm okay, you got you
Speaker 3: got you want to stop drinking? You gotta stamping it like.
Speaker 1: I forgot that.
Speaker 4: Taking back sounded jagged just on some you know some
Speaker 4: jagged as just on some you know crooning.
Speaker 1: They made classic music records that will play that every wedding.
Speaker 1: They still got Yeah, I drink good all night. They
Speaker 1: could drink. What was that versus experience like with you
Speaker 1: and Marion?
Speaker 5: For me?
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a great experience for me for sure. You
Speaker 4: know that she was crazy, bro, it was dope. I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like going into it, I already knew. It
Speaker 4: was like you being on the block with the homies
Speaker 4: talking sh and playing good music and singing. It's like karaoke,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, but you're singing your own music,
Speaker 4: you know. And I don't know what aspect of it
Speaker 4: this is. There was a lot going on.
Speaker 5: It's a pandemic, so of course there's a lot going on.
Speaker 5: People are scared, and then here comes versus entertainment. Everybody's
Speaker 5: at home.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, you say a lot of people don't bring
Speaker 4: up the pandemic part, but it definitely was.
Speaker 1: That's the big part. Yeah, together, it was together. Did
Speaker 1: you see it? I did see it, but I don't
Speaker 1: remember it. That's when that's crazy. You were right, Yeah
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 1: It was yea, yeah, it was. It was truth, me
Speaker 1: against Mario and his whole army. I had a whole
Speaker 1: army with him.
Speaker 4: It was crazy, bro, I didn't even know he had
Speaker 4: allies like that. I know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: it's all, you know, it's all for the love of music.
Speaker 4: But I definitely didn't know he had allies, you know,
Speaker 4: so I had to like it was like I had
Speaker 4: to like take him all down one by one, sniper,
Speaker 4: like my god, like a good snipper. But yeah, it
Speaker 4: was cool, man, it was good. It was a good
Speaker 4: knight for R and B. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 4: arm beat.
Speaker 3: It was at one point, you know, a person you
Speaker 3: know what what what he kept saying, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make R and B alive again.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make R and B alive again. Where
Speaker 1: else was he saying, huh what else what they're saying,
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying, I'm R and ME back. It
Speaker 1: was basically, uh, you know the guy, yeah, lovey, it's okay.
Speaker 3: All right, But did you ever ever heard that statement
Speaker 3: like where where people felt like, you know, at one point,
Speaker 3: even now, I said that our forefront of one of
Speaker 3: our forefathers, said hip hop is dead. Yeah, and you
Speaker 3: know people have to you know, refute him, and you know,
Speaker 3: he embraced it. And he was like, Okay, well maybe
Speaker 3: hip hop isn't dead. Maybe he lives in the South,
Speaker 3: or maybe he lives in London or whatever whatever is
Speaker 3: ever a time where people were saying that, like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, R and B is dead and you personal. I
Speaker 1: never took a person of Okay, but you heard them
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, I only took a person when they started trying
Speaker 4: to paintings less.
Speaker 1: That's what it was like. Damn, Like okay, now I'm
Speaker 1: taking the person I was personal, you know, but like, nah,
Speaker 1: I think that this is what we do. You know,
Speaker 1: we are we We are innovators, bro. We innovated hip hop.
Speaker 1: R and B. We're the innovators of this culture.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 4: So it is our conversation. But it's almost like us
Speaker 4: what we're doing on the internet. But if we were
Speaker 4: all sitting at that conference talking about it, like Nigga.
Speaker 1: Army is saying, all right, when you should have did Nigga,
Speaker 1: you're the one that you need to do what you
Speaker 1: need to do. It's just like we.
Speaker 4: Are having this conversation out in the world, you know,
Speaker 4: for the world to get involved in it, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So, yeah, I'm glad that they have,
Speaker 4: because it's a reason why I feel like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's still here, is because we continue to have the
Speaker 4: conversation and we continue to push the culture forward by
Speaker 4: having a conversation. But also I think that the problem,
Speaker 4: I feel like it's the people that have control over
Speaker 4: what people experience. For example, love BT, thank you, we
Speaker 4: love you all the year, but sometimes the conglomerates of
Speaker 4: whoever's in control don't always make the best decisions as
Speaker 4: to how it's experienced.
Speaker 1: Right. So I went to the BT Awards this past one. Yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 4: You know, I was just coming back from the UK
Speaker 4: and Europe on my tour for Glad You Came album.
Speaker 1: They hit us about, you know, doing the BT Experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: glad you came for the album. That's that's out. I
Speaker 1: took that wrong. We're bad, You're good, but.
Speaker 4: It's glad you came. Yeah, for sure, we are though,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We glad you came for
Speaker 4: the experience.
Speaker 1: But it's like they hit us to do the BT Experience.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy, like grateful, But when I didn't even
Speaker 4: know they were doing a one on six in park situation.
Speaker 4: But the timeline of that everybody was on that like
Speaker 4: it was no reason why I should put a pump
Speaker 4: on the Red Carpet show, because that was the moment
Speaker 4: where you should have had a Mario performance in the
Speaker 4: actual show, you know what I'm saying, Like that wasn't
Speaker 4: There was some good, decent performance, but as far as
Speaker 4: what I do and what I represented during that time,
Speaker 4: it was missing from that set.
Speaker 1: And I feel like those are the moments where you know,
Speaker 1: we got to represent R and B and represent our
Speaker 1: culture the right way. We don't do it all the time.
Speaker 4: And this is not even me, Like I speak about
Speaker 4: myself a third person all the time. Bro, I promise
Speaker 4: you that I really I'm so happy in my life,
Speaker 4: like I'm really blessing and I enjoy my life outside
Speaker 4: of just being an artist. But when it comes to
Speaker 4: respecting like what I've done as an artist, I feel
Speaker 4: like sometimes it's not respected in certain in those types
Speaker 4: of cases, right, And I feel like it would have
Speaker 4: helped R and B because I am a true R
Speaker 4: and B artist, Like I'm true to the culture, true
Speaker 4: to the game of RB, true to the to the
Speaker 4: essence of R and B, and.
Speaker 1: It wasn't represented that night.
Speaker 4: I feel like in terms of male artists from that era,
Speaker 4: it was missing from the stage that night, on the
Speaker 4: main stage outside of hold On, even though Jamie Jamie
Speaker 4: Fox is the first of all, Jamie Fox is the goat,
Speaker 4: like you can't even but in that era, I mean,
Speaker 4: like of my you know what I'm saying, the artist
Speaker 4: that was out that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think.
Speaker 3: One of the things I did see this was one
Speaker 3: of the best bets put together for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one thousand, one thousand percent. It was an incredible show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one thousand percent, big up, constant, juice Ski Bro, big
Speaker 1: up to.
Speaker 4: The whole new regime of young artists, like it was.
Speaker 4: Can you trying to make it seem like I'm down
Speaker 4: the whole show.
Speaker 3: I did not know.
Speaker 1: I see you look like face because you know, look
Speaker 1: at your face?
Speaker 3: Hold On, be honest, I didn't see the whole Awards show.
Speaker 3: I've seen clips of it, so I'm bro show. Yeah,
Speaker 3: pointing out the clip I saw, Bro, I.
Speaker 4: Don't I never go outside. I went to these BT wards.
Speaker 4: I knew how incredible it was going to be. I'm
Speaker 4: specific talking about should be talking about R and B
Speaker 4: bro specifically. Yeah, I understand, no, Bro, Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: an incredible show, bro, Like I was inspired, like super
Speaker 4: inspired by it, super inspired.
Speaker 3: So everyone, you know, they have their ten year career
Speaker 3: and the new thing is now to venture out and
Speaker 3: do something different.
Speaker 1: We know you do after acting. You know, we got
Speaker 1: the production. But is there anything that you think of
Speaker 1: a podcast? Anything that I think stream like that? I
Speaker 1: would do that? You for yourself? Would you do a park?
Speaker 1: Not yet? Okay, because AI shifting.
Speaker 4: Everything is shifting, money shifting, the way niggas is paid shifting.
Speaker 4: I'm a businessman, so I'm thinking five years ahead. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: what podcasts gonna look like in five years?
Speaker 1: Take home. I'm not saying they would take over, possibly
Speaker 1: in some ways, but like I'm just saying, like the
Speaker 1: structure of it business wise, if I don't show up
Speaker 1: another no, no, no, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that the way you get I'm saying that
Speaker 4: the way you getting paid right now may change in the.
Speaker 1: Next three we get mustered together. I know, Bro, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you had I know, I see you. I
Speaker 1: heard the conversation was having outside who was coming in.
Speaker 1: I was talking about money.
Speaker 4: I respect it, but I'm saying that, Like, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: if I'm gonna do it, I want to do it
Speaker 4: at the highest level possible for me. And then I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 4: other things can I integrate from the other relationships that
Speaker 4: I have. I'm just thinking, you know, yeah, you put
Speaker 4: it together, time illusion experiences. How do I calculate my
Speaker 4: time with experiences? How do I want to experience things?
Speaker 4: Like I just think about, like, okay, I really cann
Speaker 4: influence the experience I want to have over the next Like,
Speaker 4: so I'm like, I'll be trying to make decisions based
Speaker 4: on what I know it's about to happen.
Speaker 1: In the future.
Speaker 4: So like, Okay, I'm gonna do a podcast right now,
Speaker 4: but like maybe the shifts and changing may happen in
Speaker 4: the next year that make niggas get pay more. Right,
Speaker 4: maybe I should wait a year and just to vet
Speaker 4: the content. But you know what I'm saying, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just be thinking, like I'll give you one advice
Speaker 4: about the part, bro. That's kind of like it cuts
Speaker 4: through the thing.
Speaker 3: Like I wish when I was making records that I
Speaker 3: had these algorithm numbers, because what I mean by that is,
Speaker 3: you know how you you go on tour, right, and
Speaker 3: you're going to all and you go to these miscellaneous states.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say a state because I want
Speaker 3: to go back to there because if they pay me,
Speaker 3: I'm going back. But you go to these miscellaneous states
Speaker 3: that don't really matter in your algorithms of selling albums.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: So what happens is they'll put you, like the record
Speaker 3: label will put you on this whole toll and it'll
Speaker 3: be a thirty two cities tall because the reason why
Speaker 3: they put you in a thirty two city tour is
Speaker 3: because they have to eat up their budget.
Speaker 1: But you're in places that it doesn't matter. But right
Speaker 1: now I can see exactly actually what thirty two states that, right,
Speaker 1: and they might not be the states that people think.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be the states. And guess what, We're okay,
Speaker 3: we're going to Little Rock, Arkansas. We're okay with going
Speaker 3: to fucking s outskirts of Delaware. We're okay to go
Speaker 3: on the Sacramento Sure, but I don't want to go
Speaker 3: to Las Vegas because you think there's Las Vegas and.
Speaker 1: No one gives a fuck about it. No one in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. They're thinking about hookers and fucking his passion.
Speaker 1: Right now, they ain't thinking about hookers and gambling.
Speaker 3: Why the fuck away in Lost Bank? You under stayd
Speaker 3: I'm saying, so I'm thinking about it. So all these
Speaker 3: twenty seven years, I'm looking like that.
Speaker 1: I got jerked.
Speaker 3: For twenty seven years, they sent me to the to
Speaker 3: the places that they wanted them to descend, to eat
Speaker 3: the budget up. But right now I can Lil Wayne
Speaker 3: can do dreams champs, and I can say, Lil Wayne,
Speaker 3: go here here, here, here, here, here, and stay the
Speaker 3: fuck away from here here here. You had four views there.
Speaker 3: What do you do you think those four people are
Speaker 3: gonna come out fifty five times? Let's get the fuck
Speaker 3: away from that state. But I'm saying that's the that's
Speaker 3: the only good thing about AI and these I can say, Mario, man.
Speaker 1: Just tell you something.
Speaker 3: Man say, I'm not gonna say the state away from
Speaker 3: such and such, go over there, go on this whole side,
Speaker 3: This whole side is with.
Speaker 1: That like that one like you hit Holy it's real ship. Though,
Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you.
Speaker 3: When I saw when I saw like, I started to
Speaker 3: study the algorithms of what we're doing here, and I said,
Speaker 3: if I was to drop a record right now, I
Speaker 3: would not.
Speaker 1: I would not any for fifty two states. That's when
Speaker 1: we got fifty two, right, fifty all right, whatever, man,
Speaker 1: I gave you a sex for two all right, so
Speaker 1: fifty states, right, even the fifty states. I would not
Speaker 1: hit fifty states.
Speaker 3: Like if they gave me a budget, I would hit
Speaker 3: the twenty two that I know I can double up
Speaker 3: on me because there was twenty two.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just.
Speaker 3: Let's break it down. I'm just giving you an example.
Speaker 3: Just say the twenty two is one is Pennsylvania. I
Speaker 3: can break it down from Philly to penn State to Harrisburg.
Speaker 3: Those are three different stops in that same state. And
Speaker 3: I can do the same exact numbers, probably even more
Speaker 3: and didn't move on.
Speaker 1: So it's no wasting time now.
Speaker 3: So now, Leo Colns told me it's the best time
Speaker 3: to drop music in the music industry because you don't
Speaker 3: have to you know, package it and you know do
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I do agree with that. And it's crazy
Speaker 4: because after this album came out, I was like, yo,
Speaker 4: I just I want to do it one more album.
Speaker 4: That's just like a passion project, bro, And then after that,
Speaker 4: I just want to start. I have thousands, like broad I,
Speaker 4: let's say thousand, but I probably got at least eight
Speaker 4: to nine hundred records, if not more. Wow, that's just
Speaker 4: sitting in hard drives. Not to say that those deserve
Speaker 4: to be out. I'm just saying that the rate that
Speaker 4: I record records and don't release is high, and I'm
Speaker 4: just rated. It's changed the way that I do that
Speaker 4: in terms of like music wise. You know, so I
Speaker 4: think you're right, Bro, I definitely think you're right.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not even you just got to
Speaker 1: have fun with it and do do what you want
Speaker 1: to do what you love and have fun with it.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 1: Give the people the music. Stop holding back. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm in that in that vibe right
Speaker 1: now for sure, like you are.
Speaker 3: You are technically the Kevilliles. Now you are technically Leo
Speaker 3: Cohns like you.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: You can show like from what you do from here
Speaker 3: on out, yeah, and follow you can show the next
Speaker 3: generation like yo, listen, we could be signed to ourselves,
Speaker 3: not for sure, you know what I'm saying, and move
Speaker 3: and move.
Speaker 1: Ourselves like it. I'm sorry to put the responsibility on
Speaker 1: you like that. That's fine. I've already taken onto it,
Speaker 1: taken on the respons Yeah, for sure, you know exactly.
Speaker 1: For George, I love it. I love hearing it from you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You've been in the game
Speaker 1: for a long time, bro, even like the podcast, like
Speaker 1: this is a whole other space. Yeah, I mean, how
Speaker 1: many hours a day do you have to spend on this?
Speaker 3: We're organic, like if a person comes to Miami with it,
Speaker 3: but we don't like have like schedules, and so you.
Speaker 4: Can do a lot of like this, Like you can
Speaker 4: do this and then go do like you don't have
Speaker 4: to like you're not sitting here all days. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's definitely a space that I've thought
Speaker 4: about tapping into, but like it has to be I
Speaker 4: wanted to be a little different, but like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 4: you know it's it's what it is.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to tell you is it's catering to
Speaker 1: your audience. That's what I say. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: like sometimes you know, like I stopped doing.
Speaker 3: Shows right after this ship happened because I don't want
Speaker 3: to go to a show and I'm going to I'm
Speaker 3: going to see this guy's fans.
Speaker 1: I'm going to show with this guy's fans, right, Like, so,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be. I don't want to be.
Speaker 3: I'm jealous, like I want, I want my fans, right yeah,
Speaker 3: if I'm not doing it, And then I say the time,
Speaker 3: you know, I've got to realize. Yes, I started to realize,
Speaker 3: holy shit, certain people, all right, let me let me
Speaker 3: give that.
Speaker 1: Let me I'm sucking up this story. Let me let
Speaker 1: me just give them.
Speaker 3: It's only two times in my whole career twenty seven years,
Speaker 3: I felt like I traded fans. It's only two times,
Speaker 3: like me doing records with Redman and method Man.
Speaker 1: God bless them, I love them. We were the fucking
Speaker 1: same fans.
Speaker 3: It's the same exact fans me doing records with Cameron,
Speaker 3: It's the same exact fans me doing records with Mardy.
Speaker 1: It's the same motherfuckers they brought us that. You use
Speaker 1: the same toothbrush they use the same, the same the
Speaker 1: owner man, and the same lotion. Right.
Speaker 3: Only two times I ever felt I traded fans. When
Speaker 3: I did a record with R Kelly and when I
Speaker 3: did the record with Daddy Yankee. Wow, I felt their
Speaker 3: audience followed me, and I was just like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: that's what a collaboration means. When you collaborating with the
Speaker 3: person with the same audience, that's not collaborations, that's just
Speaker 3: you being Sometimes.
Speaker 4: She's doing it for the culture, if I get it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I got a hit record, Yeah I got
Speaker 4: this a hit.
Speaker 3: But it's just if it's just if it's just to collaborate,
Speaker 3: that's it kind of doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest with you. It's it's a classic
Speaker 1: to y'all.
Speaker 3: If it's not a classes to the people who gives
Speaker 3: a fuck, you should have never throw it out, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 1: All right, dam coming out, I'll tell you that. Let's
Speaker 1: take a shot, yo, Mario Man, thank you, man, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming for I wanted to ask him something.
Speaker 1: We take a pee though everybody took a peep of me.
Speaker 1: Still ask the question when you come back.
Speaker 5: I know you give it up for writers who have
Speaker 5: done some writing for you on some of your projects. Yeah,
Speaker 5: are you big into the writing? Have you written for
Speaker 5: anybody else?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: I've written records that could one thousand percent for other artists,
Speaker 4: But I've been stingy meant like, because I've been more
Speaker 4: instrumental in my own writing, I'm like, yo, I need
Speaker 4: to really like, I want to get some records off
Speaker 4: that I wrote for me versus like other artists writing
Speaker 4: for me. That's what I've been on lately. But one
Speaker 4: thousand percent you'll you'll probably see in the next.
Speaker 1: Couple of years, like records that I wrote for other
Speaker 1: artists for sure that I just haven't used.
Speaker 4: So I definitely got some fire in the in the
Speaker 4: in the chap for sure, in shame. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: got some fire in the chamber that I'm ready to drop.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're looking forward to that. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I just not yo, yo, you're taking us at you
Speaker 1: with my whiskey. I seeing you big yeah, with the biggie,
Speaker 1: I see you. Yeah, man.
Speaker 4: You know from here, you know, we level up generational wealth,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, to make sure we you know, anywheregotiate
Speaker 4: artists for sure. You know, I'm building so the way
Speaker 4: I see it, right, you know how you know Motown
Speaker 4: was back in the day hmm, when the artists would
Speaker 4: get signed, they had a family for them to come to.
Speaker 1: When I say family, I don't mean.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, little, but they had me, like they had producers,
Speaker 4: they had writers, they had songs already had you were
Speaker 4: coming into a system that was already Not that I
Speaker 4: want to make an artist other artist music, but just
Speaker 4: like a community. So right now I'm building a community
Speaker 4: writers and producers before I sign artists. I feel like
Speaker 4: the community is important, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 4: like really building like the foundation of what New Citizen
Speaker 4: is on the music side, not rushing into like new Citizen.
Speaker 4: So I got New Citizen labeled New Citizen, publishing New Citizen.
Speaker 1: It was my own brother.
Speaker 4: So New Citizen I started when I did my first
Speaker 4: independent project. And it's crazy that the name new Citizen,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just how it relates to what's going
Speaker 4: on in the world today, like really becoming a new
Speaker 4: citizen of your own personal universe.
Speaker 1: That's what I created for. Well, yeah, bro, you know
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I got New Citizen investments where I invest in different projects,
Speaker 4: random shit that you would never expect me to be
Speaker 4: that I'm into, not on the actual like me putting
Speaker 4: out coins, but I've invested in companies that have both
Speaker 4: coins and also have tangible assets as well. So yeah,
Speaker 4: and they're doing like ship all across the board like
Speaker 4: so yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, He's like yeah yeah yeah yeah. Bro. It's
Speaker 1: not bad though. So one day I heard you say,
Speaker 1: so let's talk about faster. Yeah yeah, okay, Now what
Speaker 1: form of fast than you talking about?
Speaker 4: So the first fast day was for twenty six days, bro,
Speaker 4: water it was it was it was rich I was
Speaker 4: doing it, or organ cleanse Oh wow.
Speaker 1: So there was a there's a guy that I was
Speaker 1: working at the time. He had developed these.
Speaker 4: Organ supplements cleansing supplements, but in order to do them
Speaker 4: you had to not eat, so it's just like a
Speaker 4: water fast.
Speaker 1: And it was like twenty six days. Well that was
Speaker 1: the twenty six days you fix twenty six days. I
Speaker 1: lasted twenty six days. Yeah, okay, wow, I last it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think people are more comfortable speaking
Speaker 4: about these things today.
Speaker 1: You hear about it.
Speaker 4: But it's true with what we talk about in terms
Speaker 4: of really getting to that level of connection with God
Speaker 4: and with yourself that it's impossible to do without fasting.
Speaker 1: There's no other way to.
Speaker 4: Experience there's no other way to experience spiritual awareness and
Speaker 4: evolution like fasting. Besides fasting, honestly, because you're want to
Speaker 4: face so many parts of yourself that you didn't even
Speaker 4: know was there. You're gonna face your damer You're gonna
Speaker 4: face your emotions, You're gonna face your fears. You're gonna
Speaker 4: face your desires, your fleshly desires, your human desires. You're
Speaker 4: gonna face all of you know, all of the things
Speaker 4: that you're so used to, your comfort, everything. It's going
Speaker 4: to push you to levels that well, all you have
Speaker 4: to lean on is guy. And that's the key of fasting, right,
Speaker 4: That's the key is to really connect you to a
Speaker 4: space where consumption isn't even something that you need. I
Speaker 4: do believe that at one point we didn't need to
Speaker 4: consume things to even live when we can live off
Speaker 4: of consciousness alone. But that's the whole other conversation obviously,
Speaker 4: But I do believe that we didn't need to eat,
Speaker 4: We didn't need to consume other living where conscious beings
Speaker 4: to actually survive.
Speaker 1: They used to say fast to feast, sat again.
Speaker 3: They used to say faster feast, like you fast for
Speaker 3: three days and then you go feast and then you
Speaker 3: fast again.
Speaker 1: That's what they said. Okay, back in the days. That's
Speaker 1: where okay, fast thing comes from. Okay, okay, faster feast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't feast.
Speaker 4: I didn't feast on twenty six days. When I did,
Speaker 4: it was all fruits, it was all that.
Speaker 1: It was soups.
Speaker 4: No, No, it was just a huge freeze and raw
Speaker 4: foods like vegetables and raw But this was also during
Speaker 4: the time where the energy on the planet wasn't as intense. Okay,
Speaker 4: there's a little lighter okay, right now. I don't think
Speaker 4: I could do that because I'm I stepped back into music.
Speaker 4: I stepped back into the you know, I stepped back
Speaker 4: into the field in a different way. I wasn't around
Speaker 4: people at the time. I wasn't nobody was feeding off
Speaker 4: my energy. I wasn't having to give my energy because
Speaker 4: it's like, all right, let me try to bypast this
Speaker 4: hold of.
Speaker 1: We shot. No, I'm trying to buy past ship.
Speaker 7: I got it.
Speaker 1: I gotta do that with my business. Yeah, you asked
Speaker 1: me a question, want to I signed up for this show? Nah?
Speaker 4: But yo, it's it's it's it's Bro's it's simple, bro.
Speaker 4: It's you know, when you start the body and the
Speaker 4: physical of all of the things that make us weak,
Speaker 4: then you tap into your true light.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: This is it's it's something that you can't really arguate it.
Speaker 4: Science is something that our ancestors do. Is something that
Speaker 4: you know, we've even practiced that we don't remember.
Speaker 1: We forget because our memory gets white and ship, you know,
Speaker 1: we forget the things that we were born with.
Speaker 4: You know, our ancestors practice, and so those days starts
Speaker 4: to come back to you. The body starts to eat
Speaker 4: away at all of the bullshit.
Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, that's you fastened. And then those who
Speaker 1: choose to take that route and to take that that that.
Speaker 4: Journey, get initiated into their own level of awareness and spiritual.
Speaker 1: Advancement.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's one of the best
Speaker 4: things you can ever do for yourself. I see a
Speaker 4: lot more people doing it today than I've ever seen,
Speaker 4: and I love seeing it.
Speaker 1: I've seen Kevin Gates talk about it as well.
Speaker 4: Kevin Gates talk about it, and Eli Chapter talk about it.
Speaker 4: It's a real thing, bro, It's it's Nigga's not just yeah,
Speaker 4: it's real.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Celibacy fasting, whether you're preserving your energy, you're preserving your energy.
Speaker 1: You're tapping back into your your true self, your true light,
Speaker 1: your true powers.
Speaker 4: I did two years, year and a half. Honestly speaking,
Speaker 4: I did the year and a half. I would say
Speaker 4: two years, but I did the year and a half. Celibacy, Yeah,
Speaker 4: no jergging off neither.
Speaker 1: Nothing bro my nigga nothing, bro nothing nothing nothing. Now
Speaker 1: that's discipline, like he can win man. But it's right.
Speaker 4: But again again, now we were. Now we're going to
Speaker 4: a different side of the interview. All right, let's go
Speaker 4: on over here. Okay, this is not anything. All right,
Speaker 4: let's take it. Let's take it to a whole other level.
Speaker 4: Imagine thousands of years ago or hundreds of years ago, what.
Speaker 1: Everyone want to call it.
Speaker 4: You are a man and you're set to go on
Speaker 4: the journey to another part of the land. You got
Speaker 4: to leave your wife and kids.
Speaker 1: You're going on another part of the land that you're
Speaker 1: set out to find, a new space, a new country,
Speaker 1: a new whatever. And you're emperor. Okaying.
Speaker 4: At the time, it's like, Yo, I need you to
Speaker 4: get on this ship with two hundred other men because
Speaker 4: I believe that.
Speaker 1: There's something on the other side of this water.
Speaker 4: Say one of Abo Bakari's you know generals that's on
Speaker 4: one of those ships that you sent over from right,
Speaker 4: you can't have sex.
Speaker 1: You know how long it's gonna take you to get
Speaker 1: to the west.
Speaker 4: Right, But along that journey, all that energy that you
Speaker 4: are holding is giving you the strength to go on
Speaker 4: this journey. I'm just using this as an example. You're
Speaker 4: not thinking about sex while you trying to survive. You're
Speaker 4: not thinking about sex. You're not thinking about You're thinking
Speaker 4: about Okay, I'm on this voyage. I'm on this journey,
Speaker 4: you know. You know, I think that we think about
Speaker 4: all of these things more because we're in the world
Speaker 4: where we're over extimulated, over stimulated by Instagram. It's with
Speaker 4: the x an escape, you know, a way for you
Speaker 4: to you know, it's like, Nigga, we I work hard today.
Speaker 4: You know, I just did a twenty hour shift. I
Speaker 4: always my head, I want some.
Speaker 1: I want some.
Speaker 4: It's like, nah, Like, as men, we got to redefine
Speaker 4: what true power is, especially in this in this where
Speaker 4: we are now. We need as much energy in quarter
Speaker 4: as we can get to get through is happening right now,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But that's just the way
Speaker 4: I look at it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying but because it's yeah like
Speaker 3: you you like girls will trying to come on to you,
Speaker 3: don't give them to your your number, none of that.
Speaker 1: Facts. They ain't in the room. You're hard to get.
Speaker 1: That's what's up, spun man. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because she has set you up though, yeah, set up.
Speaker 1: You ain't been in them headlines, that's what you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I understand the game. Yeah, you understand
Speaker 1: the game. Let me take a shot for that. Understand
Speaker 1: the game. It's about longevity. Bro Okay, I got you
Speaker 1: on my own page, Like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You've been doing this ship.
Speaker 9: We ain't even doing this for two weeks, man, So
Speaker 9: you got two weeks off, you said two weeks.
Speaker 3: But two weeks before that, I went to Cairns and
Speaker 3: I went to Monaco. Yes, and this this is how
Speaker 3: rich stay was. I had a drone following me and
Speaker 3: nobody even looked at me.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it is different the white people like,
Speaker 1: who get a fuck? But it's like ship. But I
Speaker 1: just say that, And it's a new world that we're
Speaker 1: going into. You know, I feel like your energy is
Speaker 1: the new currency. And you know what I'm saying energy.
Speaker 1: I think that was very important what you said. You
Speaker 1: could steal your energy.
Speaker 4: The newer that we're going into is just like you know,
Speaker 4: you you gotta be really aware of everything you know
Speaker 4: that's happening.
Speaker 1: As there's like a big there's there's a wave of.
Speaker 4: You know, shifts that's happened that's going to make a
Speaker 4: lot of people rich really quick. And if your mind
Speaker 4: is not on the frequency of like what's happening and
Speaker 4: thinking for it, you might miss out. You might have
Speaker 4: an idea right now that you're sleeping on or not.
Speaker 4: You or somebody might have an idea right now, but
Speaker 4: because they're focused on feeding their senses and they're not
Speaker 4: even thinking about this ship, they're like, I'll get to it,
Speaker 4: Like nah, Like somebody else wanna do that idea and
Speaker 4: become a billionaire because you're not focused right now. This
Speaker 4: is a time of focus. We don't need more time,
Speaker 4: We need more focus exactly. And so that's how I
Speaker 4: think every day. And I know I don't talk about
Speaker 4: this a lot on my socials.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't talk about it a lot because I feel
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't want to. Social media is
Speaker 4: the Matrix and the devil, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like I don't I don't like to like,
Speaker 4: I want to keep it pure. I want all my blessings.
Speaker 4: I don't want to mess them up.
Speaker 1: So you don't be on social media.
Speaker 4: I am on social media, but I only post like
Speaker 4: artistic things or like pictures of what I'm doing. I
Speaker 4: don't really post a lot about like the things that
Speaker 4: I'm doing right now. Don't really need social media to work.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You fast for social media as well.
Speaker 4: Back then, Yeah, I wasn't even on social media doing
Speaker 4: that fast. I wasn't on social media at all.
Speaker 1: Okay, Bro, I was BRO. I wasn't around people, Bro,
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was to myself when niggas be like Nigga would
Speaker 4: use that for I was literally in a whole over
Speaker 4: realm of existence really, Like I had just moved to
Speaker 4: La from Baltimore. I moved away from Baltimore because I
Speaker 4: had to or I was on dio B and jail
Speaker 4: right and so I just needed to completely shift my
Speaker 4: perspective on life, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think people think like just because you've had
Speaker 1: success or just because you've had like like, nah, like
Speaker 1: real shit be happening in life where.
Speaker 4: You actually have to preserve yourself in order to survive
Speaker 4: this shit life' is life, real life shit, you know,
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 1: So I can be here today, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's real, bro, It's real.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Don't take for granted all of the people you know,
Speaker 4: like the nine nineteen Keys of the World and all
Speaker 4: these other brothers that are out here, like really like
Speaker 4: trying to like explain to people, like yo, what the
Speaker 4: future is about to look like, because it's real.
Speaker 1: It's a real thing, you know. I just it's it's
Speaker 1: it's real, man.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're called to do something in your
Speaker 4: spirit is calling you to try something new or do
Speaker 4: something new or change your you know, the way you
Speaker 4: live in listen because you might be one of the
Speaker 4: ones that's actually supposed to liberate you're you know, your
Speaker 4: soul family.
Speaker 1: You never know, would you ever do like a country
Speaker 1: album where I do a country album, but I do
Speaker 1: any type of album. I can do any type of
Speaker 1: music if it's with the right producers and the right energy.
Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah. Absolutely, Like say.
Speaker 4: I played it role and like it was like I
Speaker 4: don't know, you know, uh, talking about when the country
Speaker 4: music was first starting to kick off in the black community.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I would play I were
Speaker 1: playing it in the movies. Yeah for sure. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: way is to tell different you know, because I feel
Speaker 1: like that story haven't been told yet black people in
Speaker 1: country music.
Speaker 3: Yeah, black rock and roll has been told because it's
Speaker 3: actually documented that black people actually invented rock and roll.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been told in the movie. Yeah, doubt for sure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: come on, come on for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So anything else you want to tell your fans before
Speaker 3: you get about of here.
Speaker 1: Man, that's bro. I mean, we just celebrated Mario.
Speaker 7: Listen.
Speaker 1: Sometimes be a good shoot on the rais the way
Speaker 1: you take shots. You know why we celebrating the career.
Speaker 1: I appreciate, man.
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you something, man, you appreciate it.
Speaker 3: They say, go where you appreciate it or not where
Speaker 3: you tolerated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let you know. Thank you appreciate it and
Speaker 1: you celebrate. Appreciate you, and you motherfucking appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Late and elevated. I represent us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I represent strength, I represent focus. I represent you know
Speaker 4: US alignment, Bro, you know New Citizen, and what I
Speaker 4: plan to do over the next few years hopefully sets
Speaker 4: the standards for like new.
Speaker 1: Artists coming to the game.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: A lot of people about to start making a lot
Speaker 4: of money real fast if they're focused. And I feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, invest your money, you know, make relationships, be
Speaker 4: uncomfortable a little bit. Sometimes sometimes a relationship that you're
Speaker 4: uncomfortable with can can take you into doors that you
Speaker 4: know you normally wouldn't get into. You know, invest your bread, bro,
Speaker 4: be smart things, generational wealth. It's so crazy because I
Speaker 4: had wrote something down on a vision board when I
Speaker 4: came back from the UK, and I had a lot
Speaker 4: of energy that was different. And I believe that whenever
Speaker 4: you have a big shift of energy is a time,
Speaker 4: whether it's negative or positive, it's a time for you
Speaker 4: to manifest something powerful. Then you can transmit that energy
Speaker 4: into something that you want for yourself. And I wrote
Speaker 4: down on this vision board something I wanted, and literally
Speaker 4: the next week it came to fruition, Bro, and I
Speaker 4: was a part of something that was really big. And
Speaker 4: everybody can do it in your own world. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, so you're just believe in yourself. Hell yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Let's go, let's get it.
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