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Speaker 1: He is drink chess, motherfucking podcast man.

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Speaker 2: He's a legendary queens rapper.

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Speaker 1: He ain't agreed as your boy in O R E.

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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d

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Speaker 2: J e f n. Together they drink it up with

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Speaker 2: some of the biggest players you know, me and the

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Speaker 2: most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for

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Speaker 2: drunk drink chans Mosca.

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Speaker 1: Days New Ye see, that's it's time for drink Champion.

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Speaker 1: Drink up, motherfuck mother? Would it good be holding the

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Speaker 1: boy in O R E. D J E. Evan is

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Speaker 1: on Pauls right now. Salute to damn. I ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: say that crazy more radio make now this man.

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Speaker 3: Since he come out, he has been a heart throb.

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Speaker 3: He has been taking these ladies hearts. Uh, he has

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Speaker 3: been making babies. You know what that's like. It's the

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Speaker 3: ultimate like like respect, like when a person can come

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Speaker 3: up to you like you know, you know, I meane,

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Speaker 3: some kids your ship.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I know that's what they be doing to them. He

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Speaker 3: got two Billboard Awards. He's fresh off a tall He's smell.

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Speaker 1: Like a gat in Europe because that's that money smells.

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Speaker 3: Case we're talking about he's here. We don't get into

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Speaker 3: all this. We're gonna drink because he got the illest

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Speaker 3: drink order. He ordered Kmis Kazazu and he said a

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Speaker 3: little bit of Chef Parkinet. But he's a legend, he's

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Speaker 3: an icon. He's been down, he's been doing this. He

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Speaker 3: can can drop an album every five years. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: His fan's gonna stick with them. Yeah, they're gonna ride

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Speaker 3: with him and every time he comes out, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: come out with him. In case you don't know what

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Speaker 3: we're talking about. Were talking about the one Mario.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, Thank you. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Now you just came off to all Europe. Now all right, now,

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Speaker 3: this is this is me now my experience when I

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Speaker 3: go to Europe. Sometimes I feel like the fans are

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Speaker 3: more appreciative.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And it's not even like a thing where it's

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Speaker 4: like fans here aren't.

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Speaker 1: The culture is just different. They live different, They think about.

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Speaker 4: Things different over there, like over here, were like, yo,

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Speaker 4: we're going how we get into this bread today we're

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Speaker 4: trying to become entrepreneurs. Everybody here is is just on

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Speaker 4: this hype of you know what I mean, getting to

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Speaker 4: it and survival and this and this and that. There

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Speaker 4: are people a lot of places they just living like

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Speaker 4: they're chilling, like they riding bikes. Yes, you might go

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Speaker 4: see a couple of cars with sheep, see bikes park,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like they just

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Speaker 4: when they come out to enjoy the music, they come

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Speaker 1: They get there early. Everybody's injured, everybody's in the building.

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Speaker 4: You're going to nine, everybody's there by eight o'clock at

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Speaker 4: they see so setting up, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So it's just different. It's different.

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Speaker 4: The love is different. And they don't see you what

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Speaker 4: it's talking to. Go to them all, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Go to the club and see their favorite

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, it's just different. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The first time I went to Lenox Mall, I remember

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Speaker 3: Olynics Wall, two or three people in the More. Now

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Speaker 3: you go to the Lions Mall, everybody's a star.

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Speaker 1: Nobody gets nobody in America. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 1: so where's your favorite place to perform? I'm here abroad man,

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Speaker 4: But no, bro, I would say I would say that

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Speaker 1: That was crazy about Yeah you're good, but so you

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Speaker 5: That was that was?

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Speaker 4: You know, my mother when I was a kid, right

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Speaker 4: She started keeping music around me to keep me away

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Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. My family grew up

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Speaker 4: And so that was her way of like giving me

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Speaker 4: grew up with y'all got kids. Happy father Day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, don't look at it,

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Speaker 4: So my mother used to play keys there you go.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, let me get them because

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Speaker 4: You don't know where we're gonna go anyway. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's when I developed. Now when I turned like nine,

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Speaker 4: you know where I was singing birthdays because of birthdays

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Speaker 4: I don't want to sing. Like I'm sorry. She's like,

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Speaker 1: Of talent, you know.

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Speaker 4: So that's say that day I sung and I got

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Speaker 4: And so who don't like moneyga? I was like, all

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, little homie whatever.

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Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, bro, I think singing just like

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Speaker 4: my grandmother used to play Marvin Gay and gospel music

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Speaker 1: So you knew that was a microphone. You knew my

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Speaker 3: But let me ask you, right because coming from Baltimore

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Speaker 4: So I'm asking you, now, Baltimore got a lot of talent,

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Speaker 4: I met Kevin once I became, you know, an artist,

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Speaker 4: But when I did my first talent show in Baltimore,

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Speaker 4: I didn't even understand the talent that was there until

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this is crazy because.

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Speaker 4: I was the youngest. I was like the youngest artists

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that the Baltimore talent scene is

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Speaker 4: just it's just it's just so far removed from where

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Speaker 4: talent whereas in LA or closer to New York, like

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Speaker 4: you would see more automore artists, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: Or if if niggas actually make it out of the city.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you, I feel so there's

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Speaker 4: out or you know, it's talented. If I didn't have

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Speaker 4: if I didn't get adopted when I was thirteen, I

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Speaker 4: don't know where I would be today, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I was blessed. I didn't realize it

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Speaker 4: for somebody to see my talent and say, Yo, this

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Speaker 4: kid is worth worth investing in.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure, I'm asking

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Speaker 1: hypothetical questions I got from the Wire. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Every time I just watch the Wire and someone get

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Speaker 3: locked up, they will always say the Baltimore guys, they say,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now one of your one of my dope songs,

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Speaker 1: For show for sure. This was I was in New York.

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Speaker 4: There, I got so. I had just got back from justin.

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Speaker 4: just mad that day. I didn't even want to work.

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Speaker 1: My hair braided. So herl Lily, he in the studio

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Speaker 4: He already got a verse on the chorus when you

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Speaker 6: A fifteen year old getting his dough back came forth

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Speaker 1: Like he already started, like he's he's he illustrates your

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Speaker 4: Those conversations, bro. Just you know, it was just it

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Speaker 1: That was the song I Ain't Gonna Lie. That was

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Speaker 3: Damn you write my interview that was question because First off,

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Speaker 3: just a friend. Did you ever meet biz biz Mark?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: I met Biz on the first video shoot. Bro. He

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Speaker 1: piece of my own man, biz bro rest piece of swimmer.

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Speaker 1: You can't. Business said this bad luck if you pour

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Speaker 1: your own drinks. Oh that's just okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: my back can't. This is a song, yes, yes, yes

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Speaker 1: to Canton right wine, So you that's healthier for you, right? Healthy?

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Speaker 1: Follow my brother solo to you man, Yeah, to you.

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Speaker 4: Soz Biz came to the first video shoot.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: He flew to Baltimore. You know what I'm saying. He

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Speaker 1: Did you already knew who Biz was at that moment?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the fact that you listen like that, that

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Speaker 1: Man, I grew up fast.

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Speaker 4: But I was also around like I had some ghosts

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Speaker 4: around me, Bro, Warren, Camel, Herold, Lily. You know, I

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Speaker 4: But I was soaking up so much information from everybody

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Speaker 1: You need right here. What you're going to do you

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was all of that, bro, Like when

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Speaker 3: I listen to certain joints, like listen to Drowning right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I think pain is something that connects us all bro.

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Speaker 4: Like like I'm gonna come back to this, but like

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Speaker 4: Like like like I think that that that destruction is

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Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. I think pain is

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Speaker 6: Bro.

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Speaker 1: My pain is my light, bro, My darkness is my light.

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Speaker 4: I took everything that I went through, everything that I learned,

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Speaker 1: You got to transmute all your pain into useful energy.

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Speaker 1: So that's what music is. I think that it's therapeutic too,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, when I go through Drowning was a song

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Speaker 1: Tears and pain.

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Speaker 4: So, as men, especially when you're growing up, you go

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Speaker 4: It was just a real thing, And I feel like

437
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 4: that's why I felt like that when you listen to it,

438
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 4: it was like it's easier to write, right when you

439
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 4: just talk about the truth, the.

440
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 1: Drama about how about one one woman man, m Okay,

441
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 1: now you're going to You're like that.

442
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 4: That's like you said, like you lawyer, right, like yeah,

443
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 4: that's like that's my song then, yeah, that's like that's like.

444
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's saying both.

445
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 4: It's saying that that she's a uh like she is

446
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 4: ready for one man and ready to move into a

447
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 4: certain period point in her life where she's ready for

448
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 4: everything all that comes with and you saying that I

449
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 4: recognize that.

450
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 1: You are and I'm ready to be with one woman.

451
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

452
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 4: It's like, I think that was just a player on

453
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 4: words because I was lying, I going to hold you out.

454
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 1: I was at that time. I was like, yo, let

455
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: me just make a good I was like, sometimes you

456
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 1: got to be creative, you know.

457
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 4: I was inspired just by I'm a very imaginative person.

458
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 7: Bro.

459
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: I'mna be honest.

460
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of my childhood is stripped

461
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 4: from me, you know what I'm saying. So a lot

462
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 4: of times I just imagine love because I didn't grow up.

463
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 4: My grandmother died when I was twelve. Right now, she

464
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 4: was like really like my second mom, it's not my

465
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 4: first mom in terms of her presence.

466
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, yeah, for sure.

467
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 4: And so you know, my idea of love is kind

468
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 4: of a little I'm still learning what that is, you know,

469
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 4: I'm still learning like what that is in terms of

470
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: like a partner in life. I look around and I

471
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 4: see love. Nature is love, you know what I'm saying?

472
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 4: Self love, you know, fastening and restraining from certain things.

473
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: That's self.

474
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 4: There's so many different versions of love, right, But in

475
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 4: terms of partnership, you know, that's something I'm still I'm still.

476
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 1: Learning about you.

477
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 4: I mean, so music is the way for me to imagine,

478
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: like all right, let me just let me imagine what just.

479
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: What it feels like. I didn't let me love you.

480
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know about man, you make me go down.

481
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna watch that week about that's about working

482
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: with Gucci man break up. Yeah, But wasn't that when

483
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: he first came home from or was that? Yeah? Yes,

484
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: that's when he first came home.

485
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 5: Bro.

486
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 4: I just got very hard to get this game, for sure.

487
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 4: I'll be trying to call him now for Nigga pop

488
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 4: out at this show. You know you can't, Gucci, yeah

489
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 4: right now? But you know he family man. You know

490
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 4: what I'm saying doing his thing. I'm proudly gucci, but bro,

491
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 4: that that was.

492
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: You know.

493
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 4: I recorded the record Atlanta with with Sean Garrett. Right,

494
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 4: I was in I was in Baltimore at the time,

495
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 4: and at the time my manager Jay Erin called me. Right,

496
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, we were working on this album. I

497
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: think that's on the that's on the DNA album. Right, Yeah,

498
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 4: we're working on DNA and uh, we was just looking

499
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: for a record to lead it off. You We was

500
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 4: looking for a record to really tie everything in, you know,

501
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 4: something that was like abstract and different and not all

502
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 4: the way down the R and B lane, but just

503
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: a little bit left. And at the time we already

504
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: did like two records with Sean Garrett for the album.

505
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 4: One of another record made it called me, yo, I

506
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 4: think we got it.

507
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: Okay.

508
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 4: At the time, he's my manager. He's like, yo, I

509
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 4: think I think we got we got one. He's like,

510
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: you gotta fly to Atlanta like a sap. I said,

511
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 4: it's worth like find back. I just left Atlanta, Like nah,

512
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: you got it.

513
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: You gotta come cut this. This this is crazy.

514
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 4: So I go to atletter go in the studio with Sean.

515
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: He jumping all off the tables. You know, Sean, he

516
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean this he going crazy and

517
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: he pressed play. As soon as I hit the beat drop,

518
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: I knew it was.

519
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: I knew what it was like. This is one of

520
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: the ones. I knew what breakup was when I first

521
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: heard it. Banley, that's produced it, bigger By.

522
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 4: That's sho He sent the record. Yes, well, no, Sean,

523
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 4: the director ain't gonna lie okay. He wrote the record.

524
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: He wrote the record, and this was a specific specifically

525
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 4: supposed to be like my single, like they were in

526
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: a session to work on my album.

527
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: He wrote the record.

528
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: When I cut the record, Sean like, I ain't gonna

529
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: lie real, like I was gonna keep this.

530
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: As you're going to take you back. He came across

531
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: his mind to think about taking the best. Want to

532
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: let you know. You gotta understand. But at this time

533
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: me and Sean was like that was like my brother,

534
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

535
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: So like a lot of times, you work with writers

536
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: and people and it's very political. You go in, you

537
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 4: work and it's you know, nice to meet, you do

538
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 4: the record, you leave. Me and Sean was outside together.

539
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 4: We was going to clubs. We was going to strip

540
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: like we was turning we was turning up, you know

541
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So it's like we was having fun.

542
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: So it's like at this point, it's like your homie saying, like, Nigga,

543
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 4: let me just I'm gonna just stand there.

544
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: At the time, I'm like, okay, cool, after you dropped

545
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: the vocals, Yeah yeah, I can see yeah, that could

546
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: be good. And so you know, and uh and so

547
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm like.

548
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 4: We're just going back and forth on it because at

549
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 4: the time, he was also working on the he's working

550
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: on a record for another big artist. I'm going to

551
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: mention the names right now and this moment, but he's

552
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: working with another male artist. At the time, he was

553
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 4: working on the R and B album hip hop album,

554
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 4: and there was another record that I wanted that he

555
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: had for that person.

556
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, let me get this record

557
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: that person. That person was that guy exactly, And.

558
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 4: So I was like, Nigga, let me get this, Like,

559
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: let me get He's like, Nigga, if I give this

560
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: record this, Nigga killed me.

561
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: Bro.

562
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: He's like, I can't give you this record, you know

563
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, But I'll call make a call for you.

564
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: So we was kind of negotiating. I was like, all right, no, no, no, no, no,

565
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: this is about another record. But I said, if I

566
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: get that, then it's like, if I do this, you

567
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: got to give me that records. I can't huh the

568
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 4: person I told you about earlier, so and so for

569
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 4: so this was you know, this was, but it ain't

570
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: end up happening. I ended up getting that record. I

571
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: ended up staying on the record. It got crazy, right

572
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: we you know what I'm saying. We ain't like throw

573
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: hands or none. But we was going back and forth

574
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 4: and he was like, man, this was my single. And

575
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 4: so when I finished the record, He's like, all right, bet,

576
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

577
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: Go get Gucci on it for you. I say, Nigga

578
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: Gucci like that. He's like, nig he just came home.

579
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 4: Cut, I said, because we was thinking about features, and

580
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: I said, I bet. I said, let's let's let's make

581
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: it happen. You know what I'm saying, Let's let's make

582
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: it happen. You cant Gucci on it, We make the

583
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: play and I'll go, I'll go figure it out with

584
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 4: the label.

585
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: You feel me? Mind you I'm coming from like love

586
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: songs crying out for me. You know what I mean, just.

587
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: Record, you know, no records. But it's like breakup was

588
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 4: a different. You gotta under stay, you know what it's

589
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 4: like being signed to a label. You got to convince

590
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: niggas that this is the move. Yeah, I need you

591
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: all to spend some bread and y'all might not believe

592
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 4: in it, you know.

593
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. So that's what happened. That's what ended

594
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: up happening. I had to fight for that record. I

595
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: had to fight for it, like me and at the

596
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: time ahead of the late like we got into it

597
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: like like I'm not this was r c A at

598
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: the time, so it's like I'm not putting I'm not

599
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: about to spend money on somebody. That's not like I'm

600
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: not about to do like it was just a It

601
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: was a But the record came out and it spoke

602
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: for itself, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, it was.

603
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: It was a crazy little journey. Yeah, Gucci came out,

604
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 4: he put a verse on it, and I think it

605
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: was his first like real mainstream, so the energy around

606
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: it was just crazy. He leaving, he came to Baltimore

607
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: shot the video with me at my carib at the time,

608
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 4: like it was crazy.

609
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: It was. It was a vibe, bro, break up was

610
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: a whole Yeah, jeez, what do you like more coming?

611
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, making the record or performing the record. It's two

612
00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 8: different worlds, Bro, I feel like performing a record.

613
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: It's like I said, like this, it depends on who

614
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm working with. I can't say like every.

615
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: Record is saying like when you're working with people that

616
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: you actually enjoy work Like sometimes when you work it's

617
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 4: not like I said, it's more political. It's more like

618
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 4: making records. Back then, it was not as fun as

619
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: making records now. Now I'm having more fun.

620
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Back then, it was like, all right, bro, we got

621
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: you set up with this writer, this producer.

622
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 4: I had fun with Scott Storch Scott stories, but I

623
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: have Yeah, it's like you know, back then it was

624
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: a little bit more. I didn't have as much control.

625
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: I wasn't involved in the setting up. I was just

626
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: showing up, singing, doing the record. It's like, Okay, Neo

627
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: coming in the right or this person coming the right.

628
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: Had had a great time working with Polo. That's my nigga.

629
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, just it's certain people

630
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: that was like it more fun making the records.

631
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's just like you do the records and

632
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: you keep it more. You know what I'm saying.

633
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: When I work with Stargay, we did how our breathing

634
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: all those records like they're they're more structured, uh, you know,

635
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: underdogs more structured.

636
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

637
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: They got five writers in a room, two writers or

638
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: whatever whatever, it's two rooms going all right, Mario, were

639
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: ready for you to cut your vocals over here? You

640
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 4: go over there, you cut the vocals. You you know

641
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: you you you know you in with goats, so you delivering.

642
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: You really focus just on that. It ain't about having fun.

643
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: It ain't about girls in the vibe, it ain't about

644
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: it's just more about the work. So I've been on

645
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: both sides where you know, it was super political and

646
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: just it's just it's cutting dry and then it's like

647
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: we're working for one day, we partying and raging for

648
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: two days. But then when we come back, we about

649
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: to do like ten more records. Right, that's going to

650
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: be off that energy. Right, So I don't know, it

651
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: just depends on who I work with.

652
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever made a.

653
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: Record particularly like like like like for me, right, my

654
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: first album was a component over Jega, right, and we

655
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: had all these hood records, right yeah, and it were great, right,

656
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: but they were like they were slow.

657
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: So going into my solo album, I made What What

658
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: What What? Just for the clubs. You know what I'm saying.

659
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: Did you know what it was when you did it? Yeah?

660
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 1: I kind of did. I didn't. I didn't know one

661
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: hundred but I knew that.

662
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: If it had this reacted the way I wanted to react,

663
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: this would be a hit. But I made that record

664
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: particularly because I needed a club record. Have you ever

665
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: made records like that where you're like, you know what

666
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna do it, like maybe a super Girl

667
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: for the all ballot record, like you.

668
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Break up? Is that for sure? Okay? Break It is

669
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: definitely that, bro, because we would look like I said,

670
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: we was looking for that energy. I think the main

671
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: one the journ I just deal with with the journal

672
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: I deal with Tiger and Wayne.

673
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: That was definitely like, okay, it was that that was

674
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: a it was that was a different thing because originally

675
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: Tori was on the record, and then Wayne and Tiger

676
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: ended up doing the actual version that we put out

677
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: with the video and everything Toy got locked up, so

678
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 4: yes and no, okay, it was it wasn't about him

679
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: being locked up. It was about I wanted to actually

680
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: move the record, Okay, I wanted to shoot video like

681
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: it was like, I wanted to have fun with the record,

682
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 4: you know. And it was a hard decision to make,

683
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: bro because that's my nigga, and you know, it's like

684
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: that was a hard decision to make. But I also

685
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: had history of Wayne, you know what I'm saying, and

686
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: they me and Tiger is the one who went in

687
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: and actually.

688
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: Did the record together.

689
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: So it was just like, yeah, it was it was

690
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: a tough call, but yeah, you know that that one

691
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: was definitely one of those like, yo, let's do something

692
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: for the summer. It was another record that was in

693
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: that in that space. I feel like a ballot that

694
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: was in that space.

695
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: And music for love. But that's that's that's not nothing

696
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: you regret, not at all. What was talking about.

697
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: I was asking the way you said it. Yeah, I

698
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: was saying, do you ever have one that you did

699
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: it for the label and you regret it?

700
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: Oh that you said them that I did for the

701
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: label that I did for the club. Now you good

702
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: hey man, you keep going. It's true.

703
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: One that I cut for the label Know Some Music

704
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: for Love, Like that was the record that I did

705
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: because I wanted I wanted to do something that was

706
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: like R and B baby making record that could also

707
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: be played in the clubs.

708
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Music for Love was that.

709
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: It was like, I feel like every R and B

710
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: artist got to have if you want to be like

711
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: a golden and ship, like you got to have something

712
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 4: that can play everywhere. It's like r Kelly was one

713
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: of them, Like he made records that play album.

714
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he said, you gotta hold away, you got

715
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 7: you said, I was Kelly elise Y.

716
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: He got It's eight minutes. It was eight min and sold.

717
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: Back then, I just found that it's fifteen minis sold. Man,

718
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: I'm going, I'm going to renew.

719
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: My black listen It's it's undeniable. It's telling right, you

720
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

721
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: So I feel like, yeah, like with music for a

722
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: certain records, I always try to cover, like having records

723
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: that can work anywhere and then also giving you classics.

724
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 4: I feel like a great R and B artist can

725
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: do all of that, and I that's what I've been

726
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: trying to create. With my catalog throughout my career. You

727
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So that's that's the goal, bro,

728
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 4: that's the goal.

729
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: Let me ask a quick question because you missus Sean Garrett.

730
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: You see Sean Garrett a Dream going at it like on.

731
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: On like in the person not but that's regular. If

732
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: you know Sean, that's that's regular.

733
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Let me tell y'all something. R and B y'all been that,

734
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: y'all gangsters a long time. Bobby Brown told us a

735
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: little bit like we was like, okay, maybe.

736
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 9: Not everybody, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I go

737
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 9: backstage and I'll be like, damn, these motherfuckers don't have fights.

738
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: They got popa ree smelling, yeah, smell good. Ship like

739
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: school motherfuckers is justice Gags. There is USA Sean Garrett

740
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: and Dream. I feel like we you know, we.

741
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: Our emotions be, we let our emotions out.

742
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: And the music and ship, you know what I'm saying.

743
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: But then when she gets real, get.

744
00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: Real about giving people their flowers or they can smell them,

745
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: they thoughts while they can think them, and they drink

746
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: while they can drink them. Brother, what you have done

747
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: to this game? You have been relentless. You have dominated

748
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: you have and you have never I've never seen you complain.

749
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: I don't think you have the stress day in your life,

750
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

751
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: Like, bro, let me give your hours gold flowers. Yes, yes, God,

752
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: I love gold go oh, there was offences idea.

753
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 5: But.

754
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: For real man, you know it's rich. It's rich. So

755
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: so you look like nothing really bother as you because

756
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean is in the two things that that means.

757
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: It means you like real good at how.

758
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: Oh you're real good at blowing it off like it

759
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: probably does bother you. But it's better than Lorie to

760
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: not address it from you from Queens. That's why left

761
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: Rock City, Come on Queens, nine thirty, came on to

762
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: New York one one three six eight.

763
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: That's right. No, no, no, no, no no. But I'm

764
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: are you ready for me asking my question? My bet?

765
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: You know I want you to ask question. Yes, you

766
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: from Queens. Bro, you've been through a lot of things

767
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: that people know, Yes, but you've been through a lot

768
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: of things that people don't know. Mm hmm. And I'm

769
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: almost certain that the things that they don't know.

770
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: Has been the foundation of your character and your decisions

771
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: and who you decided to become.

772
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Today more than the things they do. Know, all right,

773
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: you're not gone. Yeah yeah, that makes your noise for

774
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: that though.

775
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: In that whole journey, then you have your observation of

776
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: other people and the things that they've done and ended

777
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: up in situations that you don't want. Like you, you know,

778
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: whether you ended up in bass situation that you got

779
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: out of it. You here now, but you've been able

780
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 4: to observe your world and to side how you're gonna

781
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: fit into it on your terms.

782
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: I learned early on.

783
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 4: I grew up around killers, drug dealers, gangsters, drug addicts.

784
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 4: My grandmother was a god loving person. My great grandmother

785
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: went to church every three days. My grandma went to

786
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: church and pray for my family every day days. It

787
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 4: still ain't work.

788
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: I seen.

789
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: I've been seeing death since I was four years old. Wow, wow,

790
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 4: I've been burying family members since I was five years old.

791
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: Listen.

792
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: I buried my mother in twenty seventeen. Oh oh bless,

793
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: I fought demons with her. She died from a heroine

794
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 4: and fitting not overdose. Like I really grew up in

795
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: this shit. I don't talk about it because why do

796
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: I need to talk about it? You know what I'm saying,

797
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: I don't you know, I came up in a town

798
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: where it's like, nigga chasing on the internet wasn't a

799
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: thing like that's not even to me, that's not I

800
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: don't mind when people do it for whatever reason they

801
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: do it. I just personally, I got to look in

802
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: the mirror at night and go to sleep and be like,

803
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: proud of who I am as a man and know

804
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 4: that I got. Anything that came to me is because

805
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: I work for it, because I personally planned for this

806
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: to happen this way, and it did. That make me

807
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: feel as a man, more grounded and more powerful and

808
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: more understanding of who I am.

809
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: And it builds a bond, my bond with myself.

810
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 4: You know, when I was in the darkest moments of

811
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: my life and me and God talking to me, talking

812
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 4: to myself, I'm.

813
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: Like, Yo, you are you got? It's just you, nigga,

814
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: It's just you.

815
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 4: So every decision you make, every person that's around you,

816
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: everything that you do, you got to be able to

817
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: hold yourself account like every choice you make. So for me, dog,

818
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: I don't just I'm not impulsive on I'm just not

819
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: impossible on shiit like you. It take a lot from me.

820
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 4: If it's not something that's real, I'm not gonna get

821
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: triggered by it. Like you gotta be real, bro, and

822
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 4: then when it's real, it's real.

823
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: That's it.

824
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: It's that simple. It seems like you don't join the circus,

825
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 3: like even me. I don't let things bother me, but

826
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: every now and then I joined the circus, like I.

827
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: Got me a scenario, and I can tell you how

828
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: we'll respond. Okay, what you mean? Uh? Your album drop?

829
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: One of your artists, your people friends go on Shade

830
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: forty five, They ask them, yo, uh did you did

831
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 3: you hear.

832
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: Mario new album? And he goes, well, I couldn't get

833
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: into it.

834
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: One of my piers, one of your peers, the person

835
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 3: that you know, Okay, how would you respond to something

836
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: like that?

837
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: Why do I need to respond? That's his opinion? Okay,

838
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: but I get it.

839
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 4: You're saying the cloud chase a version be like making

840
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: my albums out ship.

841
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Let me if I respond and people will go pay it.

842
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: I don't think like that, bro, Like I think that

843
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: I think a part of me sometimes a part let

844
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: me be honest with I think the real nigga in

845
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 4: me sometimes stunts the I was, I'm gonna say growth,

846
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: but like the attention that I could be getting right.

847
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: But that's the thing is like, Bro, I'll be seeing

848
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 4: niggas do that and then disappeared two years, So what

849
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: the fuck does that even mean?

850
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: What are you standing on? All respect? And he said

851
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: one of your peers.

852
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 10: So since let's say the example live on Shady forty five, Yeah,

853
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 10: the comment, so yeah.

854
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: Do you acknowledge that? What kind of comment that he

855
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: wasn't into the album? He just said, okay, but like radio,

856
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: like right now, you see the way he dropped. It

857
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: depends on how it said. It just depends, bro. It

858
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: depends on the energy.

859
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 5: Bro.

860
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: It's like if you like, you don't funk with that nigga,

861
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: Like if it's if it's that energy, if somebody asked

862
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: me about.

863
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: It, then I would ask the question.

864
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna go if it's if it's I'm

865
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 4: not gonna go out of my way to be like

866
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: oh he said, like that's like, okay, you has your opinion.

867
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: If he wanted to direct it to me, then it

868
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: would be a different conversation and I probably would talk

869
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: to him in person and.

870
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: On the owner ship. But I don't know. This never happened, bro,

871
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: So I think the question is why people don't let's

872
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: just say that. Let's just I think that's the real question.

873
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shot for that. It's cool, bro, that's that's everybody.

874
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: What are you trying to? Yeah? Who h'll be the rizard?

875
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: Going to a part of the wine? Please? Okay, where's

876
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: the uh at the drink? Okay? You ready drinking drink?

877
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: He said, yes, okay, and you got that burning. I

878
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: see that. I see that. All right, So you're gonna

879
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: play him the game Quick Time of Slim guys.

880
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, all right, So Quick Time with Slime is a

881
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 10: game where that we ask you either or and you

882
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 10: get can answer truthfully.

883
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Right.

884
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 10: We're not pulling it out of you if you have

885
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 10: a story with either world questions. If you say if

886
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 10: you say yes, then we don't drink, and say no,

887
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 10: we don't drink. If you say both, yeah, did.

888
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: We all drink? Let's do it drink? You got cosoo right?

889
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: You want to cast shot? Yeah sho shots? Yeah?

890
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 10: Yeah?

891
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right? Cool? Okay, cool, two options. I ain't

892
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna lie.

893
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: Mario's too smooth man, He's fast smooth. I don't think

894
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna work on that. Yeah, yeah,

895
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: yeah sure and he got he got, he got, he

896
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: got twenty twenty five.

897
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson jacket on too. You know Michael, Michael, that's

898
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: my guy, bro, Like Michael one of my biggest inspirations.

899
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: Him and Marvin Gaye, Him, Marvin and Steview, like those

900
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: are my three tops. Like we're not yeah, bro, you

901
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 4: know they're trying to say. You can see right now,

902
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: you know it might be reversing.

903
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: Its like you know, he might be he might be

904
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: able to like he might be able to a little bit, see.

905
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 3: Y'all right, right, right right, okay, yeah, ready you explained right, yes, okay,

906
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: this is the great first hold on. We're gonna wait

907
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: for Jamie. Okay, okay, shots, Okay, I'm not for sure. Okay,

908
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: this is great what it is at this point. Great

909
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: first question Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder Damn, that's crazy

910
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: just now yeah they all right, look, okay, I'm gonna

911
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: be honest. I'm gonna have to go with I love Stevie.

912
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: That's Stevee. We just talked recently. I love Stevie. I'm

913
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: gonna go with Marvin I'm not on FaceTime. He will

914
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: FaceTime that sidn't got uh, I'm gonna go with Marvin.

915
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you know we're not drinking. Okay, I'm gonna

916
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: go with Marvin. Damn. I don't take a shot. Okay,

917
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: take a shot. It makes sense. Yeah.

918
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 4: No, I've got no story with Marvin. Bro, But I wish,

919
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: I wish I could have met him, you know what

920
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 4: I'm saying. For sure, But no, Stevie is every time

921
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: I see Stevie, he always compliment me on what I'm wearing.

922
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: Bro. He always threw me off. He always feel me off.

923
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Stevie, Man, He's just he's

924
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: like that uncle that you know. I'm gonna be honest

925
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: with you.

926
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: I can't tell you all the conversations that I have

927
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 4: with Stevie because he Stevie's a real nigga little key bro.

928
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 4: Like he have a conversation like he like he really

929
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 4: understand things that's going on around him that you don't

930
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: think he understands. He understands people's energy so fast. Probably

931
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: his intuition may be better than yours. It's kind of crazy. Yes,

932
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: you know, like he'll call like in a room, like

933
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 4: he controls the energy in the room around him without

934
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: even being able to see, because he understands energy. Bro,

935
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: that's Stevie and he's real. He's he's straight. You know,

936
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 4: he's a straight shooting you know. I love Stevie man.

937
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: You know, he motivated me, grew up listening to his

938
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: intention in his music. You know, I always wondered, like, Okay,

939
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: he had to go in a different place to find

940
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: a way to relate to us right musically. But instead

941
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: of doing that, he took you where he was how

942
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: he saw music. That's why his music is so intricate.

943
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: And the colors he used in his music, the concepts

944
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 4: like nobody's ever done, and said the things that he says,

945
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it's just a complete

946
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 4: different world. And I think that's what I respect about

947
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 4: that man. But Marvin, on the other hand.

948
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: I feel like I.

949
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: Understand his life more, you know, not getting in love

950
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: that you want from the people you love, being misunderstood

951
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: using music as therapy.

952
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: But I think he came out in a time where.

953
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 4: You could be versatile and it still be accepted in

954
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: a way where it's still mainstream.

955
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: You know.

956
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: Now it's like you kind of got to stay in up.

957
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 4: You got to give people a pocket, you know what

958
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But he used his music as a as

959
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 4: therapy when he did What's going On, Like he left.

960
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Music that's therapy for me.

961
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 4: My grandmother used to play that record, Mercy Mercy Me, Like,

962
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 4: you know, I would love to be able to make

963
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: those types of records because those are I resonate with those.

964
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: I feel like my life is made for me to

965
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: make pay music that liberate people. But I just didn't

966
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: come out like that as an artist. I came out

967
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 4: as you know, a love boy and all that type

968
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 4: of stuff. That's how I was marketed as a young artist.

969
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 4: And I've been trying to make that transition, you know, because.

970
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: That's like the next.

971
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: The album that I make, that's like that I have

972
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 4: a name for everything. It's going to be a completely

973
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: different sound and a completely different intention behind it, and

974
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 4: I feel like it's gonna be something that liberates a

975
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: lot of people musically and lyrically. That's what I'm here

976
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: to do for sure, outside of the R and B shit.

977
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 4: You see that as I foresee it like it's it's

978
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: it's the album where my soul is really gonna be

979
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 4: able to feel like, Okay, we let it out.

980
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 6: Bro.

981
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: You know I ain't gonna kock it over. I got it.

982
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: We let it out, Bro. This is this is it?

983
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Marvin did that.

984
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: That's why I would say Marvin, he did that, he

985
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: was able to do that, and I want to do

986
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 4: that one day, shot for it.

987
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, TUPAC or d m X, whichever criteria you want.

988
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Have you ever met either? Oh yeah, I know, I

989
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: know X.

990
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 4: I never met Pop before. Neither X and my uncle

991
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 4: was actually they were, they were friends. They knew each

992
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: other very well. My uncle rest in peace. Anthony Hardaway

993
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 4: rest in peace.

994
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: D m X, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Yeah, motherfuckers. Man. Yeah,

995
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: you just want to drink.

996
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: I do.

997
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: Recipes, but I never It's hard to pick. It's hard

998
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: to pick to pick. I mean, tell you the truth,

999
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for a pocket, wouldn't be a d MX.

1000
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: So I guess you can take that angle. But there's

1001
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: certain people who love DMX and their own right well,

1002
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: who didn't even know.

1003
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: Pak, you know what I mean.

1004
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: So absolutely so I say that I can see the

1005
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: synergy of why you say that for sure, you know,

1006
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: because that's that's that's a big statement.

1007
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: But I can see the synergy of why you say

1008
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: that just in terms of why do you say that, Well,

1009
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 1: because it's the truth.

1010
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if it wasn't, if it wasn't, Pot came

1011
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: out first and Pop's energy and I'm gonna tell you

1012
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: the trade crazy ship when when DMX came out from

1013
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: DMX had.

1014
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: The band dan on and everything. He wasn't trying to

1015
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: be Pot at all. That was just his style and

1016
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: Yonkers that was just how they dressed it at that time.

1017
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 3: And so if you listen to the content of their music,

1018
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: content doesn't match at all.

1019
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: It's just like the like the persona.

1020
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: But if you listen to DMX really really good, he's

1021
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: preplaying a doll as supposed Park was actually a black activists.

1022
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 3: For sure, they had they had they looked similar, they

1023
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: both had six backs, but they they let they walked.

1024
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: They walked the same route, but in the opposite directions.

1025
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: I get what you said, they walked the same boardwalk,

1026
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1027
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 4: I feel like later on in his life, DMX did

1028
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 4: become more of like he started speaking more on like

1029
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: yo our power.

1030
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He prayed a lot like

1031
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: he you know, so he did have that prophetic energy and.

1032
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: Like you know, I mean what I would slightly disagree

1033
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: with say that he became more of God as opposed

1034
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: to Park, he became more of the people. So that's

1035
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: the only different for sure, that's the only difference. Like

1036
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: DMX fell motion love of God. Like you know what,

1037
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure like DMX last days his life, he was

1038
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: with us almost every day, that's crazy. And he would

1039
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 3: come and this is how he talked to me, Like

1040
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: because I just drink wine and champagne, I drink soft

1041
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: liquor like you still drink.

1042
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, bros.

1043
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: But that's not the type of person. He was a

1044
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: great person, resting piece to him. Both bro Okay, so

1045
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: let's go to the next one.

1046
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Joe or Tank Man say what up my nigga? Joe Man? Okay,

1047
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: Joe Joe explanation? Why I mean.

1048
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: For those who like may not understand R and B

1049
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: all the way like that, I just think Joe he

1050
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 4: was more instrumental in my upbringing of R and B.

1051
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like he was really somebody

1052
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: I study you know what I'm saying. Thanks amazing. You

1053
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I feel like I love that

1054
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 4: he's still here doing his thing and he's incredible. But

1055
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: I studied Joe. You know what I'm saying, a lot

1056
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: of fans out there call me baby Joe sometimes you

1057
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and certain inflections and certain things I.

1058
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: Do in music. But yeah, I would say Joe, Yeah,

1059
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: I respect that show. New additional Jackson five, Jackson Fox. Okay,

1060
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: because that Jackson bond is a new addition. Correct, I

1061
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: don't know.

1062
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 4: I never say without this without that, it's for me,

1063
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 4: that's two different time period inspiration for sure, for sure,

1064
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 4: for sure what Jackson Five's is Jackson Five's.

1065
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: At birth Mike Michael Jackson Bro Birth to Go. That's

1066
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: just that is like, yeah, yeah, you can play that

1067
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: right now. You don't even know. If you play that

1068
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: to a kid who doesn't they won't know. That's the

1069
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: true definition of timeless music. Timeless bro.

1070
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 4: And just just like they let you in their life

1071
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 4: in a different way where it's like you you learn

1072
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 4: artists development from Jackson five. You got a chance to

1073
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: see like, Okay, this is what it takes to really

1074
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: be and you also got a chance to see the growth. Bro, Like,

1075
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: there's never been a group in history that I know of.

1076
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 4: Please know that you've been able to see them from five, six,

1077
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 4: seven years old all the way to how old is

1078
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 4: Mike when he passed away?

1079
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: Fifty? Bro? Come on, bro, like it's never been it's

1080
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: never forbidden. You know that. You know they family, you

1081
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: know their history, you know his dad was whatever.

1082
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 10: You know.

1083
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's so.

1084
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: Much energy and information there that it's like you can't

1085
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: compare it. It's just crazy.

1086
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Oh, Bobby Brown or R

1087
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: Kelly you know that's the cocaine section over there, right,

1088
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: R Kelly?

1089
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: Okay, you know y'all picking an interesting artist like that.

1090
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: That's not me, I say, Kelly, Bro, you know it's

1091
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: it's a writer, you know, R and B goat again.

1092
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 4: It goes back to the Emperor conversation, being able to

1093
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 4: go from I believe I can.

1094
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: Fly to this is my son because the it's like,

1095
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: it's just it's too many different.

1096
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 4: If if if these people were generals of armies, who

1097
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: would you want to be a general? You would be like, yo,

1098
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: you he's gonna teach you how to snipe she with.

1099
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: The handgun, play with your hands like Bobby.

1100
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 4: But not to take nothing from Bobby. You know what

1101
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying this is he's an icon. You know what

1102
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: I'm saying, He's There would be no Usher without Bobby, right.

1103
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Everybody say like being an artist like you.

1104
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 4: Got it, Like you know, it's like you gotta kind

1105
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: of like crash out a little bit, be a little

1106
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: bit of a rock star, be a little bit of

1107
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: a junkie to sucking, be like on top type ship

1108
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 4: like bro, Like, nah, Bro, you just got to understand

1109
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: darkness and light because I feel like some people that's

1110
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 4: that way of like going to the dark side. My

1111
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 4: way of going to the dark side is like internal

1112
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 4: is mental. It's fucking.

1113
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: It's very you know what I mean. I dealt with

1114
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: it early on, so it was like it's just it's

1115
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: more of a mental thing for me.

1116
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: Like I feel like if I did them type of drugs,

1117
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: it wouldn't do nothing to me.

1118
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: Wait until you do those drugs and then no, I'm

1119
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: trying to no, I'll give it.

1120
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 4: You say no, no, listen, no, Okay, I've done plant

1121
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 4: medicine before.

1122
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, It's just it's it's just.

1123
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: It's just a different type of it. I haven't gotten

1124
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: that for yet because I might not be here. I

1125
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 4: won't come back. I promise you if I did Aauasca,

1126
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 4: I would You would never hear another R and B

1127
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 4: album from me again.

1128
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: You would never hear another to heavy metal. No no,

1129
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: but but the constant, the constant, the content would be different.

1130
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: I just it would be a whole of a different situation.

1131
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, it was kind of like it's like

1132
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: it's I said that. Yeah, That's why I said not

1133
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying.

1134
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: I feel like if I if I, if I did that,

1135
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: I think I would if anything, I would probably just

1136
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 4: have a crazy episode of like wanting to get it

1137
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 4: out of my body quick and then you always see

1138
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: me go through some crazy ship in front of you

1139
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 4: and then it would be gone.

1140
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: Like it's just yeah, but can you explain further the

1141
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: plant medicine you're started with, Oh, yeah, for sure. My

1142
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: first one was I started with shrooms.

1143
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 4: The one I've done the Yeah, but it's like but

1144
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 4: in a ceremonial sense, it's a different thing when you

1145
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 4: do like God, does you know what I mean?

1146
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: You're secluded in you in your own space.

1147
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's just a different level of recognition, you know,

1148
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 4: with your soul and recognizing yourself in a completely different

1149
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 4: space and understanding, like there's things that's answers questions that

1150
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: I had that I was able to answer on plant

1151
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: medicine for myself that I wasn't able to answer, or

1152
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 4: you know, being in the normal state where I'm dealing

1153
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: with life right and it's really healing, bro because it

1154
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: allows you to, in a short period of time.

1155
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: Live like ten years of life, go back, literally go in.

1156
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: And heal certain parts of yourself that you hadn't paid

1157
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 4: a since to do because it's because it's coming to

1158
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 4: the forefront in a way where you can't escape it.

1159
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: It's like putting everything in front of you. You know,

1160
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: it's beyond it's like a cosmic therapist, if you will.

1161
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: That kind of sounds the way Mike Tyson is. It's

1162
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: like a cosmic therapist.

1163
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: We're interviewing Mike Tyson. We did hroomed too right on

1164
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: the interview in live on an interview. I guess who

1165
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: gave it to us, Mike Tyson. No one's gonna tell

1166
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 3: Mike Wow, Wow, he just goes like this and we're like,

1167
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: we're scared, like because who tells no to Mike Tyson?

1168
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: Right, and he like kind of like shelves it at us.

1169
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that for ya. That's amazing.

1170
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: My wife said that was the happiest he's ever seen me.

1171
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: I was around that, Bro, that's fire.

1172
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 4: I mean if we were to be more like vulnerable

1173
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: like that and life, imagine what we be able to

1174
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: learn from each other if it was that like that's

1175
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: you know, but yeah, no, not playing medicine is amazing, bro.

1176
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: It definitely changed my life. And it it's almost like

1177
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 4: I know, I understand this realm a lot better because

1178
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 4: I understand how I'll say immature, like if I had

1179
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 4: to to to this is an immature real in a

1180
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 4: lot of ways. You know what I'm saying, distractions distractions,

1181
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: but it's just like it's running from it runs from

1182
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 4: truth in a lot of ways. So everything is like,

1183
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: you know, it's about magicianship more so than it's about

1184
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: the heart and about like being completely vulnerable, which it

1185
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 4: is hard to do that. You can't do that when

1186
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: you have you know, people that are out to take

1187
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: advantage of you. And completely misunderstand everything you say because

1188
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 4: they're just not on your level right of understanding at

1189
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: some point. But you know, I think if we make

1190
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 4: it the norm, if we continue to like bring out

1191
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: the parts of ourselves that we don't really like, if

1192
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: I reward you for the better things you do in

1193
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: life versus the worst things you do in life on

1194
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 4: a daily basis, even if you go back home in

1195
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: the hood, if people will rewarded for like if you

1196
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: go to the block and you're like, yo, I just

1197
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 4: did this fast, I just did this, and people are like, Yo,

1198
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 4: that's fire, bro.

1199
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: We reward you for that versus that's corny or that's this,

1200
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: Like just little things like that.

1201
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 4: Rewarding the better parts of ourselves as humanity, that would

1202
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 4: change so much, you know what I'm saying in our society.

1203
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: It really would. But it also comes with just being real,

1204
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1205
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: It's just like, no one's gonna change overnight, Like shit

1206
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: don't happen overnight.

1207
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: But reward those little steps that people take. That's real. No,

1208
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: I've helped people change.

1209
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: It's like that by understanding, like all right, cool, like

1210
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: reward people for like the things that they do. That's

1211
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 4: hard for them, bro, because everybody don't have the same struggles.

1212
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 4: Some people really struggle with things that's hard for them.

1213
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: It's hard for them to break them demons. You reward them, like,

1214
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 4: you know, by seeing them like yo, I see that

1215
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: you're working on this instead of shunning it or making

1216
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: them feel like, oh this that's corny or whatever.

1217
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I was talking so smart

1218
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: in the hood the other day and I was like, yeah,

1219
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: what what's homeboys? Yeah? Son, he was like sneaking going

1220
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: to college. He thinks he a smart and ship what

1221
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: the fun is conversation? What we haven't right now? Like, yeah,

1222
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: God's trying to better himself and go to college.

1223
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, think smart and sh I was like, damn, I

1224
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 4: just don't calibrate on the same level.

1225
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's just horrible. But I feel like

1226
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: sometimes even I met people smarter than people that go

1227
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: to college. Bro, it's not even about college.

1228
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 4: It's about it's about your own understanding of life and

1229
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: how deep you're willing to go down the rabbit hole

1230
00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: to understand what's going on.

1231
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: Especially today we live in a completely different world.

1232
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: It's like education is very important, absolutely, but It's also

1233
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: important for you to educate yourself beyond what you learned

1234
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: in school, beyond what your parents taught you, beyond your religion,

1235
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 4: beyond everything so you can understand. So the game that

1236
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: we plan Monopoly and multi dimensional Chess, this is what's

1237
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 4: going on. But yeah, Jada kiss or nas back to

1238
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 4: the script. Yeah, you gotta drink Jada. Yeah, as as

1239
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 4: far as you want, y'all set this up. Sons can drink.

1240
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.

1241
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: I give it you guys. Uh damn, I kind of

1242
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: got a drink to that. Bro. That's kind of crazy.

1243
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: Can I can I say this something way? This game

1244
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: goes that you want some real melicine ship, Yeah, I

1245
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: mean you can still sip it, but you got to

1246
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: go to the to the Coso Zoo.

1247
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 3: We got it for you, baby, Consoo. Nobody orders cosso

1248
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: you the only one classic. I'm in the resource. Okay,

1249
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: what she got a joint with Jada Kiss?

1250
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: Jada Kiss is my niggas. It's hard to go, but

1251
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: you had a joint when you worked together. Now yeah, yeah,

1252
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: I worked when I was on this was it? The last?

1253
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: What album was that?

1254
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 5: Bro?

1255
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: I believe it was the last album that came out right,

1256
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: the last album that came out, King's Disease, Ye, King's Disease.

1257
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: Bro the second one.

1258
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 4: Okay, walked in the studio, him and hit Boy was

1259
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: me and hit was supposed to work. He was in

1260
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 4: there working with nas You walk in the studio and

1261
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: never know who hip boy want being with.

1262
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: And I was.

1263
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 4: It was just like he was about to close the

1264
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 4: album up and I heard the record. He was like, Bro,

1265
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 4: we started vibing in there. I'm like, put some vocals

1266
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 4: on this right now, like one of them things like

1267
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 4: I just cleared the guys.

1268
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm in I'm in the studio with

1269
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: we locked in, put some vocus on the record, and yeah, man,

1270
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: like he's just one of his nas Is is just

1271
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: a different space. Bro.

1272
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 4: You know, he's one of the ghosts of lyricism and

1273
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: storytelling and you know he's uh, he's definitely in my

1274
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 4: top four.

1275
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: Even five. I like that. I've never heard a niggas

1276
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: say top four.

1277
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna gonna bite you, ship gonna get you

1278
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: up on the top four, Okay for sure, all right,

1279
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock.

1280
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I'm gonna say Dave Chappelle because I feel

1281
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 4: like he took more blows for the culture, Like he

1282
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: took more blows.

1283
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: For the art.

1284
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 4: He's he's he's not he's not scared. He don't got

1285
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: no fear of them, you know what I'm saying. Like

1286
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 4: he went to the dark side and came back. I

1287
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 4: respect people like that because I understand people like that.

1288
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, Dave Chappelle, for sure, Okay.

1289
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: That was easy a car or T pay wow, order to? Yeah,

1290
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean I have to go like as

1291
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: far as what just yeah, no order to.

1292
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say T pain. Let's say

1293
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 4: tea paining bro shut out the T Yeah yeah, yeah.

1294
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 4: It was a love of the stripper, his first nigga.

1295
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: He was a love with the stripper.

1296
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: He was the first person it's been. He's been in

1297
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 3: love with trippers now, but he was the first one.

1298
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 3: In a minute, he definitely was what.

1299
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm still in love right now. I've been in love

1300
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: with the stripper before. We all been in love stripper before.

1301
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: You're playing bro.

1302
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 11: Everybody didn't you know why because they accept me for whatever.

1303
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 5: That was.

1304
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: From the gym balls. They still.

1305
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy, but like some of them like

1306
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: sometimes like they see so much ship, like they just

1307
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: got like they're you know, it's about women.

1308
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: Interesting about women.

1309
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: They are women, whether it's a girl who's never been

1310
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 4: touched before or a girl who's fucked a thousand men. Okay,

1311
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 4: I'm being honest. Women have so much they hold. I

1312
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: mean we can make a joke about it. When you

1313
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 4: like energetically women are you can learn from both sides,

1314
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 4: like you can you know, a woman who deliberates herself

1315
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: from that type of uh world and and and gets

1316
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 4: her light back, like she's going to have a lot

1317
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 4: of I'm not saying do it. I'm just saying that,

1318
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 4: like on both sides of the perence, she's going to

1319
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 4: have a lot of She don't have a lot of stories,

1320
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 4: she don't have a lot of like spirit experience.

1321
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: But like also, no, it's not just experience, bro, she

1322
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 1: does I'm trying to put it in at the worst,

1323
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: it's just more about it's about the energy that she

1324
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: I feel like you're trying to say you can make

1325
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: a whoror housewife. No, I'm not trying to say that.

1326
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm just understood that I just understood that. I apologize.

1327
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 4: I feel like they've just gone deeper in some ways.

1328
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 4: That's necessary for certain types of information.

1329
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. In life, you know what

1330
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not even those who understand understand what

1331
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm talking. Let's do I'm saying,

1332
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, just as as as powerful in different ways.

1333
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: I respect that, Okay, Rockefella Rough Riders mm hmm. Damn.

1334
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 4: I feel like they've both made impacts in different ways.

1335
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 4: So it's like, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go

1336
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 4: with rough Riders on this one. Your head rock rough Riders,

1337
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: your head Cutters, Rockefeller.

1338
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with rough Riders on this one.

1339
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 3: Jacket says rough Riders because Michael Jackson toughness.

1340
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you're going rough Riders. Yeah,

1341
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm gona I'm gonna take a shot. I doubted you.

1342
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: I thought you were with a Rockefeller someone's you don't

1343
01:05:54,840 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: have to take a shot. I'm gonna tears. Yeah, I'm

1344
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: gonna go with I'm gonna go with rough Riders on

1345
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: this one. Bro, I swore you to pick Rocking Feller. Bro,

1346
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: I feel like when I think about because I'm thinking

1347
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: about the ship that we talked about earlier, Like when

1348
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: I think about Rough Riders, I'm thinking about like the unity,

1349
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the fact that I don't think I

1350
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: ever heard maybe I miss some. I don't think. I

1351
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: just feel like they was just they was in the streets.

1352
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 10: Bro.

1353
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 4: I feel like they was like just like really like

1354
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 4: just more like Nigga, we you know what I'm saying,

1355
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 4: we locked in, Whereas though respect to Rockefeller and everything,

1356
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 4: I felt like that was more like, I we just

1357
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 4: get money together.

1358
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: M hm. You know what I'm saying.

1359
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 4: I feel like Rockefellers was on some like I mean,

1360
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: Rough Riders was on some and bikes, Like, you know,

1361
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: bike culture in Baltimore is big.

1362
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: I say you probably I had a bike on.

1363
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 4: My first album. I had a fucking two fifty on it.

1364
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 4: Like so it's like, you know what I'm saying, Like.

1365
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: We big in Baltimore. You probably probably see them like

1366
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 3: as a kid. They probably don't even like, yeah.

1367
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah it was lit, Yeah, yeah it was lit. So yeah.

1368
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah that video that's I don't even know that. Yeah

1369
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: he shot mad videos there. This one I did not

1370
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: write this question, but he keeps is he is he Kevin?

1371
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no no no.

1372
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't even make.

1373
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 3: God they based it off for you. They watched you

1374
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: for the first five questions. That's how they watch it.

1375
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: So this one is a good one. I wish I

1376
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: would have wrote this Chris Brown or Usher.

1377
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: That's low key easy mhm h nah. I would say, yeah.

1378
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna say overall, I'm gonna say c

1379
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: B over Usher. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say c

1380
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: B okay, And I'm gonna tell you why I'm about

1381
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: to take you out down a different that's the path.

1382
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: Let's cool.

1383
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see things that most people don't see

1384
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 4: or choose not to see, and a lot of us can,

1385
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 4: but we don't talk about it. You know, some people

1386
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 4: in his life is given paths that are meant to

1387
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 4: be studied. H I see these path is is.

1388
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: It was given a.

1389
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 4: He was just given a different path, bro, And he

1390
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 4: represents something that I feel like, you know, a lot

1391
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 4: of times we overlook because of you know, mistakes that

1392
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 4: he made. You know, not everybody, but a lot of

1393
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 4: the world and a lot of people behind the scenes

1394
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 4: and shit like that. You know, I made some mistakes

1395
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 4: behind the scenes. I know how those does affected me.

1396
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 4: So I can only imagine what BRO deal it. You know,

1397
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 4: I fuck with us here. I think like talent wise

1398
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 4: and team wise, and you know, he he got a

1399
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 4: different type of army around him, you know.

1400
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: And so you know, I feel like when CB or

1401
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: if he wants.

1402
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 4: To really like step away focus on himself for like

1403
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 4: three like two a year, I give him a year

1404
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 4: because alien he can do it in a year year and.

1405
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: A half maybe and really like focus on what God

1406
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: gave him all the way. But what do you mean

1407
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: by that?

1408
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: Bro?

1409
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: Like just just my nigga felt he don't like he's

1410
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: on He's on the runner now you doing?

1411
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1412
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 4: But it's like sometimes we feel like as artists, we

1413
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 4: gotta I'm not saying is how you feel. I'm saying

1414
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 4: looking from the outside of all right, So I've been

1415
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 4: here before, Like we gotta like, we gotta keep the

1416
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 4: ship going, we gotta we gotta stay when it's hot,

1417
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: we gotta keep but sometimes we also.

1418
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: Need to step away and be like, you know what,

1419
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: let me get my let me really like tune into

1420
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: my guy energy all the way.

1421
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 4: If he did that all the way. You would just

1422
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 4: see a different being. You already see it, that being,

1423
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: but you see right now. That's why I say C

1424
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 4: B and I'm not saying that. Yeah, that's why I

1425
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 4: say CB. You get it, you get it right, you

1426
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 4: got it, you got it, you got it, you got it.

1427
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 4: You got to hit that on the note. Look up

1428
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 4: to Chris Brown got the clips or dog found Uh,

1429
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 4: that's a good versus, that would be. That's a good vers.

1430
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Uh. I'mna go with doccowne okay,

1431
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: Gucci Man or jeez.

1432
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 5: M h.

1433
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: Motherfuckers yo okay mm hmm. They go to both of

1434
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: them to big up, big up, uh, Sam Cook or

1435
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: Al Green? Al Green? Okay, love Sam Cook, love love

1436
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: his soul, love what he represented in terms of.

1437
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 4: Making specific records to liberate as people you know, think yeah,

1438
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 4: his his music was just yeah.

1439
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: Al Green.

1440
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 4: As a musician and as an artist as a writer,

1441
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 4: I a would say, you know somebody I resonate with more, But.

1442
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: All right, Tory Lanez for the Weekend. Oh that's because

1443
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 1: they broke both from Canada. I guess you didn't write this.

1444
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: I get no publishing. I get no publishing this, it

1445
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: just comes out of my label, but I get no publishing.

1446
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: Lanes bro Lanes over the weekend. Yeah, bro, what are

1447
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: you talking like? No, I'm not gonna lie about talent. Okay, okay,

1448
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about Tory is one of the most talented niggas. Yes, yes, yes,

1449
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: obviously the weekend actholeague wise, right, you know.

1450
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Like, it's interesting to see hear R

1451
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 3: and B perspective, right, because she like when I listen

1452
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: to R and B.

1453
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I'm thinking about so when I'm going

1454
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: about to go.

1455
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 4: Do a festival show, and I'm about to go do

1456
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 4: a show, and I'm like, Okay, I'm looking at my

1457
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 4: team and I'm like.

1458
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: This is the production this is I'm like in it.

1459
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 4: Of course, if you would say like production wise and

1460
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 4: like you know, in terms of mainstream and startom and

1461
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 4: like team and this.

1462
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: And this what is late the weekend?

1463
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 4: Right, we talk about raw talent. Nigga put the mic on,

1464
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 4: play a beat. I'm gonna write a song in fifteen minutes.

1465
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 4: Tory Lanz.

1466
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Now, Tory Lanez. I did a feature with him.

1467
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: He sent that ship back in like five minutes, like

1468
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 3: it's like he wrote this shit already, like and then

1469
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 3: like like I didn't send him to beat or nothing.

1470
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: I just sent it to him.

1471
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 3: He just he's like like he's like send it to

1472
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 3: him now. And I was just like, all right, who

1473
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 3: you one of those guys. I was like all right,

1474
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 3: and like you know, like you know, you know, I'm

1475
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 3: used to every parody in the industry, so I'm thinking,

1476
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna send it to him, and he's just

1477
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: gonna like ghost me.

1478
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: Like he was like like I text him and you

1479
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: get it, and he asked me and then he's like, yes,

1480
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: I got it. And it was like I was like,

1481
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Had vocals in there and everything. Yeah,

1482
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: you're right. I never got to do that with The Weekend.

1483
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: I'm good.

1484
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 3: I never met The Weekend avaunt or genuine. I ain't

1485
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 3: gonna lie about to say that anyway. Come on, nobody

1486
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 3: with the Pony. Come on, Patty LaBelle or LaRita Franklin.

1487
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: That's that. This is the first one. I'm like, Okay,

1488
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: that's good. That's a good one.

1489
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 4: Patty or Aretha frank mm hmm, ship because like me

1490
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 4: and Patty that's like Auntie, Yeah, that's personal. But I

1491
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 4: would go, I would go, I'll go Wreatha only because

1492
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, without Aretha, that wouldn't be you know,

1493
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 4: without a Resa, that wouldn't be a Patty. But like

1494
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 4: I feel like there was, Like I actually did one

1495
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 4: of her songs on the Mass Singer and you know Glo.

1496
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: Rilla's I Ain't got no bitch, no nigga ain't got me.

1497
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: That's from Aretha Franklin. You know that's from Aretha Franklin.

1498
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah bro, Yeah Franklin from one of them,

1499
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: so crazy.

1500
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 4: She so bro her music, like she's saying again, like

1501
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: chills through my body listening to her music, like you

1502
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 4: hear you can hear.

1503
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: The pain in her voice, like in a different way. Yeah, Like, yeah,

1504
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: go with that's crazy. I't know that though. That's goldy

1505
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: for new artists to be doing. That's goldy. Look Tiger

1506
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: a little Wayne, Okay, it's going on, Yeah Wayne bro okay.

1507
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 3: Because there's no no way, no Tiger. If there's no

1508
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 3: way no Tiger, I'm just ye coach stad.

1509
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're talking about right now. Because let me

1510
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: change it up a little bit. Tiger or Big Sean

1511
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: mhmm uh man.

1512
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even compare these artists, but I would say

1513
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 4: just yeah, lyricism wise, big sean. Okay, you know what

1514
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1515
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 3: A couple more go back at the interview. Yeah, okay,

1516
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 3: morning to go back to the interview about you. Okay,

1517
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 3: I want to take that Lloyd or Trey songs.

1518
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: You're with Lloyd Ben Hold up, I won't go I'm

1519
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: gonna go Trey. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. L A or Miami,

1520
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: be honest, man, depends on what type of nigga you is.

1521
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: But we'll go with uh.

1522
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 4: Miami just doing some fun ship like having fun like

1523
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 4: good energy, Like if you want to be in the

1524
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 4: Devil's then and still go outside and the and the

1525
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 4: environment gives you energy back.

1526
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: Miami. If you want to be in the Devil's then

1527
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: in an environment don't give you energy back. In l A,

1528
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,799
Speaker 1: a real ship like I. You know, in Miami.

1529
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: I can go out and be on demon time when

1530
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 4: I was or not on anyone, and I go outside

1531
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 4: at six a m.

1532
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: And I sitting under the moonlight, and I just I

1533
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: get all my energy back. Okay, Okay, you go outside

1534
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: this you ain't getting your energy back.

1535
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 12: Don't give it away right right, that's ill Gott Storch

1536
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 12: or Timbaland, oh la, you get.

1537
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: Your energy back, but you gotta take it from somebody else.

1538
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: That's the crazy brute. But you said what Scott Storch

1539
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: or Timbling damn.

1540
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1541
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Scott Storche It's only two morns

1542
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: because that's an interview pits Markey ol dbs mm hmm.

1543
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: I love biz. I'm gonna go with o dB. Okay,

1544
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: is that a particular reason why? I just feel like

1545
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: o dB was just more of a lyricist in a way.

1546
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 4: I feel like he has been a part a part

1547
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 4: of some records, Like I understand him more lyrically in

1548
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 4: some ways, and I feel like, uh, I don't know, bro.

1549
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 4: I look at him and I feel like I see

1550
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: somebody that I know from Baltimore. I see somebody that

1551
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 4: I know from where I from. I don't know if

1552
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 4: it's relative. He's definitely everything.

1553
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna ask me this question.

1554
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen o dB somewhere in the bottom line.

1555
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 4: It definitely seems like a piece of biz, love Biz,

1556
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 4: the last one get Yeah, Yeah, this is our favorite.

1557
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 1: It's called it's loyalty or respect.

1558
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 13: Loyalty or respect. Yeah, I take respect, Okay, I take respect. No,

1559
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 13: I take loyalsy.

1560
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: Let's just take a shot, man, I'm gonna take loyal Okay,

1561
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be.

1562
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 4: Tell you why, cheers. I'll tell you why, bro, Because

1563
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 4: niggas can fake respect. People can fake respect.

1564
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: You can they fake loyalty as well.

1565
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 4: Not really, because at some point they can fake respect

1566
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 4: you because at some point the loyalty.

1567
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: Like you can you can you feel loyalty?

1568
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 4: I don't know about y'all, but I can. I can see,

1569
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I can see when the loyalty,

1570
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 4: like I feel like loyalty and respect to me kind

1571
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 4: of seeps into like they kind of touch each other.

1572
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 4: That's why I took away, Like you know what I'm yeah, yeah, no, no, no, yeah,

1573
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 4: But like at the root of it, I'll take the

1574
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 4: loyalty over the respect.

1575
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because.

1576
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 4: If you disrespect me, I can disrespect you worse right

1577
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 4: then and there, and then you got inside you got

1578
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 4: to decide if you really want to do that again.

1579
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 4: But loyalty wise is like I'd rather you be loyal

1580
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 4: to me because I can fix the respect part, I

1581
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 4: can't fix the loyalty, right, I feel like that. I

1582
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 4: feel like I can fix the respect even if, even

1583
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 4: if like you don't respect me when I'm not around,

1584
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 4: I can't control it.

1585
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 1: But when I'm around, I can control it. How you respecting?

1586
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 4: But the loyalty part is like, you can fuck up

1587
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 4: a whole bag, you can fuck up generational wealth, you

1588
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 4: can fuck up a lot Lloyd's friendship.

1589
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: You know, Okay?

1590
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 3: They asked me. I said, do you have questions Formorrio

1591
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 3: and Rob Marksman? You know Rob Marxman, This Rob Marxmith

1592
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: on my face? He said, yeah, ask him if he

1593
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: ever got sick of saving the damn princess? Did he

1594
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 3: ever consider just leaving her ass there?

1595
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea what Bro talking about. I don't

1596
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: know what he's talking about. Neither. Should I just call him?

1597
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: This is on Twitter? He said? Should you call him?

1598
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: You call somebody? Yeah, I know, because what is he

1599
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: talking about? Hold on, let's see you're closer to the Rob.

1600
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 1: We don't know what then you're talking about? Your question?

1601
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 3: We got, we got, we got Mario right here. Rob

1602
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 3: from XXL magazine used to be x L.

1603
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I just I just wanted to want

1604
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: marl or No, Mario has no idea what you're talking about.

1605
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: I was joking with you, man, I know you were

1606
01:22:49,760 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: an interview. Now you talk about super Mario. I'm like,

1607
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: you got me, you got you got, you got you

1608
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: gotta be good. Let me take a shop of that.

1609
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 1: Let me take a Yeah, you got another bottle over

1610
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: my head too. I see you see you taking my man.

1611
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: Come on, man, he said, I was joking. Yeah, okay, okay,

1612
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about crying out for me?

1613
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was you here when you first heard that record?

1614
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 4: Would you when you first heard it?

1615
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: What was you like? What was your feelings? I felt

1616
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: like she was crying out for me. Yeah, yeah, crying

1617
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 1: out for me. I mean that record is like.

1618
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 4: That was like, you know, if you take Mario and

1619
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 4: Joe to put him in one like that was my

1620
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 4: joy moment. That was like my version of what Joe

1621
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 4: to see what it did in R and B at

1622
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 4: the time, you know what I mean, shout out to

1623
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 4: Jasper and pull it and done.

1624
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: That was that moment. You know, that was like raw.

1625
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: That was like, no, nigga, this last take my voice

1626
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: don't got no more but truly truly me like I

1627
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: was cracking, like I was.

1628
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 4: It was very wrong, It was unpolished, but that was

1629
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 4: just me, like just really on some real R and

1630
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 4: B shit Like yeah, okay, definitely one of my favors

1631
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 4: in the catalog for sure.

1632
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah how about Space? Mmm? Did you literally the space?

1633
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 4: Space was like some of my new album Glad You

1634
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 4: came and just came out what came out in December.

1635
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 4: But Spaces is if you listen to it musically, it's

1636
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 4: really old to like people who.

1637
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: Like jazz and you know, jazz and R and B

1638
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: fusion music. This album is like a.

1639
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 4: Homage to like music that was inspired by. It reminds

1640
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 4: me of my grandfather. My grandfather used to if my

1641
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 4: grandfather was alive, he would have loved to come to

1642
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 4: this show because he loved to drink and he loved

1643
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 4: jazz music. No, No, my grandfather, he grew up in Baltimore.

1644
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 4: He worked at a beer refinery since he was like

1645
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 4: fourteen years old, so like he was really you know,

1646
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 4: he was in that shit like he you know, you

1647
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 4: go to his always neat house, neat at a bar

1648
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 4: play Jazz Music Records he put me on the jazz

1649
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 4: early on when I was a kid. The ain't time

1650
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 4: I go over there. It was come to the bar,

1651
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 4: listen to jazz and talk about whatever. But you know,

1652
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 4: when I listened to the track that Bini x se me,

1653
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 4: it kind of remind me of my grandfather, you know

1654
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And I just I was inspired by it.

1655
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all got to put this on the album.

1656
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 4: So me and James Follor went in and space is

1657
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 4: really just about inviting invite somebody into your space. Is

1658
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 4: like we're creating this space. And you know, I'm big

1659
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 4: on I understand how to control my world my three sixties,

1660
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 4: so like behind the scenes is like it just it

1661
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 4: just relates to my life and how I'm moving general,

1662
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 4: just like you know, controlling your space, bro.

1663
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1664
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 14: So, yeah, it's Mo's the best restaurant in Baltimore, m

1665
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 14: Pless you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Bro,

1666
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 14: it's one. It's definitely one.

1667
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: They got my picture up there, they got your pitch

1668
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, you made it a legend. That's my favorite restaurant.

1669
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 4: Fire But like but Moses, like it's been around for

1670
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 4: a long time. So it's like I get it, you

1671
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I used to go to the

1672
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 4: more like Captain James. Like Captain James, I used to

1673
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 4: go like late night type ship. But like, yeah, Moses

1674
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 4: definitely up there. That's because I ain't gonna lie. I

1675
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 4: can't like drive through.

1676
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: Like if I'm driving through, I gotta stop and I

1677
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: make sure my picture is still up there. Yeah. Yeah,

1678
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: cleaning and ship with some wind decks on there. All right. Yeah,

1679
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, I don't Baltimore what you get you when

1680
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: you went there, it was just what I get. I

1681
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: get the to tell what the cheese on top of it,

1682
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: with the with the with the crab, all the crab,

1683
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: with the butter. Oh I gained twelve pounds, no problem,

1684
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: right then and there. We don't have to wait tomorrow

1685
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: like it happens right there. Oh, I love it. I

1686
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: love Bortimore.

1687
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 3: And by the way, because people just say Baltimore with

1688
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 3: the crabs, yeah, Baltimore actually has some of the best

1689
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 3: seafood in the world.

1690
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: Not just the craft.

1691
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 3: I'm a represent for y'all because because you travel.

1692
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone just just gives you because it's fresh.

1693
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 5: Bro.

1694
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 4: Yes, it's right from the Chesapeake. It's fresh, right, and

1695
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 4: the seasoning everything is theirs, right, the d of.

1696
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: The yeah right.

1697
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,919
Speaker 4: But everything else I got to get imported certain.

1698
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 3: Times, yes, but Bortimore got seafood is crazy. So all right,

1699
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 3: now this is this is this is one of the

1700
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 3: best records the history of the world and the history

1701
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 3: of the world, in the history of the world. This

1702
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 3: is when ever, gosh, when they meet they girl. You know,

1703
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 3: sometimes you just just meet a girl like that's my soulmate,

1704
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 3: even if it was for two seconds, two years, for two.

1705
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: Seconds or whatever.

1706
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 9: Sometimes love come on and it's like every day, I'm

1707
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 9: gonna be honest with you.

1708
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Every such a blessing.

1709
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 3: Every day, it's such a blessing, like like that ship

1710
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: right there, Like I'm gonna be honest like some artists.

1711
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, to have a record like that in your catalog,

1712
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:28,799
Speaker 1: it's so unique. And that's when we played every wedding

1713
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: it's it's an unidentified object. It's an alien in your catalog,

1714
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: every wedding.

1715
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:40,959
Speaker 3: Everywhere this baby shower setting the moves sending them revealing,

1716
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 3: which that it called the revealing.

1717
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, general gender revealed absolutely, yeah, I

1718
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1719
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 3: Man, everywhere like listen, listen, there's nothing nowhere that that

1720
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 3: record can't be played. Yes, like like even in the

1721
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 3: ball game, ball game, God proposes to his girl.

1722
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:08,560
Speaker 1: You should let me, like, there's nothing you went in

1723
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: atari are you You could sing to your child, your mom,

1724
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: your girlfriend? You know, it's just it's just a damno.

1725
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: Let me take a shot for that one. I wasn't.

1726
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that. But I think it's to

1727
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: be studied.

1728
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 4: I think it's definitely gonna be studied as a as

1729
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 4: a writer, as a as somebody who like has been

1730
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 4: more instrumental writing wise, Like I've been studying different types

1731
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 4: of records, and I think it's still a record to.

1732
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: Be studied in terms of the simplicity and it's impact.

1733
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I love you as it's

1734
01:29:52,920 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: just a classic, bro, It's an omnipresent, spiritual How many

1735
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: times do you perform it that? Like, do you before

1736
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: more than once? Or you just do? I mean like

1737
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, like bring it back, like like yeah

1738
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: it's twice, okay, twice I do one with the record.

1739
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 4: In one agapella. Yeah, that's usually how it happens. And

1740
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 4: that's when the girls go yeah.

1741
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: That's when that's when the umbilical court is like.

1742
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, that is a real yeah, like it's

1743
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 3: a real universal record, like like it's a global record.

1744
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna be honest with you, Yeah,

1745
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 3: I don't think that record will never die. Every day

1746
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 3: such a blessing because there's someone somewhere that's always to

1747
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 3: let you love them.

1748
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everywhere, like no matter.

1749
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 4: What, you don't know, you need love even you know

1750
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 4: you want it. It's crazy, man, it's I never get

1751
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 4: tired of performing it. I never get tired of seeing

1752
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 4: people like in that space, like no matter what they're

1753
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 4: going through, I've seen, bro, I've been in the biggest

1754
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 4: audiences in the world. I've been in Southern clubs with

1755
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 4: just dark energy, you know what I'm saying.

1756
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: And he's still sing seeing like gangster singing the record

1757
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 1: like you still sing.

1758
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 10: You know.

1759
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 4: It's just like love is universal, bro, It's like you

1760
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 4: can't even change, like it's just it's and it's crazy

1761
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 4: because you like, at times, there was a time as

1762
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,560
Speaker 4: an R and B artist when you look at the

1763
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 4: charge and you look at the things like damn ducking

1764
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 4: with R and B.

1765
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: No more like shit dark out here for us? Why

1766
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: the numbers looking like this? Why they offered me only

1767
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 1: for the show? What the fuck is going on? Because

1768
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: hip hop is just going so crazy.

1769
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 4: Niggas ain't want to come out, like you know, and

1770
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 4: even if they didn't want to come out, the promoters

1771
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 4: didn't want.

1772
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: To pay you for you know what you deserve, you

1773
01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But like now, this is just

1774
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: it's different.

1775
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 4: R and B is like respected again and it's back,

1776
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 4: and it's just you know, I think it's records like

1777
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 4: let Me Love You. That's a part of the reason

1778
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 4: why R and B still love because they still play

1779
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 4: it on mainslaand radio today.

1780
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: They still one of the few.

1781
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 4: That they still champion and be proud to play without

1782
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 4: the red tape, you.

1783
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, And that's a blessing. I have

1784
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: one of those records because not.

1785
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 4: Everybody has that, you know what I'm saying, Especially for

1786
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 4: my my, you know my when I first came out,

1787
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 4: like the artists that came out when I came out.

1788
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't plan on stopping anytime soon, bro,

1789
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 4: Like this I was I was meant for this I

1790
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 4: was meant for, you know, the resilience that it take

1791
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 4: to be an artist.

1792
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: You know, everything that I grew up seeing and been

1793
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: through all that. It just it made me a soldier

1794
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: for you know, fighting through whatever it takes to keep

1795
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: your your train moving. You know what I'm saying. You

1796
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: got to keep it moving, you know what I mean.

1797
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: And obviously those records are a superpower, but the new

1798
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 1: music and having you know, just having the platform and

1799
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 1: having the talent.

1800
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 4: You know, let me tell you through, I used to

1801
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 4: have seen that record still and it's like getting those

1802
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 4: notes some nice is harder than others.

1803
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: But it's like.

1804
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 4: I still feel like when I first heard the record,

1805
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 4: I still feel like when I first singing in the studio,

1806
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 4: I still feel at that love for it is still there,

1807
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 4: and I'm like, Damn, through everything I've been through, I

1808
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:33,560
Speaker 4: still have to love for it.

1809
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: That's all God, bro, Because sometimes you can not, like

1810
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, you're getting numb, Like certain points, you're just

1811
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 1: getting numbing. You're just going through. How many buns, nigga,

1812
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: how many bunks you got right there? You're still going,

1813
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 1: it's still going, still going.

1814
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 10: Still In the role you play as an artist now

1815
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 10: then up and coming artist and they want to redo it,

1816
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 10: is that untouchable.

1817
01:33:55,320 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 4: If they want to redo the record particular, or doesn't

1818
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 4: sing it over a redoor, doesn't use the.

1819
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: I think any classic is kind of untouchable in general.

1820
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: But you can, you know, it's like it's like a young.

1821
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 4: If you you know, when you date somebody and then

1822
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 4: you might like five years later, y'all might have a

1823
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 4: little moment be like it ain't the same, but it's

1824
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 4: still you remember it.

1825
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: It's like this ship he was my little love and

1826
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: respect that wants to honor you and do that track.

1827
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: You know you're not the same. It's never gonna be

1828
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: the same. But I think that's the beautiful part about

1829
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:31,759
Speaker 1: making classics.

1830
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 5: Bro.

1831
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: The whole point is like, don't touch it. No, no, no, Like,

1832
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: if it's done right, it can be a moment for

1833
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: this generation. Bro, Like I'm not like that's my record,

1834
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: but if it's done right, if it's done right.

1835
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 4: I've had at least fifty to seventy artists over the

1836
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 4: course of my career hit me to be like, yo,

1837
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 4: I want you to redo this during woman like no,

1838
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 4: good man, it's got to be it's got to be.

1839
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: The right and maybe it doesn't need it, who knows.

1840
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: But let me tell you the beauty about that record.

1841
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 3: Like, uh, you know, most of the time when it's

1842
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 3: a hit record, you know, R and B, you know,

1843
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 3: the females claim it, and you know, the females claim

1844
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 3: it like they claim like this is their record. You

1845
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,560
Speaker 3: hardly ever get to see like guys step up and

1846
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 3: be like I like this record.

1847
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm fun with this record.

1848
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 3: That's kind of like the first record that I've ever

1849
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 3: seen like dogs but like everything and everything, like like

1850
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 3: that's the first time I'm kind of seen guys claim

1851
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 3: it like you know what I mean, like like and

1852
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 3: and and except their vulnerability except there, uh what Ralph

1853
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,600
Speaker 3: transmits their sensitivity, you know what I'm saying. Accept that,

1854
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 3: like but claim it though, Like you know, that's why

1855
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 3: this record is very very special.

1856
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: It's because it's toxic at the root of it. Love

1857
01:35:54,080 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 1: is toxic. Okay, Okay, the record she forgot that far

1858
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: forgot no, but this is. But it's you know, it's

1859
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 1: in love with a little bit of Texas City.

1860
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 4: It's like but it's like I don't know, if you

1861
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 4: it depends on where they're at, you know, in the relationships,

1862
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 4: like you know, mm hmm, yeah, you don't believe his stories.

1863
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: You know that they're all lives.

1864
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 4: It's like you catch on her when she's weak, when

1865
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 4: he out of town, even fucked up.

1866
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 5: You know.

1867
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 1: It's like women are interesting creatures. Man.

1868
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, bro, because like you know, a good

1869
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 4: woman right when she's locked in with her dude all

1870
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 4: the way, she might entertain some ship.

1871
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: Some of y'all, some of the lad's gonna look at

1872
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: this and be like, now that's not true. A good

1873
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 1: woman will never entertain way.

1874
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 4: It's like her level of entertaining maybe responding back to

1875
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 4: a text that she been the North for fucking.

1876
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: The whole year, niggah. Where So another level of.

1877
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 4: Entertaining from a woman could be going out to meet

1878
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 4: the nigg at a gas station. Who knows, right, but

1879
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying that let me love you the conversation versus

1880
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 4: for those moments when a nigga sucking up in a.

1881
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: Relationship or he's just not as president.

1882
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 4: And you you know, was sucking up and like that

1883
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 4: nigga that she's been ghosting for the last six months,

1884
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 4: he slided in for a second.

1885
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, whatever, right, you know you you're talking about

1886
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:41,879
Speaker 11: two different scenarios.

1887
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, but yeah, it's that whatever scenario it is,

1888
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 1: it's that little quick space where it's like she might

1889
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: do something she wouldn't normally do. You should let me

1890
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 1: love you, right, Or it's just simple like everybody interpret

1891
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: interpret music different. It could be a girl that's single,

1892
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: that she's been celibrated for whole year. She finally meet

1893
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: one out of the hundred guys to try to talk

1894
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 1: to her. It's like, like, what's up, Like like she

1895
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 1: might that he might get that chance, right, you know.

1896
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 1: So it's our relative. It's just that's what makes the

1897
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: record crazy. Bro, just represents it can fit in so

1898
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 1: many scenarios. Yeah, but the hook is so universal universe

1899
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: it goes good. Bro, you ain't a different type of

1900
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 1: niggas man. Yeah all right, man celebrating like Mario Man.

1901
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: Shout out to the whole squad. We celebrated you tonight. Bro.

1902
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah some properly thank you brother. You don't want to

1903
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: continue to do and we got some more joints. Yeah

1904
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: all right.

1905
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 4: As far as like bar for Bar, you wanted the

1906
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 4: top two in New York, Bro, Bar for Bar, Jada

1907
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 4: Kiss for Sure who the other one that in there?

1908
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: Bro, I don't even know who the other one is yet.

1909
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. But Jay's top two bro bar for bar,

1910
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: top two in New York and New York like his

1911
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: his you know, maybe top top three, top three, top three,

1912
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: give me that space. But yeah, Jada, that's my nigga. Bro.

1913
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody else speaks for a Nicki Minaj? How did

1914
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 3: that come about? That's when she was like first thought,

1915
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 3: bubbling correct.

1916
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: She was already lit. Okay, you know.

1917
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 4: This is I was in Atlanta, I was working on

1918
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 4: I was in between albums, and again, I'm always looking

1919
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 4: for records to like kind of reinvent my conversation. If

1920
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 4: you look at my catalog, you'll you'll hear just like

1921
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 4: different conversations throughout my career. Tapped in with Polo when

1922
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 4: to see him. He played me this record. I got

1923
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 4: it off the bat. I'm like, okay, And this was

1924
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 4: a time where I was looking to really reconstruct my

1925
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 4: relationship and internally with RCA, like from a creative control aspect,

1926
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 4: and I brought this record to the table.

1927
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: We recorded a record Atlanta with Polo. I send it

1928
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: to Nikki. She loved it all. Top okay, Mark nah

1929
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: and said it. Yeah, we sent it to her. She

1930
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: sent the record back in like two three days. She

1931
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: loved it one. You know, when Nikki loved the record,

1932
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: she she would with her she don't but Bro, it

1933
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: was this was. Yeah, it's my first time working with Nikki. Yeah,

1934
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: first time, and.

1935
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 4: I felt like the record had a very like it

1936
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 4: just had it had a special conversation in it in

1937
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 4: terms of the lyric, but also energetically and production wise.

1938
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 4: It just it was grungy, but it was also soulful.

1939
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yo, I need it. I want to

1940
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 4: put a female on this record because I feel like

1941
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 4: it's not enough conversations, you know what I mean with

1942
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 4: females and males. It's like classic moments. I said a

1943
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 4: big vision for this record, like huge vision. I had

1944
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 4: the video treatment, done everything done for it, you know.

1945
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,560
Speaker 4: And this moment was really the moment that made me

1946
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 4: turn away from like major labels at that time because

1947
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 4: they didn't get it.

1948
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: Your label, her label, My label didn't get it at

1949
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 1: the time. And I'm like, Yo, this record is so

1950
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 1: timeless and it's so special, you know. And yeah, bro,

1951
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 1: but Nikki came through. Bro. She she killed it.

1952
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 4: And you know, the video that we put out wasn't

1953
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 4: even my concept like that. The video that came out

1954
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 4: was completely different from the concept I had for the

1955
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 4: video and what I wrote for the treatment, because I

1956
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 4: knew that me and her being on a record at

1957
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 4: that time was visually it was important. Everything, the whole

1958
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 4: everything was was super important. So you know, it was

1959
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,560
Speaker 4: just one of those moments that and that was the

1960
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 4: last record I put out with RCAA before were independent.

1961
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 4: You know, I literally asked to go independent after that.

1962
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 4: It was one of those moment I just felt like

1963
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 4: it was these type of moments just just don't these

1964
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 4: type of alignments.

1965
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, when the planet line up, but

1966
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: the planet, you know, it's like those those things just

1967
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 1: don't happen.

1968
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 4: As artists, we're like different solar systems, and shit, we

1969
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 4: got so much energy moving around.

1970
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 1: It's like not to put us on light.

1971
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 4: But like when planets aligned, you got to respect that

1972
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 4: and like put it in perspective and understand what's happening,

1973
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 4: you know.

1974
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 1: And so it was one of those moments where I

1975
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: was like, I bet, like I need to I need

1976
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: to be able to move how I need to move yeah,

1977
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 1: but none of nevertheand like it's still a special Records,

1978
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 1: still incredible.

1979
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:38,560
Speaker 4: But the impact could have been way bigger than what

1980
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 4: it was, and still to this day is still one

1981
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 4: of the ones.

1982
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: I still got it in my show for sure.

1983
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 5: Speaking of being independent, you've been around both era physical copy,

1984
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 5: yeah and streaming.

1985
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: What do you think about streaming today? What do I

1986
01:42:55,240 --> 01:43:01,719
Speaker 1: think about it? It's if I was in a room

1987
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: on both sides.

1988
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 4: I feel like there's one side whereas like the people

1989
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 4: that don't make the music, it's like, oh, yeah, how

1990
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 4: can we eat off of the shit on another level

1991
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 4: before anybody else? And then there's another side that's saying, like, yo,

1992
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 4: how can we protect ourselves from them eating off our shit?

1993
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 4: If I was in this room over here when they like,

1994
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,600
Speaker 4: I wish I was in that room amongst that conversation.

1995
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 4: It's just like, bro, I don't know what happened. I

1996
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 4: wasn't in neither one of those rooms. But I wish

1997
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 4: that we would have won the battle from streaming. Yes,

1998
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 4: I wish that we would have won the battle, but

1999
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 4: I feel like we will in the future. I wish

2000
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 4: that we would have won the battle as artists, as

2001
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 4: see as entrepreneurs as people who you know, influence the game,

2002
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:56,560
Speaker 4: influenced the culture. You know, I wish I would I

2003
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 4: would have had the mindset I have, but with the

2004
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 4: power to make the moves back then. Hm, because my

2005
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 4: mindset is global. My mindset is you know, freedom, generational wealth.

2006
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 4: But I didn't have the power to make those types

2007
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 4: of moves. But I know somebody did and it maybe

2008
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,879
Speaker 4: it didn't work, but uh, you know, streaming is obviously

2009
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 4: it's something that it's not affects a lot of us.

2010
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 4: Artist It's not in the artist favorite at the moment.

2011
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 4: I don't think it is like even if for independent artists,

2012
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 4: I don't think.

2013
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 1: It is bro cast. It costs too much.

2014
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 4: And this because then you have all the other agencies

2015
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 4: that like became popular. You know, you got like three

2016
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 4: four steps of people that are eating off of you

2017
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 4: putting out a record.

2018
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2019
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 4: You got all this shit behind the scenes, you got

2020
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 4: all of the agencies and marketing. Like it's just it's

2021
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 4: it created a lot of ways for other people to

2022
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 4: make more money than the artists sometimes make in a sense,

2023
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So some artists, not all arts,

2024
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 4: but you know, the blessing of having like a catalog

2025
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 4: is different because I rather I stream one hundred million

2026
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 4: on the album or not. I still go out and

2027
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 4: tour relevancy is more important than sometimes the streams. If

2028
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 4: you're working and you're moving and you're making the right moves,

2029
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 4: you can still make incredible money.

2030
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: That's not the thing.

2031
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 4: But in terms of like fairness or streaming, because you

2032
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 4: asked me about streaming, it's unfair. It's unfair, bro, It's

2033
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 4: raping the game. They raping the game. They for years,

2034
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 4: you know, but I feel like it's going to turn around.

2035
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 4: And then when they turn around, all those companies that

2036
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 4: work a lot of people's publishing and all that ship

2037
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 4: they about to eat crazy and hopefully you kept some

2038
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 4: of it so we can eat.

2039
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 1: So God comes down from earth.

2040
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,719
Speaker 3: God did come down. He came down from leaving. Yeah,

2041
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 3: and he said, Mario, you need to make one record,

2042
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 3: save humanity.

2043
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 1: One record.

2044
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,839
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you one producer.

2045
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna give you one artist. Damn, Okay, who is

2046
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 3: you picking?

2047
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 5: Dead?

2048
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 1: Are alive? That's the part I was. You're very shocked.

2049
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 6: You can have that.

2050
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 4: I'll give you that, yes, run record Quincy Jones. I'm

2051
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 4: glad for sure. I said one artist, I want a writer.

2052
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, one artist and one producer, my artist and one producer,

2053
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones.

2054
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 1: You can have a writer too if you want, you gotta.

2055
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 1: You can have a writer to need Quincy Jones as

2056
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: production as production Quincy Jones. And I'm gonna say, damn,

2057
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: the feature of the writer. And I'm gonna go all

2058
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to artists and artists Jones and then

2059
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones. Steze want that?

2060
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 7: Now?

2061
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: I know.

2062
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 4: It could be Marven two honestly, look because yeah, but

2063
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Stevie Quincy Stevie, and then you got

2064
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 4: to write her now mm hmm, I'm gonna go Marvin

2065
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 4: is the writer. Yeah, Steve bar sounds like it hit

2066
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 4: to be folks. Yeah, yeah, Stevie.

2067
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 3: So you ain't get another shot. Don't get another shot.

2068
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 3: You just say humanity, what I'm saying, we got you know,

2069
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 3: why would we just think? God damn shut shut? So

2070
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, and boy is there If

2071
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 3: I was ever asked this question back then, I wouldn't

2072
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 3: know how to answer it, right. But you know, as

2073
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm mature, and you know, I got to different levels

2074
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 3: in life. I realized that this is this, this question

2075
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 3: that I'm about to ask you. I have a lot

2076
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 3: of different answers to this. Is there every anything that

2077
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 3: you wish you you could have did better or like

2078
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 3: didn't do?

2079
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? Like, all right, let

2080
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 1: me just let me break it down for you a

2081
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: little bit.

2082
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of us coming from the hood at one point,

2083
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 3: we don't think our ship thinks once we start making

2084
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 3: a certain level, right, certain vel and even your friends

2085
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 3: sometimes your friends can kind of tell you, but they're

2086
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 3: not living what you're going through, right, So all of

2087
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 3: us kind of like goes through a certain process that

2088
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 3: we have to kind of learn. Is there anything thing

2089
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 3: that you ever did? But like there's so many things,

2090
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 3: Like for instance, like I'm in the airport with friends

2091
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 3: Tata and says to me, Man, I want I want

2092
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 3: this this girl to do a remix for your for

2093
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 3: your song. I was like yeah, and it's like, yeah,

2094
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. If we just give thirteen grand,

2095
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 3: it should be good.

2096
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: And I was like thirteen grand and I was like, no,

2097
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding this. Fifteen grand. You know that girl

2098
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 1: winds up being Rihanna. Yeah, I'm laughing because I know

2099
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 1: how you probably felt. But yeah, like what I'm saying

2100
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: is you ever been in your own bag where you're

2101
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: sucking up your own bag that much.

2102
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 4: I've probably been in there a couple of times, don't

2103
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 4: know even no aboudty but two yeah, like bro for sure.

2104
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I was. I was living in Jersey at the time.

2105
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 4: Around the time Just a Friend came out, Jay had

2106
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 4: like two shows in Madison Square Garden.

2107
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 1: We said, Jay z okay, yes, and.

2108
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 4: He wanted me to come out on the set and

2109
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 4: would meet me and all that and how whatever. And

2110
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 4: at the time I was I was dating this girl

2111
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 4: in Jersey and the night that they wanted me to

2112
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 4: come out, I had already had plans for her. So

2113
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 4: at the time I managed to hit me like, yo, look,

2114
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 4: you gotta put the s on Jay.

2115
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: When you come out. I was like, I can't.

2116
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 4: Is this massive square? It's massive Square? Just a Friend

2117
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 4: is out moving. I just came up promo to so

2118
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 4: you know, I met something, you know, the Minican Puerto

2119
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 4: Rican Vibes type ship Washington Heights Energy but.

2120
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 1: In Jersey though, Jersey just the himporter again yeah, help

2121
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 1: you out. Yeah, appreciate you. But like so, yeah, and

2122
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:23,879
Speaker 1: I passed up on that, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, bro, yeah.

2123
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 4: And it was it was you know, I don't know

2124
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 4: if Jay took that some type of way, you know,

2125
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 4: But I was young. I was young, young bro, having fun.

2126
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, and certain things, but like I don't know,

2127
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I never got an invite that might be it. I

2128
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: think that's the time. Yeah, that was one been a couple, bro, Yeah,

2129
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was wild when I was younger.

2130
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 5: Bro.

2131
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: I was just I didn't care as much I was

2132
01:51:58,360 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: youm bro, I was.

2133
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 4: I had a great I had I was having a

2134
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 4: good time. I was a young artist, you know. But

2135
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 4: I wasn't aware of my power at the time. I

2136
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 4: wasn't aware of who I was in the world. I

2137
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 4: didn't know, you know what I'm saying.

2138
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I made a lot of mistakes, you

2139
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

2140
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 4: And uh, sometimes those things do haunt you behind the

2141
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 4: scenes and you don't know, and you know that right

2142
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 4: of course, maybe it does.

2143
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 1: All I know is I learned from my mistakes. I

2144
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 1: keep it moving and I just I'm never stopping what

2145
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: I do you know, but you know living you learn, bro. Yes,

2146
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot. Yeah, no, no, no, bro, listen,

2147
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, look look at literally.

2148
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 3: This look look look respect for ja.

2149
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, look at look at that. That's that's that,

2150
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: that's that socking it.

2151
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 4: Wait, let me let me move over from this. Uh okay,

2152
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 4: I know how to deal with this later. I can

2153
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 4: deal with those thements all but let me uh you

2154
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 4: were trying to.

2155
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:57,560
Speaker 1: Sack you real quick. Let mean what you talking? What

2156
01:52:57,640 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 1: you got going on over there? I mean, I know

2157
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 1: you drink, how you deal with this, what you're doing

2158
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: for your liver? Whist told me what your living people,

2159
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. But Rizza said, there's only two alcohols

2160
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 1: that's uppers. Mm hmm.

2161
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 3: It's the killer and sockey. Everything else is down this.

2162
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 3: So since you said that, I kind of like makes

2163
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 3: sense to me. Not for sure, I've been like kind

2164
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 3: of like fuck it. Okay, yeah all right.

2165
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 1: Now, by the way, it's an upper. It's like, yeah,

2166
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: it's lighter, yeah, lighter, it's lighter. It's like it's still

2167
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 1: it's still good there. Yeah, if you drink enough.

2168
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 3: Of them, right, yeah, And these motherfuckers drinking my ship

2169
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 3: over there. They thought I ain't see them, but I

2170
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 3: chose you.

2171
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: I choose you. Okay, yes, yes, let's talk about that.

2172
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 1: This is Babyface introducing me to writing in a different way. Man,

2173
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 1: shout out to Babyface. Man, we work show.

2174
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 4: Baby Face is one of the most simple, Like he

2175
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 4: makes writing sound so simple, but he has over one

2176
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 4: hundred hits, number one hits.

2177
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm asking him questions like, Okay, what

2178
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 1: makes it hit?

2179
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 4: He's keeping it so simple and talking about just the

2180
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 4: simplicity of having a conversation. But then when you see

2181
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 4: him do it, it's like, I think, because of how

2182
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 4: I think, I make it more intricate the way I

2183
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 4: write sometimes, especially on this new album, but like now

2184
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 4: I'm trying to adopt this conversational aspect of writing, because

2185
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 4: writing music is of course, once you get a song written,

2186
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 4: you want to perfect the unit, dude, But it's as simple.

2187
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:50,959
Speaker 1: As having a conversation.

2188
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 4: The best records are you can write the lyrics down

2189
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 4: and read them and it just looks like a conversation.

2190
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: But in the studio, with life, you deal with your

2191
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 1: own thoughts. So you got to kind of like you

2192
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: gotta yourself in, like.

2193
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 4: You know, you got to open up your mind and

2194
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 4: open up a pathway where it's like, Okay, if I

2195
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 4: was just a normal person, how would I have this

2196
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 4: conversation but then still be genius at the same time.

2197
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 4: So I feel like being an artist. Babyface Master kind

2198
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 4: of like that space Bro. I work with him on

2199
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 4: I Shoose You played. He produced and helped produce it,

2200
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 4: play the guitar on it, and help write the record.

2201
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 4: We work the record in the studio together, Bro, and

2202
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 4: it was just it was one of the best essons

2203
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 4: I've ever had, Bro in terms of R and B.

2204
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 1: And just how easy he.

2205
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 4: Made the process, how funny it was, how easy the

2206
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 4: process was to actually creating a record like I Choose

2207
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 4: You and he just got He's got a gift that

2208
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know what.

2209
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 1: Neo reminds me of that in some ways.

2210
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 4: The way he approached writing music and be honest like

2211
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 4: he kind of is like our generation of what Babyface

2212
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 4: was doing. Always tell him that because this is super simple.

2213
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 4: He writes the records that are conversations, you know what

2214
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But baby Face, I think he was more

2215
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 4: romantic in his approach, which is why I choose.

2216
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 1: You feels like, you know, it feels like that that's

2217
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: a record. When I perform, I'm like roses out you

2218
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: know on that record?

2219
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. Yeah, it's one of them records. How

2220
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 4: about Closer?

2221
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 1: So you're telling me records that you like, you listen to?

2222
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 1: These are the records that you because I'm like a

2223
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about some of these records.

2224
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 11: This blow up Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, listen to that

2225
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:51,320
Speaker 11: play Let's get you right, ladies.

2226
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, that's right now. Closer

2227
01:56:58,040 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 1: shout outs to the home inter I also have.

2228
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 3: A record called Closer. Okay, yeah yeah yeah, but mars

2229
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 3: Is nine ninety six. I'm old, you know, I'm sure

2230
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 3: the still go.

2231
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, closest fire that that that records on the

2232
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 4: album I put out independently actually during the pandemic, bro,

2233
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 4: during the fucking pandemic. You know it was it was

2234
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, I gotta put it, I gotta put

2235
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 4: a project out. It was I was working on so

2236
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 4: much music, and I was sitting on a lot of music,

2237
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 4: and before the pandemic, I think it was right before

2238
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 4: me uh tron, I went in the studio to make

2239
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 4: it like a few records and I just made an

2240
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 4: EP out of it called Closer to Mars. So a

2241
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 4: couple of really incredible R and B records are on

2242
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:44,440
Speaker 4: the album. If you haven't heard it yet, go check

2243
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 4: it out. Close to Mars. Great R and B album,

2244
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 4: I mean definitely you know one of the bedroom records. Also,

2245
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 4: you can get lit to it is it is, you

2246
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 4: know Mars the record Mars. Mars is my name in Latin.

2247
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 4: So I wrote the record based on like I'm bringing

2248
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 4: you to Mars, like bringing you to my world like

2249
01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 4: type ship or whatever, but like it's it's it's a

2250
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 4: very good R and B album, bro, you know.

2251
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: And if Noriega bringing it up, you.

2252
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, let me let me ask you

2253
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 3: because the biggest thing for me, right I did I

2254
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 3: went through the same transition.

2255
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 1: Right.

2256
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 3: I was on a major label. I love the major labels.

2257
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 3: It was kind of coming down. I went I went independent,

2258
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Everyone thought of the glits

2259
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 3: and glady, Oh, you know, independent, I'm gonna get all

2260
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 3: my money. But you don't understand is.

2261
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 4: You have to work, Nigga. I waste so much money

2262
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 4: on my first independent album of my own money. I

2263
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 4: went independent when it was just starting to get popping.

2264
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 1: Like the popular you had to be like the example,

2265
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 1: shout out the Gazi man O Nimam Ghazi.

2266
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 4: Nina was Tina wasn't there at the time, Da how

2267
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 4: that's how yeah early, you know what I'm saying.

2268
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: But like, man, it was one of the great look

2269
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: I look at life like this, bro, Like I'm really

2270
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 1: like that wasn't a waste to me. Me spending. I

2271
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 1: spent four hundred thousand dollars on the album and it

2272
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 1: was distribution though they did.

2273
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you out of my motion through money was

2274
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 4: like four hundred thousand plus on it. Because I was

2275
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 4: still doing ship, I was doing as an artist, Like

2276
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 4: I was still going to the fucking big studios. I

2277
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 4: was still going to you know what I'm saying, a

2278
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 4: paramount still.

2279
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 1: No.

2280
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 4: I was living in La so I was going home

2281
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 4: and going toess Okay the night of the studio twenty

2282
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 4: five hundred dollars. I didn't yet understand that independ I

2283
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,560
Speaker 4: didn't understand how to play monopoly with it yet.

2284
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 1: So for me, it was kind of like chess because

2285
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 1: I was like that moment was.

2286
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,840
Speaker 4: For me to learn the business of being a boss,

2287
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 4: being your own boss, and so now I understand how

2288
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 4: to play with numbers in a completely different way. So

2289
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 4: it wasn't a loss for me coming out of my

2290
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 4: pocket doing this and this and that, and you know

2291
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

2292
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:57,520
Speaker 1: Recouping that. So I have to say, you did you

2293
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,320
Speaker 1: recoup that? Yeah? Pretty much? Okay, okay too. Took some time.

2294
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 1: You have to look at yourself like what am I doing?

2295
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 4: Like you said, go back to what you say. You

2296
02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 4: thinking you independent? You about to get Nah, that's not

2297
02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 4: how it works.

2298
02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 5: Bro.

2299
02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 4: Now you got you gotta you gotta plant the seeds

2300
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 4: before you see it grow, you know what I'm saying.

2301
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 1: And sometimes those seeds take time.

2302
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, you gotta move as

2303
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 4: if you gotta envision it already there. Yeah, you gotta move.

2304
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 4: And you still got money to spend, by the way

2305
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 4: and make you know. But luckily, again, this is the

2306
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 4: beauty of having a catalog because I can still go

2307
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 4: and do shows and make more money to do partnerships

2308
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 4: and then be smart about how I do.

2309
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:37,120
Speaker 1: You know, that's the blessing in it.

2310
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 3: But with total artists, total artists who go through who's

2311
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 3: about to go through with me, and you just went through.

2312
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 1: Right, you had a choice.

2313
02:00:44,680 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not going to tell you what I'm gonna

2314
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 3: do because I want to hear yours. But if you

2315
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 3: had a choice, I just pivot pivota moment. But you

2316
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 3: said I could either stay independent and I could go

2317
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 3: with such a such or.

2318
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 4: Do it yeah, or I can stay with a major.

2319
02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:07,080
Speaker 4: We say stay all right, you're talking about a new artist.

2320
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 4: You're talking about It's different, bro, No, I'm talking about

2321
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:15,120
Speaker 4: season artists. I'm talking about Okay, okay, Like what would

2322
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 4: you have done? Like like now, knowing your experience.

2323
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: All right, this is this is this is what I

2324
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 1: would say outside of your your artistry, outside of you

2325
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 1: being an artist?

2326
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:29,120
Speaker 4: Right, what else are you doing outside of music? Are

2327
02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:31,640
Speaker 4: you do you have a good team? Do you got

2328
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 4: good credit? You have good you know what I mean?

2329
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 1: Business?

2330
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 5: Like?

2331
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 1: Are you investing in different?

2332
02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 7: Like?

2333
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Because I am doing that?

2334
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:41,560
Speaker 4: So you scamming whatever whatever you're doing to make your money?

2335
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 4: Like do you have money to play with outside of that?

2336
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:47,280
Speaker 4: To whereas though you could say, like and you know,

2337
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 4: I bet I'm going to use the machine. I'm not

2338
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:53,480
Speaker 4: gonna take a lot of money. But I'm definitely gonna

2339
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:55,360
Speaker 4: use a machine because I.

2340
02:01:55,400 --> 02:02:00,520
Speaker 1: Got a millie over here to live off in another.

2341
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 4: Five hundred whatever your number is, to put into a project. Right,

2342
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 4: if you have that, I would say, don't take a

2343
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 4: lot of money from the label, use the services.

2344
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Take just take enough. I don't even know if I'm

2345
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:19,360
Speaker 1: saying too much. Take enough to where though, It's like, until.

2346
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 4: We get to the point where we one hundred percent

2347
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 4: don't need the politics anymore, because we people say, oh,

2348
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:26,840
Speaker 4: you won't need it's the politics are still there.

2349
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay, we ain't there yet. We might be there soon,

2350
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 1: but we ain't there yet. So let me ask you.

2351
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 3: We all know this rumor, right that it takes like

2352
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand to one hundred and seventy five thousand

2353
02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 3: to make a record, a hit record.

2354
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's true.

2355
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 6: No more.

2356
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 1: I think it just depends on your relationship. I'm asking, yo,

2357
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm asking because back then, that's how it was. Back then,

2358
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 1: it was cutting drive.

2359
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 3: We know, yeah, yeah, crazy change though, dirty station, crazy

2360
02:02:57,440 --> 02:02:58,000
Speaker 3: dirty station?

2361
02:02:58,360 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 1: Right now, for sure, I.

2362
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:01,440
Speaker 3: Don't know how you pay that one fifty you automatically

2363
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 3: added to the Spotify playlist or you automatically add added

2364
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:05,520
Speaker 3: to the action.

2365
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 1: It's about relationships, bro, Yeah, because money, right, But like

2366
02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 1: I think I think it's more about relationships and like,

2367
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, the bread, but the relationships too, bro.

2368
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 3: You know because right now, what do you think is

2369
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 3: more about Is it more about the playlist or is

2370
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 3: it more about the actual radio?

2371
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 4: I think it's about your relationship with your fans mixed

2372
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:29,280
Speaker 4: with everything else, how you perceived, how hard you work with,

2373
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:33,920
Speaker 4: how people will receive your music, how people feel about

2374
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 4: you overall, like their relationship with your music. You know

2375
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Because some artists, I'm like, I'm like, damn,

2376
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 4: Like I can't. I don't know what artists like. Don't

2377
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 4: ask me.

2378
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm a little lit right now.

2379
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 4: But like some artists they have the music, but they

2380
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:50,600
Speaker 4: don't have the relationships. And then you go, you know,

2381
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 4: they can sell some of the artists can sell tickets.

2382
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 4: Some artists can strain records. It depends on your relationship

2383
02:03:57,560 --> 02:04:00,240
Speaker 4: with overall, with the whole situation. It depends on how

2384
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 4: you bring yourself. It depends on what you've been putting

2385
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 4: energy into. Some artists are great touring artists, but they

2386
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 4: don't necessarily stream. Well, some artists stream great, but then

2387
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 4: they can't go on tour and sell tickets. So you

2388
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 4: got to create your reality and this shit, you know

2389
02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:16,400
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like right now we have that chance

2390
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 4: to do that.

2391
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: Is radio still necessary.

2392
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:26,960
Speaker 4: If you can afford it, If you can afford it, yeah,

2393
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:30,080
Speaker 4: just for the Yeah, if you can afford the Just

2394
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,480
Speaker 4: what are you talking about, like mainstream, you're talking about

2395
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:34,160
Speaker 4: top forty?

2396
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 1: What you talking about?

2397
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 3: I'm talking about period because like like like I guess

2398
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:39,760
Speaker 3: today I went to New York City?

2399
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 1: Was it yesterday? Day before? Yes?

2400
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 4: I think the expectations for major artists is to break

2401
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:49,880
Speaker 4: records at top forty and be on radio, and artists

2402
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,880
Speaker 4: major artists like artists that are like artists like myself

2403
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 4: or somebody that's been in the game for a long time.

2404
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, if you don't have a record at

2405
02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:59,360
Speaker 4: top forty, then you have him. But for me, I

2406
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 4: identify success with the overall your personal life and your

2407
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:04,560
Speaker 4: business life and your artist's life.

2408
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 1: It's not even about what's going on on the internet

2409
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 1: no more.

2410
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:09,400
Speaker 6: Bro.

2411
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 4: I can promise you that I haven't had a hit

2412
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 4: and I stopped counting the years, but I've had motion

2413
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 4: and the way that I think, in the way that

2414
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 4: I move outside of music, and my relationships and the

2415
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 4: things that I invest in, certain things like I don't

2416
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:30,880
Speaker 4: necessary I love music. I do it because I love it,

2417
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:32,760
Speaker 4: and I do it because it's quick. It's like, to me,

2418
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 4: music is equivalent of street money. I can I can

2419
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 4: leave here tomorrow and go make eighty thousand, one hundred

2420
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:39,720
Speaker 4: thousand of the show.

2421
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:45,000
Speaker 1: But do you feel me? But I don't have to

2422
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 1: hit but then the audience I wish, But I'm so

2423
02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:51,000
Speaker 1: grateful for it. Thank you guys, Thank you to the fans.

2424
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

2425
02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying that to say that, but I'm saying

2426
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 4: that to say, bro, I've evolved as a being. There's

2427
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 4: so many other things that I'm meant to outside of

2428
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 4: music business wise that I don't have.

2429
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:03,720
Speaker 1: But I make the time for it.

2430
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:05,800
Speaker 4: But it's harder because as the artist, you gotta go

2431
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:07,400
Speaker 4: to the show, you got to be present, you got

2432
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 4: to be at the production meetias. You gotta be And

2433
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 4: I wish that's something like I'm like, Damn, I wish

2434
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 4: I had two days of spare sock and folks on

2435
02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:16,600
Speaker 4: this other business venture. That's about to make me twenty million,

2436
02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 4: that's what and so not for sure one thousand percent.

2437
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:23,720
Speaker 4: And then so it's like it's blessed to have both sides.

2438
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:26,520
Speaker 4: But where I'm at missing now, it's a different place.

2439
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:29,720
Speaker 4: So it's a blessing to have the catalog, you know

2440
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and to have the work ethic, and

2441
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 4: to also have the self awareness that protects your energy.

2442
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 4: So you got the energy to not sleep for you know,

2443
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 4: a whole night and still get up and come to

2444
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 4: drink tramps from that day. This last three days been crazy.

2445
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 4: I had shows all weekend for juern Tea, Like I

2446
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 4: had shows all weekend, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, bro,

2447
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:52,800
Speaker 4: it's all of it matters. All of it matters. It's

2448
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 4: just your life at this point in time in life.

2449
02:06:56,240 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 4: It ain't about just being an artist. It's about whole

2450
02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 4: setup of life. It's monopoly. It's chess, is like.

2451
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: How you're setting your whole life up. About the smoking mirrors,

2452
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 1: real life ship.

2453
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:09,840
Speaker 3: Now I can truly see that that you're a person,

2454
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 3: whether in the beginning or the end or wherever it is,

2455
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 3: that you learn how to play the game, and you

2456
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 3: didn't let the game play you, my brother.

2457
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 1: Man, that's the solid serious man. Listen, you don't understand.

2458
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 1: I've been in this game twenty seven years. I've seen

2459
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:34,840
Speaker 1: like that. Huh. It's called heavily Heavenly Sockey. I don't

2460
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:39,040
Speaker 1: work for them, not yet. I'm throwing my hat in

2461
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 1: the ring. It's nice. Yeah, it's like it's like a

2462
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 1: little it's like a gobby in like a sweet like sweet.

2463
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Cool's cool, yeah man, But that's the definitely,

2464
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 4: can't let the game play you, nah, because you know why,

2465
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:55,640
Speaker 4: I have a son. One day I'm teaching them Monopoly

2466
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:58,080
Speaker 4: and Chess off top, putting books in front of them

2467
02:07:58,120 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 4: all top.

2468
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: You know you got a daughter though, right, No, I

2469
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:03,840
Speaker 1: got no kids yet. Okay, okay, since you say that

2470
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 1: in the Bropast club, I thought she was shooting the club. Great, Yeah,

2471
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 1: it's great. People been saying have the Fathers Day to

2472
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: me too. Maybe it's something bal I don't know. You

2473
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 1: get you an Oh my god, he didn't have it

2474
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:25,280
Speaker 1: in twenty two years. This is this thing.

2475
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,760
Speaker 3: Were go, hey, mister Lee, don't laugh too for our

2476
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:34,840
Speaker 3: laugh to you. He's fifty nine.

2477
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 1: This is different. This is different. Shout out to all

2478
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 1: the moms and dad's out there, you know, handling the

2479
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 1: responsibility perspecting these kids. Man, kids, kids is the most

2480
02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 1: vulnerable that they're some of the most vulnerable in our societies,

2481
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, kids because the world is like you know,

2482
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:53,880
Speaker 1: they don't even understand what's happening in the world all way.

2483
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That we're on the front

2484
02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:59,280
Speaker 1: line of standing up or creating the world that they're

2485
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 1: about to exist. You know. So they're to me, the

2486
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 1: most vulnerable in a lot of ways, man, you know,

2487
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 1: so shout out to shout out to the kids, man,

2488
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:09,560
Speaker 1: and all the souls that's choosing the incarnate in this world.

2489
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:12,560
Speaker 1: And we know you like, do we want times? You

2490
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

2491
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:17,560
Speaker 4: This was like, no, I ain't gonna lie. You got

2492
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 4: your R and B ship going on right now? What

2493
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:23,160
Speaker 4: this was this a photo you did for this?

2494
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 1: You're about to do it type of he's bringing the

2495
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,480
Speaker 1: wrong boxes. I don't know why. That's what I was

2496
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 1: screaming early Okay, photo shoot. You know what I'm saying,

2497
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:36,320
Speaker 1: I get it, bro may hate you know what I'm saying.

2498
02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:41,240
Speaker 1: I got done done? Yeah, man, So what's the next? Yeah? Mario.

2499
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:43,680
Speaker 1: What's Mario doing next? Musically?

2500
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 4: Experiments and having fun with it, bro, you know, you

2501
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 4: gotta have fun with it right now. I got some

2502
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 4: music coming out, singles coming out, you know, into my

2503
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 4: next project. I got album out called Glad You Came Up,

2504
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 4: put out in December. But you're just having fun with it, bro,

2505
02:09:58,080 --> 02:10:01,440
Speaker 4: you know, really experimenting and working with people that I'm

2506
02:10:01,480 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 4: having fun with. Acting too, Yeah, no, I got to, Yeah,

2507
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:06,320
Speaker 4: for sure, I got. I got a few things in

2508
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:11,280
Speaker 4: the acting field coming out New Citizen Productions. So I

2509
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 4: created a production company about two years ago, signed a

2510
02:10:15,240 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 4: few writers, and really just developing behind the scenes some

2511
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 4: really great projects right now that I'm going to be

2512
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:26,480
Speaker 4: pitching and finding the right homess form. What's over the

2513
02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:28,960
Speaker 4: next couple of years, You're going to see me step

2514
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:31,560
Speaker 4: into that back you know, acting behind the candle.

2515
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 1: Not just the acting.

2516
02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:34,280
Speaker 4: I've done the acting, but just like do you know,

2517
02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:37,120
Speaker 4: intellectual property wise, like having my own production, having my

2518
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:40,320
Speaker 4: own screenplays, the ideas that I come up with with

2519
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:45,200
Speaker 4: my team and we build you know, because it's it's yeah,

2520
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:49,080
Speaker 4: it's it's my mind is its constantly moving in that direction.

2521
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:55,160
Speaker 4: I got investments that have made like certain experiences that

2522
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm creating. Right now, I can't talk with it. I

2523
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,960
Speaker 4: can't say the ideas, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, Bros,

2524
02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:03,160
Speaker 4: this next couple of years, you'll probably gonna You're gonna

2525
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:05,640
Speaker 4: see like the entrepreneurs side of what I've been working

2526
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:08,640
Speaker 4: on for the last three four years. And it's it's

2527
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:10,760
Speaker 4: gonna be inspiring, bro, you know, because I think it's

2528
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 4: things that people wouldn't expect.

2529
02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:17,080
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you got a role for you want my

2530
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:24,400
Speaker 1: acting coach? Coaches don't make enough money, but yeah, bro,

2531
02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 1: that bro.

2532
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:27,720
Speaker 4: And you know, of course like taking the music and

2533
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:30,160
Speaker 4: the touring to the next level, you know, really tapping

2534
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:32,320
Speaker 4: back into the performance bag.

2535
02:11:34,160 --> 02:11:37,280
Speaker 1: And loving the love the performances. And yeah, bro, just

2536
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:40,960
Speaker 1: stepping back again, rewinding the times, if you will, rewinding

2537
02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 1: the times hypothetically speaking, right, Yeah, I said, man, Mario, good.

2538
02:11:48,080 --> 02:11:53,800
Speaker 3: Join one group, I guess, joint one group, joint one

2539
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:54,680
Speaker 3: group for one week?

2540
02:11:56,800 --> 02:11:57,720
Speaker 1: What group you join?

2541
02:11:57,800 --> 02:12:08,320
Speaker 3: Its great question? Uh, let's say the five Heartbeats don't exist.

2542
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:16,440
Speaker 4: We gotta be they gotta exist. Real group right now?

2543
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:18,840
Speaker 4: Liggas don't got groups no more? What groups exist?

2544
02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:23,120
Speaker 1: Right now? All right? Just maybe you artists. That's a lot.

2545
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 1: All I'm gonna go with.

2546
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 4: Groops. Damn, that's kind of crazy, all right, I'm gonna say, uh,

2547
02:12:38,680 --> 02:12:39,640
Speaker 4: it's between.

2548
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:46,839
Speaker 1: Jagged Edge mm hmm, I say Jagged Edge, bro Jagged

2549
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 1: Edge and who else?

2550
02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 9: Who's the other choice? And T G T that's Tank. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2551
02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:57,960
Speaker 9: I can see that.

2552
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 1: Not even on some like I just I feel like

2553
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 1: I could bring something different to the group. Really, you

2554
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:04,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh, you know what I mean,

2555
02:13:05,240 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 1: fighting and all that is great. I know all three

2556
02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:14,880
Speaker 1: of them. You know a lot of d m V ship,

2557
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 1: a couple of West Coast Yeah, okay, cool, jagged As though, Yeah,

2558
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,040
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be some ship for sure.

2559
02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie.

2560
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:27,120
Speaker 3: I will pick new Edition, Okay, I would pick the

2561
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:31,360
Speaker 3: eighties new edition put on my Yeah, for sure, I'm

2562
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:31,640
Speaker 3: gonna be.

2563
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:33,360
Speaker 1: Ready for my propogative. Okay.

2564
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 3: Like if Bobby asks is I'm okay, you got you

2565
02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:41,320
Speaker 3: got you want to stop drinking? You gotta stamping it like.

2566
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:44,480
Speaker 1: I forgot that.

2567
02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 4: Taking back sounded jagged just on some you know some

2568
02:13:55,280 --> 02:13:57,520
Speaker 4: jagged as just on some you know crooning.

2569
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 1: They made classic music records that will play that every wedding.

2570
02:14:02,440 --> 02:14:05,920
Speaker 1: They still got Yeah, I drink good all night. They

2571
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:10,240
Speaker 1: could drink. What was that versus experience like with you

2572
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 1: and Marion?

2573
02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:14,320
Speaker 5: For me?

2574
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:15,000
Speaker 1: It was great.

2575
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:19,040
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a great experience for me for sure. You

2576
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:21,880
Speaker 4: know that she was crazy, bro, it was dope. I mean,

2577
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:23,680
Speaker 4: I feel like going into it, I already knew. It

2578
02:14:23,800 --> 02:14:26,040
Speaker 4: was like you being on the block with the homies

2579
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 4: talking sh and playing good music and singing. It's like karaoke,

2580
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:31,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, but you're singing your own music,

2581
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 4: you know. And I don't know what aspect of it

2582
02:14:36,080 --> 02:14:37,560
Speaker 4: this is. There was a lot going on.

2583
02:14:38,360 --> 02:14:40,640
Speaker 5: It's a pandemic, so of course there's a lot going on.

2584
02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:44,880
Speaker 5: People are scared, and then here comes versus entertainment. Everybody's

2585
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:45,240
Speaker 5: at home.

2586
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:47,200
Speaker 4: That's crazy, you say a lot of people don't bring

2587
02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:48,960
Speaker 4: up the pandemic part, but it definitely was.

2588
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:53,800
Speaker 1: That's the big part. Yeah, together, it was together. Did

2589
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 1: you see it? I did see it, but I don't

2590
02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:01,200
Speaker 1: remember it. That's when that's crazy. You were right, Yeah

2591
02:15:02,640 --> 02:15:02,840
Speaker 1: it was.

2592
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:03,440
Speaker 5: It was.

2593
02:15:03,560 --> 02:15:06,560
Speaker 1: It was yea, yeah, it was. It was truth, me

2594
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:14,400
Speaker 1: against Mario and his whole army. I had a whole

2595
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:15,040
Speaker 1: army with him.

2596
02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:17,400
Speaker 4: It was crazy, bro, I didn't even know he had

2597
02:15:17,440 --> 02:15:24,960
Speaker 4: allies like that. I know, at the end of the day,

2598
02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:26,960
Speaker 4: it's all, you know, it's all for the love of music.

2599
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:29,760
Speaker 4: But I definitely didn't know he had allies, you know,

2600
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:32,080
Speaker 4: so I had to like it was like I had

2601
02:15:32,120 --> 02:15:36,840
Speaker 4: to like take him all down one by one, sniper,

2602
02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:40,840
Speaker 4: like my god, like a good snipper. But yeah, it

2603
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:42,440
Speaker 4: was cool, man, it was good. It was a good

2604
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:44,840
Speaker 4: knight for R and B. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,

2605
02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:48,920
Speaker 4: arm beat.

2606
02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:54,760
Speaker 3: It was at one point, you know, a person you

2607
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:58,000
Speaker 3: know what what what he kept saying, you know, I'm

2608
02:15:58,040 --> 02:15:59,640
Speaker 3: gonna make R and B alive again.

2609
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to make R and B alive again. Where

2610
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:05,640
Speaker 1: else was he saying, huh what else what they're saying,

2611
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:08,800
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying, I'm R and ME back. It

2612
02:16:08,920 --> 02:16:13,440
Speaker 1: was basically, uh, you know the guy, yeah, lovey, it's okay.

2613
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:16,480
Speaker 3: All right, But did you ever ever heard that statement

2614
02:16:16,560 --> 02:16:18,960
Speaker 3: like where where people felt like, you know, at one point,

2615
02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:22,320
Speaker 3: even now, I said that our forefront of one of

2616
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:26,120
Speaker 3: our forefathers, said hip hop is dead. Yeah, and you

2617
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:28,640
Speaker 3: know people have to you know, refute him, and you know,

2618
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 3: he embraced it. And he was like, Okay, well maybe

2619
02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:34,160
Speaker 3: hip hop isn't dead. Maybe he lives in the South,

2620
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:36,280
Speaker 3: or maybe he lives in London or whatever whatever is

2621
02:16:36,400 --> 02:16:38,879
Speaker 3: ever a time where people were saying that, like, you.

2622
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:41,360
Speaker 1: Know, R and B is dead and you personal. I

2623
02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:43,760
Speaker 1: never took a person of Okay, but you heard them

2624
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:44,280
Speaker 1: for sure.

2625
02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:46,440
Speaker 4: Okay, I only took a person when they started trying

2626
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:47,160
Speaker 4: to paintings less.

2627
02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:50,160
Speaker 1: That's what it was like. Damn, Like okay, now I'm

2628
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:53,080
Speaker 1: taking the person I was personal, you know, but like, nah,

2629
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:57,120
Speaker 1: I think that this is what we do. You know,

2630
02:16:57,400 --> 02:17:03,080
Speaker 1: we are we We are innovators, bro. We innovated hip hop.

2631
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:06,160
Speaker 1: R and B. We're the innovators of this culture.

2632
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:06,320
Speaker 6: Bro.

2633
02:17:06,520 --> 02:17:10,640
Speaker 4: So it is our conversation. But it's almost like us

2634
02:17:11,080 --> 02:17:12,600
Speaker 4: what we're doing on the internet. But if we were

2635
02:17:12,600 --> 02:17:15,320
Speaker 4: all sitting at that conference talking about it, like Nigga.

2636
02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:17,320
Speaker 1: Army is saying, all right, when you should have did Nigga,

2637
02:17:17,360 --> 02:17:19,600
Speaker 1: you're the one that you need to do what you

2638
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:21,879
Speaker 1: need to do. It's just like we.

2639
02:17:23,720 --> 02:17:26,480
Speaker 4: Are having this conversation out in the world, you know,

2640
02:17:26,720 --> 02:17:28,280
Speaker 4: for the world to get involved in it, you know

2641
02:17:28,320 --> 02:17:30,280
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So, yeah, I'm glad that they have,

2642
02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:32,840
Speaker 4: because it's a reason why I feel like, you know,

2643
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:34,720
Speaker 4: it's still here, is because we continue to have the

2644
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:38,240
Speaker 4: conversation and we continue to push the culture forward by

2645
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:42,160
Speaker 4: having a conversation. But also I think that the problem,

2646
02:17:42,440 --> 02:17:45,800
Speaker 4: I feel like it's the people that have control over

2647
02:17:45,879 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 4: what people experience. For example, love BT, thank you, we

2648
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:53,720
Speaker 4: love you all the year, but sometimes the conglomerates of

2649
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:57,119
Speaker 4: whoever's in control don't always make the best decisions as

2650
02:17:57,240 --> 02:17:59,280
Speaker 4: to how it's experienced.

2651
02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:04,080
Speaker 1: Right. So I went to the BT Awards this past one. Yeah, okay, and.

2652
02:18:06,760 --> 02:18:08,760
Speaker 4: You know, I was just coming back from the UK

2653
02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:11,800
Speaker 4: and Europe on my tour for Glad You Came album.

2654
02:18:13,440 --> 02:18:16,600
Speaker 1: They hit us about, you know, doing the BT Experience. Yeah,

2655
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:18,920
Speaker 1: glad you came for the album. That's that's out. I

2656
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:23,680
Speaker 1: took that wrong. We're bad, You're good, but.

2657
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:29,720
Speaker 4: It's glad you came. Yeah, for sure, we are though,

2658
02:18:29,959 --> 02:18:31,360
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We glad you came for

2659
02:18:31,440 --> 02:18:31,959
Speaker 4: the experience.

2660
02:18:33,720 --> 02:18:37,040
Speaker 1: But it's like they hit us to do the BT Experience.

2661
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:40,440
Speaker 4: I'm so happy, like grateful, But when I didn't even

2662
02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:42,199
Speaker 4: know they were doing a one on six in park situation.

2663
02:18:42,840 --> 02:18:45,960
Speaker 4: But the timeline of that everybody was on that like

2664
02:18:46,040 --> 02:18:48,000
Speaker 4: it was no reason why I should put a pump

2665
02:18:48,120 --> 02:18:50,720
Speaker 4: on the Red Carpet show, because that was the moment

2666
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:53,160
Speaker 4: where you should have had a Mario performance in the

2667
02:18:53,280 --> 02:18:56,520
Speaker 4: actual show, you know what I'm saying, Like that wasn't

2668
02:18:56,720 --> 02:18:59,800
Speaker 4: There was some good, decent performance, but as far as

2669
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:02,360
Speaker 4: what I do and what I represented during that time,

2670
02:19:02,760 --> 02:19:03,960
Speaker 4: it was missing from that set.

2671
02:19:05,120 --> 02:19:08,360
Speaker 1: And I feel like those are the moments where you know,

2672
02:19:09,160 --> 02:19:11,560
Speaker 1: we got to represent R and B and represent our

2673
02:19:11,600 --> 02:19:13,720
Speaker 1: culture the right way. We don't do it all the time.

2674
02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:16,520
Speaker 4: And this is not even me, Like I speak about

2675
02:19:16,520 --> 02:19:18,560
Speaker 4: myself a third person all the time. Bro, I promise

2676
02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:21,039
Speaker 4: you that I really I'm so happy in my life,

2677
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:24,840
Speaker 4: like I'm really blessing and I enjoy my life outside

2678
02:19:24,879 --> 02:19:27,760
Speaker 4: of just being an artist. But when it comes to

2679
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:30,879
Speaker 4: respecting like what I've done as an artist, I feel

2680
02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:34,160
Speaker 4: like sometimes it's not respected in certain in those types

2681
02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:37,400
Speaker 4: of cases, right, And I feel like it would have

2682
02:19:37,560 --> 02:19:40,160
Speaker 4: helped R and B because I am a true R

2683
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:42,800
Speaker 4: and B artist, Like I'm true to the culture, true

2684
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:44,360
Speaker 4: to the game of RB, true to the to the

2685
02:19:45,120 --> 02:19:46,400
Speaker 4: essence of R and B, and.

2686
02:19:46,480 --> 02:19:47,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't represented that night.

2687
02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:52,039
Speaker 4: I feel like in terms of male artists from that era,

2688
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:55,000
Speaker 4: it was missing from the stage that night, on the

2689
02:19:55,080 --> 02:19:58,879
Speaker 4: main stage outside of hold On, even though Jamie Jamie

2690
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:01,480
Speaker 4: Fox is the first of all, Jamie Fox is the goat,

2691
02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:04,560
Speaker 4: like you can't even but in that era, I mean,

2692
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:06,480
Speaker 4: like of my you know what I'm saying, the artist

2693
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:07,320
Speaker 4: that was out that time.

2694
02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think.

2695
02:20:11,680 --> 02:20:14,400
Speaker 3: One of the things I did see this was one

2696
02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:16,600
Speaker 3: of the best bets put together for sure.

2697
02:20:16,760 --> 02:20:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, one thousand, one thousand percent. It was an incredible show. Yeah,

2698
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:29,360
Speaker 1: one thousand percent, big up, constant, juice Ski Bro, big

2699
02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:29,720
Speaker 1: up to.

2700
02:20:29,800 --> 02:20:33,120
Speaker 4: The whole new regime of young artists, like it was.

2701
02:20:34,520 --> 02:20:35,800
Speaker 4: Can you trying to make it seem like I'm down

2702
02:20:35,800 --> 02:20:36,520
Speaker 4: the whole show.

2703
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:37,760
Speaker 3: I did not know.

2704
02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:41,119
Speaker 1: I see you look like face because you know, look

2705
02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:41,560
Speaker 1: at your face?

2706
02:20:44,320 --> 02:20:48,440
Speaker 3: Hold On, be honest, I didn't see the whole Awards show.

2707
02:20:48,680 --> 02:20:52,560
Speaker 3: I've seen clips of it, so I'm bro show. Yeah,

2708
02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:54,240
Speaker 3: pointing out the clip I saw, Bro, I.

2709
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:57,240
Speaker 4: Don't I never go outside. I went to these BT wards.

2710
02:20:57,240 --> 02:20:59,400
Speaker 4: I knew how incredible it was going to be. I'm

2711
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:01,440
Speaker 4: specific talking about should be talking about R and B

2712
02:21:01,560 --> 02:21:19,920
Speaker 4: bro specifically. Yeah, I understand, no, Bro, Yeah, it was

2713
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:22,960
Speaker 4: an incredible show, bro, Like I was inspired, like super

2714
02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:24,680
Speaker 4: inspired by it, super inspired.

2715
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:29,600
Speaker 3: So everyone, you know, they have their ten year career

2716
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:32,800
Speaker 3: and the new thing is now to venture out and

2717
02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:33,800
Speaker 3: do something different.

2718
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:35,720
Speaker 1: We know you do after acting. You know, we got

2719
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:38,720
Speaker 1: the production. But is there anything that you think of

2720
02:21:38,840 --> 02:21:44,880
Speaker 1: a podcast? Anything that I think stream like that? I

2721
02:21:44,920 --> 02:21:47,520
Speaker 1: would do that? You for yourself? Would you do a park?

2722
02:21:48,600 --> 02:21:52,600
Speaker 1: Not yet? Okay, because AI shifting.

2723
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:55,840
Speaker 4: Everything is shifting, money shifting, the way niggas is paid shifting.

2724
02:21:55,959 --> 02:21:59,040
Speaker 4: I'm a businessman, so I'm thinking five years ahead. I'm like, Okay,

2725
02:21:59,360 --> 02:22:01,080
Speaker 4: what podcasts gonna look like in five years?

2726
02:22:02,440 --> 02:22:04,680
Speaker 1: Take home. I'm not saying they would take over, possibly

2727
02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:06,560
Speaker 1: in some ways, but like I'm just saying, like the

2728
02:22:06,720 --> 02:22:10,040
Speaker 1: structure of it business wise, if I don't show up

2729
02:22:10,320 --> 02:22:12,480
Speaker 1: another no, no, no, I'm not saying that.

2730
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:14,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying that the way you get I'm saying that

2731
02:22:14,680 --> 02:22:16,720
Speaker 4: the way you getting paid right now may change in the.

2732
02:22:16,760 --> 02:22:20,760
Speaker 1: Next three we get mustered together. I know, Bro, I'm

2733
02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:23,600
Speaker 1: not saying you had I know, I see you. I

2734
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:25,880
Speaker 1: heard the conversation was having outside who was coming in.

2735
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:27,040
Speaker 1: I was talking about money.

2736
02:22:27,080 --> 02:22:30,039
Speaker 4: I respect it, but I'm saying that, Like, I'm like, Okay,

2737
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:32,160
Speaker 4: if I'm gonna do it, I want to do it

2738
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:35,440
Speaker 4: at the highest level possible for me. And then I'm like, okay, well,

2739
02:22:35,480 --> 02:22:37,880
Speaker 4: other things can I integrate from the other relationships that

2740
02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:40,400
Speaker 4: I have. I'm just thinking, you know, yeah, you put

2741
02:22:40,440 --> 02:22:47,000
Speaker 4: it together, time illusion experiences. How do I calculate my

2742
02:22:47,080 --> 02:22:49,320
Speaker 4: time with experiences? How do I want to experience things?

2743
02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:52,119
Speaker 4: Like I just think about, like, okay, I really cann

2744
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:55,960
Speaker 4: influence the experience I want to have over the next Like,

2745
02:22:56,080 --> 02:22:58,680
Speaker 4: so I'm like, I'll be trying to make decisions based

2746
02:22:58,720 --> 02:23:00,119
Speaker 4: on what I know it's about to happen.

2747
02:23:00,000 --> 02:23:00,520
Speaker 1: In the future.

2748
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:02,720
Speaker 4: So like, Okay, I'm gonna do a podcast right now,

2749
02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:05,960
Speaker 4: but like maybe the shifts and changing may happen in

2750
02:23:05,959 --> 02:23:08,360
Speaker 4: the next year that make niggas get pay more. Right,

2751
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:11,080
Speaker 4: maybe I should wait a year and just to vet

2752
02:23:11,120 --> 02:23:13,640
Speaker 4: the content. But you know what I'm saying, I don't know.

2753
02:23:14,080 --> 02:23:16,119
Speaker 4: I just be thinking, like I'll give you one advice

2754
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:19,320
Speaker 4: about the part, bro. That's kind of like it cuts

2755
02:23:19,360 --> 02:23:19,879
Speaker 4: through the thing.

2756
02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:23,040
Speaker 3: Like I wish when I was making records that I

2757
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:26,400
Speaker 3: had these algorithm numbers, because what I mean by that is,

2758
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:29,400
Speaker 3: you know how you you go on tour, right, and

2759
02:23:29,480 --> 02:23:31,440
Speaker 3: you're going to all and you go to these miscellaneous states.

2760
02:23:31,480 --> 02:23:33,240
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say a state because I want

2761
02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:34,560
Speaker 3: to go back to there because if they pay me,

2762
02:23:34,600 --> 02:23:37,720
Speaker 3: I'm going back. But you go to these miscellaneous states

2763
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:41,360
Speaker 3: that don't really matter in your algorithms of selling albums.

2764
02:23:41,560 --> 02:23:41,680
Speaker 8: Right.

2765
02:23:42,040 --> 02:23:45,119
Speaker 3: So what happens is they'll put you, like the record

2766
02:23:45,160 --> 02:23:47,840
Speaker 3: label will put you on this whole toll and it'll

2767
02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:49,840
Speaker 3: be a thirty two cities tall because the reason why

2768
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:52,920
Speaker 3: they put you in a thirty two city tour is

2769
02:23:52,959 --> 02:23:54,560
Speaker 3: because they have to eat up their budget.

2770
02:23:54,800 --> 02:23:57,959
Speaker 1: But you're in places that it doesn't matter. But right

2771
02:23:58,040 --> 02:24:02,680
Speaker 1: now I can see exactly actually what thirty two states that, right,

2772
02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:04,440
Speaker 1: and they might not be the states that people think.

2773
02:24:04,520 --> 02:24:06,760
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be the states. And guess what, We're okay,

2774
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:09,560
Speaker 3: we're going to Little Rock, Arkansas. We're okay with going

2775
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:12,760
Speaker 3: to fucking s outskirts of Delaware. We're okay to go

2776
02:24:12,879 --> 02:24:15,200
Speaker 3: on the Sacramento Sure, but I don't want to go

2777
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:17,760
Speaker 3: to Las Vegas because you think there's Las Vegas and.

2778
02:24:17,920 --> 02:24:19,400
Speaker 1: No one gives a fuck about it. No one in

2779
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:22,880
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. They're thinking about hookers and fucking his passion.

2780
02:24:22,959 --> 02:24:24,640
Speaker 1: Right now, they ain't thinking about hookers and gambling.

2781
02:24:24,800 --> 02:24:27,680
Speaker 3: Why the fuck away in Lost Bank? You under stayd

2782
02:24:27,680 --> 02:24:29,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, so I'm thinking about it. So all these

2783
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:31,080
Speaker 3: twenty seven years, I'm looking like that.

2784
02:24:31,200 --> 02:24:31,800
Speaker 1: I got jerked.

2785
02:24:31,840 --> 02:24:34,200
Speaker 3: For twenty seven years, they sent me to the to

2786
02:24:34,320 --> 02:24:36,520
Speaker 3: the places that they wanted them to descend, to eat

2787
02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:39,480
Speaker 3: the budget up. But right now I can Lil Wayne

2788
02:24:39,480 --> 02:24:41,400
Speaker 3: can do dreams champs, and I can say, Lil Wayne,

2789
02:24:41,480 --> 02:24:43,560
Speaker 3: go here here, here, here, here, here, and stay the

2790
02:24:43,600 --> 02:24:46,560
Speaker 3: fuck away from here here here. You had four views there.

2791
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:48,840
Speaker 3: What do you do you think those four people are

2792
02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:53,160
Speaker 3: gonna come out fifty five times? Let's get the fuck

2793
02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:55,480
Speaker 3: away from that state. But I'm saying that's the that's

2794
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 3: the only good thing about AI and these I can say, Mario, man.

2795
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:00,760
Speaker 1: Just tell you something.

2796
02:25:00,800 --> 02:25:04,400
Speaker 3: Man say, I'm not gonna say the state away from

2797
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:08,160
Speaker 3: such and such, go over there, go on this whole side,

2798
02:25:08,520 --> 02:25:09,480
Speaker 3: This whole side is with.

2799
02:25:13,320 --> 02:25:23,200
Speaker 1: That like that one like you hit Holy it's real ship. Though,

2800
02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you.

2801
02:25:25,120 --> 02:25:27,560
Speaker 3: When I saw when I saw like, I started to

2802
02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:30,400
Speaker 3: study the algorithms of what we're doing here, and I said,

2803
02:25:30,480 --> 02:25:32,720
Speaker 3: if I was to drop a record right now, I

2804
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:33,160
Speaker 3: would not.

2805
02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 1: I would not any for fifty two states. That's when

2806
02:25:36,959 --> 02:25:39,600
Speaker 1: we got fifty two, right, fifty all right, whatever, man,

2807
02:25:40,120 --> 02:25:43,680
Speaker 1: I gave you a sex for two all right, so

2808
02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:46,040
Speaker 1: fifty states, right, even the fifty states. I would not

2809
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:46,920
Speaker 1: hit fifty states.

2810
02:25:46,959 --> 02:25:49,440
Speaker 3: Like if they gave me a budget, I would hit

2811
02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:53,280
Speaker 3: the twenty two that I know I can double up

2812
02:25:53,320 --> 02:25:54,440
Speaker 3: on me because there was twenty two.

2813
02:25:54,840 --> 02:25:56,520
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just.

2814
02:25:56,520 --> 02:25:58,480
Speaker 3: Let's break it down. I'm just giving you an example.

2815
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:03,000
Speaker 3: Just say the twenty two is one is Pennsylvania. I

2816
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:07,000
Speaker 3: can break it down from Philly to penn State to Harrisburg.

2817
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:10,200
Speaker 3: Those are three different stops in that same state. And

2818
02:26:10,320 --> 02:26:13,959
Speaker 3: I can do the same exact numbers, probably even more

2819
02:26:14,480 --> 02:26:15,440
Speaker 3: and didn't move on.

2820
02:26:15,959 --> 02:26:17,440
Speaker 1: So it's no wasting time now.

2821
02:26:17,800 --> 02:26:20,400
Speaker 3: So now, Leo Colns told me it's the best time

2822
02:26:20,879 --> 02:26:24,680
Speaker 3: to drop music in the music industry because you don't

2823
02:26:24,720 --> 02:26:27,480
Speaker 3: have to you know, package it and you know do

2824
02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:27,800
Speaker 3: all that.

2825
02:26:28,040 --> 02:26:28,640
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

2826
02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:30,880
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I do agree with that. And it's crazy

2827
02:26:30,920 --> 02:26:33,240
Speaker 4: because after this album came out, I was like, yo,

2828
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:34,720
Speaker 4: I just I want to do it one more album.

2829
02:26:34,760 --> 02:26:36,960
Speaker 4: That's just like a passion project, bro, And then after that,

2830
02:26:37,040 --> 02:26:40,360
Speaker 4: I just want to start. I have thousands, like broad I,

2831
02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:42,879
Speaker 4: let's say thousand, but I probably got at least eight

2832
02:26:42,959 --> 02:26:46,240
Speaker 4: to nine hundred records, if not more. Wow, that's just

2833
02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:50,240
Speaker 4: sitting in hard drives. Not to say that those deserve

2834
02:26:50,320 --> 02:26:51,880
Speaker 4: to be out. I'm just saying that the rate that

2835
02:26:51,959 --> 02:26:55,400
Speaker 4: I record records and don't release is high, and I'm

2836
02:26:55,480 --> 02:26:57,320
Speaker 4: just rated. It's changed the way that I do that

2837
02:26:57,400 --> 02:27:00,120
Speaker 4: in terms of like music wise. You know, so I

2838
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:01,680
Speaker 4: think you're right, Bro, I definitely think you're right.

2839
02:27:01,720 --> 02:27:03,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not even you just got to

2840
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:05,520
Speaker 1: have fun with it and do do what you want

2841
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 1: to do what you love and have fun with it.

2842
02:27:06,879 --> 02:27:06,959
Speaker 7: Bro.

2843
02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:08,560
Speaker 1: Give the people the music. Stop holding back. You know

2844
02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:10,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm in that in that vibe right

2845
02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:11,480
Speaker 1: now for sure, like you are.

2846
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:16,400
Speaker 3: You are technically the Kevilliles. Now you are technically Leo

2847
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:17,160
Speaker 3: Cohns like you.

2848
02:27:17,520 --> 02:27:18,040
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

2849
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:20,600
Speaker 3: You can show like from what you do from here

2850
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:23,200
Speaker 3: on out, yeah, and follow you can show the next

2851
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:26,240
Speaker 3: generation like yo, listen, we could be signed to ourselves,

2852
02:27:26,959 --> 02:27:29,280
Speaker 3: not for sure, you know what I'm saying, and move

2853
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:30,119
Speaker 3: and move.

2854
02:27:30,040 --> 02:27:33,360
Speaker 1: Ourselves like it. I'm sorry to put the responsibility on

2855
02:27:33,400 --> 02:27:35,880
Speaker 1: you like that. That's fine. I've already taken onto it,

2856
02:27:36,040 --> 02:27:38,560
Speaker 1: taken on the respons Yeah, for sure, you know exactly.

2857
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:41,600
Speaker 1: For George, I love it. I love hearing it from you.

2858
02:27:41,760 --> 02:27:43,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You've been in the game

2859
02:27:43,080 --> 02:27:45,240
Speaker 1: for a long time, bro, even like the podcast, like

2860
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:47,720
Speaker 1: this is a whole other space. Yeah, I mean, how

2861
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:49,720
Speaker 1: many hours a day do you have to spend on this?

2862
02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:54,240
Speaker 3: We're organic, like if a person comes to Miami with it,

2863
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:57,160
Speaker 3: but we don't like have like schedules, and so you.

2864
02:27:57,160 --> 02:27:59,039
Speaker 4: Can do a lot of like this, Like you can

2865
02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:01,840
Speaker 4: do this and then go do like you don't have

2866
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:05,120
Speaker 4: to like you're not sitting here all days. So yeah,

2867
02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:06,840
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's definitely a space that I've thought

2868
02:28:06,840 --> 02:28:08,520
Speaker 4: about tapping into, but like it has to be I

2869
02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:10,400
Speaker 4: wanted to be a little different, but like, yeah, bro,

2870
02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:12,320
Speaker 4: you know it's it's what it is.

2871
02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:16,000
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to tell you is it's catering to

2872
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:19,560
Speaker 1: your audience. That's what I say. It's like, you know,

2873
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:24,080
Speaker 1: like sometimes you know, like I stopped doing.

2874
02:28:23,920 --> 02:28:26,880
Speaker 3: Shows right after this ship happened because I don't want

2875
02:28:26,920 --> 02:28:29,000
Speaker 3: to go to a show and I'm going to I'm

2876
02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:30,279
Speaker 3: going to see this guy's fans.

2877
02:28:30,680 --> 02:28:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to show with this guy's fans, right, Like, so,

2878
02:28:32,800 --> 02:28:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to be. I don't want to be.

2879
02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm jealous, like I want, I want my fans, right yeah,

2880
02:28:38,320 --> 02:28:40,600
Speaker 3: if I'm not doing it, And then I say the time,

2881
02:28:41,040 --> 02:28:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, I've got to realize. Yes, I started to realize,

2882
02:28:43,480 --> 02:28:46,720
Speaker 3: holy shit, certain people, all right, let me let me

2883
02:28:46,760 --> 02:28:47,040
Speaker 3: give that.

2884
02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:49,000
Speaker 1: Let me I'm sucking up this story. Let me let

2885
02:28:49,040 --> 02:28:49,720
Speaker 1: me just give them.

2886
02:28:51,160 --> 02:28:54,199
Speaker 3: It's only two times in my whole career twenty seven years,

2887
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:59,039
Speaker 3: I felt like I traded fans. It's only two times,

2888
02:28:59,800 --> 02:29:02,840
Speaker 3: like me doing records with Redman and method Man.

2889
02:29:02,920 --> 02:29:05,120
Speaker 1: God bless them, I love them. We were the fucking

2890
02:29:05,200 --> 02:29:05,920
Speaker 1: same fans.

2891
02:29:07,040 --> 02:29:09,560
Speaker 3: It's the same exact fans me doing records with Cameron,

2892
02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:11,880
Speaker 3: It's the same exact fans me doing records with Mardy.

2893
02:29:12,480 --> 02:29:15,280
Speaker 1: It's the same motherfuckers they brought us that. You use

2894
02:29:15,320 --> 02:29:18,480
Speaker 1: the same toothbrush they use the same, the same the

2895
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:20,040
Speaker 1: owner man, and the same lotion. Right.

2896
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:22,880
Speaker 3: Only two times I ever felt I traded fans. When

2897
02:29:22,879 --> 02:29:24,920
Speaker 3: I did a record with R Kelly and when I

2898
02:29:24,959 --> 02:29:29,119
Speaker 3: did the record with Daddy Yankee. Wow, I felt their

2899
02:29:29,240 --> 02:29:33,160
Speaker 3: audience followed me, and I was just like, oh, okay,

2900
02:29:33,320 --> 02:29:37,200
Speaker 3: that's what a collaboration means. When you collaborating with the

2901
02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:40,160
Speaker 3: person with the same audience, that's not collaborations, that's just

2902
02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:41,279
Speaker 3: you being Sometimes.

2903
02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:42,400
Speaker 4: She's doing it for the culture, if I get it.

2904
02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:45,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, I got a hit record, Yeah I got

2905
02:29:45,200 --> 02:29:45,600
Speaker 4: this a hit.

2906
02:29:45,760 --> 02:29:48,359
Speaker 3: But it's just if it's just if it's just to collaborate,

2907
02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:50,039
Speaker 3: that's it kind of doesn't matter.

2908
02:29:50,600 --> 02:29:52,959
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest with you. It's it's a classic

2909
02:29:53,040 --> 02:29:53,400
Speaker 1: to y'all.

2910
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:55,680
Speaker 3: If it's not a classes to the people who gives

2911
02:29:55,720 --> 02:29:57,440
Speaker 3: a fuck, you should have never throw it out, you

2912
02:29:57,480 --> 02:29:58,200
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, So.

2913
02:29:59,120 --> 02:30:02,880
Speaker 1: All right, dam coming out, I'll tell you that. Let's

2914
02:30:02,879 --> 02:30:11,680
Speaker 1: take a shot, yo, Mario Man, thank you, man, thank

2915
02:30:11,720 --> 02:30:14,080
Speaker 1: you for coming for I wanted to ask him something.

2916
02:30:16,320 --> 02:30:18,040
Speaker 1: We take a pee though everybody took a peep of me.

2917
02:30:18,840 --> 02:30:21,480
Speaker 1: Still ask the question when you come back.

2918
02:30:23,560 --> 02:30:26,160
Speaker 5: I know you give it up for writers who have

2919
02:30:26,879 --> 02:30:30,800
Speaker 5: done some writing for you on some of your projects. Yeah,

2920
02:30:31,360 --> 02:30:33,320
Speaker 5: are you big into the writing? Have you written for

2921
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:34,160
Speaker 5: anybody else?

2922
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:35,240
Speaker 1: You know?

2923
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:38,800
Speaker 4: I've written records that could one thousand percent for other artists,

2924
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:42,320
Speaker 4: But I've been stingy meant like, because I've been more

2925
02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:44,080
Speaker 4: instrumental in my own writing, I'm like, yo, I need

2926
02:30:44,160 --> 02:30:45,879
Speaker 4: to really like, I want to get some records off

2927
02:30:45,920 --> 02:30:48,840
Speaker 4: that I wrote for me versus like other artists writing

2928
02:30:48,879 --> 02:30:50,920
Speaker 4: for me. That's what I've been on lately. But one

2929
02:30:50,959 --> 02:30:53,199
Speaker 4: thousand percent you'll you'll probably see in the next.

2930
02:30:53,120 --> 02:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Couple of years, like records that I wrote for other

2931
02:30:54,720 --> 02:30:56,680
Speaker 1: artists for sure that I just haven't used.

2932
02:30:57,080 --> 02:30:58,800
Speaker 4: So I definitely got some fire in the in the

2933
02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:01,280
Speaker 4: in the chap for sure, in shame. So yeah, I

2934
02:31:01,320 --> 02:31:03,680
Speaker 4: got some fire in the chamber that I'm ready to drop.

2935
02:31:03,800 --> 02:31:08,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're looking forward to that. Yeah, for sure.

2936
02:31:09,080 --> 02:31:20,840
Speaker 1: I just not yo, yo, you're taking us at you

2937
02:31:21,840 --> 02:31:29,520
Speaker 1: with my whiskey. I seeing you big yeah, with the biggie,

2938
02:31:30,080 --> 02:31:32,240
Speaker 1: I see you. Yeah, man.

2939
02:31:32,320 --> 02:31:35,840
Speaker 4: You know from here, you know, we level up generational wealth,

2940
02:31:36,600 --> 02:31:41,400
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, to make sure we you know, anywheregotiate

2941
02:31:41,520 --> 02:31:46,160
Speaker 4: artists for sure. You know, I'm building so the way

2942
02:31:46,200 --> 02:31:49,959
Speaker 4: I see it, right, you know how you know Motown

2943
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:52,960
Speaker 4: was back in the day hmm, when the artists would

2944
02:31:52,959 --> 02:31:55,640
Speaker 4: get signed, they had a family for them to come to.

2945
02:31:56,600 --> 02:31:57,959
Speaker 1: When I say family, I don't mean.

2946
02:31:57,959 --> 02:32:01,000
Speaker 4: Like, oh, little, but they had me, like they had producers,

2947
02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:03,160
Speaker 4: they had writers, they had songs already had you were

2948
02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:05,720
Speaker 4: coming into a system that was already Not that I

2949
02:32:05,800 --> 02:32:09,000
Speaker 4: want to make an artist other artist music, but just

2950
02:32:09,120 --> 02:32:11,879
Speaker 4: like a community. So right now I'm building a community

2951
02:32:12,520 --> 02:32:15,520
Speaker 4: writers and producers before I sign artists. I feel like

2952
02:32:15,560 --> 02:32:18,040
Speaker 4: the community is important, you know what I'm saying, and

2953
02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:22,039
Speaker 4: like really building like the foundation of what New Citizen

2954
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:26,040
Speaker 4: is on the music side, not rushing into like new Citizen.

2955
02:32:26,080 --> 02:32:29,879
Speaker 4: So I got New Citizen labeled New Citizen, publishing New Citizen.

2956
02:32:29,920 --> 02:32:30,600
Speaker 1: It was my own brother.

2957
02:32:31,160 --> 02:32:33,080
Speaker 4: So New Citizen I started when I did my first

2958
02:32:33,120 --> 02:32:37,720
Speaker 4: independent project. And it's crazy that the name new Citizen,

2959
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:40,800
Speaker 4: you know, it's just how it relates to what's going

2960
02:32:40,840 --> 02:32:42,560
Speaker 4: on in the world today, like really becoming a new

2961
02:32:42,640 --> 02:32:44,280
Speaker 4: citizen of your own personal universe.

2962
02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:48,400
Speaker 1: That's what I created for. Well, yeah, bro, you know

2963
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:49,480
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing.

2964
02:32:49,760 --> 02:32:52,520
Speaker 4: I got New Citizen investments where I invest in different projects,

2965
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:54,840
Speaker 4: random shit that you would never expect me to be

2966
02:32:55,480 --> 02:32:58,840
Speaker 4: that I'm into, not on the actual like me putting

2967
02:32:58,879 --> 02:33:01,440
Speaker 4: out coins, but I've invested in companies that have both

2968
02:33:01,720 --> 02:33:05,720
Speaker 4: coins and also have tangible assets as well. So yeah,

2969
02:33:05,879 --> 02:33:08,800
Speaker 4: and they're doing like ship all across the board like

2970
02:33:08,920 --> 02:33:09,600
Speaker 4: so yeah.

2971
02:33:10,959 --> 02:33:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, He's like yeah yeah yeah yeah. Bro. It's

2972
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:22,520
Speaker 1: not bad though. So one day I heard you say,

2973
02:33:25,480 --> 02:33:28,800
Speaker 1: so let's talk about faster. Yeah yeah, okay, Now what

2974
02:33:28,959 --> 02:33:30,240
Speaker 1: form of fast than you talking about?

2975
02:33:30,760 --> 02:33:33,320
Speaker 4: So the first fast day was for twenty six days, bro,

2976
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:37,560
Speaker 4: water it was it was it was rich I was

2977
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:40,240
Speaker 4: doing it, or organ cleanse Oh wow.

2978
02:33:40,320 --> 02:33:43,040
Speaker 1: So there was a there's a guy that I was

2979
02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:44,760
Speaker 1: working at the time. He had developed these.

2980
02:33:46,760 --> 02:33:50,640
Speaker 4: Organ supplements cleansing supplements, but in order to do them

2981
02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:52,960
Speaker 4: you had to not eat, so it's just like a

2982
02:33:53,080 --> 02:33:53,760
Speaker 4: water fast.

2983
02:33:54,959 --> 02:33:58,520
Speaker 1: And it was like twenty six days. Well that was

2984
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:01,720
Speaker 1: the twenty six days you fix twenty six days. I

2985
02:34:02,520 --> 02:34:05,480
Speaker 1: lasted twenty six days. Yeah, okay, wow, I last it.

2986
02:34:05,600 --> 02:34:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2987
02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:10,760
Speaker 4: And you know, I think people are more comfortable speaking

2988
02:34:10,760 --> 02:34:11,600
Speaker 4: about these things today.

2989
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:12,200
Speaker 1: You hear about it.

2990
02:34:12,280 --> 02:34:15,720
Speaker 4: But it's true with what we talk about in terms

2991
02:34:15,760 --> 02:34:19,760
Speaker 4: of really getting to that level of connection with God

2992
02:34:20,000 --> 02:34:23,880
Speaker 4: and with yourself that it's impossible to do without fasting.

2993
02:34:24,560 --> 02:34:26,560
Speaker 1: There's no other way to.

2994
02:34:29,480 --> 02:34:39,920
Speaker 4: Experience there's no other way to experience spiritual awareness and

2995
02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:47,680
Speaker 4: evolution like fasting. Besides fasting, honestly, because you're want to

2996
02:34:47,720 --> 02:34:49,600
Speaker 4: face so many parts of yourself that you didn't even

2997
02:34:49,640 --> 02:34:51,560
Speaker 4: know was there. You're gonna face your damer You're gonna

2998
02:34:51,560 --> 02:34:53,640
Speaker 4: face your emotions, You're gonna face your fears. You're gonna

2999
02:34:53,640 --> 02:34:58,280
Speaker 4: face your desires, your fleshly desires, your human desires. You're

3000
02:34:58,280 --> 02:35:04,040
Speaker 4: gonna face all of you know, all of the things

3001
02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:07,520
Speaker 4: that you're so used to, your comfort, everything. It's going

3002
02:35:07,600 --> 02:35:11,560
Speaker 4: to push you to levels that well, all you have

3003
02:35:11,640 --> 02:35:15,080
Speaker 4: to lean on is guy. And that's the key of fasting, right,

3004
02:35:15,360 --> 02:35:19,640
Speaker 4: That's the key is to really connect you to a

3005
02:35:19,720 --> 02:35:24,600
Speaker 4: space where consumption isn't even something that you need. I

3006
02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:26,280
Speaker 4: do believe that at one point we didn't need to

3007
02:35:26,320 --> 02:35:29,480
Speaker 4: consume things to even live when we can live off

3008
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:33,720
Speaker 4: of consciousness alone. But that's the whole other conversation obviously,

3009
02:35:33,800 --> 02:35:35,640
Speaker 4: But I do believe that we didn't need to eat,

3010
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:40,400
Speaker 4: We didn't need to consume other living where conscious beings

3011
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:41,760
Speaker 4: to actually survive.

3012
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:44,600
Speaker 1: They used to say fast to feast, sat again.

3013
02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:47,680
Speaker 3: They used to say faster feast, like you fast for

3014
02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:50,000
Speaker 3: three days and then you go feast and then you

3015
02:35:50,120 --> 02:35:50,680
Speaker 3: fast again.

3016
02:35:50,720 --> 02:35:52,840
Speaker 1: That's what they said. Okay, back in the days. That's

3017
02:35:52,840 --> 02:35:58,840
Speaker 1: where okay, fast thing comes from. Okay, okay, faster feast. Yeah,

3018
02:35:58,920 --> 02:35:59,720
Speaker 1: I didn't feast.

3019
02:36:00,240 --> 02:36:02,640
Speaker 4: I didn't feast on twenty six days. When I did,

3020
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:05,400
Speaker 4: it was all fruits, it was all that.

3021
02:36:05,959 --> 02:36:06,640
Speaker 1: It was soups.

3022
02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:10,080
Speaker 4: No, No, it was just a huge freeze and raw

3023
02:36:10,120 --> 02:36:13,320
Speaker 4: foods like vegetables and raw But this was also during

3024
02:36:13,360 --> 02:36:16,920
Speaker 4: the time where the energy on the planet wasn't as intense. Okay,

3025
02:36:18,360 --> 02:36:21,280
Speaker 4: there's a little lighter okay, right now. I don't think

3026
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:23,560
Speaker 4: I could do that because I'm I stepped back into music.

3027
02:36:23,600 --> 02:36:27,160
Speaker 4: I stepped back into the you know, I stepped back

3028
02:36:27,160 --> 02:36:29,040
Speaker 4: into the field in a different way. I wasn't around

3029
02:36:29,080 --> 02:36:31,040
Speaker 4: people at the time. I wasn't nobody was feeding off

3030
02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:33,920
Speaker 4: my energy. I wasn't having to give my energy because

3031
02:36:33,920 --> 02:36:36,480
Speaker 4: it's like, all right, let me try to bypast this

3032
02:36:36,560 --> 02:36:36,879
Speaker 4: hold of.

3033
02:36:38,680 --> 02:36:43,440
Speaker 1: We shot. No, I'm trying to buy past ship.

3034
02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:44,480
Speaker 7: I got it.

3035
02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:57,280
Speaker 1: I gotta do that with my business. Yeah, you asked

3036
02:36:57,280 --> 02:37:03,960
Speaker 1: me a question, want to I signed up for this show? Nah?

3037
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:06,920
Speaker 4: But yo, it's it's it's it's Bro's it's simple, bro.

3038
02:37:07,080 --> 02:37:10,840
Speaker 4: It's you know, when you start the body and the

3039
02:37:10,920 --> 02:37:17,840
Speaker 4: physical of all of the things that make us weak,

3040
02:37:19,520 --> 02:37:21,000
Speaker 4: then you tap into your true light.

3041
02:37:21,080 --> 02:37:21,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

3042
02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:25,280
Speaker 4: This is it's it's something that you can't really arguate it.

3043
02:37:25,400 --> 02:37:27,920
Speaker 4: Science is something that our ancestors do. Is something that

3044
02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:31,200
Speaker 4: you know, we've even practiced that we don't remember.

3045
02:37:31,280 --> 02:37:36,480
Speaker 1: We forget because our memory gets white and ship, you know,

3046
02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:39,280
Speaker 1: we forget the things that we were born with.

3047
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:46,039
Speaker 4: You know, our ancestors practice, and so those days starts

3048
02:37:46,080 --> 02:37:48,280
Speaker 4: to come back to you. The body starts to eat

3049
02:37:48,320 --> 02:37:49,440
Speaker 4: away at all of the bullshit.

3050
02:37:49,560 --> 02:37:55,119
Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, that's you fastened. And then those who

3051
02:37:55,200 --> 02:37:58,959
Speaker 1: choose to take that route and to take that that that.

3052
02:37:59,320 --> 02:38:05,680
Speaker 4: Journey, get initiated into their own level of awareness and spiritual.

3053
02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Advancement.

3054
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:12,240
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's one of the best

3055
02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:13,600
Speaker 4: things you can ever do for yourself. I see a

3056
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:15,280
Speaker 4: lot more people doing it today than I've ever seen,

3057
02:38:15,320 --> 02:38:16,080
Speaker 4: and I love seeing it.

3058
02:38:16,959 --> 02:38:18,760
Speaker 1: I've seen Kevin Gates talk about it as well.

3059
02:38:18,959 --> 02:38:21,240
Speaker 4: Kevin Gates talk about it, and Eli Chapter talk about it.

3060
02:38:21,360 --> 02:38:24,680
Speaker 4: It's a real thing, bro, It's it's Nigga's not just yeah,

3061
02:38:25,760 --> 02:38:26,200
Speaker 4: it's real.

3062
02:38:26,800 --> 02:38:26,960
Speaker 7: You know.

3063
02:38:28,000 --> 02:38:32,600
Speaker 4: Celibacy fasting, whether you're preserving your energy, you're preserving your energy.

3064
02:38:32,360 --> 02:38:35,520
Speaker 1: You're tapping back into your your true self, your true light,

3065
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:39,120
Speaker 1: your true powers.

3066
02:38:39,240 --> 02:38:42,040
Speaker 4: I did two years, year and a half. Honestly speaking,

3067
02:38:42,040 --> 02:38:43,280
Speaker 4: I did the year and a half. I would say

3068
02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:45,920
Speaker 4: two years, but I did the year and a half. Celibacy, Yeah,

3069
02:38:46,160 --> 02:38:47,279
Speaker 4: no jergging off neither.

3070
02:38:47,320 --> 02:39:00,240
Speaker 1: Nothing bro my nigga nothing, bro nothing nothing nothing. Now

3071
02:39:00,320 --> 02:39:05,640
Speaker 1: that's discipline, like he can win man. But it's right.

3072
02:39:06,520 --> 02:39:09,080
Speaker 4: But again again, now we were. Now we're going to

3073
02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:11,000
Speaker 4: a different side of the interview. All right, let's go

3074
02:39:11,080 --> 02:39:17,080
Speaker 4: on over here. Okay, this is not anything. All right,

3075
02:39:17,160 --> 02:39:18,800
Speaker 4: let's take it. Let's take it to a whole other level.

3076
02:39:19,200 --> 02:39:25,240
Speaker 4: Imagine thousands of years ago or hundreds of years ago, what.

3077
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:25,920
Speaker 1: Everyone want to call it.

3078
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:28,800
Speaker 4: You are a man and you're set to go on

3079
02:39:28,879 --> 02:39:33,480
Speaker 4: the journey to another part of the land. You got

3080
02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:34,520
Speaker 4: to leave your wife and kids.

3081
02:39:36,080 --> 02:39:38,440
Speaker 1: You're going on another part of the land that you're

3082
02:39:38,440 --> 02:39:41,800
Speaker 1: set out to find, a new space, a new country,

3083
02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:45,039
Speaker 1: a new whatever. And you're emperor. Okaying.

3084
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:47,160
Speaker 4: At the time, it's like, Yo, I need you to

3085
02:39:47,200 --> 02:39:50,240
Speaker 4: get on this ship with two hundred other men because

3086
02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:50,800
Speaker 4: I believe that.

3087
02:39:50,800 --> 02:39:52,640
Speaker 1: There's something on the other side of this water.

3088
02:39:53,600 --> 02:39:58,440
Speaker 4: Say one of Abo Bakari's you know generals that's on

3089
02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:00,560
Speaker 4: one of those ships that you sent over from right,

3090
02:40:02,320 --> 02:40:03,119
Speaker 4: you can't have sex.

3091
02:40:03,760 --> 02:40:05,200
Speaker 1: You know how long it's gonna take you to get

3092
02:40:05,200 --> 02:40:05,680
Speaker 1: to the west.

3093
02:40:07,520 --> 02:40:10,480
Speaker 4: Right, But along that journey, all that energy that you

3094
02:40:10,680 --> 02:40:13,520
Speaker 4: are holding is giving you the strength to go on

3095
02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:17,600
Speaker 4: this journey. I'm just using this as an example. You're

3096
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:20,800
Speaker 4: not thinking about sex while you trying to survive. You're

3097
02:40:20,840 --> 02:40:22,959
Speaker 4: not thinking about sex. You're not thinking about You're thinking

3098
02:40:22,959 --> 02:40:25,199
Speaker 4: about Okay, I'm on this voyage. I'm on this journey,

3099
02:40:26,120 --> 02:40:27,960
Speaker 4: you know. You know, I think that we think about

3100
02:40:28,120 --> 02:40:29,800
Speaker 4: all of these things more because we're in the world

3101
02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:34,120
Speaker 4: where we're over extimulated, over stimulated by Instagram. It's with

3102
02:40:34,320 --> 02:40:38,360
Speaker 4: the x an escape, you know, a way for you

3103
02:40:38,480 --> 02:40:43,000
Speaker 4: to you know, it's like, Nigga, we I work hard today.

3104
02:40:43,280 --> 02:40:45,160
Speaker 4: You know, I just did a twenty hour shift. I

3105
02:40:45,200 --> 02:40:46,680
Speaker 4: always my head, I want some.

3106
02:40:47,000 --> 02:40:47,400
Speaker 1: I want some.

3107
02:40:47,879 --> 02:40:50,440
Speaker 4: It's like, nah, Like, as men, we got to redefine

3108
02:40:50,920 --> 02:40:54,320
Speaker 4: what true power is, especially in this in this where

3109
02:40:54,360 --> 02:40:57,199
Speaker 4: we are now. We need as much energy in quarter

3110
02:40:57,240 --> 02:41:00,840
Speaker 4: as we can get to get through is happening right now,

3111
02:41:01,400 --> 02:41:03,440
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But that's just the way

3112
02:41:03,440 --> 02:41:03,920
Speaker 4: I look at it.

3113
02:41:04,000 --> 02:41:07,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying but because it's yeah like

3114
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:09,520
Speaker 3: you you like girls will trying to come on to you,

3115
02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:11,560
Speaker 3: don't give them to your your number, none of that.

3116
02:41:11,920 --> 02:41:14,120
Speaker 1: Facts. They ain't in the room. You're hard to get.

3117
02:41:14,200 --> 02:41:27,160
Speaker 1: That's what's up, spun man. You know what I'm saying,

3118
02:41:28,600 --> 02:41:33,959
Speaker 1: because she has set you up though, yeah, set up.

3119
02:41:34,040 --> 02:41:35,960
Speaker 1: You ain't been in them headlines, that's what you know

3120
02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:39,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I understand the game. Yeah, you understand

3121
02:41:39,800 --> 02:41:46,360
Speaker 1: the game. Let me take a shot for that. Understand

3122
02:41:46,400 --> 02:41:49,840
Speaker 1: the game. It's about longevity. Bro Okay, I got you

3123
02:41:51,040 --> 02:41:53,120
Speaker 1: on my own page, Like, you know what I'm saying.

3124
02:41:53,640 --> 02:41:55,000
Speaker 1: You've been doing this ship.

3125
02:41:57,480 --> 02:41:59,640
Speaker 9: We ain't even doing this for two weeks, man, So

3126
02:41:59,680 --> 02:42:03,240
Speaker 9: you got two weeks off, you said two weeks.

3127
02:42:03,400 --> 02:42:08,080
Speaker 3: But two weeks before that, I went to Cairns and

3128
02:42:08,120 --> 02:42:11,320
Speaker 3: I went to Monaco. Yes, and this this is how

3129
02:42:11,440 --> 02:42:13,640
Speaker 3: rich stay was. I had a drone following me and

3130
02:42:13,720 --> 02:42:14,800
Speaker 3: nobody even looked at me.

3131
02:42:16,480 --> 02:42:20,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it is different the white people like,

3132
02:42:20,640 --> 02:42:28,120
Speaker 1: who get a fuck? But it's like ship. But I

3133
02:42:28,640 --> 02:42:31,680
Speaker 1: just say that, And it's a new world that we're

3134
02:42:31,680 --> 02:42:36,640
Speaker 1: going into. You know, I feel like your energy is

3135
02:42:36,680 --> 02:42:40,360
Speaker 1: the new currency. And you know what I'm saying energy.

3136
02:42:41,200 --> 02:42:42,680
Speaker 1: I think that was very important what you said. You

3137
02:42:42,879 --> 02:42:43,880
Speaker 1: could steal your energy.

3138
02:42:44,240 --> 02:42:46,840
Speaker 4: The newer that we're going into is just like you know,

3139
02:42:47,000 --> 02:42:51,520
Speaker 4: you you gotta be really aware of everything you know

3140
02:42:51,800 --> 02:42:52,400
Speaker 4: that's happening.

3141
02:42:52,440 --> 02:42:55,879
Speaker 1: As there's like a big there's there's a wave of.

3142
02:42:58,320 --> 02:43:00,920
Speaker 4: You know, shifts that's happened that's going to make a

3143
02:43:01,040 --> 02:43:04,119
Speaker 4: lot of people rich really quick. And if your mind

3144
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:06,120
Speaker 4: is not on the frequency of like what's happening and

3145
02:43:06,200 --> 02:43:08,400
Speaker 4: thinking for it, you might miss out. You might have

3146
02:43:08,480 --> 02:43:10,920
Speaker 4: an idea right now that you're sleeping on or not.

3147
02:43:11,120 --> 02:43:13,120
Speaker 4: You or somebody might have an idea right now, but

3148
02:43:13,240 --> 02:43:16,240
Speaker 4: because they're focused on feeding their senses and they're not

3149
02:43:16,280 --> 02:43:18,240
Speaker 4: even thinking about this ship, they're like, I'll get to it,

3150
02:43:18,360 --> 02:43:19,960
Speaker 4: Like nah, Like somebody else wanna do that idea and

3151
02:43:20,040 --> 02:43:23,760
Speaker 4: become a billionaire because you're not focused right now. This

3152
02:43:23,920 --> 02:43:25,480
Speaker 4: is a time of focus. We don't need more time,

3153
02:43:25,520 --> 02:43:29,560
Speaker 4: We need more focus exactly. And so that's how I

3154
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:31,520
Speaker 4: think every day. And I know I don't talk about

3155
02:43:31,560 --> 02:43:32,520
Speaker 4: this a lot on my socials.

3156
02:43:32,560 --> 02:43:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't.

3157
02:43:32,920 --> 02:43:34,560
Speaker 4: I don't talk about it a lot because I feel

3158
02:43:34,640 --> 02:43:40,000
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't want to. Social media is

3159
02:43:40,040 --> 02:43:45,199
Speaker 4: the Matrix and the devil, you know what I'm saying.

3160
02:43:45,280 --> 02:43:47,000
Speaker 4: So it's like I don't I don't like to like,

3161
02:43:47,879 --> 02:43:50,760
Speaker 4: I want to keep it pure. I want all my blessings.

3162
02:43:51,280 --> 02:43:52,240
Speaker 4: I don't want to mess them up.

3163
02:43:52,280 --> 02:43:53,400
Speaker 1: So you don't be on social media.

3164
02:43:53,480 --> 02:43:55,440
Speaker 4: I am on social media, but I only post like

3165
02:43:55,600 --> 02:43:58,520
Speaker 4: artistic things or like pictures of what I'm doing. I

3166
02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:01,600
Speaker 4: don't really post a lot about like the things that

3167
02:44:01,680 --> 02:44:04,200
Speaker 4: I'm doing right now. Don't really need social media to work.

3168
02:44:04,440 --> 02:44:06,800
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You fast for social media as well.

3169
02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:10,520
Speaker 4: Back then, Yeah, I wasn't even on social media doing

3170
02:44:10,560 --> 02:44:12,120
Speaker 4: that fast. I wasn't on social media at all.

3171
02:44:12,240 --> 02:44:16,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Bro, I was BRO. I wasn't around people, Bro,

3172
02:44:16,400 --> 02:44:16,720
Speaker 1: I was.

3173
02:44:16,879 --> 02:44:19,720
Speaker 4: I was to myself when niggas be like Nigga would

3174
02:44:19,760 --> 02:44:22,720
Speaker 4: use that for I was literally in a whole over

3175
02:44:22,800 --> 02:44:26,160
Speaker 4: realm of existence really, Like I had just moved to

3176
02:44:26,360 --> 02:44:28,480
Speaker 4: La from Baltimore. I moved away from Baltimore because I

3177
02:44:28,480 --> 02:44:30,080
Speaker 4: had to or I was on dio B and jail

3178
02:44:30,280 --> 02:44:34,320
Speaker 4: right and so I just needed to completely shift my

3179
02:44:34,480 --> 02:44:37,200
Speaker 4: perspective on life, you know.

3180
02:44:37,400 --> 02:44:39,680
Speaker 1: And I think people think like just because you've had

3181
02:44:39,720 --> 02:44:43,280
Speaker 1: success or just because you've had like like, nah, like

3182
02:44:43,400 --> 02:44:44,959
Speaker 1: real shit be happening in life where.

3183
02:44:44,840 --> 02:44:47,640
Speaker 4: You actually have to preserve yourself in order to survive

3184
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:49,920
Speaker 4: this shit life' is life, real life shit, you know,

3185
02:44:51,520 --> 02:44:51,760
Speaker 4: And so.

3186
02:44:53,800 --> 02:45:00,879
Speaker 1: So I can be here today, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,

3187
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:02,400
Speaker 1: it's real, bro, It's real.

3188
02:45:02,959 --> 02:45:03,120
Speaker 7: You know.

3189
02:45:03,480 --> 02:45:06,160
Speaker 4: Don't take for granted all of the people you know,

3190
02:45:06,400 --> 02:45:08,960
Speaker 4: like the nine nineteen Keys of the World and all

3191
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:11,080
Speaker 4: these other brothers that are out here, like really like

3192
02:45:11,200 --> 02:45:14,440
Speaker 4: trying to like explain to people, like yo, what the

3193
02:45:14,480 --> 02:45:16,039
Speaker 4: future is about to look like, because it's real.

3194
02:45:16,120 --> 02:45:20,119
Speaker 1: It's a real thing, you know. I just it's it's

3195
02:45:21,240 --> 02:45:21,920
Speaker 1: it's real, man.

3196
02:45:21,959 --> 02:45:24,200
Speaker 4: You know, if you're called to do something in your

3197
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:25,920
Speaker 4: spirit is calling you to try something new or do

3198
02:45:26,040 --> 02:45:28,280
Speaker 4: something new or change your you know, the way you

3199
02:45:28,400 --> 02:45:31,680
Speaker 4: live in listen because you might be one of the

3200
02:45:31,760 --> 02:45:35,760
Speaker 4: ones that's actually supposed to liberate you're you know, your

3201
02:45:35,840 --> 02:45:36,360
Speaker 4: soul family.

3202
02:45:36,480 --> 02:45:38,840
Speaker 1: You never know, would you ever do like a country

3203
02:45:38,879 --> 02:45:41,360
Speaker 1: album where I do a country album, but I do

3204
02:45:41,440 --> 02:45:42,840
Speaker 1: any type of album. I can do any type of

3205
02:45:42,959 --> 02:45:45,520
Speaker 1: music if it's with the right producers and the right energy.

3206
02:45:45,879 --> 02:45:49,279
Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah. Absolutely, Like say.

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Speaker 4: I played it role and like it was like I

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Speaker 4: don't know, you know, uh, talking about when the country

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Speaker 4: music was first starting to kick off in the black community.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I would play I were

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Speaker 1: playing it in the movies. Yeah for sure. I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 1: way is to tell different you know, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like that story haven't been told yet black people in

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Speaker 1: country music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, black rock and roll has been told because it's

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Speaker 3: actually documented that black people actually invented rock and roll.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been told in the movie. Yeah, doubt for sure. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: come on, come on for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So anything else you want to tell your fans before

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Speaker 3: you get about of here.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's bro. I mean, we just celebrated Mario.

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Speaker 7: Listen.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes be a good shoot on the rais the way

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Speaker 1: you take shots. You know why we celebrating the career.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate, man.

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Speaker 3: Let me just tell you something, man, you appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: They say, go where you appreciate it or not where

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Speaker 3: you tolerated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let you know. Thank you appreciate it and

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Speaker 1: you celebrate. Appreciate you, and you motherfucking appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Late and elevated. I represent us, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I represent strength, I represent focus. I represent you know

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Speaker 4: US alignment, Bro, you know New Citizen, and what I

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Speaker 4: plan to do over the next few years hopefully sets

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Speaker 4: the standards for like new.

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Speaker 1: Artists coming to the game.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people about to start making a lot

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Speaker 4: of money real fast if they're focused. And I feel like,

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Speaker 4: you know, invest your money, you know, make relationships, be

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Speaker 4: uncomfortable a little bit. Sometimes sometimes a relationship that you're

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02:47:38,720 --> 02:47:41,440
Speaker 4: uncomfortable with can can take you into doors that you

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Speaker 4: know you normally wouldn't get into. You know, invest your bread, bro,

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Speaker 4: be smart things, generational wealth. It's so crazy because I

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Speaker 4: had wrote something down on a vision board when I

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Speaker 4: came back from the UK, and I had a lot

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Speaker 4: of energy that was different. And I believe that whenever

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Speaker 4: you have a big shift of energy is a time,

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Speaker 4: whether it's negative or positive, it's a time for you

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Speaker 4: to manifest something powerful. Then you can transmit that energy

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Speaker 4: into something that you want for yourself. And I wrote

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Speaker 4: down on this vision board something I wanted, and literally

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Speaker 4: the next week it came to fruition, Bro, and I

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Speaker 4: was a part of something that was really big. And

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Speaker 4: everybody can do it in your own world. You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, so you're just believe in yourself. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Let's go, let's get it.

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