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Speaker 4: Hey man, this is one of the first time that
Speaker 4: I'll say I will accept the moral victory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I'm okay, okay with just being you like, more victory
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Speaker 1: So that's exciting. We're you know, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of football to talk about, lots of football to talk about.
Speaker 1: We're previewing the Commander's Tampa Bay game. But first let's
Speaker 1: talk more victories with animals. Yeah, more victories of animals,
Speaker 1: because you know this is this is kind of taking
Speaker 1: on the life of its own. The comments sections always
Speaker 1: talking about you can't beat a gorilla, you couldn't beat
Speaker 1: a bear. There's no animal you could beat, and so, uh, Jason,
Speaker 1: our producer, went online and looked up what was it, Jason,
Speaker 1: he looked up.
Speaker 2: I looked up like animals didn't have beens.
Speaker 6: With animals men with bare hands and if they survived
Speaker 6: or not, and then what the result of that.
Speaker 3: So basically, what you're telling us is the Romans were
Speaker 3: strong grouped in them.
Speaker 2: Well also they also we're talking about like.
Speaker 1: Just bare hands versus.
Speaker 2: The woods, and this thing approached me.
Speaker 3: Listen, you know what, I am from Mississippi that not
Speaker 3: have been in the woods and ran into a bear
Speaker 3: and my folks had to pray for that bear. That's
Speaker 3: all I'm telling you. I'm gonna tell you something that
Speaker 3: you don't think it's dangerous that. I don't think none
Speaker 3: of y'all can handle. And that's at least a four
Speaker 3: point deer. If you run into a deer in the woods, now,
Speaker 3: deer would kick you.
Speaker 2: To the ground.
Speaker 1: You see those videos of people walking out to their
Speaker 1: car in the morning and they surprised the deer and
Speaker 1: the deer just runs right.
Speaker 2: Listen to me, A deer will miss you up.
Speaker 4: I was riding my back the other ninety seeing like
Speaker 4: four deers and they surprised me.
Speaker 5: They was in the dark and I had my light
Speaker 5: on it and I blind them and they want to
Speaker 5: just scattered.
Speaker 4: Please don't come this run that way, please, because I mean,
Speaker 4: you can't outrun them. And one of the things about
Speaker 4: it is crazy because it's like they're not trying to
Speaker 4: hurt you, but they just don't know what they trying.
Speaker 3: To protect themselves and what they do. So is it
Speaker 3: any animal? Come on, we were part of the one
Speaker 3: percent out for me a group. Is it any animal
Speaker 3: we can beat with our bare hand?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I could beat it.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the video?
Speaker 6: There is a video out there of like a kangaroo
Speaker 6: that grabs and put.
Speaker 2: On the block and the guy goes up in boxes.
Speaker 1: Also, I mean we're talking about crazy internet stuff. That
Speaker 1: wass the dude who jumps in the lake after his
Speaker 1: dog gets bit and wrestles the dog away from an allegator,
Speaker 1: my dog lap, that's.
Speaker 2: The last time. What about a well, you know, Florida
Speaker 2: having a problem with pythons.
Speaker 3: Now, so do you think because people got pissed and
Speaker 3: they letting them into they have a glade, do you
Speaker 3: think you can handle a python in the water.
Speaker 2: In the water in the water man.
Speaker 1: Probably not. I wouldn't feel very comfortable, very confident, But
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: You got to you got to poke the eyes out.
Speaker 1: So are you just making stuff up?
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you how to the ice?
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously.
Speaker 5: Eyes volume volume ten?
Speaker 2: All right, so actual reporting here?
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, So apparently a Colorado man fought off
Speaker 6: a mountain lion.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
Speaker 2: It was an adolescent mountain lion. I would say it
Speaker 2: was not a grown maund lion.
Speaker 1: But he did you just to I think it was
Speaker 1: like ninety one hundred pounds. Dude, just choke you could
Speaker 1: choke that out. It's like it's gonna scratch you up.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're gonna feel great afterwards, being all right, what.
Speaker 3: Would you do if you were walking through the wood
Speaker 3: just just minting, you old being, You've just seen a
Speaker 3: dude over there wrestling.
Speaker 1: The mountain lin, Well, hopefully I go over to help
Speaker 1: him out.
Speaker 4: Whatever trail, whatever trail I was on the wine, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be walking this way, you know, because you know
Speaker 4: what the first thing you wanna do it pick up
Speaker 4: my phone like its din a dude.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna mind my business.
Speaker 4: That's that's what mother let me start, because I'm about
Speaker 4: he can't even beep that one out. No, But what
Speaker 4: I'm saying and what I meant is that's what people's
Speaker 4: problem is. That's you know, they mind, they don't mind
Speaker 4: their business, and then they end up being eighting by
Speaker 4: that damn mountain line and hey, get off.
Speaker 1: They tear to it, dude, like those people Yellowstone that
Speaker 1: are like trying to take pictures with the bison and
Speaker 1: they get really close and the bison runs them over.
Speaker 1: It's like that's a wild animal, dude.
Speaker 3: Animal don't know how to buy it by your rooms,
Speaker 3: all right, at the end of the day, a buffalo listen, do.
Speaker 2: You know how big an elk is.
Speaker 3: Nobody ever talks about an ilk, but I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've ever seen one walk crowd Street.
Speaker 2: It's bigger than your car, bigger than your car. It's beginning.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's it is they got you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Jason Reader thinking, I'm gonna fact checking out.
Speaker 1: There are very very I know they're big, but like
Speaker 1: they are huge.
Speaker 3: So what what animal is the most dangerous? The kids
Speaker 3: more people than any I mean person, I mean kid multiple.
Speaker 2: He told us on the last show, I did hippo. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's hip.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, let's get it.
Speaker 2: Okay, you ganded man killed a lion?
Speaker 1: Dude, how big was the lion?
Speaker 2: Okay? So most off the problem.
Speaker 6: The problem with this reporting is that the lion after
Speaker 6: he killed him, he like butchered it. So he says
Speaker 6: he killed the lion with justice, bare hands, but there's
Speaker 6: no report.
Speaker 2: Basically, just trust me, I trust him.
Speaker 3: If anybody gonna get the job done, come on, it's
Speaker 3: around him. I always say, if it's in your environment,
Speaker 3: you can't handle it. Like I'm from Mississippi, Louisiana, so
Speaker 3: it's a lot of animals just there that other people
Speaker 3: don't have to take on.
Speaker 2: Most people don't even know the dim between the cracker
Speaker 2: dile and a alligate. It's I mean, they're different.
Speaker 1: I'm a human being around them.
Speaker 2: I'm around certain.
Speaker 4: I'm around dogs every day, and I ain't trying to
Speaker 4: get bit by dog. I ain't trying to see myself
Speaker 4: in that situation.
Speaker 5: I don't care if it's a chihuahua. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I find that I find the felines more intimidating because
Speaker 3: you cannot run from them.
Speaker 2: You can't climb a tree.
Speaker 1: Are scary.
Speaker 3: Big cats are scary, Like, if they want you dead,
Speaker 3: you are dead.
Speaker 6: Montana, two guys were camping and they fought and killed
Speaker 6: a grin bear.
Speaker 1: This is the wrestlers. Yes, it was like a bunch
Speaker 1: of high school wrestlers. They went and they saved they
Speaker 1: we don't purpose they killed the bear the one I read.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not an investigator.
Speaker 6: I just clicked on the link and read the first
Speaker 6: couple of sentences. It said they killed the grizzly bear.
Speaker 6: That's what it said. I didn't read how big it
Speaker 6: was or anything. I personally don't care how.
Speaker 1: They use bear hands.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well they didn't have anything, like, they didn't
Speaker 6: have weapons. I don't know if they were choked it out.
Speaker 6: Maybe they grabbed.
Speaker 2: They had to choke it out. That's your only thing
Speaker 2: to cut off the oxygen.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could pick up a rock, maybe if
Speaker 1: you had a knife. Maybe, I don't know. The revenant.
Speaker 4: I just don't want to be in that situation where
Speaker 4: I had to think about what I'm gonna used with
Speaker 4: this bear, you know, against this bear.
Speaker 5: I don't even have to be in.
Speaker 4: Those situations like you want a boy scout? Why do
Speaker 4: people I know, I never wanted to be a boy scout.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: I don't want nobody was. I said, I had to
Speaker 2: get it out of the got to do it. The
Speaker 2: boys say the scent of the jail curl juice with
Speaker 2: a tract animals. So he told me to leave my spread.
Speaker 2: What you know how you had a little story went no, no.
Speaker 3: You know how you had to like the little high
Speaker 3: top of ad guys put the little kid in it.
Speaker 5: You had a little duke.
Speaker 3: I had to little duke in my head. And then
Speaker 3: so my uh scout master Kevin told me before we
Speaker 3: going out here, check this out, you might need to
Speaker 3: leave take your curl out, take the juice out. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you talking about? He like, because
Speaker 3: it's attract wild animals.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well okay, and I went in there.
Speaker 3: I had my little my little wit camper home, and
Speaker 3: my homeboy talked about me.
Speaker 2: It was so fun.
Speaker 1: I joined, I'm not up on what do you what
Speaker 1: do you call the oil putting your hair? Duke? I'm
Speaker 1: not up on that so young, I'm not up on that.
Speaker 1: But if you have any insight, information, audience, or even comment.
Speaker 4: I had a duke one time. Man, I put it in,
Speaker 4: I didn't get the curl and went straight.
Speaker 2: I had a walk.
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, what you know? You got some bad You.
Speaker 2: Don't get the carol? Then what they do is south
Speaker 2: is the hair?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand what I'm saying. Like matter of fact,
Speaker 1: you couldn't wear it when you were camping.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was just giving me insight. Yeah, like, don't get
Speaker 3: close to the fire because you hate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what I get.
Speaker 2: Yea, what happened to Michael Jackson?
Speaker 3: Yeah, his carol got his carroll caught on fire?
Speaker 2: What did Michael jackson hair caught on fire? You's younger
Speaker 2: than I can forgetting round.
Speaker 1: Come on, enough of animals and Jerry curls and fires.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some football. What do you think you're
Speaker 1: all right? So the Washington Commanders have the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers coming up. We'll start on the We'll start on
Speaker 1: the offense, the ball. Okay, what are the expectations? High level,
Speaker 1: highest of levels for the offense. Sorry, not your mike.
Speaker 1: Going into this week one match up versus this type
Speaker 1: of back uh.
Speaker 3: For the first four weeks of the season, legitly the
Speaker 3: most unpredictable team in the NFL. We are You don't
Speaker 3: know what our offense looks like. You don't know what
Speaker 3: Kif clean Berry wants to do. You don't know what
Speaker 3: our running game looks like. You don't know what he
Speaker 3: want to do.
Speaker 5: You want to say Cliff and.
Speaker 2: Rub together. I know.
Speaker 3: It's a hard name. It's a hard name to say
Speaker 3: five times in a row. It just it is all right, Cliff,
Speaker 3: all right, king perfect. They don't know what to expected
Speaker 3: in this office. So for the first four weeks, everybody
Speaker 3: gonna be playing on their heels. They're gonna play safer
Speaker 3: defenses against us. To understand what we are doing. So
Speaker 3: if we're ever gonna lead off hot, it's gonna be now.
Speaker 3: I and they understand we have the capability to run
Speaker 3: the ball, and not just with the two running backs,
Speaker 3: with the quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's the X fact.
Speaker 3: When you have that on a defense, A defense is
Speaker 3: no this being but don't break because we don't want
Speaker 3: to give him confidence.
Speaker 2: Early and let him make a big play.
Speaker 5: You asked high expectations or hig what just.
Speaker 1: A high level high like like general expectations for the team.
Speaker 1: You think you Fredie kind of hit on the head there.
Speaker 5: I think he hit it down the head.
Speaker 4: I think also too, when you look at it, the
Speaker 4: one thing you could bank on in any any offense.
Speaker 5: I mean, and we don't know this offense ship. We
Speaker 5: haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: We haven't seen these guys run you know, Cliffs offense.
Speaker 5: But we know of his offense.
Speaker 4: And I think the one thing we can bank on
Speaker 4: being something of a norm for us is leaning on
Speaker 4: our run game.
Speaker 5: I think, I think if.
Speaker 4: You hand the ball off to to be rob and
Speaker 4: knowing what we can do with the quarterback, that's going
Speaker 4: to be something that I feel like that's going to
Speaker 4: be our I guess you can say bingo.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, something that we can all say, hey,
Speaker 5: at the.
Speaker 4: End of the day, we can do this, we can
Speaker 4: do this, and this is going to set up whatever
Speaker 4: we do outside. And I really don't know. Like I said,
Speaker 4: I really don't know. I'm I'm I want us to
Speaker 4: come out slinging it. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I wants to come out just be that team that
Speaker 4: we expect this office to be, spread out.
Speaker 5: Sling it all round the part.
Speaker 4: But I think having be robbed to me, I really
Speaker 4: think be rocking the habits. I have one of those
Speaker 4: seasons I think we have been waiting on. I think
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a lot of RPOs.
Speaker 3: Letting him be the describator, not just in the past game,
Speaker 3: but the describator in the run game, giving him these
Speaker 3: big windows to throw in. That's why I say, you
Speaker 3: start off running. So when he started to throw in
Speaker 3: the windows and you want him to get that third
Speaker 3: and nine completion.
Speaker 2: That wonder is huge. Just make the play.
Speaker 3: So I say, let him be the ball handler kind
Speaker 3: of like Steve nashing hiss thing from.
Speaker 2: The beginning, and give him easy throws.
Speaker 3: I don't want his first couple of week for him
Speaker 3: to be out there making all fifty to fifty throws,
Speaker 3: I don't think that's where I want him at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's interesting. The run game stuff
Speaker 1: because they have Anthony lenn He's been a part of
Speaker 1: some very diverse run schemes. You got Brian Johnson the
Speaker 1: quarterback coach, who was part of that Philadelphia run schemes.
Speaker 2: So they can do anything. They can do.
Speaker 1: They can do own read with the quarterback like you're saying,
Speaker 1: they can do urpo. They can have a more quarterback
Speaker 1: centric run system. I don't know if you want to
Speaker 1: do that with Jayden because of his body type. The
Speaker 1: thing I would just call attention to is with Todd Bowles,
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, head coach, kind of defensive coordinator for
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, is they're one thing that they want to do,
Speaker 1: probably more than anything, is stopped the run. So they
Speaker 1: run a three to four base defense, right, so three
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, four linebackers. Those linebackers are like edge shetting thumpers.
Speaker 1: So that's like traditional like heavy personnel. Right, So when
Speaker 1: you watch them last year, like they'll be in like
Speaker 1: three four personnel versus eleven versus like three wide receiver sets,
Speaker 1: which is very unusual. So what I would say is,
Speaker 1: to Tanni's point, if I want to run the ball,
Speaker 1: it's gonna look a little different than how I would
Speaker 1: normally do it. I want to spread them out. I
Speaker 1: want to get it.
Speaker 2: Go three wat getting the ten. Run down here, getting
Speaker 2: the ten.
Speaker 1: See if you can get them out of that heavy personnel.
Speaker 1: See if you can get them saying oh, let's go
Speaker 1: on our four down look with our two linebackers, because
Speaker 1: I do think you're gonna have to run the ball.
Speaker 1: But just Todd Bowles like his like the genesis of
Speaker 1: his defense is stopping the run.
Speaker 4: And then with that being said, just knowing how how
Speaker 4: Cover two kind of you know, gives you those different lanes,
Speaker 4: those different avenues you can throw the ball in too.
Speaker 4: I mean, some of the things that I love when
Speaker 4: we when you face Cover two team is the high
Speaker 4: low aspect, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I love when I love hitting corners in those Cover
Speaker 4: two you know holes and knowing that, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: play these games with them. I'm running this under right
Speaker 4: over here, I'm running this hitch over here to set
Speaker 4: up this corner from this tight end or to setup
Speaker 4: this corner from this slot guy and then eventually that
Speaker 4: that coner tends to drop back a little bit.
Speaker 5: Now I'm throwing and I'm throwing a hit.
Speaker 4: So I mean, it's so it's it's not an easy
Speaker 4: defense to you know, go out there and just you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But also when you have a
Speaker 4: young quarterback, yeah, you got to think about how they're
Speaker 4: gonna be put pitt in their ears back saying that's
Speaker 4: going after them too. Well, that's why Kim show us
Speaker 4: that he can read this stuff and know what to
Speaker 4: do when we send his heat.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's why you gotta love Beadish in this team
Speaker 3: because Beyondish and Vita Vea is where everything starts and ends.
Speaker 3: Like the center in the nose guard. Ain't too many
Speaker 3: those guards left in his league. He is one of them.
Speaker 2: So you want to talk about stopping the run, I
Speaker 2: got two words for you that Vita Vea.
Speaker 3: We got to move him out of them between Sam Cosmy.
Speaker 3: It's not what I say, having a gouard like Cosmy,
Speaker 3: having a center like Beaddish, they can get their job done.
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Run on this team, moving him is the first thing
Speaker 3: you have to do. Putting him in the lap of
Speaker 3: those linebackers is what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to put three sixty in someone's lap,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna have to figure out a way to
Speaker 1: do it right.
Speaker 2: You gotta make him stagnant.
Speaker 1: You know. I think another interesting thing that we haven't
Speaker 1: really seen, but you know, we've talked about a little
Speaker 1: bit this offseason is Brian Robinson running the football, you know,
Speaker 1: getting him down here. You mentioned he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: good year. But Austin Eckler too. Like the usage of
Speaker 1: both those guys, how they're gonna fit together in this offense,
Speaker 1: because again, we can do a lot of different stuff
Speaker 1: to get you out of what you want to do,
Speaker 1: and so run the football off like we can get
Speaker 1: into what I would call like pony personnel. We got
Speaker 1: the two fastbacks and they're no fullback and spreads you out.
Speaker 2: We still have a.
Speaker 1: Seven man blocking surface. We can do some damage up there.
Speaker 1: So I I expect them to use both those guys
Speaker 1: in the past game and the run game maximize that group.
Speaker 3: Do you want to attack the edges to tire out
Speaker 3: of Vita veya.
Speaker 2: Early in the down. Do you want to make him
Speaker 2: do this?
Speaker 3: Like usually when our offense to see us with a
Speaker 3: big detac of the first thing they say is let's
Speaker 3: make him chase early and we'll run down.
Speaker 2: He'll let him late.
Speaker 1: Dude. I've told this story a million times, but it's
Speaker 1: one of the funniest stories in two thousand to me
Speaker 1: about like big personnel. So in twenty ten or eleven,
Speaker 1: we played the New England Patriots at home, and I
Speaker 1: remember we were on the first fifteen plays. Kyle had
Speaker 1: us going from yep from twelve to eleven to ten,
Speaker 1: back to twelve, thirteen's in there, and we were switching
Speaker 1: personnel every single time. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a little unusual for Kyle, like he likes to
Speaker 1: switch personnels, but it was a lot.
Speaker 5: So I was like, you know why, trying to get
Speaker 5: that big boy time, and he.
Speaker 1: Was like, I want Vince Wilfork to run from the field, yes,
Speaker 1: to the sideline, thank you, and then back. So that's
Speaker 1: one way to do it, right, get him off the field.
Speaker 3: And then think about it, Not only do we get
Speaker 3: the becks to go side ways, our quarterback can go sideway.
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, if I'm Tempa Bay right now,
Speaker 3: knowing what I know, I know one thing about this.
Speaker 3: I know two things about this offense. I know they
Speaker 3: want to move quick. I know they want to speed
Speaker 3: the tempo up. There tempo team that we did show
Speaker 3: that in the preseason with a tempo team, and they
Speaker 3: got a mobile quarterback. Them the only two facts they
Speaker 3: know about other than that, it's all upon us to
Speaker 3: dictate to them what are we gonna do it, and
Speaker 3: how we're gonna do it, and how they're gonna stop it.
Speaker 5: And what good smart smart man.
Speaker 1: So so that segues really nicely into the next question,
Speaker 1: which is, you know what, like obviously they've shown the tempo,
Speaker 1: they've shown the mobility of Jaden. What is like, what
Speaker 1: can we expect from Cliff and what can we expect
Speaker 1: from Jaden in the week in the week one outing.
Speaker 3: I'm just so caught up as a defensive player because
Speaker 3: at their first game, anytime we playing a new quarterback,
Speaker 3: new offense coordinator, a new head coach, we just blah,
Speaker 3: we're trying to be in but don't break like that.
Speaker 3: Should I say we're not on a tack mode. It's
Speaker 3: like we usually be like, if it's somebody that we
Speaker 3: already studied filing, we know they all fence. We're gonna
Speaker 3: find weaknesses and try to attack them. You don't know
Speaker 3: how weakness because we haven't showed you anything. And I
Speaker 3: just think that unpredictability is just is at the top
Speaker 3: of the thing. They're gonna make them say, hey, let's
Speaker 3: play a couple too early. Let's see what the game
Speaker 3: plan is about the half. And once we know the
Speaker 3: game plan about half, then we're gonna switch up. We're
Speaker 3: gonna run whe we want to run.
Speaker 4: I just have a feeling, man like I think, you know,
Speaker 4: with just seeing some of the things that I've seen
Speaker 4: Cliff do in Arizona, and how I mean Kyler, he
Speaker 4: just rants.
Speaker 5: He He bothered me.
Speaker 4: At times watching him play because it looked like he
Speaker 4: was in his backyard for real, just running around making plays.
Speaker 4: But I think with the quarterback that we have now,
Speaker 4: he's gonna surprise a lot of people.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: I think the way we're gonna run this offense, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be fishing, it's gonna be it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: little more like they're gonna they're gonna have They're gonna
Speaker 4: have moments when they take advantage of that predicted that
Speaker 4: that unpredicted, you know, not being predictable enough to say, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're gonna speed this thing up a little bit. But
Speaker 4: I think Jayden's gonna really surprised a lot of people
Speaker 4: this game won. I think pocket I'm looking, I'm feeling
Speaker 4: like two hundred plus yards man from Jayden in the ara,
Speaker 4: just and it's gonna be one of those games that
Speaker 4: we're gonna sit there and say, yeah, you know. And
Speaker 4: I'm not saying this is gonna be something that he's
Speaker 4: gonna go out there and win this game.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's going to be something that we
Speaker 4: don't even expect. Yes, because I'm expecting him to be
Speaker 4: a rookie. You know, I really had the back of
Speaker 4: my head to make it.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be something struggling. But I really think gonna
Speaker 4: surprise a lot of folks.
Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna think about it.
Speaker 3: I want people to not take that Cardinal's offense and
Speaker 3: try to miss it to this one because it's two
Speaker 3: different quarterbacks. The one thing about Kyler he had to
Speaker 3: always do that. Why I wouldn't never had a problem
Speaker 3: with him is because he's short inside the pocket. He
Speaker 3: liked to roll him out on boots, waggles and stuff
Speaker 3: to move the pocket so he can have clear vision.
Speaker 3: You don't have to do that with Jayden James talling
Speaker 3: in the pocket. He can stand in he can scan
Speaker 3: the whole field, so therefore giving him that ability, not
Speaker 3: forcing him to have to move the pocket like he will.
Speaker 3: Now he can move the pocket as a luxury instead
Speaker 3: of as a necessity. And I think what they had
Speaker 3: to do in Arizona it was in the sisity to
Speaker 3: move to pocket.
Speaker 2: Here is going to be a plus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you hit on a couple. Both
Speaker 1: of you guys had on some really great points there.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: I think we have stuff that we can play close
Speaker 1: to the best. Right, we haven't shown a lot of offense. Right,
Speaker 1: We've shown a little bit of what Cliff's philosophy is,
Speaker 1: but he's got so many new quters we don't really know.
Speaker 1: So I think, like Todd Bowles, at his core, he
Speaker 1: wants to create pressure, he wants to stop the run,
Speaker 1: and then when you're in third and long, he's gonna
Speaker 1: blitz and the blitzes are exotic. There's zone pressures, there
Speaker 1: are dog blitzes. So zone pressure means that if I'm
Speaker 1: bringing five, I'm dropping defensive lineman out to cover zones. Right,
Speaker 1: if it's a dog, I'm just adding rushers, and the
Speaker 1: defensive line says in a rush, and so they're very complicated.
Speaker 1: They're very game plan specific. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna blitz the back, We're gonna make sure we
Speaker 1: keep we dictate a slide, we dictate where the center's going,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna rush the two man's side. So that's
Speaker 1: something that I think plays to our advantage because we
Speaker 1: don't have any tendencies.
Speaker 2: We haven't shown any protections yet.
Speaker 1: So if anything, the blowd nature of kind of saying,
Speaker 1: hey we're gonna get in our base calls, see what's
Speaker 1: going on, and then adjustes the game going on.
Speaker 2: I think we take out Nick, Yeah, we take out face.
Speaker 1: I think. So I think that's exactly right. So I
Speaker 1: think that's it. So, you know, Todd Bowles, stop the run,
Speaker 1: bring exotic pressure. Their defensive line is pretty dynamic. You know,
Speaker 1: they've got Colijah Cansi, They've got Logan Hall, who is
Speaker 1: a former first round pick, first round pick. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's he's gone. Yeah, Yadabi is
Speaker 1: the guy that's replaced him, fourth round pick, and then
Speaker 1: the kid from U dub a couple years ago who's
Speaker 1: also fourth round pick. So they have four first rounders
Speaker 1: on the on the defensive line that are playing pretty
Speaker 1: good football. They've got uh David, he's still there. He's
Speaker 1: done a great Jobield is absolutely crushing it. So they
Speaker 1: do have some pieces on this defense that are are dynamic.
Speaker 1: But I think and they're they're a good group. They're
Speaker 1: good group. Obviously White is there, he's up in Filly now,
Speaker 1: so they've got a replacement in there for him. So
Speaker 1: at the second level, got some work to do. But
Speaker 1: keeping that together and then keeping the novelty is going
Speaker 1: to rain them in a little bit, which is good.
Speaker 1: And it's just about finding I think something for Cliff
Speaker 1: where you can use the tempo, where we can spread
Speaker 1: you out, we can get you in personal group pease
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: think it is going to be super important. Then what
Speaker 1: I'd say is just Jaden like knowing that they want
Speaker 1: to pressure you, knowing they want to do some challenging
Speaker 1: things and the sky stuff like how hard is that
Speaker 1: going to be?
Speaker 3: I would get him in there and say, if you're
Speaker 3: gonna see a blitz, it's.
Speaker 2: Rarely gonna be a man the man blitch start it off.
Speaker 2: It's just not it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be zone blitz. Find the hot who who is ed?
Speaker 3: Once he find the ad, the person is a you
Speaker 3: throw in the spot that he leaving, like that's what
Speaker 3: he gonna They're gonna simplify that much for him because
Speaker 3: like I told you, it's a defense our hands and tie.
Speaker 3: When we play running quarterbacks, we cannot play two men none.
Speaker 3: We could play nothing that we turn out back to them.
Speaker 3: So if we zone blitzing.
Speaker 1: Which have shown the've shown a little two men under
Speaker 1: like I I watched last year.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, but they nothing even even just say
Speaker 3: a couple one, I mean just man and man. All right,
Speaker 3: my back has turned to him. We don't want that.
Speaker 3: So zone blitch. You will see that early and often
Speaker 3: because they want to confuse him, like if they're gonna
Speaker 3: come out firing on our sealing and saying, you know what,
Speaker 3: let's see, let's see how you handle pressure.
Speaker 2: Therese would be zone blitzes.
Speaker 3: The question is how fast can you pick up on
Speaker 3: where the guy's coming from?
Speaker 2: And who do I got over there? Do I got
Speaker 2: my slot? Do I got my tight end? Is my back? Finn?
Speaker 2: Go feel in there. That's how he needs to know.
Speaker 4: How you feel about us having those those packages more
Speaker 4: of this game with the tight ends, having multiple tight
Speaker 4: ends on the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think what you want to do
Speaker 1: is kind of present novel looks to the defense. Like
Speaker 1: Fred was saying, it's the first week, right, So like
Speaker 1: what I do think you're gonna run into is like,
Speaker 1: if you bring multiple tight ends on the field, you're
Speaker 1: bringing their base person out there back bring, You're bringing
Speaker 1: heavy guys on.
Speaker 2: The field, making their strength on the field.
Speaker 1: But that's good for us in a way, right because
Speaker 1: think about our tight ends. Obviously John Bates big blocker,
Speaker 1: excels that are But I think Ben Sinnen can win
Speaker 1: a one on one matchup. I think zach Ertz can
Speaker 1: win a one matchup. So if they're not going to
Speaker 1: match us a nickel and thirteen, for example, you can
Speaker 1: find good matchups. And the one thing about thirteen personnel
Speaker 1: is usually you get to cover three response from the
Speaker 1: defense because of the extra run gaps. Yes, you have
Speaker 1: to bring that safety down the box, So I do
Speaker 1: think that is a valuable tool. I also think spreading
Speaker 1: them out as a valuable tool getting them in that
Speaker 1: sub defense where it's four defensive linemen, two linebackers, and
Speaker 1: an extra defensive player on the field. So I think
Speaker 1: if I'm Cliff, I'm definitely trying to rotate in and
Speaker 1: out of personnels. I want to find things that give
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels tells offensively right, because you talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: fire zones and all those different things. Like the great
Speaker 1: thing about fire zones when you're bringing zones is you're
Speaker 1: usually bringing five rushers and that means there's three underneath
Speaker 1: defenders and three over top defenders, which maybe is confusing
Speaker 1: for listeners, but usually it's four or five underneath defenders.
Speaker 1: So those windows underneath become a little bit more clear.
Speaker 1: So if you can get it picked up, identify the pressure,
Speaker 1: you can get the ball out. So it's really a
Speaker 1: double edge short. I want to use personnel to advantage.
Speaker 1: I want to use formation of my advantage, and I
Speaker 1: want to make sure that I have an answer for
Speaker 1: the pressure because if we can pick it up, Jane
Speaker 1: Daniels has showing the ability to get the ball out.
Speaker 3: Pressure is find the uncomfortable space guy because the one
Speaker 3: thing about Zone Bliss is one of these guys is
Speaker 3: gonna be a defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: Drop it comfortable. Find him the closest man to him.
Speaker 3: You get him the rock because he's the dude that
Speaker 3: and guess what you do that once or twice, they
Speaker 3: will stop dropping him.
Speaker 2: They'll find somebody else to tell their lineback, and.
Speaker 3: No, you float let him go. Like so we want
Speaker 3: to make sure we address it, especially when you get
Speaker 3: ahead of things like if I'm a coordinator, I know
Speaker 3: I gotta run a quarterback like some stuff I'm just
Speaker 3: ready for, like I'm naturally ready for it because my
Speaker 3: hands are tied so much on defense. I gotta hope
Speaker 3: my guys win matchups, not me beating you with the pin.
Speaker 3: I gotta hope my guys just better than yours.
Speaker 4: Because you can send them guys and lose, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. And we've been in that situation.
Speaker 3: You're sent on no leania win, they don't all they
Speaker 3: don't always get home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and then one thing I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about Tannet because you've been in this situation before,
Speaker 1: is they have a Zion McCallum is a dB that's
Speaker 1: first year starter for them.
Speaker 2: Outside.
Speaker 1: If you're Cliff, are you trying to get Terry on
Speaker 1: him as much as possible?
Speaker 5: I'm trying to. I'm just trying to.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get him uncomfortable quick waves, not even
Speaker 4: your office and not even just one guy. I want
Speaker 4: to see how he Who's the guy that's that he
Speaker 4: can't handle?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Who is he uncomfortable with? Who?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 5: Who he's scared of? You know? I mean how he's
Speaker 5: going to play certain people?
Speaker 4: Because you know, you get some of these little young
Speaker 4: knuckleheads these days, they won't that smoke, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, They don't know enough to know enough if
Speaker 4: somebody always out there for you. But y'all want him
Speaker 4: uncomfortable as possible by bringing different kind of receivers at him.
Speaker 5: So now he's like, cause you.
Speaker 4: Know you have a guy when you when you're watching
Speaker 4: that one guy which might be terry for us, you
Speaker 4: know you can ask move with this. I don't know
Speaker 4: how y'all dB is playing, But I've always assumed that
Speaker 4: when when a guy knows he's he's he's sticking me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's pay it for what I bring bring to the table.
Speaker 4: But if he's like, damn, I got diammy Now damn
Speaker 4: I got some kids and all these different w receive.
Speaker 5: Now we no browns on the study in Terry.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Terry is just aggressive. So I was getting ready to
Speaker 4: fight with him, you know what I mean. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: got guys quick fast, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: I would make him uncomfortable as possible by bringing different
Speaker 4: kind of bodies type sense.
Speaker 3: No, he right, put him in overload mode, like sensory overload.
Speaker 2: Like think about it.
Speaker 3: You get teary, somebody gonna get out of here and rast
Speaker 3: you and really put them hands on you. Then you
Speaker 3: get dummy's some guy gonna try to run past you.
Speaker 3: Then you get a smaller receiver. Like so now it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: they doing they kind of throwing everything at me, and
Speaker 3: that's what you want, Like, I want to make sure
Speaker 3: that he he's not comfortable with one person, like when
Speaker 3: we know we gonna stick one wide receiver. I got
Speaker 3: your habits, I know what your habits, and not just
Speaker 3: your habits. The offensive coordinator. I know how he wants
Speaker 3: to get you to route.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget. And this was funny, man, And this
Speaker 4: is one of the good stories. I have a revis
Speaker 4: because I always said I only played him twice, played
Speaker 4: when he was young his rookie season. Came home and
Speaker 4: I called home boy, like bro I just played some
Speaker 4: mony named Reeves. This boy and my homeboy Bowie knows
Speaker 4: DB's like the back of his hand. He said, I
Speaker 4: told you to be ready for him. He's good. So
Speaker 4: he made me fight for every yard, you know, so
Speaker 4: the next time I see him, it's year eleven for me.
Speaker 4: I just come off from my hand being broke. I'm
Speaker 4: probably ten pounds heavier. And it's crazy just him knowing
Speaker 4: me from then. When I get out there, he told Camarty, man,
Speaker 4: you running with ten of the day, I'm not running
Speaker 4: with this dude.
Speaker 2: He changed sides.
Speaker 4: So that just goes to show you how DB's already
Speaker 4: study like they know what they want to be, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Deeve Reeves is very He's one
Speaker 4: of those guys. I was happy. He said he ain't
Speaker 4: want to run with me today because I know how
Speaker 4: difficult it was to get open on him, but that
Speaker 4: just goes to show you. As much as we sitting
Speaker 4: here and praised him about how he can lock, they
Speaker 4: want certain guys. They don't want to be in no
Speaker 4: game where this guy finna tire me out with his
Speaker 4: speed and his quickness that I can't be myself.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, because he was.
Speaker 3: He was so good at the point of attach. Youre
Speaker 3: talking about putting your hands on somebody with made reeve.
Speaker 2: Is so good. He never opened the gate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, never.
Speaker 3: He wanted to pay him back. That stayed man. He
Speaker 3: wile and forget what at that time, at that age,
Speaker 3: he understanding, all right, if I don't get my hands
Speaker 3: all the way on talent, I can't.
Speaker 2: Beat them running. So it's just you knowing the situation.
Speaker 4: I just brought that up just to say that's what
Speaker 4: goes on DB's head. So they like you giving them
Speaker 4: terry and he's a young buck. He might be prepared
Speaker 4: for that one guy.
Speaker 2: And they're gonna give him help.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They're gonna help.
Speaker 4: But if you bring in somebody that he ain't all right,
Speaker 4: then he gonna go to now he might be a
Speaker 4: little taller or bid.
Speaker 5: It's it's different, man.
Speaker 4: But it's just it's great that you said that because
Speaker 4: you asked that question, because I've always knew that when
Speaker 4: we folk, like when we face guys that know me,
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, they just pressing me because they want
Speaker 4: to try to bother me when early so they don't
Speaker 4: have to coach like I was always z so I
Speaker 4: was always off the ball. But I'm like, bro, he's
Speaker 4: pressing me one and he knows that the old line sucked,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So I only said, you.
Speaker 4: Know, by the time they got back there, I can't
Speaker 4: get the ball because they know that's press ten and
Speaker 4: puts them over the top.
Speaker 5: And I's like, move me and slide me into the slodes, slot.
Speaker 4: Me do something different because they especially when we played
Speaker 4: the Cowboy, they will always put some of my old men.
Speaker 2: Man, they found a way to get off it.
Speaker 4: But it's just one of those you know things that
Speaker 4: if they know you enough, they ain't gonna be they
Speaker 4: know your habits.
Speaker 1: That's really cool because I think there we talk a
Speaker 1: lot in abstraction or a lot, you know, like not
Speaker 1: specifically about you know, different formations, different personnels, different motions.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great example, you know, real world
Speaker 1: example of how motions can help your players and confuse
Speaker 1: the defense, you know. And so we're talking about it. Oh,
Speaker 1: you know you need a motion shift. This is exactly why.
Speaker 1: And so I do think again, like the fact that
Speaker 1: this is going to be a new thing that Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles is seeing the Commander's offense is going to be new.
Speaker 1: Think about all the opportunity Cliff has today.
Speaker 2: I said, deliverages in that way.
Speaker 1: And you know, like everyone talked about like they made
Speaker 1: it very clear, we're gonna take our time. We're gonna
Speaker 1: really kind of keep everything close to the vestnant gonna
Speaker 1: show a lot. This is the reason. This is the payoffs.
Speaker 1: Didn't see a lot in the preseason. But do you
Speaker 1: guys have a offensively a matchup that you're like, this
Speaker 1: is the matchup we need to.
Speaker 3: I told you beyonddish beat the Veil like the point
Speaker 3: of a tech beyond his wins Dead Battle. Not only
Speaker 3: did it mean Jayden Jersey is clean, they mean the
Speaker 3: running game is healthy.
Speaker 2: We win this game.
Speaker 3: So Beyonddish beat the Veil that he listen, I'm talking
Speaker 3: about a sumo wrestling contest, like for four quarters in there,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just I just say Cliff and to go Yeah
Speaker 4: that to me, I just I just feel like to coordinated,
Speaker 4: he's going to get in his bag. I mean, you
Speaker 4: got a young guy. I mean they don't really know
Speaker 4: who he is and until they, you know, get out
Speaker 4: there on the field with him. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: we don't know, we don't know what we can throw at,
Speaker 4: we don't know what we can allow him to do.
Speaker 5: We don't know how much we can put on this play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in trie because, like I agree with the
Speaker 1: vitavated thing. I love the Cliff Todd Bowlson because that's
Speaker 1: where the chess match is going to happen. But I
Speaker 1: also think the guards Ali gretty and this caused me
Speaker 1: because they're there are four eyes. They're like, they're so
Speaker 1: you got the nose guard, the guy lies over the center,
Speaker 1: and you got your four eyes, which will play three
Speaker 1: tech taker over the tackle are Elijah Canci, who's a
Speaker 1: great pass rusher, yeah, and Logan Hall, who is also
Speaker 1: a great pass rusher. And usually that's not the case.
Speaker 1: Usually they run stop Yes, and so the fact you've
Speaker 1: got some juice there, those guards to kind of deal with,
Speaker 1: and the center's got a one to one matchup, I
Speaker 1: think that'll be really interesting to watch. And the other
Speaker 1: guy that I just wanted to call attention to was
Speaker 1: zach Ertz and his utilization because I think you know
Speaker 1: Antony Winfield Junior is there. He's a he's so fun
Speaker 1: to watch man. He's a great run player, he's a
Speaker 1: great blitzer, and.
Speaker 3: They have him all I played with his daddy. I
Speaker 3: basically raided him. We took him everywhere with us in
Speaker 3: the episode, So I know, I know to kid very
Speaker 3: much personal and the one thing about him, he's headed
Speaker 3: just like his daddy.
Speaker 2: He but guess what we can give you nothing this Yeah,
Speaker 2: Tweezy Junr. We get you. We get your man in
Speaker 2: the stady.
Speaker 3: So now, like I say, everybody gonna be at there
Speaker 3: just trying to process, like taking as much information as possible.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say zach Ertz versus Antoin Winfield Junior.
Speaker 1: But you bring up a great point, Fred, Like if
Speaker 1: I'm Todd Bowles, I'm not. I don't have those matchups categorized.
Speaker 1: I don't have them I'm gonna be in like my
Speaker 1: simple cover three, my simple fire zones, because I need
Speaker 1: to make sure we can adjust to whatever and then
Speaker 1: maybe as the half of the.
Speaker 2: Game rules nowleass what we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: So obviously I think a big You know, if there's
Speaker 1: one takeaway from that, if you're a Commanders fan, it's
Speaker 1: Cliff Todd Bowles, how you handle the pressure, different personnel's,
Speaker 1: different looks. Because it's all novel and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great chessman's screamage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a rich warfare.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk now about the defense. And I
Speaker 1: think the defense kind of it's almost the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: So and what I mean by that is Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers have a new defensive coordinator, Liam Cohen. He was
Speaker 1: in LA with Sean in twenty twenty two, then he
Speaker 1: went to Kentucky for a year and now he's back
Speaker 1: in the NFL and he runs a version of that
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Yes, yeah, So that's what Tampa Bay's bringing, right,
Speaker 1: and they have a ton of They extended Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: they extended their left tackle Tristan Wirfs. They extended Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: They drafted a guy in the second round, McCullen from.
Speaker 2: The basins receiving.
Speaker 1: They got and they got a reet you know, they
Speaker 1: got a good one. Who's so they are a really
Speaker 1: interesting matchup and and I think the thing that's crazy
Speaker 1: to me is their offensive line is very good. They
Speaker 1: drafted a guy in the third round last year from
Speaker 1: North Dakota State. He's playing left guard for him. Maybe
Speaker 1: my favorite offensive line in the draft last year. Graham
Speaker 1: Barton is playing center for him. Their right tackles doing
Speaker 1: a good job, their left guard, the right guard is
Speaker 1: doing a good job. It's a group. And so when
Speaker 1: you watch them in the preseason, they're playing Miami and
Speaker 1: they are blowing those dudes off the ball, and then
Speaker 1: they they have the ability now to run the football
Speaker 1: because they were like the last they were I think
Speaker 1: they were the fifth worst team last year in rushing efficiency.
Speaker 1: So they were like, nah, let's fix it. Let's fix it.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna invest in that group. Ra Sean White's
Speaker 1: a good player, but they also have these tremendous playmakers
Speaker 1: on the outside. So if I'm joe Ah Junior, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do we do?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, like, because we haven't really seen the final version
Speaker 1: of this offense. We can assume it to look like
Speaker 1: what it did in LA. We don't know for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know what it gonna look like. But
Speaker 3: I know they got Rashid White. They ball passing a
Speaker 3: lot last year. So whatever he didn't do Russian, you feel,
Speaker 3: then the gap passes. Now Baker, Baker the touchdown maker.
Speaker 3: I like Baker, but we all know this one. Come
Speaker 3: and tread about Baker. He is better with his back
Speaker 3: against the wall. Just got paid another new offense. I
Speaker 3: think this could be his six new offense. Like so
Speaker 3: as much as we learning a new offense, they learning
Speaker 3: the new offense also, So they got to catch up.
Speaker 3: And I know this is about Baker in them short quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: I want to keep you in the pocket. So I'm
Speaker 3: not rushing him to sack him. I'm rushing him to
Speaker 3: keep him in this pocket and make him throw through
Speaker 3: the guard in the center. I want him to throw
Speaker 3: through lanes and over people. I don't want him to
Speaker 3: throw around people. I want him to throw through people.
Speaker 4: So you're saying this new coordinator's taking a love piece
Speaker 4: of m Sean McVay. Yeah, that's always scared the next three.
Speaker 4: That's you know, how we talk about that offense.
Speaker 2: I understand that offense.
Speaker 3: That's scary, But how much McVeigh and as much as
Speaker 3: I love Mike Evans, he ain't branding out you when
Speaker 3: it comes to block, like he ain't.
Speaker 4: Wake up yet without a thousand, you know, talking.
Speaker 2: About my receiving part. They're talking about the run game point.
Speaker 3: I feel like like Goblin for the For as good
Speaker 3: as he is past catching, he usually gets hurt. With
Speaker 3: all the injuries you have, they usually come from run blocking.
Speaker 3: He ain't the quickest guy to get in that run block.
Speaker 3: To me, what makes Sean McVay offense so dominant is
Speaker 3: what those wide receivers do.
Speaker 4: They have a guy who can do that over there
Speaker 4: though too. He don't really need They don't need your
Speaker 4: boy Evans. They have the other guy that does a
Speaker 4: lot of that.
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin. What I'm saying, Chris Godwin. His last two
Speaker 3: injuries then came from the run game, from his legs.
Speaker 2: Getting ran up on.
Speaker 4: I think he years away from that now. He might
Speaker 4: be more healthier this year. I mean last year, I
Speaker 4: can see he was still getting over that injury.
Speaker 5: But he's tough. He's toughest now.
Speaker 4: He's like that and Kwan bowlten type wide receiver, slash
Speaker 4: that that Debo type wide receiver, very physical in his
Speaker 4: body type. Don't look that way, but I'm saying he
Speaker 4: catched those kind of routes. He's he's one of those
Speaker 4: possession guys that can also turn up.
Speaker 5: So it's tough, man.
Speaker 4: But like one of the things I just want to,
Speaker 4: you know, bring to your awareness this offense. The thing
Speaker 4: I loved about Cows and sewn them offense is someone's
Speaker 4: always open. That's the thing that's about someone is always open.
Speaker 4: So the way we play defense here the week, the
Speaker 4: way I watch these guys play defense in Dallas, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be a great matchup if they're on that level
Speaker 4: out the gate. Yeah, I mean, because they're gonna test
Speaker 4: them to see, you know, those those drifts and those
Speaker 4: different routes that we find them. You know, we find
Speaker 4: the ways of putting you guys in stacked, stacking guys
Speaker 4: and put them in bunches. That's what's gonna really show
Speaker 4: how good we are at the cornerback.
Speaker 3: That's why I say I believe anytime I go against
Speaker 3: the Shanahan based offense. To me, it ain't about the
Speaker 3: defensive line in the in the DB's, It's about the linebackers.
Speaker 2: I've watched this defense.
Speaker 3: I mean, this office has been stopped and every time
Speaker 3: I watch it, even if it's Shanahan on Shanahan crime
Speaker 3: like when I see that, like the forty nine ers
Speaker 3: in the Rams play the linebackers, I have one making.
Speaker 3: All the players are changing the game. So if you're
Speaker 3: telling me I got to put this on Wagner in Louvu,
Speaker 3: I feel good about this.
Speaker 4: What did what did green Bay do against Kyle to
Speaker 4: stop Kyle last year?
Speaker 2: I don't want that game and watch the game I've been.
Speaker 4: Saying, because I remember it was a close game. It
Speaker 4: was a close game. And then the guy in the hand.
Speaker 3: I think what they did with with with green Bay
Speaker 3: did a good job of They put it in debos
Speaker 3: in them hands and say we ain't gonna let you
Speaker 3: beat us with Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: But if you beat us with debo and our you
Speaker 2: so be it.
Speaker 1: But that's I think that's the whole thing. With the offenses.
Speaker 1: They want to run the football right, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: receivers blocking and so obviously Shawn's iteration of this offense,
Speaker 1: the receiver's got a block, they're blocking like duo and
Speaker 1: like I use psyched too, leaning on linebackers, you know,
Speaker 1: with with McCaffrey, it's a little bit more you know,
Speaker 1: traditional gap power stuff, a little less duo. There's a
Speaker 1: little bit more outside zone with a jet sweep. And
Speaker 1: then we go down to Miami and it's all perimeter runs.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's way different. So it
Speaker 1: all they all, it all take different iterations. I think
Speaker 1: that's what's interesting about you know, Liam Cohen here in
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, excuse me, is that he might be like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna get in like two tight end sets
Speaker 1: and run the football more traditional run stretch because they
Speaker 1: because unlike LA's offensive line, which is like this big,
Speaker 1: hulking power gap scheme line, Tristan Worf's can run.
Speaker 2: Now no, no, I know, a Trican wave can get at.
Speaker 1: Tody Mack can run, you know, uh, granm Barton can run.
Speaker 1: So they can do some and they're also very powerful.
Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna have a wide array of
Speaker 1: stuff at their disposal. I think they're gonna lead more
Speaker 1: on the play action stuff like Tanna saying, with the drifts.
Speaker 2: You get Baker to get deep down the field.
Speaker 1: Right, That's that's what I'm saying. So it's not gonna
Speaker 1: look like it did in LA where you have Matt Stafford.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna look like it did in San Francisco
Speaker 1: where you got Rock Curdle. It'll look it'll look like
Speaker 1: it's a missing. So I went back and I watched
Speaker 1: the La Rams game versus the Dallas Cowboys from last
Speaker 1: year because I'm like, oh, court, very similar, very similar.
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, they played a ton of
Speaker 1: man the man coverage in this game the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get you guys to take do
Speaker 1: you think they can play that much man with this
Speaker 1: group or do you think they're gonna be running a
Speaker 1: little bit more You.
Speaker 3: Can play man, especially when we telling their free safety
Speaker 3: find Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: Not all the time though, right, not all the time.
Speaker 2: But it's a certain lean. I don't need it. I
Speaker 2: don't need you to be completely over me.
Speaker 3: But if we know this dude gonna get twelve chances
Speaker 3: to burn the right corn, you might need to be
Speaker 3: hipping out the right corn because that's where the target's
Speaker 3: gonna go. Chris God would do most of his damage inside, right, Well,
Speaker 3: Mike Evans is outside and deep, all right, that's what
Speaker 3: we cannot give up. We cannot give like we cannot
Speaker 3: go on the road and give up big plays to
Speaker 3: Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: And he's actually gotten much better too about running that
Speaker 1: deep incut, which is a huge feature of this office.
Speaker 4: So no, I'm not playing that man, unless I know
Speaker 4: we getting home and unless I know that we we
Speaker 4: don't see if you if you're playing man a lot,
Speaker 4: then you know that we got Baker where we want to. Man,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
Speaker 4: pressure him because that's something that he's not good with
Speaker 4: getting getting that ball.
Speaker 2: That's who I want to get out there, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, That's what I want.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying that because I'm not that I'm not
Speaker 4: one hundred percent confident yet. Yeah, and just just me
Speaker 4: my opinion about how we really are looking outside that
Speaker 4: fine and today show you know what it is. I said,
Speaker 4: these guys not I want to say.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I'm not from man, and man, I'm not comfortable yet.
Speaker 4: I want to see these guys play a game in
Speaker 4: this new scheme and say, okay, we can we can
Speaker 4: play Man with these guys.
Speaker 5: Now you know what I'm saying, But.
Speaker 2: That's what stop.
Speaker 3: Where the hell six knockdowns knocking down passes meaning they're
Speaker 3: not rushing for sex, they rushing to crowd this pocket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the defront.
Speaker 3: I was rid for them to have six PBUs then
Speaker 3: fox sex because at the end of the day, y'all
Speaker 3: just don't know how one pass knockdown, two pass knockdown.
Speaker 2: Man, he is a third down.
Speaker 3: Were off the field like they change games Like I'm
Speaker 3: most suffocate Baker may feel in this pocket and if
Speaker 3: you don't beat me out of the pocket, so be it.
Speaker 2: But you will not get out of this pocket. And
Speaker 2: we blitzing.
Speaker 3: I have to blitz pray action if I if I
Speaker 3: feel the play action come, I'm going to blitz it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you guys brought up really great points there.
Speaker 1: And you know one of the things about you know,
Speaker 1: Tanna's not saying we can never play man. It's just
Speaker 1: about when when we sprinkle it in to be selective,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what I would expect too, Tenna.
Speaker 1: The other thing you mentioned about bat balls, and I
Speaker 1: think maybe the most important matchup in this game, and
Speaker 1: we're not quite there yet, so I'm jumping the gun.
Speaker 1: My bad is one of the things that short quarterbacks
Speaker 1: have a hard time with is internal pressure. Yes, and
Speaker 1: we got Doran and John and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: like they've looked great. No one's seen him in the preset,
Speaker 1: but they look great in practice, and so I would
Speaker 1: expect them. You know, they're they're matching up with some
Speaker 1: you know, some some guards inside that are but they're
Speaker 1: young players. Yeah, And so can we can we make
Speaker 1: him work a little bit? Can we compress that pocket
Speaker 1: because you know, trips and worfs, that's a tough matchup. Man,
Speaker 1: he's only the best offensive linean in football. But if
Speaker 1: we can create pressure, collapse the pocket, limit those throwing
Speaker 1: windows from him. And again, there's a bunch of different
Speaker 1: ways to do that. Like I went back and watched
Speaker 1: Frankie Louvu highlights the other night because I'm doing a
Speaker 1: breakdown for Coaches Show, and he's one of the best
Speaker 1: blitzing linebackers in the NFL. Can we get him on
Speaker 1: a back? Can we get him on can we get
Speaker 1: get him in there? Again, compress that pocket, get him
Speaker 1: on breakers feet like short quarterbacks. You look at him historically,
Speaker 1: they've got great guards on the interior to keep pocket depth,
Speaker 1: not so much pocket with pocket depth. So I think
Speaker 1: we can definitely take advantage of that into Tannis point.
Speaker 1: Then I would feel more comfortable. We could play a
Speaker 1: little bit Maank coverag because he can't see it as well.
Speaker 3: Yep, and and rashat if he got in a week
Speaker 3: and he's right now is past.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, And so I'll give you I jumped a
Speaker 1: gun a little bit. That's my key matchup is those
Speaker 1: two guys inside. Do you guys have a matchup for that?
Speaker 1: You're kind of keeping an eye on, saying all right.
Speaker 3: When it comes out defense versus their offense, like yours
Speaker 3: was yours key inside with drum paint and John Allen,
Speaker 3: I go second level. I go like Bobby Wagner, Frankie Louvu,
Speaker 3: stopping screens, running down when they trying to take the edges,
Speaker 3: blowing stuff up, keeping baking the pocket.
Speaker 1: I'm going with Wagner, and I gotta give Tanna a
Speaker 1: shout out here and YouTube. But like you know, one
Speaker 1: of the things about Bobby Wagner's he's super smart, you know,
Speaker 1: so he's got to understand, Hey, that double team on
Speaker 1: the guard doesn't look quite right this play action. Yes,
Speaker 1: let me get out of here, let me get under
Speaker 1: the throw. And the other thing about having him in
Speaker 1: the building is now I can tell Frankie Louver, I
Speaker 1: can tell Dominique Captain, I can tell whoever is in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that, this is what we're looking at.
Speaker 2: Scratch what you said, Yeah, you stay right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's where they're trying to They're trying to
Speaker 1: get the ball there.
Speaker 5: So I think that's a matchup.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be how we play Mike Eman's with our coin,
Speaker 4: you know, man, not necessarily one guy in particular, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, just all of them. What we're gonna throw
Speaker 4: at him, you know what I mean? Because I mean
Speaker 4: I feel like we have we have the capability. I
Speaker 4: just want to see these guys out there. Actually, I
Speaker 4: really want to see these guys. That's my biggest Like
Speaker 4: you know, how you have an asterisk by somebody. I
Speaker 4: just want to see our cornerback play as a whole,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, No particular person, just how
Speaker 4: they play now in this defense because one of.
Speaker 2: The things we always said, it's built for Saint Juice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just saying I want to just see
Speaker 4: what we're gonna do, you know, how we want to
Speaker 4: how we're going to go up against that kind of town.
Speaker 1: Is he one of the most underrated receivers in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Hands down, dude, that's goods my mind, Like he is
Speaker 1: so many.
Speaker 4: I tell you one thing, though, you know how spread
Speaker 4: always bringing that jaywalking.
Speaker 5: He gonna jay walk into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: I know that much.
Speaker 4: Listen, don't walk into that he gonna move walk into
Speaker 4: that thing. I mean, it's gonna be like one of
Speaker 4: those things.
Speaker 2: But just good. But his name ain't flash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the market in the marketing, you know, like.
Speaker 3: Like you you hate it when I say this so
Speaker 3: funny regular names, it just pops up like real like
Speaker 3: you're talking about receivers.
Speaker 1: You've talked about quarterbacks regularly. Now it's just like I
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 2: I have his numbers.
Speaker 3: Anybody, but guess what they're just like, you know his
Speaker 3: name is Mike Evans.
Speaker 7: Like they don't want like if his name was Sentango
Speaker 7: And yeah, man, I didn't I know, I told you
Speaker 7: so I want to tell you this, but like I
Speaker 7: was on Instagram the other day and there was a
Speaker 7: cut up of him from Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like returning punks and catching touchdowns, and I was like,
Speaker 1: Santanta Mas is a sick name. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: because then that's you're going, Santanta Ma's going.
Speaker 2: It works.
Speaker 5: It's so crazy.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that cut up?
Speaker 4: All the way they actually allowed they collawed with me,
Speaker 4: but no, it's crazy when you listening to it on TV.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I never watched myself on the I
Speaker 4: watched the cut up, but now I get a chance
Speaker 4: to reflect. I'm sitting there listening and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: Fred will write this name like like just like everything
Speaker 4: they came out of their mouth. It's like, dude, you
Speaker 4: know what. I'm the same thought when I was watching
Speaker 4: it sounds like sports car.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a sports car, like you could tell
Speaker 3: like dudes would be like I just be like coach,
Speaker 3: who we got this week?
Speaker 2: And he'll tell me the name like he just regularly.
Speaker 3: Like it's just if the name wasn't threatening to me,
Speaker 3: that a good's just different.
Speaker 2: Say say something about that.
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, come on, come on, that's pretty. Just go
Speaker 1: that's pretty.
Speaker 2: But I guess what. You don't know? But one rice
Speaker 2: that is true. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You don't know, But one right, who legitly got the
Speaker 3: most regular name that's a superstar?
Speaker 2: Is it? Mike Evans?
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Tom Mike Evans is pretty regular too, though
Speaker 1: Mike Evans is up there.
Speaker 2: But Tom Brady name that braiden out. It don't look
Speaker 2: the same. Different, It doesn't look like even Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: got this about it. Ce J scrowd, he's just oh okay.
Speaker 2: The initials helped with that, like a J. Brown, Like
Speaker 2: who you got this week?
Speaker 5: I got a J.
Speaker 2: Brown? Peyton Manning, that's all Peyton.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Eli, yes, like even cecil College like going
Speaker 3: back to dudes like that, Like a name sales everything.
Speaker 2: Man. But guess what. Guess who they're not cheering for?
Speaker 2: The quarterback Mike White because all of us know Mike White,
Speaker 2: like I know, like twenty Mike White's.
Speaker 5: I got a couple of Mike White for friends.
Speaker 3: I think about it my whole I homeboy X teammate
Speaker 3: Rock cot Right, his real name is Roderick Rock has
Speaker 3: a more. Yes, it has something to it, man, guys
Speaker 3: we played.
Speaker 1: You should just be Mike Evans publicist.
Speaker 2: We should have changed his name to Mikyle something.
Speaker 3: Evans, am I Evans, am I Evans like.
Speaker 1: Right there, Todd girly like certain names with you, because
Speaker 1: I don't understand people put that he's one of the best.
Speaker 1: He's maybe the best receiver of the generation, and people
Speaker 1: don't talk about him. And maybe Tampa Bay's a small market.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Julio Jones was in Atlanta. That's some
Speaker 2: that ain't big name Jones.
Speaker 3: Who you got Julio were gonna pray for you, Tyreek.
Speaker 2: Heel like they got some to it the threat.
Speaker 1: So hopefully our our receivers are giving our dbs are
Speaker 1: giving him his due respect even though he's got a
Speaker 1: regular name.
Speaker 2: Yea, we need Mike.
Speaker 1: Mike all right now for our final segment. And I'm
Speaker 1: excited to do this segment because it's different than our
Speaker 1: former game predictions, which were tough sometimes. So we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Santana hated it, hell no.
Speaker 1: So hell yeah, hell no. So I'm gonna read a
Speaker 1: question and you say, in order to win the game,
Speaker 1: do we need to do.
Speaker 5: The x Okay okay, and.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say hell yeah or hell all right, this
Speaker 1: defense should not allow more than twenty one points and
Speaker 1: have at least two turnovers. Do they need to do
Speaker 1: that to win the games.
Speaker 2: We are playing them on the road. Anything over twenty nine?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hurt.
Speaker 1: Dude, I mean obviously if okay, this is the thing
Speaker 1: about this this When we did our proctire meeting the
Speaker 1: show may Nuts, I didn't say this.
Speaker 2: I kept it inside. You didn't know what the difference
Speaker 2: left it.
Speaker 1: No, for me, I'm like, yeah, obviously, if they score,
Speaker 1: if they score less than twenty one points and we
Speaker 1: have two turnovers, hell yeah, we're gonna win the game.
Speaker 1: But do we need it to win the game?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah?
Speaker 4: So let me let me go back there, let me
Speaker 4: backtrack a little bit. Hell no, we don't need it
Speaker 4: to win, yeah, because we could score twenty But I
Speaker 4: would but I would love to.
Speaker 2: I would love it out.
Speaker 1: Like it would secure to win, Like I Forbes had
Speaker 1: a pick and then like the ball gets hipped up open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that gives us a chance to win.
Speaker 1: Got a chance to play some ball though, No, But
Speaker 1: do I want to see it?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, I'm going yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: All right, this one, this one's okay. Brian Robinson needs
Speaker 1: at least fifty yards rushing. Hell yeah, this feels.
Speaker 2: Like a hell yeah.
Speaker 3: I say hell yeah, because he's fifty hurt different than
Speaker 3: everybody else fifty. The way he leans on us defensive backs,
Speaker 3: Like we could take it to first quarter, second quarter,
Speaker 3: we fine, third and the fourth we start to olay.
Speaker 2: And when you start to olay, you making business to see.
Speaker 4: If he's here's I say, hell yeah. For simple fact,
Speaker 4: if if he has fifty or more than we in
Speaker 4: good hands and we took.
Speaker 2: It out of jayde hands, and that's what I want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like kind of like a canary in the coal
Speaker 1: mine type thing, right, Like it's like a signal of
Speaker 1: something else. It means if he's getting fifteen carries, we've
Speaker 1: been on the field for a bunch of first downs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we protected the quarterback, protecting the quarterback in
Speaker 4: the room, you know far as I guess you can
Speaker 4: say possession, you know, holding the ball, We're keeping them
Speaker 4: just running that clock.
Speaker 5: You know, he got that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like I just thought of this right now.
Speaker 1: Is there a number of rushing yards that's too much
Speaker 1: for Jayde Daniels in week one.
Speaker 2: Is there ain't such thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying if he's getting too many touches.
Speaker 3: I can't say that because it's the same guy watched
Speaker 3: break a ninety yard against Florida.
Speaker 5: So man, just run his attempts.
Speaker 4: You gotta kind of night let him happen because some
Speaker 4: of the times now now we're trying to run him then, yeah,
Speaker 4: so we run. If we're forcing design runs, design runs, yeah, multiple,
Speaker 4: like five or more.
Speaker 5: Come on, cod, we're doing too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But if he's just breaking out the pocket and
Speaker 3: get out of there, play break down, it's totally different.
Speaker 3: That breaks defensive backs. Like when y'all when the quarterback
Speaker 3: runs like that and it's like thirty five and he ran.
Speaker 2: Just watch our head. Our head just shakes.
Speaker 1: There was one thing about like when Michael Vick played Eference, like, oh,
Speaker 1: if he had design runs, he'd be so much better.
Speaker 1: I always felt get him an empty no, run him out,
Speaker 1: run vertical and let that.
Speaker 2: Man just let him take off.
Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like that's better because the
Speaker 1: defense isn't ready for it.
Speaker 2: No, we're not all right.
Speaker 1: Terry needs over sixty receiving yards.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, No, hell no, hell no, I don't think
Speaker 3: we need that to win. Because if you're spreading it
Speaker 3: out and four of my guys got fit five yards
Speaker 3: a piece.
Speaker 4: I say, I say, hell yeah, we don't need it
Speaker 4: to win. But I think we needed to offensively be
Speaker 4: doing what we're doing. Like I said, it's two guys
Speaker 4: in that offense that I want.
Speaker 5: To see produce.
Speaker 4: Have a good production that day is winning in a
Speaker 4: run game, b Rob and Terry in the pass game,
Speaker 4: because you got you got to get your guys active.
Speaker 4: You got to make sure that that because if those
Speaker 4: guys have their yards, then offensive media, we're doing our job.
Speaker 4: We're we're putting up points, we're moving the ball. If
Speaker 4: they have their yards. If you saying it spread it
Speaker 4: out and we're still doing that, then hey, I'm not
Speaker 4: mad at you, but I feel you still you have
Speaker 4: to have those guys active and doing what they're supposed
Speaker 4: to be doing.
Speaker 3: I feel like if I got sixty five plus yards
Speaker 3: from all of my tight ends I got after backfield
Speaker 3: with Austin Eckler with fifty plus return I mean receiving
Speaker 3: yours him and b Rob, I got on an average
Speaker 3: of forty yards with three four wire receivers or two
Speaker 3: wide receivers.
Speaker 2: I think we can get the win.
Speaker 3: I just always feel like me a corner if somebody
Speaker 3: trying to force it to one player, we play better
Speaker 3: that way. I think we always play better that way,
Speaker 3: because you mean, I was talking about sliding this safety.
Speaker 3: If I know y'all gonna give if we're gonna get
Speaker 3: Terry fifteen attempts, we're gonna play around him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now.
Speaker 3: It's gonna let the guy on the backside gotta do
Speaker 3: his job one on one. But I just think spreading
Speaker 3: it out make that defense make us honest.
Speaker 2: But you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't take what I'm saying wrong. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: no force it or try to lean on him. I'm
Speaker 4: just saying, if you're getting if he has those kind
Speaker 4: of yards, then offensively, like with both of those guys,
Speaker 4: either one of them, if b Rob has more than
Speaker 4: fifty something yards rushing, we in good hands offensively. Now
Speaker 4: you know that if somebody on that team has sicken
Speaker 4: over the game and we're not worrying about Jaden being
Speaker 4: a savior, you know what I mean, He's just he's
Speaker 4: giving the ball to the play makes and letting them
Speaker 4: do their thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, the fifty or the sixty receiving yards
Speaker 1: is more of an indication of Cliff finding matchups and
Speaker 1: like making sure the guy you guys getting touches. I
Speaker 1: think that's more what It's what I would kind of
Speaker 1: point that to. It's the same thing would be rob
Speaker 1: like if he's getting like, you know, fifteen touches fifty yards,
Speaker 1: Like I want to see a certain number of touches
Speaker 1: for those guys, especially week one.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You got a guy like that.
Speaker 1: You know, Terry is like the best receiver on the team.
Speaker 1: He can win one on one matchups, so much of
Speaker 1: what Cliff's offenses is predicated on him is finding a
Speaker 1: good matchup and then exploiting it. I think I think
Speaker 1: it'll be a really good sign of a good game
Speaker 1: plan from Cliff. And that's more what I'm excited to see.
Speaker 2: Do you need I mean, you don't need it?
Speaker 1: So shoot, I don't need Brian Robinson a rush.
Speaker 2: Do you need Jalen does it?
Speaker 1: Like that's a different thing, you know, and so or
Speaker 1: maybe we get we run a lot of screens, or
Speaker 1: maybe it's a quick game, Like you don't need any
Speaker 1: of these things. But I do think there's a health
Speaker 1: to the offense that these statistics would show potentially, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. All right, this is an interesting one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is a producer, Jason just throwing a curveball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he does.
Speaker 1: Is is this a must win game for Jaden's confidence?
Speaker 2: Hell no? Hell noah?
Speaker 1: Why is it enough?
Speaker 2: Number? Yes.
Speaker 3: I want him to get his first win as quick
Speaker 3: as possible, Like for him to get that first win
Speaker 3: up and out the way, because I have seen roocky
Speaker 3: quarterbacks chase that first win.
Speaker 2: I just seen guys get the.
Speaker 1: Way you think start pressing.
Speaker 3: Yes, then he'll started playing out of character and trying
Speaker 3: to be the hero. I don't want him to be
Speaker 3: the hero. I want him to go and get there.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I won my first game. Not let me
Speaker 3: just get better each and every game. I just think,
Speaker 3: and you know how the media can do a narrative.
Speaker 2: So if the.
Speaker 3: Narrative go when it's the first win ever coming, it
Speaker 3: starts to just blink down, eat down, He'll So I
Speaker 3: just think it's for his confidence and for that to
Speaker 3: never be a story.
Speaker 4: Lie. Yeah, I'm just against it. I don't think he
Speaker 4: needs it to have called. I think he's one of
Speaker 4: those guys. He's a headstrong kid. He seemed like a
Speaker 4: guy that has a different kind of demean and he's
Speaker 4: not finna be too much pressing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like you see guys that press and you get nothing
Speaker 4: out of pressing. I mean, that's why I hate it
Speaker 4: being one of those guys that you try to force me.
Speaker 4: I used to tell coach, look, I'm not open, don't
Speaker 4: throw me the ball, but don't don't don't. I'm never
Speaker 4: coming to the quarterback saying, bro, don't meet the ball. No,
Speaker 4: I don't want him trying to force it to force
Speaker 4: it to me.
Speaker 2: So it's happened.
Speaker 4: When I look at a guy like Jaden, I don't
Speaker 4: see him as one of those kind of guys.
Speaker 5: Just his demeanor alone, and uh.
Speaker 4: I don't think he needs I think he understands the game.
Speaker 4: You know, and you understand this, We all understand this.
Speaker 4: It's not him that would be losing.
Speaker 5: I know that. I know the media always drove.
Speaker 4: That throw that at the quarter where he lost, Like
Speaker 4: I hear all the time, that hasn't won a playoff game.
Speaker 5: No, the Cowboys have doesn't want to playoff game.
Speaker 4: Now, I understand when you're saying that he's put him
Speaker 4: in a situation that's for him to lose, But I
Speaker 4: don't think we need I don't think Jaden necessarily needs
Speaker 4: this this win or it's a must win for his
Speaker 4: confidence to be shook or nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, but I also think Fred
Speaker 1: and I don't like doing this. But I kind of
Speaker 1: agree with what you said too, Like, I think that's
Speaker 1: a really good Yeah, you don't want them to press
Speaker 1: so if it, and I think the coaching staff, I
Speaker 1: think the team around him is strong enough to kind
Speaker 1: of help insulate him. But yeah, you want it, you
Speaker 1: don't want to press at all? Before we wrap wrap
Speaker 1: up anything else you want to bring up about this
Speaker 1: game that you're keeping an eye on.
Speaker 3: It's just something about Tempa in Washington. I feel like
Speaker 3: we played them every year of my career. I feel
Speaker 3: like every first game of the season.
Speaker 2: Were you part of that Tempa?
Speaker 1: Were part of that game where they comment the Washington
Speaker 1: team lost on a two point conversion by Mike all Scott.
Speaker 2: Were you on that team? I was on that team? Wow,
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Listen two teams we played that ain't in that division
Speaker 3: that I just feel like we merit to the hit
Speaker 3: with Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2: In Seattle Seaofen, we played him no metal what true.
Speaker 4: I've always had good outs against Tempa, so hopefully yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I always had good ols against because of Key Shun
Speaker 4: and risk Gotta.
Speaker 3: You had this this this big old why receive I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: big receivers don't cause me no problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't got nothing to bring to attention.
Speaker 4: I just hope you go out there and to have
Speaker 4: a good one.
Speaker 2: Thought I wanted.
Speaker 4: I want to I want to see what I've been
Speaker 4: waiting on to see. Man, a great team effort, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Those guys going out to fly
Speaker 4: around on in all phases.
Speaker 3: Man, any rookie besides Jaden that you want to see
Speaker 3: welcome themselves because I.
Speaker 5: Want to see that zero agent zero.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to introduce the world to Mike Sandersteal.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait. Yeah, think about you in a Rooki
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: I want to see Tyler Owns on teams like he
Speaker 1: was so dominant in the preseason, like you so dominant.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him play. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with Tanna, Like I've been waiting for this for
Speaker 1: so long. We've covered the you know, Adam Peters, dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: the hiring and the draft, the from agency, and now
Speaker 1: it's here, and I just want to see those dudes
Speaker 1: run around like a bunch of crazy dogs like they
Speaker 1: did against the Jets in their first preseason, Like I
Speaker 1: want to see that. Let him go eat, But that's
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