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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Missed in History Class from how

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm fair Dowdy and I'm de blaney Chuk Reboarding and

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Speaker 1: where we left up. Last time, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: a story from the Old Western Frontier, specifically talking about

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Speaker 1: Cynthia Ann Parker and her son, Kwanta Parker, who was

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Speaker 1: the last Comanche chief. And um, it's been a sad

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Speaker 1: story so far, one that we really kicked off with

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Speaker 1: Cynthia Anne's own kidnapping when she was only nine years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: focusing mostly on her life and what happened after that kidnapping.

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Speaker 1: She was taken from her Texas family home. She and

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Speaker 1: her brother and some more of her relatives, and while

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Speaker 1: most of them were ransomed back, she never surfaced. They

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Speaker 1: were never able to get her back or to find her,

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Speaker 1: as she was just sort of off to them even

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Speaker 1: even hear a word of her until the mid eighteen

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Speaker 1: forties when reports of her started to pop up, and

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Speaker 1: soon enough the picture was pretty clear she was alive

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Speaker 1: and well and was in fact living as a Commanche.

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Speaker 1: She had been raised by Comanche parents. She eventually went

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Speaker 1: on to marry a Comanche war chief named Petta Nakana,

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Speaker 1: who was interestingly also her captor um and had two

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Speaker 1: sons with him, Kwana and Peanut, and a daughter named

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Speaker 1: Prairie Flower. And Um by all accounts, seemed to be

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Speaker 1: completely content with her life, which was clearly something that

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Speaker 1: disturbed the other settlers. They did sort of learn of

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Speaker 1: her whereabouts and tried to ransom her back like they

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Speaker 1: did the other relatives. And she would not go. No,

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Speaker 1: she wouldn't go. And her people said, you cannot, You'd

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Speaker 1: have to kill us. You cannot take her. We will

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Speaker 1: not ransom her for any sum um. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that would be relieving to hear that

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Speaker 1: she was alive to her family, But most people were

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Speaker 1: were concerned about the news because here was this woman,

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Speaker 1: you know, she had been kidnapped as a child, and

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Speaker 1: she was happy in her new life. She was happy

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Speaker 1: living among the Comanche. She had no wish to return

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Speaker 1: to her life with the settlers. So where we left off, specifically, though,

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Speaker 1: Cynthia Anne was going back, whether she liked it or not.

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Speaker 1: She had just been recaptured. Yeah, she had been recaptured

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Speaker 1: She was very sad because she felt that her or

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Speaker 1: she knew in her heart that her husband and her

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Speaker 1: sons had been killed. Yeah, she believed that they had.

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Speaker 1: Both both her sons and her husband had been killed

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Speaker 1: husband and sons were murdered, she was entirely miserable in

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Speaker 1: this new situation. She tried to escape repeatedly from her

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Speaker 1: from her family. And what makes it all the more

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Speaker 1: sad is that she wasn't allowed to well, she wasn't

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Speaker 1: allowed to go back to her people, clearly, but she

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Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to leave or lead a retiring life either.

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Speaker 1: She was put into the public eye because of course,

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Speaker 1: she had been a well known person since her kidnapping

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Speaker 1: at age nine. I mean, she we mentioned in the

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Speaker 1: would warn their children, don't wander too far from the

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Speaker 1: the news of her recapture was huge all over papers nationwide,

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Speaker 1: being incredibly helpful during this time. For example, she could

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Speaker 1: She was said to have slashed herself in a comanche

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Speaker 1: switch from Cynthia Anne's life and look at Quanta and

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Speaker 1: and his brother. We know, we're not sure exactly. We

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Speaker 1: We're not exactly certain what happened to Cynthia Anne's husband,

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Speaker 1: He died of smallpox. And Quanta came out of this

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Speaker 1: Quanta said a couple of years later, right, but he

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Speaker 1: came out of it a competent warrior. He was strong

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Speaker 1: His first major raid in eighteen sixty eight at age twenty,

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Speaker 1: In fact, Quanta arrived back at camp on foot, which

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Speaker 1: Quanta didn't participate in what most people would consider war atrocities,

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Speaker 1: And SD Gwen, the author of Empire of the Summer Moon,

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Speaker 1: Regardless though, of what Quanta did on these raids specifically,

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Speaker 1: So clearly they were a target in addition to being

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Speaker 1: and it's also right when Kuana was becoming a big

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