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Speaker 1: But as I said, today is part two of our

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Speaker 1: Group of five preview. On the previous episode, we went

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Speaker 1: But today we're going to be focused specifically on those

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Speaker 1: three conferences. Much like the last episode. Didn't have a

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Speaker 1: you've got something to add to the conversation. Uh, without

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Speaker 1: So again it's all about feeling dangerous, Dan. Yeah. Now

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Speaker 2: That's totally true, totally true. Schedules tricky, especially like there's

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Speaker 1: Do you feel similarly, though, like are you? Yeah? What

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Speaker 2: it's going to be more offense than defense. There's not

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Speaker 1: it's not a unique thing to any of these teams.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be the craziest landing

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Speaker 1: What's your read on Wyoming now under j Solvel new coach.

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Speaker 2: I think the best that they can hope for and

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Speaker 2: why don't we just always going to be that hard

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Speaker 2: so I think it's going to take some time to rebuild,

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Speaker 2: I think the best they can hope for in year

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Speaker 1: They host Boise State, by the way, and Thanksgiving weekend

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Speaker 2: I feel like we mentioned that on the last episode

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Speaker 2: It's icy trap, that's all it is.

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Speaker 1: i struggle With wyoming this year BECAUSE i think there's

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Speaker 2: a ton of new, players will get. There San Diego

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Speaker 1: Good near. One you mentioned Air force only six returning.

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Speaker 2: Starters, yeah really fell off a cliff when what was

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Speaker 1: saturday night after the, games and there was a few

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Speaker 1: Down so this year now was so many new out.

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Speaker 2: i still just on benefit of the, doubt give Air

431
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: force at the very Least bowl, Consideration commander In chief trophy,

432
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: consideration and no way in hell If i'm any of

433
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: those defenses that has a ways to, go DO i

434
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: want to see the.

435
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: FALCONS i would agree with that.

436
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: Soul even if it's a down seven to five type.

437
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 2: Year they're going to be such a bitch to play.

438
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: Against Colorado.

439
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: State Colorado state's the last team on this list before

440
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: we get into the five with new coaches or five

441
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: other ones with new. COACHES i should say, Yeah but

442
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: in terms of where they slot here in our Dangered,

443
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: Tears Colorado state was sort of middle of the. PACK

444
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: i look at this, TEAM i could see a jump

445
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: coming year three For Jane norvel. LIKE i like their.

446
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: Quarterback he threw for thirty four hundred yards last, year

447
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: could be one of the best quarterbacks in the. CONFERENCE

448
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: i Like Jane. Norvell i've always Liked Jane. NOVEL i

449
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: think he's a good. Coach That colorado game last, year,

450
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: aside WHICH i thought was pretty, dirty frankly on The

451
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: Colorado state, side.

452
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: But they like THE, dB the corner whoever who Knocked

453
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: Travis hunter, out they, like they made. Up they went

454
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 2: bowling like you sort of it, explained yeah that it

455
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: was not. Intentional it was just sort of heat of competitive.

456
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: Passion SO i Don't i'm, SAYING i don't want to

457
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: Label Colorado state as dirty based on that one.

458
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: Game NO i. THOUGHT i thought it was a great

459
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: second act and a gazillion people watched that, video AND

460
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: i thought it was cool that they did. IT i

461
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: THINK i think it was big OF i And Travis, hunter,

462
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: yeah both of, them to do it, actually and it

463
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: definitely quelled a lot of the angst around that whole.

464
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: Situation So i'm optimistic generally About Colorado state And i've

465
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: always been because it's a it's an institution that doesn't

466
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: mind spending on. Football they obviously take it very. Seriously

467
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: it's just going to take them a little bit to

468
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: get back to WHERE i think they want to. Be

469
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: SO i could see maybe that jump happening this, year

470
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: not such that they're going to win the, conference but

471
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: definitely more that we're we're talking About Colorado state in

472
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a different.

473
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: Light so you you say something, like you, KNOW i

474
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: always have like a soft spot in my heart For Colorado.

475
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: State in my mind WHEN i think About Colorado, STATE

476
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: i think about a group of saying to each, OTHER.

477
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: I guess we should Hire Steven. AZZIO i guess that's the. Move, yes,

478
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: everybody we're all in agreement, Here Steve. DAZOS i Like

479
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: jay norvellmore THAN i Like Stephen.

480
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: Azio so, Yes i'm. Hopeful it's a cool. Place it's

481
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: a relatively new. STADIUM i hope for a fun. Offense

482
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: they have a ways to, go but it would a

483
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: decent or pretty Good Colorado, state even going back to

484
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: like The jim mckalwain, time would provide The Mountain west

485
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: with a level of depth that would make them that

486
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: much more. Entertaining So i'm, hopeful BUT i still think

487
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: it's going to take a.

488
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: Minute we've got five teams left, Here Sandy, State San Jose,

489
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: State Utah, State New, mexico And. NEVADA i look at,

490
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: THIS i, say, Well nevada's under a big. Rebuild first

491
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: year head Coach Jeff. Choate Jeff choate coming. Over he

492
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: was a CO dc At texas for the last three.

493
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: Years he's got his work cut out for.

494
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: Him, yeah he was a head coach AT i Think

495
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: Montana state, Before, yes The texas. Job, yeah he has

496
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: head coaching, experience that's.

497
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: Correct so he's new in the. Conference he's got a big.

498
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: Rebuild Bronco, mendenhall after an extended absence from college, football

499
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: is back now With New. Mexico i'm not gonna say

500
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: it's a, rebuild but he's got a very young, team

501
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: very young team that he's going to have to work.

502
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: With Utah states a terrible. Situation that's just a bad

503
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: situation for the players and for the. Team Blake anderson

504
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: out just a few weeks. Ago there's all sorts of

505
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: strife going on within that athletic. DEPARTMENT i can't imagine

506
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: that's a good, situation even with a lot back this.

507
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: Season you know what their quarterback room looks.

508
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: Like It's Spencer petris in From, Iowa It's bryce And

509
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: barnes in From, utah relatively, Local Jacob conover who was AT. Asu,

510
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: like they have big program guys who were pretty mixed

511
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: at those big. Programs and SO i don't Know Utah

512
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 2: state was in the did they win the? Conference it's

513
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: like three years, ago two years. Ago so it's a different.

514
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 2: Coach it's an interim. Situation the interim was not on staff.

515
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: Before i'm hopeful for everybody At Utah state that had

516
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: nothing to do with anything that Got Blake anderson fired

517
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: that maybe they can muster like A David brawn, situation

518
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: thrust into that position late as an, outsider and sort

519
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: of use that to rally. Everybody BUT i don't know

520
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: the depths to which it was a cultural issue With Blake.

521
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: Anderson there's a lot has not come out about at

522
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: the time of our recording about how that. Ended but

523
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: the best Of Utah state recently has been.

524
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: Interesting and then the other two schools with new coaches

525
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: Now San Diego state Was Sean, lewis who Leaves colorado

526
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: under weird, circumstances sort of was. Demoted i'm assuming he

527
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: just didn't Want Shador sanders throwing for a thousand yards a. Game,

528
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: yeah he is taking over At San Diego. State tough,

529
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: schedule not a lot of, experience BUT i think the

530
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: prospect of A Sean lewis offense is at least. Fun

531
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: it'll make GOOD. Tv and then to close things, out

532
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: It's San Jose State San, jose Like Brent brennan left

533
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: to go To. Arizona San Jose state's not going a

534
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: bowl game this year or. Not BUT i am curious

535
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: to see what Ken neamadalola looks like when he's not

536
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: running the, option which is sort of the big headline with,

537
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: This like it's going to feel like you AND i

538
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: are living on a different timeline without him the. Option

539
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: IF i had told you in two thousand and eight

540
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: that you were effortlessly Saying Ken neomodelolo's last, name.

541
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: Not only DID i NEVER i could spell, IT i

542
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: know you're you're a hell of a, Guy, tye thank

543
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: you a hell of a. Guy the only Thing i'll

544
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: say Is San Diego state to me has a world

545
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: of potential If Sean lewis is able to sort of

546
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: galvanize the you, know the football behind the, scenes money,

547
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: wise a new. STADIUM i just think there are going

548
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: to be so Many Southern california players And West coast

549
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: players and wist sit pack twelve wamp Wamp West coast

550
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: players is looking for a portal home or. Whatever And

551
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: Fresno state has been a very successful beneficiary of. That

552
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: some of the smaller big, schools you, know You're arizona

553
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: whoever on The West coast have. Benefited BUT i don't,

554
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: know if you can Get San Diego state going and

555
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: you have a fun offense Like Sean lewis definitely has

556
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: had at previous, stops they bring in what it's Aj

557
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: duffy from from Northern california who is At Florida. State

558
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: he should be the new starting. Quarterback, LIKE i don't,

559
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: KNOW i see a lot ahead Of San Diego state that's,

560
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: positive especially zagging after so many years of like The

561
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: Rocky long defense and you, know the best of The

562
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: Brady hope defenses and. Stuff they won in a very,

563
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: specific not terribly entertaining. Way if they can sort of

564
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: flip that script a little. BIT i think there's there's

565
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 2: flash possibility.

566
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: Anything else on the Mount. West, no it's another one

567
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: of those.

568
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: Conferences AND i mentioned this With CONFERENCE, usa where our

569
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: familiarity with the coaches and personalities and systems outside of

570
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: Whatever Kenya monilola's offense is going to look like this,

571
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: HERE i think makes it exceedingly. WATCHABLE i also always

572
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: get excited about talking about, altitude WHICH i still say

573
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: offers like a wild card element to a lot of these.

574
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: GAMES i guess from the west portion of The Mountain,

575
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: west and we're divisionless now right within The Mountain, west,

576
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 2: YEP i, believe so that changes some. Calculus i'm very.

577
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: EXCITED i think there's a lot of potential for fun.

578
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: Here we got no, food we got no. Jobs The,

579
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: mac let's talk The, Mac Dan, rubinstein the big Old.

580
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: Mac let's do. It here's what's interesting about the. Back

581
00:30:52,920 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: IF i can get sentimental bit with, You, okay The

582
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: mac is A Kirk farren's fever, dream as in like A.

583
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: Nightmary it is a truly terrible offensive. Conference oh.

584
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: Okay he dreams of a place where he can be

585
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: amongst his own.

586
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: Unlike Anything i've seen in a long. Time, Okay Bill,

587
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: connelly our FRIEND espn does great. Work he projects at

588
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: the best offense in THE mac will Be Bowling, green

589
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: and That Bowling green will be the ninety first best

590
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: offense in the. Country all. Right ten of the twelve

591
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: teams in this conference are projected to have an offense

592
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: graded one hundred and tenth or. Worse. Jesus, Okay so

593
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: that's WHEN i took a step, back And i'm, like you,

594
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: know there's some beauty in, this isn't? There? Sure because

595
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: everbody's playing on the same. Level, YEAH i feel like

596
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: watching THE mac is like the college football equivalent of

597
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: deleting your social media accounts and just sort of enjoying

598
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: the world without all that excess. Noise because we're in

599
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: a world now where everything seems to be clumping more

600
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: and more together on the college football side of. Things

601
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: THE mac is in its own little, bubble AND i

602
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of charm to. That it's

603
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: just self. Contained it's beautiful football in its own. Right

604
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't always need to be. Pretty there's a reason

605
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: THAT i didn't include any of these teams in MY

606
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: g five playoff. Tier but that's, okay, Right, yeah it

607
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: is what it, is and it's proud of.

608
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: That you can have Your tuesdays With, MAURY i will

609
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: Do wednesdays With Connor bezlac.

610
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: Exactly, okay, Exactly and more to the point of bucking,

611
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: trends THE mac is relatively unchanged over the last twenty five.

612
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: Years that's, true adding You mass next, YEAR U mass next.

613
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: Year but the membership right now is basically the same

614
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: as it was twenty five years ago in nineteen ninety.

615
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: Nine there have been a few minor, changes right they're

616
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: also ditching. Divisions they're going to a pod, system so four,

617
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: pods three teams. Each it's not unlike what we've seen.

618
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: Elsewhere they're they're doing it in part to protect the

619
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: rivalries and give teams more access to other teams in the,

620
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: conference what have. You but it's a relatively stable. Conference

621
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: there's only one new coach this. Year petelembo takes over

622
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: For Ball. State he takes over At Buffalo. Buffalo, SORRY i, said,

623
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: yeah you're good.

624
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: Because Mo linguist went To bama late in the As

625
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: kaitlin De borrer hired.

626
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: Him. Yeah so with all that being, said and we

627
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: alluded to this a little bit on some of our previous.

628
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: EPISODES i think the two teams to beat Are Miami

629
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: ohio And. Toledo it feels Like toledo's always in. There

630
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: Miami ohio doesn't always play a beautiful brand of, football

631
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: but they are more often than not pretty. Stable, yeah

632
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: and at least in that in that top.

633
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: Tier Guy Chuck martin been that part in nineteen eighty. One,

634
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah Chuck martin still.

635
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: There. Yeah outside of those, two, though you've got a

636
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: medy middle Of Northern illinois And Bowling green And Western

637
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: michigan And ohio that are Probably ohio, too that are

638
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: interesting for a couple of. Reasons and then you've got

639
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: a bigger clump of six teams In, Buffalo eastern And Central,

640
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: Michigan Ball, State Kent, state And akron that it's just

641
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: not happening for. Them, okay let me start With Miami. Ohio,

642
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: Okay miami O high is interesting to me for a

643
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: whole host of. Reasons eleven to. Three last year they

644
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: Beat toledo in the conference. Championship they lost to App

645
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: state in The Cure. Bowl also of, note a matching

646
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: eleven and three against the points. Bread for those of

647
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: you who care about such. Things MIAMI O high was

648
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: very good against The Points bread last. Year they will

649
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: not win eleven games against this. SEASON i don't think

650
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: they're strong enough on offense to get back. There they're

651
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: also guaranteed at lea two losses on the road this,

652
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: year At miami and At cincinnati in the first three

653
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: weeks of the. Season i'm not crazy About. Cincinnati cincinnati's

654
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: not losing at home to this. Team all, right you

655
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: put that one in the. Well i'm not going to

656
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: smoke the. Thing but you can put that one and

657
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: take a toe if you. Want. Sure but all that,

658
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: SAID i, repeat the point of THE mac is what

659
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: happens within THE. Mac and to that, End miami is

660
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: the clear best returning team this. Season they're dangerous because

661
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: they've got the best quarterback and defense in the. Conference

662
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: it's like The Dan rubinstein rubric to a. T Nice

663
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Brett gabbard is still there and if he stays, healthy

664
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: he's got a shot at eclipsing ten thousand passing, yard

665
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: which is. Cool. Great he's got four guys back up,

666
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: front definitely. Helpful it's just a matter of finding. Playmakers

667
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: they lost for Shot. Amos he went To Old miss

668
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: the running back went To old Miss, yeah someone really

669
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: needs to step up and give them some pop up

670
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: on the. Ground they're also dangerous because of that, defense

671
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: which again clear class of the. Conference it was a

672
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: top twenty opponent ofsted defense last. Year this Year i'd

673
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: be around the same got most of the front, seven,

674
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: Back Brian, ugu their edge rusher whose NAME i had

675
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: to look up how to say, it eight sacks last.

676
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: Year the secondary is a. Concern they'll figure that. Out

677
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: but the reason that you would Doubt miami.

678
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: A most To colorado by the way To Mississippi state

679
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: and Then, Colorado, yeah my.

680
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: Bad. Yeah the reason they're not dangerous is because of

681
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: how they. Play this is not a team built to

682
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: blow anyone out, ever even with a veteran quarterback Like. Gabbert,

683
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: yeah it's just sort of always been that way Under Chuck.

684
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: Martin been to A bowl game seven of the last eight.

685
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: Years he's wildly successful. There it's just never pretty like

686
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna lead with. Defense are you calling him la

687
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: Gear Kirk Farens is that what you're? SAYING i am

688
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: kind am dan all. Right like a lot of rock,

689
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: fights a lot of games where you don't leave yourself

690
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: much margin for, air but still he finds the way

691
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: to get the job. Done he won eleven games last.

692
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 2: Year you're leaving out my favorite low key off season,

693
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: storyline and it happens to Involve Miami. Ohio miami had

694
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: The Lou Groza award winning kicker from last, season, right

695
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 2: they had the best kicker in the, Sport and at

696
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: some point during the winter, PORTAL i think he got.

697
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: OFFERED i think a lot of money, ALLEGEDLY i don't

698
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: know if it Was oregon Or, texas somebody, big somebody

699
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: that had the money to throw, around that needed a,

700
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: kicker and they're, like this guy's, available this guy's, eligibility

701
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: let's throw a bunch of money at like this absolute

702
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: boot of a. Kicker AND i Apparently miami like found

703
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 2: money to sort of keep their golden boot guy. Around

704
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: and then the spring portal opened In alabama was, like,

705
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: yeah we're taking.

706
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: Him alabama got.

707
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: Them so whatever you feel About miami Of ohio's, offense

708
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: they are down an absolute it's air of a leg

709
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: In Graham nicholson is What i'm.

710
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: Saying by the, way Rashad amos did commit To Mississippi. State,

711
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: yeah and did commit To, colorado but is now with

712
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: Old miss Oh he is the triple. PLAYER i stand. Corrected,

713
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: okay love. It what a time to be. Alive, yeah on,

714
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: tour on, tour yeah, yeah all. Right so if it's

715
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Not Miami ohio for, you if you're not a A

716
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: Miami Ohio, redhawk h perhaps you're A Toledo. Rocket another

717
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: team that went eleven to three last. Season they almost Beat.

718
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: Illinois In week, one they scored seventy one points Against Texas.

719
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Southern In week, two they Beat Miami ohio in the regular,

720
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: season lost to him in the conference. Championship lost The

721
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Arizona bowl To wyoming sixteen to, fifteen a very ugly.

722
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: GAME i remember watching that game in the highlights like

723
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: a terrible. Watch terrible but, Alas, yes we haven't added

724
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: on this show from the wise Profit, Ashanti it's about, trust.

725
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: Babe mm. Hmm that's the BEST i can do for

726
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: WHY i Think toledo is dangerous this. Year we just

727
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: trust That Jason kandall and this team will find a

728
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: way to be one of the best two teams in the,

729
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: conference as they have been for pretty much the last.

730
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: Decade they just are always there and it's still kind

731
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: of operating under The Jason kandall. Philosophy they it's a

732
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: defense that leads the way at defense that has trended

733
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: better and better over the last few. SEASONS a well coached,

734
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: team especially in a conference like THE, mac goes a long. Way. Yes.

735
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Agree my questions, though are what they look like, otherwise

736
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: because they are completely hollowed out in many, respects like

737
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: Only ohio lost more returning production Than toledo this. Season

738
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: To Kwan, finn the quarterback he's At, baylor just four

739
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: starters back on. Offense they're all, Wideouts quinn And, mitchell

740
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: who we mentioned last. Episode he was their leader on.

741
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: Defense he was a first round Pack chris McDonald the

742
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: standout defensive. Back he's in THE. Nfl Judge, culpepper great.

743
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Name nine sacks last, year also in THE. Nfl so

744
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: just four guys back on defense as. Well toledo's still

745
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: one of the best two. TEAMS i think the gap

746
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: has narrowed the season between them and the next, best

747
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: which PROBABLY niu Are Bowling. Green toledo will be there

748
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: at the end of the. Season they're probably gonna play

749
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: for the conference. Championship but how they kind of adjust

750
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: now TO i think like just basically nothing back will

751
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: be very interesting and instructive as for how we should

752
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: feel About Jason kandell moving.

753
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: Forward, YEAH i still consider them to be a co

754
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: favorite until proven.

755
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: Otherwise, YEAH i MENTIONED. NIU i think AN iu is

756
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: the next team up THAT i am interested. In seven

757
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: and six last, season open the year by Beating Boston.

758
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: College remember that was kind of a. Story, yeah very

759
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: streaky last. Season no More Rocky lombardi, though, Right no

760
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: More Rocky, lombardy which is saying which isn't saying a

761
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: whole lot because he wasn't that. Great he wasn't that.

762
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: Great so it's either going to Be Ethan hampton Or Jalen.

763
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: Macon Jalen macon is the guy Who i'm interested in

764
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: because transferred From Arkansas Pine. Bluff he's, huge a, big big.

765
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: Dude either one of those two guys is probably good

766
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: enough in their own right to reproduce what we saw

767
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: at quarterback last season For Rocky. Lombardi i'm pretty confident

768
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: that they're the next team up. Here they're similar To

769
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Bowling green in that there's a lot. Back five of

770
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: their six losses last year were by one. Score that

771
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: one game was Against. Nebraska they're dangerous because they're kind of.

772
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: Boring actually that's, why like they're going to run it

773
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: With Antario. Brown they've Got Grayson barnes's big tight end

774
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: who had over eighteen yards to catch last. Season they're

775
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: they're dangerous because they took a big jump forward on

776
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: defense last year and they got a lot. Back probably

777
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: won't be as good up, front but just just solid all.

778
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Around they're. Boring they go for the center of the

779
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: fairway and it works. Great if not them as the

780
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: next team, up it's it's Probably Bowling. Green they lost

781
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: by one. Point last. Year toledo Beat Georgia tech In,

782
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: atlanta lost To minnesota in The Quickling. Bowl they're interesting

783
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: because of their. Schedule they Play, fordham they Played TEXAS

784
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: a AND. M they Play Penn state in the first

785
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: three weeks of the. SEASON i like that you Included

786
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: fordham in that shout. Out, palaue, continue we are who

787
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: we are. Here we have to, Ourselves Dan, com you're the.

788
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: Completest they project probably is the best offense in the,

789
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: conference and they got something like eight starters. Back, again

790
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: not a conference defined by offense at, all and so

791
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: it truly is one of those situations where in the

792
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: land of the, blind the one eyed man Is King.

793
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: Bowling green's got that going. On on, offense you Mentioned Connor,

794
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: bezlak he is the. Quarterback they've got some interesting pieces

795
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: From terry And, stewart who's got some pop out, wide

796
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: To harold fannin, junior who's a flex guy who can you,

797
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: know play out wid or be a tight end a lot.

798
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Back on, defense led the nation in takeaways last. Season

799
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: they were really tough out on third, downs so they've

800
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: got that going for. Him they just the returning production

801
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: isn't there to make me feel better about. Them AND

802
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: i know that that's a stat doesn't necessarily guarantee improvement

803
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: one way or. Another but the line was not good

804
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: last season and needed far too many big plays to

805
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: hit in order to. Score success rates on offense were.

806
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: Low if they don't get better on the, LINE i

807
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: think that's a real point of.

808
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Concern CAN i ask you A Kent state? Question unless

809
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: you have, more no go, ahead. PLEASE i don't Have

810
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Kent state schedule in front of, me but every year

811
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: it's like my most beautiful art project looking at their.

812
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: Schedule it because the, schedule it's the same thing this.

813
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: Year because thing one year they had Like, Georgia, Oklahoma,

814
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Washington it's like that's Their september is? It this year

815
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: it's LIKE, Lsu oregon And.

816
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: Texas they're clearly using this non conference slate to fund

817
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: the entire Athletic of, course of, course who do they?

818
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: Have who do they do? This they're at pitt they're

819
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: At tennessee and they're At Penn. State beautiful work of.

820
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: Art love. It no Seeing Penn state back to back. Weeks,

821
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah ken was that. Money kent was one and eleven

822
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: last season Under Kenny. Burns he inherited the least experienced

823
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: team in college. Football so it shouldn't be a big

824
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: surprise they were. Bad they were starting over with the new. Quarterback,

825
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: Anyway they had zero returning starters on offense last, year

826
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: so a bad season was kind of. Unavoidable there are

827
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: nine starters back on offense this. Year is enough back on?

828
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: Defense maybe they take a jump. Forward that's the BEST

829
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: i can, do though there's still a year or two

830
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: away FROM i think getting out of the basement or basement. Adjacent,

831
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: okay and you, know while we're, here we can talk About.

832
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: Akron they're they're kind of in the same. Boat but

833
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: they've got your. Warhead, yeah they've Got joe. Moorehead so

834
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: you kind of never want to count Out joe moo

835
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think we respect his aptitude as a schemer

836
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: and as somebody who knows offensive, football AND i appreciate

837
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: the fact That i've read a lot Of, hey we

838
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: want to focus more on the offensive line this. Year

839
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: it was a huge issue last. Year but like the

840
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: offense is projected as the worst in college, football the

841
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: secondary could be really. Bad Ben finley's playing quarterback also

842
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: still in college. Football, interesting, interesting always, interesting but came

843
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: over With. Cal, yeah but you, know it's another situation

844
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: where there's just there are too many gaps to, plug

845
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: and DON'T i don't really like their their chances of

846
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: doing so in a Ball states kind of like hetering

847
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: on the brink of being pretty low on this tier

848
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: system as. Well the offense could get, better the defense

849
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: could be way. Worse, Right it's just, like will one

850
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: do enough to kind of mitigate the other remains to be.

851
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: SEEN i look At eastern And Central michigan, similarly the

852
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: stat of The year in THE. Mac this is the

853
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: ONE i referenced on the last. Episode are you ready

854
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: for this? One i've never. SEEN i have never seen

855
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: a stat this bonkers in my. Life Of Eastern michigan's

856
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: last eighty five, games sixty five of them have been

857
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: one possession. Contests, okay can you imagine what that's. Like

858
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: that is like being A nebraska fan of two years

859
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: ago and even last year to some. Extent but for

860
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: the last eight, Years, okay they exclusively play close, games

861
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: AND i think it's because of their, Coach Chris. CREIGHTON

862
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: i think is a good. Coach he is in year.

863
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Eleven he's got a shot at a fourth Straight bowl,

864
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: game which is pretty. Incredible and their defense will be all.

865
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: Right they've got enough on that side of the. Ball

866
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: their offense is like going full, control delete and just.

867
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: Rebooting they need to hit on a couple of transfers

868
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: in order to make it. Work but whenever you're playing

869
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: that many close games and still going to, BOWLS i

870
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: think that speaks to the. COACHING i think you're.

871
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: Right it also means That Chris creighton has basically built

872
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: a team good enough to not be blown, out but

873
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: not good enough to never blow out or not good

874
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: enough to blow.

875
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: It but It's Eastern. Michigan, yeah, WELL.

876
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: I, know like a totally dreadful, history and now that

877
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: they're competing to go to bowl, games it's.

878
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: Great And Central michigan's Under jim mckaway now year, six

879
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: which is like how old are? We another situation Whe

880
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: it's like they could get better with better quarterback play

881
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: if they if they if they put better quarterback play

882
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: behind an experience, line that could be a jump forward

883
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: and have some guys, back they could. Improve but improvement

884
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: here is almost exclusively dependent on the. Offense the offense

885
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: has to get, better and you would expect That jim

886
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: mcilwaine could make them better on. Offense but how well

887
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: would you?

888
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: Say how familiar would you say are you with the

889
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: depths of this? Roster AND i know your answer is

890
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: probably going to be not VERY i just want to

891
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: know if there's anybody that has a first name similar

892
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: To max with two, x's Like Max crosby FOR emu

893
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: or The alzheimer Broken Roeback corey m you are there

894
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: any broken adjacent first names on this?

895
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: ROCK i have not done that deep a. DIVE i can't.

896
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: Similarly the single best tweet or, whatever zet. Whatever this

897
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: is related of the early college football or the preseason

898
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: is When Roger sherman takes a deep dive into BYU's

899
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: roster and counts the total cadence And braden's and. Whatever

900
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: that's a, beautiful beautiful annual. Tradition but it, yeah it's a.

901
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Tradition on Uh. Pete lambo takes over At. BUFFALO i

902
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: like the. Hire it's a rebuilding, year big time At.

903
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo not ball. Stay AS i said, EARLIER i, apologize

904
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: but they have some interesting scenarios this year THAT i

905
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: think are are worth. Mentioning like they Get toledo at

906
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: home in a very obvious letdown spot For. Toledo it's

907
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: a week After toledo Plays Miami ohio And buffalo is

908
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: off a bye the week, before so they'll be ready

909
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: for that. Game the defense last year was. Stout there's

910
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: enough BACK i think to remain decent, offensively though they

911
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: lost every non offensive line. Starter now is that a big?

912
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: Deal probably. Not they're a terrible offense a. Year yeah,

913
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: No so starting a new is not it's it's it's,

914
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: okay it's not, ideal it's not the kind of thing

915
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: that's easy to, fix but it's at least a clean.

916
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: Slate let's say For Pete, lembo WHO i do like

917
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: AND i think can help turn that program. Around we

918
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: got two teams left Then i'm Listening Western michigan a

919
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: BRONCOS i Mentioned western a few episodes back as a

920
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: team that intrigues me in THE. Mac and this is

921
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: a question of how much returning production means to. You

922
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: what does that mean to, You dan in the wake

923
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: of a rebuilding, year because that's what last year. WAS

924
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: i think there's a case to be made That western

925
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: could be dangerous with what they have coming. Back Bill

926
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: connolly has often said for years that we've known. Him

927
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: now you, know sophomore has become. Juniors when you start,

928
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: young these guys grow up within the. System and now

929
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: they're twelfth in the nation returning. Production they got seventeen starters,

930
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: back a veteran, quarterback a leading, rusher leading. Receiver they're all.

931
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: Back the line should be, good also a tonback on.

932
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: Defense so the pieces are, there but the, schedule the

933
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: schedule makes your eyebrows go up a little. Bit like

934
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: they opened the year At wisconsin and At, Ohio state

935
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: and back to back. Weeks it starts off. Hot the, schedule,

936
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: though is more a story of who they don't. Play

937
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: they don't Play Miami, ohio they don't Play, toledo they

938
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: don't Play, ohio, right so they skirt some of those.

939
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: Teams my issue With western is that they lost eight

940
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: games last. Year seven of them were by at least thirteen.

941
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Points four were by at least twenty four. Points it's

942
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: not like they were. Close if they were, Closer i'd

943
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: feel better about them taking a jump this. Year if

944
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: they were In Eastern michigan losing a bunch of one score,

945
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: GAMES i feel. Better, right that's Not. WESTERN i just Wasn't.

946
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: Western SO i like the. PIECES i like what they

947
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: have coming, back But i'm a little pessimistic that it's

948
00:51:59,600 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: going to.

949
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 2: Have it's year two of a, coach and So Lance,

950
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: taylor you give a little bit of room for you,

951
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: know self evaluation as both the coach and recruiter and

952
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: developer or whatever and the assistance and everything that you

953
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: should look more like what you want to look like

954
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: in year. Two whether that results in more, wins who,

955
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: knows but, yes there should be more apparent vision this.

956
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: Year all, Right dan final team here in the Max.

957
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: Ohio ohio won ten games last. Year ohio Beat Iowa

958
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: state In week. Three that was the game Where Matt

959
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: campbell sort of freaked out at. SOMEONE i, remember, yeah

960
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: and then turn it around and turn it was totally.

961
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: Fine had a good, Year like the offense took a

962
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: huge step, forward like after that specific, MOMENT i believe

963
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: the offense was totally. Respectable so they got That ohio.

964
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: BUMP i, guess, yeah, Yeah ohio's the cautionary TALE i

965
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: think of how the transfer portal can decimated team's. Roster,

966
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: yeah twenty one guys transferred up to a power conference

967
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: or left for THE. Nfl now they backfilled it with

968
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: seventeen transfers all. In although they got six returning, starters

969
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: which isn't a lot. Tough should have a solid. Defense

970
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: despite the heavy, losses they lost nine of their top twelve.

971
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Tacklers the four guys they have back are like third

972
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: or fourth best in the conference at their, position so they're,

973
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: decent but just a lot of gaps that they got to.

974
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: Plug they got to hit on some of these. Transfers

975
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: the other fun and like dangerous thing For ohio is

976
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: what we saw in The bowl game with their Quarterback

977
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Parker navarro And Ricky. Hunt So navarro showed some serious

978
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: dual threat chops And hunt scored five. Touchdowns this is

979
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: a long way of saying that it hurts to lose

980
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: somebody Like Curtis rourke who transferred To, indiana but they

981
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: might have some interesting pieces that can kind of step

982
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: in and take over for that. Production it's just like

983
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: there's so much new. Here it's hard to know what to.

984
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: Expect the schedule isn't great at Both Miami ohio And.

985
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: Toledo there's almost no way they're getting back to nine

986
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: or ten. WINS i think like eight and four is

987
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: probably the absolute ceiling for this. Team there are no

988
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: more rocks to be. HAD i don't believe.

989
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: So After nathan And, curtis there's no Like zeke waiting

990
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: in the, wings.

991
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Not until the, roar not unless there's a little rock

992
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: running around out. There all, right, damn end of an.

993
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: Era end of an. Era, yeah we'll see what he

994
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: does In. Indiana i'm excited to see. That, Yeah, okay

995
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: we got one. Left should we do? It let's do

996
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: it one. More it's the sun belt to The Danger,

997
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: zone the Sun belt Sun belt in let's talk Fum.

998
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: Belt the Sun belt actually has. Divisions it's the only

999
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: conference it still has. Divisions we got An, east they've

1000
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: got A. West if you are looking strictly based on

1001
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: on computer, projections there is a clear top. Tier that

1002
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: Is James, madison App, State, louisiana And. Troy AND i

1003
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: only agree with half of. That, OKAY i like App

1004
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: state a. Lot if you listened to the last, episode

1005
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: you know THAT i Like louisiana a fair. AMOUNT i

1006
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: think both of them make a lot of. Sense i'll PUT,

1007
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: Ulm southern miss And Georgia state in the, basement, Okay

1008
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: but then seven other, teams basically half the conference feels

1009
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: pretty wide open to. Me pretty wide open to. Me

1010
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: i'm ready a lot of these teams Made bowl games last,

1011
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: year and there's a case to be made that The

1012
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: Sun belt is the best group of five conference from

1013
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: a number, STANDPOINT i think the sorry it's just been

1014
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: too long SINCE i Played. No, no that's, Important, yeah

1015
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: to work that in, Danger but it is very wide.

1016
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: OPEN i THINK i saw only one of the fourteen

1017
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: teams in this conference projects to have a better defense than.

1018
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: OFFENSE i see a lot of points this. Year and

1019
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: the other cool thing is That James madison can actually

1020
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: win the conference this year as opposed to the last

1021
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: two years where they were in this holding pattern because

1022
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: they bumped up FROM. Fcs that's that's gone, Now.

1023
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: Dylan, morris it's your. Time where Did jordan McLeod Go Texas?

1024
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: State jordan McLeod went To Texas? State CAN i start

1025
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: With Texas? State please go for, it, Dude Texas. STATE

1026
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: i am all in On Texas. State, Yeah i'm all.

1027
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: IN i have them winning The west this. YEAR i

1028
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: haven't win in The west eight and five last. Season

1029
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: it was a revelation in year one UNDER. Gj kinney

1030
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: and he did the thing where he took a bunch of,

1031
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: transfers scored close to thirty seven points a game this,

1032
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: year a lot. Back the one hundred and twenty seventh

1033
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: hardest schedule In, america which is, amazing the second easiest

1034
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: in the conference BEHIND Jmu well. DONE i think they're

1035
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: going to be dangerous because they upgraded at. Quarterback do

1036
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: you think? So but by? Accident, okay by. Accident so

1037
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: what happened was they HAD. Tj, finley who had a good.

1038
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: Year last year they HAD. Tj. Finley they brought In Jaden.

1039
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: DeLaura there was an uproar on campus Because Jade delaara

1040
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: ties to a sexual assault case in a lawsuit and all. That,

1041
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: yeah so then he ends up leaving. School they end

1042
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: up picking Up jordan McLeod From James. Madison so you

1043
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 1: Add jordan McLeod to an offense that pretty much brings

1044
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: everyone else, back and it feels like there's a very

1045
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: real possibility that they they're at least as good as

1046
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: they were a year, ago if not.

1047
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: Better fourth school For jordan McLeod usf To arizona TO

1048
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: Jmu Texas state.

1049
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: Fourth, school, correct, Correct so that's. Favorable the, schedule WHICH i,

1050
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: mentioned like most of the tough games are at. Home

1051
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: They're week two At, utsa which is a really important

1052
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: game just as like a Bell weather different, conference but

1053
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: as a Bell weather to see how they stack up

1054
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: overall in THE g five. Conversation week six they're At,

1055
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: louisiana which could decide The. West but The troy games at.

1056
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: Home they don't play any of my top three teams

1057
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: in The. East i'll also add that they Beat. Baylor

1058
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: they Beat baylor last year At, baylor And baylor goes

1059
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: on to three and. Nine they're numbers against the pass were,

1060
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: bad and you know the offensive trouble. Scoring this is

1061
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: not A baylor. Preview this is just to say that

1062
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: marked me down for we can put it in the.

1063
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: VOLCANO i don't know IF i get the smoke to

1064
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: work this. Time, yeah there it, is mark me, down

1065
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: throw it, in take a toa for. Another Texas state

1066
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: went Over bailor. Moartics Why Burns burns put that one

1067
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: in the? Volcano mark that one? Down your falling, behind.

1068
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: Dude you gotta. COME i KNOW i. Am the issue is,

1069
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: defense right like they allowed thirty three points the game last.

1070
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: Year it's not clear that they're going to be any.

1071
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: Better their offense score is so freaking fast that it

1072
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: puts a lot of strain on the. Defense and you,

1073
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't know how that's gonna shake out WHAT

1074
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: i would have liked to, do, though As i'm kind

1075
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: of fanning away, this whatever the substances that came out

1076
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: of the, VOLCANO i would like to petition you that

1077
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: we reassigned the old Bell dozer. Nickname, okay you can

1078
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: go for. It Texas state has an edge rusher Named

1079
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: Ben bell in ten sacks sixteen tackles for loss last.

1080
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: Season he's sort of like the focal point of that. Defense,

1081
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: Okay i'd like to BRING i thought Bell dozer was

1082
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: a great nickname back in the, day the bell. Raiser

1083
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: that feels almost more appropriate for a. Defense you want

1084
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: to go a bell? Raiser, yeah, okay the hell, Raiser,

1085
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah Ben, bell the bell. Raiser i'm all in On.

1086
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: TEXAS i Love Texas state this. Year. Great they're kind

1087
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: of like my sleeper. Team WHAT'S Dj kenny's next job

1088
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: going to? Be it's a good. Question it could be

1089
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: bail or if he beats him, again it could be

1090
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: a deal where you beat, him you get the. Job,

1091
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: yeah all, right what team interests? You i'm going to

1092
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: try to go through these relatively. Quickly, yeah let's get through.

1093
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: These let's get through this Sun? Belt what team interests

1094
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: me in the Sun? BELTS i mean App, states the

1095
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: contender To Map. State, yeah it's gonna it might Be

1096
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: Sean clark's best. Team this is gonna be his fifth.

1097
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: Year this might be his best. Team joey agi are

1098
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: their their quarterback was a revelation last. Season thirty seven

1099
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: hundred yards thirty three. Touchdowns he's the main reason they'll be.

1100
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: Dangerous an open question about the line in front of,

1101
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: him BUT i think they'll be. FINE i also think

1102
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: the defense is going to take a step, forward especially

1103
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: against the. Run they were very young last, season AND

1104
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: i think it showed on multiple. Occasions the interesting trend

1105
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: to watch on the App state side the defense has

1106
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: regressed the last three, year so it'll be interesting to

1107
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: see if they can stop that reverse that trend this.

1108
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: Season the front seven should be, better but you, know

1109
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: being better holistically on defense is a more complicated. Equation,

1110
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: also the schedule's tougher for App. State you, Know week

1111
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: two At clemson that'll be a nice, test but they've

1112
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: got That liberty, game which is at home but still

1113
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: a good. Opponent they're on the road At marshall At

1114
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: louisiana on back to back. Weeks they got a home

1115
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: game AGAINST jmu late In. November so for my, money

1116
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: still the class of the. CONFERENCE i Think Texas state's

1117
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: better on. OFFENSE i think a handful of teams will

1118
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: be better on. Defense nobody's been more consistent over the

1119
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 1: long haul though than App. State they go to a bowl.

1120
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: Game they win like every, year so it's hard for

1121
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: me to not put them head and shoulders above the next. Best,

1122
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: okay if that makes, sense it. DOES jmu is like

1123
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: the other interesting talking. Point LIKE i, said they, can

1124
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: they can win the conference this. Year they also lost their,

1125
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: coach So Kurt signetti, leaves he goes To. Indiana the

1126
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: new coach Is Bob, chesney comes from. Home. Yeah, yeah

1127
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: bringing That crossader energy to The Shenandoah. Valley Dan, rubers you,

1128
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: know this is basically a new team from last. Year

1129
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: they lost a, Ton they lost a, ton and they

1130
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: still have talent on. Hand Bob chesney's a good coach

1131
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: and not gonna bottom. Out it's not a situation like,

1132
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: that but they're not going to go eleven and two.

1133
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: Again this feels to me like the kind of team

1134
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: that goes nine to three but is worse than their

1135
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: record because the schedule's pretty. Easy we have teams like

1136
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: that every. Year so If Bob chesney can come in

1137
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: and pick up WHERE jmu left off last, season they'll

1138
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: probably be able to make a run at this. THING

1139
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: i am curious about that quarterback. Situation so you, know

1140
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: we talked About jordan. McLeod now It's Dylan. Morris you

1141
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: Remember Dylan morris At, wassma as Said wazu At, washington

1142
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: his timing was.

1143
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: Terrible he coincided with The John Donovan Jimmy lake.

1144
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: Era, yeah he graduated in the same class As Spencer,

1145
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: Rattler Graham, mertz And Tua tongue Of. Iloa he's that.

1146
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: Old But Graham mertz is still in college football but

1147
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: still a four.

1148
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: Star you, know he was a four. Star he has

1149
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: not played meaningful STAPs in a couple of. Years since

1150
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. One they went. Out they added a bunch

1151
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: of pieces to put around him and plug the. Gaps

1152
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: BUT i don't, know like it might take longer to

1153
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: get up to speed than we're, assuming just Because James

1154
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: madison has been a pretty good program for a. While.

1155
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: Now on, defense, again more. Transfers they lost like eight

1156
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: of their nine top. Tacklers everyone has to learn something

1157
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: new because they're switching schemes and all. That there's just

1158
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: there's not a dearth of. Talent it's just was so

1159
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: much new it's hard for me to see them getting

1160
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: back to that same. Level So I'm i'm a little

1161
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: bit skittish ON, jmu even THOUGH i like the direction

1162
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: of the program a fair.

1163
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: Amount you're getting That Holy CROSS. Dna you'll be all,

1164
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, AGREE i. Agree, no he's a good, COACH i.

1165
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: THINK i. AGREE i just think it might take some. Time.

1166
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: OKAY i do Like marshall a.

1167
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: Lot Oh, man this is a tough. Program they're going

1168
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: to air raid right on. Offense Seth deggie is now a.

1169
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: Quarter that's how old we. ARE i Like Charles.

1170
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: HUFF i do have some scar tissue because of the

1171
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago against Day.

1172
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: Marta, No marshall's not, good but they're good enough to

1173
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: be a notre.

1174
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: DAME i JUST i. EXACTLY i THINK i like this

1175
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: team more than. Most, okay they're installing the air raid

1176
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: Under Seth. Daggie, okay they bring In Mitch griffiths From Wake.

1177
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: Forest don't know HOW i feel about him running the air.

1178
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: Raid he wasn't exactly the most precise passer in his

1179
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: time At, week also a little bit, Undersized LIKE I

1180
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: i don't like. THAT i like that he's got some,

1181
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: experience but him throwing it fifty times a game good

1182
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Situation, yeah AND i think they'll by default

1183
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: improve on both sides of the. Ball but like they're

1184
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: they're on the road At Virginia tech And Ohio state

1185
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: in the first month of the. Year they got both

1186
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: the App state AND jmu on the schedule because they're

1187
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: in The. EAST i think the schedule doesn't do him any.

1188
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: Favors i've got him as the second best team in

1189
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: The east Behind App. STATE i think they're better THAN. Jmu,

1190
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: OKAY i don't feel good About. Marshall they've been pretty.

1191
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: Low there's something that strikes me a bit off about

1192
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: being down and then fully reversing course on all offensive

1193
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 2: philosophy to try and like bail out the ship THAT

1194
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: i agree to just flip the switch.

1195
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: And go air, Raid LIKE i don't, know man like.

1196
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 2: This need it probably need if this was gonna work

1197
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: if and maybe it. Will but to, me it's, Like,

1198
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: okay new coach comes, in here's his vision for. Offense

1199
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: air raid had nothing to do with it when he got,

1200
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: there was It Charles Huff and then going to this

1201
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: feels a little, like, Yeah Clay hilton Hired Graham. Harrel

1202
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: NOW usc is an air a, Team like, oh, okay

1203
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: good luck, EVERYBODY.

1204
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: I Think i'm with, You Georgia southern Man Clay hilton

1205
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: speaking AT usc like all off a cliff last. Year,

1206
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: yeah if you are in The, Statesboro georgia, area it

1207
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: is a great home schedule for. You, Okay, like go to.

1208
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: It even if you don't care About Georgia, southern go

1209
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: to the. Games they've Got Boise, Marshall James, Madison troy

1210
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: and app stayed all at. Home that's a good. Slate, awesome.

1211
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: Awesome Clay helton's a. Coach the offense has gotten a

1212
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: little bit better each, year the defense not so. Much

1213
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: the defense is where they need to. Improve on one,

1214
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: hand they were really. Young they've got a bunch of

1215
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: guys back this. Season on the, other unclear if there's

1216
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: any like obvious. Fix they gave up so many big

1217
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: plays last season it absolutely killed. Them how you fix

1218
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: that is beyond. ME i don't know if they've done

1219
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: enough to do, that but they're fairly. Deep they've got

1220
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: a lot of. Experience the home road splits are, fun

1221
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: if only from a spectator. STANDPOINT i think they're gonna

1222
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: knock somebody off with that. OFFENSE i don't know, who you, Know,

1223
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: like they've got App state last week of the, season

1224
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: which is a letdown game a week after App state

1225
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: Hosts James. Madison that could be an interesting. Candidate with their,

1226
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: Offense they're going to pick somebody. OFF i don't know,

1227
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: who but they've got a lot of questions answer on

1228
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball for. Sure. Yep IF

1229
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: i can round out The east very. Quickly Coastal carolina

1230
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: has sixty six new players this. Year oh my. God,

1231
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 1: yeah it's not going to go, well Including Noah kim

1232
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: remember him with Transfer Stagains. State he figures to be the.

1233
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: Quarterback Tim back brought in a bunch of fcs AND

1234
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: d two guys to try and offer help on.

1235
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: Defense this is the Regular tim, back not the Other

1236
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: tim back who is now running The vanderbilt.

1237
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: Offense that's, Correct that's. Correct there's just there's not a

1238
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: lot here that really excites. Me SO i like the

1239
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 1: possibilities on defense more than an. Offense BUT i don't

1240
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: like the way the schedule sets. Up it's just like

1241
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: this is a six win team that probably makes a

1242
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: ball and just keeps plugging. Along, OKAY i Think Georgia,

1243
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: state Like Georgia, state is in a really tough spot

1244
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: Because Sean elliott left right as spring practice was. Starting

1245
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: he is now the tight ends coach For South, Carolina and,

1246
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: dude they're getting what they're Getting, adel, Right they're Getting.

1247
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: Adel they're Getting del, McGhee who was some running game

1248
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: coordinator At georgia WHO i. Like, Also Jim cheney's, back

1249
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: But George chaney is.

1250
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: Back, yeah in The. State had some good memories there In. Athens,

1251
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: yeah they went.

1252
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: Out they got like fifteen quarterbacks in the. Portal. YEP

1253
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: i think It's christian value From, pitt who's going to

1254
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: be the new. Starter, okay but there's just, again it's

1255
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: like a lot New you got new systems on both

1256
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: sides of the, Ball.

1257
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: Like you, disassociate Disassociating Penn state From christian value From

1258
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: pitt Only.

1259
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 1: Pitt, yeah so it's it's tough For dell McGee familiar

1260
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: with the, area but it's he just got a late

1261
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: jump on. Everything, yeah And Odu odu was in eleven

1262
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: to one score games last.

1263
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: Year they're Quietly Ricky ronnie quietly building something a little

1264
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: bit tricky and fun.

1265
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: There literally every game other Than Virginia tech And liberty was. Close.

1266
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah you look at the schedule this, year the non

1267
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: conference is. HARDER i don't find a lot on here

1268
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: That i'm confident. About SO i THINK i think a

1269
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: more experienced offense. Helps not sure about the. Defense i'm

1270
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: biased With Ricky. RONNIE i just like the. GUY i

1271
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: like him one of His Penn state's offensive. COORDINATOR i

1272
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: think he's done more with less in his time AT,

1273
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: odu especially getting the team. Motivated so the other thing

1274
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: That i'd point, out just as a fun, fact seven

1275
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: and four is a home dog in his time is In. Norfolk,

1276
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: NORFOLK i think he'll have plenty of opportunities to improve

1277
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: on that this. Season there'd Be there'll be plenty of

1278
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: home dog. Opportunities, Monarchs. Yep. YEAH i don't have much

1279
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: to say ABOUT ulm other than they are definitively booty.

1280
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: Delicious you know Why i'm saying, that right general General

1281
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: booty transfers in From, oklahoma pretty much clean slate on,

1282
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: offense new Coach Brian. Vincent they're dead last in returning.

1283
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: Production it's it's gonna be an uphill. Climb you. KNOW

1284
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: i don't Hate southern miss in The. WEST i think

1285
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: they'll be. Better Tate rodimaker transferred over From Florida. State

1286
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: transfer quarterback. SITUATION i Like Frank gore is, gone But

1287
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: Will hall built the roster of transfers and underclassmen THAT

1288
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: i think can make the offense. Better unclear though whether

1289
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: the pass defense gets any better and that was really

1290
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: bad a year. Ago, also the, SCHEDULE i mean At

1291
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: kentucky At Jacksonville state At James, madison At Texas state At.

1292
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: Troy if you're, thinking, oh, maybe like they'll get back

1293
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: to a bowl game for the first, time and now

1294
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: we're starting that conversation at five, losses it's. Not, well

1295
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: here's the.

1296
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: Thing AND i have no thoughts On Southern, miss all

1297
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: of those, teams there's kind of like nothing certain Even.

1298
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: Kentucky kentucky started last season out terribly new. Quarterbacks kentucky's way.

1299
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: Better but like you, mentioned all those teams you're talking,

1300
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: about you're not high On Jared, Parker are you In?

1301
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 1: Troy i'm Saving Jared parker And troy for Last.

1302
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: Like you're probably not crazy high other than the bell

1303
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: raiser On Texas state's defense in this, Moment Bell.

1304
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: Razor, Yeah, LIKE i.

1305
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: Don't KNOW i if Sothern miss is pretty, good especially on.

1306
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: Offense they can give some team some. Trouble South alabama

1307
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: another situation where a coach left to be a coordinator

1308
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: or be an. Assistant Kane womack. Left he's now IN

1309
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 1: dc at At. Alabama big major higher, Right, Yeah major

1310
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 1: Apple white takes. Over he had been on the staff

1311
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: for three, years so he's. Familiar he you, know got

1312
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: some of his own head coaching. Experience what he doesn't

1313
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: have are a lot of players with actual. Experience and

1314
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: he didn't really go crazy with, transfers so that either

1315
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: means he likes what he has or he couldn't get

1316
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: anybody to come. There it's an open. QUESTION i don't

1317
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: KNOW i really like their starting quarterback BECAUSE i don't

1318
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: feel like we've had an Enough geo's in college. Football

1319
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: the LAST i can remember Is Geo bernard For North, Carolina.

1320
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay Geo lopez is a red shirt Freshman okay who

1321
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: brings some running ability to the quarterback position and could

1322
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: be interesting to. Watch but, otherwise like you, Know Major apploid's.

1323
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: Fine he's fine as a. Coach the schedule is not.

1324
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: GREAT i think it'll be a struggle to get back

1325
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: to a ball there's just too much. Turnover but, again

1326
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: it's not a situation where they're gonna bought him. Out it's,

1327
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,480
Speaker 1: just you, know they're they're starting over in some. Respects

1328
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: wasn't There, god who was the forty Nine ers drafted At?

1329
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,440
Speaker 1: Giovanni did they? NOT i think it Was Giovanni?

1330
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 2: Bernard, no, no, no they. Didn't they draft a Court Giovanni. Carmazzi,

1331
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: Oh Giovanni. Carmazzi, hofstra, baby is that the dude from The?

1332
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: Bear that is the dude from The?

1333
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 2: Bear, Okay Giovanni, carmozzi The hofstra which no longer exists

1334
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 2: as a.

1335
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: Program mind you.

1336
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: Correct he was drafted in the third, round and it

1337
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: WAS i don't know why we're going down this. ROAD

1338
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: i don't know Why i'm going down this, road But

1339
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: i'm pretty sure he was the quarterback that was drafted pretty.

1340
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: High, yeah Was Steve.

1341
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: Mariucci he, Played Giovanni carmozzi, played And Steve mariuci was,

1342
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 2: like this.

1343
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: Guy's gonna BE i found a. Guy, GUYS i.

1344
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 2: Found a, Guy, okay and they played a preseason.

1345
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: GAME i remember this.

1346
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: Again it was like The steelers of The patriots or,

1347
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: something And Steve mariucci was watching from the sideline LIKE

1348
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: i don't know if it was like The hall Of fame.

1349
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: Game it was one of like nothing preseason game and

1350
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: they put him, in And Steve mariucci like in a

1351
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: documentary or something about that, time was, Like i've made

1352
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: an enormous, mistake but he has no idea what he's.

1353
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: Doing that's The GEO i. Remember, sorry all, right three

1354
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: more teams. Here i'll do respect To giovanni carmozzin his. Family,

1355
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah Geo, LOPEZ i think he'll be. Fun there you, Go.

1356
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: LUISI i Like. Louisiana two points of. Note this is

1357
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: not the Billionapier. LOUISIANA i feel like people are still

1358
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: digesting that. Fact those teams are, better they're better, organized

1359
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: they're just better in. GENERAL i think last year as

1360
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 1: a second, point was a bit of an, aberration especially on.

1361
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: Defense they lost a bunch of. Guys seven of their

1362
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: nine top tacklers guys were in the. Portal it was an.

1363
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: Ideal they went six and. SEVEN i am high on

1364
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: them this year because they have a lot back from

1365
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: an offense that had four hundred yards and thirty two

1366
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 1: points a. Game i'm optimistic that the defense also improves

1367
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: in a big. Way my main point of hesitation, though

1368
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: is at Quarterback Xeon chris great, name had a good

1369
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: year last, year transferred To, houston and so they've got

1370
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: some experience behind. HIM i think it'll Be Chandler fields at.

1371
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: Quarterback if not, him it'll Be Ben. Woolridge but in neither, case,

1372
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: well the new quarterback offered the same dual threat abilities

1373
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: as Young. Chris, yeah so it's gonna look a little bit.

1374
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: Different they also hired a GUY i think you will.

1375
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: Love their new defensive coordinator Is Jim. Selgato he's been

1376
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: AN nfl assistant for the last six years or. So

1377
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: the quotes from this dude are. Awesome. Awesome first, off

1378
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: every other sentence is about how they need to stop the. Run,

1379
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: great every other sentence clearly an emphasis vision they do

1380
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: need to stop the. Run so's he's on point. There

1381
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: they got pushed around last season in a big. Way

1382
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: he's also not crazy about labeling his scheme quote the, Scheme,

1383
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,480
Speaker 1: ah that stuff's. Overrated he, said it's about the. Players

1384
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: what do they do? Well that's our job as a.

1385
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: Coach put him in the best position so that they

1386
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: can be the best version of themselves.

1387
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: Tackle somebody as soon as humanly. Possible is that not?

1388
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 2: REFRESHING i do like, that love this. Guy, YEAH i

1389
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: think it is an eight or nine win. Team, Okay

1390
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: october the twenty, nine they're on the road At Texas.

1391
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: State both teams off a. Bye pretty good chance that's

1392
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 2: the game that determines The.

1393
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: West okash didn't That Arkansas, States Butch, JONES i think

1394
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be. Good. Yeah they were crazy young last

1395
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: year and they started a freshman quarterback In Jalen. Rayner

1396
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: they Beat, louisiana they Pounded Texas state. Late so with

1397
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: the youth came some. Inconsistency having pretty much everyone back

1398
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: this year should mean improvements on. Offense it's just a

1399
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 1: question again of. Defense they've got enough back on. Defense

1400
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: they added some transfers to beef up their. DEPTH i

1401
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: think they should be better all. AROUND i think there

1402
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: is big time sleeper potential with The Red wolves because

1403
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: of the. Offense mainly because of the. Offense But i'm with.

1404
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: YOU i like them a.

1405
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: Lot, look they beat decent. Teams they finished stronger than they,

1406
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: started given who they played in their schedule and how

1407
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: ugly they lost by a bajillion points to Other texas

1408
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: Or oklahoma to start the.

1409
01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: Year AND.

1410
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't know like They when you go from clearly

1411
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 2: terrible to pretty, good even if it takes three, YEARS

1412
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: i think that's the right. Direction i've been With Arkansas.

1413
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: State if you're young and becoming pretty, GOOD i think

1414
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: that's a team worth we're paying attention.

1415
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: To let's close things out With Troy Dan. Okay troy

1416
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: was eleven and three last year they won The Sun,

1417
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: belt lost To duke in the bowl. Game John sumrall,

1418
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: left went To. Tulane they Hired Jared parker From Notre

1419
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: dame the offensive. Coordinator, YEAH i am Sure Jared parker

1420
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: is a good dude who works hard and cares about his.

1421
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: Family Scott leffler, situation not a coordinator is a head.

1422
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: COACH i am sure he's a good. Guy from a number.

1423
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 1: Standpoint as you rightfully pointed out on the last, episode

1424
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: he was fine As Notre dame's offensive. Coordinator. Sure where

1425
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: he really short, though was relative to expectations relative to

1426
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 1: the talent on. Hand in those, respects he was woefully.

1427
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: Short my biggest, critique and you know this from talking

1428
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: to me about this all last. Year it never felt

1429
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: like the offensive line and the offensive scheme were one cohesive.

1430
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: Thing they were sort of operating in their own little,

1431
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: universes and that led to a lot of situations where

1432
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: felt like they were out of. Sync crunch. Time it

1433
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: was a lot of the same stuff that they knew

1434
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: they could. Do. Right, sure most of the time that

1435
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: was running the ball off the middle with aultric, estimate

1436
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 1: which for most games was a pretty much. Strategy but

1437
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: against the better, teams you know they could sniff. It

1438
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: they knew it was. Coming, also he just did not

1439
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: get the most out Of Sam, hartman and people have

1440
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: told Me i'm crazy for even bringing this. Up i'll

1441
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: bring it up. Again if you pro Rate Drew pine

1442
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: stats in twenty twenty two and compare them a against

1443
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: What Sam hartman did last. Year Sam hartman was still,

1444
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: better but that gap was not as big as it

1445
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: should have. Been it just WASN'T i don't think he

1446
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: maximized that. Opportunity So Notre dame fans were thrilled with

1447
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: this hire By. Troy we wanted to get rid Of

1448
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: Jared parker mid. Season i'd have thrown a few bucks

1449
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: in the hat to pay for the. MOVING i don't

1450
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: know how they hired. HIM i have no idea how this.

1451
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: HAPPENED i Know Jared parker And john summerl played together At.

1452
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: Kentucky there's some familiarity. There maybe that's the. CONNECTION i

1453
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: just have a hard time with this because it's not

1454
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: Like troy is starting. Over troy is the defending conference.

1455
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: Champion you cannot convince me they couldn't have done better

1456
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: Than Jared. PARKER i don't get. IT i don't get this.

1457
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: HIGHER i think it was. Terrible we'll see what, happens.

1458
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: Okay on top of, That troy's one hundred and twenty

1459
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: ninth in returning. Production it's a completely hollowed out. Roster

1460
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: they got two starter's. Back that's it on both sides

1461
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: of the. Football SO i guess the upside if You're

1462
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: Jared parker is that if it, works you can, say,

1463
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: WOW i rebuilt this team in my. Image the downside

1464
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: is good, program a lot of, success but a really

1465
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: difficult starting position for a first time full time head.

1466
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: Coach he was in interim for a little bit At.

1467
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 1: PURDUE i don't see this. Working i'm low On troy

1468
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 1: Because i'm low On Jared. Parker it's been a successful

1469
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: program for a long. Time they've been a good job

1470
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: hiring coaches that have unfortunately used the job as the

1471
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: stepping stone to get to bigger and better. Things Maybe

1472
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: Jared parker will be a great head. Coach it wasn't

1473
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: a good. Coordinator possibility that happens all the, time, sure

1474
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: but until proven, Otherwise i'm, very very skeptical that this

1475
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: is going to work For.

1476
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: Troy, okay the good news FOR i mean, People multiple

1477
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:53,520
Speaker 2: people have won At. Troy multiple people have one At, troy.

1478
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: Different types of coaches who run different. Schemes like it's.

1479
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 2: Totally it's been A Neil brown And John summer all

1480
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: most recently won At.

1481
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: Troy it's been a successful program for a long, time

1482
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: and there's reasons for. That it's not all on the,

1483
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: coach but there's it's a good landing. Spot it's a

1484
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: good place to go and.

1485
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: Coach if the alignment is there with administration and boosters

1486
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: and fans support all that. STUFF a lot of people

1487
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: can win at a successful. Place we've seen it all

1488
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: over this. Landscape Maybe troy is that, place And Jared

1489
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: parker deserves our attention And we'll see if it works

1490
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: out for, him and hopefully it's not a. Situation you

1491
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: hear those stories after the fact where the ad was,

1492
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 2: like you, know he was the only candidate that looked

1493
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: me in the eye and shook my, hand and that's

1494
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: WHY i Hired we're gonna.

1495
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: Get something like, that, like that's why you hired. Him

1496
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: that's a post. Mortem. Yeah, AGAIN i don't know, Him,

1497
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: like he could be a good, dude AND I i

1498
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: hate to do this thing Where i'm just like crapping

1499
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: on a guy THAT i never. Met but ALL i

1500
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: have to go on is what we saw last year

1501
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: At Notre, dame and it wasn't. Good it really wasn't.

1502
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: Good after a full off season of talking this guy,

1503
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: up and the system's gonna look the same as was

1504
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: Under Tommy.

1505
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: Rees was he one of the like Seven Penn state

1506
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver coaches in nine? Years, yeah he was one of.

1507
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 2: Them yeah he. Was he was At Penn. STATE i

1508
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 2: forget his exact, role but he.

1509
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: Was he was. There he was part of A.

1510
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah in additional notes On Giovanni, carmazzi tie please Please

1511
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: Steve Mario mariucci drafted him because he was both a

1512
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 2: quarterback and A rhodes scholar and a point. Guard, okay

1513
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: now you know HOW nfl scouting, goes where you you'll

1514
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 2: pay attention to like the local, team like if you're

1515
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: THE La rams or, whatever like you want to familiar

1516
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: yourself with LIKE usc AND ucla players because, like, oh

1517
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: maybe that'll be an easier. Transition right, now nobody moving

1518
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 2: across the. Country maybe somebody from Southern. California, yeah uh

1519
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: from Northern california eligible to be drafted in that draft

1520
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 2: by the forty nine Ers Tom, Brady Tom harrytown guy

1521
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: from Northern, california and Uh Giovanni. Carmozzi in that preseason

1522
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: game played against The. Patriot it's In Tom brady's first

1523
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 2: Preseason pretty, cool pretty cool story. Everybody, anyway who do

1524
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: you have winning The Sun?

1525
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: Belt i've got app state win in The Sun. Belt.

1526
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:20,919
Speaker 1: OKAY i Included louisiana as one of MY g five playoff.

1527
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: CONTENDERS i think Push cubs to. Shove i'm still probably

1528
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: higher On Texas, state BUT i have more questions about their. Defense, Okay,

1529
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: so in a really weird counterintuitive, Move i'm gonna Leave

1530
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: Texas state out of that equation for THE g five playoff,

1531
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: spot And i'll Keep louisiana, there even THOUGH i do

1532
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: tend to Like Texas state a little bit.

1533
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: MORE i have Fresnov boise in The Mountain.

1534
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 1: West how about? That oh, okay that's. All so, look

1535
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: this is a lot of content on all THINGS g.

1536
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: Five we covered all five of the. Conferences we originally

1537
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: thought maybe we just Lump Notre dame in. Here glad

1538
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: we didn't do. That, yeah we we'll talk About Notre

1539
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: dame at a point later on this.

1540
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,799
Speaker 2: Season didn't Insult Oregon state In Washington state by including

1541
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 2: them in this as?

1542
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, nope we. Will we will do maybe a

1543
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: separate independence. Show, yeah thank you one and all for

1544
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 1: bearing with us here longer than usual. Episode as we

1545
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: talk about all these, teams soverbat gmail dot com has

1546
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: always its email, address email in let us know what

1547
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: we got, right what we got, wrong what we should

1548
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: do better next time. Around next, episode we're going to

1549
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: start up with THE. Acc we'll do it from a

1550
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: bigger picture. Perspective what's changing in the, conference what are the,

1551
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: storylines what are our tiers in THE? Acc and then

1552
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: the next two episodes as we're doing three parters will

1553
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: be about specific teams within THE, acc so we'll give

1554
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: ourselves plenty of. Time hopefully we're not do an hour

1555
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: and a half. Episodes we know your time is, precious

1556
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: but thank you as.

1557
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 2: Always it would have been shorter without The Giovanni carmazzi,

1558
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 2: detur but. Continue it was.

1559
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: NECESSARY i, THINK i, KNOW i understand it was. Necessary

1560
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: hit follow, hits, subscribe tell your, friends, rate, review all

1561
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: that fun. Stuff go to oballers dot com if you're

1562
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Speaker 1: interested in supporting what we. Do get the, ad free,

1563
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Speaker 1: episodes bonus, content so on and so. Forth my voice is.

1564
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: Fried my, man you're. GOOD i need to go drink

1565
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: something before this cuts out of me like it did last.

1566
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: Summer all, right done for that guy over, there my

1567
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: good Friend Dan, rubinstein for, Myself Diilla. Brand thanks for

1568
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: bearing with us HERE g five in the. Books we'll

1569
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: talk to, y'all, sudents stay so peace