1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downing, and we are 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: going to break down the Ravens twenty nine to twenty 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: four loss in Cleveland. Baltimore falls to five and three. 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: That's the second win of the year for the Browns 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: in a game that nobody really predicted. I think it 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: was unanimous that the Ravens were picked to win this one. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: But I will say I told you it was gonna be. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: A much closer game. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: It was not going to be a cakewalk, and that 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: is certainly how it played out. Didn't see the Ravens losing, 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: but they dropped a tough one in Cleveland. And dropped 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: is the keyword, Garrett. 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is a game where if 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: it could go wrong, it did go wrong. And we'll 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 4: talk through a lot of those points. But there wasn't 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 4: much that the Ravens did in this game that you 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: feel good about. I think on both sides of the ball, 20 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: there were issues. There were mistakes. There were a lot 21 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: of instances of the Ravens shooting themselves in the foot, 22 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: and honestly, it was on all three phases offense, defense, 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: and special teams. All three units had moments and plays 24 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: that I think as the team is looking at this game, 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: they're going to say, man, if we had made this play, 26 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: if this had gone differently, if it come up with 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: an interception in this moment, whatever it is. I think 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: that there's going to be a lot of people kind 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: of looking back at this game questioning what they could 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: have done differently to make the difference, because there were 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: opportunities there, and the Ravens really missed a golden opportunity 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: here on the road against the team that had one win, 33 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 4: And this is not the type of game you want 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 4: to give up, given where the Ravens, where the Ravens 35 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 4: were in the standings, and this is a really disappointing. 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: Blow for this team. 37 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Ravens were riding a five game losing streak. 38 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: Their last two losses have come to two of the 39 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: worst teams in the league and the Browns and the Raiders, 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: and so just a weird one. 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: And you know, but again, this is an AFC North game. 42 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: These games are going to be tight, and I think 43 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: the Browns certainly had a different energy with Jamis Winston 44 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: at quarterback. It was just you know, if Deshaun Watson's 45 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: playing this game, I'm not sure that it turns out 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: this way. But anyway, the headliner for the Ravens obviously 47 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: were the drops and particularly on defense, multiple chances to 48 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: intercept Jameis Winston I mean easily Ravens could have easily 49 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: had four of them. James Winston finishes twenty seven completions 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: for three hundred and thirty four yards and three touchdowns. 51 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: The key one again zero interceptions. Kyle Hamilton had a 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: chance to. 53 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: End the game. 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: It would have been a game winning interception with a 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: minute left. Drops that one off of bibbles, I mean, 56 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: rate in his chest, you know it's right there. He's 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure sick flying home from this one. And for 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: a fantastic player who, by the way, you know, had 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: a sack strip early in the game that really kept 60 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: the Ravens in the game early. But it wasn't just him, 61 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 2: I mean this was an epidemic of inter dropped interceptions 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: here in Cleveland. Eddie Jackson had two that he could 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: have had multiple opportunities for picks for the Ravens that 64 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: hit the ground. And this isn't just an isolated incident. 65 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: This is something they went into the game specifically working 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: on said we have to we have to pick these 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: guys off. Uh, and more of the same again here 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. 69 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean drops were the keyword. You said it. 70 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: And and this game in a lot of ways reminded 71 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 4: me of the Steelers game last year that the Ravens 72 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: you lost. They lost that game before the London trip, 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: and you look back at that head's like, how did 74 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: you lose that game? Well, they lost that game because 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: they had like a dozen drops in that game and. 76 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: Those were more that was on the offensive side of 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: the offensive drops. 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, today there were there were offensive drops. 79 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: They the offense didn't wasn't you know, devoid of those either. 80 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: And when you look at this, like just just when 81 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: I run through it, like the quick notes of like 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: if it can go wrong, it would go wrong in 83 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: no particular order. You have the game Kyle Hamilton game 84 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: winning interception that's dropped, Eddie Jackson dropped a pair Bateman 85 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: dropped a huge play over the middle where it kind 86 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: of looked like he lost it in the sun and 87 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: lost his footing Lamar miss Zay for a wide open 88 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: touchdown earlier in the game. There's also a big opportunity 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: to Isaiah likely for ninety yard touchdown that Lamar missed. 90 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: There Nels Naglar dropped a big first down catch justin 91 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: Tucker missed a field goal. Their field goal kicker hit 92 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 4: the post, hit the doink and then it goes through. 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: And then there were some big penalties on special teams 94 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: and on offense. So like, those are all things that 95 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: I feel like are pretty uncharacteristic. 96 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: Of this team. 97 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: But they crept up today and they cost the Raves 98 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: in a big way. 99 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 100 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so I agree with you. 101 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: I think that there's a lot of fastest in this 102 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: game where you're like, man, if they just make that 103 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: one pick, they win this game. Obviously the Hamilton won 104 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: any of the others. Now, let's also not gloss over 105 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: the fact that Lamar Jackson could have been picked off 106 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: multiple times in this game as well and didn't get 107 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: picked So that kind of went both ways. So honestly, like, okay, 108 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: Hamilton won a side because that's glaring with a minute left, 109 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: that was the game, right, But like it went both ways. 110 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: I think matter of fact is the Ravens defense is 111 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: not playing well enough, point blank, no way around it. 112 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: And this was a game. 113 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: You know, I've talked a number of times about the 114 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: stretch of quarterbacks the Ravens have faced, the stretch of 115 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: wide receivers, how good these offenses have been that the 116 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: Ravens are facing. All of that still remains true. Okay, 117 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: You're going against the thirty second rat passing offense. 118 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: And I know Jameis Winston. 119 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: I thought he played a good game, and he was 120 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: on time, and it was different with you know, it 121 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: was a different energy with him in there instead of 122 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. But I mean, come on, it's still Jameis Winston. 123 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: He got hardly any pressure on him the whole day. 124 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: This is a team that gave up the most sex 125 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: in the league. The Ravens got two sacks on Jameis Winston. Really, 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: aside from blitzing, got almost no pressure. You're talking about 127 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: a wide receiver corps that just traded Amari Cooper, Cedric 128 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: Tillman scores two touchdowns, puts up ninety nine receiving yards, 129 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: Elijah Moore eighty five. Right, I mean, so I'm all 130 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: that aside, like this was not a top played offense 131 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: that the Ravens face today. It just isn't it. Hasn't 132 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: been I don't. I thought that they played fine today, 133 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 2: but the Ravens gave them too much. And and yes, 134 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: the Ravens are missing some key pieces in that secondary. 135 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: You're playing without Marlon Humphrey, You're playing without Nate Nate Wiggins, 136 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: Brent Urban and Michael Pierce both go down early in 137 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: this game. Those are definitely factors. I'm still I'm still 138 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: you know that I'm still concerned about this defense all 139 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: with all those factors thrown in there. 140 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, this defense has had challenges really all year long, 141 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: and when you go and look through the entirety of 142 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: the season, even in during the five game winning streak, 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: there's really been moments where the defense hasn't played up 144 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: to the level that they're used to playing at. 145 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: And look, I'm surprised. I'm surprised as anybody. 146 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: You and I both got coming into the season that 147 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 4: this was going to be a top five defense, that 148 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 4: it has star power at all levels of this defense. 149 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: And so it's hard for me to really point to 150 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: a one thing that's like the issue. I don't think 151 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: it's one thing. I think there's a variety part of 152 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: its drops today. Obviously part of it's still like communication disorganization, 153 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: Like on the on Cedric Tillman's first touchdown, the defense 154 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: wasn't really set. They weren't organized on that play and 155 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: then Tilman ran it in far too easy for a touchdown, 156 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: took a slant and that's the type of play that 157 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: you just can't give up. So like, what is happening 158 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: on those plays? I don't know exactly what the issues are. 159 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: I think another it's. 160 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean, on the gate, their game winning touchdown was 161 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: Cedric Tillman. I mean, Eddie Jackson just got that one. 162 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: That one got You're the deep safety, you just got 163 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: beat deep, yeah this, you know. I mean the Ravens 164 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: have been struggling with their safety play this season. I mean, 165 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: and there's obviously concern on the Ravens part because they 166 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: made some pretty drastic personnel decisions. I mean, Marcus Williams, 167 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: starting safety, got benched, David a Jabo was a healthy scratch. 168 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: Like those show that the Ravens also have some concern 169 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: about the way that this defense is playing. And unfortunately, 170 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: you know, Marcus was on the bench. The safety play 171 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: didn't really improve, you know, and Eddie Jackson dropped a 172 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: couple and had gave up a game winning touchdown. You know, 173 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: ourd Arius has dropped multiple picks this year. Kyle Hamilton, 174 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: who's your all pro who otherwise I thought played a 175 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: great game, had his drop. So just a tough another 176 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: tough outing for the secondary. 177 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think to your point on the jamis 178 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 4: Winston being inserted to the starting lineup, I do think 179 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 4: that that was a real factor for the Browns. I 180 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: don't think it's an excuse, but I think that it 181 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: changed the energy of that team and it changed the 182 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: type of plays that they call, the offense that they run. 183 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: He throws it out there and he like the issue 184 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: with him has been takeaways and if you're not catching 185 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 4: the turnovers, he's pretty darn good. 186 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: And that's what it was today for the Rails. 187 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: And I thought that you could tell, even even on 188 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: the broadcast, just the conversations that they had with the 189 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: Browns during the week and watching practice, it felt like 190 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: there was a different vibe and energy with him at 191 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: quarterback compared to Sean Watson. 192 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: And I think that was real. 193 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: Like John Harboy did tell me coming into the game 194 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: that there was a sense of an unknown with a 195 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: new offensive play caller. From Kevin Sefanski to Candorsey and 196 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 4: a new quarterback, that there was a level of uncertainty 197 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: that that could be a factor in this game, and 198 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 4: it did feel that way, And I still don't think 199 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 4: that's an excuse. I think that I think that no 200 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 4: matter any level of uncertainty, when you have the ball 201 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: in your hands, you need to catch it. You know, 202 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: that doesn't doesn't matter who's throwing it. But I think 203 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: that that probably paid played some level of an impact 204 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: and I really think it probably had an impact on 205 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: the Brown side of things. They seemed to energized and 206 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: that was a tangible thing in this game. 207 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with all of that. 208 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: I think that, you know, the vibes around Deshaun Watson 209 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: really since the beginning of the year were all negative 210 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. And he also holds the ball and takes 211 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: a ton of sacks, so Jamis gets he might throw 212 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: it into trouble, but he's gonna get the ball out 213 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: and he's gonna take some shots. And he did that 214 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: today and the Ravens didn't catch him. So yeah, I 215 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: think that when the Browns offense started, you know, the 216 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: game pretty hot. The Browns defense came out really aggressively 217 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: and really kind of slowed down this Baltimore offense. Then 218 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: they had momentum. Then they believe that, yeah, we can 219 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: pull off an upset here and that can snowball on 220 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: you and the Ravens. You know, they made their plays 221 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: on their side of the ball too. It was a 222 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: back and forth game. But you make this many mistakes 223 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: on all three facets of the game, you're not gonna win. 224 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: I was really one thing going just kind of my 225 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: final thoughts on the defense that really was disappointing to 226 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 4: me is that they had some issues early, but they 227 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: did have opportunities to close out the game, and no 228 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: better than at the very end obviously, where you know, 229 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: Kyle dropped the pick, but Lamar Jackson drives the offense 230 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: ninety one yards down the field and they scored the 231 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: touchdown there, and it's time for the defense to come 232 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: up with a big stop and they weren't able to 233 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 4: do it. And then even earlier in the game. It's 234 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 4: not like the game was going to be decided in 235 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: these moments, but it felt like one of those games 236 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: where okay, now the offense, the offense came up with 237 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: the big play. Now it's time for the defense to 238 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: match that, and they just weren't able to do it. 239 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: After the Mark Andrews touchdown. They weren't able to do 240 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: it after the big play. After at the end of. 241 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: Half, it felt like, okay, here you go. Defense came 242 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: up with the stopped. 243 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 4: There, the offense converted punched that in the end zone. 244 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: First half, scare everything's going to be okay. But then 245 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: the Browns came out in the offense and they continue 246 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: to move the ball and put up points. So it 247 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: just felt like the defense had chances to close it 248 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: out and finish the game. And that's been a constant theme. 249 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 4: It's disappointing they weren't able to do that. 250 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Browns put up four hundred and 251 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: one yards of total offense. You know, they picked up 252 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: way too many first downs. They picked up twenty two, 253 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: just as many as the Ravens. So you know, that 254 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: also limited the possessions that the Ravens had, particularly in 255 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: the first half. The Browns just eight o'clock a ton 256 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: of it. And so it wasn't just the big plays 257 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: or the dropped interceptions, it was just you know, not 258 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: getting them off the field on third down, letting them 259 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: continue drives. They ran the ball more effectively than I 260 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: think people expected. Again, Michael Pierce, Brent and Urban going 261 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: down certainly doesn't help. But you know, the Browns converted 262 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: over half their third downs eight to fifteen. The Ravens 263 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: went to ten. 264 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, third down was a problem with the Ravens offense. 265 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, let's take a break. When we 266 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 2: come back, we'll dive into the Ravens offensive notes from 267 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: this game. 268 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: Welcome into the Lounge podcast. We're coming to you from 269 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: the Seakeek studio. 270 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: We also want to mention our partners at Draft Kings Sportsbook. 271 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 4: Draft King sports Book is an official sports betting partner 272 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: of the Baltimore Ravens DraftKings Sports Book. The Crown is yours. 273 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: So the Ravens offense, it's kind of an up and 274 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: down game. Lamar Jackson had some great moments in this game, 275 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: also had some miscues. I mentioned missing Isaiah likely wide 276 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: open for a big touchdown opportunity, mission Ze Flowers for 277 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: a touchdown opportunity in the end zone. But then he 278 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: also came up with classic Lamar plays where he's scrambling 279 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: and makes something out of nothing and comes up with 280 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: plays that not anybody else could and he delivers them 281 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: all over the middle to a wide open wide receiver 282 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: on a potential drive and you're thinking, Okay, now the 283 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: offense is gonna be rolling and Bateman seemed to lose 284 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: it in the sun. So like it was up and 285 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 4: down with this offense. But I don't think that. 286 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: Lamar was totally sharp early in this game. 287 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: When the offense seemed kind of sluggish in the first 288 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: half of this one. 289 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they came out sluggish, I think is 290 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: the right word. And I thought the Browns defense, you know, 291 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: this is a particular style of defense, This is very aggressive, 292 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: downhill style defense that you have to make them pay 293 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: for that over aggressiveness. And it really kind of clogged 294 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: up the Ravens rushing attack and it put a lot 295 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: of pressure on Lamar Jackson. You know, he's handled the 296 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: blitz well, but it's not just the blitz for Cleveland. 297 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see at how high rate they 298 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: did blitz. But you know, they just come downhill. Those linebackers, 299 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: though safe, they attack it. And I thought, you know, 300 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry had one run for thirty nine yards. 301 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: Other than that, he finished. 302 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: With seventy three rushing yards, right, so he had twenty 303 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: four yards. Other than that, if I'm doing that math, 304 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that twenty thirty four thirty four you're 305 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: gonna carry the three. There we go, We got there. 306 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, thirty nine on one carry the other ten 307 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: he had thirty four. Right. So it wasn't a great 308 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: rushing game for the Ravens. And yeah, I thought that 309 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: the Cleveland's defense came out. They covered better than I 310 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: thought the Ravens did. You know in their secondary a 311 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: lot of contested catches for the Ravens, a lot of tough, 312 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: tough catches, and it just wasn't smooth. 313 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: On offense, they never really got rolling. 314 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: I felt like with you know momentum where you felt like, oh, yeah, okay, 315 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: this offense is just gonna take off from here. 316 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: The weird thing is like game opens and on the 317 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: offense just marched down the field. Everyone's getting involved in 318 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: the action, and it's. 319 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: Like, okay, here we go. This is how I expect 320 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: this game to be. 321 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, two short yardage situations really kill the Ravens. I 322 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: mean they're on the opening drive fourth and one, they 323 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: go direct snap to Derrick Henry and he just gets stuffed. 324 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: I mean that play just got blown up in the backfield. 325 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: Didn't look like it got blocked up. It was just 326 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: not a good play. And then later on in the 327 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: game again lining up in a fourth down I think 328 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: it was a fourth down sessuation. I think third down situation, 329 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: third and one, tried to go under center with tight 330 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: end Charlie Kohler and he fall starts and so. 331 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: Now on the cooler one they were able to overcome that, 332 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: and they still score a touchdown on that drive, right, but. 333 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: Short yardage, it's kind of the first one obviously hurt. 334 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: That's three points that you gave up and potential for seven, 335 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: So that one hurt. But yeah, two tough plays. 336 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: Just on that. 337 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: A fourth down decision not to play call itself, but 338 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: the decision to go for. 339 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: John Harbal did say. 340 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: After the game that that was the mindset, that was 341 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: the game plan for the team coming into this game. 342 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: Given a situation like that, that yard is that part 343 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: of the field, the offense was going to go for it. 344 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: It doesn't work out whenever whenever. 345 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: Well, and that's to me, that's that's another indication of 346 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: like they see there's concern on the defensive side of 347 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: the ball. Yeah, like when you're like, we got to 348 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: score touchdowns against the Browns and this offense that came 349 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: into the game ranked last in the league. You know, 350 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: one is just okay, we're just going to be aggressive. 351 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: But that also tells me that's that's that's game plan, 352 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: that's a game plan decision. You think that this could 353 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: be you could be giving up some points. 354 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and whenever a fourth down play doesn't work like 355 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: you will naturally question the decision to go for it. 356 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: But then the next conversation is whether that was a 357 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: good play call in and of itself. And and I 358 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: know on the broadcast of this game there was concern 359 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: of why you take the ball out of Lamar Jackson's 360 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: hands on those plays you make you take him away 361 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: from the quarterback position you put in Derek Hennery and 362 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: Charlie Kohler. 363 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: Fine, fair criticism. 364 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: I think that the truth is, like that wildcat play 365 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: with with Derek Hennery. 366 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: That works a lot. 367 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: You know, that worked, That worked plenty of times in Tennessee, 368 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 4: and that's gonna work for the Ravens too. 369 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: So well, Tennessee also doesn't have them. 370 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: Money, I know, true, fair, fair, that's fair a good point. 371 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: You know. I think that that play. I think that 372 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if that play. 373 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Is executed, if it's blocked up correctly and all that stuff, 374 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: it probably works most. 375 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Of the time. 376 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: But it didn't. But it didn't, so naturally there's criticism 377 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: around it. 378 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: Right, understandable. I'm sure Todd Munkin will be saying the 379 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, totally. 380 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: So, you know, I think that it just was the 381 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: first half. 382 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: It just seemed like the Browns like they were coming 383 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 4: downhill and they were living in the backfield. And on 384 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 4: that very first drive, it seemed like the Ravens were 385 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: able to get them stretched out to the perimeters and 386 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: they were getting them moving horizontally on some of the play. 387 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: Calls that they had. 388 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 4: But then after that drive, they just were able to 389 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 4: really stuff things up at the middle with Derek Hennery 390 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 4: in the backfield, and then they weren't really able to 391 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: get pressure. They were able to get pressure in the 392 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: was weren't able to have any success with the passing game. 393 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: It's just early on there was nothing really going for 394 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: this offense. 395 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Lamar played a better second half than 396 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: he did a first half. Made some ridiculous plays and 397 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: certainly would have been even better had there not been 398 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: some drops, you know, the long wind, the Bateman obviously 399 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: that we talked about Nelly had a drop. Bateman actually 400 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 2: had two drops. There was another one there in the 401 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: beginning of the fourth quarter that what wouldn't have been a. 402 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: First down third and eight. 403 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: Bateman tried to turn up the field a little too soon, 404 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: it looked like, and the ball hit the ground would 405 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: have made it a more manageable field goal attempt. But 406 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: Justin Tucker from fifty yards went wide left. 407 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: And you know, this is another game where you come out. 408 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: Of it and you are you know, is there a 409 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: concern about Justin Tucker? You know, he had one earlier 410 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: in the game that barely went in. It certainly looked 411 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: like Cleveland was a tough place to kick, and it's 412 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: historically known for that being very windy, tough place to kick. 413 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: There's things in the balls rattling around. 414 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what was going on with that, you. 415 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: Know, But again, this is gonna kind of spark the 416 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: conversation around Tucker, especially from deep a fifty yard field 417 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: goal that he misses in a critical situation that would 418 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: have tied the game of twenty. 419 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it as soon as you know, as soon as 420 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: you miss that, then you're kind of right back to 421 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: that conversation that we were having a month ago. I 422 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: don't feel I feel the same way now as I 423 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: did previously. I'm not really concerned about that, like on 424 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: my list of concerns here as we're looking at this 425 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 4: game that was relatively low. But it didn't seem like 426 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: he was getting much power off of those kicks. And 427 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's just because the wind was 428 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: driving those balls back or what, but it did not 429 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: seem like the ball was exploding off his foot like 430 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 4: it typically does. And even Jay Feey on the broadcast 431 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: made that point as well, a former kicker. 432 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: So there's some level. 433 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: So, I mean, the special teams as a whole did 434 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: not have a good day. There was that miss. 435 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: And on the multiple penalties on kick multiple and balls 436 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: that shouldn't have been brought out of the end zone. 437 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: John Harball said there's need to be a touchback. I mean, 438 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 439 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: Earlier in the year, Chris S. 440 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: Whorton said, yeah, if the balls in the en zone 441 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 2: were taking a touch back to the thirty and multiple times. 442 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: I mean they weren't deep in the end zone. It 443 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: was a decision kind of you know, it's a yard 444 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: two yards deep and those balls are brought back and 445 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, it's hard to get back 446 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: to the thirty period, and especially then when you take 447 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: penalties back to you up even more so. You know, 448 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Toma Wallace field and one on the sideline at like 449 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: the sixth a punt that I'm not sure, you know, 450 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: there's not much downside to let that one drop that, 451 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, just it felt like not a whole lot 452 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: went right for the Ravens on special teams other than 453 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: their coverage. 454 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and John Harbow did say after the game on 455 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 4: the two plays a kickoff returns that were both penalized 456 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: where Collier brought him out of the end zone is 457 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: that he should have stayed in the end zone on 458 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: this plays. Just stay in the end zone, take the 459 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: touch back, and take it at the thirty. 460 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: And that's part of the challenge. 461 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: Now on one of those they just drove ninety one yards, 462 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: didn't end up hurting the offense, but still you're putting 463 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: your offense in a bad position there if you're bringing 464 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 4: it out then you take the penalty on and now 465 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: you're starting at the nine yard line. That's exactly what 466 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 4: you do not want when you have a free thirty 467 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: yard starting's position to take. 468 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a twenty one yard penalty basically, Yeah, really bad, brutal. 469 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: And so you know, just not a lot went right 470 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: for the Ravens, and that's how you end up losing 471 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: to a team that had one win coming into the game. 472 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: That's how you end up with a twenty nine to 473 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: twenty four loss in Cleveland in a game I thought 474 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: you and I both thought it was gonna be tough 475 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 2: for then a lot of people expected, but you know, 476 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: none of us expected this result. And so the Ravens 477 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: now will come back to M ANDT Banks Stadium after 478 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: a two game road streak here, hopefully get healthy, got 479 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: to get those guys back in the secondary that should 480 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: certainly help this defense. And hope you get Michael Pierce 481 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: and Brent Urban also, and the Ravens will face the 482 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos team with rookie quarterback Bo Nicks. So a 483 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: lot of the same talking points, I think again this week, 484 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: what's going on in the defense, how do you get 485 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: it fixed? 486 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: And on top of it. 487 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: Some personnel decisions that I'm sure will be talked about 488 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: this week. So not the way you want it. A 489 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: lot of season left to be played, though, Garrett. Yeah, 490 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: we're only eight games in, We're about halfway through, and 491 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: you know it's gonna be a battle down the stretch. 492 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, it. 493 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: Was not the game that Ravens fans expected today. 494 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: I think when you look around the league, the Bengals 495 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 4: lost to the Eagles at home today pretty convincingly, so 496 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: that dropped them back a little bit. But that game 497 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 4: on Thursday night, I'm looking a couple of weeks ahead 498 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: now that's setting up to be a really big game 499 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: for both of those teams. And of course, the Ravens 500 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: still have both their games remaining with the Steelers, who 501 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: are playing on Monday night this week. They are currently 502 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 4: in first place in the division, so there's still. 503 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: Plenty of psting the New York Giants. 504 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: I mean, I really think this is a divisional race. 505 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 4: It's gonna come down to the final weeks. I mean, 506 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: this is gonna be a Week eighteen type battle for 507 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 4: this division. 508 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: And I think, just in closing for me, if the 509 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: Ravens are gonna get where they want to go, that's 510 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 2: the super Bowl. They have to play better defensively than this. Uh, 511 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: you know, offensive side, I think like Cleveland just attacks them. 512 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: Cleveland's like it just a touch a tough matchup. I 513 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: think for this Ravens offense, like it's just it's just 514 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 2: not a good matchup. And but defensively, no ways around it. 515 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: They have to play better than this defensively if they're 516 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: gonna if they're gonna get there. 517 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that. So, uh, send us 518 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 4: your emails. I asked for that begrudgingly. You know, I'm 519 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: nervous what the inbox is gonna look like after a game. 520 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: Mike this, we actually have some in there already. But 521 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: send us your emails to the lounge at Ravens dot 522 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: NFL dot net. Thank you so much for listening, and 523 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: we'll be back with you later this week.