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Speaker 1: This is the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is. It's good all right. Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen, twenty twenty five, thirty thirty.

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Speaker 2: Five, forty twenty five, fifty and the.

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Speaker 4: Kicks block Book, College Football World Standard.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's stumble the football, the lateral turner, General,

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Speaker 2: the jib.

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Speaker 4: Can't you believe I'm not came them up the field tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's not the sage of the dog.

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Speaker 3: In the fight.

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Speaker 2: It's the side of the fight in the doll. What's

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Speaker 2: up the general nation?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is the College Football Betting Preview, Part one.

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Speaker 3: I'm stucky with me as always as Colin Wilson. It's

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Speaker 3: good to be back. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Con we are officially back.

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Speaker 4: I can't even begin to discuss what college football life

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Speaker 4: is going to be like having fans back, having students back,

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Speaker 4: having bands back, having real actionable items without interference, and

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Speaker 4: for you and I to be back after you know,

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Speaker 4: starting off as Digen and Juice years ago, for all

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Speaker 4: of you have been listening and now having our college

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Speaker 4: football podcast continue on to the twenty twenty one season.

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Speaker 2: It's just a gift.

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Speaker 4: This is, like I've said this every year, and I'll

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Speaker 4: say it again, this is my most favorite thing to

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Speaker 4: do in the entire world, and I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 4: bring one hundred percent to every single thing we do.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we started down the path of Jen

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Speaker 3: and Juice twenty seventeen. So this our fifth year and

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Speaker 3: hopefully we can pick up where we left off last year.

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Speaker 3: It was a good Bowl season. We'll get to look

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Speaker 3: there might be virus concerns that we'll talk about some

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Speaker 3: of that. It's not necessarily gone, we do have. We

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Speaker 3: just get to everyone kind of a quick lay of

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Speaker 3: the land for this summer and what the podcast is

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Speaker 3: going to look like. We're gonna have previews for you know,

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Speaker 3: the SEC, the Big ten, the ACC, the PAC twelve,

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Speaker 3: the Big twelve. I kind of contemplated doing a sun

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Speaker 3: the pactals a really fascinating conference this year. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to that with right separate episodes. We'll have guests for most,

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Speaker 3: if not all of them. We'll have a group of

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Speaker 3: five podcasts as well. We'll go over all of our

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Speaker 3: favorite win totals go through almost every team, and then

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Speaker 3: you know, before we know it, week zero will be

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Speaker 3: here and we'll have a week zero preview, we'll sum

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Speaker 3: up all of our preseason bets, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: the regular cadence, we'll have a weekend kind of recap

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Speaker 3: preview episode that comes out Monday mornings, and then, as always,

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Speaker 3: our Thursday night episode that we record that comes out

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Speaker 3: on Friday mornings, so and one other. Okay, so this

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Speaker 3: is just kind of administrative things, but it's it's gonna

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Speaker 3: take some out from you might I think most of

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Speaker 3: you will actually like the change. In early August, there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be several new podcasts debuting here at Action Network.

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Speaker 3: We'll have an NBA betting podcast, one for golf, one

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Speaker 3: for fantasy football with Raybon and Kerner, and we'll also

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Speaker 3: have one just dedicated for college football and basketball betting.

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Speaker 3: So if you'd like to listen to us, all you

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Speaker 3: have to do is just subscribe that. We're basically just

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Speaker 3: if you don't like golf betting or fantasy like, just

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Speaker 3: all your college football and college basketball episodes are gonna

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Speaker 3: be on that channel. You know, we have an NFL one.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to hear the two of us

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Speaker 3: subscribe to a new podcast. We'll have all the details

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Speaker 3: when that happens. It'll happen sometime in August. And then

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Speaker 4: Get a college specific channel for our podcast is going

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Speaker 4: to be fantastic. It's going to be continue to be

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Speaker 2: Feed, We're going to do and win.

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Speaker 4: The time is ready, we'll tell everybody to switch over

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Speaker 4: and by looking at your list of wind totals and

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Speaker 3: Colin did also catch up with start. Mandel talked some

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Speaker 2: So woo pick Sully. How was the summer?

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Speaker 3: Very well, said I just had. I just got back

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Speaker 4: Obviously last year college football is getting weird.

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Speaker 4: of what TARP really means.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: All right, so let's get into the high level and

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Speaker 3: we'll cover all that as we go through all these

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Speaker 3: teams in conferences and clarify some more. But it's high

440
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Speaker 3: level of the land. This is not going to come

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Speaker 3: to much of a surprise. There's three teams that really

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Speaker 3: have dominated the college ball playoff landscape. That's Alabama, Clempston,

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Speaker 3: and Ohio State. They were responsible for sixteen of the

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Speaker 3: twenty eight college football playoff spots and six of the

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Speaker 3: seven national titles. And I'm gonna tell you what, if

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Speaker 3: I had a barometer up here to say whether you

447
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Speaker 3: were give an effort or not, it was about fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: Why did you push yourself?

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Speaker 3: Jo Pama? Is what plus two to fifty to win

450
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Speaker 3: it all? Clemson's around four to one, Ohio States around

451
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Speaker 3: five six to one. Those are your three favorites, as

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Speaker 3: you know, even the most casual fan could have predicted. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then you have Georgia and Oklahoma, which is kind

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Speaker 3: of that next tier. And you know, wouldn't shock me

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Speaker 3: if at the end of the year that's the argument,

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Speaker 3: all right, who gets that fourth spot. In the future,

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Speaker 3: we won't have to worry about that with an expanded playoff,

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Speaker 3: But for this year there's only four and then there's

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Speaker 3: a big drop off and then you're you're talking about

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Speaker 3: teams that are thirty forty to one. But you know,

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Speaker 3: and I look at Alabama, Clemson in Ohio State and

462
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Speaker 3: Satan what he has six national titles that Alabama won

463
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Speaker 3: at all Sea he only repeated once and that was

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Speaker 3: back in twenty eleven twelve when the continuity and there

465
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Speaker 3: were you know, there was a lot more continuity on

466
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Speaker 3: that team than there was this year. We were sellers

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Speaker 3: at Bama a couple of years ago with all of

468
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Speaker 3: the you know, all of the personnel losses, the continuity,

469
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Speaker 3: the lack of continuity from a coordinator perspective, and you

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Speaker 3: have some of that again this year. And do you

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Speaker 3: buy Bryce young. Look, their defense is going to be loaded,

472
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Speaker 3: but and they're going to reload everywhere no matter what.

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Speaker 3: But they lost a lot of talent at wide receiver

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Speaker 3: of the past two years and a generational player like

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Speaker 3: DeVante Smith. So you know, this isn't Bama of last year.

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Speaker 3: Going into it, we said las year bat revenge towards

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Speaker 3: stay away. I didn't, I didn't have any national title,

478
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Speaker 3: features didn't touch I was Bama's year. I'm okay finding

479
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Speaker 3: ways to fade them this year, which we'll get into

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Speaker 3: Clemson has. I have questions about Clemson mainly, Look, you know,

481
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Speaker 3: their defense should be really good. They have the coordinator continuity,

482
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Speaker 3: the poster child for that. But one of my things

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Speaker 3: of Clemson quarterback depth they have none right now. So

484
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Speaker 3: if Ukulele gets hurt, their primary backup in the spring tours, Achilles,

485
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Speaker 3: their third string got drafted and just signed with the Pirates,

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Speaker 3: so he's not coming back. So I think Hunter Helms

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Speaker 3: will walk on. Is the backup if Ugulele gets hurt.

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Speaker 3: This isn't like Trevor Lawrence gets hurt and you have

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Speaker 3: you know, a five star coming in their quarterback depth

490
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Speaker 3: is is worrisome to me. And they didn't get anyone

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Speaker 3: else in the transfer portal, So I think Clemson. Look,

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Speaker 3: they're heavy, heavy favorites when the ACC I think the

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Speaker 3: fine it's nine hundred. But as far as like here's

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Speaker 3: a lot to win the national title, do I think

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Speaker 3: that there you know, could be vulnerable Ifukuilely goes down. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Ohio State the other end, they don't have a quarter

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Speaker 3: don't a pass at this level, so you know there's

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Speaker 3: Stroud's going to be up there in the Heisman out boards. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're obviously going to be really good, but it's they

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Speaker 3: have questions too, so potential opportunities in the futures market,

501
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Speaker 3: whether you want a better team to go to the

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Speaker 3: comfortable clop national title. We'll get into all that, but

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Speaker 3: I think that this isn't like last year where we

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Speaker 3: were just saying Bama, Bama, Bama. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 3: on just the those top three and where who might

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Speaker 3: be vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's sad from a perspective that when you and

508
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Speaker 4: I started this podcast we made fun of the NBA

509
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Speaker 4: all the time because it was too predictable because we

510
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Speaker 4: knew exactly who was going to be in finals for

511
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Speaker 4: nine months of the year. And now, sadly enough, the

512
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Speaker 4: NBA has got the Suns and the Bucks and we

513
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Speaker 4: are staring at potentially just only six teams that can

514
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Speaker 4: win the national title. It's like we've done a college rouble,

515
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Speaker 4: has done a complete flip with the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Is as far as predictability.

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Speaker 4: I think you know to comment on the top three teams,

518
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Speaker 4: the ones that we know that are always there. The

519
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Speaker 4: price on Clemson right now is just outrageously overpriced. It's

520
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Speaker 4: the books way of saying, we don't want any risk

521
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Speaker 4: in this cupcake conference. The defense this might be the

522
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Speaker 4: best in the nation, returning over ninety percent to a

523
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Speaker 4: unit that was seventh and success rate and second in havoc,

524
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Speaker 4: but it's important to know week to week if offenses

525
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Speaker 4: are going to go to the sugar huddle Ala Ohio State,

526
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Speaker 4: which means we don't break the huddle. We don't tip

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Speaker 4: off our hand what our formation is and what our

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Speaker 4: play is going to be. There's been games, Pitt, There's

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Speaker 4: been teams in the Conference North Carolina that have beaten

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Speaker 4: Clemson during regular season play. Sugar huddling has been a

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Speaker 4: part of it. And if Brent Vinnables is not stealing signs,

532
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Speaker 4: then hey, you're going to get output. Like last year

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Speaker 4: Boston College got twenty eight points on the board against

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Speaker 4: this defense. October second is a huge day for Clemson.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you about the depth of quarterback behind DJ.

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Speaker 4: It's the same reason I've had people all over me

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Speaker 4: like why haven't you taken Arkansas over five and a half?

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Speaker 4: If kJ Jefferson gets hurt, there's nobody, there's nobody, right,

539
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Speaker 4: So it's the same thing with Clemson. I can't put

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Speaker 4: an overticket or buy into futures where there's no depth

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Speaker 4: and that you know, we come to Ohio State. This

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Speaker 4: is they're the class of the Big Ten Conference Division futures.

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Speaker 4: When they first appeared, I was all over them and

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Speaker 4: this is just this is way too low for a team.

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Speaker 4: You know, when Justin Fields came in to have spring ball,

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Speaker 4: I think he went like four to thirteen and we said, oh,

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields can't do it.

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Speaker 2: A little bit different with CJ. Stroud. He has a

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Speaker 2: magnificent spring game.

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Speaker 4: He has the best receiving core in the nation led

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Speaker 4: by Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave. There isn't a defensive

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Speaker 4: trench in the conference that can challenge these offensive players.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry the offensive line, Theayir Munford, Harry Miller, Rashid Walls.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about guys that are ready to be drafted

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Speaker 4: in the NFL and the offensive line. There really aren't

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Speaker 4: many secondaries that contain their passing game. I think Indiana

557
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Speaker 4: got way too hot and way too overrated last year.

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Speaker 4: You know, Indiana is like the worst secondary outside of Rutgers.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know who's challenging Ohio State. Penn State

560
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Speaker 4: has an unbelievably tough schedule. I don't like what's going

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Speaker 4: on with Kirk Saraka getting you know, basically abandoned his

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator because Mike Yoursitch was on the market. Going

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Speaker 4: back to Ohio State, they're moving to a new scheme,

564
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Speaker 4: the bullet position a four two five, and they won

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Speaker 4: a floater to act like rocn Smith of Georgia a

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Speaker 4: few years ago and Isaiah Simmons of Clemson. You need

567
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Speaker 4: a player that can play in the secondary line up,

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Speaker 4: in the linebackers or put a hand down on the

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Speaker 4: line and play on the defensive line as an edge.

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Speaker 4: And Ohio State needs that player. Why because everybody's gone

571
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Speaker 4: rpo versus play action and RPOs ran by quarterbacks that

572
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Speaker 4: are heavily talented in space can only be stopped by

573
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Speaker 4: Isaiah Simmons and Roquan Smith's. Ohio State hasn't identified that player,

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Speaker 4: but at least they've been flirting with a.

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Speaker 2: Four two five and they're moving that way. So I

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Speaker 2: do still kind of like them.

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Speaker 4: And I keep hearing about Jack Sawyer NFL ready true freshman,

578
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Speaker 4: this defense is low to a success rate, and have it.

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Speaker 4: Ohio State's going to be there in the end. Alabama,

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Speaker 4: you're right as time if you get a fade him,

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Speaker 4: this is the year. And you know you do a

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Speaker 4: lot of that are of our NFL content stuck in

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Speaker 4: And I just got to say, bill O'Brien coming in,

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Speaker 4: I don't think as big of a negative as people

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Speaker 4: think because Bill O'Brien ran the offense called the plays

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Speaker 4: for the Houston Texans, and they were the heaviest usage

587
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Speaker 4: of twelve in the entire league. They love two tight

588
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Speaker 4: end sets, and now he's coming into an Alabama program

589
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Speaker 4: where Stark like really pushed up the two tight end

590
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Speaker 4: sets for Alabama. And I know that they've got you know,

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Speaker 4: a new quarterback, new coordinator. They've lost a ton on

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Speaker 4: the offensive line, but this is still a defensive back

593
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Speaker 4: seven that returns Christian Harris, will Anderson, Josh Job. I

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Speaker 4: think the Week one line against Miami is extremely high.

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Speaker 4: I think that should be a more like minus, you know,

596
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Speaker 4: not near as high as it is, but there is potential.

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Speaker 4: The Deer King doesn't play in that game, which is

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Speaker 4: why I haven't touched it. But you're right, this is

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Speaker 4: the spot too, if you're gonna fade Alabama.

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Speaker 2: This is year.

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Speaker 4: The win totals too high, everything's too high. But you

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Speaker 4: know what, I think last year may have been the

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Speaker 4: greatest college football team we've ever seen. I mean one

604
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Speaker 4: and covered almost who plays ten sec games and wins

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Speaker 4: and covers everything. So yeah, I agree with you on

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Speaker 4: those three teams. I think out of the bunch, I

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Speaker 4: like Ohio State the most I'm not worried at all

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Speaker 4: about the switch to quarterback of CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud. I'm not worried about the four two five.

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Speaker 4: But also I think the entire division and their schedule

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Speaker 4: lines up nice for them to be firing on all

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Speaker 4: cylinders by the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I still I still do have some

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Speaker 3: questions about the Ohio State back seven. So and but

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Speaker 3: that you know, you can get through the Big Ten

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Speaker 3: with questions there, right, Who's really gonna shred you in

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Speaker 3: the Big Ten? From a passing game perspective, you don't

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Speaker 3: really have to worry about it then. But when you

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Speaker 3: get to the College TWLD playoff, you're presumably going to

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Speaker 3: be facing an elite passing attack. We saw the secondary

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Speaker 3: struggle last year. Look, Sewan Wade went to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He was he won. I think he was the first

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Speaker 3: of All American, which he shouldn't have been. The Ravens

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Speaker 3: drafted him. He was out of position, he should have

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Speaker 3: been playing the slot.

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Speaker 2: He had a bad year.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's that big of a loss from

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Speaker 3: where he was playing. The Zegrator didn't play great and

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Speaker 3: they lost all three starting linebackers. So I want to

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Speaker 3: see what Kerry Coombs can do with this, because they

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Speaker 3: look Jeff Haffley came in to fix the defense for

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Speaker 3: a year and they were great, and then he left

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Speaker 3: for BC. I think that's going to pay dividends for BC,

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Speaker 3: and they're headed in the right direction. That's where I

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Speaker 3: would worry about Ohio State. I still think they get

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Speaker 3: to the College twelve playoff. We'll get to our predictions later.

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Speaker 3: I've just spoiled one of mine, but that's no surprise.

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Speaker 3: But I have questions if they get there.

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Speaker 3: But let's start well before we get into let's run

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Speaker 3: through each conference real quick trivia time. Top five we'll

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Speaker 3: do top of bottom. See if you can get one

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Speaker 3: of them. One of the five top against the spread

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Speaker 3: teams over the past five years. UAB UAB is number six.

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Speaker 3: Welcome on, So I'll give it to you. I'll give

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Speaker 3: it to you for getting sick. They are like percentage

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Speaker 3: points behind Utah, Buffalo, Eastern Michigan, Wyoming and LSU are

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Speaker 3: the top five. LSU really benefit from that one year

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Speaker 3: they covered almost every game. And then there's Iowa, Stay,

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Speaker 3: Liberty Temple some of the podcasts favorite teams which I

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Speaker 3: was good to see, and Clemson bottom five. This one

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Speaker 3: should be easier. Can name one of the bottom five?

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Speaker 2: Can we go with you Mass? You Mass? Didn't you Messed?

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Speaker 3: I should have clarified you Mess didn't qualify for games?

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Speaker 3: So not excluding you Mass.

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Speaker 2: And you excluding you Mass in Yukon, you're taking it

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Speaker 2: away from me. I almost I almost wanted to go

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Speaker 2: with UTEP.

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Speaker 4: They seem to be our, our darlings that we picked

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Speaker 4: on for so many years.

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Speaker 1: We're talking minor nation out in the West town of

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Speaker 1: the past.

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Speaker 4: Picks up I could make a case for Rice in

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Speaker 4: the transition. I will go with Kansas. I will absolutely

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Speaker 4: go with Kansas.

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Speaker 2: In correct, Kansas is sixth to six.

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Speaker 3: But you're I'll give you credit, Tod because UTEP is correct.

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Speaker 3: UTEP was in the top five. The worst is Achron,

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Speaker 3: by the way, So my Acron boys, which is who

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Speaker 3: have tortured me. They're thirty percent against the spread over

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Speaker 3: the last five years. Arizona is in the in the

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Speaker 3: bottom five Bowling Green and Tennessee, which has tortured us

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Speaker 3: a couple of times and when they should have covered

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Speaker 3: and didn't and then just also getting blown out.

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Speaker 2: But your boss five.

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Speaker 4: Possibly the worst second half team in the history of

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Speaker 4: sports gambling man.

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Speaker 3: I hate them all right, Well, let's get in. Let

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Speaker 3: us quickly run through before we get to our some

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Speaker 3: of our favorite wind totals in futures.

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Speaker 6: Here, it just means more.

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Speaker 3: SEC when you look at it. Look, we talked about Bama.

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Speaker 3: We think they're maybe vulnerable. They're minus one seventy to

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Speaker 3: win the SEC to you were just second at plus

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Speaker 3: two twenty five. This is a conference that has you know,

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Speaker 3: six there's six teams with new offensive and defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 3: There's four new head coaches. Do we see some drop

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Speaker 3: off with Bama? Do you have questions about Bryce Young?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We've just went over this. We think that they could

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Speaker 3: be a little more vulnerable than you, you know, your

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Speaker 3: normal Alabama dominant team still clearly the favorite. I don't

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Speaker 3: think Georgia could be stopped in the East. Uh with

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Speaker 3: Florida with all of their talent that they've lost on offense.

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Speaker 3: I think Georgia is getting to the SEC championship game,

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Speaker 3: and you know who can challenge Alabama maybe Texas A

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Speaker 3: and M. Look, this is it's gonna come down to

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Speaker 3: their quarterback. You know, Ken is king or kills out.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they've that that competition is over yet.

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Speaker 3: Kellen Mond in some ways, Look, he was drafted, he

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Speaker 3: was great for four years. Held Texas A and him

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Speaker 3: back in some aspects, right, he was great at home,

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Speaker 3: just kind of limited in what they would do downfield.

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Speaker 3: So if look, if one of these very talented quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: can step up, and also they had a lot of

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Speaker 3: offensive line losses. But this is Jimbo's fourth year, it's

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Speaker 3: twenty won a national title at Florida State. All of

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Speaker 3: his recruiter A here, the defense should be loaded the

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Speaker 3: you know, they're obviously with Spillering Company, they can run

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Speaker 3: the ball. They have you know, all their weapons on

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Speaker 3: the outside are going to be healthy. They have great

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Speaker 3: tight end. So if the quarterback works out, they host

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Speaker 3: Alabama and they have a couple of games that they

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Speaker 3: can kind of you know, get their quarterback whoever wins

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Speaker 3: that job into the flow.

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Speaker 2: So they're an interesting team with upside.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're asking a lot of whoever's coming

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Speaker 3: in to start a quarterback, but maybe they can pick

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Speaker 3: off Bama, you know in college station. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: not crazy for me if you wanted to say that.

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Speaker 1: I don't support just keep fighting with us Warren quitting

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Speaker 1: on you play, don't quit on us.

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Speaker 3: So but I think that really it's again your top

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Speaker 3: teams in the SEC. It doesn't really go much further

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Speaker 3: than to me, what is kind of your your take

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Speaker 3: of the SEC overall?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you look for a challenger at Alabama. Certainly, I

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Speaker 4: don't think the Hogs are ready at that point yet.

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Speaker 4: They don't have the depth and they definitely don't have

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Speaker 4: the statistics. Who does have the statistics in the West

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Speaker 4: Texas A and M. Does my win totals at nine

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Speaker 4: point two. The bet MGM number is nine and a half,

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Speaker 4: so there's really no play there. There's plenty of turnover

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Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball from Kellen Mond

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Speaker 4: to the trench. The pro style offense was top fifteen

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Speaker 4: in success rate and in havoc allowed. But the question

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Speaker 4: is at quarterback, Like you said, Haines King, he can

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Speaker 4: be the explosive quarterback Zach Calzada, he can be the

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Speaker 4: play action heavy offense with the he's got the arm

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Speaker 4: to do it all and do explosive plays to the

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Speaker 4: Demon Demas and Nia Smith or probably what is now

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Speaker 4: the new best tight end to all the sec and

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Speaker 4: Jalen Widmeyer. So you know, if Texas A and M

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Speaker 4: can get a bump in expected points along with maintaining

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Speaker 4: their already high success rate, then they are a challenger

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Speaker 4: to Alabama.

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Speaker 2: But we need to.

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Speaker 4: Revisit this, say mid August, and see what's going on

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Speaker 4: with the quarterback battle some of the reports coming out

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Speaker 4: of there, because I have to see explosiveness and I

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Speaker 4: need to see playmakers on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Georgia, you and I have always joked about this.

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Speaker 4: If we could take the Georgia defense and put it

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Speaker 4: with the Oklahoma offense, we'd have a national championship.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 4: So Georgia is still the most talented defense in the

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Speaker 4: nation outside of maybe Clemson transfers. Dearian Kendrick comes in

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Speaker 4: from Clemson, huge, huge corner, which is a point I'm

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Speaker 4: going to get to about the SEC. You are not

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Speaker 4: going to win this league unless you have corners and

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Speaker 4: edge rushers. The growth of Nolan Smith is needed. They

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Speaker 4: had a top thirty rank in defensive finishing drives. But listen,

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Speaker 4: everybody knows the defense is always going to be good.

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Speaker 4: It's the offensive side of the ball where the changes

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Speaker 4: are being made by offensive coordinator Todd Mounkin.

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Speaker 2: With JT.

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Speaker 4: Daniels in the fold, the Bulldogs are now going to

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Speaker 4: start passing in standard downs. They were just too predictable.

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Speaker 4: They always ran in standard downs. It was, you know,

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Speaker 4: very predictable by a lot of defenses. It can load

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Speaker 4: up in the box and standard downs back off and

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Speaker 4: passing downs, and so now Georgia can pass on first

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Speaker 4: down to explosive targets that they have even without Pickens there,

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Speaker 4: they still have explosive wide receivers. So you're gonna hear

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Speaker 4: about LSU transfer Arie Gilbert probably the best tight end

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Speaker 4: in college football. Karris Jackson at wide receiver has talent

807
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Speaker 4: to burn secondaries, and you're gonna have to have a

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Speaker 4: secondary in the SEC. So I think Georgia is absolutely loaded.

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Speaker 4: Florida is not even close. And like I said, the

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Speaker 4: conference is loaded with edge rushers and shut down corners

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Speaker 4: that are NFL ready. Who's one of those teams Lsus

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Speaker 4: Stingley and Rix playing corner, those are two of the

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Speaker 4: best in the nation, not the SEC and not in

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Speaker 4: the West, in the nation. So the addition of Mike

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Speaker 4: Jones junior from Clemson is a big bump and pass defense.

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Speaker 4: I think people should realize that linebacker Mike Jones Junior

817
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Speaker 4: was one of the best coverage linebackers.

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Speaker 2: In the nation.

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Speaker 4: So that makes LSU's past defense extremely good. I slast

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Speaker 4: some questions. I think, you know, we'll try to talk

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Speaker 4: to some of our buddies in the SEC when we

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Speaker 4: have our SEC preview, but you're gonna have to have

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Speaker 4: shut down corners, Smoke Monday, Roger McCreery. They're in the

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Speaker 4: defensive backfield for Brian Harrison at Auburn, for a defense,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna, you know, everything's gonna have to start rebuilding

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Speaker 4: under him. These are players that you have to have.

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Speaker 4: Treylon Burks from Arkansas, Kayshawn Booty from LSU. These are

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Speaker 4: offensive players that will tear you apart if you don't

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Speaker 4: have the secondary or the edge rushers. So from an

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Speaker 4: SEC perspective, I'll let you. I'll let you take the

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Speaker 4: reins on Georgia here sometime during the podcast. But Alabama,

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna fade him, this is a year Texas

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Speaker 4: A and M. I will reserve judgment until we see

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Speaker 4: what plays out with this quarterback battle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's you brought up Todd Munkey.

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Speaker 3: This is his second year. You know, we talked about

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Speaker 3: you know, last year I was difficult to implement a

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Speaker 3: new scheme. And this is a one to eighty for Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Not only that they were planning for JT. Newman to

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Speaker 3: be the quarterback, right, that's a whole different skill set

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Speaker 3: them where they ended up at the end of the

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Speaker 3: year with JT. Daniels right, and then they had who's

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Speaker 3: still their back stetson Bennett He's still he's celeber. They

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Speaker 3: had sets in Bennett and then and then at the end.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just to illustrate how much of a different

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Speaker 3: they now have a national title offense. They threw under

847
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Speaker 3: Kirby Smart five in the five seasons before last year,

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Speaker 3: they had four three hundred yard passing games in five years.

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Speaker 3: JJ Daniels did it twice in four games. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that they're Look, they lost Pickens, I still

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Speaker 3: think they have enough twent on the outside. Some question

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Speaker 3: about the offensive line, but I think it's this from

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Speaker 3: a scheme perspective. They have their quarterback. Pickens couldn't even

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Speaker 3: be back for the College Twall Playoff, and you know

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Speaker 3: there was questions at corner. I mean, their top four corners,

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00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: the top four defensive backs either were drafted or transferred.

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Speaker 3: Bringing in an All acc corner from cleb it is

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Speaker 3: just huge.

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Speaker 2: It's just it.

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Speaker 3: It shures up so much and they can just get one,

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Speaker 3: you know, Ringo or young corner to step up.

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Speaker 2: The other side.

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Speaker 3: Boom defense is top one or two in the country.

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Speaker 3: I think that the way to play Georgia, and I'll

865
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: just get into spoiling. One of my futures is to

866
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: get to eight to one. One of the futures that

867
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: I bet in Vegas love it because I think that

868
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: there's or I don't see a market for this yet.

869
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: Get to the College tell Playoff because I think that

870
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: no matter what, they're gonna win their division. But if

871
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: they beat Clemson in the first game and they're gonna

872
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 3: be what are they a four or five point underdog,

873
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: they can easily win that game. They win that game,

874
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 3: you have a win over Clemson to start the year.

875
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: You can drop another one. You could even beat Clemson,

876
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: lose competitor game in Alabama and lose another one. That

877
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: could it gives you a lot of leeway. Or they

878
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: could lose to Clemson. They're still going to get to

879
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: the SEC Championship. You beat Imma, there you're in again.

880
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot of ways that Georgia

881
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: can get into the College Football Playoff. And then it's

882
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: instead of playing Texas A and M. Look if you're

883
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: gonna play text A and M. I think there's two

884
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: ways to do it. Because I agree I don't see

885
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: any value in the wind total. You either play a

886
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 3: thirty to forty to one to win the national title

887
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: and you say you know this team, you're buying the

888
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: quarterback up side. If the quarterback works out, this team

889
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: is loaded, they can win the SEC. They could win

890
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: it all. Just a lot of uncertainty with a quarterback

891
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: kind of an important position, or you do. What I

892
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: did is a lot it's you know, a lot less risky.

893
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: I bet Alabama under eleven and a half, which is

894
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: kind of correlated with TEXTA, A and M because over

895
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: because if text A ANDM beats Alabama, they're gonna go over.

896
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: And it's probably Alabama's toughest game on the year. But

897
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: I can see. Look, I think Alabama the win total

898
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 3: is eleven and a half. I'm closer to like ten four.

899
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: I think you're right there, ten to five. And I

900
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: could see I don't see this team going undefeated. The

901
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: Florida's way down. Alan's to go to the Swamp, they

902
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: have to go to All at the end of the year,

903
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: and then they go to Texas A and M. I

904
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: think they drop one of those three games. Most likely

905
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: it's at Texas A and M. But that's how I

906
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: kind of played the SEC as far as from from

907
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: the top. But yeah, I mean Georgia now has a

908
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: national championship caliber offense.

909
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the one task that you and

910
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: I have, I mean the Clemson Georgia game in Week one.

911
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 4: It's something that I power rate around six. I've seen

912
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 4: some other respectable power rankings make it around six. I

913
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: think the number is floating between three and a half

914
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 4: and five and a half. So we need to make

915
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 4: a determination who we really think wins that game, because

916
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: a loser of that game is deserve it of a

917
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 4: national championship.

918
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: Bet right, whoever loses between them?

919
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 4: So if we think Georgia is gonna win that game,

920
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 4: then you're gonna have to make it n now. Yeah,

921
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 4: you buy them now and then you take Clemson after

922
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 4: so that that'll be a big to do for us.

923
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: So before we get to week one, and you know,

924
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 4: I think that's the only way to play. And you're

925
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: right on the on the Alabama I projection is ten

926
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: point four on the win total, and you know, if

927
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: you don't know what that is, you have a certain

928
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: percentage that you're gonna win for each individual game. You

929
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 4: had all those up and that came out to ten

930
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: point four, nowhere close to what their number is at

931
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 4: eleven and a half.

932
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: But what's the better bet?

933
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 4: Taking an under eleven and a half minus one ten

934
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: or trying to go through their schedule week to week

935
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: and guessing which one of the underdogs is going to

936
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: catch them in a spot.

937
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: Is it going to be old miss who's lying at

938
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: plus to seventy one week? You know? I mean, that's

939
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: what you have to do.

940
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 4: If you don't take the under eleven half, it's easier

941
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 4: to take the under eleven half that it is trying

942
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: to predict which one of the teams in the West

943
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: or on the schedule is going to beat them.

944
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: Well, and then look, I thought that we should bring

945
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: up Now you bet Alabama under eleven and a half.

946
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: They have twelve games of their schedule, they go eleven

947
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 3: and oh they get a game canceled because of COVID

948
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: because these games are being forfeited. Now, I don't know

949
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 3: what the sc is going to do if this whatever

950
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: happen in the SCU with Alabama.

951
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: They would they might.

952
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: I can't, but you never know. This is just is

953
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: for other teams too. You check your book for those rules,

954
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: because they end up playing eleven games. You have over

955
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: eleven and a half and they went at eleven and oh,

956
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: you could be a loser. Let's transition. We I've mentioned

957
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: Clemson ACC. Clemson look going for their seventh straight College

958
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 3: Wall playoff appear it's seventh straight ACC title. Loaded on defense.

959
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 3: We talked about ugulele Is phenomenal prospect, played last year,

960
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: looked great at Notre Dame, spectacular quarterback. The question is

961
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: their quarterback depth. We talked about their backup went down

962
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: in the spring and then Bubble Chandler signed with the Pirates.

963
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: They will walk on behind him, but their minus nine

964
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: hundred to win the ACC. It's you know, it's their division.

965
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: On the other side, it's a little more interesting with

966
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: who is going to take the coastal because we've had

967
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: seven different coastal winners over the past seven years.

968
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: That's amazing, which is insane.

969
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: And obviously Notre Dame is no longer in the a SEC.

970
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: They had a one one year stop and that's pretty

971
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 3: much going to be you'd think between UNC and Miami,

972
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: Miami has major revenge they got in Bars, but they

973
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: are going to UNC this year. You know, deer King

974
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: is the healthy. UNC lost a ton of talent at

975
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: the skill positions, right They lost their top two backs

976
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: in the NFL, their top two receivers, but sam Hal's

977
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: back defense should be better. Those are your two teams

978
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: that are probably going to battle it out for the coastal.

979
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: By the way, I do have to say this, Dabo, kids.

980
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: Are getting paid. You're still there. What happened?

981
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: And now he's against the college will playoff expansion? Call

982
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: him on, dude, like he said, there's not twelve teams

983
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: that are good enough to get it.

984
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: Then beat them. Who gives a fuck? Beat him?

985
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: Beata, Then play that extra game and win it.

986
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: It's it. Everyone will watch it. It's more exposure for

987
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: your program. You already play an ACC schedule. What are

988
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: you worried?

989
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 3: What are you worried about playing another team that's about

990
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: the fifteenth best team? Be better than any team you

991
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: play in their whole schedule? Oh crimea river, Dabo.

992
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: There you go see.

993
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: There creat a great conversation. I'd like some time out.

994
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: I'd like to take a nap, y'all remember first grade.

995
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: I love that we should have adult time out time.

996
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: You know, let's just all bring a matt, take a nap,

997
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: and be good. So I never had a passifire though,

998
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: so I don't know how that work out.

999
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: What do you see in the ACC you're discussed for

1000
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: Dabo continues to rise a year after year, and I

1001
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: cannot wait till it's like twenty twenty four and he

1002
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 4: takes over the job at Alabama for for for say,

1003
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 4: save and finally retires. But you know, I think in

1004
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: the ACC it's like if Clemson does get injury to

1005
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 4: DJ and they're going to drop a game. It seems

1006
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 4: that Boston College is the hot name on the market

1007
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: in the Atlantic Division. Jeff halfleys in year two with

1008
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 4: Phil Jerkovic arguably one of the top four quarterbacks in

1009
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: the conference.

1010
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: There's no bull that.

1011
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm a yeah buyer.

1012
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I mean, boy, how Brian Kelly

1013
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: let him go. That's the whole reason why they separate

1014
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: with offensive coordinator back. We'll get to Notre Dame later,

1015
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 4: but no Miami or un C on the schedule for

1016
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: Boston College. The defense has The defense is the problem.

1017
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 4: The defense is why I'm off their win total. This

1018
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 4: might be the worst defensive front seven unit in the conference.

1019
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: They carry over eighty percent returning from twenty twenty. The

1020
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 4: defense was one hundred and tenth in success rate. That's

1021
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 4: a big indicator of winning against the spread. I just

1022
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: put out an article this week on what are the

1023
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: five factors of football? How do they apply to against

1024
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: the spread? So what I did over the last five

1025
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: years is I took against the spread records. I carved

1026
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: out what they did in success rate, explosiveness, havoc and

1027
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 4: finishing drives. Turns out defensive success rate biggest indicator to

1028
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: what year against the spread number is. So if Boston

1029
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: College is still sitting at one hundred and tenth, I

1030
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: have a hard time taking them on their win total.

1031
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: And they're a hot name right now, so I don't

1032
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: think there's any market value. Not only was there defensive

1033
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: havoc ninety third, but the offensive havoc allowed with seventieth.

1034
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 4: The offensive line needs to create a cleaner pocket and

1035
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 4: the defense has to stop the chains. If that happens,

1036
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: Boston College can have a magical season. But I'm not

1037
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: going to betting into a Florida state for me complete

1038
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 4: wildcard one hundred and fourteenth in defensive success rate. There

1039
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: isn't much floor left for this defense. McKenzie milton. I mean,

1040
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: you want to talk wildcards. It hasn't played since twenty eighteen.

1041
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 4: But you know, in the offense was outside the top

1042
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: one hundred havoc allowed. How is this offensive line that

1043
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: they've been trying to retool every year for the Siminals.

1044
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 4: I could be able to protect Milton, who's off a

1045
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 4: three year injury. I do like Mike Norville as a coach.

1046
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: I do like him in year two restructuring the Seminals.

1047
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: But you have to Milton clean to make this team

1048
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: worth an investment. And it's funny here in dear King

1049
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: and Mackenzie Milton are both in an NIL partnership right now,

1050
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 4: and so financially, I bet King wants Milton to stay

1051
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 4: healthy too. You're right about Coastal Miami Carolina. That's all

1052
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: it is.

1053
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: We don't need to even discuss the other teams. That's

1054
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: a big game.

1055
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 4: Miami comes off a bye to go play North Carolina,

1056
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 4: and you know you and Sealey straight off the Florida

1057
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: State game. Can they replace Michael Carter, Javonte Williams, Diami Brown,

1058
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: Dazz Newsom. I think that there isn't going to be

1059
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: that big of a drop off with ty Chandler bo Corrales.

1060
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 4: There's some talent in freshman skill positions. Recruit has been

1061
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 4: going well for Mac Brown I like both these teams,

1062
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: but the bypoint was Miami plus one seventy to win

1063
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 4: the division. That number has dried up in a lot

1064
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 4: of places down to plus one thirty because that's what

1065
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: the money line you're gonna get when they go to

1066
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: play North Carolina. So if you see in Miami plus

1067
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: one thirty five one forty or better to win the Coastal,

1068
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: that's a play.

1069
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean Jami Brown's his brother actually even be

1070
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: faster than him. Who's who's coming in there at wide receiver?

1071
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, GC, I agree. Yeah.

1072
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 4: Should we mention one last thing? Should we mention the

1073
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 4: Virginia Techs and be the first one to fire a coach?

1074
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 4: I mean this, this whole Justin Hamilton promotion from the

1075
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 4: secondary after Bud Foster retire is not going well. Outside

1076
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: the top one er defensive finishing drives this whole Virginia

1077
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 4: Tech mystique with the Metallica playing and all that shit.

1078
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: Like I think Justin Wentz is out fast.

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00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see it. I mean all the transfers

1080
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: that keep that you keep hearing about there over the

1081
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 3: past two years or I just think are indicative of

1082
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: what's going on behind the scenes with Tech at Boston

1083
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: College with the win til I think it's seven over

1084
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: seven juice like minus one thirty minus one forty if

1085
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: you want to make a case when they haven't won

1086
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: eight games in two thousand and nine. If you want

1087
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: to make a case for them, look it's Jerkovic, an

1088
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 3: offensive line that might be one of the best in

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00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: the nation. They struggled a times if they were learning

1090
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: a new scheme. Right, they were going to more zone

1091
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: run scheme. Did a new offensive coordinator, Signeti, who came

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00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: in from the NFL. They lose Bailey, but I think

1093
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: they have quicker backs that will work better in that scheme,

1094
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 3: and all their receivers come back. We know about Jerikovic.

1095
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: Their defense wasn't great last year, and look, they lose

1096
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: the Richardson and McDuffie at linebacker, which isn't great. They

1097
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: were two of the most productive linebackers. But it's year

1098
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: two of Halfley, so and he's the secondary guy who

1099
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: I expect their secondary to continue to get better each year.

1100
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: It's their second year that scheme, so how much of

1101
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: a bump can VC have?

1102
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: Right?

1103
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: It's year one of the new scheme last year and

1104
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: I thought that they did really well. And one of

1105
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: the things that I loved about BC last year is.

1106
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 2: They missed I think that they had.

1107
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: They lost zero games to COVID, and part of that

1108
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: might be luck, but like it shows me that the

1109
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: culture is changing there at Boston College. So and they

1110
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: only have one unwinnable road game on their schedule, but

1111
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: you're I mean, yeah, there's not a ton of value

1112
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 3: on the number. But Boston College is definitely an intriguing

1113
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: team from a betting perspective. And again we'll have we'll

1114
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: go way and deep on all these teams on the

1115
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: ACC episode. All right, before we get out of here,

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00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: Colin caught up a Storretmandel earlier. Let's play that now, all.

1117
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 4: Right, everybody, we welcome in editor in chief of College

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00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 4: Football of the Athletics Stewart Mandel, longtime writer co host

1119
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 4: of the audible podcast Stu. How much fun has it

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00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: been over the past thirty six hours with the news

1121
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: of Texas and OU aiming to not renew their rights

1122
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: with a Big twelve and SEC having interest in taking

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00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: them on.

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00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 5: It's an absolute gift from the college football content gods.

1125
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 5: I can tell you having done this for so many years, now,

1126
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 5: there is no topic that people are more obsessed about

1127
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 5: or crazy about than realignment, to the point where we

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00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 5: did a whole series on realignment in the summer of

1129
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. It's the most popular thing we've ever done

1130
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 5: and there wasn't even any realignment happening. So to have

1131
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 5: it back in the news and to involve again going

1132
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: down that Texas Oklahoma twenty ten all over again road

1133
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 5: is just remarkable.

1134
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was some previous discussion of Texas and Oklahoma

1135
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: going to the PAC twelve. I believe that they were

1136
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 4: going to, you know, think about bringing two other teams

1137
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: from the Big twelve along. But hypothetically, if Texas and

1138
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: Oklahoma make this move and Oklahoma State making a strong,

1139
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 4: you know statement that you know, we're going to do

1140
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: everything in our right to keep our our series with

1141
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 4: Oklahoma going, what happens to the Big twelve, which is

1142
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: essentially the new Big Eight because it's down to eight teams.

1143
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: Does the AAC get bigger?

1144
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 4: Does Nebraska start thinking about bolting from the Big ten

1145
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: once again?

1146
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I would say that I still

1147
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 5: remain very skeptical that that it would be that this

1148
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 5: would play out in such a smooth fashion that we

1149
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 5: would go from a report that Texas and Oklahoma are

1150
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 5: looking to join the SEC to Texas and Oklahoma joining

1151
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 5: the SEC. You know, so many things could happen between

1152
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 5: now and then now that the news is out. But yes,

1153
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, the dilemma of the Big Twelve, ever

1154
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 5: since it got down to ten teams was always that.

1155
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 5: You know, I think the schools loved having a bigger

1156
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 5: slice of the pie and only dividing it ten ways,

1157
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 5: but they were always in danger of this scenario that

1158
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 5: Oklahoma and Texas are propping the entire conference up and

1159
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 5: without them they basically become a group of five conference.

1160
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 5: And that may seem harsh to say about some pretty

1161
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 5: good football programs, right Oklahoma State is a good football program, TCU,

1162
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 5: Iowa State, what they're building right now, The re alignment's

1163
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 5: not about on field performance, It's about TV dollars, and

1164
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 5: those schools just are not that valuable to a ESPN

1165
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: or a Fox without those blue bloods being part of

1166
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: the package. So, you know, the shorty answers would be

1167
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 5: every man to himself, and would those eight stick together

1168
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 5: and try to bring other.

1169
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: Schools into the fold.

1170
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 5: Would the AAC try to say, hey, don't don't wait

1171
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: around for that come to us.

1172
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

1173
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 5: Would the PAC twelve have some interest in a couple

1174
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 5: of those schools, But you know, at the end of

1175
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 5: the day, that would not remain a quote unquote Power

1176
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: five conference to me if it was those eight schools

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Speaker 5: and nou in Texas.

1178
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the AAC, as long they wanted to know,

1179
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 4: is a Power six conference. And legitimately, I think they

1180
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: have a team this year in Cincinnati that could contend

1181
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: for the College Ball playoff, can go undefeated. I'll go

1182
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: ahead and get to that question right now. If Cincinnati

1183
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 4: goes through this schedule Wednesday, AAC undefeated convincingly beats Notre Dame,

1184
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: are they in the College Football Playoff?

1185
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 5: I think it's hard to say for sure without knowing

1186
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 5: who would the other contenders be. Is it a year

1187
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 5: where every Power five conference has a twelve and one champ?

1188
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 5: If so, that might be a harder thing. You know,

1189
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 5: you would if your Cincinnati would root for there to

1190
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 5: be some two loss champs in there. But the other

1191
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 5: thing I would say is it's just it's the double standard,

1192
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 5: but it is what it is. You get more respect

1193
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 5: after you've done it once. The next year, I mean,

1194
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 5: UCF still didn't make the playoff, but they got more

1195
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 5: respect in the rankings the next year. And of course

1196
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 5: the key is UCF did not have a Notre Dame

1197
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 5: on its schedule in either of those seasons.

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Speaker 7: So in Cincinnati, by the way, has two.

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Speaker 5: I have Notre Dame in Indiana who had both top

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Speaker 5: ten teams last season. I don't know that they'll both

1201
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 5: be top ten teams this season, but let's say one

1202
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 5: is and let's say the other one is eight and four.

1203
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: You know, that's that's and we expect the AAC to

1204
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 5: have a couple of ranked teams. That's a pretty good resiment.

1205
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the College Football Playoff Committee, I know that

1206
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 4: we've switched names in and out of there. It seems

1207
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 4: like they've set a precedence where they took a one

1208
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: loss Alabama as an at large who went on to

1209
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: win the national title over a two loss Ohio State

1210
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: team and you know, just kind of shut out the

1211
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: group of five. So I think you're right that it

1212
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 4: depends on how many two loss conference winners do we

1213
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 4: have in.

1214
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Speaker 2: This current format that Cincinnati has to go up against.

1215
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: But definitely.

1216
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 4: Notre Dame is a brand name that UCF never had

1217
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 4: that could potentially get them there, Saban mentioned interesting. One

1218
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 4: note from Media Days was that Saban mentioned that Bryce

1219
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: Young is approaching one million dollars in NIL deals. Yeah,

1220
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just crazy to me. But is there

1221
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 4: a team that can benefit the most. I mean, I

1222
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: know a lot of us are searching for how is

1223
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: this going to affect recruiting? Are you going to go

1224
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 4: start gravitating towards teams that aren't Alabama because of this?

1225
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting that he put that out

1226
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 5: there because it doesn't line up with anything we've heard.

1227
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 5: You know, I've talked to many people in the NIL space,

1228
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 5: and the notion is like, there will be there may

1229
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 5: be some athletes who make that kind of money, but

1230
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: it's going to be very very few. They're going to

1231
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 5: be the absolute most marketable athletes. And given that Bryce

1232
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 5: Young hasn't really start hasn't even started a game yet,

1233
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 5: like that doesn't quite line up. Could he get there

1234
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 5: if he has the kind of season we think he will,

1235
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 5: absolutely so. I'm not sure what he was referring to exactly,

1236
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 5: but if let's just say that's Let's take Mana's word, right,

1237
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 5: Let's say he's got eight hundred thousand dollars in NIL

1238
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 5: deals that will play out over the course of the season. Well,

1239
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: that would tell me that being the quarterback of Alabama,

1240
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 5: no matter who you are, is going to be a

1241
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: very profitable thing.

1242
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 7: And there's no question that you know.

1243
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 5: I do think the cool thing about NIL is that

1244
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 5: literally anybody can get in on it. Right, The entire

1245
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 5: Arkansas offensive line has a has an endorsement deal with

1246
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 5: a barbecue place. But being the quarterback of Oklahoma Spencer

1247
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 5: Ratler has so many different deals now or Alabama, Eric

1248
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 5: King and Miami. Yeah, I mean there are certain guys

1249
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 5: that will benefit more than others, but that's America, right, Like,

1250
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 5: I don't buy the the notion some hold this will

1251
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 5: lead to like locker room fractures because some guys will

1252
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 5: be treated differently than guys are realistic. They know the

1253
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 5: second string offensive lineman knows that he doesn't have as

1254
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 5: much brand recognition as Sam Howell, Right, I mean, it's

1255
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 5: just when Kyler Murray was playing for the for Ou

1256
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 5: the year he won the Heisman, he had four million

1257
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 5: dollars from the A's right, he seemed to get along

1258
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 5: fine with his teammates, so I think that's a very

1259
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 5: outdated nineteen fifties notion.

1260
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, destined for Las Vegas Triple A until the Oakland

1261
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 4: was going to call him up.

1262
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray shunned the four million dollars.

1263
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 4: It's interesting to see where this is going because I

1264
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 4: see players like McKenzie, Milton and Deerrick King like partnering

1265
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: up in nil like deal together.

1266
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: So it's still I.

1267
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: Can't make heads or tails out of if any team

1268
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: is going to benefit from this. All I know is

1269
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: is every time I live in Oklahoma, so every time

1270
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 4: I walk into Abillityson's barbecue, I'm expecting to see Spencer

1271
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: Ratler signing autographs for a dollar amount. And every time

1272
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm over in Arkansas there's some swee TV and sold

1273
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 4: by some of our wide receivers, so it's spread out all.

1274
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: Over the place.

1275
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 4: Has there been anything from the Power five media days

1276
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: held so far that has caught your attention? I wasn't

1277
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: going to ask about Michael Pennix and it's help. We

1278
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 4: don't really know he takes the podium on Friday, But

1279
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: is there really any topic from the Power five media days.

1280
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: It's culture attention.

1281
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 5: So far, it's been hard to avoid the vaccination question there.

1282
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 5: Every coach is getting asked about it, and understandably so,

1283
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I know it becomes a very can become

1284
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 5: a very political issue for people. But in terms of

1285
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 5: just the college football implications, you know, the NFL came

1286
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 5: out and announced it that if your team can't field

1287
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 5: a team because of COVID, that game is a forfeit.

1288
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 7: Greg, thank you strongly.

1289
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 5: The SEC commition are strongly indicated that's what they're going

1290
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 5: to the approach they're going to take. I think all

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Speaker 5: of the conferences will eventually take that. And so now

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Speaker 5: choice of whether to get vaccine or not has a

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Speaker 5: ramification and beyond just.

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Speaker 7: The health part of it, the football part of it.

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Speaker 5: You would think we would be past the days of

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Speaker 5: last season I'm having to worry about games getting canceled

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Speaker 5: at the last second, But we're not. And the teams

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Speaker 5: that or the coach can come out and tell you

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Speaker 5: on the day of preseason camp that they're at ninety

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Speaker 5: percent vaccination, I'm gonna have a lot more faith in

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Speaker 5: those teams to have a successful season than the ones

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Speaker 5: that say, yeah, we got a long ways to go,

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Speaker 5: or you know, Brian Harson just completely dodged the question.

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Speaker 7: At SEC Media Days.

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Speaker 5: Nick Rolovich, the Washingtontate coach, came out and said he's

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Speaker 5: not vaccating, so he can't go to backt about media days.

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Speaker 5: And it has been it's been really eye opening to

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Speaker 5: see just the wide spectrum of responses. You know, there

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00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 5: are some coaches who are coming out and very strongly

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Speaker 5: saying like, we got to get these guys need to

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Speaker 5: get done, you know, we need to make this happen.

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Speaker 5: And then you've got guys who like this is You

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Speaker 5: can tell they're completely uncomfortable with the subject.

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Speaker 7: Maybe they personally don't believe in it. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: All I know is that there will be games affected

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Speaker 5: by this. There will be teams that have outbreaks if

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Speaker 5: not enough guys are vaccinated, and that's going to have

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Speaker 5: a direct effect this year, like last year, on win

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Speaker 5: loss records.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think there's two points to make here, Aluly,

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Speaker 4: I mean again, in my backyard, the Delta variant is

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Speaker 4: ripping through Arkansas right now, and we're a matter weeks

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Speaker 4: away from Arkansas hosting Texas, and you know, one of

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Speaker 4: the big games from week two and that could result

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Speaker 4: in a forfeit. So if you're somebody that makes investments

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Speaker 4: on some of these teams, I would get a little

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Speaker 4: nervous about taking an overticket when the book rules state

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Speaker 4: that the team they have a forfeit, it's a loss,

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 4: right the game's not even played and the bookmaker is

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Speaker 4: going to hold you accountable for that. So I would

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Speaker 4: be a little nervous about taking overs on teams in general.

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Speaker 4: Maybe go lighter on how much I would spend because

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Speaker 4: this is still a part of our lives, especially just

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Speaker 4: from reading the local news in Arkansas, we're about a

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Speaker 4: week or two away from hospitals being overrun again. So

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Speaker 4: we'll see where we are as camp you know, fires

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00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 4: up with Pittman. But yeah, this is the thing in

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Speaker 4: Louisiana and in Mississippi. So that's all SEC territory and

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00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 4: forfeits now or the new rule. Instead of moving things

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Speaker 4: or waiting for girls friends at Temple East Carolina to

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Speaker 4: have a COVID test to see if we're actually going

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Speaker 4: to play.

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Speaker 5: I mean I would look at you know, see what

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Speaker 5: the coach said at media days, and you can pretty

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Speaker 5: much tell I mean no, Alabama and Georgia, two programs

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Speaker 5: that had almost no issues last year, and obviously we're

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Speaker 5: very good. Their coaches are two of the coaches who

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00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 5: came out and plat outside like, we're already at that

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Speaker 5: eighty eighty five percent and it's really important and here's why.

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Speaker 5: And so I suddenly not that I didn't have faith

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Speaker 5: in those two particular teams already, but they're set up

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Speaker 5: for success. Washington State, whose coach won't get it, is

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Speaker 5: not set up for success.

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Speaker 7: They had a huge outbreak last season. It win surprised

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Speaker 7: me if it happens again.

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Speaker 4: So I think what Stu is telling us as gamblers,

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00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: that we shouldn't just be paying attention to success, right

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Speaker 4: and explosiveness.

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Speaker 2: We might need vaccination percent with our returning.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that they're going to publicize it, but absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Right, if we hear a team is above eighty percent,

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Speaker 4: then maybe we feel better about taking an.

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Speaker 2: Over on that team. And then we go back to

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Speaker 2: the college football playoff.

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Speaker 4: What happens if Cincinnati goes undefeated and then you've got

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Speaker 4: a team that didn't complete their schedule and maybe they

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Speaker 4: have two forfeits.

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Speaker 2: Right, so we're right back here. I feel like we're

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Speaker 2: right back in the same boat.

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Speaker 4: So with that being said, maybe the impossible question to

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Speaker 4: end on is what is your prediction. Let's say, in

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Speaker 4: a perfect world we don't have any forfeits or cancelations,

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Speaker 4: what's your prediction for the four teams in the college

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Speaker 4: football playoff?

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Speaker 5: You know, it helps that there's like a list of

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01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 5: six that I even think is possible. Right, that's just

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01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 5: the reality of the support Right now, I could think

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01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 5: this could be a year we're both Alabama and Georgia

1379
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 5: are there?

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Speaker 7: Clemson for sure, and.

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Speaker 5: Then I like owe you coming out of the Big twelve.

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Speaker 5: Although I don't discount Iowa State by any means.

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01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely some Iowa State definitely has some good numbers

1384
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 4: to win the national championship. There are some numbers out

1385
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 4: there to make the collegeable playoffs that are definitely worthy.

1386
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 4: But we got to get Iowa State through Iowa first,

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01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 4: so we'll see if that if we can get them

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01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 4: to get a win against the Hawkeyes there in state. Stuart,

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Speaker 4: thank you for joining me and look forward to talking

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Speaker 4: to you soon.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me all right.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Stuart Mandel for taking time out of his

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Speaker 3: day to join us.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff there.

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Speaker 3: Thanks as always Tolin for joining me, great stuff all around.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. We'll be back next week and then we're

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Speaker 3: just gonna keep them rolling through Week zero with all

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