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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily here, you're listening to another episode of Hurdle,

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Speaker 2: conquer your own hurdles. This week, I'm sitting down with

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting down with Sema Simmons. She is the GM

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Thank you for having me, Emily. I am

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Speaker 1: so excited to be here with you. We are in

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Speaker 3: we're looking for people that put in certain mileage each

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Speaker 3: week and that are good at giving the feedback too.

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Speaker 3: It's not just about wearing the product.

443
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Speaker 1: You don't just get to tests as issues and not

444
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Speaker 1: only to do the work. It's not just about getting

445
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Speaker 1: the fresh new product. It's also about how can you

446
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Speaker 1: give meaningful feedback to make that product better? Because that

447
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Speaker 1: is the whole point. We want people to wear the

448
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Speaker 1: product and then give us the insights to make it better.

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Speaker 2: Meaningful feedback something that I'm sure you got as you

450
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Speaker 2: evolved through the different roles to get to where you

451
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Speaker 2: are now. Do you recall some of what maybe in

452
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Speaker 2: the moment, felt like to be some very difficult feedback

453
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Speaker 2: that then empowered you to be better and continue to

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Speaker 2: grow on your journey throughout Nike.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. I think, like I said,

456
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Speaker 1: my personality is quiet, and some of the feedback that

457
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Speaker 1: I would get initially in my career is you're too

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Speaker 1: quiet and you have a different leadership style than we

459
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Speaker 1: have at Nike. And you know, that really made me

460
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Speaker 1: pause and think about how am make in advance in

461
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Speaker 1: my career if I'm viewed a certain way that is

462
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Speaker 1: not the norm of the way maybe leaders show up

463
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Speaker 1: at the workplace. And I had to find a balance

464
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Speaker 1: of being authentic to myself and keeping my personality, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: coming through, but then also making sure that I elevate

466
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Speaker 1: my voice in those spaces and let people know that

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Speaker 1: I have a point of view and a direction that

468
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Speaker 1: I want to drive. So I had tried early on,

469
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Speaker 1: like how do I be more outgoing and extrovert. It

470
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Speaker 1: doesn't feel natural, it doesn't feel authentic, And I honestly

471
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Speaker 1: feel like if you want to lead a team and

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Speaker 1: have people connect with you, you do have to be

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Speaker 1: authentic to yourself. I'm a quiet person, but in the

474
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Speaker 1: forums where I need to lead a team or explain

475
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Speaker 1: something to senior leadership, I need to make sure that

476
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Speaker 1: my voice is cutting through. So I think it's about

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Speaker 1: combining your authentic self with understand standing how you need

478
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Speaker 1: to show up in those environments and make sure that

479
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Speaker 1: the work gets done and that you stand up for

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Speaker 1: yourself in that you can be soft but firm, kind

481
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Speaker 1: but firm, and that as I get older, is I

482
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Speaker 1: agree with you something that is so much quote unquote

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Speaker 1: louder and special than screaming into the void just because

484
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Speaker 1: you feel like you're supposed to be screaming.

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Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, don't think.

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Speaker 1: I never feel like I have to be the one

487
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Speaker 1: that does the most talking in a meeting. What I

488
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Speaker 1: want people to remember is, wow, she made an amazing point.

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Speaker 1: I want the words that I share to have that

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Speaker 1: impact versus she talked the whole time. And also that

491
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Speaker 1: you listened. I think that's also a really important quality

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Speaker 1: of a leader, is that you listen, because that's how

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Speaker 1: you learn what the team needs or what the consumer needs.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like, if you're spending your time talking

495
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Speaker 1: the whole time, some things that are really important to

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Speaker 1: listen to.

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Speaker 2: This is really inspirational for me thinking about you as

498
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Speaker 2: you've evolved within your time at Nike. This is simultaneously

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Speaker 2: happening as you are building a family, right and both

500
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Speaker 2: of those things certainly have their own challenges. You spoke

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Speaker 2: before about that process taking perhaps longer than you had anticipated.

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Speaker 2: How did you navigate the emotional side of that while

503
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Speaker 2: trying to level up also within your career, because it's

504
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Speaker 2: lots of balance.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot to balance. Honestly, I think I kept

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Speaker 1: a lot of it in, yeah, and very private. That

507
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: was hard because there's so much going on in my

508
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Speaker 1: personal life, and then you try to show up at

509
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Speaker 1: work and do your best, your supportive to your team

510
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Speaker 1: and giving energy to your team. It was hard for

511
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Speaker 1: me to go through all of that. What I learned

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Speaker 1: from that is knowing you don't know what's going on

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Speaker 1: in someone's life, so as a leader, to be empathetic,

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Speaker 1: to be in tune to check in. Because I don't

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Speaker 1: think that I had that in my journey. Necessarily it

516
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Speaker 1: was on me. I was keeping it quiet and so private,

517
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Speaker 1: and so I think about that today as I'm leading

518
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Speaker 1: teams of how do I just make sure that I'm

519
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Speaker 1: there for my team, create an environment where people can share.

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Speaker 1: I have learned the importance of sharing those things and

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Speaker 1: being more vulnerable because I think if you show that

522
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Speaker 1: human side of yourself, people can connect to you as well.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done that earlier on in my career

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Speaker 1: of like, hey, these things are things that I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to work on or trying to achieve, because I was

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Speaker 1: almost like trying to be a perfect you know, and

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Speaker 1: show up in a certain way. I think I've shifted

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Speaker 1: that of like now I'm very open with like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is something that I'm trying that I'm not really

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Speaker 1: good at.

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Speaker 3: Running is a great example. When I was running.

532
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Speaker 1: I'm not the fastest runner, but I'm out there and

533
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Speaker 1: I'm trying and I'm having fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And that goes back to again this model behavior, like

536
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Speaker 2: you showing up and being this vulnerable leader gives others

537
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: permission then to say, Okay, I also don't have it

538
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Speaker 2: all together. How often are we pretending that we have

539
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: it all together? I know, yes, I don't know why

540
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: we feel the pressure to do to do that. The

541
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Speaker 2: other thing too, that you know that journey taught me

542
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Speaker 2: is when I did have my girls, it made me

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Speaker 2: appreciate being a mom so much more for all that

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Speaker 2: I did, and then also appreciated my mom.

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Speaker 1: So much more but it helped me with the balance.

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Speaker 1: To your point in question of you know, how do

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Speaker 1: you balance that busy schedule. I am very driven at work,

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Speaker 1: I also love being a mom. At the end of

549
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Speaker 1: the day, my priority is to be a mom, so

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Speaker 1: I will get my meetings and my work done, but

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Speaker 1: I'm there for the soccer game or their track meet,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I also find that that is important

553
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Speaker 1: to make sure that you showcase that to your teams,

554
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Speaker 1: so other people with other priorities, whether it's kids or

555
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Speaker 1: whatever is going on in their life, they know that

556
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Speaker 1: there is balance and that's important.

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Speaker 3: You had to have missed something that made you understand that.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw other women around me sacrificing the

559
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Speaker 1: time with family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was like really loud for you to

561
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Speaker 3: see loud for me.

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Speaker 1: And before I had the girls, I had a loss

563
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Speaker 1: that made me realize like, if I'm going and if

564
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Speaker 1: I'm working this hard to be a mom, there's nothing

565
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Speaker 1: that's going to come that's more important than this for me. Yeah,

566
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Speaker 1: I think it was my journey of getting to that

567
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Speaker 1: point that made me realize, like, there's nothing that's going

568
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Speaker 1: to be more important than showing up for my kids.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing this daily journaling challenge for the community

570
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: of listeners throughout December, reflecting on the year. And the

571
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: prompt that was for day four was just articulate two

572
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Speaker 2: hurdles that you've overcome this year. And what I find

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Speaker 2: to be so interesting is that often when we are

574
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Speaker 2: going through these difficult moments, we may not even give

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Speaker 2: ourselves enough credit for the tenacity and the diligence that

576
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Speaker 2: it requires to come out on the other side and

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Speaker 2: keep going. And you're speaking of quite a difficult, large

578
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Speaker 2: hurdle perhaps, but there are small things that were overcoming

579
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Speaker 2: each and every day that we don't give ourselves credit for.

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Speaker 3: And so when you go through a moment like that

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Speaker 3: where you do.

582
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Speaker 2: Learn I am resilient, you are reminded that you can

583
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Speaker 2: push through difficult moments. It then empowers and enables you

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Speaker 2: to show up for the smaller ones along the way,

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Speaker 2: as you were then stepping into your power as a

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Speaker 2: mom while building and pivoting continuously at Nike. How does

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Speaker 2: one show up for herself Because I know there's not

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Speaker 2: a lot of time for that.

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Speaker 1: It feels that though as though there's not a lot

590
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Speaker 1: of time for that, there isn't. Yeah, that's such a

591
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: great point, Emily. I think that's the one thing that

592
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Speaker 1: I think I sacrificed early on, is you just put

593
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Speaker 1: so much right, put so much into your family, so

594
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: much into your career, and then you kind of almost

595
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: burn out and you realize, I need to actually give

596
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: myself some time too. And then that's where I would

597
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Speaker 1: make sure that I made time to work out or

598
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Speaker 1: do something that was my time for myself. That was

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Speaker 1: my favorite time for myself. Go for a walk with

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Speaker 1: the dog, go to the gym, get a fitness class in,

601
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Speaker 1: you know, go for a quick run, and then needed

602
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Speaker 1: let me time. It was minimal, but you need to

603
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Speaker 1: make that time because remember someone telling me, like, if

604
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Speaker 1: you don't take care of yourself, how are you going

605
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Speaker 1: to take care of others?

606
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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: And I always want to take care of others. I

608
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Speaker 1: think that was the example that my mom set. I

609
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Speaker 1: love that she's there for everyone, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: what I modeled and I saw that in her and

611
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Speaker 1: I wanted to be that. But there's only so much

612
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Speaker 1: you can do for everyone else. If you're burnt out

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Speaker 1: and you can't take care of yourself, Yeah, how have

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Speaker 1: you helped your girls understand that. I don't think I've

615
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: ever actually said anything to them, but what I think it's,

616
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, show leading by example, right, showing them that

617
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: they see the work that I put in for my career.

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00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: They also see that mom shows up for me at

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Speaker 1: a school event or anything that they need. So when

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Speaker 1: they moved to college, which was also just another big

621
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: shift this year that we went through, they they had

622
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: written me a card as they were moving and what

623
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: they told me, which meant so much to me because

624
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: you just don't talk about it every day and you

625
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: don't assume that your kids see you in this light.

626
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: But they're like, Mom, you're a badass at work, but

627
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: we appreciate like how much you showed up for me

628
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: every day, and you know, you don't get thank yous

629
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: from teenagers at all. Yeah, So that meant the world

630
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: to me to just know that my girls actually recognize

631
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: that as they were growing up, and I think that

632
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: just kind of hopefully will be something that they take

633
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: away with them to how they Yeah, Yeah, it meant

634
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: It really did mean the world to me. And what

635
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: a full circle moment because you talked about the note

636
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: that your mom wrote you and she said, I see you.

637
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: I see that this is important to you. I will

638
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: support you no matter what you're doing. This is a

639
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: testament to the young woman that you raised. You're getting

640
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: a lot, You're getting a lot of great notes. I

641
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: hope that you're writing some notes. And do you write

642
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: some notes? I love you know.

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00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: And in an era where we text and do so

644
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: much digitally, my favorite is to get a card. I

645
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: still like, the only thing I want on my birthday

646
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: is a handwritten card.

647
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, handwritten notes.

648
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: And as I get older, I understand the value of

649
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: curating and creating and gifting experiences in time over anything

650
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: material like a new PEG premium respectfully, is very nice

651
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: thing to give. However, I would much rather like go

652
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: to a cooking class with my dad. Yeah, yeah, something

653
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, you don't get back the time. And

654
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure that that's a really big lesson that you've

655
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: learned as you have gone through raising your daughters, and

656
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: you do so much travel for your job.

657
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit.

658
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the job side of things and

659
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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about this era that you're in

660
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Speaker 2: now as the GM of running up North America. You said,

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Speaker 2: working cross functionally and with all these different people. But

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Speaker 2: from like a snapshot, if you have to talk about

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Speaker 2: a day, you're like, this is cute. I just think

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Speaker 2: that people still are trying to understand what it would

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Speaker 2: look like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what does a GM do? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know people ask me that all the time because

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Speaker 1: they'll have that on their career plan. I want to

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Speaker 1: be a GM ow what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know.

671
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: I think as they see, like, hey, that's the person

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Speaker 1: that leads the business.

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Speaker 3: I get to lead running.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is pretty cool at Nike, you know,

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Speaker 1: that was the heart of our brand, right and where

676
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Speaker 1: it's I feel proud every day to be able to

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Speaker 1: work on the sport that created our brand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But what that looks like every day? I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of meetings and I sit in a lot

681
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Speaker 1: of meetings. I do a lot of presentations, which is funny,

682
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Speaker 1: you know, to think about as someone that does not

683
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Speaker 1: like presenting and talking in front of people. I spend

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Speaker 1: a lot of my time and the presenting is like

685
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: sharing our plans, sharing the vision. My job is to

686
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Speaker 1: make sure the vision of where we are going in

687
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: Nike Running is clear, and so we're constantly sharing that

688
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: we're problem solving, you know, where there's things we're trying

689
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Speaker 1: to deliver a season and bring things to life, like

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Speaker 1: for example, we just got through marathon season, right, it's

691
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Speaker 1: my team that brings those experiences to life for the

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Speaker 1: consumers in the cities.

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Speaker 3: Can we get really granular? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's my team that brings us experiences to life.

695
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Speaker 2: So what's on a deck for an experience? Like, give

696
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Speaker 2: me an example of New York City Marathon?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you making a deck on New York City Marathon? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: My team makes a deck and you know it's around

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Speaker 1: Like how does the brand show up around the city.

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00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: So I'm sure anyone that has seen a major marathon

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Speaker 1: recently has seen those cheeky lines on the billboards. You

702
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: know that Nike brings to life. That's in a deck?

703
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: Was the boat? Was the ferry and the deck? Yeah?

704
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: So if you're listening to this and you're not familiar this,

705
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: they wrapped the Staten Island ferry in a Nike ad

706
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: and it was it was epic, But it's like who

707
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: comes up with the ferry? Like, I just my mind

708
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: is blown to think. Like someone one day was like,

709
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Speaker 2: you know what we should do. We should wrap the

710
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: Staaten Island ferry in an.

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Speaker 1: That's the fun part of the job, right, and how

712
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: that comes to life is thinking about the consumer journey

713
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Speaker 1: of like, oh, those runners have to be on the ferry, right,

714
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: and they're going to see that tagline, you know, like

715
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Speaker 1: making sure that we're in front of the runners and

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Speaker 1: meeting them where they're at. That is all like the

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Speaker 1: premise of the things that will show up in the

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Speaker 1: deck y, you know, whether it's you know, wrapping the

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Speaker 1: faery or the shakeout run that we're partnering with many

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Speaker 1: run clubs in the city to bring over fifteen hundred

721
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Speaker 1: people showed up for the shakeout run the day before

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Speaker 1: the race, So all of those experiences how we bring

723
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Speaker 1: energy along the race course. Those are really fun things

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Speaker 1: to work through.

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Speaker 2: And I'm also sensing this through line of I'm going

726
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: to think really big yes that I like get excited

727
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Speaker 2: about that because someone says to me, if you had

728
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Speaker 2: to think about like you're like, what's your dream thing

729
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: that you want to do in twenty twenty six or

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Speaker 2: what do you want to do at LA twenty eight, Right,

731
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Speaker 2: it's really empowering to think of being in a situation

732
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Speaker 2: where you feel comfortable enough to say, I'm going to

733
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Speaker 2: have the audacity to throw out what some might think

734
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Speaker 2: to be is a crazy idea, and I'm surrounded by

735
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Speaker 2: people that aren't going to be like, you're absolutely ludicrous.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think that that is the energy that

737
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Speaker 3: we feed off of.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, we want to do something that is bold, that's

739
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Speaker 1: distinct Nike only. I think our brand is known for

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Speaker 1: doing things that maybe others wouldn't even breaking for. Was

741
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Speaker 1: you know a great example of that breaking too, like

742
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: going after things that people might say that's impossible. Yeah,

743
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Speaker 1: you know, that's actually what gets us fired up. It's like,

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Speaker 1: well then let's go after it and make it possible.

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Speaker 3: I love that vibe.

746
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Speaker 2: And also, do you feel like you get flack And

747
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: I guess, like I'm not saying Sema, but I'm saying Nike.

748
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: It's very signature to Nike to be like, we're going

749
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: to do these crazy things. And I think that like

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Speaker 2: if you go on Instagram and you're scrolling through reels

751
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: like people are making fun, like there's a vibe, there's

752
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: a Nike vibe.

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm the biggest, the baddest in the room.

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Speaker 2: I'm here to make my presence known, and I believe

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Speaker 2: that that can be perceived in a couple of different ways.

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Speaker 2: It can be perceived as we have this ego, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: and it can just be HI, I'm here and I'm

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Speaker 2: standing in my power, and I'm going to be the

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Speaker 2: person that makes the loudest noise, something that's counterintuitive sometimes

760
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Speaker 2: to who you are as someone who doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: always be the loudest in the room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your brand wants to be the loudest in the room.

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Speaker 1: The brand wants to be the loudest in the room.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we're a big brand and we're aware

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Speaker 1: of the impact that we can make. I think that's

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Speaker 1: why we go after those audacious goals because we can

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Speaker 1: and we should. And it starts with the athlete. The

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Speaker 1: athletes are the ones that have those audacious goals. It

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Speaker 1: was Faith that wants to go after breaking the four

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Speaker 1: minute mile barrier, and we're there to help her as

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Speaker 1: a brand power that up. I also think, though, you

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Speaker 1: balance it with how you show up for consumers every day.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the shakeout run, that's the guidance that

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Speaker 1: we can provide through our training plans for the consumers

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Speaker 1: that have the goal of running their first marathon or

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Speaker 1: a faster time. So I think it's that balance of

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Speaker 1: things that we do at scale, which people might say like, Okay,

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00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: that's Nike doing their Nike thing. Yeah, and we will

779
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: always do that. It's also the intimate moments that we

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Speaker 1: think about to hopefully create more of those human connects

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Speaker 1: and make people feel a part of the community, not

782
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Speaker 1: necessarily like, hey, this is Nike doing something. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the future of running as Nike sees it.

784
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: This year, you as a brand really came forward and

785
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: invested in women with the after Dark series, making a

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Speaker 1: really big push to target her within the you know,

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Speaker 1: confines of whatever you're allowed to tell me.

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Speaker 3: Is that something that we will continue to see going forward.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you will see a continued focus on serving women

790
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: and running. It's something very close to my heart. It's

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Speaker 1: something that a lot of people are very passionate about

792
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Speaker 1: at Nike. And again it goes back to serving re

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Speaker 1: women are signing up for more races. She is out

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Speaker 1: there running with us, and we will continue to think

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Speaker 1: about ways to serve her across product and experiences. And

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I had some of the ideas there

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Speaker 1: we're cooking out.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel like I also know things that

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about right now, but I'm just reeling

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Speaker 2: it in respectfully, speaking of after Dark, how does brand

801
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: gauge success with something like that, Like, yes, selling out

802
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: is exciting, Yes the pr is exciting, But what's like

803
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Speaker 2: the success metric?

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Speaker 3: Like, did Nike see this as a massive success? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think we saw it as a massive success because

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Speaker 1: we heard from women that they wanted to come back

807
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Speaker 1: and race with us again. And I think that's what

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Speaker 1: we want. We want to get women to the starting

809
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Speaker 1: line and across the finish line and then come back

810
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Speaker 1: again and run with us. And just having that positive

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Speaker 1: sentiment that she enjoyed the experience and felt the power

812
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Speaker 1: of the collective meant more to us than you know

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Speaker 1: the number people that are there. But just let's bring

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Speaker 1: her back and have her run with us and bring

815
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Speaker 1: some friends next year, bring some friends. Yeah, what are

816
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: you thinking about for the next year?

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Speaker 3: Dude? So I did.

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Speaker 1: I ran all of the world major marathons and finished

819
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Speaker 1: them two years ago.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, loved it.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations you I do have Sydney on my vision board.

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Speaker 1: I think in twenty six I've never been to Australia,

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Speaker 1: I know, and it's a big trip.

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Speaker 3: Have you been to Australia?

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00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I have, Okay, Yeah, I went for a work event Setney.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm sure if you went for a work event,

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Speaker 2: you weren't there for as long as you wish that

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Speaker 2: you could be. So my thought process is that I'll

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Speaker 2: probably run the Sydney Marathon this year and I'm aiming

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Speaker 2: to be in that part of the world for give her.

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Speaker 3: Take around ten days. I feel like you have to

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Speaker 3: be there for that long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it would be great to experience

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Speaker 1: that and we'll be cheering you on.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you'll be cheering me on, I know. Speaking of

837
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Speaker 3: goal setting.

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Speaker 2: GM, of running for North America, what's on your vision

839
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: board moving forward for your career?

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00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: I actually feel like right now I'm in my dream job.

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00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: I love my job. I love you so passionate about running.

842
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: I've got a great team, and I like the GM

843
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: role because it is bringing people together and leveraging their expertise.

844
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be mad at going back to product someday.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think the GM space, our product

846
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: role are areas that I'm super passionate about, So I

847
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: am open to that. And honestly, since I never knew

848
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Speaker 1: like what was the next thing that was coming, I'm

849
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: open to what are other areas that I could learn

850
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: and grow?

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Speaker 3: But right now I am thankful for being in running.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so cool to hear that you've been so

853
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: open to learning this entire time.

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00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: You've been so open to feedback this entire time.

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Speaker 2: When someone hears from you, myself included, they're inspired, I'm

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00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: sure by your journey. If you had to offer advice

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Speaker 2: to someone that is aspiring to this level of leadership,

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Speaker 2: that is aspiring to getting to a place where maybe

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Speaker 2: they hold their dream job, what do.

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Speaker 3: You have to offer them?

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00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, be curious and then enjoy the journey.

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00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: So don't be about, hey, I want to be in

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Speaker 1: this role in ten years. Specifically, it's great to have

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Speaker 1: a vision, but it may not always go kind of

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Speaker 1: exactly as planned. I would have never mapped out my

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Speaker 1: career the way it was, and so I think it

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Speaker 1: was okay with just moving in different areas. Sometimes those

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: roles are not always like hey, each one is a promotion.

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00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you have to take those lateral moves

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Speaker 1: to learn something new and a new area that then

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00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: sets you up for the next big one. But I

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00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: think just take each step as a way to learn

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00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: something new, build that network, and have fun with it.

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00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: People ask me why I've been at Nike for twenty

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Speaker 1: five years. It is because I've had the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: do so many different things and work in so many areas,

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Speaker 1: and it's the people that keep me there.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was what I was going to ask you,

879
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: is that I it's interesting about the sneaker industry because

880
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: I do feel like you see this a lot. You

881
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: see folks that have been at brands, whether it be

882
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: ni He or a competitor, and they've been there for ten, fifteen,

883
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five years.

884
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you think of that as I think

885
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: there's so.

886
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: Much passion in that space, and you know, you build

887
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: a lot into a brand and you want to see

888
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: your vision come to life. So I think that keeps

889
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: people in a space where you're working towards those bigger

890
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: goals and it feels like, you know, you build a

891
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: family at work too. You're close to your teammates. It's

892
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: a competitive environment, but there's so much passion around what

893
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: everyone is doing, and then that builds such a fun

894
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: culture that I think keeps people there.

895
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: I obviously have a very different job, but I get

896
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: to see what it is that you do, and it's

897
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: so funny because there are so many aspects of our

898
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: job that are quite fun and outside of the box.

899
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: Like you're talking about traveling to run with your daughters, yeah,

900
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: and like that's kind of part of the job, right,

901
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: And for me, I'll have friends that are like.

902
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: How's kindergarten today?

903
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: And like, just because I'm not today sitting with an

904
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: Excel spreadsheet does not mean that there aren't moments when

905
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: I am like literally like where's the money coming from?

906
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on.

907
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 2: But to your point, I do think that a reason

908
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: that people stay around this climate for so long is

909
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: because there is a lot of joy and almost at

910
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: times opportunity to play. And that is something that can

911
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: be so lost in the working environment. Is like the

912
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: beauty of playing and the beauty of taking risks and

913
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: doing new things.

914
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives you that space to imagine. Yeah, I

915
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: mean that is fun, right, It's not. Every day is

916
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: almost different, you know, going back to your question around like,

917
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: what does a GM do?

918
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: I feel like every day is pretty differ.

919
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: You've got different problems to solve, different dreams to think about.

920
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: It's fun to have that creative space. And today your

921
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: first podcast, my first podcast, how did I do em?

922
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? Theesema, You've done so well before I let you go.

923
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Today, someone maybe for your role, I would say, maybe

924
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: someone comes to your LinkedIn and they see you as

925
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: this GM of running. But when you look in the mirror, Seema,

926
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: what is it that you see looking back at you?

927
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: I see someone that has put in the effort and

928
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: that has worked hard to make my mom proud, to

929
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: make my daughters proud. And so that's who I see

930
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: in the mirror, and that's what I keep in my

931
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: mind as I show up every day. Yeah, and what

932
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: an important reminder again when you said earlier you were like,

933
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: I realized very quickly that my number one priority was

934
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: being a mom. To look in the mirror and see

935
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: someone that makes yourself proud. Sell worth is how you

936
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: feel about yourself when you're by yourself, and you're never

937
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: going to get that from how you show up necessarily

938
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: in one specific meeting.

939
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: Right, it's that.

940
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Opportunity to look in the mirror and be like, no,

941
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm good with what I see. Yeah, it's so important.

942
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: It's so important. I think we have to remind ourselves

943
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: and that we're worthy, we're good. You know, we don't

944
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: have to keep proving ourselves. We have to appreciate who

945
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: we are and you know, we have goals, right, We're

946
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: not perfect, but I think to just appreciate the value

947
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: that each of us brings, it's really important, and to

948
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: make sure that we bring our voices to the tables

949
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: and whatever we're doing to drive that.

950
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Speaker 2: Right now, you have an opportunity to offer yourself a

951
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: piece of advice. Let's go back to when you made

952
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: that decision to say, I'm not going to be what

953
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: I thought that I was supposed to be. I'm not

954
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: going to be a doctor. I'm going to tell my

955
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: parents and that I'm kind of leaning in this other direction.

956
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: Knowing what you know, now, what would you tell your younger.

957
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: Self, my younger self to just continue to trust myself,

958
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: don't second guess it, don't question myself. You know, it's

959
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: hard because it's when you're younger, you want to fit in,

960
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: you want to be like everyone else. You also want

961
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: to meet the expectations that those around you have for you.

962
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: So I think if I would have known like it's

963
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: okay to think differently and to be myself and to

964
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: trust myself, that would have been helpful to hear as

965
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah, and what I'm also hearing you say

966
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: is like the importance of being honest with yourself about

967
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: the expectations you have for yourself, because those are going

968
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: to be what's most important along the way.

969
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, absolutely, Sima. I'm so happy that we did this.

970
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm so honored that you allowed me to be your

971
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: first podcast. I know you're not the most active on

972
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: social but if someone wants to keep up with you,

973
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: if someone wants to keep up with Nike, where do

974
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: they find you?

975
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Speaker 3: You can find me on LinkedIn. Yeah, and then also

976
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: on Instagram too. Okay, Yeah, amazing.

977
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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Another Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.