1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr Joy hard and Bradford, 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. While I hope 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: you love listening to and learning from the podcast, it 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: is not meant to be a substitute for relationship with 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much 11 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: for joining me for Session once twenty one of the 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: Therapy for Black Girl's podcast. For today's conversation, I'm joined 13 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: again by Dr Sheena Young, who was our guest on 14 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: session eighteen of the podcast regarding healing after a sexual assault. 15 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: Dr Young is back with us this week to talk 16 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: more about her passion for helping us to heal using 17 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: a holistic perspective. Doctor Young is a holistic and body 18 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: inclusive psychologist, trauma informed yoga teacher, and healer. She owns 19 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: a private practice, Embodied Truth Healing and Psychological Services in 20 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles area, holding space for women of color. 21 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: She is most powerful in listening to the body, co 22 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: healing intergenerational trauma and ancestral wounds, facilitating holistic healing experiences mind, body, 23 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: heart and spirit, and in the spirit of decolonizing healing. 24 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: She has cultivated a new space, Healing Color and online 25 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: directory of healers of color for the people. Dr Young 26 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: and I chatted about what it means to approach our 27 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: healing holistically, how this vantage point is a part of 28 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: our history, what it means to decolonize our healing, different 29 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: pathways to healing, and questions to ask when working with 30 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: someone in a healing practice. If you hear something that 31 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: resonates with you while listening, please be sure to share 32 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: it with us on social media using the hashtag tb 33 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: G in session. Here's our conversation. Thank you so much 34 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: for being back with us today, Dr Young, I appreciate you. 35 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. It's great to be back. Yeah. So you know, 36 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: I know that you have just started this new endeavor, 37 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Healing Color, and so it's you know, you're the platform 38 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: is all about a holistic approach to healing and looking 39 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: at all of the different ways that we can heal. 40 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: In addition to therapy to get me a little bit 41 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: about what it means to have a holistic approach to healing. Right, yes, 42 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: thank you so much for that question. So last time 43 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: we talked, we don't a little bit into holistic healing, 44 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: but we focused on the impact of sexual trauma and 45 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: shout out to session eighteen. Absolutely we will link that 46 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: in the show note so you guys can catch it 47 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: if you missed her first time one of the o 48 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: G sessions. And so we talked a lot about how 49 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: a sexual trauma affects mind, body, heart, and spirit, and 50 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: how we can be mindful in our healing that that 51 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: allows us to see to each of those parts of 52 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: our experience. And so when I talk about holistic healing, 53 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how powerful therapy is. But we aren't 54 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: just the minds or brains. Were not simple, compartmentalized beings. 55 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: Now we we might use the tool of sectioning off 56 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: our spror adances to make them more tolerable, but that's 57 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: a whole another conversation for another time. We're complex, were whole, 58 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: We're dynamic beings, and all of our aspects and parts 59 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: are interconnected. So that means that our healing can't just 60 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: be um merely a mental exercise. And so when we 61 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: consider our mind, body, heart, and spirit, our minds, the 62 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: ways we think about the world, our body, how lived 63 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: experience is manifest in the body. The heart pieces about 64 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: our relationship to self and others. Themes of trust and 65 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: abandonment can come up there. And then spirit is about 66 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: our connection to a higher power, creator, God's or its 67 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: higher self, whatever that might mean for a person. So 68 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: I invite healing that brings in all of this. For example, 69 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: we might be in therapy and also start to feel 70 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: like our creativity is blocked or a b we're having 71 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: some some spiritual things that go on, and so can 72 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: we be curious to think about other medicines that exist, 73 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: like plant and herbal medicine which can help treat the 74 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: root of a disease or an illness as either a 75 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: counter option or a complementary option to pharmaceuticals, which usually 76 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: focus on symptom reduction. We can explore how our diet 77 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: impacts our mood. There are research studies that say how 78 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: gluten and dairy, for example, and sugar. We all know 79 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: that one thing that we love, including myself, can impact 80 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: our mood, or how body work can support release the 81 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: built up tension in the muscles and even trauma. So 82 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I like to say, healing is in process. It is 83 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: a process. It's something to own. It's infinite, it's above 84 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: and beyond, it's mine and yours and ours. It's time, 85 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: and it's really important that we start to zoom out 86 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: and think about all of the ways that we can 87 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: heal in all of our aspects and complexities. I have 88 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: much more I can say about that, you know. I mean, 89 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure we will get into it, because I really 90 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: like this idea dr young of you know, in some ways, 91 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: it feels kind of like a going back to our 92 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: roots kind of thing, right, I mean, because as much 93 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: as therapy looks like what it looks like today, we 94 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: have been doing this kind of healing work before there 95 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: was a name for therapy, right, And so you know, 96 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: what I'm excited about it in terms of the work 97 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: that you're doing is that it does kind of feel 98 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: like a going back to kind of where we started 99 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: and things that have been successful and helpful in healing 100 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: for us for years and years before we even maybe 101 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: had language for it, decades and decades. Listen, you you 102 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: just summed it up. You know, I I appreciate that. 103 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: What's real is that many of us have just being 104 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: a person in this world and in this society, we've 105 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: adapted westernized beliefs and values that have guided and shaped 106 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: our lives, and our healing is no exception to that. 107 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: So I use the word adapted loosely. I'd say, the 108 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: real of it is that we've been conditioned. And even 109 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: that's not the most honest word. We've been colonized. You know, 110 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: our minds, our bodies are healing through enslavement and its 111 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: contemporary descendants, I would say, and the manifestation of that, 112 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: and so that process, many of us have done what 113 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: we had to do to survive, which is to forget. 114 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: It is to have forgotten some of the things that 115 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: we knew in in our lineage and through our ancestors 116 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: and our and our cultures and our heritage. Colonization is 117 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: wasn't intrusive. Was is an intrusive and abrasive and abusive process, 118 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: and that continues how to impact how we move in 119 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: the world, how we understand it. And as I was saying, 120 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: sometimes it means that we we shrink in our power. 121 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: And sometimes I think the survival aspects or that we 122 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: we become complacent or small to survive the oppression where 123 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: we're disempowered, and many of us are trying to find 124 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: our way back to our personal truth. And so I 125 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: think part of that means remembering and kind of examining 126 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: those fears around why what barriers there are to returning 127 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: remembering and exploring things that maybe we've been told are 128 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: evil or bad so that we can return to using 129 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: our intuition and our healing as opposed to trusting external 130 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: sources more than ourselves and our journeys. So I love 131 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: the sound of all of this, and I think what 132 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: what I begin to think as you were talking, was 133 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: how do you create a space for this while you 134 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: still live in this world old? Right? You know? So 135 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: I means so the colonization and all the stuff that 136 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: you talked about is very real, but I mean this 137 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: is kind of where we are. So I think I'm wondering, 138 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: like about the balance of that are, Like, how do 139 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: you move more into that and embracing more you know, 140 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: intuition and kind of you know, ancestral kinds of things, 141 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: but also exists in this space you know that we're 142 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: currently in. Yeah, it is a tight rope walk. I've 143 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: been really excited seeing, you know, the sort of resurgence 144 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: of people practicing and exploring some of our African traditions 145 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: through medicine, through movement and dance and drum, and access 146 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: to sacred indigenous plants and herbs, and even through farming. 147 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: And so it's out there. There are spaces that are 148 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: being held. And that's one of the reasons why I 149 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: created Healing Color is to make this more accessible, to 150 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: make the exploration and being in community and with community 151 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: more accessible. So, you know, one of the things I 152 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: was thinking about, just in an anticipation of our talk, 153 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: like what are some of the daily practices we could 154 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: have in this journey of decolonizing our healing Giving that 155 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: we still have to exist within the symptoms, but what 156 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: are the small ways that we can begin to explore 157 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: and on one of the big ones is and this 158 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: this might ruffle some feathers, but I am a person 159 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: who really believes in this and and in standing in 160 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: my truth. I tell people, you know, question everything, are 161 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: the values you practice also tools that have been used 162 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: to oppress you and your community, our community. It's urgent 163 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: and a prerequisite for decolonizing our healing as communities of color, 164 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: and so many of us are doing this work, and 165 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: some of us are afraid to ask questions because we're 166 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: afraid the answers will challenge everything we've come to believe 167 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: have been taught. And it might, but there's no shame 168 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: in that the practice of fear is oppression working, and 169 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: so we really work on that, asking ourselves where did 170 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: it come from? The belief, the value, the way, the energy, 171 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: the judgment. Where did I learn this? Where did the 172 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: fear comes in mind? Is it someone else's? Is it? 173 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: What is it protecting me from? What is it keeping me? 174 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: How is it keeping me from expanding? And then the 175 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: intuition piece is one of my favorite things to talk about. 176 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: I feel like one of the biggest ruptures that can 177 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: happen in you know, as in our lived experiences, is 178 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: too between the person and their intuition, particularly women. So 179 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: I say to people, search for where it lives in 180 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: your body and place your hands there. Often ask it 181 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: to guide you and repair your relationship with intuition, like 182 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: your life depends on it, because it does. And then 183 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: another you know, really big pieces about reclaiming the body 184 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: and also our relationship with our ancestors. So what I 185 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: see in my work is that people are really curious 186 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: about these things, but they come to me and like 187 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: you're saying, Dr Joy, where do I find out I'm 188 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: curious about African spiritual tradition or I really I am 189 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: curious about energy healing, and I don't know where to 190 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: find someone that looks like me, or I don't know 191 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: the spaces, and so we do our best to locate 192 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: these resources. Social media helps out a lot, but you 193 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: know it is it's hard that this is the gap, 194 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: This is the gap in the In the therapy space, 195 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: for example, what I might see is, you know, women 196 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: working on mother wounds. We know that story and identifying 197 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: unhealthy relationship patterns that have been passed down through generations 198 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: and intergenerational trauma, for example, caring for others at self expense. 199 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: We might see this manifest in the body. So we 200 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: work with a nervous system and the intuition in session. 201 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: But also it might mean that I'm referring them or 202 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: connecting them with their curiosity and of course with their 203 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: consent to other resources and spaces that are going to 204 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: support that work of of healing some of the mother wounds. 205 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: I think about grief a lot in this in this space, 206 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: and so I'm happy to share some examples two of 207 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: the ways on which this is integrated as a therapist, 208 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: and how I'm bringing in some of these traditions within 209 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: the therapy space while also facilitating connection to other spaces 210 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: that support the work that's happening in therapy. If that's helpful, Yeah, 211 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: I would love to hear examples. Okay, great, So grief, Um, 212 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: this is a big one. I feel like I'm often 213 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: holding space for people moving through loss and also longing. 214 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: The longing pieces interesting because, as we talked about the 215 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: impact of colonization and religious rhetoric has many of us 216 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: being fearful of continuing or building relationship with our ancestors. 217 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: For example, I hear things like let the dead rest, 218 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: or you know, communing or worshiping ancestors its evil or 219 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's bad. And so I asked things like, 220 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: have you ever had a dream of a loved one 221 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: that has transitioned and you wake up surprised that you 222 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: were asleep because it felt so real. It felt like 223 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: you and this person were together again, and they looked good, 224 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: and they looked healthy, and you really thought you were there, 225 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: and so many of us are afraid of this or 226 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: afraid to engage, afraid to talk about it. But that's 227 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: that's part of who we are. You know, we're the 228 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: we're the original healers, and we have some of these 229 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: really special these special things and gifts that have supported 230 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: us and connected us and are very much a part 231 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: of our resilience as a community. So again, you know, 232 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: this is a direct result of being separated from our 233 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: spiritual armor or weapons and our relationship with our ancestors. 234 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: So in my practice, I follow the lead of my clients. 235 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm listening closely. I'm inviting curiosity as to what it 236 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: would mean to be in relationship with loved ones who 237 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: are transitioned as sources of support, protection, wisdom, and more deeply, 238 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: to continue healing that they weren't able the ancestor wasn't 239 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: able to get when they were in this realm, because 240 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: we know intergenerational trauma is is real. And I think 241 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: you know what I noticed the most lately is that 242 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: people are interested in um like, really practical ways to 243 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: start to foster and nurture this relationship. So we might 244 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: begin by talking about creating an altar or a sacred 245 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: space and their home for their ancestors. And that can 246 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: be a huge and big step for for someone who 247 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: who is feeling conflicted or has been brought up to 248 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: believe that this isn't okay m m. Yeah. And you 249 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: mentioned the whole idea of a dream and this is 250 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: something that I think I've seen come up quite often 251 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: in conversations with our community, just um, this vivid dreaming 252 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: and you know, and people feeling really uncomfortable with dreams 253 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: and you know, and like the premonitions in some of them, um, 254 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: and like what do you do with that information? And 255 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm wondering if you can kind of 256 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: speak to that about like how you can become less 257 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: afraid of these things that I think are very kind 258 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: of they're they're in tune right, like it is coming 259 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: from you. So you know, how can you kind of 260 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: become more comfortable with these things and then figure out 261 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: how to make this a part of your life? Yeah? 262 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah. I it always goes back to for 263 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: me asking the question of why am I afraid of this? 264 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: And where it is that? Where does that fear come from? 265 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: Did you know did someone give that to me? And 266 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: and at like really sitting with that reflection in those questions. 267 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: I think that dreams can be really powerful and in 268 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: communicating with ancestors. And they happen because either there's a 269 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: message that we need to receive or there's it says 270 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: something about our openness and our connection to those that 271 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: have that have transitioned. And so, you know, if we 272 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: can just even begin to be curious. I use that 273 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: word a lot in my practice. Can you be curious 274 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: about what the dream is coming to teach you or 275 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: what it can offer you, just you know, just being curious. 276 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: Maybe that means writing it down in a journal, because 277 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: when you wake up from the dream, it's just it's 278 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: just too much to deal with, right and coming back 279 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: to it when the energy shifts or when it feels 280 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: like you might be able to sit with it a 281 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: little bit a little bit more peacefully. And so many 282 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: of us, I think have probably had this experience. I 283 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: think some of it too, dr joy is that we're 284 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: not talking with each other about these experiences, and so 285 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: we think that we're being haunted or something's wrong with us, 286 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: and no, this is a tool, this is our This 287 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: is some sort of communication from my ancestors. Letting letting 288 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: us know oftentimes that they're okay, that they're there for us. 289 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: All we have to do is call out their name 290 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: and say I need support or I'm struggling here, can 291 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: you stand with me in this? We We saw the 292 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: example when Nipsey Hustle died. I remembered that there was 293 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: a lot of buzz around how his mom um, you know, 294 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: offered libations to our ancestors by pouring water into a plant, 295 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: and people were like, what is that? What's going on? 296 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: That's how we That's one way we honor our ancestors 297 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: and we call them in. We call in their energy, 298 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: we call in their in their wisdom. Many people, I think, 299 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: in this space where there's curiosity, they might need a 300 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: little bit more guidance and are looking for some practical ways. 301 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: But again the intuition piece comes up for me. I 302 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: think what feels right? What like? Is it lighting a candle? 303 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Is it being in nature? Is it having a plant 304 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: that you water regularly? I mean this this can be 305 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: its own process. You know. Sometimes I make food that 306 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm know my people loved when they were here, and 307 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: I set it aside for them so that they can, 308 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: you know, have it that's one practice that I have, 309 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: and so there's there are so many different possibilities. And 310 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: I think when we open ourselves up to being guided 311 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: and even connecting with people who who do do this work, 312 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: for example, someone who does spiritual work in the community, 313 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: we can learn more and and integrate those things in 314 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: our practices as it makes sense for us. Got you 315 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: and so what are dr young some other types of 316 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: practitioners that one might even look too for some of 317 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: this more traditional medicine or other kinds of healing works, 318 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: Like what are the examples or possibilities of people somebody 319 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: might be able to work with? Yes, So when we 320 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: think about how life impacts us mind, body, heart, and spirit, 321 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: I keep talking about that and how we can integrate 322 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: different modes or modalities ways of healing that address and 323 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: nurture and hold each of those parts. The possibilities are 324 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: our endless. I like to remind people when I'm talking 325 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: about this piece that trauma and story and lived experience 326 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: can be encoded in our DNA. This is how the 327 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: intergenerational pieces are passed down. So I recently learned that 328 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: and this really fascinated me that as female babies in utero, 329 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: we carry all of our eggs. So this means that 330 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: when our great grandmother was pregnant with our grandmother, our 331 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: grandmother was housing the egg of what would become our 332 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 1: mother and so on, which, like I will let that 333 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: sink in. So our connections to our ancestors existed when 334 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: we were just eggs in our mother's wounds, before she 335 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: was even born. And I just think that that's so powerful. 336 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: So doesn't it make sense that we carry them with us, 337 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: We carry their stories, we carry our mom's stories, and 338 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: then we have our own. So we gotta get creative 339 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: and how we do the healing creative arts for example. 340 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: Creative arts uses different mediums like um, the use of 341 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: paint and drawing music. I recently came across the sister 342 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: who who sings songs to people in hospice care, and 343 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: I I've seen people use visual art. Also. Movement therapies. 344 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: This one's really important because a lot of the ways 345 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: in which, because of how life can impact the body 346 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: and the nervous system and the physiology, that we get 347 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: stuck in fight or flight mode. So movement therapies trauma 348 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: informed Yogo, which we talked a lot about last time, 349 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: dance and movement can really help us to find a 350 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: sense of safety and our bodies in time nutrition services. 351 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: How is what you're eating impacting your mood, your energy? 352 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: How is that supporting or hurting you in our relationship 353 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: with food? Semantic and body work therapies against somatic helps 354 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: us with the nervous system aspects and body work, and 355 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: there is a technique. I have a colleague here in 356 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: l A who does myofascial release and the fashia of 357 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: the body is basically like the the layer of skin, 358 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: right um, the layer of muscle like a under the 359 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: skin that holds a lot of our our nervous energy 360 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: and story. And so myofascial release helps to move some 361 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: of that energy and release it so we're not holding 362 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: it as aches and pains in the body women's health 363 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: things right like a lot of us have story or 364 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: fears around birth, our own birth, perhaps being mothers, and 365 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: also our real relationships with our bodies as women, and 366 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: so working with practitioners that can hold space for reconnecting 367 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: with our wounds. There have a colleague who does mayan 368 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: womb massage and this is about repairing the connection between 369 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: self and the womb. I have had hurt stories of 370 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: people who, for example, their families all the women and 371 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: their family have fibroids, and so they're just anticipating that 372 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: this is inevitable. But we know thoughts and words have energy, 373 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: and what we say and what we think oftentimes manifests. 374 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: And so how can we change the relationship with our 375 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: wounds through different healing practice, express work, the use of 376 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: color and guided imagery, and to create a womb that 377 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: is able to hold joy instead of pain. Energy healing 378 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: I've talked a lot about too, how we use the 379 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: universal energy um and the divine intelligence of our bodies 380 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: to create peace and harmony in the body. And then 381 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: spiritual and intuitive this can be as specific as finding 382 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: spiritual community where you feel safe and where it allows 383 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: you to explore and unpack and put down and pick 384 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: up new beliefs and to put down old ones or 385 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: to clarify them for yourself in spiritual I'm posting this 386 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: this week on the Healing Color page about spiritual baths. 387 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: You know that feeling where you are just feeling way 388 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: down and heavy, like you don't have much to give, 389 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: or perhaps you've picked up some negative energy from spaces 390 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: that you've been in and you just need a refresh 391 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: or a restart button. And so how can you use 392 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: essential oils, plants and ARBs to support you by creating 393 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: a spiritual bath and washing yourself in that to to 394 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: cleanse your energy. And so all of this is out there. 395 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: People I find are also really interested in tarot in 396 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: astrology and all of these things exist, but people don't 397 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: know where to locate them. And also, I would be 398 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't say this is every healer or 399 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: every person that's claiming to be a healer and putting 400 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: advertising certain skill sets are not necessarily um going to 401 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: be the best match for for you. And it also 402 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: may not mean that they have the skills that they 403 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 1: need to hold space for people. And so this is 404 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: also a part of the work. How do we empower 405 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: people to explore these modalities and also ask the questions 406 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: so that they know that this is a good fit. 407 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: We see this with within the therapy space as well. Right, 408 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: And that was gonna be my next question, right because 409 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, of course, and I mean you know, bad 410 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: therapists exists. It doesn't matter whether you have come through 411 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: the licensing board or not. But there is a board, 412 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, So there is like this kind of protocol 413 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: that most people go through to kind of be able 414 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: to call themselves therapists. And so I don't know that 415 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: that exists, you know, in like other modalities. So what 416 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: kinds of questions or what kinds of things should people 417 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: be looking for us to make sure you know that 418 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: they are kind of aligning themselves with people who have 419 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: good intentions and have done the right kinds of training 420 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: to be able to do the work that they're saying 421 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: they can do. Yes, I love that question. I think 422 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: that what happens a lot of the time, especially in 423 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: the space where in as people look at followers and 424 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: we assume this person must be you know um. And 425 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: so I am always going to go back to intuition, 426 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: and I am going to ask and encourage people to 427 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: check in with yourself when you when you do a 428 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: consultation with this person, when you look at their feed, 429 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: when you look at their website, how does your nervous 430 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: system feel? Not what is your mind thinking? Like, what 431 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: is it feel like in your body? That I will 432 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: always emphasize as a priority. And then there's the other 433 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: piece of doing your research. For some of the healers, 434 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: for example, that all that are listed on Healing Color. 435 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: They have a governing body much like we do, where 436 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: you have to have a license. So for some creative 437 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: arts therapists they'll be licensed by their state or before 438 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: a someone doing spiritual work maybe not, but we can 439 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: still ask questions around training and lineage and it's so 440 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: on and so forth. So that's been one of the 441 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: challenges with establishing this directory for healers of colors. There's 442 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: not a consent or like a betting process because there's 443 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: so many different healers and so many different backgrounds and 444 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: so on the website it's www dot Healing color dot 445 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: com and I'm I'll share it with you too so 446 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: that we can have it in the show notes. But 447 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: there is um a page that's for the healers and 448 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: a page for the people, and under the for the 449 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: people page and the f A queues there is a 450 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: question that says, how do I know what healer or 451 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: more or modality is best for me? And so in 452 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: addition to research, I've added a list of questions that 453 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: people are encouraged to ask. Can you tell me about 454 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: your approach to healing? Do you have any areas of specialty, 455 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: what's your experience working with issues or needs similar to mine. 456 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: Are there any negative side effects to your healing approach? 457 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Do you have any trauma informed practices? Would you consider 458 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: yourself or your healing space l g B, t q 459 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I A plus inclusive. So just for example, that's just 460 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: to get people started. And people can't answer these questions 461 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: for you, and or there's some resistance to answering those 462 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: questions and it might mean that they're not the right healer, right, 463 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: it's not the right space for you. So when healers 464 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: come to their directory, they're also provided this information and 465 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: they're told, um, where we want people to feel empowered 466 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: to ask questions and feel like they have have agency 467 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: and influence and how their healing happens. Because they are 468 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: the experts of their own experiences. We're just supporting them. 469 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: And so they're they're given the same list of questions 470 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: and if they can't answer it, that's something that you know, 471 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: we want to be cautious about. Now that's only for 472 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: healers and their directory, but these questions are available to everyone. Yeah, yeah, 473 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: And it sounds like you, like you said, you know 474 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: some of the same kinds of questions where you would 475 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: be looking for a therapist, right, Like you want them 476 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: to be able to give you information about how they work, 477 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: and you know, what kinds of special seas they have, 478 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: and those kinds of things to make sure it is 479 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: going to be a good fit for you, or at 480 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: least the best you know, try at a good fit 481 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: for you, right. Yeah, And we know sometimes, just like 482 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: looking for a therapist or a doctor, the first try, 483 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: you might get lucky and it's the best thing ever, 484 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: but sometimes, you know, it takes a little bit of 485 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: a journey and patience and research before we find that 486 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: that fit that we need. So something that you have 487 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: brought up, doctor Young, several times that I really want 488 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: to go back to because it's really important to me, 489 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: is the idea of intuition. Um. And you know, I 490 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: know I've said on other podcast episodes and even when 491 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: I've been interviewed, I really feel like my intuition is 492 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: really what makes me a good clinician or part of it, um. 493 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: But I also know that there are so many different 494 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: things that can happen in our lives that disconnects us 495 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: from our intuition, right. And so it's not that something 496 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: is kind of permanently broken, but as you've talked about, like, 497 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: there may be a process that needs to happen for 498 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: you to reconnect to it. Can you talk a little 499 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: bit about what that looks like like for somebody who 500 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: maybe his handsome trauma or things have happened that has 501 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: caused them to question their intuition, how can they reconnect 502 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: to that? Yeah, I I think this is a journey 503 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: that many of us are on. You know, when you 504 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: spend so much time being told who you are, um 505 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: having other people in the world define your experience and 506 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: and to determine your values and beliefs, and there you know, 507 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of us are kind of entering this space 508 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: where we're like, that's not working for me anymore, that's 509 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: not what I believe, that's not my truth, even if 510 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: it just starts off on the inside as a little 511 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: bit of discomfort, right like that pain in your stomach 512 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: you get um when something doesn't quite feel right. And 513 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: we're starting to see I think a lot of us, 514 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: with the help of therapy, that you're kind of moving 515 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: in in a way that that supports moving closer to truth. 516 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: And so I like to invite people to become curious 517 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: about where their intuition lives in their body. Um. This 518 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: is tricky though, because one of the things that I 519 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: say to people is um around intuition, is be clear 520 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: when you're between the difference of your trauma misleading you 521 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: and your intuition guiding you, because they can feel very 522 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: similar in your body. Right, Like, if let's go back 523 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: to the story of a mother Loan and some of 524 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: the ways that our patterns and relationships with women and 525 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: our family are passed down, UM, well, what can happen 526 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: is then we go out into the world and we're 527 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: trying we're being adults, trying to establish friendships with other 528 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: adults women, and we feel nervous or anxious. We um, 529 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: we're thinking that everybody is judging us, or that they're 530 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: being critical of us, that they're going to reject us. 531 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: And what does that feel like in the nervous system 532 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: where it feels like potentially the same way it feels 533 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: when we have some sort of um, uncomfortable or painful 534 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: experience with other women in our family. Suddenly we think 535 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: that we're back there. The body thinks that it's back 536 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: there when that's not necessarily what's happening in the present, 537 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: and that feeling of dis ease in the belly. Also, 538 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: sometimes it is how an intuition communicates, right, So I think, 539 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: you know that's a really big one. Is is opening 540 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: yourself up to explore that difference and what that means 541 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: for you? What is it? What is the trauma feel 542 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: like in my body or the pain? And what does 543 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: the intuition feel like? Is this what's happening right now? 544 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: Or this some of the old stuff speaking? And then 545 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: you know I had UM. A woman approached me. I 546 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: had a workshop recently, UM where we explored movement, music 547 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: and storytelling in the with the intention of creating empathy 548 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: for UM for others, and so UM we talked about 549 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: intuition in that space and she said, you know what 550 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: am I looking for? Like? How how do I know 551 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: what what intuition feels like in my body? And certainly 552 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: I can't tell people what it feels like in their bodies, 553 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: but what I can describe is what other people have 554 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 1: shared with me and my own UM. Oftentimes people say 555 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: that their intuition lives in their belly, some say in 556 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: their hearts, some say in the space between their eyebrows. UM. 557 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: Some people might describe a feeling of warmth UM. Some 558 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: people might say that they feel really soft and um 559 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: and they feel um, they feel really connected or grounded. 560 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: Some people might say if something is happening in their 561 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: intuition is not feeling good about it, they might experience 562 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: a little flutter in the heart space or tingling. Right. 563 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes it literally comes up as a voice in our 564 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: minds that says no or that says yes. And so 565 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: I invite people when they are looking for intuition to 566 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: pause and just check in with their bodies and what's 567 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: happening in their minds, um and and and to ask 568 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: the question, what is my intuition telling me? That is 569 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: an invitation to that voice to speak up in whatever 570 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: way it is gonna resonate and be heard by you 571 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: in the moment um. But this is ongoing, ongoing work 572 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: for sure. Mm hmmm. Yeah. And I think it kind 573 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: of goes back to the message that you have kind 574 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: of shared throughout this episode around curiosity. It's just kind 575 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: of asking the questions and giving your space, giving yourself 576 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: the time and space for the answers, right, like, not 577 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: thinking that the answer has to come up right now, 578 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: right right yeah. And the patients um and that um, 579 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: we can't expect that after a lifetime of being disconnected 580 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: from trauma or years, or I'm sorry, a lifetime of 581 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: being disconnected from our intuition because of trauma, or because 582 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: of negative experiences that we've had or hurtful things that 583 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: have happened, and or just being a black woman in 584 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: this world, that all of a sudden, our intuition is 585 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna pop right or it's gonna flex. I say 586 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: um to people all the time that when we when 587 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: we're not connected with intuition, it's kind of like a 588 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: muscle that's at trophy. If you don't use it, Um, 589 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: it might be a little bit weaker and quiet. But 590 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: the more that we um look for that, and the 591 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: more that we nurture that relationship, it gets stronger and 592 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: it gets louder, and it gets more vibrant, and soon, um, 593 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: we won't have to look for it. We'll just we'll 594 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: just know where it is and what it's saying to us. 595 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I love that, Young, Thank you for that. 596 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: So what are your some what are some of your 597 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: favorite resources for people who may be interested in kind 598 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: of learning more about what you've talked about, Like, are 599 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: there any books or things that you find yourself frequently 600 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: recommending The Body Keeps The Score by Vessel vander culkis 601 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: one that I will continue to recommend. Also, My Grandmother's 602 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: Hands is a book that talks about the ways in 603 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: which being a black person in the world of racism 604 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: and discrimination impacts us holistically, and that's one of my 605 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: my favorites. And then I you know, our really encourage people. 606 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: We're exploring on UM the Healing Color Instagram UM each 607 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: of the eleven categories that are in the directory, and 608 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: so right now we're in planting herbal medicine and we're 609 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: just kind of reviewing each of those just as a 610 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: taste or an introduction for many of us into what 611 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: our options are. And so that may also be a 612 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: good starting place. Okay, perfect, So what is the website? 613 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: Is it Healing Color dot com? Yes, okay, Healing Color 614 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: dot com. And then it sounds like you're on i 615 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: G any other social media platforms, just i G for 616 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: now okay, yeah, got you all right, So of course 617 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: all of that will be in the show notes so 618 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: that people can find it and connect with you there 619 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: UM and get some more information about the directory. Yes, 620 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: thank you well, thank you for joining us. Again, Dr Young, 621 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, if you missed her episode such an 622 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: eighteen about you know, dealing with sexual trauma and how 623 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: you can kind of reconnect with yourself after that, we 624 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: will include that in the show notes as well so 625 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: that you can listen to that one. Thank you and 626 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: Dr Joy. I wanted to share with you. I I 627 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: would love to be able to share this with you 628 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: and the recording just because it's something that I think 629 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: it's important to be witnessed I mentioned to you. But 630 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: of course, if if not, I understand. I mentioned to 631 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: you a few months ago that I had a dream 632 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: about you and yes for good and given given. You 633 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: know that that was one of the things that we 634 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: talked about today and how that connects often us with them, 635 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: with our ancestors and our spirit guides and and even 636 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: our intuition. I just wanted to share that with you. 637 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: Is that okay? Yes? Please? Okay? So I had a 638 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: dream that and where I saw you standing and and 639 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: just behind you was this large gathering community of people 640 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: behind you, mostly women. I knew that it was your ancestors. 641 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: I knew that it was your spiritual squad, and they 642 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: went on and on and on as far as I 643 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: could see, and so I sat with that dream because 644 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: it was so vivid and so touching, and even as 645 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm sharing it with you right now, I can I 646 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: can remember. And when I sat with it, I'm like, 647 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: what does this mean? Dr Joy and I have never 648 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: even met. Why might I be dreaming up about about 649 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: her in this way? And what came through was your 650 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 1: ancestors have been really busy and they are deeply proud 651 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: with you. I don't know what you've been through to 652 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 1: arrive and become, but because you're standing in your truth 653 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: and power, black women are feeling moved to heal themselves. 654 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: And certainly I can imagine that when you were in 655 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: the infancy of the Therapy for Black Girls movement, he said, 656 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: I want to help black women Hill, but did you 657 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 1: know that in doing so, you at birth and movement 658 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: that heals our mama's and our grandmama's and our ancestors 659 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: and our lineages for generations? Thank you? And did you 660 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: know that thousands of black women would be able to 661 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: financially sustain themselves and families off of earnings that come 662 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: from holding space for other Black women. I just want 663 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: you to know that I see you and I have 664 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: these deep, deep respects for you and yours and I 665 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful for you. Wow, thank you. Thank 666 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: you for sharing that, China. I really appreciate that. And 667 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm clearly tearful right now. And you shared 668 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: that because when you shared like what this squad was, 669 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: the first thing I thought about was all of you, 670 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 1: um and and how therapy for black girls has become 671 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: so much of like being able to connect with so 672 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: many incredible women who are holding space for other black women. 673 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: You know, So I I thought before you said it 674 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: was the ancestors of just the community of women I 675 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: feel like who have supported me and carried me in 676 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: this work and you know, chicken on me. And I 677 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: always want to make sure that I'm doing okay so 678 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: that I can continue to do this work. So I 679 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: really appreciate you shared that. Yeah, thank you for being 680 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: open to it. Yeah, yeah, wow, I appreciate that. I 681 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: definitely will keep that in the recording because I think 682 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: that is important to share. Yeah, thank you, And and 683 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, like some of the real is that every 684 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: time you connect with me or someone else and you're 685 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: you're helping them, their squad becomes a part of your squad, 686 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, in that realm, and so you know, that's 687 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: just that's just really beautiful. And so I know I 688 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: speak for a lot of people with gratitude and pride. Well, 689 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate and I appreciate all of you 690 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: who have shown up with me in this work and 691 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: it feels very special in that way. Mm hmm, well, 692 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I'm so grateful. Dr Young was 693 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: able to join us again to share more about her expertise. 694 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: To get more information about her and her practice and 695 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: the resources that she shared, be sure to visit the 696 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: show notes at Therapy for Black Girls dot com slash 697 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: Session one one, and please make sure to share this 698 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: episode in your circles and share your takeaways with us 699 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: either on Twitter or in your I G stories using 700 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: the hashtag tb G in session. 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