1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: So pleased to be joined by Dave Roberts, the manager 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: of the World Series champion Los Angeles Dodgers. Dave, I 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: tell you, it's an interesting thing, this great game of ours, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: because you get swept by the Angels and then you 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: sweep the Padres. Baseball is a conundrum. Make it make sense? Skip? 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: You know what? 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 3: If I had the answer to that one, guys, I 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: would have slept a lot better these last ten days. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't get it, you know. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: I think the only thing I can, I guess wrap 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: my head around is it's one hundred and sixty two games. 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: It's a long season, and I. 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: Know fans, media, us in the clubhouse don't understand why 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: we can't be consistent with our play or any team 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: for that matter. But it is crazy that, you know, 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: we haven't won a game against the Brewers all year, 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: can't beat the Angels, and then we you know, have 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: our way with the San Diego Padres up to this 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: point during the season. So, yeah, baseball is one of 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: those things that you just won't I don't think we'll 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: ever figure out out. 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's a very very weird game. 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: Saw a lot better brand of baseball out of your 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: ball club this weekend. 25 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 5: What can you say that you learned? 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Did the Dodgers learn anything about themselves from the series 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 4: of the Padres this weekend? 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: You know what? 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: What what I can say is, uh, you know, we 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: talked about urgency, and I've kind of said this the 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: last you know, a few days or during that series 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: where it's a it's a heightened focus. And I do 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: think that when I kind of do step away and 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: you see guys like Freddie Freeman, those guys guys like 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: him who just don't ever give away and at bat 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: or take a playoff, that's something that's hard to accomplish. 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: But I think as a group this past weekend we 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: did that. So I think that's so Quinn. I think, 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: sorry Clinton, So I think that the lesson is is 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: really try to get us individually to raise our sort 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: of intensity or focus, you know, from here on out. 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 6: Sorry Alana, Now that's okay. 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 7: Let's give some love to alex Vessius because alex Vestia 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 7: Dave has been put in situations that perhaps he's not 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 7: meant for at the moment, but he's risen to the occasion, 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 7: I mean, a big moment for him. 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: Yesterday kind of like that big dog moment. Where have 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: you seen him in terms of growth and development at 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: the back end of your pen. 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: Man, Alex is probably you know, I've had him for 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: I think what seven years, maybe something like that. 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: Six years. He's really really grown. 53 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: I think he's gotten a lot more comfortable in his 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: own skin. He's a quirky guy like most relievers are, 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: but I just really he's as hard a work a worker, 56 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: intentional workers I've ever been around. And his confidence has 57 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: grown tremendously, and you know, I think it was one 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: of those seasonal defining moments in the sense that you know, 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: his last four he scuffled, and he's never run from it, 60 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: and he's always taken the baseball. And then so right there, 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: I feel that he's one of the guys that one 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: of the core guys that we're gonna need throughout the postseason. 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: So I've got to instill confidence in him. And so 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: going to him in that spot, I felt good about 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: him in that spot. And then also he came to me, 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: to be quite honest, and said, if it's a safe situation, 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: if we score a run, I want the ninth. And 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: then so for me is when a player has skin 69 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: in the game and is that convicted and has earned 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: that right. 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: I'll bet on him. 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I want to follow on that because 73 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: we saw that, we heard about the conversation after the fact, 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: and you know, the bullpen obviously it's had its ups 75 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: and downs, probably a little bit more downs than anybody 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: was expecting this year. Alex said, you know, the dog 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: is still there, but maybe the dog was asleep in 78 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: the bullpen. 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 5: That felt like a dog moment. 80 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: How important was that to the guys in that clubhouse 81 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: to see Vesia kind of step up and take a 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 4: little bit of ownership in in a kind of leader 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: role where I mean, guys have been missing again throughout 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: the course of the season in that bullpen. It felt 85 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 4: like that is something to me, that's something big for 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: the rest of the dudes in that bullpen, where you're like, 87 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: f yeah, I can get behind this guy and now 88 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: we kind of get that momentum going in the bullpen again. 89 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 5: Am I reading. 90 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: Too much into this or how do you feel this 91 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 4: helps the rest of the boys in that pen. 92 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: You nailed it. 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: You nailed at Clint, and it's funny as a coach 94 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: where you can see guys evolve from the little puppy 95 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: to the big dog in a certain role, right, and 96 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: we've seen that from Alex, and he is a star 97 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: the pen. He's one of the leaders in the pen, 98 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: obviously losing Blake and getting Blake back, and you know 99 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: he's accrued some service time. He's won two championships and 100 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: so it's like, he's a guy, he's a real guy. 101 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: And I do think that him adding a little light 102 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: to the sleeping dog kind of message, not taking it 103 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: too seriously, but really taking it seriously. On the other 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: end of it is a message to the guys, because 105 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: I will say, in the pen, it's one of those 106 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: things that you know, you get gunshot, you get scared, 107 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: then it really kind of shows up. But for him 108 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: to bounce back the way he did definitely absolutely sends 109 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: a message to his guys. 110 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Dave, you talked about making sure Alex had the knowledge 111 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: that you had confidence in him. Let's speak to that 112 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: when it comes to Mooky Betts. How is a manager 113 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: do you tell MOOKI that you still have the confidence 114 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: in him a guy that seemingly lost confidence in himself. 115 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: I think it was one of those where Number one, 116 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: I didn't move him down, and he even at times 117 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: felt it might be better if he moved down in 118 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: the order, and actually I moved him up to hopefully 119 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: just change his you know way he looks at his 120 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: role with the club offensively to maybe be a table 121 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: setter that was short lived. And then basically I put 122 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: him in the two hole and I even said it publicly, 123 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: and I'm not going to give him any outs, and 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: He's going to be our two hole hitter indefinitely. We 125 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: don't have a better option in my opinion, when he's 126 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: in the lineup. And so I felt right there saying, 127 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: hey man, you're our two hole hitter indefinitely. So figured 128 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: out and he took it and ran with it. So 129 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: I think for me, that's the ultimate sign of confidence. 130 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good having Marcus lend Batts back in that lineup. 131 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's a dude, we were hoping for the 132 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: t deadline. It's like, if this happens. If this happens, 133 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: no other team is able to add Mookie back to 134 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: the lineup. You guys got him going again. It's it's 135 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: really good to see him. Other pieces added back to 136 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: the active roster. You're getting Snell, you got Snell back, 137 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: Glass now back finally seeing that starting rotation that pissed 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: everybody off in the offseason. 139 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: You know, they bring baseball. 140 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 4: How has that been to see this unit of five 141 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: or six dudes come together, don't sleep on Clayton Kershaw 142 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: by the way, how has that been for you to see? 143 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: And can we say this is the best starting rotation 144 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: in baseball? 145 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 146 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can say, you know, one through one through six, 147 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: it's certainly the best rotation in baseball one through five. 148 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: I still love what Emmitt's doing and it is nice. 149 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: You know, each night we can I write the lineup 150 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: and I see that starting pitch and I go, man, 151 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: I like our guy better than their guy. And that's 152 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: a good feeling. And you know, even Yama coming off 153 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: a bad one, I think he's to be certainly motivated 154 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: here tonight. 155 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: And then we got show. Hey, who I know. 156 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: When he pitched on Wednesday, We're going to see a show. Hey, 157 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: that's going to dominate for five innings and so and 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: the same thing with Emmett. So I just think we're 159 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: going to keep this train moving and it feels good. 160 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: And I just think that, you know, if we can 161 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: continue to keep these guys healthy and perform the way 162 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: that they're capable of. Everything sort of feeds off of 163 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: starting pitching for our club this year. And I think 164 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: last year we did it with with a lineup and 165 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: a crazy bullpen management situation. But for us to win 166 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: the last game in October, it's gonna have to be 167 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: our starting. 168 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: Pitching this year. 169 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: And Dave is that is rookie Sasak on that starting train. 170 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: What's the latest with him and is he willing or 171 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: do you guys see a world in which Sasaki because 172 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: of where he's at and the season could come out 173 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: of the pen for you. 174 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: So you know Roki right now, he's going to pitch 175 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: later this week. I don't know if it's Wednesday, Thursday, 176 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: or Friday, it's later this week. 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What has been the biggest challenge so far 211 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 5: this season? 212 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can start a laundering list if you need. 213 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Oh my god, as I put my 214 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: head down, and I think the biggest challenge, the biggest 215 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: challenge is here's the thing is when you're starting pitching, 216 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: wasn't healthy and then your bullpen was banged up. So 217 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: this is a run prevention thing, certainly in the sense 218 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: that you're trying to figure out how far you can 219 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: push guys that aren't really ready to face call it 220 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: twenty three twenty four hitters, and then also have guys 221 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 3: like Alex Vesia, you know Tanner, Scott kirbyates early that 222 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: you can kind of put in different roles to kind 223 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: of kick the game down the road to save the 224 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: game potentially earlier than you'd like. But if you look 225 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: at a lot of Major League games, a lot of 226 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: games are won and loss in the fifth and sixth inning, 227 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: and so it was hard to push starting pitchers early 228 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: because that's when injuries typically happen than not redline relievers, 229 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: so kind of balancing threading that needle. Clint was probably 230 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: the toughest part. Fortunately, knock on wood, we've had positional 231 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: player health outside of obviously a few guys, but that 232 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: part of the pitching was probably the most like mind 233 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: numbing thing for me. 234 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I just want to give you 235 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: a hug. Yeah, let's think of the positive right now. 236 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: Will Smith, my goodness, he set the world on fire 237 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Don't run on Willie Dill's. This is a 238 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: guy that has been so instrumental behind the plate managing 239 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: your pitching staff obviously, but to have a guy that 240 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: can hit like that and do so many things has 241 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: got to be pretty special. What do you take away 242 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: from him? 243 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: I think he's Freddie Freeman two point zero. I think 244 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: that he has really become a much better ballplayer because 245 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: of Freddie Freeman. And Will doesn't speak a lot, but 246 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: he watches, and I think that he's really learned from 247 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: Freddie as far as how to take it bats and 248 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: behind the plate. He just has a great relationship with 249 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: our pitchers. Uh, the arm really plays. And I think 250 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 3: last year I read that he led major league catchers 251 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: and caught stealing. So I said it the other day. 252 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 3: I think he's the best catcher in all of baseball 253 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: and we're lucky to have him. 254 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: I want to touch on some of the you know, 255 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: the bats of the dudes in the that that line 256 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: up there Taoskar and and has loved the dude, A 257 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 4: great guy in that clubhouse. We know that hasn't been 258 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: quite the same season. We're seeing some good some bad 259 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 4: here and there where you think, what are you seeing 260 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: in Tayo right now and over the course of the season, 261 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: and you know, can we expect that that full uh 262 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: you know, postseason version of ta Oskar back when we 263 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: need him most, you know, in October? 264 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: You know, I think I yes, is the answer. 265 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: I think with Tayo, there was an injury earlier, wasn't 266 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: hasn't been the same since. Uh, he's healthy now. But 267 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: I do think that he is one of those guys 268 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: that when the big moment presents itself, he's there. You know, 269 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: certain people, you know that's what they have. You know, 270 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: Keyk is one of those guys as well. And I 271 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: just had a good feeling that once we played the Padres, 272 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: it was gonna light a fire under him. 273 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: And you can just see. 274 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: Uh, there was just a little bit more hide and 275 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: focus there was, And you know. 276 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: Tayo himself can deny it, but I see it. 277 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: I watched every bet, every play, and you know, in 278 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: big games in the postseason, the best of tail comes out. 279 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: Now the key is for us to get the best 280 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: of him, you know, for the rest of the season, 281 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: because all these games matter. 282 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: Dave, there was a time early on in the season, 283 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: I'll admit it that I wanted to send Andy Pajes 284 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: to the moon, and I'm so glad that I didn't 285 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: send him to the moon because he has been so 286 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: good in so many different ways for this club, and 287 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't patient enough with him. 288 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: But you were. 289 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: Can you speak to the growth of what you've seen 290 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: from pa Has. 291 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: First of all, I want to give you props for 292 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: even saying that I didn't know that was your thought earlier. 293 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: But I love that you held yourself accountable. Thank you 294 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: for that. I just think for me, Ilana, it's one 295 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: of those things that I see behind the curtain. I 296 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: see a kid from Cuba who has gotten considerably better, 297 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: who works as good as any young player I've seen, 298 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: and he's grown big time with that he's not scared 299 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: of moments, and when you play for Thes, you are 300 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: you're going. 301 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: To play in a lot of big moments. 302 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: He's not your prototypical center fielder, but his jumps have 303 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: gotten better, his arm strength is an eighty and accuracy 304 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: baked in as we saw yesterday, and I just felt that, 305 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: you know, hitting sixth or seventh in the order, he 306 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: can drive in a run. I just felt that he 307 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: cleaned up the fastball at the top of the zone 308 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: with his swing. He's got different swings different clubs. I 309 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: talk about at times he now has a swing within 310 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: a swing, and we saw that yesterday where he's got 311 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: a swing, but then he gets a slider and he's 312 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: got another swing within that to be able to ride 313 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: that ball out for a homer. So those are the 314 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: things that I started to see and was willing to 315 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: bet on. And you can see, guys that there's certain 316 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: players that I certainly have patients, more patients probably than 317 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: most people would like. But I just it's it's partly 318 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: my job to believe in people on our club. 319 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a perfect segue, because I think 320 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 4: our fans would be upset with me with us if 321 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 4: we didn't have to ask you about Michael Conforto. Obviously 322 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: not at all the season he was expecting You guys 323 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: are expecting love the hat tip of you never giving 324 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 4: up on your dudes, and that's what makes you so 325 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: so damn good at this job. At some point, obviously 326 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: you really want to see the reward for that patience. 327 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 4: What are you kind of seeing with Confordo? And you know, 328 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: I guess we could be blunt as I keep playing 329 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 4: bad cop and our good cup bad cop interview with 330 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: you here is he gonna be kind of the dude 331 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: for you in the postseason? 332 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: That that is a fair, fair question that remains to 333 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: be seen. That is up to Michael to be quite 334 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: honest with you. I think a lot of what I 335 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: look at, you know, there's a track record, there's obviously 336 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: there's a recency, and also the other part of is 337 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: what's the other alternative? 338 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: Right? 339 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: And I think that you know, when you look at 340 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: things like that, the on basi is completely fine. And 341 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: I felt that he I feel that there's not a 342 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: better option verse right. I've given him some opportunities versus left, 343 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: which he did the other day, versus Montsilli got a 344 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 3: base at the left. I feel that he's he's making 345 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: some strides this past series, so we're going to see 346 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: but it's not an extended leash. But again you also 347 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: have to look at who's a better alternative verse right 348 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: So right now my money's on Michael And to your question, 349 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: I hope he is the guy in October because I 350 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: do think that if we have a hymn and Keith 351 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: Gay are a call situation, that's our highest ceiling for 352 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: left field for the postseason. 353 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Dave, six games with the Padres with a ten day window. Obviously, 354 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: you just swept San Diego recently, a series with Colorado. 355 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: Now you're in Denver as we speak, and then San 356 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: Diego again. Does the division get decided this month? 357 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: Probably not. 358 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: No, and I and I guess I can say that 359 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: pretty easily because the way we gave away five or 360 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: six games so quickly, so. 361 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: I guess we've lived it. That probably probably not. 362 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: Baseball. Again, we just talked about baseball. 363 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: That is, So that's why you should just stick to golf. 364 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: Where are you hitting the links? Are you hitting the links? 365 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: That all? 366 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 7: Today? 367 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: In Denver? The ball flies there, Dave. 368 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I play the meters Alta in Denver with the 369 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 3: with the golf yardage, and I'm playing with my son actually, 370 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: so we're gonna go play Cherry Hills a little bit later. 371 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: The ladies are gonna go off early. Then I'm just 372 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: going to play nine and then head the core. So yeah, 373 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: So I got my golf a tire on, and honestly, 374 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 3: I think that's been good for me because it's just 375 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: a little something for myself and can hit the ball 376 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: with my son a little bit and then kind of 377 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: locking on baseball. So it's been a good kind of 378 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: yin and yang for me. 379 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: Where is he at in the whole baseball development with 380 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: where is how's he doing? 381 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: He's not playing actively right now, and he's kind of 382 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: trying to figure out if he wants to keep doing 383 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: this grind or or figure something else out. But he's 384 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 3: with me, He's somewhere around. But for me selfishly as 385 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: a dad, I get my son for a couple extra months, 386 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: which is great. 387 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 5: That's awesome. 388 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: Well, Dave, we appreciate your time man. As always, it's 389 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: a blast talk in baseball with you. Appreciate you letting 390 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: me grill you a little bit. Not that you get 391 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: enough of that. Day to day with the regular beat writers. 392 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: But hey, go give him hell in Colorado. 393 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 5: Man. 394 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 3: No, we will no letdowns, And honestly, I think it's 395 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: honestly refreshing just to talk to baseball. So I think, 396 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: you know, this gives me an opportunity to kind of 397 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: give everyone a look behind the curtain and be honest 398 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: and transparent because a lot of times, you know, people 399 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: don't know everything I know. 400 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: But this is good. I appreciate you, guys, Dave. 401 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: Nobody knows everything that you know, and that's why we 402 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: want to ask the questions like that's why this team 403 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: is so damn good and the way that you manage 404 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: is so refreshing. Thank you, Skip, We appreciate you. Please 405 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: give my best to the family and go get those Rockies. 406 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: All right, guys, take care