1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: There's an old adage that if you want to find 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: a person's real motives, follow the money. When someone tells 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: you it's not about the money, rest assured it's about 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: the money. They say it's not about the money because 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: they know you know it's about the money, and they 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: have to address the fact that you're thinking, well, all 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: you care about is the money. So they say, it's 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: not about the money, It's about the principle. But is it, 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: because it never is. I tell you what, then, I 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: won't pay you the money, but I will do what 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: you want me to do, and we'll see if this 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: is about the principle or the money. Well, other money, 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: A little bit. Money matters a little bit. Joe Biden 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: and the Democrats decimate our oil industry in favor of 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: electric vehicles when solar, that's a foolish road to take. 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: And if you ask yourself if they're stupid or purposely 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: trying to destroy America, a question that we spent eight 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: years of the Obama administration trying to figure out. Is 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: Obama just a complete, blithering idiot or is this all 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: part of an evil plan? And the reaction seemed to 21 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: be split, but the answer for the Biden administration seems 22 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: a little simpler than that. You just follow the money. 23 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: John Stossel, who is technically a libertarian, but he was 24 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: on Fox for many years and now he's off on 25 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: his own and he's doing some of the best work 26 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: in journalism out there. It's magazine style instead of a 27 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: daily report, but he tends to go a little deeper, 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: and we play some of his stuff here on the 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: show because us we think it's very well done. He's 30 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: got a piece on corporate freeloaders where he explains how 31 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: the system works. And I wouldn't call the corporation's freeloaders 32 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: as much as i'd call them investors. Instead of investing 33 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: in research and development in order to win your heart 34 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: your decision making in the marketplace, they invest in politicians. 35 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: That's where the money comes from. That drives policy, because 36 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to solar wind electric you don't make 37 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: those decisions in a free marketplace. You make those decisions 38 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: because you're compelled. You make those decisions out of guilt. 39 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: You make those decisions because the government gives you a 40 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: subsidy an incentive to do it. So follow the money. 41 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: In America today, the bigger recipient of handouts is not 42 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: poor people, it's corporations. 43 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Imagination at work. 44 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: GE is the biggest industrial corporation in the world. Here's 45 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: their CEO with President Obama. 46 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: Jeff Immelt is perhaps the CEO who's most cozy with 47 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: President Obama. 48 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: And Jeff Immolt was recently named the country's jobs are 49 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: I am so proud and pleased that Jeff has agreed 50 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: to share this package. 51 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: General Electric is structuring their business around where government is going, 52 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: so everything from high speed rail, solar wind, General Electric 53 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: is lining up to get what government's handing out. 54 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: The New York Times reports that government handed out so 55 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: many tax breaks to GE thanks to their fierce lobbying, 56 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: that despite billions of dollars in profit, they'll pay no 57 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: taxes this year. What's upon a time in America, companies 58 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: got money from investors and created wealth by inventing things. 59 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: Twenty five years ago. 60 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: My friends and I started with nothing but an idea. 61 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: Microsoft did that. They started with nothing and created billions 62 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: in shareholder wealth. 63 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: But then Microsoft is free to compete, and compete aggressively 64 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: but not unlawfully. 65 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: The government sued Microsoft for offering people free software at 66 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: the time. 67 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: Microsoft spent exactly zero dollars on lobbying. They were busy 68 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: changing the world. They were busy creating computer revolution and 69 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 5: helping the Internet revolution. And for that they got drawn 70 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 5: into court. They spent millions and hundreds of millions defending 71 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: themselves against the Justice Department. So how much money they 72 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 5: spent today on lobbyists? Hundreds of millions of dollars a year. 73 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: They learned their ugly lessons. 74 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: We created a system in which if you don't do it, 75 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 5: you had a competitive disadvantage. 76 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: A public private partnership, a public private partnership. 77 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: Public private partnership. Businesses love to have a partner in government. 78 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: This little window maker must have loved the attention it 79 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: got by having the Vice president praise its products. 80 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: You're not just churning out windows, You're making some of 81 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: the most energy efficient windows of the world. 82 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: Think getting the vice president was a big deal. Heck, 83 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: they got the president too. 84 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 6: And these workers will now have a new mission producing 85 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 6: some of the most energy efficient windows in the world. 86 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: Other companies don't get so much government help, but this 87 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: company gave money to the Democrats, and one of their 88 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: executives was married to an important Energy Department official. It 89 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: sure is nice to get special government help. 90 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 6: Thank you, mister Vice President, for your unwavering support. 91 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: Left wing think tanks criticize corporate welfare, but somehow green 92 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: handouts they're okay. 93 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 7: Everybody wants to find a better fuel efficient way to 94 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 7: go about their daily business. The government's to invest in 95 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 7: certain companies to pioneer new technologies that I think is 96 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 7: not corporate welfare. 97 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: The business is too dumb to invest in it without 98 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: government saying do this. And here's hell. 99 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 7: The private sector will only invest if they know for 100 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 7: sure that there is a commercial marketplace. 101 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: But you say everybody wants these things, isn't that enough 102 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: incentive for private, greedy businesses to make it. 103 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 7: The free market does not know anything unless we all 104 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 7: collect our interests and say this is of national import 105 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 7: to us. 106 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 5: Central planning does not work. It doesn't work in any industry, 107 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 5: It doesn't work in any in any kind of economy. 108 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: But since they're going to centrally plan, they'll give out 109 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: special favors to their politically savvy people who are best 110 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: at lobbying for them. 111 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: Of at least two hundred million dollars is needed. 112 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: And so the government pours billions of your dollars into 113 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: projects like the Roscoe wind farm in Texas. It's half 114 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: owned by GE. 115 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: Even if this wind farm produces nothing of value, they 116 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: are getting money from the US taxpacker. 117 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: Maybe we don't need win turbine. Maybe it's a waste 118 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: of money. 119 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 7: Well, maybe it is, but it should be one thing 120 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 7: that we as a nation are investing in so that 121 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 7: we aren't left behind some. 122 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: Of the cleanest renewable energy for on Earth. 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: GE would not agree to be interviewed. Maybe that's a 124 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: good thing if it means companies are now getting embarrassed 125 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: about the handouts. Thirteen years ago, when I wanted to 126 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: confront a business about it's free loading, the ceo is 127 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: so brazen he flew me to his headquarters in one 128 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: of his fancy jets, cold gold plated ath else. At 129 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: the time, this man was the biggest recipient of handouts. 130 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: Duayne Andreas, CEO of ethanol maker ADM. You're a pig 131 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: feeding at the welfare trough. 132 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 6: Why should I care? 133 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: Doesn't bother you out a bit. 134 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: Many beneficiaries of corporate welfare really believe that they're being 135 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: paid to help the country. What I'm providing is so 136 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: good that it ought to be subsidized. 137 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, a lot of American companies have become muchas off 138 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 5: the government have been. They go to the guvernment to 139 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: manipulate the system in their favor. That's what's not business 140 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: is about. That's not what capitalism is about. 141 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: But today, unfortunately, it is a way for capitalists to freedom. 142 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: America is a nation that can be defined in a 143 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: single word. I was gonna foot him to put number nine. 144 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: Not only was it authentic frontier jibbery, it expressed their. 145 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: Curry scene of this day and the Michael Berry Show 146 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: j C. 147 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: You're onld Michael Berry Show, go ahead doing sir. 148 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 6: Uh Yeah. We take out veterans honning. We partner up 149 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 6: with another group and they bring veterans out that have 150 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 6: been in combat and we get to spend We've been 151 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 6: doing it for about four or five years now. We 152 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 6: get to spend at least the weekend with them and 153 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 6: it's really impactful in their lives and on ours. You 154 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 6: get to hear some stories that are amazing, Touch your 155 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 6: touch your heart, make you realize how blessed we are 156 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 6: here to how easy our lives actually are. Well hear 157 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 6: what they go through. But one of the first guys 158 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 6: I took took out hunting. Uh he Uh, I might 159 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: get a choked cats to bear with me. 160 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Friends, either you get choked up because you care so 161 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: passionately about veterans and the experience you gave them. I 162 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: got a note you take all the time you want 163 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: them turning off on Michael phone. 164 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 6: So we became real good friends. Funny story is about it. 165 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: We were out on had three of them with me. 166 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 6: They wanted to go try to get some coyote's, so 167 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 6: I set up a coyote call, and I knew probably 168 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 6: weren't gonna see anything because we weren't hearing them, and 169 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 6: we've been snaring them pretty good. So we put a 170 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 6: good debt in the population. So I set up a 171 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 6: kyote call, get them all in different areas where we 172 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 6: have different lengths to shoot out of. And I laid 173 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 6: down next to Jonathan and uh, We're sitting there, sitting there, 174 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 6: and he's hunted a lot in his life. And he 175 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 6: looked at him and he goes, they ain't coming, are they? No? 176 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 6: I don't think they are. He goes, man, can we 177 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 6: go look for some sheds? I said, yeah, absolutely, man, 178 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 6: we'll go look for some sheds, talking about antler shed 179 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 6: that fall off every year. 180 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: Hunting. Okay, all right, go ahead, no. 181 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 6: No sheds. It's actually sheds off, they said, their antlers 182 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 6: every year and you can walk around and pick them up. 183 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 6: Pretty cool deal. And so we're walking around and you know, 184 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 6: just two guys in the woods and I said, man, 185 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 6: so I don't. I said, I'm a very blunt PERSONA Man, 186 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know how to say it. But 187 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 6: you seem pretty normal, man, So what's what's up with you? 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 6: And uh he uh, He's like, man, I've got a 189 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 6: tv I and PTSD. So he was actually uh his 190 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 6: taint got hit by an ID and he was actually 191 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 6: m I A for twenty one days. And uh that 192 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 6: started our relationship right there, and uh, every year since then, 193 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 6: it's been coming up on three years now. We meet 194 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 6: up at least once a year. He actually we just 195 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 6: did a veteran hunt two weekends ago and then he 196 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 6: came in to Pew David Worthing skiving flew in and 197 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 6: we went back to the ranch, did some hunting, and 198 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 6: uh we were sitting, uh, we were sitting upside and 199 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 6: I could tell he was getting Uh. We were talking 200 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 6: and you know, talks to get deep over some some 201 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 6: beers and some whiskey drinks. And uh, one of my 202 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 6: wife's friends was there and she went in decided. And 203 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 6: my wife she's like, I think we're getting sreed. She's like, 204 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 6: leave them alone, let them do the things they got 205 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 6: to get this, you know, get it off their chest. 206 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 6: And she's been around to them, um, so she's just like, 207 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 6: let them be. And Uh, he's taught us about somebody 208 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 6: that he served with that he he helped train, I guess, 209 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 6: and uh, he's wore this bracelet on his wrist, you know, 210 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 6: it says, Uh, I'm gonna read it real quick. I 211 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 6: guess it's some purple David Jay Vines. Sam says in 212 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 6: US Marine Corps Iraqi Freedom eleven six K I A H. 213 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 6: And he's always had this bracelet on him. And when 214 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 6: he goes out on trips or hunts or whatever, he 215 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 6: takes the pictures with that thing. And and said to 216 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 6: that guy's dad, who is now a very good friend 217 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 6: slash father to him and sends pictures to him and 218 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 6: his memory and his honor. And he looked at us, 219 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 6: me and my buddy Jason, that we've all become really 220 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 6: good friends and said, hey, I want to do something 221 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 6: with y'all. He took that bracelet off and put it 222 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 6: down next to us. He said, I'm gonna be back 223 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 6: in the year. I want you to wear it for 224 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 6: six months, and you to wear it for six months 225 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 6: and take pictures and send them to me so I 226 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 6: can send him to his dad. And he hasn't taken 227 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 6: this bracelet off in years. And to be entrusted with 228 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 6: something like that is it is really amazing. And you know, 229 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 6: it all started over relationships, over over a deer hunt. 230 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 6: And I've dealt with several of these guys now and 231 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 6: we look at it as age, just a deer man. 232 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 6: It's you know, if you have a scale where you 233 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 6: put one thing on one side and one on the other, 234 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 6: it goes up and down. We look at what they 235 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 6: did and that scale was weighted down heavy on their side, 236 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: and we look at it going. Man, we just all 237 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 6: were to being able to do this, give you a 238 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 6: hunt and gives you a deer and just listen to 239 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 6: y'all and talk with y'all, and it's just no comparison. 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 6: The one thing I've learned is it's the exact opposite 241 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 6: to them. It's not just a deer to them. Hearing 242 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 6: some of these stories, one of the guys told us 243 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 6: that one of his friends, you know, was blown up 244 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 6: missing an armor leg type deal, and always turned out 245 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 6: in these hunts and finally went on one because he 246 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 6: was debating suicide and shot a deer and was able 247 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 6: to put food on the table. And he told us 248 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 6: that literally this saved that man's life one of these 249 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 6: hunts that he realized he's still a man. He can 250 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 6: still put food on his table to support his family 251 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 6: and man if y'all have opportunities that you own a 252 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 6: ranch or you're part of something, whether it's hunting, fishing. 253 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 6: I know they do fishing trips, to do all kinds 254 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 6: of stuff. Reach out to these different organizations. The one 255 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 6: that we deal with is Combat Ring out Doors, which 256 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 6: was started by two Marines, but they do every branch 257 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 6: of the military and they bring these guys out. Man, 258 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 6: it's truly life changing for them and you get to 259 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 6: see them decompressed. And the two weekends ago, the one 260 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 6: night I took he had TBI and PTSD. He was 261 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 6: hit by three IED's and he just looked at me 262 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 6: while we're in the stand and he said, man, thank 263 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 6: you so much. I was able to unplug for three 264 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 6: days and I really felt peace for the first time 265 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 6: in a while. So it's just it's it's an amazing 266 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 6: experience for everybody. 267 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: J C. 268 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for doing that. And I 269 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: suspect you would agree with my assessment that you took 270 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: more away from that time you spent with that better 271 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: and than he did. And that's not to diminish what 272 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: it meant to him. It's that very few things in 273 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: life will give you the fulfillment that that did. 274 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's and I've been blessed with a good family, 275 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 6: wife and kids that you know, they let me take 276 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 6: time away from our schedule to go do this for them, 277 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 6: and it's it's it's even though my family's not always there, 278 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 6: my family's there and we're all saying thank you to them, 279 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 6: and Jenny any better than who the service, thank you. 280 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: You know. 281 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: Yes, one of the things I'll tell you that I've 282 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: been doing radio for seventeen years and I've had other 283 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: careers and I've done things for people in some way 284 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: or another. And I often say this and it makes 285 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: people uncomfortable, but it is true. People don't want to 286 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: admit this, but that which we do for other people, 287 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: we do because we are selfish, extremely selfish. Now people 288 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: will say, I am so self less. I do things 289 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: for other people to help other people. If doing things 290 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: to help other people did not give us a sense 291 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: of fulfillment on a profound level, we wouldn't do it. 292 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: We wouldn't. And I will tell you that we landed 293 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: on combat veterans with PTSD and that has occupied a 294 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: great deal of my energy since then. It's been ten 295 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: years now, which you celebrated ten years Camp Hope. And 296 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: the beauty is especially for guys if you if you 297 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: are a hunting and fishing guy, you got to realize 298 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: the people who went and served in Afghanistan and Iraq. 299 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: You think about the demographic. A large number of those 300 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: guys are rednecks from small towns that love to hunt 301 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: and fish. And when you think about you've got something 302 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: that you don't even think of you it's deer huntings. Easy, 303 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: you go deer hunt, or you go out fishing, or 304 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, you do outdoors activities. Man, that's you could 305 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: take that guy to the ball game, sure that's fine, 306 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: but you take him fishing. Oh, man, and I will, 307 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: I will promise you this. I will, I will make 308 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: this guarantee to you if you do that for a 309 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: combat veterans suffering from PTSD. You get out there, you'll 310 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: feel so good about yourself as you're going, I'm gonna 311 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: take some veterans out because you want the credit, right, 312 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna text some veterans out. I'm gonna do this 313 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: we have and you'll get out there and the new 314 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: will wear off of that penny. The shine will wear off, 315 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: and a few hours into it, you will realize you 316 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: are going to gain more from this experience than that 317 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: guy is, because this is going to put it all 318 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: into perspective. Because you sleep like a baby through the night, 319 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: because you have full use of all your appendages, you 320 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: will find because you don't have horrible nightmares and desires 321 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: to kill yourself, and you don't have tattoos that remind 322 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: you of their buddy who they had to carry to 323 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: the helicopter to be hauled away so that he could 324 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: be brought home at least as a body to be buried. 325 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: Those are things you never forget. You will from that 326 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: experience be forever change. 327 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: You've got the Schoolberry's show. 328 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to call this segment, or ask 329 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: you to slug this segment as sleep, all things related 330 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: to sleep. And here it goes, ask yourself, are you 331 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: getting a minimum solid seven hours of sleep per night? 332 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: Because if you're not, it will affect every other aspect 333 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: of your life, every other aspect. For most of my 334 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: life I have gone, on frequent occasion on three or 335 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: four hours of sleep, and before I was fifty, I 336 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: could get away with that. And one of my great 337 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: life skills that everybody who knew me well would always 338 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: remark was that I could stay up later than you 339 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: can imagine, drink more than you can imagine, smoke more 340 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: cigars than you can imagine, eat more fried chicken or 341 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: barbecue than you could imagine, and get up two hours 342 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: later and do the show without a single person knowing. 343 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: And so people will be at my house till four thirty, 344 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Go catch a little cat nap hour, wake up, get 345 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: into the studio, do the show. And about eleven thirty, 346 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: after we'd gone off air and we're working on production 347 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: elements and writing bits and all that, people would email 348 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: me from the night before and Ninka, hey did you 349 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: do the show? Because I just woke up. Yeah, I 350 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: did to tell that's what I do, but that will 351 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: wreck your body, wreck it. And I know you're not 352 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: doing that, but let me just let me just out 353 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: of love for you, our listeners give you a little 354 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: bit of advice that you didn't ask for, but I 355 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: hope you'll take it in the right vein. If you'll 356 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: get more sleep, it will solve a lot of your problems, 357 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: including but not limited to weight. So I try to 358 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: get eight hours sleep right now. I'm in the middle 359 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: of a really good book. So last night I read 360 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: in bed, which I like to do because you fall 361 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: asleep real nice. But finally my wife was like, all right, 362 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: let's go to sleep, and so I did. But I 363 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: didn't get my full I didn't get my full night 364 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: of sleep like I like to do. But that's a 365 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: rare event. Even that was just a little bit short. 366 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: You will find it much easier to fast or do 367 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: whatever you're dieting on if you have more sleep. If 368 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: you are short of sleep, you will find that comfort 369 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: food is your friend. It's very, very hard to cut 370 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: back your caloric intake on short sleep. You're cranky and 371 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: your resistance is down. If you're not getting a full 372 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: night of sleep every single night, you're not going to 373 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: lose weight. That's a fact. Doctors will tell you that 374 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: focus on this sort of stuff. Fat people famously don't 375 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: get sleep. They don't they stay up all night, they 376 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: turn the TV on, they flip channels all night, they 377 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: stay up all night. And whether you eat in bed 378 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: late at night, which is also another horrible habit. But 379 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: if you do that, you're also extending the night and 380 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: not getting enough sleep. You can't possibly do what you 381 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: need to do the next day. And this is coming 382 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: from a person who has struggled my entire life to 383 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: go to sleep because I don't want the data end. 384 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: But now I call my parents every night by eight 385 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: o'clock and my Mama, you sound like you're going to 386 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: bed at when we hang up, I'm going I'm gonna 387 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: spend a little time with the kids, catch up on 388 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: the day, and I'm going to bed with the goal 389 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: of being asleep as early as possible, which I never done. 390 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: I have never ever done. My dad always wanted me to. 391 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: You got to get more sleep, and that means a 392 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: couple of things. That means you've got to shut down 393 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: all the digital things you can read about it. I'm 394 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: not gonna waste a bunch of your time. But if 395 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: you're on that damn phone, nothing you're doing is useful. 396 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: You're just killing time. It becomes I hate to overuse 397 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: the word addiction, but it becomes sort of an addiction, 398 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: becomes a habit. You get habituated to it, and it's 399 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: emanating from that blue screen a message to your brain 400 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: that says, don't shut down, you don't send the serotonins, 401 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: you don't start to slow down, put that thing away, 402 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: and don't leave it next Unless you are an overnight 403 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: tow truck driver or a fireman, a volunteer fireman, you 404 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: do not need to be reached in the middle of 405 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: the night. Ninety five percent of people who have their 406 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: phone next to their bed. That's the worst thing you 407 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: can do, because then you get some idiot like me 408 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: that's drunk at two o'clock in the morning calling you 409 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: and you're picking up because there's a group going high way. 410 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm done, well, I'm sleeping, Michael is two o'clock. We're 411 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: all here and we're talking about y who we're what 412 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: are you? Ain'ty there? 413 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? 414 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 1: Yes, she's asleep, Okay, Okay, we're here, we're you were 415 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You don't need that call. That 416 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: call will appear as a lost call. The other thing 417 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: is people call you at two o'clock in the morning 418 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: to bail them out from a DWI or get them 419 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: out of trouble. Or you don't need to be that either. 420 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: You don't need to help them out of their bad decisions. 421 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: Let them dry out in the tank, and late the 422 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: next morning they'll they get another call. They give them 423 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: a few calls so they get an Oh, they might 424 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: call somebody it's closer to them than you are, and 425 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: then you didn't have to go pick them up in 426 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: the first place and waste all that time. Uh, turn, 427 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: put your phone in another room and turn off the ringer. 428 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: You don't need the ringer. Geez, turn the damn ringer 429 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: off all the time. Put it in another room where 430 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: it can't bother you. If at all possible, do these things. 431 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: Make your room as dark as possible. No lights, none, 432 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: no lights in your room, period, end of story. Make 433 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: it cold. Every study you'll read will tell you the 434 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: human body is meant to sleep better when it's cold. 435 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: There's a number of reason put a blanket, under weighted blankets. 436 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of studies that say waited blankets worth. 437 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't like a weighted blanket, but my wife does, 438 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of other people do. Get to bed 439 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: on time with the intention of going to sleep, free 440 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: your mind, maybe read a little bit, but set a 441 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: time that you're going to go to sleep, and lay there, 442 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: and even if you just lay there and can't fall asleep, 443 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: make it completely quiet or do your white noise. Some 444 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: people do that, and sit there and let your body 445 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: de escalate from the stress of the day. You don't 446 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: need to worry about Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi at 447 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: exactly that moment. You need to replenish. Drink water, Drink 448 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: more water, and when you're done, drink more water. After that, 449 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: get every ounce of sleep you can possibly get if 450 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: you don't have a comfortable mattress. Go see Mac. Mac 451 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: lives off the fact that people want to get better sleep, 452 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: and for good reason, because good sleep is critical your 453 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: good health. That's all I got on sleeping the moment, Oh, magnesium. 454 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: Magnesium allows me to sleep better than anything else. 455 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: Side. 456 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: If you compliment your friend or your friend's wife as 457 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: to them looking great. They've lost weight. What are you doing? 458 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: Are you working out? Are you intermittent fasting? You look fantastic. 459 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: Somebody who's been carrying an extra twenty or sixty pounds 460 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: for a very long time, all of a sudden has 461 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: a little spring in their step. And it's not just women. 462 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: Men carry themselves differently. When they've dropped down three, four 463 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: five sizes in their jeans, they start tucking their shirt in. 464 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, instead of tennis shoes with their genes, 465 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: they're wearing loafers, they're wearing dress shoes. They're all of 466 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: a sudden getting their hairstyled. It's a change in your 467 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: entire presentation. You can see the swagger in people. They've 468 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: been married for twenty five years and now all of 469 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, they're acting like they used to when they 470 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: wooed their lover. Well, ozimpic is often the answer. And 471 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: I can't pronounce the word. I'll get the pronunciation. It's semiglitudes. 472 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you pronounce it. But our expert. 473 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: We went searching for an expert, and some of you 474 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: will know we have talked about this subject before. We 475 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: have had other doctors on to talk about this, but 476 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: it is such a common phenomenon, cultural trend and a 477 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: medical issue, and you know, I'm fascinated by those that 478 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: we are having an expert on the matter with us today. 479 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: Her name is doctor Archin Nosadu. She is a Board 480 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: certified endocrinologist specializing in diabetes and she is the director 481 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: of the System Diabetes Program at Houston Methodist. She is 482 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: specifically with us to talk about that diabetes drug. It's 483 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: actually being used as a diet drug causing some problems 484 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: for diabetics who really need the drug. Doctor Sadou, First 485 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: of all, why are we hearing ozimpic all the time? 486 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: What is so special about this drug? 487 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: Well, thank you for having me here today, Michael. And yes, 488 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 4: it's all over the headlines and it seems to be 489 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: something new each time, but it actually it's been in 490 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: our toolbox for many years for type two diabetes, which 491 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: is what it was originally studied and approved for, because 492 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: it really lowered patient's blood sugars dramatically. But in those 493 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: studies it was also noted that they had a significant 494 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 4: weight loss. So then subsequently that drug semaglutide was studied 495 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: for just weight loss, so people without the diagnosis of 496 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 4: diabetes and again proved itself to be a great drug 497 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: to help people lose weight, and then it got FDA 498 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: approval for that indication. The drug is the same which 499 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: is semaglue hide, but for diabetes it's the brand name 500 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: is ozempic, and then for weightless alone it's called Wagovy. 501 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: So I think we're everyone's just kind of used to 502 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: the first name ozempic, but that's why we hear the 503 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 4: term ozempic all the time. But it could be either 504 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: ozempic or with goovy, which is the same drug. 505 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the differences between that and 506 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: why it's marketed separately because that's important for pharmaceutical REGs. 507 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: But first explain to me, like I'm in about seventh grade, 508 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: what exactly does ozempic or WEGOV do. 509 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 4: So. Ozempic or the drug semaglue hide is a replica 510 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: of a hormone and we have naturally in our gut system, 511 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: which is called GLP one, And this hormone is secreted 512 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: as soon as we eat something, and it has several duties. Naturally, 513 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: one it delays the emptying of the stomach, so food 514 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: comes in lower, slower and gets absorbed more efficiently with 515 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: balancing the glucose that's being absorbed so that our blood 516 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: sugars don't get too high. And two, it also raises 517 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 4: the pincreas's ability to secrete insulin, again balancing blood sugars, 518 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 4: which is where its first effect was most exciting. But 519 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: third effect, which was unexpected, was that it actually also 520 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: works on the appetite center in the brain to decrease appetite. 521 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: And this all makes sense, right, So whenever we eat, 522 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: we want to feel full, we want to balance the 523 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: nutrients we're absorbing, and then we want to stop eating, 524 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: so we just don't keep eating all the time. So 525 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: this drug is there for those purposes. And what we've 526 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: done is in this synthetic version semagluetide, and there's others 527 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: just like it as well. This is just one brand 528 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: we've We've given it in a subcutaneous injection form at 529 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: much much higher levels than what our gut normally secretes 530 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 4: to enhance these effects of decreased appetite and what you're lowering. 531 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: So that's that's how the drugs are working. 532 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Let's take those one by one. But before we do that, 533 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: you said Ozimpic and Wigov are just one brand? Are 534 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: there other products out there? It sounds like you're loyal 535 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: to or partial to ozimpic. There's Manjara or something like that. 536 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Are those all, as I understand it, they're all semi 537 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: glue tide semiglue tides. Are they all about the same? 538 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: Is there a reason you prefer ozimpic. 539 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 4: Well, it's not about preference. So a little bit about 540 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 4: the history. The first drug of the class was actually 541 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 4: a totally different drug called exenotide, but the brand name Baieta, 542 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 4: and that was the very first version of this whole class. Subsequently, 543 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 4: we got loraglatide or also called victosa or sexenda, and 544 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: then the most recent one a semiglutide or ozempic, and 545 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 4: regovi really got attention because these were weakly injectable, so 546 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 4: much easier to use, much more tolerable for patients, and 547 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 4: so they gained in popularity. Munjaro is a brand new player, 548 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 4: which is terzepetide. It's another compound entirely, and it is 549 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: one step above ozembic even because it combines two hormones 550 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 4: that are secreted in our gut, whereas previously it was 551 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: just the gop one that I mentioned to eppetiteer. Manjaro 552 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: also adds GIP and not to confuse you or the audience, 553 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: but we're actually building even more on these gut hormones 554 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: in upcoming drugs. So they're all very they're all different, 555 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: although do the same thing in our digestive tracks and 556 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: the brain to have the end outcome be eating less, 557 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 4: balancing your blood sugar and weight box. 558 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to hold you right there for 559 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: just a moment. We're talking to doctor Archinas Sadu spelled 560 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: sad Hu is the board certified into chronologists and hormones 561 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: and she specializes in debut He is the director of 562 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: the System Diabetes Program at Houston Methodist and we'll continue 563 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: our conversation with her coming up