Speaker 1: Stories don't know the answer to. Hey there, welcome to
Speaker 1: a very special episode of Thinking Sideways. Yes, it's Christmas,
Speaker 1: and so we're going to bring you a Christmas mystery.
Speaker 1: I'm Joe, joined as always by Devin and Steve, and
Speaker 1: so it's Christmas. We're going to jump right into it
Speaker 1: with a mystery that was suggested by our listeners. Sandy
Speaker 1: Claus Okay, not really, I'm lying. Okay, he's just trying
Speaker 1: to take the heat off himself. Yeah, now this was
Speaker 1: kind of self suggested. Yeah, I guess as every holiday
Speaker 1: story is, it is internally sourced. Okay, all right. Uh
Speaker 1: And as always, little ears warning and all that stuff
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna hear graphic talk is scary things and
Speaker 1: so yeah, if you're scared of that stuff, then you
Speaker 1: know we're not going to ruin Christmas. Yeah maybe. Alright,
Speaker 1: So for this year, we're gonna talk about the mystery
Speaker 1: of the Bumble, also known as the Abominable Snowman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know about this guy from Rudolph
Speaker 1: the Red Nose Reindeer. We talked about that before the
Speaker 1: special that's been on forever, I mean for like the
Speaker 1: last fifty years. I think something like that, actually more
Speaker 1: than fifty years three. Yes, yeah, yeah, I actually I've
Speaker 1: been told that was not claymation. It was some sort
Speaker 1: of cloth animation thing, stop motion animation. It just stop
Speaker 1: motion animation. But apparently it wasn't It wasn't clay. It
Speaker 1: was something other than some other medium, I don't know,
Speaker 1: some kind of fuzzy material. Well, well, do an episode
Speaker 1: about that next year. What did they use the world's
Speaker 1: shortest episode? Yeah, exactly. And the box it was all
Speaker 1: kept in has vanished. I mean, so what are they hiding?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, okay, but back to the bumble? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: we each have our our own theory about about the bumble?
Speaker 1: Uh you know, was he real? Where did you come from?
Speaker 1: That kind of thing? We're gonna talk about those, um
Speaker 1: and of course, naturally there's some disagreements here, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to like all present our sides and then
Speaker 1: we'll hash it all off the end of side. Who's
Speaker 1: right and who's wrong? Yeah, Joe's never wrong. Alright, here
Speaker 1: we go. So let me jump in with my ideas here,
Speaker 1: well not ideas, actually this is well documented, so my
Speaker 1: my documented history of the bubble. Uh well, Okay, leading off,
Speaker 1: you know, big big picture. First, almost every human society
Speaker 1: on the planet has a legend about some kind of
Speaker 1: huge hair man like creature that lives way out of
Speaker 1: the sticks named Steve. Yeah. Yeah, listen, it's a beard.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make me a giant monster. Actually, if not
Speaker 1: Harry all over, but I'm not gonna ask you to
Speaker 1: take your shirt off, keep it on. But if your
Speaker 1: Hairry all over, then yeah, you're one of these guys. Uh. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: but they are these these these things live in the sticks.
Speaker 1: No one ever sees them because well, the people that
Speaker 1: do get killed right away. Uh. And they've had they've
Speaker 1: had their different names, like the American Indians had the Sasquatch,
Speaker 1: which you guys have heard of, and the him Aliens
Speaker 1: had the Yettie. White people had the Hookies from Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Uh and true. Yeah, and as you know, the hookies
Speaker 1: were eventually civilized and allowed to have guns, some of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and of course, as you know, the Wookies had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the Sasquatch or the Yettie. No
Speaker 1: interbreeding there, no, no, not at all. They're not based
Speaker 1: on that. The wookie Lei legend is actually based on
Speaker 1: the Cookie Monster from Sesame Street. But where does the
Speaker 1: cookie monster legend come from? Doesn't come from the Eddie.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I know it doesn't. So okay,
Speaker 1: well we go back. We're gonna we're gonna take this
Speaker 1: all apart so you can all understand how it works.
Speaker 1: But even though everybody seems to think they are the
Speaker 1: same thing, there's actually no relationship between the Abominable Snowman
Speaker 1: and the Eddie, which I know everybody thinks they're the
Speaker 1: same thing. But actually, uh, if you don't believe me,
Speaker 1: go to Nepal. Ask anyone on the street if they've
Speaker 1: heard of the Abominable Snowman, and you will not hear
Speaker 1: a single Yes, they have not heard of this guy.
Speaker 1: All right, so we'll talk about that later. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: did the Abominable Snowman legend come from? This may be
Speaker 1: hard to accept, but somebody made it up. I know.
Speaker 1: I can hear your heads exploding. But stay with me
Speaker 1: for a minute. We're gonna unravel this. It all goes
Speaker 1: back to nine three, the year before Rudolph came out,
Speaker 1: and uh, it was a bad year. All kinds of
Speaker 1: bad things happened. Student Baker car company went out of business.
Speaker 1: The USS Thresher nuclear submarine was lost at sea with
Speaker 1: all hands and nobody still knows why exact For sure,
Speaker 1: the Pope died, Johnny Depp was born, ZIP codes were
Speaker 1: introduced when we're still dealing with that, right, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: most famously of all, nineteen sixty three is known as
Speaker 1: the year that the lava lamp was invented. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: lava lamp. Yeah, from the northeast. I didn't need yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah. I was actually kind of surprised because in
Speaker 1: researching destroy I did a survey of momentius things that
Speaker 1: happened in nineteen sixty three, and yeah, that was one
Speaker 1: of them. I had no idea. I thought the lava
Speaker 1: lamp was like later. But I cannot with your pronunciation
Speaker 1: of that word, but it you know, of course, I
Speaker 1: live on the West coast, you know, so maybe it
Speaker 1: started on the East coast and sort of spread westwards
Speaker 1: some of the time. I you know, I found one
Speaker 1: in my home. That was a lot later than that.
Speaker 1: You went into the lavatory and found the lava lamp. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the lava lamp was I don't know. My parents got
Speaker 1: sooner or later somebody gave it to him. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that nobody ever seems to buy.
Speaker 1: People always give. I mean, you have a Lava Lampton show,
Speaker 1: I have a giant one. Yeah, and didn't somebody give
Speaker 1: that to Yeah? I know exactly where it came from. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: but nobody ever buys them themselves, or at least admits
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah. Anyway, the year it was a rough
Speaker 1: year for America, and so the exact that the CBS
Speaker 1: TV News network decided the country needed a little bucking
Speaker 1: up right, and they sided the American people needed a
Speaker 1: hero to rally around and to rally their spirits. So
Speaker 1: they tasked their writers with creating this hero, and the
Speaker 1: writers basically took a week reindeer with poor social skills
Speaker 1: and a criminal record and tried to turn them into
Speaker 1: Rambo for an animated special for the following Christmas season,
Speaker 1: you guys, And that's how that's where we all came from.
Speaker 1: We've already talked about the special and the disparity between
Speaker 1: fictional Routolf and the real Rutolf, and they took some liberties,
Speaker 1: as we all know. They started putting this special together,
Speaker 1: and of course they totally remade route Doll's character, made
Speaker 1: him a lot better than he actually was. But they
Speaker 1: left out one important thing, which is Jeopardy, right, you
Speaker 1: got the game show exactly, I know, I know, no
Speaker 1: peril danger. Oh I thought it was. That's here every
Speaker 1: time you talk. Okay, I'll take left lame mythical creatures
Speaker 1: for a hundred um. But we're talking about there's always
Speaker 1: gotta be a hitch. Just's gotta be some sort of thing,
Speaker 1: you know, like the melting down nuclear reactor or more
Speaker 1: likely the super villain. And so this is this is
Speaker 1: a person who always makes it looks like the entire
Speaker 1: enterprise may may just fall apart in our heroes. Who knows,
Speaker 1: might even die like the Postman from all of the
Speaker 1: other Reindeer. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Bob, I like it.
Speaker 1: Great name. That's not his name, that's what he says.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, clearly you've never seen it. I have
Speaker 1: not seen it. But it's a great name. But uh
Speaker 1: so they had to come up with something, and they
Speaker 1: had to create a charifying villain who looked like he
Speaker 1: was going to destroy the whole thing. But the problem
Speaker 1: is is it's set in Christmas Town, which doesn't have
Speaker 1: any real psycho criminals. I mean, and other than you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, Rudolph was actually the biggest criminal in Christmas
Speaker 1: Town history. But and sure, the other reindeer they were
Speaker 1: kind of jerks to to Rudolph, that's absolutely true. But
Speaker 1: that's a long way from being a Bond supervillain or
Speaker 1: a dark lord or something. Right, so they could make
Speaker 1: up something like a twisted serial killer Elf, the one
Speaker 1: on the shelf, Yeah, Santa's evil twin, or maybe this
Speaker 1: is scary as hell, Santa's ex fiance showing up and
Speaker 1: murdering Mrs Claus and and then wiring all the toy
Speaker 1: factors with cbore and taking the els hostage. This is Christmas,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Well? Yeah, And so obviously none
Speaker 1: of these really went over well with the networks. They
Speaker 1: did treat with some a few things, like the extnance.
Speaker 1: A plot had Rudolph armed with only a service automatic
Speaker 1: and fifteen rounds of AMMO, crawling around air ducks and
Speaker 1: Elvin nick Neck complex their Team four in the Psycho
Speaker 1: exit saving Christmas, although there was a lot of eleven
Speaker 1: collateral damage and it's just not appropriate. No, that's that's
Speaker 1: how the Network felt about that. They really hated the
Speaker 1: whole idea, you know, especially the idea of a reindeer
Speaker 1: shooting and blowing up Christmas Town. So they just said,
Speaker 1: come on to use an animal or something to how
Speaker 1: about wolves and but of course wolves won't do because
Speaker 1: wolves live down around the Arctic Circle and below right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well how about polar bears and so no, polar bears
Speaker 1: don't live you know, they live in the periphery of
Speaker 1: the Arctic. True, they don't actually live at the North Pole.
Speaker 1: Ain't no polar bears up there, despite the name, which
Speaker 1: is very misleading. That's very true. Polar bears would live
Speaker 1: at the pole. But no they don't. They sure as
Speaker 1: hell don't. Why would anybody live at the pole. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. There's nothing to eat up there. Reindeers yeah,
Speaker 1: and and candy, yeah, and candy. And you know, ye
Speaker 1: elves are tasty. Elves are like behind the wall though
Speaker 1: well they have yeah, now we'll get into that some
Speaker 1: future one style wall. Yeah thing uh. And so they
Speaker 1: decided they needed to make something up the problem of courses.
Speaker 1: Are people gonna believe that there's some huge, scary, demonic
Speaker 1: creature living on the ice at the North Pole with
Speaker 1: no visible means of support, a little bit of a stretch. Right,
Speaker 1: this is a creature that lives right here, and mother,
Speaker 1: nobody's ever seen it or heard it before. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous. Nobody's seen the cracking, at least not
Speaker 1: that I know of, but at least we've all heard
Speaker 1: of it before, right, Yeah, And and it lives in
Speaker 1: a place that credibly could support life, not which is
Speaker 1: not the North Pole. And the writers came up with
Speaker 1: a solution, which is, we'll just pretend like this badass
Speaker 1: creature has always existed, even though nobody ever actually heard
Speaker 1: of it until five minutes ago. We'll claim it's a
Speaker 1: nation legend from a tiny country like halfway around the
Speaker 1: world that no one's ever heard of. And thus they
Speaker 1: created this foil for Rudolph, and the abominable Snowman legend
Speaker 1: was born. Yeah, or the Bumble, based of course on
Speaker 1: the humanly and yetti, but really total b Yes, it
Speaker 1: was not at all related to her, based on the yetting,
Speaker 1: but they pretended that it was. And by pretending that
Speaker 1: it was based on this ancient crypto from halfway around
Speaker 1: the world, CBS was insulated from charges of lameness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the worst charge anybody could ever levy against a network blameness. Yes,
Speaker 1: And the story gets bigger. The US government became aware
Speaker 1: of this project, mostly because the FBI was bugging all
Speaker 1: the major networks because they kicked out of listening in
Speaker 1: and all the sexual harassment that was going on. And
Speaker 1: never coincidentally, they only the government that is, had only
Speaker 1: recently gotten winto the fact that the human historical record
Speaker 1: had been falsified and that the twentieth century was actually
Speaker 1: the seventeenth century. This is a thing that you guys
Speaker 1: may be aware of. You heard of the phantom time hypothesis,
Speaker 1: which is a real thing. Uh, somebody away back when
Speaker 1: like a pope, the Holy Roman Emperor some other people
Speaker 1: conspired centuries ago to basically fake three centuries of history
Speaker 1: and plug it into the record. And the U. S Government,
Speaker 1: having found this out, was wondering how to undo this
Speaker 1: fraud without totally messing with everybody's heads. Right, And you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, this is not made up. This is
Speaker 1: for real, it's on the internet, it's real. Three centuries
Speaker 1: of human history just made up, wasn't it? Because like
Speaker 1: the emperor wanted to. He was really it was important
Speaker 1: to him that he'd be ruling over like a certain century.
Speaker 1: You wanted to be like Anno Domingo one thousand, you know,
Speaker 1: and not like like seven hundred, which is not nearly
Speaker 1: as cool as one. So he was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: throw it on. There's why all of the best devices
Speaker 1: are the one thousand model. Oh you've got the iPhone
Speaker 1: five hundred. I've got the iPhone one thousand. Sounds such
Speaker 1: so much better. Cannot wait. It's also why they skipped
Speaker 1: over it's you know, the iPhone XE, the iPhone X
Speaker 1: which means tenn like because nobody cares. They just always
Speaker 1: wanted to use a single character one of the two anyway, Sorry,
Speaker 1: just to uh well, as so as you know, the
Speaker 1: government found out about about the Abominable Snowman fraud, they
Speaker 1: took a lot of interest in that, and they actually
Speaker 1: provided some funding and technical expertise to the project. And
Speaker 1: after Rudolph aired in like late nineteen sixty four, the
Speaker 1: government spent millions doing polling and research which confirmed the
Speaker 1: public had completely bought into all the entire Abominable snow nbs.
Speaker 1: They totally believed that this there was this creature based
Speaker 1: on them and getting and that everybody had always known
Speaker 1: about this, even though, like I said, nobody knew about
Speaker 1: it until five minutes ago. Hold out manly in the
Speaker 1: university faculties. These guys were spirited away to re education
Speaker 1: camps and quietly replaced with nineteen sixties radical students. He
Speaker 1: really loves re education camps. He's only threatened them to
Speaker 1: send us to. Yes, he really is. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say that I think that everybody bought it because
Speaker 1: it was one of those things where you know, like
Speaker 1: when you go see an art exhibit and you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't it's dumb, like, and everyone's like it's genius,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, and you're like, oh, yeah, it's genius. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: But it turns out everybody's saying it's genius because they
Speaker 1: just don't get it and they don't want to look dumb.
Speaker 1: That's why the entire population was like, yeah, of course
Speaker 1: they bump because they were like, I must be the
Speaker 1: only person in this entire place that doesn't know what
Speaker 1: bumble is, so that, of course it is kind of
Speaker 1: human nature to do. Yeah, nobody wants to be not
Speaker 1: in with the in crowd, right, it's absolutely true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh huh. And that's why, by the way, if you
Speaker 1: want to be with the in crowd, you would listen
Speaker 1: to Thinking Sideways. Yeah yeah, and tell all your friends too.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you don't want to be a dork. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody doing it? Okay, but so much for commercials. Back
Speaker 1: to this, back to Rudolph and and the Bumble the bumble.
Speaker 1: So the rest is history. Everybody believes this bs and
Speaker 1: that the few people who don't believe it, while they
Speaker 1: refraid from saying so because they don't want to be
Speaker 1: called anti Christmas. Nobody wants to be anti Christmas. And
Speaker 1: of course, as we all know, the Abominable Snowman legend
Speaker 1: eventually would give rise to the Cookie Monster myth, and
Speaker 1: then later on to the Wookie legend, which leases the
Speaker 1: Star Wars, and of course the government operation Operate and
Speaker 1: white that was born. I think White That wasn't better
Speaker 1: about the same time. Yeah, it's about correcting and correcting
Speaker 1: that typewritten history. I guess. So White Out makes sense,
Speaker 1: But the government has undertaken it's still going on as
Speaker 1: far as I know to this day. It's a gradual
Speaker 1: rewriting of history based about a year at a time.
Speaker 1: It has gotten a bit bogged down in memo writing
Speaker 1: and beer credit and fighting, but apparently it's still it's
Speaker 1: still going on. If you call the FBI and ask
Speaker 1: them about it, of course they'll pretend not to know anything.
Speaker 1: Be persistent, keep calling back, you know, yeah, eventually they'll
Speaker 1: give you. You know, you know you're getting through when
Speaker 1: they come to your house. That's how you know you're
Speaker 1: getting there. Totally. Yeah, Bob barred them with FOIA requests
Speaker 1: to But but the success of the the government project
Speaker 1: could be measured, at least in part by the fact
Speaker 1: that reality does seem to have become kind of an
Speaker 1: optional idea for quite a few people. But historically speaking,
Speaker 1: the ratifications are without Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten this operational white out leading to the
Speaker 1: correction of human history. And we wouldn't have got all
Speaker 1: those cool university professors with cool new ideas. And we
Speaker 1: also wouldn't have gotten Star Wars. Or maybe we would
Speaker 1: have gotten it without a Wookie, maybe a talking raccoon instead. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's absurd, but you know, really
Speaker 1: it actually makes a little more sense than a huge, hairy,
Speaker 1: demonic creature living at the North Pole. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: that's what I think. So that's what it is. Is.
Speaker 1: Not only does it not, the Abominable Snowman never exists.
Speaker 1: He was never even actually a legend. Believe it or not,
Speaker 1: he was. It was a basically a legend created out
Speaker 1: of whole cloth. Yeah. Well, I will say that you
Speaker 1: are correct in that last statement, but I think the
Speaker 1: rest of that is just total hockey horse hockey, to
Speaker 1: be specific, hockey horse hockey was horse hockey hockey like
Speaker 1: horse grenades, horse apples. I don't know, you're making stuff up. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do what Joe did. Make stuff up. Okay,
Speaker 1: I made nothing up up. No, listen, The truth of
Speaker 1: the matter is is that the story of the Bumble,
Speaker 1: and based on the research I've done, the entire thing
Speaker 1: is actually an allegory for the Daniard for the dangers
Speaker 1: of unionization, and it was all created by Robert F. Kennedy. Okay,
Speaker 1: conveniently he plays he blames somebody who's dead whose brain
Speaker 1: went missing. Run Kennedy. Listen here, let me let me
Speaker 1: break this down for you. Okay, So, as you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked about that cute nine Rudolf the Red Nose
Speaker 1: Reindeer movie, but it is truly about the dangers of unionization,
Speaker 1: and honestly, the Bumble, the poor Bumble, is really just
Speaker 1: a scapegoat that's creators used to spread their message. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's the truth about the Bumble is actually really simple
Speaker 1: and really sad, and like I said, he was the
Speaker 1: target of a Kennedy And here's why. Because the story
Speaker 1: from the outside, Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, it seemed
Speaker 1: cute and it's hit about him leaving home and growing
Speaker 1: up and then returning one day to try and help everybody.
Speaker 1: But if you ever watch the characters and you really
Speaker 1: listen to some of the other characters, you'll pick up
Speaker 1: on what's going on. So let's start with one of
Speaker 1: the side characters. That's the other characters, Hermie, the Elf,
Speaker 1: the best Elf. When we first meet Hermie, he's he's
Speaker 1: working away like all the other else, but he's dissatisfied
Speaker 1: with his job and he wants to do something different. Specifically,
Speaker 1: he wants to be a dentist. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: he tells the elf Foreman and of course the foreman
Speaker 1: tells him that you can't do that, So to retaliate,
Speaker 1: he skips choir practice. He did, he did. He skips
Speaker 1: Elvin choir practice, which throws off the entire tune so
Speaker 1: much so that Santa walks out of the room in disgust.
Speaker 1: And instead, what is Hermie doing. He's quote unquote practicing
Speaker 1: dentis street. He's practicing on a doll. Animal like any
Speaker 1: other serial killer. He's practicing on a doll. But his
Speaker 1: form of dentistry involves using a hammer on a poor
Speaker 1: doll's teeth, which is actually really kind of barbaric talking
Speaker 1: about he's really cheap though. He also work in a
Speaker 1: back alley. Here works in a trailer, not a back alley.
Speaker 1: Is the trailer parked in alley? Okay, um, let's see
Speaker 1: what els okay. So then there's the first encounter between
Speaker 1: Hermie and Rudolph. Hermie of course, Deil's Rudolph that he's
Speaker 1: a dentist and that he's an independent dentist, which is
Speaker 1: not true. He's actually an employee of Santa. He works
Speaker 1: like all the other Elves, So he's there's already some
Speaker 1: fibbing going on. People that are actors that l a
Speaker 1: that are active, but they're waiting tables something like that,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he's he's happily part of an
Speaker 1: unorganized workforce that is all very very happy in being
Speaker 1: so um right, yeah, exactly. At this point, you know,
Speaker 1: after this initial meeting, Hermie convinces Rudolph that they have
Speaker 1: to leave the safety of Christmas Town a k a.
Speaker 1: Leaving the safety of their secure employment, and they go
Speaker 1: out into the wide world. And this is where the
Speaker 1: writers begin their creative slander, because this is when they
Speaker 1: first meet the Bumble, and he chases and threatens them,
Speaker 1: and they barely get away if we keep going on
Speaker 1: in the story though. They then the next day, Hermie
Speaker 1: and Rudolph meet Yukon Cornelius, and Cornelius says, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: the greatest prospector in the North, which prospector makes me
Speaker 1: think maybe that's a euphemism for a job title in
Speaker 1: the unions. Maybe I think he was a drug pusher
Speaker 1: or something. But he's of gold. Well, that's the thing
Speaker 1: that he's obsessed with, finding gold and silver, which is
Speaker 1: really convenient for him to have met Hermie, a guy
Speaker 1: who wants to be a dentist and dentist used gold
Speaker 1: and silver when they work on teeth a lot, so
Speaker 1: that's a funny coincidence to me. But at this point
Speaker 1: again there of course chased by the Bumble and they
Speaker 1: barely escape. Again here you see see what's going on here.
Speaker 1: They're making the Bumble out to be the big, bad,
Speaker 1: scary monster. Maybe really wasn't just misunderstood. So at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, then the story goes on. Rudolf runs away
Speaker 1: and then they come back and they go to help
Speaker 1: Cornelius and Hermie show up just in time to help
Speaker 1: Root off with a little stuff offer by the way
Speaker 1: at the right. So yeah, I'm just I'm moving this
Speaker 1: forward rather than telling the whole story of the movie
Speaker 1: because these are the important deed als. Is that during
Speaker 1: the confrontation when Cornelius and Hermie save everybody, Hermie, after
Speaker 1: the Bumble has been knocked out, pulls all of his
Speaker 1: teeth out of his head. He's taking the teeth out
Speaker 1: of the bumble. And have you ever heard that phrase
Speaker 1: taking the teeth out of something? You're making it harmless. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's where everything comes out and who these characters
Speaker 1: really represent. So we've got Hermie and Rudolph, and they
Speaker 1: are just your average everyday American worker who are happily
Speaker 1: going to their job and their employers happily protecting them
Speaker 1: without anybody else's intervention. We've got yukon Cornelius. He's not
Speaker 1: actually a traditional prospector, but like I said, he's more
Speaker 1: of a union organizer. And then, well, who did who
Speaker 1: did Cornelius work for? Well, if you watch the movie,
Speaker 1: Cornelius knows an awful lot about the Bumble, and that's
Speaker 1: because in reality they worked together, they were on the
Speaker 1: same team. So have you have you put it together yet?
Speaker 1: Do you know who these characters are all representing? Have
Speaker 1: you have you figured out who the Bumble is yet? No?
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hoffa, here's the deal. Jimmy Hoffa in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: four was convicted for jury tampering and four years Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy had been after him to send Haffa to jail.
Speaker 1: He hated Haffa. So this whole story is Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy's victory. He wanted to document this, but he obviously
Speaker 1: couldn't just do it straight. He had to, you know,
Speaker 1: put it inside of a child friendly movie. And this
Speaker 1: conviction would pull the teeth out of Haffa, who was
Speaker 1: in control of the Teamsters union. You following so far, Yeah,
Speaker 1: now get this. You know, Kennedy went one step further
Speaker 1: and he actually inserted himself into the movie as the
Speaker 1: character Sam the Snowman, because he's telling all of everything
Speaker 1: that's going on. But here's one funny thing that Sam
Speaker 1: does is that at the you know that, just at
Speaker 1: that culmination of the big confrontation between everybody in the bumble,
Speaker 1: he says, and I sent Cornelius and Hermie over there,
Speaker 1: something to that effect. Now, wait, why why would why
Speaker 1: would he be involved unless he was orchestrating it, much
Speaker 1: like Kennedy was trying to orchestrate politics and the court
Speaker 1: system at the time. So what I'm telling you here
Speaker 1: is this is all a Muys propaganda. Yes it is.
Speaker 1: That's the word, thank you. It's propaganda. The whole thing
Speaker 1: is propaganda on the part of Kennedy because he hated
Speaker 1: hated off of so much. And nobody has figured this out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I founded by piece and a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff together. Makes what actually does this sort of like
Speaker 1: I think lent a little credence to this, is that
Speaker 1: one of one of rfk's biggest regrets is that he
Speaker 1: could not play the guitar and sing. And you noticed
Speaker 1: that he created a character that could, you know, because
Speaker 1: that was his secret dream. He didn't want to actually
Speaker 1: be attorney general. Yeah, he actually wanted to be a
Speaker 1: folk singer. He wanted to be like, you know, like
Speaker 1: Django of the pan flute. So at Roger Whittaker that
Speaker 1: that was his dream, you know. Insteady was sucked with
Speaker 1: this crappy lawyer job and washing exactly, so he had
Speaker 1: to do something. He had to take that anger out
Speaker 1: on somebody either stretching stretching, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to be the party pooper here, but are you
Speaker 1: going to be as sheeple and not see the truth?
Speaker 1: This this this frost covered truth. I'm just I just
Speaker 1: know that Bumble is real, real Bumble is real, but
Speaker 1: he's actually just a bear. Yeah yeah, So like let's
Speaker 1: just we'll just hear this out. And I am really
Speaker 1: sorry to be the party pooper here. I came up
Speaker 1: with this theory after observing the documentary Ski Free about
Speaker 1: skiers on alpine hills competing to finish full runs of
Speaker 1: either Free Skiing slalom or tree slalom and um often
Speaker 1: after the most successful documented run what was later identified
Speaker 1: as a Yeti a k a. The Abominable Snowman, which
Speaker 1: we will talk about in a second. Was they're chasing
Speaker 1: the skiers. So that's the reason that they were skiing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that they were competing, it's because they were
Speaker 1: fleeing for their lives. No, they were skiing, that they
Speaker 1: were competing, but just having to pop out of the
Speaker 1: brush and go after them for a bit. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: just got me thinking, we have documents. It's not important
Speaker 1: snowy mountains all around the world. Uh. And this got
Speaker 1: me thinking that we do have documented proof of a
Speaker 1: Yeti chasing a skier. This this documentary. What else do
Speaker 1: we have that chases skiers? And we have proof of that.
Speaker 1: Bears beats Battlestar Electica uh her speed sets collecting. This
Speaker 1: is not to be confused with a video that surfaced
Speaker 1: I think last year called snowboard or Girl Chased by Bear,
Speaker 1: where a girl filming herself with a selfie stick while
Speaker 1: snowboarding down the hill listening to Rihanna through really big headphones,
Speaker 1: which that seems like a bad idea. Being with the
Speaker 1: giant headphones. Wearing giant headphones and walking around in them
Speaker 1: is really a bad idea anywhere, even your own office,
Speaker 1: You're likely to get clobbered by h wall. Plus it
Speaker 1: looks kind of stupid, and well, no, you look like
Speaker 1: a cyberman, so that's kind of did you wind up
Speaker 1: with the with a selfie stick like rammed down her throat?
Speaker 1: But she spilming herself with a selfie sticks snowboarding down
Speaker 1: the hill, um, and she like pans around and you
Speaker 1: can see there's a bear chasing her. This was proven
Speaker 1: to be a hoax, however, and if you need proof
Speaker 1: just google it. I do not have time to cover
Speaker 1: it right now. This is too important. I just love
Speaker 1: the idea that if it had been real, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a bear. Screw you bear. I think you don't think,
Speaker 1: you know? With the selfie stick like oftentimes, she wasn't
Speaker 1: like looking. She was going down the hill, so she
Speaker 1: panned around and you see the bear kind of behind her,
Speaker 1: and then it doesn't matter anyway, it's a um. What
Speaker 1: I do know is there's real, verified tales of bears
Speaker 1: chasing people who are skiing on one such cautionary tale
Speaker 1: can be found in none other than the national geographic
Speaker 1: magazine This is Real, and this particular issue it covers
Speaker 1: the story of a guy named Matt mole Star. Now,
Speaker 1: Matt is a season skier and he was skiing in
Speaker 1: Glacier National Monument when he was attacked by two giant
Speaker 1: grizzly bears. One was an almost full sized cub and
Speaker 1: his mom was the other bear, and Matt described her
Speaker 1: as freight train sized. Actual war In that position, they
Speaker 1: probably look extra huge, and I think so, yeah, I
Speaker 1: bet they do. Anything that comes at me like that
Speaker 1: with their arms in the air is always looks giants
Speaker 1: of a building. Ye yeah, yeah. So he and his
Speaker 1: friends seemed to have gotten away by sheer luck alone,
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of other harrowing tales of
Speaker 1: people who have been chased by bears while skiing, like
Speaker 1: that movie with Layonardo DiCaprio. Um, well he was, he
Speaker 1: was skiing, Well, he was skiing, but without the skis
Speaker 1: there really wasn't any snow on the ground at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but still, yeah he got the bear treatment.
Speaker 1: He did. He did us. So there are a lot
Speaker 1: more cases of people being chased by yettis however, but
Speaker 1: what if somebody had managed to get some hair from Yetti?
Speaker 1: Would that change anything? Do you think? Actually? That would
Speaker 1: probably advance the cause of the scientific knowledge. Would be
Speaker 1: exciting about that? Yeah, I think it would. And lucky
Speaker 1: for us people do have hair or better, yet, other
Speaker 1: remains of these yetis from Yeti's back way back in
Speaker 1: the day, right and there They've been around for hundreds
Speaker 1: of years in some cases some of them, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: some of them have been collected more recently by teams
Speaker 1: out doing documentaries on skiers who were being attacked or
Speaker 1: other possible sightings of Yeti's not yet what Yeah, Yetti again? Um?
Speaker 1: So these remains um. Some of them had been hidden
Speaker 1: in monasteries or held by shaman's um but finally shamans okay, yeah, um.
Speaker 1: We were able to test them. Me, I did the
Speaker 1: testing me, but an evolutionary biologist at the state uh
Speaker 1: State University of New York and Buffalo did test them.
Speaker 1: And guess what she found. She tested nine of these
Speaker 1: samples and they all were hair. Eight of them were
Speaker 1: from bears native to the area, and one was a dog.
Speaker 1: Huh where was she based out of? She's out of Buffalo,
Speaker 1: but they were bears native to the areas where the
Speaker 1: remains were okay, buffalo and that double check. They set
Speaker 1: the samples onto the FBI haired lab and they they
Speaker 1: lost them. Now they positively correlated them to take Kazinski. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Now we think of um, I'm sorry, the bears were
Speaker 1: Himalayan brown bears. What we think of traditional bumble as
Speaker 1: being white. Um, But apparently in the traditional Himalayan lore,
Speaker 1: which is the actual lore where bumble came from, he's
Speaker 1: covered in shaggy reddish brown or gray fur and ways
Speaker 1: about two hundred four hundred pounds, which is for you
Speaker 1: uneducated swine, and accounts make it anywhere from five to
Speaker 1: nine ft tall. Does that sound familiar the bumble train size. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a short bumble five foot Yeah, that's a baby bumble,
Speaker 1: Like a baby bumble is a pet. I don't think
Speaker 1: he would. That's just big enough for me to get scared. Probably, well,
Speaker 1: I just want to five foot bud just stayed at
Speaker 1: five foot, yeah, pretty much, to be fair, especially when
Speaker 1: the five foot is actually two hundred pounds. Yeah, to
Speaker 1: be fair. There, this is a different conclusion than um.
Speaker 1: Primary researchers came to Um. The first researcher was named
Speaker 1: Charlotte Lindquest, but she was and she was the one
Speaker 1: that said that it was Emily and brown bear. And
Speaker 1: an earlier researcher, I don't know, is old an old
Speaker 1: dog hundreds of years old. An earlier researcher named Brian
Speaker 1: Sykes came to a different conclusion, and his was based
Speaker 1: on a jawbone. I don't know where the jaw bone
Speaker 1: came from, presumably the shaman or something like, I know
Speaker 1: where it came from, a jaw of a bumble. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: But he found a hundred percent match with a sample
Speaker 1: from an ancient polar bear jaw bone that was found
Speaker 1: in Norway that dates back some forty thousand to a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand years ago, a time when polar
Speaker 1: bears closely related to brown bears were interbreeding a lot.
Speaker 1: But they were kind of at that point, they were
Speaker 1: kind of separating out a bit too. They were separating out,
Speaker 1: but if they had common areas that they were territories,
Speaker 1: they were, Yeah, they were interbreeding. Now when we think
Speaker 1: about it, Um, the name is actually the best proof
Speaker 1: in nineteen and this is my proof to cement the
Speaker 1: fact that yetti and bumble and the abominable soul man
Speaker 1: excuse me, use the technical term here, or actually the
Speaker 1: same thing, and yetis are actually bears ready? In UH
Speaker 1: nineteen one, and Indian English language newspaper interviewed some explorers
Speaker 1: that were UM returning from UH Mount Everest expedition that
Speaker 1: was it was the British Mount Everest Reconnaissance Expedition UM
Speaker 1: and they were one of the first people to report
Speaker 1: these big footprints in the snow, and their guide, who
Speaker 1: was a native to the Himalayan area, had attributed them
Speaker 1: to the mito kang bi kang kang me excuse me,
Speaker 1: kng me translates to snowman and mito to bear man
Speaker 1: or man bear. The writer of this piece got about
Speaker 1: half of that translation but misinterpreted uh mito which is
Speaker 1: man bear too filthy? Oh, I thought that was gonna
Speaker 1: be carrot knows no, So instead of writing filthy snowman,
Speaker 1: he was like, Oh, I'm going to write the abominable snowman,
Speaker 1: filthy snowman. What about frosty snowman and filthy and frosty
Speaker 1: sound a lot closer, Yeah, fosh frosts. So they actually
Speaker 1: have a Frosty the snowman legend in the Himalayas. No,
Speaker 1: they have a man bear snowman legend, which is just
Speaker 1: like a white bear that's big, really really raunchy jokes.
Speaker 1: But you know, filthy is a misinterpretation. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: so at the abominable snowman, as I said, never existed
Speaker 1: in Nepaul. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, except for it was
Speaker 1: the eddy. It was just a misinterpretation of man bear
Speaker 1: of man bear, man bey, Oh, man man bear, man
Speaker 1: bear snowman. No, man man bear. Yeah that rolls right
Speaker 1: off the yea, sure it does. But basically the name
Speaker 1: is like, hey, it's a big bear, that's white bear. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I still and as I said, we talked some
Speaker 1: about this in previous episodes about I had never totally
Speaker 1: totally discounted the possibilities some of these native storytellers have
Speaker 1: actually had a little fun at the white Man's expanse
Speaker 1: from time to time. You know, maybe they want out
Speaker 1: ahead of time and made some huge footprints of the
Speaker 1: snow just to mess with their heads, and then they
Speaker 1: kept across Oh yeah, that abominable snowman dude. Except for
Speaker 1: they were actually just saying that yetti guy, and the
Speaker 1: yetti we have proven, we have solid evidence, is actually
Speaker 1: just a bear. So I'm sorry, but Bumble is just
Speaker 1: a bear. Bumble Bear, It's just a bear who tells
Speaker 1: really bad jokes. Yeah, it's filthy, you're the one. I
Speaker 1: haven't said a filthy thing yet today. If you want,
Speaker 1: I can start right. Oh wait, no, it would be filthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that doesn't quite, that doesn't totally contradict my thesis,
Speaker 1: which is that the Bumble and the Yeddie maybe excuse
Speaker 1: me who the Himallean brown bear and the Yettie may
Speaker 1: very well be the same thing. They are. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the whole and by the way, the Himilean brown bear
Speaker 1: they're very cute. They're fuzzy, they are they're really shaggy,
Speaker 1: Yeah they are, but the whole. The origin of the
Speaker 1: Abominable Snowman can be traced to this one as a
Speaker 1: name can be traced to this one article, from which
Speaker 1: means that it's just all. This is where you're wrong.
Speaker 1: Is that CBS and the US government we're way ahead
Speaker 1: of you there. I mean, they went back and back
Speaker 1: dated the text. This I'm telling you, this is this
Speaker 1: is all a Kennedy concoction. It's all blamed on the Kennedy.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to have to agree to disagree.
Speaker 1: It's always the Kennedy's. Alright, well, it'd been the Christmas
Speaker 1: season at all. I can tell what this is heading.
Speaker 1: We're all going to like just basically going to become
Speaker 1: a fist fight. So we just have to agree to disagree.
Speaker 1: You mean a normal family Christmas where we get drunk
Speaker 1: and brawl. Yeah, that's a normal Christmas for everybody's pulling
Speaker 1: out a switch blade and I'm tired of getting carved up, frankly,
Speaker 1: So we are everybody exactly cut a little bit short,
Speaker 1: and I want to lead all of our listeners with
Speaker 1: something special, which is, um, I'm gonna grab my guitar
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sing you a song, a road live
Speaker 1: song from the Special Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeers. So
Speaker 1: you guys ready, yeah, yeah, let me let me just
Speaker 1: hit record real quick. Okay, here we go