1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: M m hm. This is welcome back to Good Mom's 2 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Bad Choices. I'm Erica and I'm Mila. Happy Wednesday, Bitches 3 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: had hoes, bitches a house, bitches and nose and everything 4 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: in between. 5 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Happy hump Day. How are you feeling? I feel good. 6 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: It's money March, Baby, it's money March. It's first of all, wait, rewind, we're. 7 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 8 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: I feel really good because it's International Women's Day today. 9 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. 10 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: And you know what that means, baby, I. 11 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Do know it means. Today is our birthday. Today is 12 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: the Good Mom's birthday. 13 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: It's our five year anniversary. We have been doing this 14 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: shit for. 15 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: Five other fucking years yours. Wow. Wow wow wow wow. 16 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: And what and what a testament that lands today an 17 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: actual episode day drop on a Wednesday. A Also that 18 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: it is money Mars. We're focusing on money and like 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: really being able to reflect on the growth of this 20 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: beautiful baby that we've nurtured and created. 21 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: Oh my goh, so much growth. I just can just 22 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: see us in the dining room right now in my head, 23 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: all the levels, all the angles of the dining room, 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: the bedroom, everywhere, everywhere you name it. We've podcasted. I 25 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: know it's wild. 26 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: And like even the releasing of our first episode, Sex 27 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: Apps and Kids. If you haven't listened to our first episode, 28 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: it's titled sex Apps and Kids, And we didn't even 29 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: realize we. 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: Were releasing it on International Women's Day. 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we did. It was just like 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna release it on this day. And then I 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: happened to like look on Instagram and it was like 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: it's International Women's Day. 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: We're like, oh, perfect, that makes sense. Yeah, we were like, okay, 36 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: this makes this makes sense. I know. I mean even 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: that that episode Secks Ups and Kids, we didn't really 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: record it thinking that I was gonna be our first episode. 39 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a test, and then we 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: were like, I don't have another hour to do this, 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: let's just put this one out. Yeah, and just jet, 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: I wish you would have listened to it before we 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: came just genuinely the growth, like personally individually, like where 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: we came from to where we are, it's crazy. 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: And like really having no expectation to make really any money. 46 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: I still like think back on so many parts of 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: our journey and like not really knowing or not really 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: having any clarity on why we're doing what we're doing, 49 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I don't even know 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: why I asked you to start a podcat has to 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, I know there was some sort 52 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: of intention. I think I like wanted to just do 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: something with somebody. But it wasn't like I had these 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: big plans. 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: No, but weren't gonna like we're gonna do We're gonna 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna make all this money. It was just like that, 57 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: it's something to do, let's do it. Like we were. 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 2: I think we were bored, lonely, desperate for change. I 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: don't know, we had no clear intention because it wasn't 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: like we're gonna, hey, do you want to serve business 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: with me? That definitely wasn't the the first mind. 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's probably why we've been successful, honestly, because 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: there wasn't this pressure that I think a lot of 64 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: people put on themselves to be super successful. Even now 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: in this podcasting space, Like there's so many podcasts now 66 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: and you know, we can hit up all the time 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: about you know, just how to start one, and I 68 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: don't have the answers for that because there really were 69 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: no rules here. I think, like when you move with 70 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: just honesty and excitement and just without like the hope 71 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: to make a million dollars in podcasting, Like that's kind 72 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: of the secret. 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: I think that it's a secret not overthinking it and 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: not overthinking it, because one thing we didn't do was 75 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: overthink it, and it was intentional, but it was really 76 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: just like our only intention was to come to show 77 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: up and tell the truth, like, hey, don't lie, don't 78 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: sugarcoat shit, and here we are, here we are. We've 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: done a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: a lot, a lot, a lot of a lot of 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: things in five years. My love, a lot of events, 82 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: a lot of meetups, a lot of new friends, a 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: lot of trips, a lot of tears, a lot of 84 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: community building. Literally, I'm just thinking of like Joshua Tree 85 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: and fucking getting our hair braided and doing your eyelashes 86 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: on camera while we were recording a podcast. 87 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and just and the kids like interrupting, like 88 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: all of our episodes and the elevator music and us 89 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: recording on two iPhones and the drama trying to get 90 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: the fucking videos off the iPhone, editing Amazon microphone, editing 91 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: an iMovie, like putting up episode like editing till three 92 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: in the morning so that I could release the episode 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: at eight am. Like just so so much blood, sweat, 94 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: fucking tears. 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: And making no money at all. We didn't really know 96 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: why we were doing it. We just knew we had 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: to keep going. 98 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: We weren't making a dollar, not one fucking dollar. In fact, 99 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: you guys breaking news. We were lying about some of 100 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: the ads that we were like placing in the podcast 101 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: early on. They were our friends. Oh yeah, like that, 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: what was it for? Like the model experience. Model Experience 103 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: was ventured Souls. It was like beauty blender. It was 104 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: like a bunch of just random things that we just 105 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: made up because. 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: We were manifesting getting adds. We were manifesting. 107 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: So much lying on media kits as we knew eventually 108 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: we'd hit those numbers, and we have like times ten. 109 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: So congratulations, thank you on five years of dedicating yourself 110 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: to this and sitting down every week to talk and 111 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: reflect and grow and heal and push. 112 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: Forward the collective. Congratulations. Congratulations, we have come a very 113 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: long way. We're not in the dining room, We're in 114 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: our own studio. We have our book on the dining 115 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: room table. I mean not the dining room table, the table, 116 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: the coffee table. And we just came back from Costa 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: Rica from leading our sixth retreat, and we're wearing our merch. 118 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, if you haven't checked out our merch, we 119 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: have a new drop. It's our first sweatsuit drop. It's 120 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: super cute. It's a redo of our really popular Manifest 121 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: University sweatshirt that we did a few years ago, and 122 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: so we reimagined it and know, I think I'm gonna 123 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: just model it because you know, the youtubes love the modeling. 124 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: So if you're if you're listening, go on YouTube right now. 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: Okay, we're modeling. Okay, okay, let's see. She's wearing the 126 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: full Manifest Universe, straight up Manifest University sweatsuit. It's teal, 127 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: it's pink, it's cute, it's uniformed, it's screamed spiritual storty 128 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: and turn around. I look that cute. But and on 129 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: the back get down says words or spells because they 130 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: are now watch what you say. You should see her 131 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: on her knees. 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm on my knees. 133 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: Oh, bend over, baby, so we can see how it 134 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: so it's it really works. It's stretches. It's good for 135 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: work and play. 136 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: It's super comfortable, you can still. 137 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Like, you know, shake the mass. It's pigment dyed. I've 138 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: been wearing it for like three days straight, so I 139 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: know this ship. 140 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: Me and Mela showed up to the airport in the 141 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: same fucking sweatsuit like twice. 142 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: Tweetled Bean tweetled dumb. You gotta represent it, we do. 143 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: So yeah. 144 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh also, I'm wearing our Reimagine long sleeves heather gray, 145 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: black as fuck, mam as fuck, and of course fine 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: as Fuck tea that was re released on uh in 147 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: Black History Month. 148 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's our Oh and then this is the 149 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: children's meet with the kids. If you want to match 150 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: with your with your with your mini me, we have 151 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: the mini manifest University. And look what it says on 152 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: that back. 153 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: Oh so cute. 154 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: I am magic because the children are magic and they 155 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: need to always remember that they're walking manifestation, walking affirmation. 156 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: So these are our These are our designs. 157 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: By the these are our designs. 158 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: We are the designers, with the designer of all the 159 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: cute people always are like so who designed your march? 160 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: And like us sweet us designer. 161 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: We are Canva artists. 162 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: I don't know why you're telling everybody business. 163 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: Because they need to know that it's fucking you can. 164 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: You too can be a merch designer. It's not like 165 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: some secret shit. I think people look at businesses and 166 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: they feel like things are unattainable. They think like even 167 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: our like the success that we've had, is unattainable. They 168 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: think that like creating their own online store is unattainable, 169 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: Creating their own retreat business is unattainable. Writing a book 170 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: is unattainable. It feels overwhelming. It feels like something that 171 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: you have to wait for, You have to get to 172 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: a certain level in order to do certain things, and 173 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: you will fucking your dreams and will crash and burn waiting. 174 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: That's true, you can't wait. I think that's our biggest 175 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: testament to like this is that we just did it 176 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: and we didn't wait, and we didn't let anyone tell 177 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: us it was too much and the name was too uh, 178 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: too taboo or the things we're talking about too or 179 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: too risque, and we committed to whatever we said we 180 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: were going to do, and we did that shit consistently, 181 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: even if we didn't really know, like the law long 182 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: term goal as they came up, we rose to the 183 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: occasion and like we were ready when opportunity came. And yeah, 184 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: we manifested a lot of shit and we sold ourselves 185 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: high because we had like high regard for our brand 186 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: and our business even without the entire full, bigger picture. 187 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: And that leads me to today's affirmation, which I think 188 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: should just be commit to your shit and the money 189 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: will come. 190 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: Commit to your shit and the money will come. 191 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, just commit to your passions. Like if you say 192 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: you want to do it, then just do it, you know, 193 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be crazy. I think we 194 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: like try to like overwhelm ourselves with these major goals 195 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: and like these major milestones that we have to hit. 196 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: And one thing I learned from my mom was just 197 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: do one thing every single day to push the needle forward, 198 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Just one thing. It doesn't have to be the whole 199 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: fucking thing. And this is the thing I've had to 200 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: learn too, because I'm one of these people, like I 201 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: get really a lot of anxiety if like there's things 202 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: left unchecked on my checklist that I feel like I 203 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: could have accomplished in the day, and like I've had 204 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: to release that I've really like tried hard over the 205 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: last few months to release that because it does nothing 206 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: for me. It is nothing for Jamila, it is nothing 207 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: for anyone in my business by me like making everyone 208 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: feel like everything is super important. Granted there is a 209 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of important shit that's happening, but it's all going 210 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: to get done. It's all going to get done. And 211 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: I feel like my value has a lot of my 212 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: value has been linked to how much work I get done, 213 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's that's something that I 214 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of women, I think men and women 215 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: we struggle with. It's like our value is really linked 216 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: to our productivity. And once we kind of release that, 217 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: it becomes so much more stress free, it becomes so 218 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: much more enjoyable. And you start to realize that, like 219 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: no one was waiting for that thing to be posted, 220 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: No one even knew it was gonna get posted, you know, 221 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: except you, bitch. 222 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there's like this fine balance too, because like 223 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: some of the one of the greatest pieces of business 224 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: advice we ever got was from mel Robbins, and she 225 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: was like, don't disrespect your business and don't let anybody 226 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: else disrespect your business. And you know, like this this 227 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 2: entire journey has been a lot of things, a lot 228 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: of like learning about ourselves, I mean, and then learning 229 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: about ourselves in this space like as bosses and as 230 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: businesswomen and making hard decisions and making fucked up fucking 231 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: up and learning from them and taking l's and getting 232 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: passed up on and just like and taking risks like 233 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: it's risky, and we took personal risks with this podcast 234 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: because it's not easy to tell like all of our 235 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 2: business and like be vulnerable. But you know, it's like, 236 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: what's it saying scared money? Don't make money? So it's 237 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: just like this fine balance between respecting your shit and 238 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: also like understanding that like shit always will get done. 239 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: But you know, just like the journey of becoming a 240 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: boss ass bitch in business has been, it's not like 241 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: always that easy. And even to this point, it's like 242 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: it becomes even more anxiety written because there's more writing 243 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: on the line, there's more people writing on you. There's 244 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: more like it's just a higher price to pay when 245 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: shit doesn't go as planned. So I've had to do 246 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: a lot of like I don't know we were talking 247 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: about sorry, I. 248 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: Know, I was just saying, like just you know, I 249 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: was just sharing that my product, my value has a 250 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: lot has been linked to my productivity and feeling like 251 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: I have to get everything done all at once. 252 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and I agree. And I also think that 253 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: we are very lucky that we found a business that 254 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: also brings us like personal fulfillment. And I don't think 255 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: it would have been as successful because like, it wasn't 256 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: about the value in the beginning. It was just about 257 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: like needing to get something out, you know, like what was. 258 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: The value to us it was a value, and how 259 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: it affected our well being, how we felt after talking 260 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: for an hour to two hours with each other and 261 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: then putting it out there, because I think it really 262 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: like we put it out there. We barely listened to 263 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: it and just put it out. But I felt better 264 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: after sitting and talking to you about whatever the fuck 265 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: was bothering me, right, And then somehow that also made 266 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: someone else feel better because they were maybe feeling the 267 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: same way too, Like. 268 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: The spiritual equity that it brought, the spiritual fulfillment that 269 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: it brought like leads and led to financial like financial 270 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: fulfillment because there was like a bigger fulfillment that it 271 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: was like holding and caring, and I couldn't understan. I 272 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: didn't understand it at first, but I think there is 273 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: something like we have conversations with our friends all the time, 274 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: sometimes that as honest as us, but like also the 275 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: releasing it into the universe, and now I'm letting it go, 276 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, and I don't care what anybody says, and 277 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: even for me, because I'll talk about stuff or I'll 278 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: think about stuff, but then I won't like ever think 279 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: about it or pick it back up. It was a 280 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: way to just be like and there's nothing you could 281 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: do about it, you know. Like it's been definitely been 282 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: a factor in like self acceptance for me because it's 283 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: just like, for sure he said what I said. 284 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: I think there also came a point though in our 285 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: business where we were like and it's there does I 286 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: think there comes a point in everyone's business, no matter 287 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: what your passions are, if you're passionate about something and 288 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: like you really actually want to you know, monetize the 289 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: business or really start to like, you know, enjoy the 290 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: fruits of your labor. Besides getting messages from women that 291 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: are like me too, there was a moment I think 292 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: in our I don't know what to think. It was 293 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: like I think it was like year three, which is 294 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: not that long ago, and it was like December, and 295 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: I think I said to you, like, we have to 296 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: make money next year. And I think once we like. 297 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: Flicked that on, like, well, if we don't make money, 298 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: what are we actually doing? Like like what the fuck? 299 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: Like we're working hard, but for what? 300 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: M M. But I think like, okay, we've established that 301 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: we're like we're here, we are with the shits. We're 302 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:27,239 Speaker 1: all about you know, sharing, elevating the community, supporting our community, 303 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: they're supporting us, But like what else, Like how we how? 304 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: What is how do we create even more value here? 305 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: And I think once we started really like taking time 306 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: and space to really think about it, things just kind 307 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: of started happening. I think we started to actually become 308 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: more intentional, whereas before we were just like Okay, it's 309 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: because every week was like we're just trying to catch up, 310 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: keep up, keep up. Oh my god, there's another Oh 311 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: my god, it's another week. Oh my god, it's another episode. 312 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god. They told us we can't take any seasons. 313 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: They told us that this is the best way to 314 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,239 Speaker 1: do it. We got that advice early on with podcasting, 315 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's actually like sound advice 316 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: at this point in you know, podcasting. 317 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: Consist of like not taking off any breaks. Yeah, yeah, 318 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: we certainly did it. And I don't know if that 319 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: like killed us or like made us super committed, because 320 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: after you've done it every week for two years or 321 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: three years, you're like, this is not going to be 322 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: the end all, like things are starting to cost money. 323 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: We need to do this and slowly and surely, like 324 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: I think as soon as you write, as soon as 325 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: you made that decision, slowly, like honestly, like the biggest 326 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: beginning for us of making money was like, yeah, we 327 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: started to like create little small batch merch runs, but 328 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: the book and that was not something we seeked out. 329 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: It like found us. And even that entire first year 330 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: of writing the proposal of our book, like we didn't 331 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: know that there was like a financial gain on the 332 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: other side. I don't really know what the fuck we thought. 333 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: We were just like, let's write this thing. It took 334 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: us a year to write, and then finally we took 335 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: all these meetings and at the end of all these meetings, 336 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: our agents were like, Okay, now you get to choose, 337 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, how do we choose? And they're like, well, 338 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: whoever offers you the most money and we were like what, well, 339 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: how much should they be offering? Guess I was like 340 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: really looking forward to hearing whatever like these numbers, and 341 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: they're like, well, hopefully in the six figures. I said, bitch, 342 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: why didn't you say that sooner? I literally I think 343 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: we're in New York, are on a call, and we're like, 344 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: what the fuck are they talking about? And sure enough, 345 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: that first like we got the highest bidder and the 346 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: highest bidder head was Harper and we had six figures, 347 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: and we we made a decision that that day this 348 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: was gonna this wasn't this wasn't going to be the 349 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: last of our biggest checks we ever got. And that 350 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: was just that was the only decision that had to 351 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: be made. And literally when we went to go write 352 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: the book in Costa Rica, we created the Good vibera 353 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: treat on accident and then that really shifted things for 354 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: our business, and we grew that business in one year 355 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: because we were really committed. I think once you do 356 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: something like for no pay consistently for three years, like 357 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: you really don't have you don't have fear, Yeah, you know, 358 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: like I can do this, I can do anything. 359 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: Fuck it, I did it for this long without money. 360 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Fuck it, let's try and make some money. 361 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was, it was and yeah, and here 362 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: we are. And then we made six figures in the 363 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: first year with that business because we said out loud, 364 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: this is not going to be the last time that 365 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: we do this. 366 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said too about the Tribe. 367 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: I shout out to the Tribe and everybody listening, like, 368 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, being able to speak to you guys directly, 369 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: and you know, form relationships with so many of you, 370 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Like we've done a lot of talking one on one 371 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: with many many of you, and whether that's in social 372 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: whether that's on our discord community, whether that's you coming 373 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: to the Good Vibe retreat, whether that's you coming to 374 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: our meet up, coming to our live shows. Like we've 375 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: definitely like created bondships with a lot of a lot 376 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: of people. And because of that, you guys kind of 377 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: like do the work for us, spread the message. That's 378 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: really like the secret to our growth is like other 379 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: people sharing other good moms, other people sharing us. And 380 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: so I think that because we were so genuine and 381 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 1: continue to be genuine in our commitment to you and 382 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: commitment to creating spaces for you guys to feel safe. 383 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: The community has in turn supported us and our dreams. 384 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: And I think that there's no amount of monetary there's 385 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: no amount of money that can build that kind of 386 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: that kind of. 387 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: What's the word I'm looking for. 388 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to say following, but just trust, trust, 389 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it had to come 390 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: without money because it had to be really genuine. And 391 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people missed that step. They 392 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: missed the step of like cultivating community. 393 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: Genuine community, not yeah, like just genuine trust, genuine relationship relationships. 394 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: You can't skip over that part if you're if your 395 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: business is community based, there's no way to skip over it. 396 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't care how many fucking Instagram ads you run, 397 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't care how many panels you speak on. Like 398 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: the groundwork happens at the ground and you have to 399 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: build the community, and it takes time, and it takes honesty, 400 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: and it takes commitment. 401 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: It takes for you to really be committed to it 402 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: in order to build that and like, yeah, I mean 403 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: even with each other, you know, I think, like even 404 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: not really knowing each other in the beginning, and like 405 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: the trust that we've built. I think the more we 406 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: began to trust each other, the momentum grew and like 407 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 2: what we saw that we could accomplish together. You know, 408 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: it's just like it's like a web. You know, it 409 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: started here and this friendship. You know, even within the 410 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: relationship with ourselves, you know, we had to build like 411 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: a certain kind of confidence and trust in ourselves to 412 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: be like, let me tell the truth and not be scared, 413 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: and then tell this other person and then in turn 414 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: tell all these other people. And it does. It creates 415 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: a space where people were like, oh, these crazy bitches 416 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: are talking about what they did and that they smoke 417 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 2: weed or they went to Coachella and did this or 418 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: whatever it is. But it creates a space where you 419 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: know that, like, this is not a place you have 420 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: to come perfect, you know, like this is just a 421 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: place where you can come as human as you want to. 422 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: And that has really created trust because you've heard me cry, 423 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: You've heard me fuck up, heard us cheat, you've heard 424 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: us like, you've heard all the things you know, like, 425 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: and I am not one I even sitting here and 426 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: having this conversation is like I'm like, I'm not. I 427 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 2: can't believe that I've been vulnerable as vulnerable on like 428 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: a public platform because that's not really Like I'm honest, 429 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: but it's not my thing to be like crying in 430 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: public amongst a bunch of strangers that I don't know. 431 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: But it's like this is how genuine this faces that 432 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: we just like there are times we really couldn't help it, 433 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: you know, or like we're not trying to perform. It's 434 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: not performative, it's not performative. It just is so like, yeah, 435 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: the community is really why we have grown, like been 436 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: so successful, and I'm so grateful, so so grateful because 437 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: I realize like most of our community are not our 438 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: personal friends. 439 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: But they've been turned given us confidence as business owners 440 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: and entrepreneurs. Like their support and your support has literally 441 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: made me be fearless, has really made me write these 442 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: chapters in this book and say fuck it. And and 443 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: for me, like I feel like that's harder for me 444 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: than it is for you, you know, Like I'm not, 445 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like let me just wait, you know, 446 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: but like I said when I sat when I sat 447 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: down and wrote, you know, my parts of this book 448 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: I said, like I've only given piece like parts and 449 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: pieces a protecting certain people that I don't you know, 450 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm I think about my daughter and just like you know, 451 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: the things that she might read about read later on 452 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: in this book, I think about, you know, my child's father, 453 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: and you know the ways that I continue still to like, 454 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say protect him but 455 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: not give him power. Really was what it is in 456 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: my voice and in my power in this space, because 457 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: early on he wanted to attribute his he wanted to 458 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: make it seem as though, like the reason why I 459 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: have a podcast is because of him, which you know, 460 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: you did make me a single mother, that's a fact, congratulations. 461 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: But the tribe is what made has made me feel 462 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: safe and saying you know what I'm gonna put it, 463 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm laying it all out, and I've laid it out here, 464 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: but really writing it down has been like extremely powerful 465 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: but made me feel confident. It's like this is my business, 466 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: like whether I'm whether I say it or not, you know, 467 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: and even creating the retreat, like me and Meil have 468 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: never been on a retreat, just like we've never started 469 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: a podcast, just like I've never opened up a podcast studio, 470 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: just like I've never written a book, just like I've 471 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: never been a mom or I've never designed jewelry or 472 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: never designed clothes or jewelry. 473 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: And like all the never's. 474 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: They don't scare me anymore. 475 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: I could do that. Yeah, everything I think of something 476 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: that we don't have. In fact, I'm like, never done it, 477 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: Fuck it, let's just do it. Let's try that. Yeah, 478 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: have you ever started a cannabis business? Nope, No, no, 479 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: never do that. I think we could do it. Yeah, 480 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: we just do a little market research, you know, never 481 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: styled a shoot, never made a deck. You know how 482 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: many decks I've made for our various companies, how many pitches, 483 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: how many times we've pitched ourselves for knows how many 484 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: fucking emails LinkedIn's that we've like just searched, how many 485 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: lists of brands we'd like to work with, how many 486 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: knows we've gotten like a lot, a lot, a lot 487 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: a lot. But I think just having clarity on what 488 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: our brand was, and you're right, like the only reason 489 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: we have clarity on what our brand was and that 490 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: it's okay is that our community has said so. Like, 491 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: like I said, We've had friends literally be like, I 492 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: really don't like I think that like bad Choices is 493 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: not a good name, and you know, saying all your 494 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: business is not like like likable or people are not 495 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: going to be associated with it, and brands telling us 496 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: we're explicit or like having having titles like make Come 497 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: Taste Good Again and what was it one with Kanye. 498 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Make America? Oh? 499 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: Is that what the Rachel zoul is all? Yeah, Rachel 500 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: zols Kanye some of our earlier on you. 501 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: If you guys are just catching up on our show, 502 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: I really would to encourage you to go to the beginning, 503 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: because Wow. 504 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: It's the wild wild West over there. It is the 505 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: wild one. 506 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: It's the wild wild West of podcasting. Not much has 507 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: changed now, but I think we've just grown more. And 508 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: like we were saying a lot about land as shit 509 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: that you know, maybe one day we'll come back to 510 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: haunt us. For example, how to tell if your man 511 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: is gay or bye? Five ways to find out if 512 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: your man is gay or bye, because we're experts, because 513 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: we're super experts in that, and that is super duper 514 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm prosthetic in this in this climate this day, it was. 515 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: Like my idea too, I said, I know I've wrote 516 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: down some ideas, how about this, people, the girls are 517 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: gonna lie this, and it was like, such stupid shit. 518 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: If we put this arm like this, Oh my goodness, 519 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things in there that probably are 520 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: not going to be popular next year and two years 521 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: from now. I'm not popular right now, but honestly, we 522 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: didn't start the podcast become popular. We started the podcast 523 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 2: to find our people. And I've just learned that our 524 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: people are our people, you know, even like I even 525 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: going to the retreat, it's always a beautiful like example 526 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 2: of like what a versatile like just community that we 527 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: have because I know, like I know, like you know, 528 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: we're obviously black, and we've said, like we talk about race, 529 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: and we joke about race and spirituality and we make 530 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: fun of a lot of shit because we're silly. But 531 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: then like we go to the like retreat and there's 532 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: so many different types of women for so many different places, 533 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: and it reminds me that everybody gets our sense of humor. 534 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: It's fine, everybody gets it, you know, everyone feels included 535 00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: and safe. 536 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Well there's that, but then there's also women that don't 537 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: get it. But then they keep listening. Yeah, like there's 538 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: been women that are like you triggered me when I 539 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: first heard you. Yeah, like I actually really hated your voice. 540 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: Your voice triggered the fuck out of me. But then 541 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: I had to ask myself why, and so I kept 542 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: listening shout out to Dutch so and I love that. 543 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: I love those stories too, because it just really, it 544 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: just it shows that a there is like there is 545 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: something of value here that keeps people coming back, even 546 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: if they don't necessarily subscribe to anything that we talk 547 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: about anything any ways that we live, any ways that 548 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: we raise our kids, any ways that we navigate our 549 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: love lives, our relationships. But yet they still come back 550 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: because there's something here that feels relatable, feels even if 551 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: it's not relatable, it feels maybe aspirational at times. And 552 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times too, that's part of 553 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: the business too. It's like people want to be inspired. 554 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: I think people have this idea that there's like this. 555 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: I mean, in ways, there are this level of fearlessness, 556 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: you know, because we are saying things like people usually 557 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: don't say, I'm being like incredibly honest and all those things, 558 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: but like, I am really really scared about our book 559 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: coming out. I am getting increasingly more anxious. And it's 560 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: something different about like that black and white printed you 561 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: can turn the page and put it in my face 562 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: and I have to read it like I'm I'm really 563 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: really scared and I've like I'm anxious about it, you know, 564 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: And I realized, like damn, I gotta go like talk 565 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: to people and let them know it's coming, and that 566 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: I've said certain things, and like. 567 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: Same, there's some people. There's certain people I'm not going 568 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: to talk to. You can just read it, yeah, but 569 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: there are certain people that I feel like deserve to know, 570 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: like what I've shared, whether or not I've already shared 571 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: it on the podcast or not. Like it's our book 572 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: is actually out for pre order now. Click the link 573 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: in this episode description to pre order our book. But yeah, 574 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: it's printed and it's coming out and I can't take 575 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: it back, and I don't want to take it back. 576 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: I think the biggest lesson in this entire thing is 577 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: like feel the fear and do it anyway. Feel the 578 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: fear and do it anyway. Like I'm scared as fuck, 579 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: but it's coming, Like like I get like all this 580 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: shit is new to me, Like I've like you said 581 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: I've never run a studio, We've never done a lot 582 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 2: of shit. It's all new, you know, I've never had 583 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: a team of ten people. That's never happened. And then 584 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: like it's just something that just like we've risen to 585 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: the occasion. We never fucking put a podcast out edited video, 586 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: but we did. And I think like the biggest lesson 587 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: of all this is like, if you want to do it, 588 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: just do it and stop stop letting fear like stop 589 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: you from even starting. You've got to do the shit 590 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 2: and then once you get there, you figure it out. 591 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: And I'm scared right now. I'm scared yesterday. I'm scared 592 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: next week. But I'm not gonna not do it. You know, 593 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: Like everything is going to be scary, especially the older 594 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: you get, you have more I have, the stakes are higher. 595 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: But one of my biggest things is like I would 596 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: hate to grow old and like about to be out 597 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: this bitch and then have like Matt, like have so much, 598 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: uh have so much like disappointment about things I wish 599 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: I would have done. That's my biggest fear in life, 600 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: always has been, is like I would hate to get 601 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: to the end of this bitch and be like I 602 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: should have could have would have. 603 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have tried this. I should have tried that. 604 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: I should have put that on. I should have just 605 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: fucking said I don't care, like I'm going to show 606 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: up this way. And I'm still working through those things too, 607 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: Like there's certain parts of my of who I am 608 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: that I still feel like I could show up even 609 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: more authentically, and and it's the fear. 610 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: Is still there. 611 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like it's like a constant 612 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: evolution too, because I'm constantly growing and finding out new 613 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: parts of about myself and. 614 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: And how to cope with them, how to cope with that, 615 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: you know, how to cope with the fear and like 616 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: live with it. I literally was like, do I need 617 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: a call my therapist? But maybe shit? But like it's 618 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: the doing it anyway. 619 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just so many and there's just so many 620 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: things too, like in this world too, that like they 621 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: feed us and they show us like, hey you can 622 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: try this, Hey you can try that, Like want to 623 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 1: try this, want to try that, And there's certain things 624 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I don't try that. 625 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: But they also make you feel like you can only 626 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: be good at one thing, you know, like even like 627 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: I've done it, Like, oh, you know, I do this, 628 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: I do that. I'm a dancer, I make I'm a cook. 629 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: I also do me Like, oh, I could do use security, 630 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: Like you got to choose one, but you don't, you know, 631 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: you could do it. You could do them all. You 632 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: can make one business and make them all and make 633 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: it all makes sense. It's not like no one can 634 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: tell you what you're good at except you, And it's 635 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: like it's unfortunate that we think that we needed like 636 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: a certain level of I don't know, like I don't know, 637 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: cerification or title or success us in order to say 638 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: you're an artist or you're this or you're that. But like, yeah, 639 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: you can beat there with the fuck you want to be. 640 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. I do, though, think that you need to You 641 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: can't be good at everything all at once, though, Like 642 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: you do have to like decide what you're gonna do. 643 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: You can one thing at a time. Yeah. Yeah, we've 644 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: definitely shifted a lot, but mostly we like we've been 645 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 2: consistent as fuck with this and then we're like let's 646 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: try this and see how this goes, and let's try this, 647 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: but like first let's get a good grip on this. 648 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: And the podcast has been like our our rock, our 649 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: foundation has. 650 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: I just feel like people look at certain people's successes 651 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: and they think they're special, like they've been given something special, 652 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: and like I can't do that. I don't know how 653 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: to do that. And I think I'm here to say 654 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: like there's really nothing so unique or special about me 655 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: or Jamila, like. 656 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: No, we are special and unique, but so are you. 657 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: We are but just I just I'm more so mean 658 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: to say. 659 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: We're not doing anything that you can't do or no 660 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: one else can do. And that used to be my 661 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 2: most annoying part of watching award shows when people would 662 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: think people and they're like, I just want to say 663 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: that anyone can do this, and I'd be like, bait, 664 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: shut up, bere at the Academy Awards. But but now 665 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: I get it. I actually get it, and I think 666 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: we are just so blessed that we we realized early 667 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: that our gift is just literally showing up as ourselves. Yeah, 668 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: as weird, as fucking quirky, as like as triggering as 669 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: it can be for some people. I know people hate 670 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: when we say nigga, you know, like, I'm sure there's 671 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: a lot of shit that irritates us about people like 672 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: that's a part of being human. I might remind you 673 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: of somebody something about me might like same with Erica, 674 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: Like there are so many there are so many factors, 675 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: but it doesn't fucking matter. Like showing up as your 676 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: complete self is like I think half the battle, especially 677 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: if you want to you want to pursue a career 678 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: in something that doesn't feel against who you are. I 679 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 2: feel like if you want to feel like follow I 680 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: think anything. When you follow your purpose, it's gonna be 681 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 2: so aligned with who you are. It's not gonna hurt 682 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: to get up and go every day. It's not gonna 683 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: be a go against everything, you know what I mean. 684 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: Like when we're at the retreat, I'm literally like leading 685 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: a mushroom ceremony and I'm topless, like being super serious 686 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: in a like sister circle, like everybody, can everyone take 687 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: deep breaths? I literally I want to go. Yeah, we're 688 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: both the titties out, titties out in the jungle like 689 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: and like then our women, the women are like can 690 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: I think I need to get naked? I'm like a 691 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 2: naked yeah. And I'm just like spreading sage around naked 692 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 2: women while they're just so freaking their bodies and comfortable 693 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: in the jungle. I'm like, I did this. I didn't 694 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: I sent out the siren to call these women to 695 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: come feel so comfortable and so themselves that they said 696 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 2: fuck it at three o'clock on the afternoon in the jungle, 697 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: in the middle of the yoga shalla, I'm about to 698 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: get butt ass naked and listen to these sambals with 699 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: Milan Erica, Like, ha, do we not said all the 700 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: weird shit we've done, told all the stupid stories, like 701 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: all the dumb shit. Maybe someone would would feel like 702 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: weird about showing up and like doing these weird things. 703 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 2: Like you guys, we were like very weird women. But 704 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: we but we. 705 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: Go through all the same exacttion as everyone else. Like 706 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: I bleed, I fucking sometimes I pee on myself. 707 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've told I totally freak somebody out. 708 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure everyone was, Like I try to like 709 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: take it to wait till like day three to get 710 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: too weird at the retreat, you know, but like I 711 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: really had to pee, Like we really had to pee, 712 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 2: And there's so much grass everywhere, so I'm like I'm 713 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 2: not walking all over there, so I just gently walk 714 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: my ass up the yoga shalla into the grass, squatted 715 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: over the grass and pull my bathing suit to the 716 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: side and pete in the grass. And I saw someone 717 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: look over at me like huh, and I'm like yeah, 718 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm yeah, sorry. I'm not sorry though, because we don't 719 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: say sorry. It's a retreat. But I got a pee 720 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: and it's the most human nature thing. But like my 721 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 2: bladder is very is not as unreliable at this point. 722 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's because I'm thirty five. I'm 723 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 2: about to be thirty five. Well that's why you need 724 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 2: to do yard lab. That's why you need to try 725 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: yard lab. Oh you know what I did. I tried 726 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: it a little bit and it's so weird you don't 727 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: even feel it. 728 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: I know, no, because bitch, last time, I was in 729 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Costa Rica. Do you remember when I was in the 730 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: grocery store and like you guys, this is really embarrassing. 731 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: This is we're going off topic real quick. But I 732 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: was in the grocery store at Costa Rica and I 733 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: don't know if it's because it's warm there or like 734 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm thirty five now, I was thirty four at that point, 735 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: but I'm sitting and I'm like, but I'm like looking 736 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: at bread and I'm like I look down and I'm like, 737 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: did I what is what? What is running down my life? 738 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: And I realized that I was peeing myself? 739 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was. 740 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck is this? 741 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 2: Did you feel like you had to pee? No? Like 742 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: that was the weirdest part of all. 743 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: And like when I was out there, like I was 744 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: feeling like that kept happening, Like I don't know, It's 745 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: like sometimes I've heard that there's like anxiety induced incontinents. 746 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 2: Oh for sure for me in my own anxiety, and. 747 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: I would like to think like I'm at my lowest 748 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: anxiety when I'm in Costa Rica. However, at that point 749 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: in the retreat business, we were doing absolutely every fucking thing, 750 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: including holding space for like fifty women. So probably what 751 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: did have a little bit of anxiety? You have anxiety, 752 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: But no, I've been I've been not since then, but 753 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: recently I've been starting to use yr lap And you know, 754 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: I feel like talking about the pelvic floor muscle, like 755 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: women get really weird about this, but it's something that 756 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: like we all experience, especially as you get older. You 757 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: don't even have to have a child to have in 758 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: continents like you bitch, you know, if you sneeze and 759 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: you be on your yourself a little bit, you know 760 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: what the fuck I'm talking about. If you have to 761 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: wear pantyliners in your thong daily, you know what I'm 762 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: talking about, and that really can fuck with like your 763 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: mental and like, granted I haven't gotten there yet, but 764 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: I was not about to get there, and so I 765 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: started using your lap and literally I just like put 766 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: it in. I read a book and it does these 767 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: kegel exercises for me. It's actually I barely feel it, 768 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 1: and I had no problems ever since. Girl. Well, in fact, 769 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: my orgasms are much stronger because I have been also 770 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: trying to in this new year, my goal was to 771 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: stop using vibrators because I'm a slave to my vibrator. 772 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 2: Specifically the rose mine broke. 773 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: So thought it's probably for the best, honestly, like I 774 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: really love the rose shout out to anyone who gave 775 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: us one. But I started to feel like my pussy 776 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: was getting desensitized, Like for real, I was like when 777 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: I touched my pussy with my hands, like I would 778 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: get frustrated, like the fact that it was like taking 779 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: longer than I wanted to get. So I've been really 780 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: trying to focus on, you know, self pleasuring, especially in 781 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: school in Tandra school, Like you're not telling you to 782 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: use the death's definitely encouraging you to use your hands. 783 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was cheating. I mean. The thing for me, 784 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: it's so crazy, is like there there are so many 785 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: things that women are trained to, you know, condition to 786 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 2: keep up, you know, like get botox, get all the 787 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: all the highest skincare, go to the gym, you know, 788 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: like like all these things you do yoga, all these 789 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 2: things that we do to take care of ourselves our hair, 790 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: our nails, our skin, just to keep it like up 791 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: to par, taking vitamins, but we forget about our woman, 792 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 2: our pelvic floor, and like these are the things that 793 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 2: support us through our lives. Birding babies, having orgasms, like 794 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: the most two important things that are like our bodies 795 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: perform and we don't think to do the necessary exercises 796 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: and like hegels are one of them. It's not like 797 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 2: we don't know what they are, we just forget to 798 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: do them. And even like yeah, in Tantry school, it's 799 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: like a part of a lot of the meditations is 800 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: like extra like holding in your keegel floor and exercising 801 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 2: and doing your kegels and so especially like for me, 802 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: when I like I can, I'll be holding pee, but 803 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 2: like that very last moment, as soon as like I 804 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: can see the toilet, my bladder's like, aha, fuck you, 805 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: I'm kidding, Like I'm like, oh, am, I I'm too 806 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 2: old for this, right, Like why am I peeling my 807 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 2: pants a little bit? And hopefully I'm. 808 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Not worry you're not using your lap, bitch. 809 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna go use my yar lap because 810 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: I definitely sprinkle a little bit and hopefully, like that's 811 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 2: another reason I've been wearing panties because if I don't 812 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 2: or panties and I'm really fucked, and if I'm wearing 813 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: a skirt or something, it's just it's just it's a 814 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 2: real thing. 815 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: And women really, like I feel like women like really 816 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: suffer in silence around so many things when it comes 817 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: to you know, our womb our pussies, like whether it's 818 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: the scent, whether it's how it feels, is it tight enough? 819 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: Am I peeing on myself? Can I squirt? Is that pee? 820 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: Like the don't look like that other pussy is my pussy. 821 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: Is my pussy lips too long? Are they too short? 822 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: Like you know, is it like there's ween? 823 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 2: Is it too dry? 824 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? It tastes good, but there is I feel like 825 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: pussy upkeep and we ignore it because we just are 826 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: ashamed or we feel like, h I'll get to it. 827 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: Or maybe it was just that one partner, maybe like 828 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: he's just not pleasing me, and it's like, no, bitch, 829 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: your pelvic floor is falling and. 830 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta work on her, work on her. Yeah, 831 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: it's like she's worth keeping up too, and it's not 832 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: something to ignore. We are so trained to ignore our 833 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: entire like beneath our belly buttons. You know, it's like 834 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 2: you want to be too sexual, it would be over like, 835 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 2: but it's it needs to be cared for. And it's 836 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 2: true your love makes it super easy. So there's no 837 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 2: need to like suffer in silence anymore. There's no need 838 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: to ignore her. Like she's a part of you, she's important, 839 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 2: she deserves pleasure and like sometimes like you need to 840 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 2: put a little little extra work. 841 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: And I'm here to say I think when you start 842 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: really acknowledging your womb, you become even more and more 843 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: powerful in all spaces, including business, like including how you 844 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: show up in your relationships, including just feeling overall empowered. 845 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy like to kind of like 846 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: blend those two things together. 847 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: Emily said from week one. She said, I had a 848 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: premonition that our power is directly connected to our womb, 849 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: and we forget that. If we ignore our womb, we 850 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: are not in contact with our power. We're not like 851 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: we're not We're ignoring parts of ourselves and in one 852 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: of the most powerful parts. You will forget your own 853 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 2: power if you're not connected with her, and society will 854 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: already make us do that. 855 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: I think even just like overall health in general is 856 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: so important when you are trying to be successful, like 857 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: you can't You can't expect to be able to really 858 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: fully nurture your creativity, your ideas, your passions. If you're 859 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: not taking care of yourself like you kill but you're 860 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: not at your you're not going to be operating at 861 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: your highest capacity. 862 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: Now that we've we're at this point where we have 863 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: so much shit going on, I realize like the importance 864 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 2: of just taking care of my mind, body, soul, or 865 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 2: else I'm not gonna be able to keep up all 866 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 2: the all the work I've put into all the manifesting. 867 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 2: If like, if I get to this point and I have, 868 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 2: if I haven't cared for myself spiritually and in health, 869 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: like I'm going to be fucked. I'm not gonna be 870 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 2: able to keep up with all this momentum because we 871 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: all we are moving really quickly. And I realize, like, okay, 872 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 2: but you need to go have a seat and breathe, 873 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: but you need to go, like you need to wash 874 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 2: your face at night. You know, we're moisturizer. Okay, Like 875 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 2: it's like it's true. I'm like, wow, I'm an adult. 876 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: I need to I need to fucking moisturize my hands 877 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,479 Speaker 2: and my neck. 878 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: I realized the spiritual aspects has been missing, kind of 879 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: missing in my in my life. You know, we talk 880 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: a lot about that. But like the dedication to my 881 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: practices I feel like has really helped me in the 882 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,760 Speaker 1: last few months immensely, especially even as a business owner. 883 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: My patience and like my optimism, like it's just different 884 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: like I was. You know, we did this challenge with 885 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: open the Open app in January that really like set 886 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: me up for the rest for this year. And then 887 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: I continued off. I continue to do it in February, 888 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: and then I came back from Costa Rica and I 889 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: went a few days without, you know, doing my practices, 890 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, I actually and then I meditated 891 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: actually today, and I was like, okay, no, I cannot 892 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: fall off. I'm not starting back all over again, Like 893 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: I am not doing this to myself. It's like when 894 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: you start exercising and you get to a point where're like, 895 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: I feel good and then you like want to fall 896 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: fuck and fall off and you have to start all 897 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: over again. Like that's the same shit when it comes 898 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 1: to like your the dedication to your practices. And I 899 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: am was like, no, bitch, come back, come back. And 900 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: even today's meditation was whack as hill. Okay, I was like, 901 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 1: I didn't meditate, shit, I sat there, I did something, 902 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 1: but it's okay. I know that, like at least I 903 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: dedicated that fifteen minutes of time to just even if 904 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: I was even if I was sitting in silence and 905 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: my mind was going to this, this, this, and that, 906 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: I still sat down and said, Okay, I'm this is 907 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: my this is my practice, and I'm doing it. And 908 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: I think, like you have to carve out time for 909 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: those practices while you're trying to nurture and build a business. 910 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: You can do without it, but like that's one thing 911 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: that I'm learning right now. It's really hard to do 912 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: it later. That's what I'm thinking learning right now. That's 913 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: been super transformational. And just like honestly, like, yeah, believing 914 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: in whatever it is, what you believe in, whether that's 915 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: a god, whether that's whatever it is, Like having an 916 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: anchor is really really important because if you don't have 917 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: an ancher, you don't have faith, then none of this 918 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: shit is gonna work out. 919 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 2: It's so true. And it's that's my that's hard as 920 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 2: hell for me, like to take time for myself and 921 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 2: just to like to be like this is you're gonna 922 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 2: be half later because I get super anxious and then 923 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 2: I'm like, bitch, because you haven't carved out time. It's hard, 924 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: but it's for you. You know, you do it for 925 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 2: your kid, you do it for everybody else, and it's 926 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: like are how important are you to you? And like 927 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 2: that's difficult for me, But I also realize like if 928 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 2: I want to have longevity, then I absolutely have to 929 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 2: do it or else I'm going to fuck myself and 930 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to keep up, and 931 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 2: my thoughts are going to move really quickly, and I'm 932 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 2: going to be super anxious about if I told everybody 933 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,479 Speaker 2: in the book what I said, and like all these things, 934 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 2: and it's like I've realized at this point, it's like, bitch, 935 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: there's nothing like you gotta either like to step into it, 936 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 2: or you're gonna constantly be living in the present, living 937 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 2: in the past, living in the future, and you're going 938 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 2: to be anxious all the time, like worrying about things 939 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 2: that don't need to be worried about, wasting time, wasting 940 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 2: time in the present, worrying about shit that you can't change. 941 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 2: Is a waste of fucking time. Mm hmm. It's like 942 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 2: a waste of your life because there's always gonna be 943 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: something to be stressed about, always, forever always. 944 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 1: I finished my meditation and then I was like, don't 945 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: look at your phone. Don't look at your phone, because. 946 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna get And then I was there stressing. 947 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: So I waited like ten minutes, and you know, my 948 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: meditation kind of went to shit because we had a 949 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: little hiccup today and I was like raw, and. 950 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't helping, like hyping you up, and then Luna 951 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 2: was hyping me up. So it's just you don't like that. 952 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: I was waiting for you to give me the light. 953 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 2: I felt like if I held it, you would have 954 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: a lighter. 955 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 3: You had it, it was green, Oh, I have it? 956 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 2: Okay. Anyway, do you have any other money business advice 957 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: you'd like to give the people for money March? 958 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: Just whatever is a value to you. If whatever, if 959 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: you've had something, if there's something that you find valuable, 960 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: other people will find it valuable too. You just have 961 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: to figure out how to make it easily digestible, Like 962 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: do you think we made it easily digestible. I think 963 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 1: there's been times, Yes, yes I do. But I also 964 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: think that there's been times where like we've you know, 965 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: overthought things. And that's that's one thing I know about us. 966 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: Don't let us sit on some shit for too long, 967 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: Like we're not good at that. We're not good with 968 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: those kind of things we are really good at, like 969 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: quick intuitive decision making. Like if you let me sit 970 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,720 Speaker 1: with a decision for too long, I'm gonna over fucking 971 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: think it and then it's gonna get fucked up. You know, 972 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: like like you just but that's not always everyone else's, 973 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: you know, way that they process things. You know, I 974 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: think in when we have that reading with Aaron Claire Jones, 975 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,959 Speaker 1: she's a human design expert. She came on our show 976 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: and gave us our human design I'm a projector Jamalism manifestor. 977 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: I realized that that's my superpower. 978 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: It is. 979 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: I always knew it, but I thought like, well, maybe 980 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm I shouldn't be so instinctive, like I should just 981 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: there or what's not non instinctive? What's the word where 982 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: you're like make decisions too quickly? 983 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 984 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 1: Hey, that word? But that's when I make my best choices, 985 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: Like my first mind is always the best mind. So 986 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,959 Speaker 1: you know, find whatever you find value in. Start there. 987 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: Like if you're like I don't know what, I don't 988 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 1: know what my calling is, whatever, what do you find 989 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: value in? 990 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 2: What is it that? 991 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: Like? What is the problem you're trying to solve in 992 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: your everyday life? 993 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 3: You know? 994 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: For me, it was like I needed to someone who 995 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: could relate to my experience. That was the problem I 996 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: was trying to solve. That was what I needed. And 997 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: so when I met Jamila I was like, boom, that's it. 998 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: I started there and then everything else kind of manifested 999 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: from there. You know, our our retreat business has been 1000 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: wildly successful. We've only had this business for a year, 1001 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: one fucking year. People think people like, you've only done 1002 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: it for a year, but like, you've been doing this 1003 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: for years. I'm like, no, bitch, it's been one year, 1004 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: one year, and we've made a great amount of money. 1005 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, that's been able to support us. It's been 1006 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: able to support our dreams, it's been able to support 1007 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: our kids, and you know, even more so than the 1008 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: podcast for. 1009 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 2: Sure, You guys, Podcasting doesn't make you rich. Podcasting will 1010 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 2: not make you rich unless you're fucking Joe Budden and 1011 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 2: fucking but other than Joe, Joe Rogan. 1012 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: And even Like and even Joe Like, they have different 1013 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 1: legs to their things are making money while they sleep. 1014 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 2: That is the secret. 1015 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 1: You will always be working day to day if you 1016 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: haven't figured out how to make money while you sleep. 1017 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where I saw that quote online or something, 1018 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: but it's true. You have to have multiple streams of 1019 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: income or else you're just going to be a slave 1020 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: to your nine to five Unless you want to be 1021 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: a slave too. Nine to five. Some people really like 1022 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: that lifestyle, and that's cool. You're not a slave to 1023 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: me though. For me, I feel like a slave in 1024 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: that way. I need flex I need creativity. I need 1025 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: to be creating on some on a few different realms 1026 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: in order to feel fulfilled. So that's how I feel. 1027 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm pulling all these crazy cards. I streight and pull 1028 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 2: another one. Then this one came. 1029 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how to pull the death card, but yeah, 1030 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: I know that's it. Just dreams. Find something of value. 1031 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 1: The money will come be. Just make take one step 1032 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: at a time, work towards your goals, one thing every 1033 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: single day. Make sure you take care of your mind, body, 1034 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: and soul, and your pelvic floor most importantly, your mind, body, soul, 1035 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: pelvic floor very very important, even for the men's you 1036 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: guys have public floors. 1037 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 2: Also. 1038 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: You need to do kegels also, and maybe do some 1039 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: steaming retention to put your put that chi energy back 1040 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: inside of you, because some of you guys are really 1041 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: fucking depleted. Edging, not even edging, because edging, at some 1042 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: point you release, I mean, don't calm, nigga, put that 1043 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: ship back inside. Let that ship go back to your brain. 1044 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you'll be a little bucking smarter. Maybe ye know, 1045 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: so we pulled to is a tarot time I pulled 1046 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: the seven swords, I'm gonna read it reverse. Maybe this 1047 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 1: is for somebody listening. 1048 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 2: Trying to read it any other way than they can read. 1049 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,959 Speaker 2: The seven of swords often appears reversed when you feel 1050 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 2: like a fraud and are suffering from imposter syndrome. You 1051 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 2: may doubt yourself and your abilities. For example, if you 1052 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 2: have started a new business, you may ask yourself, who 1053 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 2: am I to be doing that? Know that this is 1054 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 2: fear talking, Get out of your head and trust that 1055 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 2: you have everything you need to make a new venture 1056 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,720 Speaker 2: six us. Similarly, the seven of Storis reverse can suggest 1057 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 2: that you are deceiving yourself, trying to trick yourself into 1058 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 2: believing something even though it is out of integrity with 1059 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 2: your true self. Integrity with your true self, You may 1060 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 2: attempt to fool yourself that everything is okay when it 1061 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 2: does not. You now it is time to get real 1062 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 2: with where you are and confront your situation head on. 1063 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 2: As a card of inner deceit, the reverse seven of 1064 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 2: swords represents keeping his secrets hidden from others. You may 1065 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 2: be harboring a dark secret that you will you hope 1066 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 2: will never be revealed. Keeping the secret may bring you 1067 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 2: stress and tension, along with deeper feelings of guilt and shame. 1068 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 2: While the thought of confessing may be horrifying, it will 1069 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 2: free you from the negative emotions you're experiencing. First, forgive yourself, 1070 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,720 Speaker 2: then confide in someone you trust you will not doubt. 1071 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,359 Speaker 2: You will not doubt feel much lighter as you will 1072 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 2: no doubt feel much lighter as a result. 1073 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: So stop lying to yourself. Be honest with yourself. Are 1074 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 1: you happy with where you're at? Also, know you are capable. 1075 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 2: You can do it. 1076 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 1: You don't have to like look at other people and 1077 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: seek outwardly and doubt yourself because you see other people's successes. 1078 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: That's super easy to do on Instagram. It's super easy 1079 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: to do just looking anywhere where you see people you 1080 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,399 Speaker 1: know getting the things that you want or you feel 1081 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: like you deserve. 1082 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 2: I pulled the death card after it says death is 1083 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 2: probably the most figured and misunderstood of all the cards 1084 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 2: in the deck. Most people freak out word. They will 1085 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 2: suddenly kneel over and die as soon as this card apires. Relaxed. 1086 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 2: The death card can be one of the most positive 1087 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 2: cards in the deck after a period of pause and 1088 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 2: reflection with the hanged man. The death card symbolizes the 1089 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 2: end of a major phase or aspect of your life 1090 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 2: that you realize is no longer serving you, opening up 1091 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 2: the possibility of something far more valuable and essential. You 1092 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 2: must close one door to open another. You need to 1093 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 2: put the past behind you in part ways, ready to 1094 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 2: embrace new opportunities and possibilities. It may be difficult to 1095 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 2: let go of the past, but you will soon see 1096 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 2: its importance and the promise of renewal and transformation. If 1097 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 2: you resist these necessary endings, you may experience pain, both 1098 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 2: emotionally and physically. But if you exercise your imagination and 1099 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 2: visualize a new possibility, you allow more constructive patterns to emerge. Hmm, 1100 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 2: don't play yourself, Stop playing yourself? Do you have any 1101 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 2: anything else to add to the podcast? 1102 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: My Love? Fuck the Fear and do it anyway? 1103 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 2: Fuck the fear and do it any motherfucking way. Yolo. 1104 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: Well, you guys hopefully know where to find us, but 1105 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: if not, make sure you go follow us at Good 1106 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: Mom's Underscore Bad Choices, check out our retreat. We just 1107 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: and we announced our new retreat, our next retreat, which 1108 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: is in a new location, Mexico. I'm almost saw you 1109 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: lead the Maico. It's Peblo Magico Michicel and you're I know, 1110 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be amazing. If you have been thinking 1111 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: about taking a summer vacation with your girls, come through. 1112 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: If you need to find your tribe, come through. If 1113 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: you need an excuse to get away, come through. We'll 1114 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: be there and it's always a vibe, So make sure 1115 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: you check out at the Good Vibe Retreat for those dates, 1116 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: or to click the link in this episode description. Please please, 1117 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: please please go pre. 1118 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 2: Order our book, please right now. Just do it. 1119 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: It means so much to us. 1120 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 2: Please just do it. Thanks. Buy it for a friend too. 1121 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, buy it for a mom. If you're not a 1122 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: mom by buy it for a mom, Buy it for 1123 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: a new mom. This is really a book that I 1124 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: wish that I had prior to having a child, honestly, 1125 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: not even like yeah, like even prior to having a kid. 1126 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I wish I would have could have 1127 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 2: come on handing in a lot of points prior to 1128 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 2: having a kid, having a kid, being newly single as 1129 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 2: a mom. It could have come in. 1130 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: Handy many many Yeah, there's many points in which this 1131 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: book could have I feel helped me, But. 1132 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 2: I made all the mistakes for you. So give it 1133 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 2: to a friend, save her. 1134 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: I guess that's it. Check out our merch on our 1135 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: website and support to black baby mamas. 1136 00:59:52,840 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: Bye bye, m H. 1137 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: This is yo Ellena j solo ball recorded 1138 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Elas