Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. Dj Buck
Speaker 1: back with you, Buck. What's going on man? Not too much, Djay.
Speaker 2: Middle of the week, trying to get ready hump Day,
Speaker 2: trying to get on the other side to get to
Speaker 2: another exciting football weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to a fun weekend of football. We
Speaker 1: are going to run a conversation I had yesterday with
Speaker 1: our colleague at the NFL Media Group, Coach Ron rivera
Speaker 1: those that don't know, Coach rivera former head coach of
Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Commanders, played for Chicago Bears. Really
Speaker 1: highly respected around the league, not only as someone was
Speaker 1: a good player and a really good coach, but someone
Speaker 1: who was really the highest character who's just very well
Speaker 1: regarded for how he treats people and his leadership ability.
Speaker 1: I had a chance to visit with him Buck really
Speaker 1: right on the heels of the trade with the Jets
Speaker 1: acquiring DeVante Adams, so we have a chance to discuss that,
Speaker 1: as well as his thoughts on the rookie quarterbacks, including
Speaker 1: one he could have used in Washington when he was there.
Speaker 1: In Jaydeen Daniels. So, without further ado, here's my conversation
Speaker 1: with Ron RIVERA well coach. He appreciates taking the time
Speaker 1: for us today. I guess it's fortuitous that we're going
Speaker 1: to have you on and we get a big in
Speaker 1: season trade, which we don't see a lot of in
Speaker 1: the NFL. But just a first reaction when you heard
Speaker 1: the news DeVante Adams no longer Raider, he's going to
Speaker 1: rejoin Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Well, my first thought was good for New York. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I really did think that, you know, Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 3: going to have somebody's very comfortable with, a guy that
Speaker 3: already knows and knows his mindset as to what he
Speaker 3: wants to do with wide receivers, how he wants to
Speaker 3: use them, what he expects of them. But I also
Speaker 3: think this is a guy that's going to help their
Speaker 3: football team more so anything else. I believe that. I
Speaker 3: believe the offense will get better. I think what will
Speaker 3: happen is Aaron will play with more confidence. He'll also
Speaker 3: play knowing that he's got his safety, his safety valve,
Speaker 3: he's got a guy that's very familiar with him. And
Speaker 3: then I think he's also going to know that DeVante's
Speaker 3: going to help that young room of receivers. He's going
Speaker 3: to help those guys grow and develop and be better
Speaker 3: football players just by example that he's going to set.
Speaker 3: It's going to help the running game as well, because
Speaker 3: the running game will not have to face as many
Speaker 3: eight men boxes. I think it'll also help the offensive
Speaker 3: line because there are some quick throws that he makes
Speaker 3: to DeVante that's going to get the ball out of
Speaker 3: the quarterback's hands. The offensive line is not going to
Speaker 3: have to sit there and try and protect as long
Speaker 3: as he's had to, So I think that's the plus
Speaker 3: as far as the offense concerned. Defensively, it'll help them
Speaker 3: as well. Why because I think on some of them
Speaker 3: third downs, the drivers are going to be extended. They'll
Speaker 3: spend fewer plays on the field, the offense will handle
Speaker 3: the ball a little bit longer, and I think eat
Speaker 3: up a little bit more clock. I think overall this
Speaker 3: is a good thing for the New York Jets as
Speaker 3: far as the Raiders are concerned. I think now the
Speaker 3: players won't have to deal with the question of, Hey,
Speaker 3: when's DeVante coming back or does he really want to
Speaker 3: get traded? That distraction is gone. I mean, so let's
Speaker 3: be honest about that as far as that'll be a
Speaker 3: plus for the Raiders. Plus they get a third round
Speaker 3: pick that could become a second based on a couple
Speaker 3: of things happening.
Speaker 1: I always look at it from a team building side coach,
Speaker 1: and I've always said, I think it's important that you
Speaker 1: know what window that you're in. You know, are you
Speaker 1: in your win now window or is your window in
Speaker 1: the future. And understanding that from the Raiders, I thought
Speaker 1: it made a lot of sense. I mean, they're not
Speaker 1: ready right now, they need a quarterback. Their window is
Speaker 1: often the future, whereas the Jets with Aaron's age, I
Speaker 1: think you could say, man, that window is it's open,
Speaker 1: but man, it's closing quickly. So I thought from a
Speaker 1: windows standpoint, you can make an argument this was a
Speaker 1: no brainer for both of these teams.
Speaker 3: Most certainly a no brainer because again, the Jets are
Speaker 3: in that win now mode. You see it based on
Speaker 3: the fact that they have Aaron Rodgers out on the
Speaker 3: football field. They try to, you know, spend some money
Speaker 3: to protect him, and now they spend some money to
Speaker 3: get him his pass catcher and that's a big move and.
Speaker 1: For the Raiders. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: It's a young football team with a young head coach
Speaker 3: that's going to go through some growing pains. But why
Speaker 3: not take the time, Why not go ahead and see
Speaker 3: if we can get as much of this draft capital
Speaker 3: as we can get this currency that we need to
Speaker 3: be able to build this team and get into a
Speaker 3: great position. If you look at what happened for the Bears,
Speaker 3: look what happened for the Commanders. You know, these are
Speaker 3: teams that had a lot of draft capital to come
Speaker 3: into this past draft, and they were able to not
Speaker 3: only get their quarterbacks of the future as we're starting
Speaker 3: to see, but they were also able to get them
Speaker 3: some offensive weapons.
Speaker 1: And you led me right there. That's where I wanted
Speaker 1: to go next, because what we're seeing right now with
Speaker 1: these rooky quarterbacks, not only the performance, but in the
Speaker 1: teams they're having success now Drake may Will put him
Speaker 1: off to the side. He got his first start the
Speaker 1: other day. Spencer Rattler as well. But let's focus on
Speaker 1: the guys that the three guys that have played a
Speaker 1: lot this year, starting from the jump with Jayde Daniels
Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams specifically, let's start with those two. We'll
Speaker 1: get the bow Nicks in a minute. But the team's
Speaker 1: success to go along with the individual success. What's been
Speaker 1: most impressive there from you?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll be honest, I thought Caleb would start off
Speaker 3: a lot faster. I really did. He got his win,
Speaker 3: but it really wasn't his. It was the team's win.
Speaker 3: The defense went out, played lights out, special teams made
Speaker 3: a huge play for them. Against Tennessee. He collects his
Speaker 3: first win his second game.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no better.
Speaker 3: They lose a game that they had a chance to win.
Speaker 3: But then since then, he's played very well. He's gotten
Speaker 3: better progressively, and I think a big part of it
Speaker 3: has to do with the fact that I believe they've
Speaker 3: learned how to coach him. And by that I mean
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a formula that people have
Speaker 3: talked about the best way to handle a rookie, and
Speaker 3: that is make sure you have a good running game. Okay,
Speaker 3: that takes a lot of pressure off him, It makes
Speaker 3: for a better play action, which is a good friend
Speaker 3: to a young quarterback. And then get get the ball
Speaker 3: out of his hands with quick throws. Okay, so again,
Speaker 3: protect him, get the ball out of his hands. With
Speaker 3: quick throws, run the football, okay, and then use play action.
Speaker 4: Well, when you.
Speaker 3: Look at it and some of these numbers are you
Speaker 3: know that I have. I've been tracking it the whole year, okay,
Speaker 3: and you look at this thing, and this is what's interesting.
Speaker 1: Daniels Jayden.
Speaker 3: He gets the ball out of his hands two point
Speaker 3: six seconds from snap to release, two points seconds. It's
Speaker 3: the fastest in the league. The league averages at two
Speaker 3: point seventy nine. Caleb Williams is at two point eight zero,
Speaker 3: so he's right around the average, but he's getting this
Speaker 3: out of his hands quickly. And it's been really cool
Speaker 3: to see because of certain things. But the one element
Speaker 3: that both these young quarterbacks have that helps them is
Speaker 3: their ability to run. Okay, Because they run the ball
Speaker 3: and because they can extend plays, a lot more teams
Speaker 3: are playing zone against them as opposed to man. Okay,
Speaker 3: Caleb got a lot of man early on. They got
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure against him early on. But because
Speaker 3: he's able to tuck the ball and run and either
Speaker 3: extend the play thrill the ball downfield. Because both these
Speaker 3: guys are playing with their eyes downfield or just run it,
Speaker 3: teams are saying man we gotta play zone. We got
Speaker 3: to keep our eyes on the quarterback. And because of that,
Speaker 3: their separation for the receivers has been really good. Both
Speaker 3: Daniels and Williams have three point eight receiver separation, where
Speaker 3: the average is three point five. So well, that's not
Speaker 3: that big. Well, actually it is, you know, because again,
Speaker 3: just being a step or two away from a defender
Speaker 3: gives what looks like a big target for the quarterback.
Speaker 3: And these guys have learned to throw the ball away
Speaker 3: from the leverage. So if I got a defender on
Speaker 3: my left, they throw the ball to the receiver's right.
Speaker 3: So these guys are very good at that already. So
Speaker 3: that's another thing that's been helping these guys an awful lot.
Speaker 3: And then you know, you go to you go to
Speaker 3: the play action, Okay, and when you look at it,
Speaker 3: for the most part, Daniels, they're using his completion percentage
Speaker 3: seventy six point one, league averages sixty seven point one.
Speaker 3: Caleb's at sixty two point eight. But again they're both
Speaker 3: around well, one's above average and ones just slightly below.
Speaker 3: That's just telling you. Play action has been big for
Speaker 3: both these guys, but biggest for Jayden and with his
Speaker 3: completion rate. So that's another big plus that's been going
Speaker 3: on with the development of this young quarterback.
Speaker 1: It seems like coaching I was watching them, you can
Speaker 1: look at that there's differences. Obviously, I did think Jayden
Speaker 1: would be a little bit ahead early on, just played
Speaker 1: so much more football than Caleb had. I think that
Speaker 1: was helped him get off to a little bit of
Speaker 1: a faster start.
Speaker 3: Jag, that's an amazing That's an amazing comment and fact
Speaker 3: that you made, because when we were looking at these
Speaker 3: guys coming out of college football, one of the things
Speaker 3: we talked about was the fact that you know, Jaden's
Speaker 3: bounced around, He's played in four different offenses, and he's
Speaker 3: played for five years. Yeah, because of the COVID year,
Speaker 3: he took advantage of that. Caleb has been in the
Speaker 3: same offense throughout his entire college career, has been very
Speaker 3: successful in the same offense. So what was interesting was
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with Cliff Kingsbury one time. I
Speaker 3: said to Cliff, I said, what did you do to
Speaker 3: help Jayden so much? And he said, well, Coach, one
Speaker 3: of the things that we did was, you know, we
Speaker 3: reached out, We talked to those folks at LSU and said, hey,
Speaker 3: what are some of the best things he did? You know,
Speaker 3: what can we see on tape? What should we be
Speaker 3: looking for? And they looked at those things and they've
Speaker 3: taken that and they've incorporated into what Cliff does. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's brilliant about what Cliff Kingsbury has done giving his
Speaker 3: quarterback the best. You know, a situation now, when we
Speaker 3: drafted Cam Newton number one. You know, kudos to Mike
Speaker 3: Shula and Rob Shazzisky. They go down to Auburn and
Speaker 3: did the same thing. They went out and they said, hey,
Speaker 3: let's find out what he does best. Let's take it.
Speaker 3: And this incorporated to what we want to do. And
Speaker 3: we had that in our offense for the entire time
Speaker 3: Cam was there, and his success was undeniable. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was the NFL Offensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 4: I mean he was the.
Speaker 3: MVP because of those situations, because our coaches took the
Speaker 3: time to find out what does he do best, didn't
Speaker 3: try to force him to do something he's.
Speaker 1: Not good at. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think when you
Speaker 1: also watch it, coach, if you talk about the ball
Speaker 1: getting out of your hands quick, it feels like when
Speaker 1: you're just going through these games inside the pocket, hey
Speaker 1: balls out and they're using that orbit motion what Cliff's
Speaker 1: doing an awesome job with all the orbit motion stuff.
Speaker 1: The Bears really started doing a little bit more of
Speaker 1: that where you've got like an RPO, you've got to give,
Speaker 1: you've got the orbit and then they even had a
Speaker 1: tunnel coming inside of it. So I mean, you've got
Speaker 1: three options there, none of which are very difficult. So
Speaker 1: it was like quick inside the pocket, and then if
Speaker 1: we want to push and we want to stress the
Speaker 1: ball down the field, now we can use the athletes here,
Speaker 1: get them out outside the pocket. You've really you've cut
Speaker 1: the field in half and now they've got options to
Speaker 1: run or they can maybe get some shots. But not
Speaker 1: asking these guys to sit back there. We're not taking
Speaker 1: seven step drops and asking these guys to live inside
Speaker 1: the pocket and read this thing all the way out.
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy about that, though, is if you
Speaker 3: get a young quarterback that has that ability, and I
Speaker 3: think Jayden has a little bit of that. I think
Speaker 3: Caleb has the ability to do it as well. But
Speaker 3: when you have that opportunity to take a seven step drop,
Speaker 3: take the snap and just back up and look at
Speaker 3: the field and if you want to make that quick throw,
Speaker 3: you can. But if you have time, or you can
Speaker 3: create time by extending to play with your own ability
Speaker 3: without it being called to move the pocket and find
Speaker 3: those guys down. So you've seen that, and you've seen
Speaker 3: it a couple times, and his obvious target has been
Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin, who really has been really big for him.
Speaker 3: He really has. And that's one of the things that
Speaker 3: has been very impressive too, is just his ability to
Speaker 3: extend plays and then create off the move.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, And I think the thread line with
Speaker 1: these guys has been poised. And I thought early in
Speaker 1: the season you mentioned it, Caleb got heated up. They
Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball, they weren't protecting, they weren't communicating
Speaker 1: up front. He was getting hit a bunch. And if
Speaker 1: you when you go through those games, there's misses, they
Speaker 1: weren't huge misses. And that's why I was hopeful with
Speaker 1: Caleb Man. Jayden's playing great and people are killing Caleb.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you watch it, he's getting drilled and
Speaker 1: they're just small misses. I'm like, if they can just
Speaker 1: get a little bit more on the same page, a
Speaker 1: little more protection, take a little pressure off, or run
Speaker 1: the ball. And then when you have some success, coach,
Speaker 1: it's like basketball, man, you see the ball go through
Speaker 1: the hoop all of a sudden, Now you get a
Speaker 1: little more confident. Well.
Speaker 3: And one of the things that you know, when you
Speaker 3: want to credit the Bears, you know you have to
Speaker 3: look at the defense because one of the things the
Speaker 3: Bears are doing is they're taking the ball away at
Speaker 3: a tremendous rate right now, and not only taking it away,
Speaker 3: but they're putting it in scoring position. So Caleb has
Speaker 3: that benefit of being able to use a shorter feel.
Speaker 3: Now he's taken advantage it. They've taken advantage as an offense,
Speaker 3: and they're scoring points. When you watch Jaden, and this
Speaker 3: is where people talk about, you know, who could be
Speaker 3: the rookie of the year. And I thought Caleb would
Speaker 3: be in the lead right now. I was wrong. Jaden
Speaker 3: has really stepped up. Initially, he's in the lead, but
Speaker 3: he can also be considered as somebody to talk about
Speaker 3: as league MVP or offensive MVP. And the reason I
Speaker 3: said is because not only is he playing well in
Speaker 3: the offense, but he is lifting the play of his defense,
Speaker 3: you know, getting the leads like they've had early in games.
Speaker 3: The defense has been able to cut loose and really
Speaker 3: go out and make plays and make things happen. So
Speaker 3: I see that for Jaden, and on the other side,
Speaker 3: I see Caleb. He being lifted by his defense. So
Speaker 3: you're getting two different dynamics. But it's, you know, really
Speaker 3: what you expect from from from a rookie quarterback as
Speaker 3: far as Caleb is, and that is to rely on
Speaker 3: his defense. But Jayden raising the play of their defense,
Speaker 3: that's pretty special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt and quickly coached on bow knicks. And
Speaker 1: it's a different situation where he is right now. I
Speaker 1: was curious with him and Sean. Everybody had said, oh,
Speaker 1: he's got his Drew Brees, and I'm like, well, he's not. Fully,
Speaker 1: he's obviously not going to compare him to Drew, but
Speaker 1: he's got some Taysom Hill to him as much as
Speaker 1: maybe he does kind of Drew to him. So they're
Speaker 1: moving him around. I was at that called the Charger game,
Speaker 1: uh this last week and saw him live. In the
Speaker 1: first three quarters, they could not I mean, they didn't
Speaker 1: do anything. They could not move the ball at all
Speaker 1: and then the fourth quarter he had a little magic
Speaker 1: where he was running around. But it's not it's not
Speaker 1: as as smooth as sailing as we've seen with the
Speaker 1: other two guys. No, it's not.
Speaker 3: And it's been pretty tough. And I will say this
Speaker 3: so and and again credit to to to what they're
Speaker 3: doing on offense because because I really do think that
Speaker 3: he's going to be a really good quarterback. And I
Speaker 3: think Sean's going to figure out how to how to
Speaker 3: incorporate his ability to move within the pocket, because you're right,
Speaker 3: when that young man was moving, he was making things
Speaker 3: happen downfield, he really hasn't. Again, as he continues to
Speaker 3: grow and develop as a young player, we're going to
Speaker 3: see a lot of positive things come from his growth
Speaker 3: and development.
Speaker 1: Well. And no doubt, one last thing, Coach before I
Speaker 1: let you go, you talked about Cam. We've always used
Speaker 1: the word hope, man, like you could be a franchise
Speaker 1: and you can be maybe drifting or going one way
Speaker 1: or the other. But man, when you hit on the
Speaker 1: young quarterback, what type of hope? What type of energy
Speaker 1: does that give not only to downstairs, but really throughout
Speaker 1: the whole building in the whole city of a fan base.
Speaker 1: We got our guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be honest that if I spent four
Speaker 3: years in Washington looking for a guy, you know, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 3: You know, Alex Smith was a guy and unfortunately had
Speaker 3: the leg injury. Those are the kind of guys you
Speaker 3: want to find because they're smart, they're athletic, they've got
Speaker 3: great arms, they make great decisions, they can protect a ball,
Speaker 3: they can make plays when you need them to make plays.
Speaker 3: And when you have that guy, everybody always believes you
Speaker 3: have a chance. Like you said, you have hope, and
Speaker 3: that's really important because in that building, hope is a
Speaker 3: very powerful thing. On the field, it's even more powerful
Speaker 3: because if you have a chance to win and you
Speaker 3: believe you have a chance to win, you're gonna win.
Speaker 3: I mean, so when we got Cam we saw glimpses
Speaker 3: of it from the very first game. He throws for
Speaker 3: over four hundred yards his first two games. It was phenomenal,
Speaker 3: and our players started to buy in and believe. The
Speaker 3: next year we improved, we got better, and then our
Speaker 3: third years when we won the division, and then we
Speaker 3: win three straight divisions and go to a super Bowl,
Speaker 3: all because of what was created by the hope of
Speaker 3: having that quarterback, having your guy. This is a quarterback
Speaker 3: driven league. Everything starts with your quarterback. You have a
Speaker 3: guy that can be a game manager, can also be
Speaker 3: a guy that needs to make plays when you need
Speaker 3: to have them make plays, and can protect the ball.
Speaker 3: That's going to give you every opportunity and more importantly,
Speaker 3: like you said, hope to win football.
Speaker 1: Games, Well, that is absolutely one hundred percent of the case.
Speaker 1: And you saw it firsthand. Coach, You've been generous with
Speaker 1: your time today. It's great to have you as a
Speaker 1: teammate here at NFL Network, and hopefully we can do
Speaker 1: this again soon down the road.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We'll be right back after this, all right, Buck,
Speaker 1: It's always great to catch up with Coach Rivera and
Speaker 1: and you know, we use that word that you and
Speaker 1: I have used a million times, hope. Right, you get
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you hit on them. It just provides so
Speaker 1: much hope and energy to the entire organization.
Speaker 4: It does. It gives you an opportunity to build it
Speaker 4: the right way.
Speaker 2: We talk about the league being a quarterback driven league,
Speaker 2: and if you have a young quarterback, we can talk
Speaker 2: about all the posities when it comes to the Savard cap,
Speaker 2: But it's about position for a decade and being able
Speaker 2: to have that security knowing that you have the right
Speaker 2: guy to lead your franchise. You can build it, tear
Speaker 2: it down, rebuild it because as the quarterback is transitioning
Speaker 2: from manager to playmaker, he can help you sustain it
Speaker 2: when you have to kind of turn the roster over
Speaker 2: once you commit to the big payday.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think it's what every general manager,
Speaker 2: what every head coach is looking for.
Speaker 4: You're looking for that QB one. It has elite potential.
Speaker 1: He talked about with Caleb. He thought the coaching staff
Speaker 1: had learned more how to coach and how to use
Speaker 1: him after some time with him. What did you see
Speaker 1: in studying them in the lead up to your game
Speaker 1: last week versus what you saw live in person there
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville first.
Speaker 2: Three games, it appeared that, you know, the Bears are
Speaker 2: trying to have him run their system. They were trying
Speaker 2: to kind of put him I won't see in a box,
Speaker 2: but they're trying to make him play traditional NFL quarterback,
Speaker 2: and Kayley Williams is not a traditional NFL quarterback. He
Speaker 2: has the ability to do a bunch of that stuff.
Speaker 2: But he also has some added dimensions to his game
Speaker 2: that you want to unlock and really utilize to take
Speaker 2: your offense to another level. What I'm seeing now is
Speaker 2: looking he always he already talked about. They simplified it,
Speaker 2: They lightened the load a little bit. They made it very,
Speaker 2: very easy for him. The one thing that they're doing
Speaker 2: I think more teams should do DJ playing with tempo.
Speaker 2: The conversation that we had about the college game with
Speaker 2: Lane Kippen and Lincoln Riley and how when you have
Speaker 2: the headset staying on the fifth teen seconds, Well that's
Speaker 2: what the Bears are doing.
Speaker 4: They get it going.
Speaker 2: They get you to the line of scrimmage, and it's
Speaker 2: all the processing of information with the assistance of the
Speaker 2: mentor in your ear being like, hey, here's what.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Remind it look left to right. This is what we have. Oh,
Speaker 2: it looks like they're and just look whatever. He's playing
Speaker 2: really well. He's very confident. And they haven't even unlocked
Speaker 2: the weapons yet because there's a lot of swing passes
Speaker 2: to Smith. Cole Komet was the playmaker of the day
Speaker 2: in and Allen DJ Moore have relatively quiet days. Man,
Speaker 2: If they ever figure out how to get all of
Speaker 2: the weapons going at one time, the Bears offense is.
Speaker 4: Going to be unlike any that we've seen in the
Speaker 4: Windy City.
Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting when you have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: especially a young quarterback, when you can run it a
Speaker 1: little bit and have a little protection, they look a
Speaker 1: little different. You got to give those guys around them
Speaker 1: a lot of credit there.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing we've always talked about.
Speaker 2: The running game just creates so many different things in
Speaker 2: terms of just being able to clear the pitchure up
Speaker 2: for the quarterback and then DJ tempo empty package.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not hard.
Speaker 2: I feel like we've been saying the same old song
Speaker 2: for fifteen years, like let's go empty, let's see where
Speaker 2: it is, let's motion the guy into the backfield manor zone.
Speaker 1: Now let's make the play.
Speaker 4: We're on the clock so I can talk to him.
Speaker 1: It is formula, tried and true. It works.
Speaker 4: I mean, it always works.
Speaker 1: It's time for Hot or Not, brought to you by
Speaker 1: with Sabi. So looking for somebody who's hot and somebody
Speaker 1: who's not. I'll give me somebody who's hot. And that's
Speaker 1: say Flowers, seeing him continue to evolve and grow inside
Speaker 1: that offense there in Baltimore. I use the comp you know,
Speaker 1: he's not as you know, he's not Steve Smith, but
Speaker 1: he has a little bit of Steve's kind of DNA
Speaker 1: in him in terms of he plays bigger than he
Speaker 1: is and he is just dynamic getting in and out
Speaker 1: of breaks. Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's dynamic. Man, he can get in and out
Speaker 4: of breaks. He asks.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this, man, because I was skeptical
Speaker 2: of this offense and how they incorporate all the many
Speaker 2: pieces that they had Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Jay Flowers,
Speaker 2: who's emerged, Isaiah Likely, Mark and all of this stuff,
Speaker 2: and say Flowers is so good and the fact that
Speaker 2: they're able to have a one hundred year rusher, one
Speaker 2: hundred yard pass receiver.
Speaker 4: They got other compliments to it. Braver's gonna be there, man.
Speaker 2: They're built for this, and I know they got to
Speaker 2: answer their postseason woes, but man, their offense is dynamic,
Speaker 2: is explosive, and it's really humming right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Nine for a buck thirty two for Jay Flowers,
Speaker 1: who's in a nice little run right now. How about yourself, Buck,
Speaker 1: Who do you like? Who do I like?
Speaker 2: I love what Will Anderson is doing for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2: I mean he's playing great. I mean he's just talking
Speaker 2: about being a dominant player. Three sacks at eight tackles,
Speaker 2: dominated the game. You're talking about a guy coming on
Speaker 2: the heels of a defensive Rookie of the Year award
Speaker 2: and he just continues.
Speaker 4: To get better.
Speaker 2: And what I like about Will Anderson is just the
Speaker 2: way that he represents the franchise.
Speaker 4: Dimiko Riinas has not been afraid to put a lot
Speaker 4: on him. He and CJ. Stroud are what the faces
Speaker 4: of that team.
Speaker 2: And even though they brought terans around him to Neil
Speaker 2: Hunter and those guys, look, it's clear and a parent
Speaker 2: who's the number one pass rush, number one defensive playmaker
Speaker 2: is they're leaning on him to make those plays and
Speaker 2: he stepped up.
Speaker 1: He was up to the challenge this weekend. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: he was awesome. It's been fun to watch him and
Speaker 1: a team. By the way, if we were I mean,
Speaker 1: we could do this another episode. But if you're drafting,
Speaker 1: we talked about this when you were gone. If you
Speaker 1: were drafting contenders right now and Houston. You're not waiting
Speaker 1: long before they come off the board.
Speaker 4: Now they're coming.
Speaker 2: They're coming off the board because they have arguably the
Speaker 2: most complete offense. When Joe Mixon is healthy and Joe
Speaker 2: Mixing and Damian Pierce are playing well, their running game
Speaker 2: is formidable because they hit you between the tackles, and
Speaker 2: then when Stepan Diggs and nic O'Collins and Tank deal,
Speaker 2: they can get at you a few different ways, with
Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz also being a playmaker.
Speaker 4: Really good offense quarterback is spectacular.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, man, the end of the list of contenders,
Speaker 2: because we didn't even really spend a lot of time
Speaker 2: talking about their defense, even though we started the segment
Speaker 2: talking about Will Anderson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they've been excellent, really a complete football team.
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Speaker 1: buck uh, safe travels, man. You got a high school
Speaker 1: game Friday night, then you're out Saturday.
Speaker 4: Morning, Saturday morning, right and early?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm I'm I'm bummed you don't get
Speaker 1: to lay down on that flight, but hopefully.
Speaker 4: I am too. I mean, if you want to if
Speaker 4: you want to stand Uh are you?
Speaker 1: Are you a get up? Are you a get up?
Speaker 1: And just like walk down the aisles. That's a long flight.
Speaker 1: You got to move around. Man.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I'm like Russell Wilson. I'm doing my
Speaker 2: high knees on the plane. I'm nice, trying to make
Speaker 2: sure I break it drops in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, into do my stuff. I may even wear my helmet.
Speaker 4: I may even wear my helmet A kind of dude.
Speaker 4: Oh for Russell Wilson deal.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Russell Wilson, we'll have more UH later in
Speaker 1: the week on what that looks like for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 1: UH and UH in their upcoming game against the New
Speaker 1: York Jets, two teams that are going to be heavily
Speaker 1: in the news as we head up towards that ball game.
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us today. I
Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed it. Appreciate with Rivera for coming on.
Speaker 1: Just a really good dude. Enjoyed that conversation. We'll see
Speaker 1: you next time right here on. Move the sticks, m