1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. Dj Buck 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: back with you, Buck. What's going on man? Not too much, Djay. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Middle of the week, trying to get ready hump Day, 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: trying to get on the other side to get to 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: another exciting football weekend. 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to a fun weekend of football. We 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: are going to run a conversation I had yesterday with 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: our colleague at the NFL Media Group, Coach Ron rivera 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: those that don't know, Coach rivera former head coach of 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Commanders, played for Chicago Bears. Really 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: highly respected around the league, not only as someone was 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: a good player and a really good coach, but someone 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: who was really the highest character who's just very well 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: regarded for how he treats people and his leadership ability. 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: I had a chance to visit with him Buck really 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: right on the heels of the trade with the Jets 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: acquiring DeVante Adams, so we have a chance to discuss that, 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: as well as his thoughts on the rookie quarterbacks, including 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: one he could have used in Washington when he was there. 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: In Jaydeen Daniels. So, without further ado, here's my conversation 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: with Ron RIVERA well coach. He appreciates taking the time 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: for us today. I guess it's fortuitous that we're going 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: to have you on and we get a big in 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: season trade, which we don't see a lot of in 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: the NFL. But just a first reaction when you heard 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: the news DeVante Adams no longer Raider, he's going to 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: rejoin Aaron Rodgers. 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: Well, my first thought was good for New York. Honestly, 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: I really did think that, you know, Aaron Rodgers is 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: going to have somebody's very comfortable with, a guy that 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: already knows and knows his mindset as to what he 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: wants to do with wide receivers, how he wants to 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: use them, what he expects of them. But I also 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: think this is a guy that's going to help their 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: football team more so anything else. I believe that. I 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: believe the offense will get better. I think what will 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: happen is Aaron will play with more confidence. He'll also 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: play knowing that he's got his safety, his safety valve, 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: he's got a guy that's very familiar with him. And 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: then I think he's also going to know that DeVante's 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: going to help that young room of receivers. He's going 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: to help those guys grow and develop and be better 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: football players just by example that he's going to set. 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: It's going to help the running game as well, because 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: the running game will not have to face as many 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: eight men boxes. I think it'll also help the offensive 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: line because there are some quick throws that he makes 49 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: to DeVante that's going to get the ball out of 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: the quarterback's hands. The offensive line is not going to 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: have to sit there and try and protect as long 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: as he's had to, So I think that's the plus 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: as far as the offense concerned. Defensively, it'll help them 54 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: as well. Why because I think on some of them 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: third downs, the drivers are going to be extended. They'll 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: spend fewer plays on the field, the offense will handle 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: the ball a little bit longer, and I think eat 58 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: up a little bit more clock. I think overall this 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: is a good thing for the New York Jets as 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: far as the Raiders are concerned. I think now the 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: players won't have to deal with the question of, Hey, 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: when's DeVante coming back or does he really want to 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: get traded? That distraction is gone. I mean, so let's 64 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: be honest about that as far as that'll be a 65 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: plus for the Raiders. Plus they get a third round 66 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: pick that could become a second based on a couple 67 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: of things happening. 68 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I always look at it from a team building side coach, 69 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: and I've always said, I think it's important that you 70 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: know what window that you're in. You know, are you 71 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: in your win now window or is your window in 72 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: the future. And understanding that from the Raiders, I thought 73 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: it made a lot of sense. I mean, they're not 74 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: ready right now, they need a quarterback. Their window is 75 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: often the future, whereas the Jets with Aaron's age, I 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: think you could say, man, that window is it's open, 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: but man, it's closing quickly. So I thought from a 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: windows standpoint, you can make an argument this was a 79 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: no brainer for both of these teams. 80 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: Most certainly a no brainer because again, the Jets are 81 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: in that win now mode. You see it based on 82 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: the fact that they have Aaron Rodgers out on the 83 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: football field. They try to, you know, spend some money 84 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: to protect him, and now they spend some money to 85 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: get him his pass catcher and that's a big move and. 86 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: For the Raiders. You're absolutely right. 87 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: It's a young football team with a young head coach 88 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: that's going to go through some growing pains. But why 89 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: not take the time, Why not go ahead and see 90 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: if we can get as much of this draft capital 91 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: as we can get this currency that we need to 92 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: be able to build this team and get into a 93 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: great position. If you look at what happened for the Bears, 94 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: look what happened for the Commanders. You know, these are 95 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: teams that had a lot of draft capital to come 96 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: into this past draft, and they were able to not 97 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: only get their quarterbacks of the future as we're starting 98 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: to see, but they were also able to get them 99 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: some offensive weapons. 100 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: And you led me right there. That's where I wanted 101 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: to go next, because what we're seeing right now with 102 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: these rooky quarterbacks, not only the performance, but in the 103 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: teams they're having success now Drake may Will put him 104 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: off to the side. He got his first start the 105 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: other day. Spencer Rattler as well. But let's focus on 106 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: the guys that the three guys that have played a 107 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: lot this year, starting from the jump with Jayde Daniels 108 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams specifically, let's start with those two. We'll 109 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: get the bow Nicks in a minute. But the team's 110 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: success to go along with the individual success. What's been 111 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: most impressive there from you? 112 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: Well, I'll be honest, I thought Caleb would start off 113 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: a lot faster. I really did. He got his win, 114 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: but it really wasn't his. It was the team's win. 115 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: The defense went out, played lights out, special teams made 116 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: a huge play for them. Against Tennessee. He collects his 117 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: first win his second game. 118 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: It wasn't no better. 119 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: They lose a game that they had a chance to win. 120 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 3: But then since then, he's played very well. He's gotten 121 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: better progressively, and I think a big part of it 122 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: has to do with the fact that I believe they've 123 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: learned how to coach him. And by that I mean 124 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a formula that people have 125 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: talked about the best way to handle a rookie, and 126 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: that is make sure you have a good running game. Okay, 127 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: that takes a lot of pressure off him, It makes 128 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: for a better play action, which is a good friend 129 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: to a young quarterback. And then get get the ball 130 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: out of his hands with quick throws. Okay, so again, 131 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: protect him, get the ball out of his hands. With 132 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: quick throws, run the football, okay, and then use play action. 133 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: Well, when you. 134 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: Look at it and some of these numbers are you 135 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 3: know that I have. I've been tracking it the whole year, okay, 136 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: and you look at this thing, and this is what's interesting. 137 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Daniels Jayden. 138 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: He gets the ball out of his hands two point 139 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: six seconds from snap to release, two points seconds. It's 140 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: the fastest in the league. The league averages at two 141 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: point seventy nine. Caleb Williams is at two point eight zero, 142 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: so he's right around the average, but he's getting this 143 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: out of his hands quickly. And it's been really cool 144 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: to see because of certain things. But the one element 145 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: that both these young quarterbacks have that helps them is 146 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: their ability to run. Okay, Because they run the ball 147 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: and because they can extend plays, a lot more teams 148 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: are playing zone against them as opposed to man. Okay, 149 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 3: Caleb got a lot of man early on. They got 150 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure against him early on. But because 151 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: he's able to tuck the ball and run and either 152 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: extend the play thrill the ball downfield. Because both these 153 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: guys are playing with their eyes downfield or just run it, 154 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: teams are saying man we gotta play zone. We got 155 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: to keep our eyes on the quarterback. And because of that, 156 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: their separation for the receivers has been really good. Both 157 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: Daniels and Williams have three point eight receiver separation, where 158 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: the average is three point five. So well, that's not 159 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 3: that big. Well, actually it is, you know, because again, 160 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: just being a step or two away from a defender 161 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: gives what looks like a big target for the quarterback. 162 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: And these guys have learned to throw the ball away 163 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: from the leverage. So if I got a defender on 164 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: my left, they throw the ball to the receiver's right. 165 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: So these guys are very good at that already. So 166 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: that's another thing that's been helping these guys an awful lot. 167 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: And then you know, you go to you go to 168 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: the play action, Okay, and when you look at it, 169 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: for the most part, Daniels, they're using his completion percentage 170 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: seventy six point one, league averages sixty seven point one. 171 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: Caleb's at sixty two point eight. But again they're both 172 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: around well, one's above average and ones just slightly below. 173 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: That's just telling you. Play action has been big for 174 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: both these guys, but biggest for Jayden and with his 175 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: completion rate. So that's another big plus that's been going 176 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: on with the development of this young quarterback. 177 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: It seems like coaching I was watching them, you can 178 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: look at that there's differences. Obviously, I did think Jayden 179 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: would be a little bit ahead early on, just played 180 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: so much more football than Caleb had. I think that 181 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: was helped him get off to a little bit of 182 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: a faster start. 183 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: Jag, that's an amazing That's an amazing comment and fact 184 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: that you made, because when we were looking at these 185 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: guys coming out of college football, one of the things 186 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: we talked about was the fact that you know, Jaden's 187 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: bounced around, He's played in four different offenses, and he's 188 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: played for five years. Yeah, because of the COVID year, 189 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: he took advantage of that. Caleb has been in the 190 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: same offense throughout his entire college career, has been very 191 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: successful in the same offense. So what was interesting was 192 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: I had a conversation with Cliff Kingsbury one time. I 193 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: said to Cliff, I said, what did you do to 194 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: help Jayden so much? And he said, well, Coach, one 195 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: of the things that we did was, you know, we 196 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: reached out, We talked to those folks at LSU and said, hey, 197 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: what are some of the best things he did? You know, 198 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: what can we see on tape? What should we be 199 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: looking for? And they looked at those things and they've 200 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: taken that and they've incorporated into what Cliff does. I mean, 201 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: it's brilliant about what Cliff Kingsbury has done giving his 202 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: quarterback the best. You know, a situation now, when we 203 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: drafted Cam Newton number one. You know, kudos to Mike 204 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: Shula and Rob Shazzisky. They go down to Auburn and 205 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: did the same thing. They went out and they said, hey, 206 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: let's find out what he does best. Let's take it. 207 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: And this incorporated to what we want to do. And 208 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: we had that in our offense for the entire time 209 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: Cam was there, and his success was undeniable. I mean, 210 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: he was the NFL Offensive Player of the Year. 211 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: I mean he was the. 212 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: MVP because of those situations, because our coaches took the 213 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: time to find out what does he do best, didn't 214 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: try to force him to do something he's. 215 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Not good at. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think when you 216 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: also watch it, coach, if you talk about the ball 217 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: getting out of your hands quick, it feels like when 218 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: you're just going through these games inside the pocket, hey 219 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: balls out and they're using that orbit motion what Cliff's 220 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: doing an awesome job with all the orbit motion stuff. 221 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: The Bears really started doing a little bit more of 222 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: that where you've got like an RPO, you've got to give, 223 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: you've got the orbit and then they even had a 224 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: tunnel coming inside of it. So I mean, you've got 225 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: three options there, none of which are very difficult. So 226 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: it was like quick inside the pocket, and then if 227 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: we want to push and we want to stress the 228 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: ball down the field, now we can use the athletes here, 229 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: get them out outside the pocket. You've really you've cut 230 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: the field in half and now they've got options to 231 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: run or they can maybe get some shots. But not 232 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: asking these guys to sit back there. We're not taking 233 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: seven step drops and asking these guys to live inside 234 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: the pocket and read this thing all the way out. 235 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy about that, though, is if you 236 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: get a young quarterback that has that ability, and I 237 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: think Jayden has a little bit of that. I think 238 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: Caleb has the ability to do it as well. But 239 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: when you have that opportunity to take a seven step drop, 240 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: take the snap and just back up and look at 241 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: the field and if you want to make that quick throw, 242 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: you can. But if you have time, or you can 243 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: create time by extending to play with your own ability 244 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: without it being called to move the pocket and find 245 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: those guys down. So you've seen that, and you've seen 246 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: it a couple times, and his obvious target has been 247 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin, who really has been really big for him. 248 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: He really has. And that's one of the things that 249 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: has been very impressive too, is just his ability to 250 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: extend plays and then create off the move. 251 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, And I think the thread line with 252 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: these guys has been poised. And I thought early in 253 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: the season you mentioned it, Caleb got heated up. They 254 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball, they weren't protecting, they weren't communicating 255 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: up front. He was getting hit a bunch. And if 256 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: you when you go through those games, there's misses, they 257 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: weren't huge misses. And that's why I was hopeful with 258 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: Caleb Man. Jayden's playing great and people are killing Caleb. 259 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you watch it, he's getting drilled and 260 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: they're just small misses. I'm like, if they can just 261 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: get a little bit more on the same page, a 262 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: little more protection, take a little pressure off, or run 263 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: the ball. And then when you have some success, coach, 264 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: it's like basketball, man, you see the ball go through 265 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: the hoop all of a sudden, Now you get a 266 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: little more confident. Well. 267 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: And one of the things that you know, when you 268 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: want to credit the Bears, you know you have to 269 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: look at the defense because one of the things the 270 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 3: Bears are doing is they're taking the ball away at 271 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 3: a tremendous rate right now, and not only taking it away, 272 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: but they're putting it in scoring position. So Caleb has 273 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: that benefit of being able to use a shorter feel. 274 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: Now he's taken advantage it. They've taken advantage as an offense, 275 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: and they're scoring points. When you watch Jaden, and this 276 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: is where people talk about, you know, who could be 277 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: the rookie of the year. And I thought Caleb would 278 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: be in the lead right now. I was wrong. Jaden 279 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: has really stepped up. Initially, he's in the lead, but 280 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: he can also be considered as somebody to talk about 281 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: as league MVP or offensive MVP. And the reason I 282 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: said is because not only is he playing well in 283 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: the offense, but he is lifting the play of his defense, 284 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: you know, getting the leads like they've had early in games. 285 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 3: The defense has been able to cut loose and really 286 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: go out and make plays and make things happen. So 287 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: I see that for Jaden, and on the other side, 288 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: I see Caleb. He being lifted by his defense. So 289 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: you're getting two different dynamics. But it's, you know, really 290 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: what you expect from from from a rookie quarterback as 291 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: far as Caleb is, and that is to rely on 292 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: his defense. But Jayden raising the play of their defense, 293 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: that's pretty special. 294 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt and quickly coached on bow knicks. And 295 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: it's a different situation where he is right now. I 296 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: was curious with him and Sean. Everybody had said, oh, 297 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: he's got his Drew Brees, and I'm like, well, he's not. Fully, 298 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: he's obviously not going to compare him to Drew, but 299 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: he's got some Taysom Hill to him as much as 300 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: maybe he does kind of Drew to him. So they're 301 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: moving him around. I was at that called the Charger game, 302 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: uh this last week and saw him live. In the 303 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: first three quarters, they could not I mean, they didn't 304 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: do anything. They could not move the ball at all 305 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: and then the fourth quarter he had a little magic 306 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: where he was running around. But it's not it's not 307 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: as as smooth as sailing as we've seen with the 308 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: other two guys. No, it's not. 309 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: And it's been pretty tough. And I will say this 310 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: so and and again credit to to to what they're 311 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: doing on offense because because I really do think that 312 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: he's going to be a really good quarterback. And I 313 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: think Sean's going to figure out how to how to 314 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: incorporate his ability to move within the pocket, because you're right, 315 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: when that young man was moving, he was making things 316 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: happen downfield, he really hasn't. Again, as he continues to 317 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 3: grow and develop as a young player, we're going to 318 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: see a lot of positive things come from his growth 319 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: and development. 320 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Well. And no doubt, one last thing, Coach before I 321 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: let you go, you talked about Cam. We've always used 322 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: the word hope, man, like you could be a franchise 323 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: and you can be maybe drifting or going one way 324 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: or the other. But man, when you hit on the 325 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: young quarterback, what type of hope? What type of energy 326 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: does that give not only to downstairs, but really throughout 327 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: the whole building in the whole city of a fan base. 328 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: We got our guy. 329 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be honest that if I spent four 330 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: years in Washington looking for a guy, you know, it's unfortunate. 331 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: You know, Alex Smith was a guy and unfortunately had 332 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: the leg injury. Those are the kind of guys you 333 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: want to find because they're smart, they're athletic, they've got 334 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: great arms, they make great decisions, they can protect a ball, 335 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: they can make plays when you need them to make plays. 336 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: And when you have that guy, everybody always believes you 337 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: have a chance. Like you said, you have hope, and 338 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: that's really important because in that building, hope is a 339 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: very powerful thing. On the field, it's even more powerful 340 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: because if you have a chance to win and you 341 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: believe you have a chance to win, you're gonna win. 342 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: I mean, so when we got Cam we saw glimpses 343 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: of it from the very first game. He throws for 344 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: over four hundred yards his first two games. It was phenomenal, 345 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: and our players started to buy in and believe. The 346 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: next year we improved, we got better, and then our 347 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: third years when we won the division, and then we 348 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: win three straight divisions and go to a super Bowl, 349 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: all because of what was created by the hope of 350 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: having that quarterback, having your guy. This is a quarterback 351 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: driven league. Everything starts with your quarterback. You have a 352 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: guy that can be a game manager, can also be 353 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: a guy that needs to make plays when you need 354 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: to have them make plays, and can protect the ball. 355 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: That's going to give you every opportunity and more importantly, 356 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: like you said, hope to win football. 357 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Games, Well, that is absolutely one hundred percent of the case. 358 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: And you saw it firsthand. Coach, You've been generous with 359 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: your time today. It's great to have you as a 360 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: teammate here at NFL Network, and hopefully we can do 361 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: this again soon down the road. 362 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: Now. 363 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We'll be right back after this, all right, Buck, 364 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: It's always great to catch up with Coach Rivera and 365 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: and you know, we use that word that you and 366 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: I have used a million times, hope. Right, you get 367 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback, you hit on them. It just provides so 368 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: much hope and energy to the entire organization. 369 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: It does. It gives you an opportunity to build it 370 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: the right way. 371 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: We talk about the league being a quarterback driven league, 372 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: and if you have a young quarterback, we can talk 373 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: about all the posities when it comes to the Savard cap, 374 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: But it's about position for a decade and being able 375 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: to have that security knowing that you have the right 376 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: guy to lead your franchise. You can build it, tear 377 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: it down, rebuild it because as the quarterback is transitioning 378 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: from manager to playmaker, he can help you sustain it 379 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: when you have to kind of turn the roster over 380 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: once you commit to the big payday. 381 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 382 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think it's what every general manager, 383 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: what every head coach is looking for. 384 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: You're looking for that QB one. It has elite potential. 385 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: He talked about with Caleb. He thought the coaching staff 386 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: had learned more how to coach and how to use 387 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: him after some time with him. What did you see 388 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: in studying them in the lead up to your game 389 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: last week versus what you saw live in person there 390 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville first. 391 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: Three games, it appeared that, you know, the Bears are 392 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: trying to have him run their system. They were trying 393 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: to kind of put him I won't see in a box, 394 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: but they're trying to make him play traditional NFL quarterback, 395 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: and Kayley Williams is not a traditional NFL quarterback. He 396 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: has the ability to do a bunch of that stuff. 397 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: But he also has some added dimensions to his game 398 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: that you want to unlock and really utilize to take 399 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: your offense to another level. What I'm seeing now is 400 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: looking he always he already talked about. They simplified it, 401 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: They lightened the load a little bit. They made it very, 402 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: very easy for him. The one thing that they're doing 403 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: I think more teams should do DJ playing with tempo. 404 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: The conversation that we had about the college game with 405 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: Lane Kippen and Lincoln Riley and how when you have 406 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: the headset staying on the fifth teen seconds, Well that's 407 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 2: what the Bears are doing. 408 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: They get it going. 409 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: They get you to the line of scrimmage, and it's 410 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: all the processing of information with the assistance of the 411 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: mentor in your ear being like, hey, here's what. 412 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: We're gonna do. 413 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: Remind it look left to right. This is what we have. Oh, 414 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: it looks like they're and just look whatever. He's playing 415 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: really well. He's very confident. And they haven't even unlocked 416 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: the weapons yet because there's a lot of swing passes 417 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: to Smith. Cole Komet was the playmaker of the day 418 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: in and Allen DJ Moore have relatively quiet days. Man, 419 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: If they ever figure out how to get all of 420 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: the weapons going at one time, the Bears offense is. 421 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 4: Going to be unlike any that we've seen in the 422 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: Windy City. 423 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting when you have a quarterback, 424 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: especially a young quarterback, when you can run it a 425 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: little bit and have a little protection, they look a 426 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: little different. You got to give those guys around them 427 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: a lot of credit there. 428 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: It's the same thing we've always talked about. 429 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: The running game just creates so many different things in 430 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: terms of just being able to clear the pitchure up 431 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: for the quarterback and then DJ tempo empty package. 432 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not hard. 433 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: I feel like we've been saying the same old song 434 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: for fifteen years, like let's go empty, let's see where 435 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: it is, let's motion the guy into the backfield manor zone. 436 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: Now let's make the play. 437 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: We're on the clock so I can talk to him. 438 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: It is formula, tried and true. It works. 439 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it always works. 440 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: It's time for Hot or Not, brought to you by 441 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: with Sabi. So looking for somebody who's hot and somebody 442 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: who's not. I'll give me somebody who's hot. And that's 443 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: say Flowers, seeing him continue to evolve and grow inside 444 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: that offense there in Baltimore. I use the comp you know, 445 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: he's not as you know, he's not Steve Smith, but 446 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: he has a little bit of Steve's kind of DNA 447 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: in him in terms of he plays bigger than he 448 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: is and he is just dynamic getting in and out 449 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: of breaks. Man. 450 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's dynamic. Man, he can get in and out 451 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: of breaks. He asks. 452 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this, man, because I was skeptical 453 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: of this offense and how they incorporate all the many 454 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: pieces that they had Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Jay Flowers, 455 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: who's emerged, Isaiah Likely, Mark and all of this stuff, 456 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: and say Flowers is so good and the fact that 457 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: they're able to have a one hundred year rusher, one 458 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: hundred yard pass receiver. 459 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: They got other compliments to it. Braver's gonna be there, man. 460 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: They're built for this, and I know they got to 461 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: answer their postseason woes, but man, their offense is dynamic, 462 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: is explosive, and it's really humming right now. 463 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Nine for a buck thirty two for Jay Flowers, 464 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: who's in a nice little run right now. How about yourself, Buck, 465 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: Who do you like? Who do I like? 466 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: I love what Will Anderson is doing for the Houston Texans. 467 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: I mean he's playing great. I mean he's just talking 468 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: about being a dominant player. Three sacks at eight tackles, 469 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: dominated the game. You're talking about a guy coming on 470 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: the heels of a defensive Rookie of the Year award 471 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: and he just continues. 472 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: To get better. 473 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: And what I like about Will Anderson is just the 474 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: way that he represents the franchise. 475 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: Dimiko Riinas has not been afraid to put a lot 476 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 4: on him. He and CJ. Stroud are what the faces 477 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: of that team. 478 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: And even though they brought terans around him to Neil 479 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: Hunter and those guys, look, it's clear and a parent 480 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: who's the number one pass rush, number one defensive playmaker 481 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: is they're leaning on him to make those plays and 482 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: he stepped up. 483 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: He was up to the challenge this weekend. Yeah, I know, 484 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: he was awesome. It's been fun to watch him and 485 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: a team. By the way, if we were I mean, 486 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: we could do this another episode. But if you're drafting, 487 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: we talked about this when you were gone. If you 488 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: were drafting contenders right now and Houston. You're not waiting 489 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: long before they come off the board. 490 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 4: Now they're coming. 491 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: They're coming off the board because they have arguably the 492 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: most complete offense. When Joe Mixon is healthy and Joe 493 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: Mixing and Damian Pierce are playing well, their running game 494 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 2: is formidable because they hit you between the tackles, and 495 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: then when Stepan Diggs and nic O'Collins and Tank deal, 496 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: they can get at you a few different ways, with 497 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz also being a playmaker. 498 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: Really good offense quarterback is spectacular. 499 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, man, the end of the list of contenders, 500 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: because we didn't even really spend a lot of time 501 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: talking about their defense, even though we started the segment 502 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: talking about Will Anderson. 503 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they've been excellent, really a complete football team. 504 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: That was this week's Hot or Not segment, brought to 505 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: you by Wasabi, the world's hottest cloud storage provider. All right, 506 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: buck uh, safe travels, man. You got a high school 507 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: game Friday night, then you're out Saturday. 508 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: Morning, Saturday morning, right and early? 509 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm I'm I'm bummed you don't get 510 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: to lay down on that flight, but hopefully. 511 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: I am too. I mean, if you want to if 512 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: you want to stand Uh are you? 513 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: Are you a get up? Are you a get up? 514 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: And just like walk down the aisles. That's a long flight. 515 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: You got to move around. Man. 516 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I'm like Russell Wilson. I'm doing my 517 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 2: high knees on the plane. I'm nice, trying to make 518 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: sure I break it drops in. 519 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, into do my stuff. I may even wear my helmet. 520 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 4: I may even wear my helmet A kind of dude. 521 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: Oh for Russell Wilson deal. 522 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: Speaking of Russell Wilson, we'll have more UH later in 523 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: the week on what that looks like for the Pittsburgh Steelers, 524 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: UH and UH in their upcoming game against the New 525 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: York Jets, two teams that are going to be heavily 526 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: in the news as we head up towards that ball game. 527 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us today. I 528 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed it. Appreciate with Rivera for coming on. 529 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: Just a really good dude. Enjoyed that conversation. We'll see 530 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: you next time right here on. Move the sticks, m