Speaker 1: You're tuning into service, Johnny, the strict private, first class
Speaker 1: veteran stories of hunger and war. They joined a service.
Speaker 1: Remember perel Harder, Remember Pearl Harbor, a production from My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. We used to just give these people the
Speaker 1: food from our miss kits. You ain't what you could
Speaker 1: get and be thankful. Well what you will get in
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Jacqueline Raposo, And here is they think
Speaker 1: the whole day long, all the markets not so good today.
Speaker 1: From the World War two veterans we've been sitting with
Speaker 1: so far this season, it might be easy to assume
Speaker 1: that everyone struggles during the Great Depression. Have a good question.
Speaker 1: Everybody was the subwar was five cents local breadles cents
Speaker 1: five cents. We had a farmer's during depression, and appreciate
Speaker 1: we never were like from school. We ate a variety
Speaker 1: of fools that people nowadays never heard of, like chicken feet.
Speaker 1: But would that assumption be true. Economists are comparing our
Speaker 1: current income disparity with that of the Great Depression era,
Speaker 1: and so that's what we're exploring today. How much poverty
Speaker 1: or plenty affected how people lived, served and eight during
Speaker 1: World War two and beyond. Today you swift time that
Speaker 1: dropped down Tigre Frank from its song A Tale of
Speaker 1: the Ticker commented on the fragility of the stock market
Speaker 1: and its debut only one month before the crash in October,
Speaker 1: three of the American workforce was unemployed, and those at
Speaker 1: the bottom who kept their jobs. Most of the families
Speaker 1: we've heard from the season saw their income dropped by
Speaker 1: an average of To offset the humility of breadlines, penny
Speaker 1: restaurants helped the hungriest with offerings like soup, bread, coffee,
Speaker 1: and pork and beans for a penny. Apiece at the
Speaker 1: Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York, I meant Julip or
Speaker 1: Tom Collins alone cost sixty five cents. Because this was
Speaker 1: also the era of the Vanderbilts and the Rockefeller's business
Speaker 1: magnets and demansion owners whose income dropped maybe four percent
Speaker 1: during this time, the Gilded Hotel reopened at its Central
Speaker 1: Park location in n throwing charity balls for thousands of
Speaker 1: socialites and hosting eight course dinners for insurance tycoons, with
Speaker 1: courses including sauteed artichokes, a scoffier style filet mignon, and
Speaker 1: frozen chocolate bombs. On top of that, guests of means
Speaker 1: could basically customize any dinner party they wanted. I found
Speaker 1: one patron's letter to Chef Gabrielle to go politely, reflecting
Speaker 1: upon the difficulties of the uncivilized market in his request
Speaker 1: for caviare a piece to resistance of roast duck with
Speaker 1: figs and almonds, dry old sherry and the best of cigars.
Speaker 1: Today we spend time with a Navy lieutenant whose family
Speaker 1: falls intriguingly in the middle of this income disparity, Robert Hansen. Now,
Speaker 1: Robert shared that food is not something he thinks much about,
Speaker 1: and so we're going to track his service story in
Speaker 1: line with the food narratives of his fellow service members.
Speaker 1: And what was happening on the greater stage. Robert's father
Speaker 1: progressed from a blue collar job to becoming a professor,
Speaker 1: and professors at prestigious universities kind of looked out during
Speaker 1: this time. They barely saw a reduction in salary. Tenure
Speaker 1: had just started to have pole and colleges navigating student
Speaker 1: enrollment drops held on to top teachers to impress new recruits.
Speaker 1: Driven home by a huge drop in the cost of living,
Speaker 1: children like Robert grew up in relative comfort. This placed
Speaker 1: him in a fortunate position in late ninety one. But
Speaker 1: as we're learning about this period in history, nothing promises
Speaker 1: smooth sailing when a country goes to war. And so
Speaker 1: now from his home in Wolfboro, New Hampshire, but slow
Speaker 1: and fit, and spend some time with Robert Hansen. My
Speaker 1: name is Robert Hansen, and I was born on a
Speaker 1: very famous day now eight fifteen, nineteen three, the day
Speaker 1: the Japanese surrender. My dad came from a family that
Speaker 1: come to the United States through Nova Scotia. He's a
Speaker 1: very brilliant guy. He went to have a business school
Speaker 1: that he started out in Cambridge, Bath. My mother was
Speaker 1: born in Chicago. There were three boys and three years
Speaker 1: of those family. I saw both stirring the depression. Here
Speaker 1: was my dad a professor at the Harvard Business School
Speaker 1: and m I t at that time Harvard financially and
Speaker 1: everything said about it as wealthy as anybody comes. Mother
Speaker 1: was able to kind of sit back with two days.
Speaker 1: This was almost a fairy tale life. Dad was joy
Speaker 1: so well. And our neighbors, many of them work are
Speaker 1: the edge of Banqueptcy had gone down. Crupp people come
Speaker 1: to the host and tried to figure out if there
Speaker 1: was some way Dad could help. So he devoted a
Speaker 1: lot of his spare time on this because he felt
Speaker 1: so strongly. Most people don't understand how horrible it was.
Speaker 1: As a result, he met a lot of people of
Speaker 1: all kinds coming out of Europe, and some of them
Speaker 1: came off to I was asleep when the explosion came.
Speaker 1: The terrific force pitched me down on the floor. Immediately
Speaker 1: there was a complete black I couldn't see to collect anything,
Speaker 1: not even my life jacket. I just think they remember
Speaker 1: hearing two detonations almost simultaneously. On September three, nine, the
Speaker 1: British passenger ship Athenia left Liverpool heading to Montreal with
Speaker 1: dred passengers, including five hundred Jewish refugees, four hundred plus
Speaker 1: Canadian citizens, and three hundred from the US. That same evening,
Speaker 1: German submarine Youth thirty fire two torpedoes at Athenia, and
Speaker 1: one exploded into her port side at m The following morning,
Speaker 1: Athenia sank Stern. First one hundred and twelve of those
Speaker 1: aboard perished. Britain had declared war on Germany only hours
Speaker 1: before Athenia was hit a response to Hitler's invasion of
Speaker 1: Poland two days before get At the Nurnberg Trials years later,
Speaker 1: the commander of that submarine would say hitting Athenia was
Speaker 1: an honest mistake. Her port windows were dark and she
Speaker 1: was sailing in a suspicious zig zag pattern, and so
Speaker 1: he had thought her an armed auxiliary ship. But Athenia's
Speaker 1: cloaked sailing style was intentional, because aggression doesn't come out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Right Jews were fleeing Europe ships had been
Speaker 1: warned not to sail, and stateside, those in the know
Speaker 1: had long been nervous about aggressive vessels treading near our
Speaker 1: eastern shores. Those of means could do something about it.
Speaker 1: The hands and family moved to up and coming Wolfboro,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire during Robert's teen years, to avoid potential calamity
Speaker 1: in Boston. That's where he would meet those Europeans resettling
Speaker 1: in New England. He just mentioned. I loved athletes like
Speaker 1: Austrian skier Hun Schneider and Yucca mccola, a Finnish Olympic
Speaker 1: truck star who would then coach at Harvard with an
Speaker 1: Ivy League father. And such connections Robert's future would seem
Speaker 1: to be open wide before him, we had a ski
Speaker 1: club in both pro I became quite a good scare
Speaker 1: wants a racist locally, and when I graduated, I applied
Speaker 1: to Darkness the boy. I was zipped right into Darkness.
Speaker 1: I went to dark with as a freshman in nineteen
Speaker 1: forty one. Everything was tense, but they dreamt of it.
Speaker 1: If he happening. People that did with my father. It's
Speaker 1: all these older people. December seventh, nineteen forty one, it
Speaker 1: was a Sunday and a group of us decided that
Speaker 1: we'd like to go to the Wound. We were active
Speaker 1: the rich on the afternoon. I can't tell you now
Speaker 1: the name of it, but when I came out of
Speaker 1: the movie to town had erupted, especially with all the
Speaker 1: fellows in school, A lot of them right there in
Speaker 1: there practically packed up and left and listen. So here
Speaker 1: I was not knowing what was going on, but I
Speaker 1: knew I was going to be going. I knew I
Speaker 1: wanted to go, but I knew I wanted to ski.
Speaker 1: Three weeks after, I was at a Cannon Mountain with
Speaker 1: the kids ski team and we had the bumpin all
Speaker 1: to ourselves. I feel you hey, that have the whole
Speaker 1: mountain to myself. I'm going to enjoy you. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: it quarter of the way down. My thought is nebs.
Speaker 1: Then I flew through the year fifty a t feet
Speaker 1: and he hit a pine tree. When they exported me,
Speaker 1: I had broken my patella in fibula. Here I was
Speaker 1: with a broken leg, feeling sorry for myself. What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: As far as the Service was concerned, along game an
Speaker 1: Army recruiter. He said, hey, we can help you out.
Speaker 1: We can get you in the Mountain Troops. Whether he
Speaker 1: is ski or not. We're gonna pick you own the
Speaker 1: University of Answered where they've got an our ow TC.
Speaker 1: So I started training for the Mountain Troops. We skied
Speaker 1: against our president. The team was undefeated and lo would behold.
Speaker 1: We beat present. We eat at the national championship. A
Speaker 1: Navy recruiter shows up in New Hampshire. How would you
Speaker 1: like to go to schools some more and ski for
Speaker 1: the Navy. We send in your orders and you're going
Speaker 1: to Middlebury College. They had just established apeach Well Navy program.
Speaker 1: A lot of these college programs who were to save
Speaker 1: the colleges because they were losing all their men and
Speaker 1: some women going in the service. We were just like
Speaker 1: college student. We ate in the vessels and every except
Speaker 1: we were an active duty in the morning. Re believe
Speaker 1: we have to get up to gown per informations, doing
Speaker 1: stuff like that between classes. I went through the season
Speaker 1: there and I was transferred to Columbia University Naval Midshipments School.
Speaker 1: Mid shipment that means you've qualified to train to be
Speaker 1: an office. I said, I want to go with the
Speaker 1: t keyboards and I got picked for pe keyboard training
Speaker 1: at Newport Rhode Island. All offices there. This was the
Speaker 1: first third of untour. So now I get to San
Speaker 1: Francisco Courts with brand new transport strip to Southwest Pacific.
Speaker 1: We went across the equator and we landed in the
Speaker 1: island off Australia. I was put on the small freighter
Speaker 1: chugging up and down New Guineas coast through the islands.
Speaker 1: I got on a better ship to the tip of
Speaker 1: New Guinea and there was at boards quarter right away.
Speaker 1: I was assigned as an executive officer on board PT two,
Speaker 1: so we bet the skipper right away he had to
Speaker 1: be running the boat. It was just like a dance.
Speaker 1: Those college programs Robert was recruited for often involved public
Speaker 1: relations like duties where the uniformed athletes would show their
Speaker 1: stuff at eventsment to inspire patriotism and progress. He was
Speaker 1: housed in brand new barracks on campus, stocked with amenities,
Speaker 1: and overseen by two Chief Petty Officers. So what does
Speaker 1: the shift to p TEA boats really mean for bob
Speaker 1: our Coastguard gunners mate Frank Tavita left his attack transport ship,
Speaker 1: the Samuel Chase, to help mana Higgins boat on d Day,
Speaker 1: and Higgins boats were one of the two most common
Speaker 1: styles of pets the Navy and Coastguard would employ through
Speaker 1: the war and that major European offensive. The massive fleet
Speaker 1: of flat bottomed boats like Frank's were thirty six ft long,
Speaker 1: made of plywood with a steel ramp, and could pack
Speaker 1: in around thirty six fully armed troops. Because they were small,
Speaker 1: the value of PTE boats were initially underestimated. Outside of
Speaker 1: these short, fast maneuvers, What could a tiny motorized torpedo
Speaker 1: boat accomplish against massive destroyers and battleships? Right, It's exactly
Speaker 1: because they were small, vast, and cheap to make or
Speaker 1: I lose that PETS would become a mosquito like force
Speaker 1: in the Pacific. After the break, we follow Robert through
Speaker 1: some high speed combat. There you're listening to service veteran
Speaker 1: stories of hunger and war from my heart radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Jacqueline Proposo and we're here with Navy Lieutenant Robert Hansen
Speaker 1: on PTO operating off of more Thai Island. More Thai
Speaker 1: is one of the Maluku Islands, also known as the
Speaker 1: Spice Islands, which we'll get into later, an archipelago of
Speaker 1: the Indonesian Islands, with Papua New Guinea to the south
Speaker 1: and the Philippines to the north. By our entry in
Speaker 1: late nineteen forty one, Japan had occupied the majority of
Speaker 1: these Central and Southeast Pacific islands, which threatened our ally
Speaker 1: British colonized Australia and our ability to transport troops and
Speaker 1: materials for invasions in Japan. Around the time Bob was
Speaker 1: joining the fight, the Japanese had lost many battleships and
Speaker 1: the capture and recapture of dozens of these islands, and
Speaker 1: so they turned to transporting troops and supplies on barges
Speaker 1: low dark vessels that were slow but could easily camouflage
Speaker 1: when docked tight in shallow waters beside an island. They
Speaker 1: weren't that big, but they could carry a lot. One
Speaker 1: nineteen forty four intelligence report estimates one barge could carry
Speaker 1: a day's rations for six thousand, two hundred Japanese soldiers,
Speaker 1: and they were armored, which gave the p TEA boats
Speaker 1: a run for their money the cousin contrast, Let's remember
Speaker 1: that the p TEA boats were made out of wood mahogany. Usually,
Speaker 1: their ability to act as radar was limited, and so
Speaker 1: crew basically patrolled open waters looking for targets with binoculars.
Speaker 1: And while the eighty foot el Co PTE two was
Speaker 1: equipped with two torpedo launching racks of forty millimeter deck
Speaker 1: gun and two anti aircraft guns. When they found a barge,
Speaker 1: they would have to get really close to the enemy
Speaker 1: to spray and then speed away, and they'd splinter if
Speaker 1: they took on enemy fire. The crew under Navy Lieutenant
Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy would notoriously swim eleven hours to safety
Speaker 1: after their PT one O nine was shredded around the
Speaker 1: Solomon Islands. So here we are with our lieutenant Hansen,
Speaker 1: one of fourteen men on PTE two in Squadron eleven,
Speaker 1: part of the Mosquito fleet, right across from Japanese occupied
Speaker 1: Halmahara Island as four slips into nineteen forty five. At
Speaker 1: that point they were six see thousands Japs further across
Speaker 1: from us, and they were constantly trying to get over
Speaker 1: in sabotage. Atnything of our stuff? Was it d at night?
Speaker 1: You were busy running into these damn barges, and heaven
Speaker 1: shoot them. You'd make a run because we could go
Speaker 1: fat and they could not go fat. We were out
Speaker 1: of this night patrol. We're making a run in the
Speaker 1: dark like the Japanese that cloth to make us silhouetted.
Speaker 1: So the tip and we've found a bard who were
Speaker 1: making one's trying to stop the kill of whatever severer
Speaker 1: was that the weird I was standing right next year
Speaker 1: all of us are there, is said, have hit down,
Speaker 1: and I grabbed form. He was bleak, and I was
Speaker 1: as ship. I had to step in and I pushed
Speaker 1: the problems right to see what had happened. We stopped
Speaker 1: with the far off away. A couple of other guys
Speaker 1: have been here. We didn't have doctors. We didn't have
Speaker 1: anything on these small boats. And he said, the hell
Speaker 1: of it. I'm going to give him back, but maybe
Speaker 1: he'll live. I told the great iron man, give me
Speaker 1: a course straight back to the base. How the boy,
Speaker 1: the sun came up every We're going like hell, and
Speaker 1: in the excitement you forgot to reach that was out there.
Speaker 1: And I happened to look over the side nice and
Speaker 1: holy shot, we haven't going forty five miles an hour.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we've been are here and the only
Speaker 1: thing that saved us is the boat had gone from
Speaker 1: fever flat. A little water to raise up. We need
Speaker 1: to hit a m fing. We pulled into the base,
Speaker 1: the dambulus everything and they flew about. Boats came over
Speaker 1: and he says, we just had one fade jelly, it's
Speaker 1: free of flour wounded. Congratulations, you are now the skipper
Speaker 1: pt What did you do? As skipper? Bob would make
Speaker 1: nightly strafing like runs on the barges for the remaining
Speaker 1: months of the war. During the day, he'd play a
Speaker 1: little on top of nailing wooden boards together to teach
Speaker 1: men how to water ski. He'd get to know the
Speaker 1: locals food wise, the tropical Molucas Islands are known for
Speaker 1: their abundance of local fish, obviously, and they're growing of cocoa, coconuts,
Speaker 1: canary nuts, and sego, the starchy pulp of a particular
Speaker 1: palm trunk that dries into a flower or tapioca like
Speaker 1: per rolls. This region of Indonesia was also dubbed the
Speaker 1: Spice Islands for their wealth of nutmeg, so prized in
Speaker 1: earlier centuries for its medicinal properties that wars were repeatedly
Speaker 1: waged against the native islanders by Portuguese, English, and Dutch colonizers. Notoriously,
Speaker 1: the British gave up neighboring Banda Island to the Dutch
Speaker 1: in trade for Manhattan. That's how much nutmeg was worth
Speaker 1: in sixteen seventy seven. But this doesn't exactly mean the
Speaker 1: almost one point four million Navy personnel in the Pacific
Speaker 1: at this time we're feasting on local delicacies, as we
Speaker 1: heard in our episode with Chief Petty Officer William Walker,
Speaker 1: who was overseeing supply holds onboard ship in the Pacific.
Speaker 1: At the same time, bugs often infested flour during transport
Speaker 1: the powdered eggs. All of our veterans remember hating extended
Speaker 1: to the powdered potatoes sailors eight on Island cleverly renamed
Speaker 1: as snow flaked potatoes on holiday menus milk was dehydrated
Speaker 1: to the canned foods, which we've heard kept in rooving
Speaker 1: over the course of the war would often arrive glazed
Speaker 1: with an odor that didn't exactly inspire an appetite. Sea.
Speaker 1: Russian innovation was not so progressed that it could guarantee
Speaker 1: flavor and freshness against the Pacific's heat and humidity, and
Speaker 1: so spam became a sailor's major meat staple, and eating
Speaker 1: it sometimes three times a day meant a total one
Speaker 1: million cans of the stuff circulated there through the war,
Speaker 1: passed with those powdered eggs for breakfast, fried into sandwiches
Speaker 1: stewed with tomato sauce. This is why, as everywhere anything
Speaker 1: fresh or flash frozen was prized. While Navy ships had freezers,
Speaker 1: pte boats barely had a galley kitchen, only enough space
Speaker 1: to make the crew sandwiches and coffee. Really, and base
Speaker 1: camps relied on what ships like Williams could barrel through
Speaker 1: the dangerous waters to them. As we heard from our
Speaker 1: Coastguard Gunner's mate Frank Tavita. If anyone was getting the
Speaker 1: fresh stuff, it was the officers, and William remembers fresh
Speaker 1: eggs and beer as special actions for when those with
Speaker 1: particular brass came aboard. What does this all mean for
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Hansen? The food I was getting, we were offsites.
Speaker 1: We were eating like kids. None of us were starting
Speaker 1: the opposite, and none of the enlisted windows. All right,
Speaker 1: anything not frozen. We were getting a good, better and
Speaker 1: different unfrozen can dates by the barrel road. We were
Speaker 1: so used to it. Everybody else was eating it. The
Speaker 1: food didn't bother me. But through this I'd love to
Speaker 1: ride that page every time we got a chance to
Speaker 1: get out and think the crew because they enjoyed it
Speaker 1: and they loved the wall and try and beg from
Speaker 1: the ship looking for the fresh stop. We were trying
Speaker 1: to help the datives that were helping us, and they
Speaker 1: were helping us all the time. Extra foods that we
Speaker 1: would scrown, we'd give it away. In truth, most of
Speaker 1: the time the guys who not give them frozen food,
Speaker 1: they'd give them damned food. And the datas were typl
Speaker 1: to get anything. Every time we were giving it to
Speaker 1: the datas. I would get a chance to talk with them,
Speaker 1: most of to speak a word of English. But what
Speaker 1: fascinated me was all the mahogany card stuff. They always
Speaker 1: had statues, alligators, the most beautiful carving. You couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. These guys also were diving, and
Speaker 1: they dove to depths. We couldn't think of diving too.
Speaker 1: The dive for pearls. Who dive for food, They spearfish.
Speaker 1: They did everything. I'd ate a couple of times just
Speaker 1: to please them, and they knew it. They just plut cocoa.
Speaker 1: That's what we drink, cocad and milk. We would treat
Speaker 1: it at like kings. I tried to teach them the
Speaker 1: same way, because they had no reason not to. Then,
Speaker 1: one night of this nineteen forty fun we were in patrol.
Speaker 1: O kid that goes out of the radio, Mr Hanson,
Speaker 1: there's a broadcast. Are now right now? Effort issued in
Speaker 1: a conditional surrender, so the war is over. I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding. Get every god day, have a
Speaker 1: piece of ammunition out. You've gotta fire everything we got's
Speaker 1: never seen the fourth in your life the war is over.
Speaker 1: Robert lingered after v J Day while they figured out
Speaker 1: what to do with all of those pt boats. Then
Speaker 1: a mischievous e wall escapade landed him on a out
Speaker 1: home to the Pearl Harbor base. You can hear the
Speaker 1: full clip of that caper on his page at Service
Speaker 1: podcast dot org. From that point forward, his life was
Speaker 1: filled with more serendipitous opportunities. While at the naval base
Speaker 1: in Pearl Harbor, he got an interview with Vice Admiral
Speaker 1: Charles Wellborn, who was looking for a new aid. Despite
Speaker 1: wanting to get back to civilian freedom, Bob recognized the opportunity,
Speaker 1: took the position, and spent the following year's shuttling government
Speaker 1: personnel to Asia, participating in the Korean War and then
Speaker 1: the Cuban Missile Crisis, which qualified him for service in Vietnam.
Speaker 1: With a family of three children, he officially retired from
Speaker 1: the Navy in n Throughout all of this, Who remembers
Speaker 1: the keeping people down he witnessed in various social and
Speaker 1: economic spheres. He says it would tick him off that
Speaker 1: black men like William could only get positions of manual
Speaker 1: labor in the Navy, and he spoken loudly about that
Speaker 1: disparity whenever his service story has been and requested. Since
Speaker 1: you can hear a little about that in part two
Speaker 1: of our episode, Dad, I can't talk about it. While
Speaker 1: at General Motors outside of Detroit, who remembers pointing out
Speaker 1: to skeptical white people that the black men who made
Speaker 1: up two thirds of the workforce there largely drove Cadillacs
Speaker 1: because they made good money but couldn't buy homes or
Speaker 1: land in that part of Michigan. Volunteering with the Red
Speaker 1: Cross both in the Pacific and in Michigan, he fought
Speaker 1: to get a black doctor on the all white board
Speaker 1: of directors back in Wolfborow. Years later, he took a
Speaker 1: local argument all the way to Washington to get their
Speaker 1: town hall updated to code. With the Americans with the
Speaker 1: Disabilities Act. Now ninety six years old, he's fighting for
Speaker 1: elder care rights. Our two interviews were peppered with examples
Speaker 1: of his challenging authority to uphold equal rights and his
Speaker 1: speaking up angrily when such things were tossed in the
Speaker 1: rubbish bin. This is also why Bob, like William, doesn't
Speaker 1: care to talk that much about food. He's seen the
Speaker 1: highbrow and the rancid and eats to live. A common
Speaker 1: refrain from our greatest generation veterans is that they were
Speaker 1: grateful to have food at all, and it's funny to
Speaker 1: hear how their memories of military cuisine might be a
Speaker 1: bit rose colored by time and such appreciation because Hormel
Speaker 1: took a lot of backlash from g I's after their
Speaker 1: overeating of spam. Evidently, the recipe packed into six pound
Speaker 1: cans for the military was slightly different than the pork
Speaker 1: shoulder and ham combo vacuum sealed into the twelve pounds
Speaker 1: commercial version, and it didn't taste as good. Troops used
Speaker 1: the grease from it to oil down weapons and shine
Speaker 1: their hair. Consumption dropped significantly on the home front. Post war,
Speaker 1: spam ceilings had long been hit and as well here
Speaker 1: in upcoming seasons. The military would soon start working with
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty six private companies within a year
Speaker 1: after the war ended to both better combat cuisine and
Speaker 1: innovate convenience foods for the American kitchen. In our next episode,
Speaker 1: Ray Boutwell, a Navy cook stationed in New Jersey, we'll
Speaker 1: guide us through some of the progress already being tested
Speaker 1: at Base Camp Stateside towards the end of the war.
Speaker 1: Until then, you can find more about all the nerdy
Speaker 1: stuff behind this episode at Bob's page at Service podcast
Speaker 1: dot org, plus extra audio clips and photos on our
Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook. We are at Service podcast Service as
Speaker 1: a production from My Heart Radio, where Gabrielle Collins is
Speaker 1: our supervising producer and Christopher hasiotis our executive producer. I
Speaker 1: produced and engineered this episode with help from historian, novelist
Speaker 1: and former past Guard officer Mike Coal on the PT
Speaker 1: Combat Sequences. Listen up from Mike returning to us later
Speaker 1: this season. Thank you to Bob's daughter Debbie for her
Speaker 1: help and Bill Walker Williams son for connecting us with
Speaker 1: Bob for this episode. Check out Williams episode Service within
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