1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Sunday Hang is brought to you by Chalk Natural Supplements 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for guys, gals, and nothing in between. Fuel your day 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: at Chalk dot com, bold reverence, and occasionally random The 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Sunday Hang with Playing Fuck podcast. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: It starts now. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: I bought a blue leather couch old Blue. Wow, amazing couch, 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: blue leather two thousand and one. When I started law school. 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I went out to rooms to go, I think, and 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: I bought a four hundred dollars I remember, four hundred 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: dollar couch. I was like, this is the most amazing 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: thing at old blue, blue leather couch. I have had 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: it now for twenty four years. Did you really call 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: your couch old blue? Because Carrie me, I had a 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: couch that I called old Gray. Was big and comfy 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: and overstuffed. And Carrie, when we got married, it was 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: like taking old yellow out back. I had to like 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: put a bullet in old Gray and take my couch 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: and give it away to like, you know, one of 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the giveaway places. 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: Very sad. 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: I walked up into my office and old Blue was gone. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: There was no discussion about the couch being removed. I 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: don't even know who took it out. I sat down 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: literally where I sit. 25 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: You don't even get you to say goodbye to Old Blue. 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: I didn't get say well, Old Blue was on the front. 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Old Blue was on the front porch. Laura had another 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: garage cell buck over the over the weekend. 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: My wife. 30 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: I think if she could be a professional garage cell person. 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: This is like the dream of all dreams for her. 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Old Blue was on the front porch. Somebody I don't 33 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: know who bought it. I had that couch for twenty 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: four years, four hundred dollars, twenty four years, great return, and. 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Lara sold it for one hundred bucks. She sold Old 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: Blue for one hundred bucks. 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: Old Gray was like a brother to me. Man, Old 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: Gray was there for me for years. 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: You know. It was that couch was way too big 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: for the part of the tiny apartment I had in 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: New York. It was like I had had to move 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: everything just to make room for the couch. And you 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: could pretty much touch both like walls front and back 44 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: from it. But man, that couch, it was. It was 45 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: always there for me rough day at work, Old Gray 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: was there. 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: Old Blue. 48 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: That's the same thing is mine was like a fabric, 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: though yours was leather. That's some real man cave stuff. 50 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's like remember the movie boiler 51 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: Room back in the day, where those guys were wealthy 52 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: traders and they based it's an underrated I think that's 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: an underrated movie. It's a good film. They had awesome places. 54 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: You probably some of you women who have dated, you know, 55 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: guys in their twenties or probably early thirties, have been 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: in this situation where you walk in in the apartment 57 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: or the house or the condo or whatever's kind of nice, 58 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: but there's nothing on the walls. There is basically a 59 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: big comfortable couch, a huge flat screen television right and that, 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: and then make maybe a bed on like not even 61 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: with a stand, but like a big, king sized bed. 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Maybe some Chinese takeout or pizza boxes in a corner, 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: not even necessarily stacked in a corner. When Laura started 64 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: dating me Buck, she came to the place where I 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: was living where Old Blue and I were bachelor padding it, 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: and she said, where are your pots and pants? I've 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: been this place for like a year, so where do 68 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: you keep your pots and pants? I was like, I 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: don't think I have pots. I don't think I have 70 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: pots and pans. Not only did I not have them? 71 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: I had never thought to myself, you know what I'm 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: really missing here is pots and pans. When she asked, 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: it was I'd never even had the thought that I 74 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: should have pots and pans. How old were you when 75 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: you bought your first Well, so you've been married, so 76 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: this is different. But I didn't buy a headboard for 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: a bed until I think I was like forty years old. 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: I just got a bed with pillows on it that 79 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: I slept on. Hell, I mean, most guys don't have me. 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: You just have like a big mattress and like something 81 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: to put the mattress on, some sort of box springs. 82 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: But even the larger construct of the bed, most guys 83 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: don't have that. The first thing I bought that I 84 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: was super proud to buy was a flat screen television. 85 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Old Blue was close, but a flat screen television. I 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: really thought I had made it. 87 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: Nobody this Old Blue and Old Gray would have been 88 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: good friends. 89 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was. 90 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: This was the thing. 91 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, Gerard Ali's husband kind of a allusion, very 92 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: handsome man. Uh he had a black leather couch that 93 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: she made him. We're just we're just finding out. They 94 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: got married and black leather. Couch got sent sent to 95 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: the the glue factory, so to speak. I hope that 96 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: couch has a good life, uh from here, because I 97 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: feel like twenty four years we made a good made 98 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: a good team. And uh then I just walked into 99 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: my office and the point is everything is getting taken 100 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: out because we're moving into a new house and I 101 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: just walk in and things are disappearing. Go get all 102 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: the books at Crockettcoffee dot com. Uh before who knows 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: where those books end up. Uh, you can use code 104 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: book and uh just pour one out for Old Blue 105 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: if you would. As we finish off the hour Old 106 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Blue and Eye. I'm just disappointed that I missed. I 107 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: missed out on the Clay Clay Travis tag sale. I 108 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: mean I feel like I could have gotten some great stuff, 109 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: some good deals. Yeah, I think Laura made us sixty 110 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: eight dollars. I mean, there's no telling you I'm gonna 111 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: be able to buy one half of a stacene. Not 112 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: that the IRS knows about my friend. You know what 113 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Oh, cash baby. 114 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta be careful. 115 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty eight one dollar bills, So look out, world. 116 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: We had a weekend here Sunday hang with Clay and Buck. 117 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: I was just putting this out, maybe something something that 118 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: some of the dog experts in the audience can tell 119 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: can tell me about. Uh, because we're doing some more 120 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: training with Ginger Spice, we have, we have a baby, 121 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: a baby's gonna be walking, and just there's new new 122 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: things to take into account here, so like we can't 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: have her jumping on people. I'm of course very bad 124 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: about this. Clay, I come home and I'm one of 125 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: these people who I love the dog getting all excited 126 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: and jumping on me, and I'll carry her and she'll 127 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: wrestle me and we have so much fun. But with 128 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: a toddler, that's not good because she'll want to do 129 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: that with the toddler. She'll knock the toddler down and 130 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: hit his head and that kind of stuff. So you're 131 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: doing some new training. So I was taking Ginger out 132 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: for her walk today and I am always I'm amazed 133 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: at just how intuitive this little animal is and how 134 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: she picks up on my moods and my tone and 135 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: emotions everything else. And I was walking today and like 136 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: she's being such a great little companion. She's a little 137 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Australian labordodle. It weighs about twenty five pounds. A lot 138 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: of you've seen photos that are brought are in and 139 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: then out of nowhere, she dove into the biggest pile 140 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: of poop. I think I have, like, I don't know 141 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: if it was like a horse or something, and just 142 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: got it all over And I sit there, I'm like, why. 143 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: This animal is so smart? She would she would never 144 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: do that. 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand why this happens, Clay, I don't know. 146 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: Then I'm reminded it is in fact an animal that 147 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with. It is it in fact a case? 148 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: I think the funniest part of this story is you 149 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: put on a bathing suit and then got in the 150 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: shower with your dog to clean the poop all of 151 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: her for like half an hour before the show today, 152 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: that is what I was doing. I was in there 153 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: now rubbing. 154 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Away question why not fully nude from you? 155 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Not to take people into the total nude universe here, 156 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: but what was the thought process? You didn't want the 157 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: dog to see you naked like you were modest? Well, 158 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: there was so much, there was so much external refuse 159 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: on the dog that I was afraid of your exposure. 160 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to get you know what I'm saying, 161 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like you know, I 162 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: know it's a kind of thing, but you don't want 163 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: dog poop. 164 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: It's one thing to get on my wrists from my hands. 165 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: I don't want any dog. 166 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Poop down there, buddy. So, yes, I had to cover 167 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: up a little bit. I had to cover up a 168 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm sorry, that's what I was thinking. I 169 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about them. I was like, is he modest? 170 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: Is he like? I don't want to be the you know, 171 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: nude with the dog. No, it was, I remember it was. 172 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: I found weird because it was so dirty. 173 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: So I wanted to have a little protection down below 174 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: because you know, guys, we all know you gotta protect 175 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: that area. 176 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: You gotta protect first and foremost. 177 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I when when my youngest got sick once of many times, 178 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: right if you're a parent, and I mean just threw 179 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: up all over himself, and my wife was also, uh, 180 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: my wife was also sick. Because, unfortun buck, as you 181 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: will learn, when one of the kid gets sick, everyone 182 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: gets sick. Yeah, it just runs through the whole family. 183 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: Every kid gets it, you know, it just it does, 184 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: stomach bug whatever else. And he threw up all over 185 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: himself and I was like, I mean, I can either 186 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: like try to wash him, and I just got in 187 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: the shower with him, and you know, cause kids are 188 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: too young to get in the shower when they're super young, 189 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: but if you're holding them there, and I was just like, 190 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it. So I was thinking about that 191 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: when you were talking about the dog. It's just I'm 192 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: gonna get it all off at once. And so you're 193 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: just in there and you're just like, ugh. Anyway, I'm 194 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: glad that you and the dog have survived, and I'm 195 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: glad that you managed to keep yourself from getting too 196 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: covered in poop. Really fun show. Encourage all of you 197 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast you just heard, doctor Safire. We've 198 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: put together a great podcast network. Maybe you want a 199 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: variety of different perspectives on health, on family, whatever you 200 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: are interested in. There is someone in our podcast network 201 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: that can expand your audio universe and make it even 202 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: more enjoyable than it otherwise would. 203 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: Be Sundays with Clay and Buss. 204 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: The full video is up at clayanbuck dot com. But 205 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, Florida, a five year old boy woke up 206 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: before his parents did on a I think it was 207 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: a weekend and decided that he was going to go 208 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: get himself breakfast at Chick fil A. Walked still dressed 209 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: in his bedclothes down to Chick fil A, where the 210 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: police were called, showed up found the kid said, Hey, 211 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: where do you live? Where's mom and dad? The whole 212 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: thing is on the body cam that has been released 213 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: from the Jacksonville Police Department. They show up at mom 214 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: and dad's house, They ring the doorbell. Mom and dad 215 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: have no idea the five year old has left the house, 216 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: and it is quite the funny, positive story. It goes 217 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: to Buck's point about in general they much more seriously, 218 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: but they had a shooting in Florida and they tried 219 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: to say, oh, this was unjustified. Every time, it feels 220 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: like the actual body cam comes out, by and large, 221 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: you see that the police are justified in actually doing 222 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: a pretty good job, and this one, much less seriously, 223 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: is a fun story. Yeah, it's up at clanbuck dot com. 224 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: You can check out the video there. Clay also shared it. 225 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: It's gotten millions of views there. 226 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: I just it's it's funny to me. 227 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: Because I feel like I remember one time trying to 228 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: go to trying to walk to school when I was 229 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: way too young to do so, when I was a kid. 230 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: I think I got one block and turned around. You 231 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: know this is a thing that sometimes happens, but that 232 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: this kid actually showed this video. If you actually showed 233 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: up in the Chick fil A, yes, five years old, 234 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: He's just a little guy showed up in the Chick 235 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: fil A. He's very excited to get his chicken sandwich. 236 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: I suppose or does Chick fil A do a specific breakfast? 237 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: I don't know enough about you. 238 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: Oh they Oh, yes, they got your great chicken. I 239 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: mean again, they should really sponsor the show. But they've 240 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: got a great chicken biscuit, they've got a very specific 241 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: they got the hash browns, uh circle hash Browns, not 242 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: like the big ones like McDonald's. Uh, Chick fil A 243 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: is flawless all day long. But yes, they have a 244 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: specific breakfast offering, are they? 245 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Is that? 246 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: Is it all in your favorite your favorite fast food chain? 247 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: Chick not even not even a close second. 248 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: The number of times I'm driving on a Sunday and 249 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: I think, man, I'd like to get Chick fil A 250 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: and then realize, oh, Sunday, they're not They're they're closed, 251 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: especially after a college football Saturday, maybe a few drinks 252 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: the night before. 253 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: Chick fil A is by far my favorite. Do you 254 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: have a favorite? 255 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 4: Uh? 256 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I can't have gluten obviously, so 257 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: that makes Chick fil a little more complicated. Although I 258 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: love their grilled nuggets and their waffle fries are phenomenal, 259 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: so I do eat Chick fil A. 260 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan. 261 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna make me sound like Kami Mom 262 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: Donnie Clay, but I'm a shakeshack guy, love Shakeshack, just 263 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: a little left wing, little left wing politics at the 264 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: top there. 265 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, gotta go Chick fil A Sundays with Clay and fuck. 266 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: Malcolm Gladwell probably I think the most famous non fiction 267 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: celebrity author in America. Would you buy into that designation 268 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: in terms of book sells, I don't know that anybody 269 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: would have sold more copies than him. It's him and 270 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Michael Lewis probably for our to go to the last 271 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: twenty years or so, those would be the two that 272 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: I think are. I met him in France, by the way, 273 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: for the iHeart event, so I actually met mister Gladwell. 274 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: For the first we shook hands. 275 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he wouldn't you know, He had no idea 276 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: who I was like, hey man, yeah, so yeah, So 277 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to play a cut for him. I imagine 278 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: a lot of you have read his books. Tipping Point 279 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: is probably the most famous, but he's got a ton 280 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: of different books, and I think he has a very 281 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: popular podcast. So I would bet a huge percentage of 282 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: you are familiar with who Malcolm Gladwell is. So let 283 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: me take you behind the scenes a little bit here. 284 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: I sold my company out Kick, to Fox in twenty 285 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: twenty one. On Super Bowl Sunday twenty two, twenty one, 286 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: we made two million dollars in affiliate revenue for from FanDuel. 287 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: That is that Super Bowl Day. The company that I ran, 288 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: we and founded. We were one of the top affiliates 289 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: in the entire country. So if you were watching Tom 290 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: Brady Tampa Bay Buccaneers go up against Patrick Mahomes Kansas 291 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, our company and to a large extent me 292 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: made more money than anybody playing in that game on 293 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: sports gambling affiliate referral deals. We were for FanDuel, which 294 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: is the biggest sports affiliate company sports gambling company in 295 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: the country. We were either their best or second best 296 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: affiliate partner in the country. Pat McAfee, who now is 297 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: at ESPN, was also wildly profitable for them. We were 298 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: their too best at helping to promote and sports gambling. Obviously, 299 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: we've got a great relationship with Prize Picks, which ties 300 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: in here with that. We made six seven million dollars 301 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: a year on that deal. That was important for us 302 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: as a part of the company. Sold the company, FanDuel 303 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: said they wouldn't work with me anymore Buck because I 304 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: was too outspoken on the trans sports issue. This is 305 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: a sports gambling company. They said, Clay is too controversial 306 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: because he is saying men should not be competing in 307 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: women's sports, and FanDuel is worried about the controversy that 308 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: he brings for being so outspoken on that issue. As 309 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: a result, FanDuel refused to work with me, and as 310 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: a result, refused to work Withoutkick so me merely saying 311 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: men should not be able to compete in women's athletics 312 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: cost the company that I founded and owned around seven 313 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. I don't know how much money 314 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: you guys make but seven million dollars a year for 315 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: a media company is a big, huge part of what 316 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: allows the company to be profitable, to employ tons of people. 317 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: But as a matter of principle, I said, I'm not 318 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: going to stop talking about this, even though FanDuel is saying, well, 319 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: you're too controversial for saying this. So the reason why 320 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I give you that backstory is it was even though 321 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent the right thing to say, it 322 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: took hutzpah. It took sometimes turning away from millions of 323 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: dollars to say what I personally believe to be true 324 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: and allow the company to be at the forefront of 325 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: arguing this as no, no, no, no, no, no, not what 326 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: you not what you personally believe to be true, what 327 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: is undeniably unequipped obviously and as clear as anything could 328 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: be true, which I think is important. You weren't penalized, 329 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: Clay for an opinion. You were penalized for a fact, 330 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: which is a whole that is Soviet Union level stuff. 331 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: That is everyone who's starving say the grain harvest is 332 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: the biggest grain harvest of all time. That is a 333 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: manufactured delusion, my friend. And if you wonder why did 334 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: people not step up against this across all of sports. 335 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Only OutKick and really only met at the forefront of this. 336 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: We're willing to make this argument. 337 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: It's because the big advertising partners out there would grab 338 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: you by the you know what and they would squeeze 339 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: if you tried to step out along. This is the truth. 340 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Nobody else will even tell you this. I'm telling you directly. Okay, 341 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Malcolm Gladwell came. They have a big sports conference, sports 342 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: analytics conference at MIT, and they had a bunch of 343 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: famous h Malcolm Gladwell has a connection to sports. He's 344 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: a big sports fan. He's done sports related reporting and stories, 345 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: and he and everybody else on that panel at the 346 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: I think it's the Sloan Kettering MIT Institute or whatever, 347 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: refused to speak out against men competing in women's sports 348 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: because the consequences were real. What I just told you, 349 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: it could cost your company millions of dollars, It could 350 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: cost you personally millions of dollars, It could impact your employability. 351 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: They were very targeted in the way that they attacked here. 352 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: And now he's come out. This just happened yesterday, and 353 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Malcolm Gladwell says, hey, I was bullied. 354 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: I was cowed. 355 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: I was afraid of the consequences, and now I'm going 356 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. Men shouldn't be able to 357 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: compete in women's sports. 358 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: Listen if we did a replay of that exact panel 359 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 4: at the SLUM conference this coming March, it runs in 360 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: exactly the opposite direction, and it would be I suspect 361 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: near unanimity in the room that trans athletes have no 362 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: place in the female category. I don't think this is 363 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: any question. I just think it was a strange I mean, 364 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: I felt. I mean the reason I'm ashamed of my 365 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: performance of that panel because I share your position one 366 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: hundred percent and I was count is the idea of 367 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 4: saying anything on this issue. I was in a I 368 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 4: believe in retrospect in a dishonest way. 369 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: I was. 370 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: I was objective in a dishonest way. 371 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I give him credit for coming out and being 372 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: honest about this. I think this is so incredibly important 373 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: because there are consequences. Unfortunately, when you are willing to 374 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: speak the truth. I think your qualification is important there. 375 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: This is not This is not me arguing what the 376 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: tax rate in Moldova. 377 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Should be. We're sitting around and we're like, well, you. 378 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Know this is his dudes are not chicks, and chicks 379 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: are not dudes, and pretending they are is a lie. 380 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: That is what this is. 381 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: Even in the world of sports. 382 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: It's beyond that buck because you're saying men don't have 383 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: a competitive advantage, or you're sitting around you're saying, well, 384 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: we have to do studies. 385 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: No, men are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. 386 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: We know underlying all of it, underlying all of it, 387 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: and this has to be remembered. Is that trans for example, 388 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: and this is usually what we're talking about in the 389 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: sports context, trans women are women indistinguishable and to be 390 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: treated by society and the law as women, indistinguishable from 391 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: women in all respects, even though they're not women. That 392 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: is the actual foundational mandatory belief of the trans movement, right, 393 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: is that they transplate what is the phrase trans women 394 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: are women? Yeah, this is what they say. Trans women 395 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: are women, and that's why they should be able to 396 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: play in women's sports. 397 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: That is a lie. 398 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: I think this is important though, and I see this 399 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: everywhere and people who may not be involved in media, 400 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: a lot of you sit around you say, well, how 401 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: did this happen. It was if you were willing to 402 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: speak out on this issue. Advertisers said, I can't. I 403 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: won't work with this person anymore. And I'm talking about 404 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: a friggin sports gambling company. You think that it's a 405 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: coincidence that of all companies, that should be one that recognized, hey, 406 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: men and women's sports is ridiculous. They actually pushed back 407 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: and they said, even though you, Clay and your company 408 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: have made us tens of millions of dollars, which we 409 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: had objective reality you could look at and say, hey, 410 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: people love this, they wouldn't spend money with us anymore. 411 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: And this is how they control what people say, because 412 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: most people are not willing to give up the money. 413 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: They just pretend this story didn't exist. It wasn't that 414 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: everybody is outspoken in as Gladwell is saying there. It 415 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: was just that a lot of companies just pretended this 416 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: didn't happen, or they would say, as they still say, now, 417 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why you care about that, what you 418 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: even care? It doesn't happen that often. It's not that 419 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: big of it. Well, this is always that, this is 420 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: always the progression, right, It's not happening it's not happening 421 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: that much. 422 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: Why do you care. 423 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: Okay, it's happening. It's happening a little bit. Uh to, 424 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: It's good. It's happening. Shut your face. We're in charge now. 425 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: And this is this is this was COVID, this is 426 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: trans this, this is that is the the slippery slope 427 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: of leftism in America today. It has to progressivism, it 428 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: has to progress The argument always has to go to 429 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: the next level. And it's all based on lies, because 430 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: of course it is happening because they know what's happening, 431 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: and they know it's wrong, and they know they want 432 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: to do more of it, but they use an incrementalist 433 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: strategy to chip away at things and for Gladwell to 434 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: come out now, Clay, yeah. 435 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: Because everything has changed. Now now you can say it. 436 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, now you. 437 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: Can actually, because people like me spoke out so hard 438 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: and took the slings and arrows. I will say Buck, 439 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: I give him some credit for acknowledging he was wrong. 440 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Because what a lot of people are gonna do is 441 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: they're going to wait another couple of years and they're 442 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: gonna come They're gonna say, well, everybody knew this was 443 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: ridiculous all along. And then that they never actually argue otherwise. Yeah, 444 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: I mean that's particularly gross, right, But that will happen. 445 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: I think that is true. 446 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: Five years from now, there will not be a single 447 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: man in America who will say I ever thought it 448 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: was okay? Oh no, no, men pretending to be women 449 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: were competing. 450 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: I disagree with that. 451 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: There will be people, Clay, There are people that will 452 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: take this to the very end, and they think that 453 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: they can get a rebound with this in time. 454 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: All they have to do that. 455 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: They think that they will find their way back into power, 456 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: back into the culture. Twenty percent of the country is 457 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: never going to abandon this. Twenty percent of the country 458 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: is certifiably insane. I mean they think that Kamala Harris 459 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: was a good candidate and Joe Biden's brain was working. 460 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: These people are nuts. 461 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: Well I say this, I mean people who are actual 462 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: sports fans, right, because I understand on some level, if 463 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: you stay if you don't know anything about sports and 464 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: you think, like, hey, maybe Serena Williams is better than 465 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: Roger Federer at tennis, maybe they should play and maybe 466 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the woman would win. I actually give them a pass 467 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: because they're so clueless on the difference of biology. But 468 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: any man I mean this honestly, any man who has 469 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: ever played a high school, college, and certainly a pro 470 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: sport knows that the idea of men being able to 471 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: compete in women's sports was on its face, laughably absurd. 472 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: And where it matters is if they can get you 473 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: to argue that, or if they can get you to 474 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: stay silent on that, they can keep advancing the the 475 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: the left wing agenda because they've cowed you into silence. Yeah, 476 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: you well, and you've you've basically become complicit in your 477 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: own cowardice and your own silencing. And if they can 478 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: get you to say something that's that crazy, they can 479 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: get you to say anything. 480 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: That's the whole point. If they can get you to 481 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: believe this, they can. 482 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: Get you to believe that you know that the sky 483 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: is purple, and you know the earth is flat, and 484 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: you name it. And that's that's a very powerful tool 485 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: of psychological manipulation, because it's degrading. When the state or 486 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: when society forces you to mouth a lie, to say 487 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: the slogans that they demand that you know are false, 488 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: it degrades you psychologically. Yeah, the point they do this 489 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: in alttalitarian regimes, by the way, and they do it purposefully. Yeah, 490 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: and let me say this too. I think the one 491 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: thing I will say additionally in favor of Gladwell is this, 492 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: I think America would be far better if we all 493 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: acknowledge when we get things wrong. I don't think that 494 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: anybody out there listening expects for you or me to 495 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: get everything right. I think when we claim that we 496 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: never get anything wrong, it actually delegitimizes the things that 497 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: we get right. And I do think Malcolm Gladwell coming 498 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: out and saying yes, it's convenient now. Yes, the consequences 499 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: and the stakes and the punishment for being on the 500 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: quote unquote wrong side of the ledger on this issue 501 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: are much demnimized because we won this battle so far. 502 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: But I do think being willing to acknowledge we said 503 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: it like I said it was gonna be a red 504 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: tsunami in twenty twenty two. 505 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: Didn't get it. I had to wear it like I 506 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: was wrong. 507 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: Now, we got a lot right about the twenty twenty 508 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: four election, but I don't think people out there trusted 509 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: us less because you got something wrong. Because everybody gets 510 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: things wrong. Well, that's a prediction too. Yeah, there's a 511 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: difference between a prediction, which is inherently uncertain, and telling 512 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: a lie. Yes, one goes to analysis and nobody's perfect. 513 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: Another goes to you're selling out and a lot of people. 514 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: I will tell you almost everyone sold out. I won't 515 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: name them because I don't. 516 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: I don't. 517 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: People can always, even people on the other side, if 518 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: they asked to speak to me in confidence, I keep confidence. 519 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: I know some prominent democrats in the media, Clay who 520 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: would say to me offline, Oh, the trance thing is crazy, 521 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: but the agenda's crazy. 522 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: But I can't. I can't say it because my side 523 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: would eat me alive.