1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Everybody is the e J n Vy, Jess, Hilary Charlamagne, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Ess is on 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: maternity leave, so Laura LaRosa is filling in, and we 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: got some special guests in the building. We have the 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Tory Norton and Maurice Mitchell. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: Welcome. 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: How y'all feeling welcome? Welcome to not in Lewis. 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 4: Don't forget I'm sorry, damn name Lewis. 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: How you're feeling the energy? Everything good, Thing's good. 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: I can't complain. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 5: Bless blessed, so happy to be here. I know we're 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 5: less than a week until election day or something. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Man, a couple of days. 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 6: The Working Families Party. Maurice, you're the national directory. And 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 6: I remember Jill Stein brought y'all up when she was 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 6: here on the Breakfast Club. 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Was that an accurate look? 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 5: I get excited when people have our names in their mouths, right, 21 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 5: because generally that means we're doing that work, were put 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 5: in work. And the Working Families Party, for those of 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 5: you that may not know what we do, where what 24 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 5: happens where everyday people come together, people who aren't picked 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 5: from the political establishment. We come together and we demand 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 5: a seat at the agenda setting table, right, because we're 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 5: talking about elections, but it's really about setting agendas and 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: building agendas. And so when people are looking they say like, well, 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 5: you know, I'm fed up with this party at that party. 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: We want something else where. That's something else. 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 5: And I like to say that we're a non delusional, 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 5: grassroots third party, right. And so what that means is, 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 5: you know, we cook what we have in the kitchen, right. 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: So I grew up working class, right, and you know 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 5: I can't always have money to buy a gourmet meal, 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 5: but I'll look what we have in the kitchen, I'll 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 5: make a gourmet meal. 38 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Right. 39 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 5: And so we run people as independent WFP people sometimes 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 5: when we can, if there's a path to win, Like, 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 5: for example, how many of you know who Tis James is? 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely okay. What you may not know is that Attorney general, 43 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: that's right. 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 5: She started as an independent Working Families candidate in two 45 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 5: thousand and three and worked her way up to becoming 46 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 5: Attorney General. 47 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: She was a lawyer. 48 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 5: She was a public defender and a consumer protection lawyer, 49 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 5: and the political establishment wanted nothing to do with her, 50 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 5: the white establishment, the black establishment, the Democratic Party establishment, 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: and we joined forces with her, and historically we defeated 52 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 5: the Republicans and Democrats and got her elected as a 53 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: city council person. Right, not too far from here in Brooklyn. 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 5: She worked her way all the way up to become 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 5: Attorney General, which is historic. But what does she do 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 5: when she had that authority? She used it in order 57 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 5: to hold the powerful accountable. Right, So everybody talks about 58 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 5: the thirty four felonies, the thirty four felonies, holding this 59 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 5: man who always had a silver spoon in his mouth, 60 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: who used his power to make sure that black folks 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 5: couldn't rent in his homes. When he became president, often 62 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 5: used his powers to enrich him and his friends. He 63 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 5: never faced accountability. He finally faced accountability when an independent 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 5: black woman gave him that work. Brought to you in 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: part by the Working Families Party, right, And so I 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 5: remember I'm from New York. I remember in New York 67 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: when we had a Republican governor, a Republican mayor, Republicans 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 5: of the state Senate. 69 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: It was through the Working Families Party. 70 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 5: People talk about down ballot races, right, actually focusing on 71 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: down ballot races, so that in city council and in 72 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 5: state legislatures, we moved the establishment closer to the people 73 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 5: so we could deliver on a fifteen dollar minimum wage. 74 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 5: Now that's the floor. You hear a lot of Democrats 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 5: talking about a fifteen dollar minimum wage. They weren't talking 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: about that until we created the conditions to make that 77 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: the floor. So where the folks who are always going 78 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: to focus on the issues of everyday working people. And look, 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: there's a lot of people talking about third party approaches. 80 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 5: I'll just end with this. There is an approach that 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: believes that every four years you could run at the 82 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 5: top of the ticket a third party candidate for president 83 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: and then somehow that will create the conditions in order 84 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: for people to be able to get a little bit 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 5: more freedom. However, what we've seen is like, look nineteen 86 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 5: ninety two, what was that. That was when a billionaire 87 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: Ross Perrot put all of his money down right, so 88 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: he had all of the money in the world and 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: he couldn't break twenty percent. He got eighteen point nine percent. 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: That told us, as the Working Families Party, that the 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 5: top down third party approach isn't viable for working people. 92 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 5: But the bottom up approach that's viable. So we started 93 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: off in New York. We're now in twenty places, we're 94 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 5: in twenty states, and we're putting in that work. We 95 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 5: endorse close to one thousand down ballet candidates. 96 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Right. 97 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 5: So, President and I know we're going to talk about 98 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 5: a lot of this. We're going to talk about the pushback. Look, 99 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 5: people are talking about the president. That is really important, 100 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: But the president doesn't make the laws. Congress makes the laws, 101 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 5: city council makes the laws, State legislature makes the laws, 102 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 5: and so working families. 103 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: What we do often is when you have. 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: Especially Democrats who are corporate Democrats who have either they 105 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 5: forgotten their way or never had their way, and they're 106 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 5: more accountable to lobbyists and corporations. Well we're the force 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 5: that kicks them out and replaces them with working families 108 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 5: candidates through primaries, right, and we've delivered in terms of 109 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 5: like the concrete things that actually matter. So in Philadelphia, right, 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 5: we I mean, look, I'm sorry, we have so many receipts, 111 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 5: We have CVS long receipts, right, But it's important that 112 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: people know this. So in Philadelphia, this is a city 113 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 5: where Democrats and Republicans were on City Council, and we 114 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 5: kicked off the two Republicans and replaced them with Working 115 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 5: Families Party candidates Kendrick Brooks and Nicholas O'Rourke. Why is 116 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 5: that important? Kendra is from nice Town. You could still 117 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 5: go to Nice Town. She's right there. She's on City 118 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 5: Council because of this movement that we built, and when 119 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: she got on City Council, it was historic. She was 120 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 5: the first non Democrat or Republican to get on city council. 121 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: Right. 122 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 5: And we were actually with Kendra a few days ago 123 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 5: putting in work in North Philly and West Philly. 124 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Right. 125 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 5: And the important thing about Kendra Brooks and why governance 126 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: is so important, is that when she was there, we 127 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 5: didn't just do a victory party because she got there. 128 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: She organized all the folks in city Council so that 129 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 5: during COVID in twenty twenty, when people were sheltering in 130 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 5: place and they couldn't draw an income and many people 131 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 5: were concerned about getting kicked out on the streets because 132 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 5: their landlords wanted rent, she created eviction diversion program in 133 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: Philly that was temporary. Fast forward to today, we've made 134 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 5: it permanent. And right now there's an affordability crisis. A 135 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: lot of working people, a lot of people are listening, 136 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 5: are struggling to figure out how they stay at home. 137 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: In Philadelphia, there's a forty one percent decrease in evictions 138 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 5: because of that policy brought to you by Kendrick Brooks 139 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: and the Working Families Party. So the Working Families Party 140 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 5: is about putting results down for everyday working people. 141 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: What got you involved with the Working Family Forwardyvitor. 142 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 7: Well, amen to everything, Mare, he said. What got me 143 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 7: involved is really just my passion for politics. I went 144 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 7: to seat in Hall for political science, and you know, 145 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 7: they reached out to me and my husband too, and 146 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 7: it was like, look, how can we get involved, And 147 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 7: really it was just a natural, I think, organic relationship. 148 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 7: I am really you know, big in Jersey, big in 149 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 7: my community, and then you know, doing things for the 150 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 7: pushback was how we kind of first initially connected. And 151 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 7: the pushback just made me honestly more aware of Project 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five and how I needed to use my voice. 153 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 7: So we went to Philly. We've been canvassing, knocking on doors, 154 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 7: going to people, making sure that early voting is happening. 155 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 7: So really just getting involved was a natural, organic relationship. 156 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 7: And I'm glad that working Families is using the culture, 157 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 7: you know, because of I guess you know, influence that 158 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 7: we have. I wanted to get involved and it's been 159 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 7: making making a difference. 160 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: Well, y'all pushing for the VP, right, I don't have 161 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: your own candidate. 162 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 5: Oh so it's not so yeah, I want to be 163 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: I want to be clear. We're an independent third party 164 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 5: and look, we tell the people the truth. 165 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: So if we can't. 166 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 5: Find inside right, So if we can't find a path 167 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 5: to victory, right, Because one of the ways to just 168 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 5: to define a party is like parties organized winning. And 169 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 5: one way to evaluate a party is to ask what 170 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: is your path to victory and what is your strategy? 171 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Right? 172 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: Those are the questions you should be asking. If we 173 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 5: don't see a path to victory, we don't waste our 174 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: people's time, money and energy. We could not see a 175 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 5: way for us to run a candidate from the WFP 176 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 5: at the top of the ticket. Right, So what we 177 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 5: did it is a binary choice. Anybody that's telling you 178 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: that on Tuesday, anybody but Donald Trump or Kamala Harris 179 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: are gonna are gonna win that election? Are either lying 180 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 5: to you or they don't know the basics of civics 181 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 5: in this country. Right, So when we saw this binary party, No, 182 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: I mean, look, my job as an organizer was to 183 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 5: tell the truth, right, and this isn't directed at anybody 184 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 5: in particular. 185 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: This is just the truth. 186 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 5: Right between now an election day it will be it 187 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 5: is a binary choice either the VP or Donald Trump, 188 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: we'll get elected. And the thing that I want to 189 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 5: say and how it comes back to the pushback, because 190 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: the pushback is a project of our sister organization, Working 191 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: Family's Power. It's a public education right yeah, yeah, pun intended, right, 192 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 5: and it's designed because look, I'm want to go back 193 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 5: to the R and C. How many people remember the 194 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 5: R and C and remember seeing sister and Burrose on 195 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: stage right? 196 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: Of course? 197 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 198 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 5: The reason why that concerned me is that I think 199 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: we could all agree that she was able to establish herself, 200 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 5: she was able to feed her family, she was able 201 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: to become a celebrity through our culture. 202 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: Right could we all agreed that that's true? Okay? So 203 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm a student of history. 204 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 5: I know that black culture has always been a force 205 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 5: to tell the truth, to speak truth to power, has 206 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 5: always played that role. And I also know that when 207 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: folks in our culture have had the ability, that had 208 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 5: the privilege to rise to the highest levels and been 209 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 5: able to establish themselves and celebrity and have a little 210 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 5: money in their pocket, that they always established they kept 211 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: that relationship between them and the streets everyday working class 212 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: black and brown people. 213 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: And so even though you could maybe vote for. 214 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 5: A candidate that will give you a tax cut and 215 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: benefit you because you're in a certain tax bracket, you 216 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: remember the people that brought you there. You remember your 217 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 5: aunties and uncles and cousins, and so there's a. 218 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 7: We kind of leave those people behind. Yes, the average American, 219 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 7: working American, the real people. And that's also again what 220 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 7: makes me so passionate about about the work of working 221 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 7: families and Maurice and his team. You know, it just 222 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 7: makes sense to reach back. Just like you said, you know, 223 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 7: I may have made it to a certain point, but 224 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 7: I still look at people from East Orange or from 225 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 7: certain inner cities North New Jersey and make sure that 226 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 7: they know we care and we see you. And that's 227 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 7: hopefully what will inspire people to vote for whoever you 228 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 7: feel like is going to bring the change that is needed. 229 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 7: But we all you know, I know how I feel, 230 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 7: and not just as a woman, as a black woman. 231 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 7: You know, I'm very excited to see, you know, America 232 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 7: do what they got. 233 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: To do exactly and embers. 234 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 5: What I was going to say is like the Torri 235 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: is on code right, and our artists have never violated 236 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 5: code the way that some artists are violating code right now. 237 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: You think he violated code. 238 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: Any anybody who came up through our culture benefits from 239 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 5: our culture that is now aligned with the extremeist billionaire 240 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 5: agenda of people who grew up in racist, white, authoritarian, 241 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 5: fascist South Africa like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and 242 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 5: then kme here as immigrants, and Elon Musk as an 243 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 5: undocumented immigrant star was able to basically invest in companies 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 5: and make all of this wealth in order to advance 245 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: his agenda. When you're rocking with them and you're not 246 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: rocking with an agenda that will put more money in 247 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 5: everyday working people's pockets, to me, that's a violation of code. 248 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,239 Speaker 1: So absolutely it Look if the shoot. 249 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 6: Is seen it before, right, We've seen it before in history, 250 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 6: and we need to take a Sammy Davis Jr. 251 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: Richard Nixon and the Republic National Convention, and. 252 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 5: We need to call it out and we need to 253 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: re establish code, and part of that is re establishing 254 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 5: a connection. So it's it's not simply about an event 255 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: or anything else. So with the pushback, the artists are 256 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 5: using their platforms, people like Notori, and we've had other 257 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: artists in this conversation, you know, folks like Killer Mike 258 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 5: and Taraji p Henson and Tianna Taylor and Mano and Fabulous. 259 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 5: You know, it's like it's like the Avengers to dispel 260 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: misinformation and disinformation, right, because I have no problem how 261 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 5: you vote, as long as you're voting from the standpoint 262 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 5: of the facts. 263 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: And the forum and you're informed, right, And. 264 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 5: There's so much misinformation and disinformation that flat out lies 265 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: going out, we felt we needed to engage this project, 266 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 5: the pushback. 267 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: But back to your question, I feel like there's. 268 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 5: Three categories of people who are currently violating code, and 269 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: you have fifty cent on recently, right, Okay, And I 270 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 5: remember he said that they want to say this, No, 271 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 5: I want to bring it up because no, listen because look, 272 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 5: look he spilt the tea. They wanted to offer him 273 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 5: the bag three million dollars to his credit. He denied 274 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 5: the bag. He denied the bag, right, right. And so 275 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: there's three categories. People who have accepted the bag, which 276 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 5: means they don't believe any of this, right, they're willing 277 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: to swallow their pride and accept a white supremacist agenda 278 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 5: for the bag. Then there's people who actually believe in 279 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 5: the agenda and they're taking the bag. And I think 280 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 5: the third category to me is the saddest life. You're 281 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 5: not even getting the bag, and you're so thirsty for 282 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 5: their approval that you're willing to use your platform, use 283 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: your voice in order to advance the billionaire extremists agenda, 284 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 5: the Project twenty twenty five agenda, because like, elections are 285 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 5: not about oh, you know, the orange crazy man and 286 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 5: what he says and the black lady, right, elections are 287 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: about the future. Elections are about agendas, which is why 288 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 5: we're so focused on the public education around Project twenty 289 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 5: twenty five because on one side is the Project twenty 290 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: twenty five agenda. 291 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: And then there's been been. 292 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 5: People who said, like, well, I don't believe Donald Trump 293 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 5: read Project twenty twenty five exactly. That's the point of 294 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 5: Project twenty twenty five. 295 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: He asked you one question though, Yeah, so what about 296 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: those artist and note athletes that came from the same 297 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: place of our culture, right, that's right, made a lot 298 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: of money from our culture in a different tax bracket, 299 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: but say nothing. How do you look at those individuals 300 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: like though it is azili want to them that say 301 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: absolutely positively nothing? Well, is that the same thing as 302 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: is what you figure Amber Rose is doing. 303 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: I believe that neutrality in times of high contradictions and 304 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 5: neutralities and times when we need to speak the truth 305 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: supports the status quo. But I put folks who are 306 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: not speaking in a different category. I'm an organizer and 307 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: I can relate to that. So there's so much misinformation 308 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: and disinformation people actually don't know. So how are you 309 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 5: going to speak if you don't know? 310 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: It's my job. This is why I'm so happy to 311 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: be here. 312 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: It's my job as an organizer to be able to shame, 313 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 5: you know, speak the truth, as my mom says, speak 314 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 5: the truth and shame the devil. Right, So that those 315 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 5: artists and also they do they put a lot of 316 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 5: work in in order to intimidate people with platforms to 317 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: say shut up and dance. Shut up and sent shut 318 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: up and dribble, right, Matt Barnes is a part of 319 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 5: the conversation. So so what I say is, if you 320 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 5: are somebody with the platform and you're not speaking because 321 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: you don't know, it's your job to seek out organizations, 322 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 5: seek out trusted messengers, seek out organizations like working Families party. 323 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: It's our job to reach out to you so that 324 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: you can have the information. Now, look, there are people 325 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,239 Speaker 5: who are part of our culture who are black conservatives. 326 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: Those are that's a different category. Right. 327 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 5: There's always been conservatives in our culture who are part 328 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 5: of our culture, and they look at things a little 329 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 5: bit differently. But a lot of those folks, a lot 330 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 5: of those folks are too, are are looking with their 331 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 5: eyes and looking at what they're saying and doing, and 332 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: even though they have conservative leadings, are saying, oh, well, 333 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: what happened in Madison Square Guardian, that was the garden 334 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 5: that was a hate rally. 335 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: Right. 336 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 5: So, simply because you might have a leaning in one 337 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: direction or a different direction, doesn't mean you can't see 338 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 5: with your eyes and listen with your ears what these 339 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 5: people are saying. I'm just saying when they say who 340 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 5: they are, believe that and look, if it was months ago, 341 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: I would feel a little bit different if it was 342 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 5: months ago. But we're within a week until this election, 343 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: and we're not too we're taping this from New York. 344 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: We're not too far away from what only be described 345 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 5: as a hate rally that took place at Masking Square Garden. 346 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 5: This isn't even a hard choice in terms of the contrast. Right, Look, 347 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: they came for everybody. They came for Latinos in jail. 348 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 5: They're specifying their hate now like Latinos in general, let's 349 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 5: focus on the Puerto Ricans. Oh, you knew we hate Palestinians, 350 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: but did you know we hate Palestinian toddlers? Right, this 351 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 5: is who they are. They're saying what they will do. 352 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 5: They printed their manual, which is why I'm so happy 353 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: that they put it online so you could download Project 354 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Now it's up to us to get information. 355 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 5: I'm asking everybody, everybody vote, vote, But your job doesn't 356 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 5: just end there, you because voting is a team sport, 357 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 5: So go with other people. If you're able to vote early, 358 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 5: vote early, if you can mail in your ballot, mail 359 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 5: in your ballot, or on November fifth, go and vote 360 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: and bring people along. And then I'll also say we 361 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: have to reach as many people as possible, so, you know, 362 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 5: problems on the story because she was on these streets 363 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 5: right at early voting locations in Philly and. 364 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: The lines were crazy. In Philly. People want to be engaged. 365 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 7: People want to vote early because they know that there's 366 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 7: gonna be some games that it will be played, you know, 367 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 7: they try to yeah, and so we know that there's 368 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 7: a lot of that happening, so we have to kind 369 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 7: of be proactive and get to those polls early. And 370 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 7: I was happy being in Philly just the other day 371 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 7: and seeing so many people, you know, trying to figure out, 372 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 7: first off, why is Tasha there. And I was like, 373 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 7: I'm here because it's important to make sure your vote counts. 374 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 7: And by them waking up and paying attention, it makes 375 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 7: them know that they matter and that their voice matters. 376 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: And one thing that Mas say. 377 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 7: Made me think about even a quote with I think 378 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 7: doctor King said, you know, a threat to injustice anywhere 379 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 7: is a threat. 380 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: To justice everywhere. 381 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 7: So when you spoke about people who are neutral, you know, 382 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 7: even though everyone doesn't have to to you know, have 383 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 7: the same point of view. But if you are you know, 384 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 7: complacent to injustice? How are you promoting justice? So that 385 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 7: quietness or that neutrality might uh, you know, I guess 386 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 7: fuel the fire for those who don't want to see justice, 387 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 7: who don't want equality, who don't want women to have 388 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 7: rights over their bodies, who don't want you know, working 389 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 7: people to be able to make a living wage, people 390 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 7: who don't want that. You're almost your neutrality is almost 391 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 7: saying it's okay. 392 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 8: Work wise though, because I know a lot of celebrities, 393 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 8: even if they're going to go vote, they stay quiet 394 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 8: because they don't want to mess up roles or have 395 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 8: certain audiences not come out and see or whatever. 396 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: Have you seen? 397 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 8: Things pull back from you because you're not quiet and 398 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 8: you're very upfront, and it's a very strong message that 399 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 8: you guys are pushing workwise. 400 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: Is anything changed or you lost opportunities because of that? 401 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 6: Not? 402 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: No, not, not really not. 403 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 7: Not In this time in my life, I have an 404 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 7: experien instead of anything I think people look at me 405 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 7: or even the show that I was a part of 406 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 7: and the work that I've done, I've always been a 407 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 7: risk taker, to be honest, I mean, play Little Kim Hello. 408 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 7: But I think from the beginning of my career, even 409 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 7: post three or w you know, little Kim power. I 410 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 7: don't think I'm afraid of what people might say or think. 411 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 7: I'm more, I think, interested in the legacy that I 412 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 7: leave behind. I'm more interested in how people will then 413 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 7: be inspired by me taking a stand. I'm more interested 414 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 7: in how when I'm gone, what did I leave behind. 415 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 7: So I think, you know, obviously, Hollywood and there's always politics, 416 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 7: and we do have to play the game. 417 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: We all know that. 418 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 7: But I think that people may even look to me 419 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 7: to be that voice that they they may not have 420 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 7: that microphone, so as I do. I think, you know, 421 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 7: that's what I'm more empowered by. So Fortunately I'm able 422 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 7: to work. Fortunately, you know, I can feed my family. 423 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 7: But at the same time, I get to be who 424 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 7: I truly am. 425 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: You want to be in politics, I did. 426 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: I did. 427 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 7: I thought about, actually, you know, after being in the 428 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 7: music business, I was kind of done with that for 429 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 7: a while, and I wanted to be a lawyer. And 430 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 7: then I thought about, you know, as a political science 431 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 7: major at Seaton Hall University, I thought about pursuing a 432 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 7: career in politics or lawmaking. I really wish that I 433 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 7: could change policy as a as a young person, I 434 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 7: remember thinking post three l W. I was eighteen years old, 435 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 7: freshly out of the group, went to school, and I 436 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 7: was like, if only there were policies to protect young artists. 437 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: That's really what it was about for me. 438 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 7: And political science was an avenue that I knew if 439 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 7: I continued, and I actually was offered an internship at 440 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 7: Capitol Hill. I actually used to sing for all the 441 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 7: politicians in Jersey, the mayor, so you know, Sharp James 442 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 7: and Nork and everyone really knew me. So for me, 443 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 7: politicians and politics was somewhat you know, it had a 444 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 7: synergy in my life. 445 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: What's the one thing that you would change? You said, 446 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, do this to change things for artists. What's 447 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: the one thing that you would change for those artists 448 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: that you just was. 449 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: Like, it's just not right. 450 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 3: I think now some of that is changing. 451 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 7: Back then, I wanted artists to have more autonomy, more power, 452 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 7: more ownership. I think now one thing I would change 453 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 7: more so as an actress or in Hollywood is ability 454 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 7: to create our own projects without relying on other people's money. 455 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 7: If we could get funding or if there was like 456 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 7: an organization that specifically focused I mean there are, but 457 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 7: specifically gave funding and opportunities to black people and black filmmakers, 458 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 7: and there are a handful. 459 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: But if we. 460 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 7: Had a larger central hub, I would change this idea 461 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 7: of needing approval but also not being able to create, 462 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 7: not having ownership. So if we could make our work 463 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 7: like an artist who sings. I was a recording artist 464 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 7: and now I'm an actress. But if we could have 465 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 7: more ownership and actual control over the narrative, because the 466 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 7: stories are often told from another point of view and 467 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 7: you just are plugged into it, you know, for the poster. 468 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: But if we actually were. 469 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 7: Behind the scenes and doing more in that category, I 470 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 7: think that would make. 471 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: Us way more powerful. 472 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 6: That's more important now than ever before, especially with what 473 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 6: you see they're doing in schools where they don't even 474 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 6: want to teach you real history. 475 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: So we won't tell our stories if we don't. 476 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 7: Well, that's actually part of what me and Maurice we're 477 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 7: just talking about Projects twenty twenty five is taking away 478 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 7: you know, what is it? The woke agenda and they're 479 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 7: afraid of teaching that, which is crazy to me because 480 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 7: I think about my daughters seven years old. She's in 481 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 7: second grade, and some of these things will affect her 482 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 7: trajectory as a student in this you know, in this life. 483 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 7: So I'm like, wait a minute, no, now it's on 484 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 7: me as a parent. But it also should be a 485 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 7: sense of accountability in our schools and our systems to 486 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 7: make sure that they can't eliminate true American history. It's 487 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 7: not just black history. This is American history. We built 488 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 7: this country. We did a lot of the work on 489 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 7: the backs of slaves and slavery, so let's not eradicate 490 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 7: that and make it as if it didn't happen. 491 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: That was one of the things we just said. 492 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: That's right. 493 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 5: And the thing about the way that that connects to 494 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 5: Project twenty five, especially with artists, and it's this is 495 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 5: a big manual. It's more than nine hundred pages, so 496 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 5: they're coming for everybody, they're coming for artists, create they 497 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: have a very creepy agenda. So you don't get into 498 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 5: page five before they're talking about outlawing pornography and putting 499 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 5: pornographers in jail, in prison. But I want to explain 500 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 5: what that would actually do if you're an artist, right, 501 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 5: So the line between art and pornography that is subjective, right, 502 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: So what they want in terms of having artists have 503 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 5: control and more power. They want to eliminate that. So 504 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 5: from people who currently are making money on OnlyFans, to 505 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: people who are content creators, to when you talk about 506 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: edgy art, were often talking about our art black and brown. 507 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: Folks hip hop. 508 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 5: That's often we're pushing the boundaries right, and so they'll 509 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 5: be in a position to say, hey, that video we 510 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 5: listen to, they're already listening to our lyrics and we're 511 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 5: getting caught up because our lyrics. They'll have more authority 512 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 5: to do that and not just prevent it from happening, 513 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 5: but also putting people behind bars. They say they want 514 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 5: to put educators and librarians behind bars off of this 515 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 5: trying to eliminate the woke agenda. And for us in here, 516 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 5: we know when they say woke, it's not become code 517 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: for the ND word. It's a way for them to 518 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 5: be able to say what they want to say in 519 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: a different way. So when they say they want to 520 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: eliminate woke, they want to eliminate our history. And the 521 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: reason why they want to eliminate black history is because 522 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: it's American history. What happens when white children, black children 523 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 5: Latino children learn actual American history and learn about the 524 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: oppression of our history. They want to fight oppression as adults, 525 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: and they don't want you to fight oppression because that 526 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 5: means you're finding that the status quot These are people 527 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: with an awful lot of power and money, and they're 528 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 5: not comfortable with the power money they want they want more, 529 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 5: and so it's about them having more power money and 530 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 5: you having less power money. That's basically what the agenda is. 531 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: And if you're if you're an artist, you should be concerned. 532 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 5: If you're a parent, you should be concerned. If you're 533 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 5: a black man, you should be concerned for a black man. 534 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 5: Because this is the agenda about making national stop and frisk. 535 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 5: They want that to be national. Right, So there's no 536 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 5: city or state you could avoid the stop and frisk agenda. 537 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Right. 538 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 5: How many of you know what qualified immunity is, absolutely right. 539 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 5: So that's the law that emboldens police officers, so they 540 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: know that if they shoot or kill us that they 541 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 5: have protection, so they won't face any accountability. 542 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 7: It's already hard to get them indicted or if it's 543 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 7: something happens, you know, so imagine with qualified immunity, how 544 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 7: that will affect so much. 545 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: Why George exactly exactly? 546 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 5: And there's there's one there's one candidate the way who 547 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: actually was a part of George Floyd Policing Act. And 548 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 5: to me, listen, I came through the Movement for Black Lives. 549 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 5: So George Floyd is the Police Policing Act. To me, 550 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 5: that is the floor, right. The Moment for Black Lives 551 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 5: talks about the Breed Act. To me, that's the ceiling. 552 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Right. 553 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 5: So there's there's one candidate that's talking about how do 554 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 5: we get that passed. There's another candidate that's talking about 555 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: day one I want to execute quote. 556 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: Unquote drug dealers or who are the drug dealers? 557 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 5: Like, if we have an honest conversation in our society, 558 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 5: when our society thinks about drug dealers, who comes to mind. 559 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: The pharmaceutical companies. 560 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 5: Are they talking about the Sackler family, who are the 561 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 5: greatest drug dealers in the history of this country? Right? 562 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 5: Or are they talking about somebody else? Are they talking 563 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 5: about black and brown people? 564 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: Right? 565 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: So when they say these things, we must believe them. 566 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 6: Do you think that enough is well? First of all, 567 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 6: y'all on the ground, y'all been on the ground, yep. 568 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 6: What do you think is gonna happen to this? 569 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: So I don't make predictions, right, but what I can you're. 570 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: Excited, I'm excited. 571 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 7: I feel inspired, excited and hopeful. 572 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: It's fact. 573 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't listen when I'm so like. We do 574 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 5: things online, but we're also outside, right, and so when 575 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 5: I leave here, I'm going to be in Phoenix, I'm 576 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: gonna be in Milwaukee, I'll be back in Philly, and 577 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 5: we're with the people. And so I get nothing but 578 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: excitement and joy from being with the people. Because if 579 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 5: you're scrolling online and you're getting caught up in that 580 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: misinformation and disinformation, part of that is to make you 581 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 5: feel cynical. Yes, I like to say the cynicism is 582 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 5: a political project of the far right and the status quo, 583 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: because you'll just be like, oh man, we can't do nothing. 584 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 7: As a matter anyway, I'm not as well just not. 585 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: Vote exactly, But when you're actually outside and you knock 586 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 5: on some doors. By the way, I want to encourage people, right, 587 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 5: don't just vote. There's still an opportunity, And if I may, 588 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 5: I'd like to shout out some opportunities for folks to 589 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 5: be able to knock on doors. So if you're listening 590 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: to this, text the word power pun intended, text the 591 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: word power to three zero four zero three. If you 592 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 5: text the word power to three zero four zero three 593 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 5: wherever you are, you could volunteer to knock on doors, 594 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 5: to have conversations with your neighbors, to do phone banks, 595 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 5: to even text. Why because in the final days, it's 596 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 5: not about what the politicians say. It's not about you know, 597 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 5: I'm sure you're getting a lot of TV ads and 598 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 5: digital ads and all that stuff. It's about what everyday 599 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 5: people say to their neighbors. And you're an everyday person. 600 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: They want you to believe the lie that you have 601 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 5: no power when you're on these streets and you're seeing 602 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 5: these long lines. 603 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: Yep. 604 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: And look, remember we saw that elder. Do you remember 605 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: that elder? Right? And she. 606 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 7: Was on the line and she said that she had 607 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 7: been waiting I think, like I mean months. She said 608 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 7: they were supposed to send her ballot, you know, in Philly. 609 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 7: She kept applying and she sent it in. She called 610 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 7: it was a lot of things that just weren't coming, 611 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 7: and it didn't come in the mail. So she said, 612 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 7: I knew I had to come on down here. And 613 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 7: get here for early voting. And you know, she was 614 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 7: an elderly woman, and so we made arrangement, you know, 615 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 7: to try to get her in where she didn't have 616 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 7: to wait on that line. But I was thinking to myself, 617 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 7: my gosh, imagine some people don't have the ability to 618 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 7: access the patience. 619 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 8: My mom was selling strength she went to they changed 620 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 8: the voting locations. A lot of people in our neighborhood 621 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 8: they don't have like they can't just get in a 622 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 8: car and drive somewhere. 623 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: They're on public transportation. 624 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 8: So she was saying that, like they were trying to 625 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 8: figure out, like just making how to like everybody get 626 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 8: together and go to this new location. But they never 627 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 8: sent out the new location in the mail. So a 628 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 8: lot of people don't even know you just gonna last 629 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 8: minute go voting. 630 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: They keep saying they're going to send it. And that's 631 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: exactly what any did. 632 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 8: Income But so you guys use power as the push. 633 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 8: But how many times when you out with the people, 634 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 8: they're like. 635 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: Oh my godsha and that helped. 636 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: That states you know, actually they yes, because. 637 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 7: We have figured out a way to in New York. 638 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 7: Uh former inmates ken vote. But it's so funny because yes, 639 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 7: we were out just the other day and people, I 640 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 7: think do feel like a little confused, shocked. 641 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: Exciting seeing you. 642 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 8: It was just like when you walked in, I was like, oh, 643 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 8: look at Tasha, Like it's just hard. 644 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 7: It's not funny because I know, and I'm always like, well, 645 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 7: my name is Liturri like yeah, yeah, yeah, Butha. I'm 646 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 7: gonna just put that in my middle name from now 647 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 7: on because I But the beauty of that is that 648 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 7: when you're a part of something, it's just like the wire, 649 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 7: you know, and you look back at shows or even 650 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 7: the sopranos or certain things when power has you know, 651 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 7: I've been in the show for ten years and I'm 652 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 7: still alive. 653 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: I think I'm out of witness protection now. Actually yeah. 654 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: But what I will say. 655 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 7: Is that it does give a platform and also people 656 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 7: to you know, just kind of wake up their senses 657 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 7: a little bit and say, Okay, if this matters in 658 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 7: this part of the culture, then it. 659 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: Should matter to me. 660 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 5: And it breaks the cynicism right because there's so many 661 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 5: messages you don't matter, nobody cares when somebody as iconic 662 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: as as Tasha is actually in your neighborhood impressing why 663 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 5: you why you matter enough to vote while your vote 664 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 5: matters in Philly or in in Wisconsin, in Milwaukee or 665 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 5: any of these other places. It kind of breaks the 666 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 5: lie of cynicism. So you get to have a real 667 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 5: conversation about the issues. 668 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 7: And also when I say and I also want to 669 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 7: make sure people know me too, you know, when when 670 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 7: you are a character, you want them to know in 671 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 7: your real life this matters. 672 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: So I'm Nuri. I always see you. 673 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 7: Know, of course we play as Tasha, but I'm Theuri 674 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 7: and Naturi cares. And Naturi was a straight A student, 675 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 7: and Naturi went to school for political science. And Naturi 676 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 7: has a family. I'm a mother, and I also, you know, 677 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 7: had a pregnancy where I struggled with the thoughts of 678 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 7: having an abortion in all honesty, and I know what 679 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 7: so many women are dealing with and not being not 680 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 7: you know, not wanting to feel judged. And I think 681 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 7: that's a real thing. 682 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: I'm old talking. 683 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 6: I was born in nineteen seventy. The character is not 684 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 6: bigger than thery than me. 685 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 8: Yeah. 686 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 7: I I feel like because I was a teenager has power. 687 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you'll have a grown grown. 688 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, for these young as they they late. 689 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 7: But I appreciate you saying that because that's also why 690 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 7: I do the work that I do, because it's not 691 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 7: just about one avenue. Power is one thing, but I'm 692 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 7: gonna do more things. I'm directing, I'm producing, you know, 693 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 7: I'm I'm growing as an artist, but as really I 694 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 7: think as a person, and I think my womanhood, my motherhood, 695 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 7: my wifehood has allowed me to tap into these different 696 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 7: areas in a way that is natural because I don't 697 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 7: want other women, other mothers and other wives to feel 698 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 7: that their voices aren't heard. So I'm stepping in his 699 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 7: noturi for I. 700 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 8: Have two questions for you. You say, and you don't 701 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 8: have to talk about this if you're not comfortable. But 702 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 8: you you just said that you struggled with the thoughts 703 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 8: of abortion. 704 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: Yes, why like, well, no, I just. 705 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 7: I wasn't sure that I wanted to have my first child. 706 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: I never really talked. 707 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 7: About this, but essentially, I think that when I was 708 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 7: shooting Power, I became pregnant. It was an unexpected pregnancy 709 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 7: and I'm super blessed. My daughter Zeri is amazing and 710 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 7: I'm so glad she's here. But in all honesty. I 711 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 7: wrote and directed my first short film. It's called three 712 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 7: to three, and it's about somewhat an experience that I 713 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 7: had and also the mental anguish of making that choice. 714 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 7: And I wanted to use film as a way to 715 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 7: give women and people and there's men, you know. I 716 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 7: have Burgundy Baker who stars in it, from the Shy John, 717 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 7: Clarence Stewart, Venessa Bell Callaway, and this film Three to 718 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 7: three just gives us a chance to look at the 719 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 7: issue of abortion in not a politicized way, but in 720 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 7: a human way deal with So my experience just made 721 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 7: me realize, like even me, even though I was on 722 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 7: a hit show this is season four and power was 723 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 7: at its height, I didn't know if I could be 724 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 7: a good mother, and I wasn't sure if I would 725 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 7: be enough. I didn't know if I was gonna make 726 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 7: enough money. I didn't know if the show was gonna 727 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 7: get canceled, Like there were so many things. I didn't 728 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 7: know if I was gonna get married, you know, and 729 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 7: I didn't. I became a single mom very quickly, so 730 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 7: you know, until I met my husband when my daughter 731 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 7: is almost two. 732 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't really sure. 733 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 7: So I'll just say that that's what I channeled those emotions, 734 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 7: and that's also why women's rights and reproductive rights is 735 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 7: so important to me at this time. 736 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, three. 737 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 6: Three three, the ascended masters are right by your side, 738 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 6: assisting you with whatever it is that you're focusing on. 739 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 7: That's why three three three, And it's also just this interesting. Yeah, 740 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 7: there's so much power in those numbers. And you'll see, 741 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 7: like when you see my film, which would be out 742 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 7: next year in festivals. But essentially it is completion and 743 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 7: also what you focus on, it will come. So whatever 744 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 7: your choice is, don't feel haunted by that and just 745 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 7: be able to go forth and focus on the future. 746 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 7: And that's what my feeling is about. 747 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 8: And then my second question was you talked about earlier 748 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 8: people wanting people to know you outside of power. Yeah, 749 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 8: and when he brought a fifty earlier, you were like, 750 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 8: oh my god, I didn't even want that to come up. 751 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: And you knew that was coming up, but that a 752 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. 753 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 8: You So you talk to Celia from TMZ and and 754 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 8: that clip was everywhere. Yeah, your response to your response 755 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 8: to fifty cent responding fifty and what he was saying 756 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 8: up here about Omari and you basically saying like Omari 757 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 8: was ghosts, Ghosts was power. So you didn't agree with 758 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 8: what Fifty said up here that picked up everywhere, And 759 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 8: did you you regret saying that? 760 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 3: Is that while you were like, oh my. 761 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,959 Speaker 7: God, oh, I don't regret saying anything that I say 762 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 7: in most cases. But I think that, you know, I 763 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 7: was just being honest, you know, And and it's no 764 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 7: no shade to fifty. He has his feelings and I 765 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 7: don't know all of the issues that went down, like 766 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 7: I said in that interview, but I think overall, I 767 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 7: was just trying to express that, you know, power was 768 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 7: something that started this whole journey of creating stars the 769 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 7: stars at and I'm grateful for the opportunity in fifty 770 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 7: and Courtney gave me that opportunity. So you know, at 771 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 7: the end of the day, I know that there's politics 772 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 7: involved in their positions as well. So I respect fifty, 773 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 7: but I also have to honor what Omari Hardwick brought 774 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 7: to the table. And all I said in that interview 775 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 7: was that, you know, I feel like he is kind 776 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 7: of a staple in the power world that we can 777 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 7: never undervalue him either. So I just think that as people, 778 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 7: particularly as black people, I'll just say this, as black people, 779 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 7: we have to remember to be okay with valuing each 780 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 7: other and really celebrate those moments when we get to 781 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 7: a plateau or high moment in our careers. 782 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 3: Even in your field. 783 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 7: You know, you guys negotiate and do deals because you 784 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 7: know you're worth and there's always going to be somebody 785 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 7: who tells you, na, you're not worth, that you shouldn't 786 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 7: and that's debatable, and that's not for me to say 787 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 7: what money he should That's I'm not in anybody's you know, checks. 788 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 7: I focus on my check. But know your power and 789 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 7: also know your worth, and it's okay to push for 790 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 7: you know what you feel your worth. 791 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: That's all y'a. I want to ask. 792 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: We had uh. 793 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 7: Mitteraraji said the same thing, so this is you know, 794 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 7: it's all relative. 795 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: We had Mickey Gotton country singer. 796 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: Oh yes, was she a member of three Yes? 797 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 7: So I forgot that Mickey was the first member of 798 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 7: three W until Adrian and I recently reunited and Adrian 799 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 7: sent me a picture of them with Mickey and she 800 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 7: was singing the National and I was like, oh my gosh, 801 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 7: that's right, because they told me there was a country 802 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 7: she was a girl. She wasn't a country artist then, 803 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 7: but I think she lived somewhere and then she her 804 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 7: parents pulled her out of the group, and I think 805 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 7: that's how I wound up getting an audition for but 806 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 7: I had forgot I was fifteen, So Adrine remembered and 807 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 7: reminded me, and then I was like, I want to 808 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 7: meet her when I mean, we've never met. She's so dope, 809 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 7: her voice is crazy. But how I was thinking, like 810 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 7: at that time, I was like, girl, you dodged a bullet. 811 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: But because she has. 812 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 3: Her own career. 813 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, I think I'm 814 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 7: happy that, you know, whatever happened with three W it 815 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 7: was supposed to happen that way. 816 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 3: And here I am too. 817 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 8: How does the reunion field because now y'all both from moms. 818 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 8: I know you guys, you haven't shared experience, and none 819 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 8: of us will ever understand. 820 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 3: Good and bad. Isn't it crazy? 821 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 7: Me and agent talk about like we need to probably 822 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 7: talk about this in a formal setting, but I'm very 823 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 7: grateful that we are reunited. She's a mom, she's a wife, 824 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 7: and I'm it's almost like that life brings us closer together. 825 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 7: Although there was so much tension in that time period, 826 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 7: we look back and actually say, oh, remember when that happened. 827 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 7: Oh girl, like this is what I was thinking back then, 828 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 7: and it actually brings us closer. 829 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 3: I'm so happy for her now. 830 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 7: I mean, we we actually invite each other to each 831 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 7: other's homes and she was at my baby shower. It's 832 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 7: just unbelievable that someone that you know, I didn't think 833 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 7: I would ever speak to again is. 834 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 3: Not my friend. 835 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: Did y'all make any promises to each other? Y'all would 836 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: never have. 837 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: So messy child. Did y'all make any promise with. 838 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 6: We did? 839 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 5: Not? 840 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 3: No more, no more, baby, I'm gonna do right. 841 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 5: I'm not. 842 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 8: No. 843 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 7: We just continue to support each other and I don't 844 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 7: talk to the promises. 845 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: Lady, But that never happened. 846 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: You know. 847 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 7: God is good and look at what he's doing and 848 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 7: in my life. So you just can never say never, 849 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 7: so you can do it. 850 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 6: God is good talking about you and Adrian, like you 851 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 6: know you to never have any issues between each other. 852 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: Really should like what I should. 853 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: Throw this at him? 854 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 8: I have the. 855 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: God is really so, I wanted to ask Maurice. 856 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, one of the biggest misconceptions because you said something 857 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 6: earlier that was very important voting. 858 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be an informable absolutely. 859 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 6: One of the biggest things I hear people say is 860 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 6: if you try to talk to him about policy, like 861 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 6: what the economy was better, Oh, under you know Trump, 862 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 6: and it's better under Republicans. I learned this in the 863 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 6: last couple of months. That's just been a false narrative 864 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 6: all of these years that. 865 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 5: This is this is misinformation and disinformation. All right, So, 866 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 5: first of all, Donald Trump inherited the Obama economy. Right, 867 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 5: So whatever economy that you remember when Donald Trump came 868 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 5: into office, that was the Obama economy, the Obama Obama economy. 869 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 5: And look again, to me, the Obama economy is the floor. 870 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 5: I'm with working families. I want an economy that that 871 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 5: in many ways focuses directly on the interest of labor unions, 872 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 5: in ways that we still are trying to get to. 873 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 5: But the Obama economy was generating jobs month after month 874 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 5: after month. So so he inherited that. And then people 875 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 5: don't remember, but if you remember four years ago, we 876 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 5: were under COVID, Right, millions of jobs were lost, right, 877 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 5: people were sheltered in place, and some people say, like, well, 878 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 5: you know that was COVID, but presidents will face untold crises. 879 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 5: COVID happened to be his crisis. What happened when that 880 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 5: man faced that crist he unraveled, talking about injecting bleach 881 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 5: and and his own his own health officials say that 882 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 5: hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives. They didn't 883 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 5: have to because the man couldn't keep it together. And 884 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 5: so when Kamalin, Oh, yeah, I mean, but I want 885 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 5: to talk about the trade wars, right, because the only 886 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 5: thing that we hear this man talk about I'm going 887 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 5: to get into that is tariffs and let me let 888 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 5: me get into that. So so Biden and Harris inherited 889 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 5: this economy that was a the the Trump COVID economy. 890 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 5: And if we remember, I think some of us have 891 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 5: suppressed that memory because it was so traumatic, right, we 892 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 5: don't want to remember it. But so many of our 893 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 5: neighbors died, More than a million people died, so many 894 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 5: of our friends died, families, so many people are out 895 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 5: of work, right, And then they were able to pass 896 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 5: the Recovery Act, which which brought a lot of resources 897 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 5: to state governments into local governments. People talk about the 898 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 5: stimulus check there is a Biden Harris stimulus as well, 899 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 5: and many many other policies which today right, and I 900 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 5: want the economy to work for so many more people, 901 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 5: and I'll get to that. But today this economy is 902 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 5: making jobs, making jobs at manufacturing jobs, making union jobs, right, 903 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 5: And so we have to actually tell the truth about 904 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 5: what's happening. 905 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: But let's talk. 906 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 5: About On one side, there's one policy that's basically tarifs 907 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 5: taris tariffs. And I almost feel bad for this man 908 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 5: because he doesn't look, I'm not an economist, but he 909 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 5: doesn't understand economics one on one, right, Economics one on 910 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 5: one tariffs. 911 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 1: Hurt everyday working people. Right. So it's like China doesn't 912 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: pay the tariffs, You pay the tariffs. Right. So you're 913 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: talking about. 914 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 5: Two thousand percent tariffs that's going on. That is a 915 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 5: tax on working people. So on one side, you're talking 916 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 5: about a tax on working people. On another side, you're 917 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 5: talking about what a six thousand dollars child tax credit, right, 918 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 5: You're talking about twenty five thousand dollars assistance for home buyers. 919 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 5: You're talking about fifty thousand dollars for people who have 920 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 5: a dream or a hustle, or you know, they want 921 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 5: to start a business, or maybe artists that want to 922 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 5: start something entrepreneurs. Right, you're talking about policies that you 923 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 5: could debate, but are focused on the interest of working people. 924 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 5: With housing, you're talking about holding accountable who the largest 925 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 5: corporations who are buying up these units. That that's one 926 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 5: of the reasons why rental process. Yes, so a lot 927 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 5: of these head funds are buying up these homes, that's 928 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 5: why the prices are becoming so high. They're talking about 929 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 5: holding them accountable. 930 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: Right. 931 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 5: So when you talk about the economy also, there's a 932 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 5: lot of people who are saying that the American economy 933 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 5: today right is one of the biggest, most robust economies 934 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 5: in the world right today, and so we need to 935 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 5: tell the truth. I would argue that we can do better, right, 936 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 5: and we have to do better, which is why we 937 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 5: build a Working Families Party, because we're not just interested 938 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 5: in electing somebody and then going home. We want to 939 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 5: fight for more. And in the richest country in the 940 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 5: history of countries, there shouldn't even be homelessness. We shouldn't 941 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 5: even be talking about how to people afford healthcare, and 942 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 5: we know we don't believe any politician is going to 943 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 5: get elected and then give that to us. 944 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: We need to fight for that on the other side 945 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: of this election. 946 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 5: So first job number one is to vote and to 947 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 5: vote out the Project twenty twenty five crew. And it's 948 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 5: bigger than just Project twenty twenty five on the agenda. 949 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: We got to push back on that. And then job 950 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 5: number two after the elect and we need to stand 951 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 5: on business in order to make sure that that this 952 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 5: economy actually works us. Because we know the corporations are 953 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 5: gonna want to be in people's airs. We need to 954 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 5: be in the airs of these politicians as well. But 955 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 5: the contrast is going to be clear, Honestly, y'all, it's 956 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 5: not even a question at this point. I understand if 957 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 5: months ago people had questions, right, and. 958 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: But it's the problem. 959 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what the problem is, right. The 960 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: problem is this, right, And this is what I realized 961 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 2: the other day, Right, Yeah, a lot of people don't 962 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 2: have the time to do the research to see if 963 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 2: the things that they're researching is right. 964 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: Right, And I'm absolutely absolutely. 965 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm watching the World series, right yeah, and they're playing 966 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,879 Speaker 2: ads and people don't know if those ads are really fake? 967 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: Right, so's you're nine to five and you have two jobs. 968 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 2: You come home, you say, you know what, I'm gonna 969 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 2: turn on the World Series while I cook for my 970 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 2: kids and you're watching these ads. You don't know what 971 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 2: to believe in. Not absolutely, And most people don't know 972 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 2: that a lot of those ads are full of shit, yes, 973 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 2: or when they go online to look there's a lot 974 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 2: of stuff that they're looking for. 975 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: And I feel silly. 976 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 2: One online a lot of the stuff that they're looking 977 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 2: for is false. So how do people know what's real 978 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 2: and what's not. I mean they put an ad with 979 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: me and Charlemagne on it. 980 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. 981 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 8: When you saw it that you got your brother sold 982 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 8: you out. 983 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 7: Well, no, I was just like, this is crazy. And Charlemagne, 984 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 7: I know how you know political. We did the movie 985 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,439 Speaker 7: eighty eight together, which was a political thriller about these 986 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 7: very issues and the election and and just super packs. 987 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 7: So it's funny because everything you said is so true, 988 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 7: like they you know, you don't know, and people don't 989 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 7: often have time. So what I want to say to 990 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 7: add to what you said and Marie said, is that 991 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 7: you know, we're just swiping through social media, and that's 992 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 7: the only maybe quick in a hurry. It's like fast 993 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 7: food and fast food, you know, you gotta just eat 994 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 7: because you gotta eat. Sometimes you don't have time or 995 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 7: you may not have the resource or the money to 996 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 7: go get a real meal, so but you got to eat. 997 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go ahead and get this burger were 998 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 7: hopefully it is real meat. I don't know, but I'm 999 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 7: digesting something that I'm not really sure is right or 1000 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 7: good for me and even true. 1001 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's why I encourage everybody, because I believe 1002 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,760 Speaker 5: that the ultimate antiseptic to these lies. 1003 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 1: It's not just. 1004 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 5: Better information because we need better information, it's relationships, right, 1005 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 5: because if I have a if I have a trusted 1006 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 5: relationship with you and you're spouting this, I could be like, yo, 1007 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 5: all right, and be let me actually share with you 1008 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 5: what's up, and we could have a conversation because we 1009 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 5: trust each other. And you know, when we were in Philly, 1010 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 5: we had an amazing closed door conversation with working class 1011 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 5: black men and we were having real. 1012 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 7: Barbershop in a barbershop and just sat you know, my 1013 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 7: husband was really a part of that conversation and all 1014 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 7: these men sat and talked. I was really observing because 1015 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 7: you know, as a woman, I didn't want to be 1016 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 7: in that conversation because I don't know what black men. 1017 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 3: Struggles or what they're dealing with. 1018 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 7: But that was such a great thing that you know, 1019 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 7: you guys and working families organize because people do need 1020 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 7: to just sit and talk to each other. 1021 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 8: As a woman, what did you observe in that conversation 1022 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 8: that like a Kamala Harris and like, you know, her 1023 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 8: team is focusing on right now. 1024 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 7: Like you know, I think a lot of black men 1025 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 7: felt like, you know, don't just pick me up and 1026 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 7: use me now. Some people did feel, you know, even 1027 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 7: with Kamala Harris. You know, at the end of the day, 1028 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 7: some people are feeling like, oh, now y'all in both parties, 1029 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 7: now y'all want to focus on black men or now 1030 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 7: there's conversations about what. 1031 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 3: So there was a real you know, some people are frustrated. 1032 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 7: Some people are feeling you know, discouragions. Some people are 1033 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 7: like no, you know, they were educators and they were 1034 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 7: all talking and my husband talked about you know, the 1035 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 7: influence of the culture, and they talked about Kuavo and 1036 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 7: different people that are being utilized. But black men were 1037 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 7: feeling like, are we going to still matter when the 1038 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 7: election is over? So how do we organize ourselves? And 1039 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 7: I think they were talking amongst themselves about what can 1040 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 7: we do to make sure we're not just used as 1041 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 7: a tool. 1042 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 5: That's right, that's right because for far too long, when 1043 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 5: it comes time to vote the parties, they come to us. 1044 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 5: They come to us for somebody, They come to our 1045 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 5: culture for everything. They come to our culture to make money, 1046 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 5: to start brands, and to get and to get people 1047 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 5: into these polls, and the day after it's often crickets 1048 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 5: when it comes to our agenda, which is why we 1049 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 5: build organizations like the Working Families Party so we can 1050 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 5: hold them all accountable. Right, And so to me, I 1051 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 5: thought it was historic, and so props to VP Harris 1052 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 5: for having a platform specifically for black men. 1053 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: She didn't just create that after Barack Obama made those comics. 1054 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: We no, no, no, she's been doing that. I know 1055 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: that she's been working on it, right. 1056 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 7: But there's a narrative that it feels like it's just. 1057 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 3: And but that's not true. 1058 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: And that agenda to me is the floor. 1059 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 5: You know, props to black men bill, props to fill 1060 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 5: Agnear Black Men bill, and the nine bars. Right, there 1061 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 5: are all types of platforms for black men, right. So 1062 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 5: I'm happy that that that that happen. I think is 1063 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 5: historic to have a major candidate actually addressed our issues. 1064 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: That shows we have power, right. 1065 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 5: And also I want to dispel this misinformation that black 1066 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 5: men don't vote, or black men don't vote for or 1067 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 5: vote for black women, or somehow we could lose. The 1068 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 5: black men are engaged, right, Black men are very much engaged. 1069 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 5: There's one population of people who always vote on freedom 1070 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 5: more than anybody else. That's Black women, only rivaled by 1071 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 5: black men, right, And so we just need to dispel 1072 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,439 Speaker 5: that all of this gender war stuff. Any information that's 1073 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 5: about dividing us in our community is information that is 1074 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 5: set upon by our enemies because they're afraid if we 1075 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 5: as black people come together. And then the other thing 1076 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 5: that they're afraid of is when working class Black people, 1077 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 5: Latino people, and working class white people and Native people 1078 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 5: and Asian people we all come together. That's the thing 1079 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 5: that they are definitely afraid of. 1080 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 7: Yes, I mean, and that's exactly all. 1081 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 3: The leaders and even in the culture. 1082 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 7: If you can bring people together through music, through through 1083 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 7: the arts, or through you know what you're speaking, or 1084 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 7: your activism, and literally that transcends color lines, and then 1085 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 7: before you know it, you have so much power that 1086 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 7: they can't control you. Because essentially power is freedom, that's right, 1087 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 7: and without freedom, you know, that's where we all are 1088 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 7: fighting for. And that's why voting now matters, because we're 1089 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 7: fighting not just for power, we're fighting for freedom and 1090 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 7: that's what's important to us. 1091 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: That's right. How do you support your work? Mary? Okay? 1092 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,760 Speaker 5: Well, there's so many ways and people can get involved 1093 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 5: right now. I know this show is for a lot 1094 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 5: of people's entertainment and education, but I'm an organizer, so 1095 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 5: I'm always going to have a call to action, and 1096 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 5: so don't see this simply as education as entertainment. See 1097 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 5: this as your call to action if you want to 1098 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 5: get in this work between now on election day, because 1099 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 5: we're still talking to voters, and we still need to 1100 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,720 Speaker 5: talk to voters. It's true when you look at the polls, 1101 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 5: it's going to be close. Right, you can matter, and 1102 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 5: so I encourage everybody to text the word power pun 1103 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,879 Speaker 5: intended the three zero four zero three power to three 1104 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 5: zero four zero three. You could Workingfamilies dot org. You 1105 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 5: can see our list of endorsed candidates. And by the way, 1106 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 5: we're on these streets every single day, right, so we've 1107 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 5: endorsed close to a thousand candidates. We do that every 1108 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,240 Speaker 5: single year. And so if you're interested, there are organizations 1109 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,720 Speaker 5: for you, and my role is to get you organized. 1110 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 5: I would love for you to join the Working Families Party. 1111 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 5: If we're for whatever. 1112 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 7: Reason, you want to volunteer, go to the site. 1113 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you could volunteer, you could get on board, and 1114 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 5: if everything or anything I've said aligns with you, then congratulations, 1115 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 5: you already are Working Families Party member. You might as 1116 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 5: well make it official. Come on board and get this 1117 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 5: work because we're going to be on the streets in 1118 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 5: every major swing swing state. We're also for folks that 1119 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 5: might not know this. In California and in New York, 1120 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 5: there are swing districts, right, and so there are congressional districts. 1121 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 5: This is an opportunity to be able to make a 1122 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 5: difference there. And then if you vote in Connecticut and 1123 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 5: New York, we have a ballot line and in New 1124 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 5: York you could vote Rod d on the Working Families 1125 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 5: Party line. You could vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, 1126 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 5: not on the Democratic Party line, but on road D 1127 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 5: the Working Families party line. Why that's important is that 1128 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 5: you could say yes, absolutely, I saw the hate rally 1129 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 5: at Madison Square Garden. I understand the assignment. I don't 1130 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 5: want to vote that man in I'm going to vote 1131 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 5: for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, but I care about 1132 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 5: the fact that we need to focus our resources on 1133 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 5: education and healthcare and not on wars abroad. Right, then 1134 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 5: you can vote on the Working Families Party line, which 1135 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 5: says this is my candidate choice, but this is also 1136 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 5: the agenda I vote on, and in those states you 1137 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:41,919 Speaker 5: could do. 1138 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 7: That policies that you believe in and making sure that 1139 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 7: we take care of us at home and not just abroad. 1140 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: That's right. 1141 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 7: We need people to support us here in America in 1142 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 7: these cities. 1143 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 3: So sure, that's also why we do what we do. 1144 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, And we can't put at the center these politicians 1145 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 5: and their biographies, and there's which is like all good. 1146 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 5: We have to put at the center our families, our children, 1147 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 5: our communities and use that in order to determine what 1148 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 5: chess move we make. I like to say that elections 1149 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 5: and voting is not a love letter, right, So you 1150 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 5: don't have the life folks. You don't have to love folks, 1151 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 5: you don't have to trust folks in order to vote 1152 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 5: your interest and in order to make that chess move. 1153 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 5: So if you want to make that chess move with us, 1154 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 5: I invite you to join Working Families, not Lewis. 1155 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you so much for joining us. 1156 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 3: We appreciate it much. 1157 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up 1158 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: in the morning. The Breakfast Club