WEBVTT - Queen Latifah Is On a Mission!

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple Podcasts. Queen Latifa has been my home girl

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<v Speaker 1>for so many years. Now she's opening up about a

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<v Speaker 1>deeply personal struggle. I was just shocked. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>la La. I am on a mission to change the

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<v Speaker 1>shame attached to wait, the stigma attached to it. Was

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<v Speaker 1>there ever a time where you felt like your size

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<v Speaker 1>were scrutinized publicly? At eighteen, I looked in the mirror

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I have to make a decision. Either

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<v Speaker 1>I'm either gonna hate myself or I'm gonna love myself

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<v Speaker 1>as a very dark place, dark dark place. Queen Latifa

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<v Speaker 1>has been my home girl for so many the years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love her to death. I met Lie long

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<v Speaker 1>before she was the Queen of Rap and Oscar nominated

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<v Speaker 1>actress and an Emmy winning producer. We were just teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw her perform at a club in Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>where I grew up. Since then, our bond grew into

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful friendship. Break Ja. We've worked together many times,

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<v Speaker 1>including co starring and set it off The Girl's Trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always admired Live for being a trailblazing icon, pushing

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries and reshaping the conversation around women and beauty. She's

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<v Speaker 1>never let Hollywood's image of the perfect body stop her

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<v Speaker 1>from becoming one of the greatest entertainers of our generation.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course she always makes me laugh. Come on

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<v Speaker 1>out here, laugh? Is that my name being called? I

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<v Speaker 1>just heard my name being called a JP. So you

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<v Speaker 1>on a mission? I am on a mission right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Um two? Change the stigma associated with obesity. Y, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take these numbers, two and five Americans obese, four and

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<v Speaker 1>five Black women right, obese? Right? But we just look

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<v Speaker 1>at ourselves different because some things, you know, their cultural issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Black women we've learned to love through all this weight

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<v Speaker 1>and all this. So I'm involved with a campaign called

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<v Speaker 1>this Bigger than Me. It's about the shame attached to weight,

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<v Speaker 1>pase being more attached to it. What people talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>how they talk about you, the little words people drop. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if people understood it more then it could

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<v Speaker 1>change the conversation. Right why now for you? What happened was.

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<v Speaker 1>I hooked up with a trainer, Jeanette, and she broke

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<v Speaker 1>down this whole. You know, well, if you know Jeanette,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know Janette is not about the plague now,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has degrees and she's scientific and mathematic. She

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<v Speaker 1>was showing me different body types and she's like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what your b A mayas, this is what your

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<v Speaker 1>weight is, and you fall into this category of obesity.

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<v Speaker 1>I was mad at that off. It's just thick, I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and over where you should be, you know, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like obese, right, So I was like, not right because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see myself that way. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the problem, and that's why I'm here because

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<v Speaker 1>that word brings a connotation with it, okay, and the

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<v Speaker 1>connotation is the problem. Obesity and overweight our medical terms

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<v Speaker 1>used to classify how much body fat a person has.

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<v Speaker 1>Body mass index, or b m I, is the standard

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<v Speaker 1>for calculating body fat based on height and weight. The

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<v Speaker 1>National Institutes of Health breaks down b m I into

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<v Speaker 1>four categories underweight, healthy weight, overweight, and obese. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>just how it's looked at, you know, the stigma. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not not enough understanding. I think people find overweight people offensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people just have a negative, visceral reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>people that are overweight. That's part of what lies talking about, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's how people are treated, how people feel about you,

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<v Speaker 1>how people look at and I think at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, we put far too much attention on

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<v Speaker 1>the exterior aspect of a person, especially when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the upsetting research. According to experts, weight

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<v Speaker 1>prejudice is the last remaining social acceptable bias. Numerous studies

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<v Speaker 1>have found children as young as three believe harmful stereotypes

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<v Speaker 1>and biases towards overweight people, including that they are lazy,

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<v Speaker 1>weak willed, unsuccessful, and unintelligent. Kind of reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>how people think about black people. A recent news story

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<v Speaker 1>revealed some shocking statistics about weight discrimination at work. For

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<v Speaker 1>every six pounds a woman gains her hourly paid drops,

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<v Speaker 1>two people who are overweight are highed less, promoted less,

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<v Speaker 1>and paid less. But see that, I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing allowed. I mean, some people doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of body types naturally, are just just bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I was just shocked. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>obese I didn't connect with this obese word as applied

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I just thought I needed to stop eating

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<v Speaker 1>something and getting the gym. But it did wake me

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<v Speaker 1>up in terms of it being not just of physical thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This can be a genetic thing, a hormonal thing, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different kind of management. Possibly absolutely well, once

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<v Speaker 1>you're aware of that, then you can maybe do something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Put it like this, if you looked at

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<v Speaker 1>obesity as a disease, which it is, you think you

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<v Speaker 1>would crack all of these jokes that people do the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with addiction exactly. You recognize addiction as a

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<v Speaker 1>disease because it is, then your attitude is different about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you're saying about obesity. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>change our thought processes around it. Yeah. For me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about a weight thing. It's really about health at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day. But I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who are actually quite thin and are not healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>But that goes along with Also when you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>black women and obesity, when I think about what foods

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<v Speaker 1>we have access to that we're in the price of groceries,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, access to healthy foods, it's ridiculous. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no reason why we should be eating what we've

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<v Speaker 1>had to eat, right and so, and that's historically, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's historic, absolutely exactly. This is why it's such an

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<v Speaker 1>opportune time to really get into the subject because at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you want people to feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about who they are. But if it's always coming

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<v Speaker 1>through a lens of someone else, that's not healthy. Was

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<v Speaker 1>there ever a time where you felt like your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>were scrutinized publicly? I've been publicly scrutinized, I think my

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<v Speaker 1>whole career. Yeah, you know what I mean. I just

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<v Speaker 1>came out the door looking different. It's like, who is

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<v Speaker 1>this girl with this African clothes on and those shoes

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<v Speaker 1>on her? I thought it was hot, thank god, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they've been trying to figure me out, like from jump,

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<v Speaker 1>like where is she? Where is she going with this?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever feel any kind of scrutiny during Living Single?

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the major ones. It happened a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. We helped create Living Single. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at that picture, you see four different women,

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<v Speaker 1>four different shades, four different types, and we look like

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<v Speaker 1>four women who would live in Brooklyn, right, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>who we were supposed to be representing. And we loved

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<v Speaker 1>being able to do that because we got brands that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody was rocking. We had all kind of guests on

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<v Speaker 1>our show that have never been on TV before, rappers

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<v Speaker 1>and actors and just cool people. But the word came

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<v Speaker 1>down that we needed to lose weight, right those was delivered.

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<v Speaker 1>The word the world came down. No one, particularly the

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<v Speaker 1>words slow down. That's the word coming down from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shot camp. My part Oh and I Do Yes wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>having it. He didn't make me aware of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know he obviously it was like, she's not doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>not for you, not for anybody. Goodbye, you know pretty much,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? But I thought also about

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<v Speaker 1>my cast mates, like how do they feel about themselves?

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<v Speaker 1>And then to have to hear this, We're on the

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<v Speaker 1>number one show among black and Latino households in America

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<v Speaker 1>and you're telling us we need to lose weight. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're the one with the problem, because maybe you're the

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<v Speaker 1>one that has the issue because the show is a

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<v Speaker 1>success and you're telling us we need to lose weight.

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<v Speaker 1>But that happened again too, You know that the word

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<v Speaker 1>came down again and it was like, come on, enough

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<v Speaker 1>of them. You're trying to fit into what somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>is telling you about who you need to be. We're

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<v Speaker 1>also taught these ideas of beauty. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you're supposed to look like. But when you have

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<v Speaker 1>these pictures painted for you and it is implanted over generations,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. That's what's been the beauty about. Even

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<v Speaker 1>since the beginning of your career, You've been always speaking

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<v Speaker 1>out about the power of that's true. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, when your mom is the ideal beauty for

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<v Speaker 1>us as black people, she looked like my little mini

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<v Speaker 1>me when we stand next to each other. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to find clothes that look right

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<v Speaker 1>on me on my side in this world when designers

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<v Speaker 1>are not creating those fashion brands that have these sizes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like if I was a side twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm I got styled, I still want to rock

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<v Speaker 1>with the size too is wearing, but the designers are like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna stop right here, right Okay, have you checked

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<v Speaker 1>the stats of the size of the people in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>You might want to make some clothes in this side.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the problem don't you get it. No, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get it. You don't want us to look

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<v Speaker 1>like this. You don't want us. I think it gets

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<v Speaker 1>back to what I'm like. You don't want us to

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<v Speaker 1>live this fullness. Like I knew when I was wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to play basketball, I had to run down the court

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<v Speaker 1>like this because my breath would be bouncing because if

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<v Speaker 1>the brids weren't very you know, supportive at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but if I wanted to play basketball, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna have to do. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I the brids have changed, they're much better. But

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<v Speaker 1>those look, those things affect you. And telling someone, oh

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<v Speaker 1>you too big to play that, you'll never play that sport,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can't handle that, you can't be on that squad,

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<v Speaker 1>it crushes people. It crushes your spirit right there. Lizzo

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<v Speaker 1>has taken really amazing strides in in that direction, putting

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of bigger bodied individuals. So much for keeping

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<v Speaker 1>me happy, for keeping me alive. Thank you. I followed

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<v Speaker 1>her when she was just playing the flute and singing

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<v Speaker 1>songs for years, you know, before she blew way up.

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<v Speaker 1>She has created a language around this that is different

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<v Speaker 1>from any language I've heard on the surrounding body type

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<v Speaker 1>and Frihanna to Briana with her fancy line and savage

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<v Speaker 1>with the models that she has on the runway, like

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<v Speaker 1>she goes all in, all sizes, all colors, all different backgrounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and spend for you. And that's what you do. You

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<v Speaker 1>were inclusive, and then everyone else, you know, winds up

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<v Speaker 1>looking like, oh, how do we how do we make that?

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<v Speaker 1>You were looking for it and you didn't try. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the bravery to just look right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you and see that there's a big place missing

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<v Speaker 1>in this market. As your friend, it feels so good

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<v Speaker 1>to just see you. I can tell how passionate you

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<v Speaker 1>are about this right. Well, I figured that if I

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<v Speaker 1>came on Red Table Talk, I could get you for

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<v Speaker 1>at least three more episodes, which is like having days

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<v Speaker 1>off at work because you have some more fun, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Maybe get you to come steal

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<v Speaker 1>a few more pagings you know about That's what did happened? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>come back, never bring back. You got flow back in

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<v Speaker 1>the building and the family queens and the house. So

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<v Speaker 1>we invited us special group of fans to join us

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<v Speaker 1>for this important conversation. Yes, we got some face. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>where's tomorrow? Hey? Ti? To mar is known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Curvy Darling. Millions follow her on her various lifestyle platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm so excited to be here. I

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<v Speaker 1>started my platform almost ten years ago to change the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative that I've been forced in my entire life about

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<v Speaker 1>what that lives look like, what that people live like.

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<v Speaker 1>So I share my life. I share my experiences, I

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<v Speaker 1>share my travel, my fitness, what I'm cooking, falling in love,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's my life where I'm the main character and

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<v Speaker 1>not my fat, not my body character. I gotta give

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<v Speaker 1>one that. It's amazing when you can change that mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>I did have a question for Queen La Tipa. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there. I didn't do it. You're such a

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<v Speaker 1>confident person. I am too, but I can't help that

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<v Speaker 1>negative talk that creeps in from time to time. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do you stop that self sabotage? Yes? So I

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<v Speaker 1>have definitely had that problem since I was a very

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<v Speaker 1>young person, and it would be these flashes that would

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<v Speaker 1>just come across me, a flash of pure self hate,

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<v Speaker 1>self loathing, uncontrollable, like who just hate me? Just what

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<v Speaker 1>is that? And I would have to really stop in

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<v Speaker 1>my tracks and take a minute to try to turn

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<v Speaker 1>my mind around. At eighteen, I looked in the mirror

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I have to make a decision. Either

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<v Speaker 1>I'm either gonna hate myself or I'm gonna love myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm talking to myself in the mirror as I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna hate yourself? Are you gonna love me? Something?

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<v Speaker 1>And I decided to love myself. And it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>love came over, but the love was already there. So

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<v Speaker 1>it started to rise up more than the self hate

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<v Speaker 1>that would pop in because that's a very dark place,

0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.600
<v Speaker 1>dark dark place. And there's a few people I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>off the ledge who were ready to call it. Every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while, I'll get hit up on online

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, don't do it, just wait, just get

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<v Speaker 1>through tonight. Just ignore them for a minute. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be okay. We need you, I need you, I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to be all right. Just get through tonight. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about fourteen year old kids, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'll get hit up like a little while later,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm good, I'm doing okay. I made it through

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<v Speaker 1>that because if you give it a little time, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like God lets something in to put light in

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<v Speaker 1>that space of darkness. But if you at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>if you stop too short, then you didn't. We won't

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<v Speaker 1>give it the chance that it needs for real. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, and just keep those positive thoughts about

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in your head. When that self sabotager comes up,

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<v Speaker 1>you go, I love myself And that's a day, yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Blesses that part right there. Way would be brave enough

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<v Speaker 1>to live out there for ten years. Yes, I've been like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not your business. Yeah, yeah right. Remy Vader is

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<v Speaker 1>a content creator and curve model with millions of followers. Hey, Remy,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you want to say today? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to be here. You're all amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>got let go for my job during the pandemic, and

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<v Speaker 1>around that time, I gained probably like sixty pounds and

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<v Speaker 1>I was struggling with that. And one day when I

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<v Speaker 1>was going shopping and soho I live in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to about fifteen stores and not one of

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<v Speaker 1>those stores had above a size ten or twelve. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like an eighteen. So I started just being honest

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok about why are we only seeing on social

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<v Speaker 1>media the good? No one showing the bad? What about

0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like the clothes that don't fit you? Or what about

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<v Speaker 1>when you border clothes online and you're supposed to look

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<v Speaker 1>like what the model looks like. No one looks like

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<v Speaker 1>what the model looks like. So I started putting a

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<v Speaker 1>little humor on it to make myself feel better, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did these things that I now do called realistic holes,

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<v Speaker 1>where I kind of call out the brands and I

0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:21.920
<v Speaker 1>showed the good and I showed the bad and I

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<v Speaker 1>tell them to do better. Okay, I look like mud.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell is that? Please revolved, Please just make

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<v Speaker 1>some larger clothing back again with a realistic misguided hall?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell is that something's wrong with I think we do

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<v Speaker 1>something crazy? Like around what did I tell I'm done?

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.320
<v Speaker 1>These brands don't even know what they're doing, Like let's

0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.960
<v Speaker 1>try and laugh about it. But like, it's not our faults.

0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful. I have people coming up to me

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets every day, like I never left my

0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.359
<v Speaker 1>apartment until I saw your videos, like thank you, and

0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. But every day I got tens of thousands

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.359
<v Speaker 1>of you fat, well this this, I'm changing these brands

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<v Speaker 1>like they're listening. But like then you get that and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like why am I getting so upset? And that's tough,

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and I've definitely had to ignore a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I've grown thicker skin. I also don't even read it

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<v Speaker 1>ye bye bye bye, Like, yeah, it's tough because it hurts. Yeah,

0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It hurts with somebody says something,

0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, snide to you. You know, but you found

0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:51.240
<v Speaker 1>success being yourself, figuring it out for you, not knowing,

0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.840
<v Speaker 1>just like a young Queen Lativa didn't know that so

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<v Speaker 1>many women out there wanted to have someone that look

0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like me represent them. To add to at Law and

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:05.920
<v Speaker 1>for YouTube Remy, it's not easy to be a trailblazer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want you to know too that any kind

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>of negativity that's coming your way is not about you.

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>That is a projection of how that person feels about themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's hard, but that is fat and

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>that is true. So you keep doing you, You keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing you so beautiful. We're doing a good thing, you

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<v Speaker 1>really are. And I hope to run into you in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City walking Thank you, Remy Michelle, You're up next,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Michelle, Hi ladies, Hello Queen. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know I was born in a eight so

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I've knowing you, my man so much. So. I'm a

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.920
<v Speaker 1>female rapper. Put blow wind. Now we say Heddlow with

0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.640
<v Speaker 1>trade magic and they want to payg on me. I'm

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.159
<v Speaker 1>having issues with thinking I'm supposed to look like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else just to get my music heard. I thought that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I needed to go and get a B

0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>B L or something. A few years ago I got

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:09.240
<v Speaker 1>breast implants, and like, every time I feel insecure, I

0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.919
<v Speaker 1>can't just run out and get surgery. I can end

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 1>up making myself sick. My question to you, Queen is

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<v Speaker 1>how did you have the courage to be yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>not worry about what everybody else looked like around you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's a great question, great question, heavy question, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. My father told me very early if I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do things, I have to believe in myself,

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes I would have to stand alone. That you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to have the courage to be

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the only one that's right, because if you don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>in you, you're not gonna get everybody else to bite.

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:53.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's only one single you. You were created

0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 1>uniquely to do what you are supposed to do in

0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the world of hip hop. I mean, I can't be

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<v Speaker 1>a better Nikki than Nikki. I can't be a better

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Kim than Kim, or Missy than Missy. Light is already light,

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 1>so I can't be light. I can't be a better

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Salt and Pepper than them. I just can't. They are

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.400
<v Speaker 1>who they are supposed to be, and they're the best

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.679
<v Speaker 1>at who they are. But I can be the best Latifa.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, So you have to decide for yourself what

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you are willing to do or not do for this business.

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I watched this one over here develop over years. She

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 1>took her time. This wasn't an overnight thing. So what

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you may see is an overnight sensation is not always

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>an overnight success. It takes years to develop and find

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<v Speaker 1>you're lane and find your vibe and find your voice

0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 1>and really figure out, like what do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say and who am I exactly? I'm still figuring and

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that's and that's okay because you get to do that.

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But you can't remove a BBL. I'm not saying you

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>should have shouldn't. It's your body. I can't tell you

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.359
<v Speaker 1>what to do with it. I could tell was get

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.719
<v Speaker 1>your bars up, but got to get your bars up

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:05.960
<v Speaker 1>if you want to rack, make sure that's right. But

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>your research and you know that might be your passive

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>fat and you're stuck with it. So they really put

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>some serious thought into it. And I think you're beautiful

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 1>as you are. You know exactly and it will cut

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 1>through there it is. Thank you so much, Queen, I

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate that. So Shannon loves her body but has

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<v Speaker 1>a concern. Hey Shannon, how are you? I am well,

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Hello ladies. Ever since I was a young girl, my

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 1>mother would always say, you're not fat, you're fluffy. So

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<v Speaker 1>my question is, if I were to lose this weight,

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<v Speaker 1>would I lose my identity? Will I still see myself

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<v Speaker 1>as beautiful? And will I love all of the curves

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that I see when I look in the mirror. I

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>understand that fair. Because there was one time I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Louisiana shooting a movie. I don't know if I

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:05.200
<v Speaker 1>told you all this story, and I was just walking

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>down the street and this girl saw me and she

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was like Queen Latifa. She was a full body woman,

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>young girl. She was like excited to see me queer

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>ra tiva, Oh skinny. I was like, I felt disrespected,

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Like who you're calling skinny? You know what I mean.

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>But it was more like I felt like I let

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<v Speaker 1>her down because I wasn't at a larger weight, maybe

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>than in the past. I think you are who you

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 1>are regardless. All you need to do is check up

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.239
<v Speaker 1>on your health. How's your heart, how's your lungs, How

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.880
<v Speaker 1>are you doing that? Check yourself out from the inside.

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like your spirit is in a good place.

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like your mind is in a good place.

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>If you want to lose weight or not lose a

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>penn and that's that's up to you, you know. But

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.880
<v Speaker 1>at least you'll be aware of where you are physically

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and which is the most important part you being around

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Because we got black women dying heart attacks, Black and

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 1>brown people are dealing with a lot of stresses and

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>those things definitely affect our health. I hope that answers

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:17.399
<v Speaker 1>your question. It sure does. Thank you so much, Thank you,

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Pam. You say your weight kept you from

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<v Speaker 1>getting a promotion, Yes, it did. I was discriminated on

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the job because of my plus size. I was in

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a training room which was supposed to last for twelve months.

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>When it came time for my promotion, my supervisor got

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a friend that was very young, very small, and put

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>her in that position. I was laughed at. I was

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>not taking seriously. I was a joke. I was not respected,

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and I knew that I had to get out of there.

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>And I felt really bad because I looked very hard

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>for a job. I wanted a job so bad, but

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 1>when I quit the job, I felt like a failure.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I said. I wasn't gonna cry anyway. All I

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>want to say is this to you, Jada, thank you

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>for hearing us. Thank you so much, he and Queen

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>for hearing us, because it's something that hurts very deeply,

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and I never thought anybody would hear me or listen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to thank you for hearing all

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>of us. Thank you, Pam, and I thank Queen too

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>for coming to the table today because Ms Pam, the

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>way you've educated us right now and understanding the pain

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>around being discriminated because of your weight, your physical appearance,

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and you bringing this subject to the table because I

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't aware of discrimination in regards to wait in that way,

0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know that it was it ran that deep.

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what we love to do at the table is

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to get educated. It's all about trying to bring more

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>compassion and understanding in the world. That's right, it really is. Yeah,

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I just I have to add that set it off

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>as my favorite movie. You in that room that far

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>right there, Thank you, miss pain It's one of my

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>favorites too. Definitely listen, best day of my life. Well,

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, miss Pam, and thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>all of you for joining us today for our queen

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<v Speaker 1>right here. I really appreciate it. Thank you for your testimonies.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you so much because you are one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most gentle, sincere hearts that I know, and just

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>for people that have the ability to be in connection

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to that, it's gonna be so healing. It makes my

0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>heart feel good. You stopped looking at you close my eyes,

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>but you know you have just I love you so

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>much because you're just such a just such a cuddle,

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>your heart so soft and warm, and being in your

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>presence is like a warm embrace. Thank you for having

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>me and anytime continued success here. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yo,

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I just want those teeth the glitter, yo, you can

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>get them any times. I know, I know what, I

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>know what, chick. I need to know what. Chick? Who

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>does it really right? Pop those in on something love

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