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Speaker 1: Reich Jr. And Alex tormonso on the Digital Soapbox Network

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Speaker 1: material witness on an aggregated battery. I was a hang

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Speaker 1: her testimony. What's up, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles episode forty seven. Today. I'm not here with

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Speaker 1: my co host Alex Alonzo. Uh, he had to take

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Speaker 1: a break and go to court today. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: have him talk. I got, I got two guys actually here.

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Speaker 1: I want to introduce you to that I call positive

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Speaker 1: black Man, and this is what I do this show

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Speaker 1: for versts. Is Harry. Harry, you want to introduce yourself

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Speaker 1: to the people. Okay, my name is Harry Jackson. I'm

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Speaker 1: the CEO and founder of Jackson Family Human Services, and

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Speaker 1: U'm here today to talk about our business and how

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Speaker 1: we're working with kids and giving people in our area

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Speaker 1: access to different resources that they would have not gotten

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Speaker 1: unless they win you know, was exposed to it right right,

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Speaker 1: and and when I when I heard his story. First,

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Speaker 1: let me give you a little background on it. The

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Speaker 1: manage is not even thirty five years old yet, his

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Speaker 1: they take care of how many kids? Would you say? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we take care of eight kids, and um, we

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Speaker 1: but they find he's also a firefighter. Uh, but they

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Speaker 1: make time to take care of other people, other people

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Speaker 1: kids were as well as they own at the same time.

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Speaker 1: And it was it was so crazy listening to and

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Speaker 1: you know, to further and to get more kids. Imagine

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Speaker 1: twenty one kids in your house at one time. I

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Speaker 1: But I wanted him on this show so he can

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Speaker 1: so he can elaborate on how he's doing it and

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Speaker 1: why he's doing it. And he just opened his company

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let Harry tell you how how you

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Speaker 1: doing this? Okay? So what we are is we're a

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Speaker 1: U a behavioral supportive services company, and we have a

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Speaker 1: daycare where we take care of kids that UM in

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Speaker 1: some situations had hard time being placed at other day cares. UM.

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Speaker 1: Some of our kids have their from types of behavior

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Speaker 1: and they're misunderstood and we typically UM work with them.

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Speaker 1: We have a board certified analysis, which is equivalent to

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Speaker 1: a psychiatrist will say and UM, we believe that there's

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Speaker 1: no bad kids. We don't turn away any kids. We

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Speaker 1: times people are not trained to deal with behaviors. A

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Speaker 1: I mean according to society being perfect. UM. So that's

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Speaker 1: what we do for the daycare side. UM. As far

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Speaker 1: as UM our behavioral supportive services company, we are, we

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Speaker 1: very very important to our community and in the consumers.

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Speaker 1: We serve to understand that sometimes when people have different

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Speaker 1: And what we would do as a company is we

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Speaker 1: I got a major issue, family issues, and I go

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Speaker 1: We also are partner with behavior Genius, who serves everyone

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Speaker 1: it was that. And then I always had a desire

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00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: to play basketball since I was young and go to college.

428
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: It was crazy, even though I was you know, any institutions,

429
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: I always they dreamed and and kind of visualize myself

430
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: on the court. Well, day dreaming, you actually made your

431
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: dream come true. Yeah. Yeah, So that's what I did.

432
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: As soon as I got out of prison, you know,

433
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: I and I educated. That's that's the most important part.

434
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: I educated myself. I read books, I learned about my history.

435
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: I learned that, you know, we just don't come from slavery,

436
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I learned about my heritage,

437
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a stolen legacy, you know.

438
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: And and and once I pretty much became familiar with myself,

439
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: and I got to know myself, and I got to

440
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: experience the emotions that I that I just you know,

441
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: kind of put to the curve for so long. It

442
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: was then when I was able to grow and and

443
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: and take take my life seriously, you know, and not

444
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: by denouncing anything, you know, it's just but just kind

445
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: of showing you you have to denounce, especially and and

446
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: I think that's where your man who had come from,

447
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: and showing them that you've been a man and responsible

448
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: of yourself. It's to denounce. I don't care how motherfucking

449
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: choose to use it. And I use the word motherfucker loosely. No,

450
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: but I'm being honest, I'm and and And the reason

451
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: why I'm saying that it's because if you're letting these

452
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: cats know, these people know that you're working with the homies,

453
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: if you let them know I'm done, it's pretty much

454
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: denouncing that I'm not just ain't me no more. So

455
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: you have to really give that part up. You can't

456
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: be a halfast crook. No, you can't get a halfast homie,

457
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: you know, So you gotta be done with it. Yeah,

458
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: and you know I'm done with it. It's just the

459
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, I never wanted to be done

460
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: with where I came from there, not necessarily the gang part,

461
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: but tied to the culture because so many of us

462
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: we get rich, we get smart, we get money, we

463
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: get married, and we move away and we forget rather

464
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: mentally or physically, and we don't we can't. It's like

465
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: a disconnect. That money becomes a disconnect, that position becomes

466
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: a disconnect, you know, and that that's what I mean

467
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: by that. Like and like you said, it was an

468
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: eternal force, you know, battling like oh you know that

469
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: that ego in that pride. But yeah, So after I

470
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: got out of prison, you know, like four months later,

471
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: I was enrolled in college City College, San Diego, you know,

472
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: started playing basketball. I got a scholarship, stayed at City

473
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: for two years, a scholar athlete, you know. UM shout

474
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: out to coach Mitch a City College. He took a

475
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 1: chance on me. He didn't you know, and I just

476
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: had raw talent. I know how to set a pick properly,

477
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know. He just throw me and getting there,

478
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: you know the type deal. And um. And then that

479
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: led to a scholarship out to uh A private university

480
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: of private Christian university in Oklahoma. So I did about

481
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: three years out there and obtained my bachelor's in behavioral science,

482
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, came back to San Diego. Um, by the

483
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: grace of God and some some help from my towards

484
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: Adrian ascanise Um you know, Maria senor um no la

485
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: Bride Butler Bride. We you know, they helped me get

486
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: into a master's program called CBB Community Base Block in

487
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: San Diego State, and I took it seriously and I

488
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: earned a you know, a m A and education and

489
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: so um from there I got you know, that took

490
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: me different places, you know, helping helping that colleges are interning,

491
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: to becoming an academic counselor advisor, to eventually teaching my

492
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: own classes. So um, so you're teaching like like actually, yeah,

493
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: actually teaching, Yeah, actually got a actually got a professor

494
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: uh title, associate professor title, you know, going into these

495
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: classes at that point in time in my life, and

496
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: um and and teaching you know, teaching college prep one

497
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: on one, teaching transfer, you know, teaching community college kids

498
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: are student there. So do you go around telling people

499
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: you could be what you want to be and didn't

500
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: let them know where you came from? I mean you

501
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: you're a prime example what we need to be, uh,

502
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: what we need to understand about ourselves. I don't care

503
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: how bad we've been, I don't care what we've done.

504
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: The only person can fix that is God itself. But

505
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: where down here I can make it better? And and

506
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: half of us don't don't think like that because we

507
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: don't know. Half of us don't understand because we have

508
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: no one in our ear to teach us where. Man,

509
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: you could be anything you want to be. You know

510
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So yeah, I know I feel that

511
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: is good. Man. You you went from prison two teaching.

512
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: This is where we need to understand. This is where

513
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: we need to go. And that's a cold asked message

514
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: for anybody. You know, we don't have We as black men,

515
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: do not have any excuses to fail just because we felt.

516
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: We can't blame that motherfuck over there. We can't blame it,

517
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: say its slavery fucked us up. We didn't even live

518
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: the ship. For number one, what we had is, man,

519
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: we got to get better with ourselves and and get

520
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: into our kids and teaching our kids a better way.

521
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: And then guys like you and my I mean you

522
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: and myself that went through it can come and sit

523
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: down at the round table and say, okay, this I

524
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: had enough. This is what I'm doing now. You educated

525
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: yourself by reading books. You know, It's it's crazy that

526
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: only some of us get it. You feel me and

527
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: and man, it's a good thing that that you came today.

528
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even expecting this, y'all. I want to I

529
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: swear to God, I wouldn't expecting this. To get a

530
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: brother that's been on that level and can sit here

531
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: next to me and say, man I did five years,

532
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: did I d in two years? Then down I had enough?

533
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: And then he could sit here and say his education

534
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: took him places, you know what I'm saying. At that age,

535
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: and at that time, after doing prison time, they tell

536
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: you can't you can't get a job after prison, which

537
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: was kind of true trying to be a security guard.

538
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: After you get out of prison, they're gonna give you

539
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: ninety days and they're gonna fire your ass. That's all

540
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: you got is ninety days. So you're gonna have to

541
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: keep doing it or you're gonna go to a warehouse.

542
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: But man, I really, I really really appreciate that, and

543
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: I want everybody to know it's a whole lot of

544
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: us out there that's trying to get that education, that

545
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: didn't give up, that that that got mentors, that that's

546
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: helping other people, you know what I'm saying. So it's

547
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: it's it's like that paid forward ship. Let's do that

548
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I'm trying to do. And I

549
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: know you're doing that. You're talking to kids. I know

550
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: you've been boy, you're so blessed. It's pathetic. And and

551
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: us as black man need to grab a grip, grab

552
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: a hole to what we are, understand who we are

553
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: become in You're not just a man when you turned

554
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty. We're not men because we don't understand

555
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: what it's about, what it what it means to be

556
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: a man. I got a brother over here, he understand

557
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: what it what it means should be a man. And

558
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: here I am fifty five and didn't understand I'm a man.

559
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I went looking at it

560
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: like that. But this is where we gotta get our

561
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: little brothers on. This is where we gotta get our

562
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: little sisters on. We gotta stop applying our little sisters,

563
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: paying them twenty dollars to twerk. We gotta man all

564
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: of this bullshit. We degrade ourselves. Ain't nobody helping us

565
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: do the ship. We're doing it to ourselves. Man, And

566
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you to sit down and just really say

567
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: where you came from. It ain't everybody business, but it's business.

568
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: It ship that everybody should know. You know what I'm saying.

569
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy talked people. It's kind of funny, yeah,

570
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: but you know I really that's the hammer I hit home,

571
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: like you can do anything that you put your mind to.

572
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: And you know you hear it when you're young, right,

573
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: but it's just like so repetitive you start thinking like,

574
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: oh that that's just another slogan like Nike, you just

575
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: do it. But I really believe that. And not only

576
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: do I believe it, but I preached that, you know,

577
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: whatever wherever I'm at, I let the the young, the

578
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: young kids, young students. I let even older people older

579
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: than me um to know that your past don't define you,

580
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: that that's just that's just something that you know you

581
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: went through. And so I don't let none of my

582
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: homeboys are none of my family, are not none of

583
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: my friends. I should say, take that skategoat because so

584
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: many people ask me how do I do it? That's

585
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: amazing and here I am this whole. Don't get me wrong,

586
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: it was hard times. I don't through so many emotions

587
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: trying to get through to where I was at, but

588
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: it was relatively easy. I'll share that with you. It

589
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: was relatively easy. I had a passion, I had a

590
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: real passion, and I was doing what I loved, you

591
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I never went to high school,

592
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: never went to high school, just straight out and I

593
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: was playing basketball, which helped me. I was doing what

594
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: I loved and everything fell in line. And that's so

595
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: and that's that's just my message, you know. So some

596
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: of these classes, I also taught classes of like restorative

597
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: justice class to formally incarcerated students. Right, So they put

598
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: a like at a college called Maracoasta, we kind of

599
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: put a program together to targeting students who have been

600
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: formally incarcerated from eighteen to forty and they're giving them

601
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: the tools to succeed, because education is a cold, cold

602
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: piece of work if you used the right way. Yeah.

603
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: So that that's what I'm on now, and I'm more into, um,

604
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, trying to motivate and speak, motivational speaking, trying

605
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: to make my own lane and that um and that yeah,

606
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: in that lane, trying to make my own lane. And

607
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: so do you go to the to the to the

608
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: back to the neighborhood to see if you can help

609
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: one of the homies. Uh, get out of his situation.

610
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: Let them know that this ain't what you. You don't

611
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: have to do. Yeah, man, I still stay in San Diego.

612
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: I still stay in the city of San Diego. Only

613
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: time I moved away as when I was when I

614
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma. Okay, I'm always around. I didn't talk

615
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: that San Diego City College right in the hardest San Diego.

616
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: You know you're a young cat too. Man, I'm trying

617
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: to these young cats coming in there is alway educated

618
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: and ship. I don't want to ask you how old years,

619
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: but I know you're under thirty thirty five. You know

620
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: your fault. No, no, no, I'm not younger than that. Yeah,

621
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: y'all about the same age. Yeah, okay, well yeah, that's

622
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 1: my cousin. And he told me, you know, he told

623
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: me I was kind of dabbling, dabbling in different things

624
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: and uh, while all my path and he told me,

625
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: if I don't use my purpose, God gonna take me off.

626
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: God gonna take me off this earth. Oh man, that's

627
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: the cold thing. And that's true. That's always stuck with me.

628
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: And you know, and one thing you learned, you can't

629
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: take everybody with you. Everybody ain't gonna get your Uh,

630
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: you can't take care of everybody. That if Man, God,

631
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: God got a message for all of us. And you know,

632
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: you just gotta know when he's using you. You know

633
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You realize he using you. Harry realized

634
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: that he has a purpose and and his passion and

635
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: his love is for kids, not just his own kids,

636
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: his what they all he is. I see how you

637
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: interact with him. Everybody in that house is is his

638
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Speaker 1: is his kid and it ain't too many, which I

639
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Speaker 1: said earlier. We need to get back to that. We

640
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Speaker 1: need to learn how to love and take care of

641
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Speaker 1: each other instead of fighting and killing each other, you

642
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And if we get a bunch

643
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Speaker 1: of a bunch of y'alls, a bunch of young men

644
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Speaker 1: with their head on that, that should I say to

645
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Speaker 1: get out there. If they get in one car and

646
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Speaker 1: just roll to certain places and speak on it, then

647
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: we're good. I think we need to reach uh the

648
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Speaker 1: juvenile hall system. Having them kids is acting for help. Yeah,

649
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But they won't let me

650
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Speaker 1: up in there with my record, They not even they

651
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Speaker 1: won't even I tried. I was in there for a second,

652
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Speaker 1: and then the person that brought me here almost got fired.

653
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Speaker 1: And and and that's the cool thing about it. Right now,

654
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Speaker 1: I've been out of prison since and it's still something

655
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Speaker 1: that this California won't allow me to do. Man, you

656
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They let me go to Australia

657
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Speaker 1: though they slipped up. But but seriously, though, your your

658
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Speaker 1: your your history, your past history shouldn't even matter if

659
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Speaker 1: if you're doing the things you're doing, it's this is

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Speaker 1: me now. It doesn't matter what I did. I paid

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Speaker 1: for that, So society tell you right now today, I

662
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Speaker 1: don't care if you went to prison or not. It

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Speaker 1: ain't your dad is not paid. And they won't let

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Speaker 1: you forget it. And that's the cool thing about our

665
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: system about us about black men. You get a record,

666
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Speaker 1: they ain't letting it go. And that's why I hopped

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Speaker 1: in education because they ain't. They aren't discriminating there. I mean,

668
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Speaker 1: it's you know, it could be fixed. It's got his

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Speaker 1: ups and downs and problems with every other institution. But

670
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Speaker 1: you hopping there, man. They came and from when they

671
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Speaker 1: came Tony, you your your your bachelor's degree. They can

672
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Speaker 1: deny your associates. They can't deny what you've done. They

673
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Speaker 1: can't going to different places, just like you weren't gonna

674
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Speaker 1: trying to go into a facility and then your background,

675
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Speaker 1: your check come, Oh no, he can't get in here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What I did in the past is the past. I

677
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Speaker 1: paid for my I paid my debt. And you know

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Speaker 1: they don't see it that way. And that's why we

679
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Speaker 1: still have problems getting and trying to move forward to

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Speaker 1: the go to the next level, because they still got

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Speaker 1: his handcuffed and half of half of us. It's just

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Speaker 1: on some fucking it don't matter. And I'm speaking about

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Speaker 1: me too, because I was like, man, I'm out of prison,

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Speaker 1: and what's that the shie night? What's that? I gotta

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Speaker 1: get a job. I got a family, I got kids,

686
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Speaker 1: so a certain job. Then they fired you after that

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Speaker 1: ninety days. You know what I'm saying, Uh, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was a security guard with my own pistol. Y'all

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Speaker 1: ain't got to give me no pistol. I'll be out

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Speaker 1: of here en night. But I had my own goddamn pistel.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't stupid. I ain't gonna walking around nobody building

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Speaker 1: all night and around that creepy ship what I want,

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Speaker 1: so just to say that they don't they My my

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Speaker 1: past kept coming up every everywhere and everything that I did,

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Speaker 1: and then it frustrates you. It frustrated me, so it

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Speaker 1: made me give up saying funk that selling dope was easier,

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Speaker 1: you know, on a new drug ship and taking from

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Speaker 1: others get what I wanted was easier. So I don't

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Speaker 1: have to deal with these people. The only person I

700
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Speaker 1: had to deal with is the police. And that's some

701
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Speaker 1: catch me if you can ship and we wind up

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Speaker 1: back where we're at the lady are gonna around and

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Speaker 1: get caught. You know, It's funny, man, I have that mentality.

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Speaker 1: And I was actually trying to change my life when

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Speaker 1: I got out of y like mentally, but it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: And I had that same mentality like well I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do this, and I ended up on the bus to

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Speaker 1: prison with my dad, shockle with my dad. We went

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Speaker 1: to prison with me and my dad went to prison

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Speaker 1: the same on the same bus. That make me think,

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Speaker 1: damn pops in prison with your something. Man. I was

712
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Speaker 1: just so happy to be going to prison, honestly, like

713
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Speaker 1: to have that stripe my dad. Look, I was like, yeah, Pops,

714
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm about to do this. When I hit the yard,

715
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Speaker 1: I'm about to do this. He's looking now that I

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Speaker 1: look back, and he looking at me like what is

717
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Speaker 1: wrong with this boy? You know what I mean? Like,

718
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Speaker 1: but you know it will definitely take you on a

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Speaker 1: couple of trips. I mean, I didn't do no time

720
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Speaker 1: with my pops, but you know, uh, you know, us

721
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Speaker 1: as little boys growing to young men sooner later. Man, man,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a father to look up to, you

723
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that was probably one of

724
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Speaker 1: my problems then. But you know I still don't it

725
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Speaker 1: is we don't have to continue to have our sons

726
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Speaker 1: grow up and be One thing I said when I

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Speaker 1: was game banking now one of my sons, but not

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Speaker 1: ever get called sagging now one of my sons ever

729
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Speaker 1: put a Pierce day ears, I didn't have that. You

730
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Speaker 1: ain't gonna be like me. I did everything that uh

731
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Speaker 1: my mama, husband whatever father didn't do. So that was

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Speaker 1: a reversal to me. I had enough sense to my son,

733
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Speaker 1: is I'm not gonna introduce him to gangs and he

734
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Speaker 1: ain't gonna be out here because that's the worstest thing

735
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Speaker 1: getting that phone call. Your son just got killed around

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Speaker 1: the corner. So that was that was one of the

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Speaker 1: things I said. At least I did do right. Both

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Speaker 1: of my sons went to college. What I'm saying, and

739
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say, I spent a lot of money

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Speaker 1: and they helping him get there, but they got there,

741
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I did contribute to it.

742
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Speaker 1: I did what I can do as a father, you

743
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And and me and my sons

744
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: have a cool relationship right now in today. You know,

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Speaker 1: UH about to get my youngest son a card because

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Speaker 1: he decided to go back and get his degree. So

747
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: so for that, I can get you a card. You

748
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I can help you do what

749
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Speaker 1: you're doing. You don't have to struggle, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. My oldest son, he tastes care of his

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Speaker 1: his daughter. She's twelve years old and he'd been raising

752
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Speaker 1: her since she was day one. The mother walked out

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Speaker 1: to the hospital when they said y'all can go home,

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Speaker 1: and he's been having her every since. So he they

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Speaker 1: they're good boys. My daughter something difference. She Wow, she

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Speaker 1: got her daddy and her mom and her and she

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Speaker 1: can't quit now maybe I need to get hurt. Right

758
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: when when when when? When? When she come home? So

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Speaker 1: but man, I appreciate you all coming in and and

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00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: really just man sitting down and just conversation with me. Um,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, you was a bonus for me today

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00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: because I was gonna talk to Harry and I know

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Speaker 1: Harry don't talk that much and I knew he wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna give me no hour and a half, so he

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Speaker 1: was a bonus from me. But right, man, I appreciate you. Man,

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Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. Man. You know, a long

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Speaker 1: time ago I wouldn't say thank you Jesus, and I

768
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: didn't bless God at all. But today, right now, today,

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Speaker 1: from from seventeen years now, I am not ashamed of God.

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Speaker 1: And man, I thank God for the day. I think

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Speaker 1: all my blessings brother, and I appreciate you all for coming. Harry,

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Speaker 1: get you out there, yeah, let you know where you are.

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Speaker 1: go ahead and shoot me a message and we get

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Speaker 1: the ball rolling. Okay that I'm gonna make a joke.

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Speaker 1: Y'all see this guy. Just hold up me, let me

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Speaker 1: pitch my ship real quick. You did that. But man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody, uh for for for coming out. Harry.

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Speaker 1: I hope you all don't get loads leaving his mother

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Speaker 1: and man gachronos Man, we got a lot more to come.

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