1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor, a prediction of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm any Reason and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. And today we're 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: talking about Pringles. Oh yes, and there's much excite the 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: virtual Savor podcast studio right now. There, there is there. 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we tried out to do like to too 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: many brand related episodes because because I don't know, I 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: feel like that would be weird. Yeah, you know, like 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: we're certainly not not sponsored by any of these people, 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: certainly not gosh, um, certainly they've got standards, but um, 10 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: but they can just be so much fun. Like just 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: the stories and the and and some of the I mean, 12 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, like a carrot is also really cool and fascinating, 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: um in a whole lot of ways. But man, like 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: some of the manufacturing processes that these people come up 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: with is so amazing. And yeah, yeah, and I mean 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: there's just something fun about pop culture touchstones that we 17 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: can all relate to with these brands, or you know, 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: most of us. Sure, Um, so yeah, this one's fun. 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: It's got a lot of science and weird history, very 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: strange products that we're going to talk about. Uh yeah, 21 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: And I've never really been the biggest Pringles fan. I 22 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 1: can't remember last time I had Pringles. It was probably 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: middle school. Huh yeah, well, you know, I'm not a 24 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: big snacker. Sure, sure snack, but they've been on my 25 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: mind ever since. John Oliver he just like at the 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: end of December, he goa did the company into revealing 27 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: the body of the Pringles mascot, Julie Springled by the way. Um. 28 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 1: And this was after he'd already called them out before, 29 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: and a bunch of fans of course answered his call 30 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: and imagined the body and all kinds of ways you 31 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: can fill in the blank there. Yeah, yeah, we're Google 32 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: if you so choose, that's up to you. Yes, there's 33 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: a lot of amazing art I've got to say, yeah, yeah, yeah. 34 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: And when I was a kid, I do remember the 35 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: commercial very well and the slogan very well. And in 36 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: middle school we often used it an immature poor taste 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: joke about serial killers. Once you pop, you just can't 38 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: stand Oh sure, yeah, yeah, yeah we had that joke. Yeah, well, 39 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: that makes me feel better. I'm not alone in my 40 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: terrible middle school poor taste humor. Oh not at all, 41 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: not at all. That's that's pretty much most middle schoolers everywhere, 42 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: going right up through adults. Yeah to our current moment, Yes, yes, uh, 43 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: And I think I've only ever had two flavors, which 44 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: the flavor list is really impressive. I'm just gonna go 45 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: ahead and put that the spoiler alert. Yeah. Yeah, there 46 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: have been a lot of kind of like one off 47 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: flavors over the years, and I didn't even I don't know, 48 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: like I that that that was. There were so many 49 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: interesting things to cover that all of the wacky flavors 50 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: actually fell down on the list further than normally would 51 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: with a product like this, and so um so I 52 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: don't have as an exhaustive of a list as I 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: would like to have, But they've had some wacky ones. Yeah, 54 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: I think we've had. I think we ate a few 55 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: different ones on snack stuff back on back in the day. 56 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Um that that Facebook live thing where Annie filmed uh 57 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: Ben bowling and I eating weird snacks are strange, you 58 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: say from your closet during a pandemic recording audio. Well, 59 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean we were according you to eating snacks in 60 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the middle of the office in the middle of the day. 61 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: It was it wasn't not weird. I'm not arguing that 62 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: it was weird. Um. Uh, yeah, no, I know I've 63 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: I've had I think I've even I feel like I've 64 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: brought pringles to a karaoke event at least I don't know, 65 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: like like in my like grabbing of snacks occasionally, like 66 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: a pringle scan, I'm like, yeah, this sounds good. I 67 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: want to pringle. It's so crunchy. Um. I wouldn't say, like, 68 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: it's not a I don't really buy snacks aside from popcorn. 69 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: I do buy popcorn um to keep in the house. Um. 70 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: But if I'm going to a party back when we 71 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: went to parties, that would be that would be the thing. Yeah, 72 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: that's the snack you bring. I see. I mean it's 73 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: not usually a snack that I would bring, but usually 74 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm that jerk who shows up with like baby carrots 75 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: and like some hummus and I'm like, hey, everyone, I 76 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: brought a vegetable, and like somewhere in the back of 77 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: my head it's just like like Homer being like, you 78 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: don't make friends with salad Lisa. Yeah, well, uh, I've 79 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: been rewatching old Seinfeld episodes lately, so it's just that's 80 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: the topic of conversational bottle, that show of having to 81 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: bring a snack and what are you bring having to 82 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: bring a drink? And why is this a thing? But anyway, okay, 83 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: before we get to our question, yes, just to reiterate, 84 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: not a sponsor, No, no, I just want to talk 85 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: about it. Um. But okay, ask to our question Pringles, 86 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: what are they? Well? Uh, that is a surprisingly controversial 87 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: question legally speaking. Um, but Pringles are a brand of 88 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: potato based snack chips that are just about perfectly uniform 89 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: in thickness, size, and shape, and we're engineered to stay crispy, unbroken, 90 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: stacked in especially designed sealed can during transit from the 91 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: factory to your face. That sounds like when you put 92 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: it that way, it sounds so like sci fi. I did. 93 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: I did just feel a little bit like one of 94 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: those announcers and one of those like fifties infomercials. Yeah yeah, 95 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: um yeah okay. So like traditional potato chips UM called 96 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: potato crisps throughout the rest of the English speaking world, 97 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: um are made by taking thin slices of potato and 98 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: deep frying them, and you know, like the results are delicious. Sure, 99 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: but even the most carefully cut and fried chips from 100 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: even the most carefully grown potatoes are going to vary 101 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: in size and shape and like starch content and oil 102 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: content a little bit. UM. They're also hard but fragile. UM. 103 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: Sealing them in a bag with a puff of air 104 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: for cushion helps protect them from outside dangers, but not 105 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: from each other dangerous inside. It is it is but 106 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: springles our science chips UM. They're made not just from potatoes, 107 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: but from a batter or a dough of dehydrated potato 108 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: flakes plus cooked rice, wheat, corn, and some flavorings and 109 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: other stuff. Um. And they are made by UM pressing 110 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: and rolling that dough out into this long flat sheet 111 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: that the individual chips are cut cleanly out of with 112 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: a machine and huge batches. UM machine pulls away the 113 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: excess from the sheet in one big piece for reprocessing. 114 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: The individual chips are then conveyed into a press mold 115 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: that gives them their shape, and then there flash fried 116 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: on that mold, dried, sprayed with flavoring powder, and flipped 117 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: onto a growing stack. UM. And then each stack is 118 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: canned and sealed when it's the right height of chips. Yeah, 119 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: and this you can find videos of this. It's amazing. 120 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: It's oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, how it's made did 121 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: an episode? Um, and it's I highly recommend looking it up. 122 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: It's really fun. Um. I guess for specific definition of 123 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: the word fun, I think it's kind of mesmerizing. I 124 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: was just looking at it like there is there is 125 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: something like a little bit like like sort of like 126 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: fugue inducing to watching machinery like that work. It is 127 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: very peaceful. Um uh and um that that shape that 128 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: they get pressed into is really important. Um. It's it's 129 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: called a hyperbolic paraboloid um often called a saddle because 130 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. Uh. And if you look 131 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: at it, you'll you'll notice it has these two curves um. 132 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: Long ways it curves up, and across the middle it 133 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: curves down. And this creates a balance of forces that 134 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: the material along the long on cave curve is stretched 135 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: intention and the material along the short convex curve is 136 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: squished or squeezed in compression. So even though these chips 137 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: are very thin and the material itself is fragile, they're 138 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: also very stiff due to that balance. UM like, it 139 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: resists fault lines which lead to cracks, which lead to 140 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: broken chips. And and this shape is is great at 141 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: resisting breakage even under compression. UM, which helps like the 142 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: chips at the bottom of the can resist buckling under 143 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: the weight of the ones above them. UM. And it 144 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: means that when you do break the chip by biting 145 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: into it, you're gonna get a really satisfying noise. Yes, yes, 146 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: good crunch, good crunch. Um. And I have not used 147 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: in this description the Mattheist words that I could possibly use, 148 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: because honestly, I find calculus completely confounding. Um. There is 149 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good article about it on interesting engineering dot com, 150 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: though by one UM Kathleen Villalla's Villas. I'm not sure. 151 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how to say that name. UM. And 152 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: even outside of the snack industry, the hyperbolic paraploid is 153 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: quite a useful shape. UM. It's a It's used in 154 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: architecture to give us some really impressive buildings. UM. If 155 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: you've ever seen Canada's Saddle Dome, or England's Velodrome or 156 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Sweden's Scandinavium, you have seen the hyperbolic craboloid in action. 157 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: I actually wonder whether the designers of the Pringles shape 158 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: were influenced by the Scandinavium arena, because it was designed 159 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: in the late forties, is like an architectural competition and 160 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: was the subject of a whole bunch of news due 161 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: to all of these financing issues. Anyway, mm hmm interesting, 162 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: very possible. I mean I love that. A lot of 163 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: times when we do these episodes like this, it's it's 164 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: scientists that come in and make the Pringle's chip. Yea 165 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: fascinating love it um and uh and yeah yeah, oh gosh, 166 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: it's a really really cool, like like architectural rabbit hole 167 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: if you want to fall down one um. Because some 168 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: similar principles are are also applied in the wider category 169 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: of roof types called shell roofs UM, which are these 170 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of swooping curved roofs encompassing cavernous interiors like the 171 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: Sydney Opera House or the Great Court at the Bridge 172 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: Museum or even the dome of the Pantheon. So yeah, yeah, 173 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: and that can that the chips come in helps to um. Traditionally, 174 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: this is a very complex piece of of disposable container 175 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: container hood. Um Uh. It's a it's a cardboard tube 176 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: stabilized by a hard metal base, then lined on the 177 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: inside with foil to prevent moisture. From getting in keeping 178 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: the chips crispy and topped with a metal tear off 179 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: lid inside of a stabilizing, resealable plastic cat up that 180 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: makes a fun pop when you take it off, hence 181 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: that commercial slogan UM. And further, when the chips are 182 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: put in, UM, the air is sucked out to prevent deterioration. 183 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, I give you that, give you that pop. 184 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Those cans come in standard, Mini, and Mega. 185 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: There's little plastic snack stacks too, and the flavors UM. Okay, 186 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: so these these differ from area to area. UM. Right 187 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: now here in the US, the lineup across a couple 188 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: of different types of chips. You've got UM, You've got 189 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: original barbecue, Ranch, sour cream and onion, jalapeno, roasted halapeno, 190 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: tangy barbecue, apple, would smoked cheddar cheddar cheese, scorching Chilian lime, 191 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: scorching barbecue and scorch and cheddar, dill, pickle, Sultan vinegar, parmesan, 192 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: roasted garlic, rotisserie chicken, honeymustard, Memphis barbecue, Buffalo Ranch, and 193 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: my personal favorite in terms of saying names into a microphone, 194 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: Wendy's Bacon Eader, The Wendy's Bacon Eader, springle yep innovation 195 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: never cease. Oh wow, I laughed out loud so much 196 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: that I startled my cat when I read that on 197 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: the internet. Um, it's great. There's like a big like 198 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Wendy's sign on the can. It's really like a photograph 199 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: of one. It's pretty. It's pretty epic. Yeah, I mean 200 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: the bacon eader is epic. It wouldn't be called the 201 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: bacon ead or if it were not exactly truth and advertising. Um, yeah, 202 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: there there are. There are lots of discontinued flavors though, 203 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: um or maybe these aren't discontinued. I'm not entirely sure. 204 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: I didn't personally fact check every so the one of these, Um, 205 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: there's a there's definitely a white chocolate one at some point. 206 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: All of these different types of barbecue I found, like 207 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: a smokey barbecue, like a sweet and tangy barbecue. I'm 208 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: not sure how many iterations of barbecue they've been through. Um, 209 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: there was a one for cheesy cheese. What I don't 210 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: understand what it means cheese cheese. Um, salt and seaweed, um, 211 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: hot and spicy bacon, um, cinnamon and sugar. Yeah, I 212 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I recommend it. There's definitely like shrimp prawn. 213 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, I love a shrimpy chip. Oh gosh. 214 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: I highly recommend going to look up all their past 215 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: flavors because you will be shocked. Yeah. Oh, and apparently 216 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: I found this article on the week uh that that 217 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: claims that putting your Pringles in the fridge is heck 218 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: and delicious. Huh. I don't know. I couldn't help you. Good. 219 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I haven't tried it. I'm I'm just reporting. Well, what 220 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: about the nutrition. Well, there there chips, yep, they're they're 221 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: deep fried. I mean you know there there there are 222 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: some that they're they're sold that are that are lighter 223 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: and ah in salt and stuff. There's some that are 224 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: lighter in uh oil related calories. But um, but you 225 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: know it's it's a readier read your product labels. Uh. 226 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: We believe in you, absolutely we do. Uh. We do 227 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: have some numbers for you. Pringles are sold in over 228 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: one forty countries, and according to chrish Hood of Kellogg Europe, 229 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: two thirds of Pringles sales occur outside of the United States. Today. Yeah, 230 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: three million cans a day are made across Europe alone. Yeah, 231 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: and they make a lot of money like that. Some 232 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: of the figures I saw, and we're going to go 233 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: over some of them in the history. Yeah, I found 234 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: hard to believe, but that's what I guess. That's Yeah, 235 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: like Pringle, I think I think they're I think they 236 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: are just a bigger deal outside of the United States 237 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: than they are here now. Um so I want a 238 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: report in from outside the US, like, let us know 239 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: what your emotion about pringles is, because I don't know, Like, 240 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: to me, like it's a sort of it's like slightly 241 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: old fashioned. Yeah, like like it's it's sort of a 242 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: nostalgic thing like from my childhood, but not like the 243 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: first thing that I think of when I think of, like, 244 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: oh man, I want a delicious snap chip. Right, Yeah, 245 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: I feel like pringles are a very specific and rare 246 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: occurring mood in my case. Yeah, it's sort of kitchy. 247 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: It's got this kitch factor, yes, for sure. For sure. 248 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Um and and yeah, there have been over a hundred 249 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: flavors one place, I said, over a hundred and forty possible. Yeah, 250 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: I just highly recommend looking that up. I really do 251 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: and the history. My goodness, the history. Oh it's so 252 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: cool and we're going to get into it as soon 253 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: as we get back from a quick break. For a 254 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsored you. So. 255 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: Pringles were invented in nine as an answer for Procter 256 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: and Gambles call for the perfect potato chip. So, after 257 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: years of customer complaints about broken chips stale chips, the 258 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: company turned to Frederick Bauer, a PhD in organic chemistry 259 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: and a one time aviation physiologist in the Navy. Um 260 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: I know, and Vic Mills, the inventor of the disposable diaper, 261 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: in asking for their help. Um So, what they need 262 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: to solve was the problem of breakage of the delicate 263 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: chips and the staleness. Um yeah, because once chips are 264 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: exposed to air, they can go stale pretty quickly. So 265 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: these two combined water, sugar, oil, salt, and dehydrated potatoes, 266 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: and they use something like a cookie cutter to make 267 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: uniform shapes and weights, um, the hyperbolic paraboloid shape. And 268 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: they believed that if these chips were stacked, it would 269 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: decrease the risk of breakage. Problem. Though, problem problem the 270 00:18:52,960 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: chips tasted terribly so close. So Procter and Gamble shelf 271 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the project until the minute sixties. UM and they were like, yeah, no, 272 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: let's revisit this, and the recipe was revamped mix of potatoes, rice, wheat, 273 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: and corn. The same cookie cutter process was used for 274 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: uniformity and it was a success. But what about the 275 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: staleness issue? In nineteen six, Bauer came up with a 276 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: new design for Procter and Gamble to stack pringles more 277 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: uniformly and with less breakage in a vacuum sealed tennis 278 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: can tennis can. Yeah, yeah, to stave off staleness. The 279 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: now iconic pringles can are pringles tube can. Yeah, it's 280 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, sure both either both. Top of the line 281 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: technology was used to ensure the chips would fit in 282 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: the aluminum coated aerodynamic can. I saw something about like 283 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: the supercomputers they were using to do this, like went 284 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: all out, um And Barer was so proud of his 285 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: work on this design that when he died in two 286 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, his ashes were buried in a Pringle scan. 287 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: At first his kids thought he was joking about this, 288 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: but then joke kept coming up, and according to the 289 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: oldest son, they stopped at a pharmacy on the way 290 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: to the burial, and after a brief argument between his siblings, 291 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: they settled on the original flavor can for their fathers. 292 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: They're debating what Mary him in original Yeah yeah, um, 293 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: while the can is it's well loved now I would 294 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: say it's like you said, it's got kind of a 295 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: kitch factor. Uh not everyone took to it when it 296 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: first appeared on the shelves in the sixties. According to 297 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: the founder of supermarket guru dot com, Phil Limpert, people 298 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: resented it. You gave up the fun of eating potato chips, 299 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: looking for the big ones, the small ones, the one 300 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: shaped like Elvis I found hilarious. People are so funny, 301 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: But it is true. There is something kind of fun 302 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: about like I found the perfect huge torrito chip unbroken. 303 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: You feel like you've uncovered something real special. You do, Yeah, 304 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: you do. Bauer also came up with something he called 305 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: cold Snap, by the way, which was a freeze dried 306 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: ice cream product that you would just add milk to you. However, 307 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: the Pringles can was a much bigger success. Pringles was 308 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: a much success overall, and this is even though cold 309 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: Snap had a future CEO of Microsoft on its board. Um. Yeah, 310 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: and the can went on to inspire many more innovations 311 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: and packaging. There was a really cool timeline of like, 312 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: after Pringles tried this wacky experiment, how many other new 313 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: designs of snack products in particular kind of followed after that? Yeah? Um, 314 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: but this did take years of innovating. And after that, 315 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: Pringles hit the shelves in Evansville, Indiana in allegedly the 316 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: company called them Pringles Newfangled Potato chips. Love it, I know, 317 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: that's perfect. And the mascot Julius Pringle was there from 318 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: the beginning. He has excused me, he has changed throughout 319 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: the years, but he's been there generally since the beginning. Um. 320 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: By the nineteen seventies, Pringles were mostly available throughout the 321 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: United States, but the flavor was still kind of lacking. 322 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: The taste wasn't yeah quite there. It took customers until 323 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: about the nineteen eighties until they warmed up to Pringles. 324 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: Was it the commercial with the shirtless Brad Pitt in 325 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: the eighties that did it? Do not remember this commercial? 326 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: Oh you should watch it. It's quite epic. The fever, 327 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: the fever for the flavor Pringles ad campaign that it 328 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: was part of the vamping of the mascot, one of 329 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: many that would occur mysteries history, But Pringles were there 330 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: to stay. Now where does the name come from? No 331 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: one seems to know, h yeah, but legends abound. One 332 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: prominent one is that the company wanted the name to 333 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: begin with a P for potato chip, and they started 334 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: flipping through the address book or the phone book or 335 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: something until they found an address for Pringle Drive, and 336 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: they liked the ring of it, and so they went 337 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: with Pringles. Another story goes that the name comes from 338 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: New York inventor Mark Pringle, who in seven patented a 339 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: device that helped standardize the slicing and processing of potatoes. 340 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: He hoped it would allow for a quote food product 341 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: in wafer form of such uniformity in size, weight and 342 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: shape that can be economically packaged in a very compact 343 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: manner so as to exclude any appreciable quantity of air, 344 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: which does sound very much like what Pringles was going for. 345 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Procter and Gamble even referenced his work in 346 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: a patent of their own in nine nine huh. Another wow. 347 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: Sci fi author and combat engineer during the Korean War, 348 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: gene Wolf innovated quote a means of frying malded potato 349 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: shingles before they dropped onto a conveyor belt for Procter 350 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: and Gamble that is still used to make pringles to 351 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: this day. Uh and he's like huge in the sci 352 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: fi world. I personally didn't recognize his stuff, but like 353 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: he's a big deal. So yeah, yeah, I'm I'm not. 354 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not ringing a bell off the top 355 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: of my head. But um, but I believe you. Wow, 356 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: thank you, and you can believe the many other articles 357 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: that referenced it. According to Wolf, a German inventor actually 358 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: came up with this whole idea and Wolf developed it. 359 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a funny quote because he's like, well, 360 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even it. It was this German guy I 361 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: don't remember the name of, but I developed it. Cool 362 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: huh m hm um and uh yeah. Perhaps strangely enough, 363 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: pringles were not the only pressed potato based chips on 364 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: the market when they came out. General Mills actually beat 365 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: them by a year, premiering their Chippos New Fashioned Potato 366 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: Chips in that's a solid name, all right. Chippos oh 367 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: Man new fashioned potato chip. Yeah, these were. Um. These 368 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: were pressed into like a like a waffle fry kind 369 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: of design, like a fine waffle design. And um they 370 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: did not benefit from the tube. They were sold in 371 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: sleeves and side boxes. I'm not sure how long the 372 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: product lasted on the market. Ah, but now we arrive 373 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: at the infamous Crisp versus chip debate. Yes, and here 374 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: enters the Potato Chip Institute. This is a manufacturers organization 375 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: or association UM, which has since become the Snack Food Association. 376 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: And they filed suit against Procter and Gamble. They were 377 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: like only potato, not enough potato to call it yourself 378 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: a potato chip. Um. They went after chippos too, poor chippos, 379 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: I know for poor chippoos. Uh. In After complaints from 380 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: potato chip manufacturers, the f d A concluded that pringles 381 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: could not officially be called quote potato chips because they 382 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: are made of dehydrated potatoes as opposed to thin slices 383 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: of fried potatoes not enough potato. The FDA did give 384 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: them a little bit of wiggle room as long as 385 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: the company used a type like a font type that 386 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: was no less than half that of the largest type 387 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: on the label. They could call them quote potato chips 388 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: made from dry to potatoes. But the company was like, no, 389 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: we did. We're gonna call them Chris. We're gonna stick 390 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: for the Chris. This is not even I I totally 391 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: forgot about the whole chips versus crisp linguistic thing. Yeah. Yeah, 392 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: because this comes back later on because, like I said 393 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: near the top, crisps is the term for what we 394 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: call potato chips here in the US and other places. 395 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: So at anyway, UM, General Mills did try pressed chips 396 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: again with the brand Mrs Bumbies Potato Chips in the 397 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: nineties seventies. UM this one was a hyperbolic paraboloid UM. 398 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: It was sold in this ring shaped container. It looks 399 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: sort of like a sort of like when you when 400 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: you get those like frozen shrimp cocktails at the supermarket. 401 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: It sort of looks like that container. It's seems like 402 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: a ring. It was a ring of ring of chips. 403 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: UM Planters also came out with a with a wavy 404 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: version of of a saddle shaped chip in a tube 405 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: sometime during that decade, I think either the seventies or 406 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: the eighties. I couldn't track down a whole lot of 407 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: information about it. Huh okay, Yeah. The patent for Pringles 408 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: was filed in nineteen seventy six and it listed Alexander 409 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: Ulipa as the inventor. He gets a lot of credit 410 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: for improving the taste and essentially, I guess making them 411 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: more edible. Potentially that's why they took off in the eighties. 412 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't shirtless, Brad Pitt, I don't know. Um 413 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: it read the patent read quote a potato chip product 414 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: and process wherein a dough is prepared from dehydrated cooked 415 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: potatoes and water and subsequently fried. Beginning the company expanded 416 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: into international markets and also the flavors they offered. Oh 417 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: they expanded so much in that Yeah. Yeah, things like 418 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: prawn and blueberry. By the end of the Pringles was 419 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: Procter and Gamble's biggest brand. According to some sources, Pringles 420 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: was earning an annual one billion dollars for Procter and 421 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: Gamble by this time. Like I was trying to break 422 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: that number down. I was like, are they saying the 423 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: snack market? Like did did Pringles just up there snack revenue? Like? 424 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Or is this all pringles money all singles money, that's wild. 425 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: This is also this decade is when the slogan once 426 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: you pop, you just can't stop entered our pop culture lexicon. 427 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: And apparently the nineties TV show alec Ally McBeal uh 428 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: in it Ali got in a fight in a grocery 429 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: store over Pringles. I never I never really watched the show. 430 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I didn't either, But I still know about 431 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: the dance baby. I don't know about the pringles though. 432 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: We'll have to. We'll have to try to find the 433 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: clip on on on YouTube or something. Um uh. In 434 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: two thousand four, UM Pringles and several brands teamed up 435 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: to produce UM this product called Pringles Prints, and these 436 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: were these Pringles that had printed on them UM like 437 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: co branded UM sponsored messages or like trivia questions UM. 438 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: They they paired up with The Incredibles, Daytona five hundred, Trivial, 439 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: Pursuit Junior, and Guinness World Records to produce these UM 440 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: through the mediation of this company called Shaky Egg Communications, 441 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: and their website talks about this and it is some 442 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: of the most amazing marketing language I've ever read in 443 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: my entire existence. I would like to quote it for 444 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: you briefly. Okay, So it says um Chips now media 445 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: vehicle with a Pringles Prince program, the brand was able 446 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: to deliver more than just simple unpack exposure to their partners, 447 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: and Stafford exploited this fact on behalf of Pringles. The 448 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: Potato Chip became a media vehicle which can deliver hundreds 449 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: of millions of impressions in a promotion. A media vehicle 450 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: that is impressive, astounding. I just both love and hate 451 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: equally deeply everything about that. I'm like, wow, I feel 452 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: like that's something that I could have very easily set 453 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: in a meeting at some point in my life. Media vehicle. 454 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: Wasn't you who wrote that admitted come clean? Oh alas alack, 455 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: it was not. I can't believe. Okay, this is like 456 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: I know I talked about I still know what you 457 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: did last summer, and it's really weird, but I think 458 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: about it quite often. And yeah, there's a scene where 459 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: Jennifer Love Hewitt is singing karaoke and the karaoke machine. 460 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: She's singing, I will survive and then I'm going to 461 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: kill you. But if you open your media vehicle ship 462 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: and you get this murderous message. Why didn't they make 463 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: a movie about that? That would have been a real 464 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: media vehicle. I'm trying to think, Yeah, yeah, like we're 465 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: we're really going to have to set a horror movie 466 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: like in two thousand four specifically, and and like go 467 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: back and and have this be a plot point. Oh, 468 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: I would love that so much. I love movies like 469 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: I just watched You've Got Mail recently. I love movies 470 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: that have like only one time they could have existed, 471 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: and just the one, just that one, and if you 472 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: weren't around during that time, like the jokes are going 473 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: over your head, confounding. Yeah, but it's it's not making 474 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: any sense to you. I do love that type of movie. 475 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 1: So okay, alright, cool, we'll we'll start working on it. 476 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: Um heck um also okay, so um. As we've talked 477 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: about in previous snack episodes, there's like a lot of 478 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: research into making snack foods cravable. Um. You can see 479 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: the Cheetos episode for like a lot more on that, 480 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: but basically, manufacturers are looking to to build a snack 481 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: that's like interesting enough to crave that you want more 482 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: of it, but not so interesting that your brain gets 483 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: tired and wants you to stop eating it. So you're 484 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: you're looking for like a good burst of quick fading flavor, 485 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: a satisfying crunch, and a quick melt after chewing that 486 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: makes you feel like you haven't eaten that much. You 487 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: should definitely eat more. Um. It sounds like a dating 488 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: prof gonna be interesting, but not not too interesting. Don't 489 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: be intimidating. Oh my goodness, UM, all right about that 490 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: crunch though. Um. In two thousand five, a couple of 491 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: psychology researchers by the names of Charles Spence and Massimiliano 492 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: Zampini published this paper called the Role of Auditory cues 493 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: and Modulating the Perceived Crispness and Staleness of Potato Chips. 494 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: All right. They published this in the Journal of Sensory Studies. 495 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: And in the study, they sat study participants in front 496 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 1: of microphones with parringles to eat and headphones to wear. 497 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: And then as they fed the sound of the of 498 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: the crunching of the participants eating these chips. As they 499 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: fed that sound from the mic through a computer back 500 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: into the participants headphones, they mucked around with it a 501 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: little bit. So they found that when the sounds were 502 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: modified so that the high frequency parts were amped up 503 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: um or when the sounds in general were just louder. 504 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: The participants rated the the flavor of the chips being 505 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: crisper and fresher. Wow, wild, so cool. Our brains are mush. 506 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: I love it. We can't trust anything that we sense. 507 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: A good crunch is very important. It is apparently it 508 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: is um They won. They won the two thou eight 509 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: Ignoble Prize and nutrition for that work. By the way, 510 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Oh but we must return because the crisp 511 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: versus chip debate rag Yes, the British Court of Appeal 512 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: decided in two thousand nine that pringles qualified as potato crisp, 513 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: which put them in the same category as potato chips 514 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: and subject them to the same taxes. Procter and Gamble 515 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: try to argue about the level of quote potato nous 516 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: in their product, but a judge on the case secreted 517 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: it there was quote more than enough potato content for 518 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: it to be a reasonable view that it is made 519 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: from potato. This was not good news for Procter and Gamble. 520 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: Um the ruling met they owed one and sixty million 521 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: dollars in back taxes and an annual thirty one million 522 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: dollars in the following years. Yes, it is true. Pringles 523 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: was trying to evade taxes by arguing that their chips 524 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: are not all that potato e. In the UK, potato 525 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: chips are categorized as a luxury food and our taxed 526 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: as such, but snacks are categorized as a necessity and 527 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: thus are not taxed. So this is why Pringles was 528 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: like no, no, no no, or just a snack. In the 529 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: UK was like, nah, you're a potato chip, it's right, 530 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: or crisp, there is a chip see um in Procter 531 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: and Gamble sold Pringles to Diamond Foods, but the deal 532 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: ultimately fell through, so Kellogg's purchase Pringles from PNG. Oh yeah, okay, 533 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: technological marvels continue in Pringles debuted a video gaming headset 534 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: device that fed people chips, and it is called the 535 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: hunger Hammer hunger Hammer, the hunger Hammer, hunger Hammer. Let 536 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: me describe it for you. I know, please do, because 537 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: I haven't looked it up and I'm depending on you 538 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: for for an explanation. I'm ready. Okay. Imagine you're you're 539 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: sitting in your your deep in your game and you 540 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: just don't have time to pose it or look away. 541 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: You've got a huge headset, one of those big ones 542 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 1: that cover your ears and showing all the sound. You've 543 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: got the mouthpiece so you can talk to people. And 544 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: then on the side you have a sleek three D 545 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 1: printer printed holder for a mini tube of pringles, which 546 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: you set the tube of pringles in, and a little 547 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: robot arm lifts the pringle and breathe it to your mouth. Wow, 548 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: the futures, now, the futures now. Ah, the hunger Hammer, 549 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: the hunger Hammer. I you know you can't. You can't. 550 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: You've got you've got two joysticks for a reason. You 551 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: can't take one hand away to put a hand into 552 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: the pringle skin. What if you get your hand stuck? 553 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: Oh my heck, dangers abound. You use the game and 554 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: no one wants that. The thing is though, I think 555 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: I've told this story on here before. I had that 556 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: cabbage patch doll the Eight Things, and I recall it 557 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: because it would like eat your hair. Yeah, I just 558 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: worried that the robot are I don't know, malfunctions. I'm 559 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: a little concerned. But I did really appreciate learning more 560 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: about the hunger him. Yeah, Oh my goodness. Oh please 561 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: send video yes wow, um or just yeah, just tell 562 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 1: us about your experience either way, either way. Um uh 563 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: well everything else seems seems boring after that. But Pringles 564 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: wavy debut, It's wavy chips, Springles waves in it. Yeah. 565 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: Before that, back in the UK Recycling Association named the 566 00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: Pringles can one of the two worst recycling nightmares in 567 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: existence due to all of those different materials that it uses. UM. 568 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: In response, as of September, Kellogg's started releasing versions of 569 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: a nine percent paper can with a with a plastic 570 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: interior instead of foil lids made of recyclable plastic or paper. 571 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: Uh we have We have yet to see how they 572 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: how they test out? Yes, yes we shall, we shall um. Earlier, 573 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: Pringles teamed up with Rick and Morty to run a 574 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,959 Speaker 1: commercial during the Super Bowl. UM. It focuses on their 575 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: campaign encouraging consumers to stack multiple flavors of Pringles to 576 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: create their own unique Pringles flavor experience. Yeah, yeah, it's 577 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: Scott about that whole thing. Yeah yeah, it's a whole 578 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: It's a whole marketing campaign for sure. Um. The the 579 00:40:54,600 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: video is real cute. I I I laughed, I laughed, Yeah, 580 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean and it definitely Rick is like, oh, we're 581 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: trapped in a Pringle's commercial. I'm like, oh, this is 582 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: very Rick and Morty. Yeah. I wonder how many products 583 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like a lot of the most recent 584 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: specific branded products we've talked about do have sort of 585 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: a an aspect of children playing with them, Like if 586 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: you think of Pringles, you could make the duck clips 587 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: and then what were those called bugles? Put them on 588 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: your fingers ten you were a witch? Like was that 589 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: accidental or was somebody thinking of this? Yeah? I do 590 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: wonder well well, uh and yeah, the the the logo, 591 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: the the mr P face updated at the beginning of yep. Yeah, 592 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: um and and I went just on a very brief 593 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: google um during a few parts or your parts, Annie, 594 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: to find some of these magical other flavors of Pringles. M. 595 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: Can we can we close out with a list? Yes, 596 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: let's do. Okay? Um, and this is by far not 597 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 1: not all of them that are out there. Uh, this 598 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: is only what like twenty okay, cheeseburger, pecan pie, pumpkin pie, spice, 599 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: white chocolate, peppermint, hot and spicy, Wanton Las Vegas, spare ribs, 600 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: smoked salami, Billy cheese steak, of course, paprika and ketchup. 601 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why I said, of course about paprika. 602 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's what catchup shirt. Catch up 603 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: isn't of course. Um, this one I think is probably 604 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: a poor translation um, or at least an interesting translation 605 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: Old American circus Funky mustard. Wow, I want to know 606 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: everything about that, yep, Um Mozzar realistics and Marinera bacon, 607 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: Caesar salad, Los Angeles street barbecue, chicken, um mayo, potato, lemon, sesame, 608 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 1: curry ste and soft shell crab shell crab. I've got 609 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: to know more about the Las Vegas fare ribs. I 610 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: something about that not processing in my brain. I think, 611 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: I think the idea. I think it's meaning to evoke, 612 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: like like the buffets of Las Vegas. Sure, but when 613 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: I think of the buffets in Las Vegas, maybe I'm 614 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: coming from the name of the experience. It's not the ribs. 615 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: The vambs are not come to mind. Yeah, I don't. 616 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: I've never been fascinating fascinating. Well, this has been a 617 00:43:53,480 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 1: real roller coaster fun one in fact. Yeah, yes, um, 618 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: we we do have we do have some listener mail 619 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: for you. We do, but first we have one more 620 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: cup break for word from our sponsor, every fact. Thank 621 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and we're back with listen. Crunch. 622 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: I was doing a pop. Oh it's a crunch ampop 623 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,439 Speaker 1: based on the hand gesture. I wasn't I wasn't sure. 624 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah I was. It could have been either or it 625 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: could have been either or Honestly, I was still during 626 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: the commercial break, I was still distracted from the images 627 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: of tubes Lord worshipping Pringles tubes. Oh yeah, yeah, I was. 628 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: I was sharing some of these anyway. I we just 629 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: Annie has more questions about the Las Vegas fare ribs. 630 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: I have many questions now I have many many men questions, 631 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: no answers, but that sounds about right. Alicia wrote, I 632 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: was listening to the corn Bread episode the other day 633 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: and heard y'all discussing how you want to look into 634 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: doing an episode on the industrialization of corn, and boy, 635 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: do I have some research material for you. In my 636 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: research into food culture, I came across the show The 637 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 1: Chef's Table. One of the chefs discussed was Dan Barber, 638 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: who is a farmed table pioneer that did a lot 639 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: of work with the Cornell Cooperative Program. He wrote a 640 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: book called The Third Plate. In this book, he divides 641 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: his discussion on food into different sections. The introduction at 642 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: the section entitled Soil discusses a little bit of the 643 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: history of the industrialization of corn and how it led 644 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: to the dust bowl. I never really thought about the 645 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: connection there, but industrialisized corn production alters soil composition by 646 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: taking much of the nutrients out while also having a 647 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: shallow root system that makes it pretty easy for the 648 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: wind in the plans to blow around all the used 649 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: up soil. How cool and tragic? Wow? Oh no, I 650 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: didn't even know about that connection when I suggested that 651 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: it would be a terrifying episode. That's yeah, there's a 652 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: lot of things with corn we're going to have to grapple. 653 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: Who yeah, yeah, I mean I agree. Cool and very 654 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: very tragic. Alright, alright, reading reading homework though, that's that's great. 655 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Sam wrote, I'm catching up on 656 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: the backlog of pods. I didn't listen to in December 657 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: because I went on staycation, and today I listened to 658 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: the olive episode. When you read the listener male, my 659 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: ears pricked at Hannah's mention of a lemon bush that 660 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: grew enormous fruit. I immediately recognized that she was talking 661 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: about a Ponderosa lemon um. They included the botanical name. 662 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to read it. My grandmother 663 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: had one. She grew in a huge pot so she 664 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: could move it into the greenhouse in winter. Ponder Rosa's 665 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: are cross of pamelo and citron and no actual lemon 666 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: jeans in them, and we'll grow into an actual tree. 667 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 1: Though they are slow growing, the fruits are truly ponderous, 668 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,439 Speaker 1: measuring six to eight inches in diameter and weighing two 669 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: to four pounds each. They have a thick citron like rind, 670 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: and the fruit is both seedy and juicy. The juice 671 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: could be readily subbed for true lemon juice without any 672 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: change in taste. Four pounds, four pounds ponder rosa. I 673 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: love this. We've got another entry in the Mysterious lemon Yes, 674 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: the prodigious lemons citrus. This could be a mystery novel series. 675 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 1: It really could it, absolutely, I you know, the more 676 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: we learn about it, the more I'm convinced that, yes, 677 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: there needs to be a series of novels about this. Well, 678 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: get on it. Listeners, and thanks too much for both 679 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: of these listeners for writing. If you would like to 680 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: write to us, you can our emails hello at savor 681 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: pod dot com. We're also on social media. 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